| ework | hello room | 00:35 |
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| ework | has anyone had any success getting ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 working on a Keil Versatile Express development board? | 00:36 |
| GrueMaster | What processor does that use? | 00:36 |
| ework | I think the problem I'm having is the kernel has an incompatible config | 00:36 |
| ework | A9x4 | 00:36 |
| GrueMaster | ? | 00:37 |
| ework | 4 core A9 | 00:37 |
| GrueMaster | oh. | 00:37 |
| mattman | ework: i have been able to boot a kernel on that system | 00:37 |
| ework | I have been able to boot generic debian lenny using debootstrap and the stock kernel from ARM (kernel-2.6.33-arm1) | 00:37 |
| mattman | ework: do you want me to send you the .config i've been using? | 00:38 |
| ework | when booting a rootfs built using rootstock it just hangs after a number of errors about plymouth | 00:40 |
| ework | but its still detecting my usb keyboard being plugged in and unplugged | 00:40 |
| ework | I had to add support for DEVTMPFS in my kernel to get past some of the initial errors | 00:40 |
| ework | mattman, what kernel were you using? was is something derived from the ubuntu kernel? | 00:40 |
| mattman | ework: 2.6.35-rc5. | 00:41 |
| ework | mattman, that would be really great | 00:41 |
| ework | thats a maverik kernel correct? | 00:42 |
| mattman | ework: just a sec working on getting it into pastebin | 00:42 |
| ework | mattman, where is the best place to get the patched ubuntu kernel source so that I can apply this patch against | 00:43 |
| ework | mattman, did you just do a standard "make uImage" after patching it? | 00:43 |
| mattman | ework: i haven't patched the kernel. i'm pretty sure this is just a snapshot of the arm-next kernel tree. | 00:44 |
| ework | mattman, whats the best way to cross compile the kernel. Sorry I'm just getting started with this stuff. I've built the kernel a number of times using the standard ubuntu way to a .deb file, but not cross-compiled a kernel from a ubuntu source package. | 00:46 |
| mattman | ework: can you see the arm-next kernel at http://git.linaro.org/gitweb? | 00:47 |
| ework | mattman, I also have no problem compiling a kernel from vanilla source, which is how I get the 2.6.33-arm1 kernel I have now | 00:47 |
| ework | ok I think I can figure it out from that git source | 00:47 |
| ework | mattman, did you make this config yourself or is it based on some source | 00:47 |
| mattman | ework: ok let me pastebin a link to the .config I'm using | 00:48 |
| ework | mattman, sorry for all the questions I'll slow down | 00:48 |
| mattman | ework: yes | 00:48 |
| mattman | ework: here's the .config i'm using: http://pastebin.com/D8fUQ1bK | 00:50 |
| mattman | ework: i created this by using an older .config and just manually enabling the same devices. | 00:51 |
| ework | mattman, so you were able to boot some form of ubuntu on the versatile express correct? | 00:52 |
| ework | using this kernel and rootstock? | 00:52 |
| mattman | ework: yes right now I booted a minimal rootfs then apt-get the rest. | 00:53 |
| ework | mattman, sounds good that was my plan as well | 00:53 |
| mattman | let me send you a link to some wiki instructions i put togther. | 00:53 |
| mattman | ework: https://wiki.linaro.org/Boards/Vexpress - actually after looking at the instructions again, they are good for when you already have built images. i need to spend more time explaining how i built the images | 00:57 |
| ework | mattman, thank you for all the help you have no idea how much time I've spent spinning my wheels trying to debug why it doesn't boot | 00:57 |
| ework | mattman, I can add some information tho this wiki as I go through the process if that helps | 00:58 |
| ework | looks like I just need a launch pad account which is not a problem | 00:59 |
| mattman | ework: good to know. i wondered if the instructions were visible. | 00:59 |
| ework | mattman, btw one other boot option is usb which is what I've been using without problems | 01:00 |
| mattman | ework: that's good to know also. i would like to add any information you'd like to share to the document. | 01:00 |
| ework | mattman, I should be able to add information myself if I have a launchpad.net account? | 01:01 |
| mattman | ework: true | 01:01 |
| mattman | ework: that's even a better ides ;-) | 01:01 |
| ework | mattman, oh you have usb hard drive already at the bottom | 01:02 |
| ework | mattman, this looks similar to whats on the quickstart card. I think you might even want a separate page for building the kernel and rootfs | 01:03 |
| mattman | ework: right, seems obvious now that i look at it again. | 01:04 |
| ework | mattman, well its kind of obvious now but it took me a while to understand it to the level documented there | 01:05 |
| ework | mattman, I didn't even know you could boot the kernel off SD or CF I was always updating the flash each time | 01:09 |
| mattman | ework: that's pretty nice if you have an SD card reader on your laptop. | 01:09 |
| ework | yah I have the board next to my laptop and can just unplug it and take the card out and put it into a MicroSD to SD adapter | 01:10 |
| ework | copy it over and reboot and it updates the flash | 01:10 |
| mattman | ework: just one more item that might help. i don't remember exactly where my minimal rootfs came from, but i think http://releases.linaro.org/platform/linaro-m/headless/alpha-3/linaro-m-headless-tar-20100803-0.tar.gz may work. | 01:11 |
| ework | mattman, this wiki page is very useful but I agree it needs to complimented with instructions for building rootfs and kernel | 01:12 |
| ework | mattman, the minimal rootfs is pretty easy to get using rootstock | 01:12 |
| mattman | ework: thanks for the feedback on the wiki page. | 01:14 |
| ework | mattman, maybe it had some incompatibilities which is why I ran into problems | 01:14 |
| NCommander | ericm|ubuntu: ping? | 01:38 |
| dyfet | this is a lovely day | 06:20 |
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| lag | Morning ogra | 07:53 |
| dyfet | i am not sure he is up yet | 07:58 |
| lag | lazy blighter | 08:00 |
| lag | dyfet: David, maybe you could help? | 08:01 |
| dyfet | maybe | 08:01 |
| lag | I am trying to run update-initramfs from a chroot | 08:01 |
| dyfet | hmm... | 08:01 |
| lag | What do I need to make it work? | 08:01 |
| dyfet | well, for other odd things in chroot, I would suggest bind mounting /dev, /proc, and /sys. but I am not sure if that is helpful for this. | 08:02 |
| lag | How do I know of they are bind mounted or not/ | 08:03 |
| lag | ? | 08:03 |
| dyfet | well, from outside the chroot, you can do "mount" to see what is mounted | 08:04 |
| cooloney | lag: are you reviewing the L24.9 kernel release from TI? | 08:04 |
| lag | cooloney: I'm happy to | 08:04 |
| lag | cooloney: But I haven't had an email | 08:05 |
| lag | dyfet: I'm not sure this will help me | 08:06 |
| lag | cooloney: How do you test your bespoke kernels with the daily build? | 08:06 |
| dyfet | I have used that for things like grub from chroot, but I am not sure if it is helpful for running update-initramfs from chroot either... | 08:06 |
| lag | dyfet: I think I just need to know how to run it | 08:07 |
| lag | Where does it get it's modules from? | 08:07 |
| cooloney | lag: oh, i assume ndec told you the git tree for that L24.9 kernel in irc | 08:07 |
| cooloney | lag: hmmm, what's bespoke kernel? | 08:07 |
| lag | cooloney: bespoke == your own | 08:07 |
| lag | cooloney: Not yet | 08:08 |
| cooloney | lag: now, i just build kernel and flash it into my SD card with a maverick rootfs built from rootstock | 08:08 |
| cooloney | lag: how about you? | 08:08 |
| lag | cooloney: I don't | 08:08 |
| lag | cooloney: I'm trying to, but it means I have to re-create the initramfs from within the chroot | 08:09 |
| lag | cooloney: This, I am having difficulty with | 08:09 |
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| hrw | morning | 08:10 |
| cooloney | lag: yeah, i also installed a daily image on another SD card. | 08:10 |
| cooloney | lag: so if I wanna test it, i can use that SD card. | 08:10 |
| dyfet | cooloney: I do much the same... | 08:10 |
| lag | But I'd like to test them in unison | 08:10 |
| lag | New kernel w daily build rootfs | 08:11 |
| lag | cooloney: It's not a problem for you, as the daily build boots | 08:12 |
| lag | But it doesn't on XM | 08:12 |
| cooloney | lag: oh, too bad, XM looks scary to me | 08:12 |
| lag | I need to re-create the uImage and uInitrd from the get-go | 08:12 |
| lag | cooloney: Not scary, just a pain | 08:12 |
| cooloney | lag: how about just boot uImage, use 'noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p2' in kernel cmdline to skip uInitrd | 08:14 |
| cooloney | i mean for testing kernel booting and some bugs which can be found in console. | 08:14 |
| lag | cooloney: No - some of the issues are; boots fine with rootstock, doesn't boot with daily build | 08:15 |
| cooloney | lag: oh yeah, i c | 08:15 |
| lag | cooloney: Some issues only surface when using the daily build | 08:15 |
| lag | cooloney: I need to create a uInitrd for my 'bespoke' kernel | 08:16 |
| dyfet | I think I will try getting some sleep | 08:16 |
| lag | dyfet: :) | 08:16 |
| lag | dyfet: Night David | 08:16 |
| cooloney | dyfet: good night, have a nice dream | 08:16 |
| cooloney | don't dream of XM | 08:16 |
| lag | cooloney: The term you're looking for is "sweet dreams" | 08:17 |
| lag | Okay I'll have to wait for ogra or rsalveti, as they seem to know a little about initramfs' | 08:17 |
| cooloney | lag: yeah, actually the uInitrd i am using still comes from rsalveti | 08:18 |
| cooloney | lag: i just updated a bug tracker you pointed me a patch yesterday | 08:18 |
| lag | cooloney: I can't take credit for that, you have to thank rcn-ee | 08:19 |
| lag | cooloney: I saw your ACK on linux-omap | 08:19 |
| cooloney | lag: yeah, rcn-ee is robert? | 08:19 |
| cooloney | rcn-ee: thanks a lot | 08:19 |
| cooloney | lag: yeah, just tested on my board | 08:20 |
| lag | cooloney: Yes, that's Robert | 08:20 |
| cooloney | i think the patch author stanley.miao might be in China who works for windriver | 08:20 |
| lag | stanley.miao@windriver.com | 08:21 |
| lag | I'd say you're right :) | 08:21 |
| cooloney | lag: i found there are hundreds patches from TI's L24.9 release | 08:24 |
| cooloney | lag: mission impossible for us to review all of them | 08:24 |
| lag | cooloney: With the last lot, did you go through them all individually? | 08:25 |
| cooloney | lag: no, just reviewed several | 08:26 |
| lag | cooloney: What about the 200+ ones you received? | 08:26 |
| cooloney | lag: i plan to add our ubuntu packaging stuff firstly | 08:26 |
| cooloney | lag: OMG, you don't know that? | 08:26 |
| lag | ? | 08:26 |
| cooloney | lag: i pushed them out and tim merged them as 903.7 release in ti-omap4 tree | 08:27 |
| cooloney | L24.9 is new release which is based on 2.6.35 | 08:27 |
| lag | Yes, but you must have reviewed them first | 08:27 |
| cooloney | lag: oh, i fixed lots of codings style issue | 08:28 |
| lag | Yes, but did you thumb through and review them all individually? | 08:28 |
| cooloney | reviewed most of them not all of them | 08:28 |
| lag | And how many hundred are there in this release? | 08:29 |
| cooloney | yeah, but just quick review. | 08:29 |
| lag | Do you have the link? | 08:29 |
| cooloney | i guess 900 or more | 08:29 |
| lag | JC | 08:29 |
| * lag falls on the floor! | 08:29 | |
| cooloney | and still increasing | 08:29 |
| cooloney | 1 sec, man | 08:29 |
| lag | Well you'll have fun this those | 08:29 |
| * lag leaves | 08:30 | |
| * cooloney grabs lag back, | 08:30 | |
| cooloney | http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-omap4.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/L24.9 | 08:30 |
| lag | Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 08:30 |
| cooloney | lag: come on. hehe, | 08:31 |
| * cooloney brb | 08:32 | |
| lag | How do you know there are 900? | 08:32 |
| lag | Are there stats? | 08:32 |
| cooloney | lag: i just wanna scare you | 08:33 |
| lag | nec: Good morning | 09:33 |
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| ogra | lag, whats your prob ? | 09:44 |
| lag | ogra: What's your problem? | 09:45 |
| lag | ogra: ;) | 09:45 |
| ogra | oh, dont get me started :) | 09:45 |
| ogra | i mean your initramfs issue | 09:45 |
| lag | ogra: I want to create an uInitrd that will work with the daily build | 09:45 |
| ogra | what did you do so far | 09:45 |
| lag | Create kernel.deb | 09:46 |
| lag | Create uImage | 09:46 |
| lag | Extract kernel.deb (before create uImage) | 09:46 |
| lag | ? | 09:46 |
| ogra | install qemu-arm-static | 09:46 |
| lag | Where? | 09:46 |
| ogra | (dont extract the deb | 09:46 |
| ogra | on a machine of your choice | 09:47 |
| ogra | one you can be root on | 09:47 |
| lag | I am in a chroot | 09:47 |
| ogra | ah, you are in a chroot already | 09:47 |
| ogra | k | 09:47 |
| lag | Yep | 09:47 |
| ogra | is proc mounted ? | 09:47 |
| lag | :) | 09:47 |
| ogra | update-initramfs needs it | 09:47 |
| lag | proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime) | 09:48 |
| ogra | so if you mounted proc and are in the chroot, just dpkg -i the .deb you have | 09:48 |
| ogra | that should run update-initramfs from the postinstall script | 09:48 |
| lag | I don't want to install it into the chroot | 09:48 |
| ogra | why ? | 09:49 |
| ogra | its just a chroot | 09:49 |
| lag | Because I am on the build server | 09:49 |
| lag | The build server has chroot to build in - I don't want to mess it up | 09:49 |
| ogra | well, you can uninstall it afterwards | 09:49 |
| ogra | k | 09:49 |
| lag | Can't I dpkg -i <somewhere else> | 09:50 |
| ogra | so: dpkg -x <path to deb> / | 09:50 |
| lag | Root? | 09:50 |
| ogra | then manually run update-initramfs | 09:50 |
| ogra | sure root | 09:50 |
| lag | dpkg -x <path to deb> . | 09:50 |
| lag | Which I already did | 09:50 |
| lag | <lag> Extract kernel.deb | 09:51 |
| ogra | after you are done remove /lib/modules/$kver and the files in /boot | 09:51 |
| ogra | well, . wont help | 09:51 |
| lag | update-initramfs is stupid | 09:51 |
| ogra | update-initramfs needs the files in the right places | 09:51 |
| lag | ---^ | 09:51 |
| lag | update-initramfs -b ./boot | 09:52 |
| lag | ? | 09:52 |
| ogra | its not designed for cross building, its awesome in doing for what it is designed | 09:52 |
| lag | Well it should be amended | 09:52 |
| ogra | -b will only set the output dir | 09:52 |
| * ogra would just install the deb and purge it afterwards | 09:53 | |
| lag | touch /boot/file | 09:53 |
| lag | /usr/bin/touch: cannot touch `/boot/file': Permission denied | 09:53 |
| ogra | arent you root ? | 09:53 |
| lag | Nope | 09:54 |
| ogra | you need to be | 09:54 |
| ogra | if you are really that scared to break the build chroot, i'd copy the deb to a local machine and just do it there | 09:54 |
| ogra | lol | 09:56 |
| * ogra has never seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelForIdiots before | 09:56 | |
| ogra | "The kernel team are geniuses with brains the size of planes ..." | 09:57 |
| ogra | HAHAHAHA | 09:57 |
| lag | I hope that's not a jaunt on my information procurement! | 09:58 |
| ogra | nah | 09:58 |
| lag | We all have to learn | 09:58 |
| hrw | omg... | 09:58 |
| ogra | i just ran across that page | 09:58 |
| ogra | the comment not related to anyone in this room | 09:59 |
| hrw | I prefer "make-kpkg kernel-image" in git linux tree instead | 09:59 |
| ogra | well, but thats not what a buildd does | 09:59 |
| hrw | buildd does "dpkg-buildpackage" | 09:59 |
| hrw | as it does with other pacakges | 09:59 |
| ogra | yeah | 09:59 |
| apw | ogra, keybuk is a wag sometimes | 10:00 |
| ogra | looking at that page though i wonder if its not also missing the disabling of the module version check | 10:00 |
| hrw | after reading that wiki page I think that I need KernelForHrwOrOthersWhichDoNotWantToFollowIdiotsVersion ;D | 10:00 |
| ogra | heh | 10:00 |
| apw | yeah the naming is somewhat unfortuanate :) | 10:01 |
| hrw | ubuntu kernel rules are nice but as long as you do not want to change something ;D | 10:01 |
| hrw | those abi, configs etc stuffs | 10:02 |
| hrw | for years with debian I just had to do "git pull;make-kpkg kernel_image" to get nice kernel for my machine | 10:02 |
| hrw | but this was out-of-debian kernel | 10:02 |
| lag | Morning ndec | 10:46 |
| ndec | lag: morning | 10:46 |
| lag | ndec: How are you today? | 10:46 |
| ndec | lag: fine. thx | 10:46 |
| lag | ndec: (I'm buttering you up for bad news) ;) | 10:46 |
| ndec | lag: that's what i thought ;-) | 10:47 |
| ndec | lag: and I think i know what you are going to say next... | 10:47 |
| lag | ndec: Have a stab at it ... | 10:47 |
| ndec | lag: kernel does not boot. | 10:48 |
| lag | Nope | 10:49 |
| lag | I haven't got that far | 10:49 |
| lag | Or rather, my checks haven't gone that far | 10:49 |
| lag | grep ERROR checkpatch.txt | wc -l | 10:49 |
| lag | 2820 | 10:49 |
| lag | 2820 errors in those patches | 10:49 |
| ndec | lag: yes, I am reading bryan email... | 10:49 |
| lag | Oh, he's sent it already | 10:50 |
| ndec | lag: i am trying to understand why we ended up with this... | 10:52 |
| lag | ndec: Have you 'brain grep'ed the checkpatch.txt yet | 10:53 |
| ndec | lag: how do you 'brain grep', is there a command for this, or perhaps a package ;-) | 10:54 |
| lag | Yes, many; emacs, vi, less, cat, kate, gedit, nano, pico ... | 10:54 |
| lag | ;) | 10:55 |
| ndec | lag: plain grep is quite nice too... | 10:57 |
| lag | Yep, well the command I posted above should help | 10:58 |
| lag | You still have to 'brain grep' the output | 10:58 |
| ndec | lag: i will look into this internally to see what can be done. I will follow up on bryan's email. | 11:01 |
| lag | ndec: No problem | 11:01 |
| ndec | lag: as of today, this kernel will not boot on your panda, only blaze. which h/w do you have? | 11:02 |
| lag | ndec: I'll be waiting to review when the errors (and warnings ;) ) have been corrected | 11:02 |
| ndec | lag: well, let's target 11.10, and not 10.10 then ;-) | 11:02 |
| lag | ndec: That troubles me a little - there are some patches in there which I need to close bugs (particularly ones from robclark and mythripk) | 11:03 |
| mythripk | lag: I guess the patch from me and rob should not cause any issues on panda and can be pulled | 11:06 |
| rsalveti | morning | 14:12 |
| dyfet | morning is for coffee | 14:13 |
| pcacjr | rsalveti: morning | 14:13 |
| pcacjr | dyfet: not at all | 14:14 |
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| rsalveti | lag: did you manage to install the deb package into your chroot and generate the new initrd.img? | 14:58 |
| rsalveti | I think you just need /dev and /proc mounted at your chroot | 14:58 |
| ogra | dev isnt needed | 14:59 |
| ogra | but you need proc | 14:59 |
| rsalveti | ogra: I think when installing the package, or generating the initrd.img someone tries to write to /dev/null or something like that | 15:05 |
| rsalveti | I had a problem with it in the past, so I generally mount it :-) | 15:06 |
| ogra | /dev/null should be available, debootstrap creates it | 15:06 |
| ogra | as well as console | 15:06 |
| jkridner1 | ds2, all: I can't get passed this error when I try to boot an initramfs (not compiled into the kernel): No filesystem could mount root, tried: ext3 ext2 ext4 squashfs vfat msdos | 15:13 |
| jkridner1 | before that, I get RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0 | 15:13 |
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| rsavoye | does the ARM have branch delay slots after loads and stores like other RISC architectures ? | 16:13 |
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| GrueMaster | ogra: Have you looked into why oem-config dies? I have been trying to figure out what is going on all day yesterday. What I am seeing is some of the log files in /var/log are corrupted, and mounting the pre-installed image now fails for me (worked on previous images). | 16:53 |
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| ogra_cmpc | GrueMaster, not beyond what i said already, while it tries to start it dies but you only get the tty back if you hit enter | 17:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | and the ubiquity logs only show that it found an already running X server | 17:06 |
| GrueMaster | I don't get oem-config at all, just an X background & mouse. | 17:06 |
| ogra_cmpc | right | 17:06 |
| ogra_cmpc | wait 5min and then hit enter | 17:06 |
| ogra_cmpc | oem-config drops you into a root shell if it cant run | 17:07 |
| ogra_cmpc | but apparently the console isnt shown unless you hit enter in X | 17:07 |
| GrueMaster | Ah. | 17:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | how did you shut down before you saw corrupted logfiles ? | 17:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | just pull the plug ? | 17:08 |
| GrueMaster | Switched to tty0 and did a <ctrl><alt><del>. | 17:09 |
| GrueMaster | That triggers reboot. | 17:09 |
| GrueMaster | More graceful. | 17:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | (the SD card speedup results in less sync calls to write data to disk, if you dont shut down properly it might not have synced the data in cache) | 17:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | hmm, a proper shutdown shouldnt result in a corrupted card | 17:10 |
| GrueMaster | It should have. It goes through the normal shutdown this way. | 17:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | yes | 17:10 |
| GrueMaster | Card doesn't appear corrupted. e2fsck reports no errors. | 17:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | weird | 17:10 |
| GrueMaster | But the logs are off. Mainly Xorg.0.log and a couple of others. | 17:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | then i dont get why you see corrupt logs nor why it doesnt mount | 17:11 |
| GrueMaster | I'm retrying to I don't have a copy atm. | 17:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | the vfat should never be automounted after first boto btw | 17:11 |
| GrueMaster | It may have been my desktop. I had to reboot this morning due to updates. | 17:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | *boot | 17:12 |
| GrueMaster | I know. It isn't. | 17:12 |
| ogra_cmpc | the rootfs should though | 17:12 |
| GrueMaster | That's what I was looking at. | 17:12 |
| GrueMaster | But it may have been my desktop. I'll know more after a bit. I'm reimaging my SD now. | 17:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | k | 17:13 |
| GrueMaster | Looks like I can mount the rootfs on the img file again. Seriously thinking my desktop had gone south now. | 17:14 |
| GrueMaster | weird. | 17:14 |
| ogra_cmpc | hmm | 17:14 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_cmpc: I thought you had fixed the hostname issue? | 17:32 |
| ogra_cmpc | not yet | 17:32 |
| GrueMaster | ok | 17:32 |
| GrueMaster | Hmmm. Looks like there was a new ubiquity release after Alpha 3. | 17:39 |
| ogra_cmpc | several fixes today, yes | 17:40 |
| GrueMaster | today? I am looking at Aug 6 release. | 17:42 |
| ogra_cmpc | hmm | 17:42 |
| GrueMaster | Guess I will have to wait. | 17:42 |
| ogra_cmpc | i think evan uploaded a slightly broken version before going on vacation | 17:43 |
| ogra_cmpc | i saw riddell complain today | 17:43 |
| ogra_cmpc | so our brokeness might be related | 17:44 |
| GrueMaster | Well, I found an error in the logs. Went into a shell like you said. Have a GTKWarning: Can't open Display. | 17:44 |
| ogra_cmpc | i think you should try adding debug-ubiquity to the kernel cmdline | 17:45 |
| ogra_cmpc | that should spit out more | 17:45 |
| GrueMaster | Will do. | 17:46 |
| ogra_cmpc | the two fixes uploaded today were related to python-webkit/-vte dependencies | 17:46 |
| ogra_cmpc | might be that we hit the very same issue but dont see the actual error | 17:46 |
| GrueMaster | Ouch. I have a basset hound puppy attacking my bare feet when I try to work on the panda. | 17:48 |
| ogra_cmpc | heh | 17:49 |
| ogra_cmpc | you got a new dog ? | 17:49 |
| GrueMaster | No, he's almost 2 now. We've had him almost a year. | 17:49 |
| ogra_cmpc | ah | 17:49 |
| GrueMaster | But I put a blanket for him under my side desk that has the panda & dove work spaces. | 17:50 |
| GrueMaster | And he has huge paws. | 17:51 |
| lag | Does anyone know how to mount HDDs once in a schroot? | 18:37 |
| ework | mattman, so I got ubuntu working | 18:51 |
| ework | mattman, I got ubuntu 10.04, 10.10, and linaro all working using your kernel and the stock kernel from ARM. What I was missing was to setup ttyAMA0 for login so I had no idea it was working. I wrote some bullets of how I got 10.04 on the board that I would like to add to the wiki but they are kind of crude right now. | 18:53 |
| GrueMaster | lag: make sure to mount none /dev -t devtmpfs for the drives to show up. Then they should mount. | 18:53 |
| lag | GrueMaster: bingo! | 18:56 |
| lag | GrueMaster: Phew! Thanks for that | 18:56 |
| GrueMaster | np. | 18:56 |
| lag | Are there any scripts which are run on entry to the schroot - I'd like to place that line in there | 18:57 |
| lag | Or is it okay to put it in the fstab? | 18:57 |
| GrueMaster | I think that is done by init on boot normally. | 18:57 |
| lag | Oh, so when I restart my machine, it will just work? | 18:58 |
| lag | I can't see that myself :) | 18:58 |
| GrueMaster | it should just work on boot. Running a chroot environment is a bit different. | 18:59 |
| lag | Phew! | 19:12 |
| lag | The answer: | 19:12 |
| lag | In /etc/schroot/mount-defaults: | 19:13 |
| lag | /home/lag /home/lag nonerw,bind 0 0 | 19:13 |
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| lag | /dev /dev none rw,bind 0 0 | 19:13 |
| lag | :D | 19:13 |
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| mattman | ework: sorry, stepped away for a moment. glad to hear your up and running. | 19:24 |
| ework | mattman, I was working on cleaning up my instructions on installing ubuntu 10.04 so I can post them on the wiki. I already logged in through launchpad so it looks like I have edit permissions | 19:25 |
| mattman | ework: great, i'll be looking for your additions. | 19:26 |
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| hrw | I love oom on c3 | 19:59 |
| hrw | need to finally dist-upgrade it to fresh maverick | 19:59 |
| hrw | it is amazing how slow beagleboard C3 is when nothing runs on it + ssh session | 20:03 |
| hrw | nothing = NM+dbus+wpa-supplicant+modem-manager | 20:03 |
| rcn-ee | hrw, put a nice fast usb harddrive with some swap.. ;) | 20:04 |
| hrw | rcn-ee: such bare system should fit in 256MB ram | 20:04 |
| hrw | and 0.5GB swap is on pata hdd on usb | 20:05 |
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| ework | mattman, have you been able to get X working? | 20:45 |
| ework | mattman, the instructions I'm working on now is just getting the base system up and running | 20:45 |
| mattman | ework: i am using mostly the base system also | 20:46 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: didn't generate the kernel with the reclaim-related patches yet because they require more patches that are at the akpm's tree | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: and the original author is still discussing the patches upstream | 20:47 |
| ework | mattman, I suppose it should work with some form of framebuffer driver but haven't looked into that yet. I did and apt-get of ubuntu-desktop after the base system was up. | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | once we get the patches upstream, or at least organized at an important tree, we can try to see if get any improvement on arm | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | then we can request the kernel people to look at it | 20:48 |
| mattman | ework: let me know how it goes for you, my initial tests with X was the output was very "jittery" | 20:48 |
| mattman | ework: i didn't dig very far to see what was going on. | 20:48 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: as it helps a lot on the desktop side (it seems), I guess they'll probably accept the patches without many effort | 20:48 |
| rsalveti | accept to do the backport | 20:49 |
| ework | mattman, ok done with my instructions now lets see about pasting them in | 20:53 |
| lag | Grrrr | 20:58 |
| rsalveti | lag: still working? | 21:00 |
| lag | rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476578/ | 21:00 |
| lag | rsalveti: Only when I'm awake :) | 21:00 |
| rsalveti | lag: :-) | 21:01 |
| rsalveti | lag: you can ask dpkg to force the installation | 21:01 |
| lag | Will it affect the initrd.img? | 21:03 |
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| rsalveti | lag: wireless-crda? don't think so | 21:07 |
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| rsalveti | lag: ./rootstock --fqdn panda-maverick --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --serial ttyO2 --components "main universe multiverse" --kernel-image http://rsalveti.net/pub/ubuntu/kernel/maverick/linux-image-2.6.34-903-omap4_2.6.34-903.7rsalveti2_armel.deb | 21:13 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: Ok | 21:13 |
| rsalveti | lag: this is how I generally create a new rootfs with a new kernel | 21:13 |
| lag | I don't want a new rootfs | 21:13 |
| rsalveti | then I just write the rootfs, generate the uI* files and copy to my sd card | 21:13 |
| lag | I want to use the daily image's rootfs | 21:13 |
| lag | It's the whole point for me jumping through these hoops :) | 21:14 |
| rsalveti | lag: oh, true, the bug that only happens with the daily image | 21:14 |
| lag | That's the idea | 21:14 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: ping | 21:39 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: pong | 21:39 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: you have an asound.conf file for blaze/sdp4430 ? | 21:39 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: can check on my panda, but not sure | 21:40 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: you have the audio working properly on your es1.0 panda? | 21:40 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: never tested | 21:41 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: ^? | 21:41 |
| rsalveti | who needs sound anyway hehe | 21:42 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: hehe | 21:43 |
| rsalveti | maybe GrueMaster tested it already, as he tested quite many things already for panda | 21:43 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: is there a tested rootfs posted somewhere? | 21:44 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: there is the pre-installed image that you can test, if you want | 21:44 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: url? | 21:44 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-preinstalled/current/ | 21:45 |
| prpplague | thanks | 21:45 |
| rsalveti | was finding it :-) | 21:45 |
| * prpplague looks | 21:45 | |
| rsalveti | the alpha 3 image, if you prefer http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/maverick/alpha-3/ | 21:46 |
| prpplague | holy cow | 21:46 |
| prpplague | 500meg | 21:46 |
| rsalveti | just dd it at your sd card and boot it | 21:46 |
| rsalveti | yep, lots of packages | 21:46 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: and pick a 4gb sd card :-) | 21:46 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: oh, it's not a tarball? | 21:47 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: nops | 21:47 |
| * prpplague cancels download | 21:47 | |
| rsalveti | you can generate a rootfs with rootstock if you want | 21:47 |
| rsalveti | and then used it at your device or chroot | 21:47 |
| rsalveti | but it's a lot of work for just trying to find a simple file :-) | 21:48 |
| prpplague | hmm | 21:49 |
| prpplague | either way it is a pain | 21:49 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: my biggest rootfs is 16meg | 21:50 |
| ework | mattman, ok saved | 21:51 |
| ework | mattman, let me know what you think and make any corrections or clarifications you think are needed | 21:52 |
| mattman | ework: thank you, i'll take a look at them. | 21:52 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: no sound | 21:52 |
| rsalveti | doesn't seems to work by default | 21:52 |
| ework | mattman, the instructions are somewhat generic and could apply to a number of development boards in some places | 21:52 |
| rsalveti | not with pulseaudio at least | 21:53 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: oh | 21:53 |
| rsalveti | hm, let me check if I'm getting something from the hdmi output | 21:54 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: are you guys testing with blaze and sdp as well? | 21:54 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: I know ogra_cmpc have one blaze, but don't know if he is testing the image on it or not | 21:54 |
| prpplague | hmm ok | 21:54 |
| * prpplague wonders who at ubuntu-arm is responsible for the audio testing | 21:55 | |
| prpplague | its kinda like no one is using audio with omap4 | 21:56 |
| hrw | prpplague: remember that this is #ubuntu-arm not #angstrom - here devs generate 0.5GB images as base ones | 21:59 |
| prpplague | yea | 22:00 |
| rsalveti | hrw: we'll have a real base one later on | 22:00 |
| ogra_cmpc | prpplague, audio should work fine via HDMI | 22:01 |
| ogra_cmpc | and if you need an asound.conf file thats a bug with the compiled in defaults, audio should just work, i'm aware that we have to still do some work here | 22:03 |
| ogra_cmpc | pulse as well as the kernel defaults for the asoc driver will still need to be touched | 22:04 |
| ogra_cmpc | rsalveti, persia is tasked with fixing pulse as soon as he comes back online | 22:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | (he just moved houses and seems to have some connection issues) | 22:05 |
| rsalveti | ogra_cmpc: hm, ok | 22:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | it needs a special config | 22:06 |
| mattman | ework: thanks for making those additions, they are very helpful | 22:06 |
| ework | mattman, glad you appricate them :) | 22:08 |
| ndec | prpplague: do you have /sys/devices/platform/soc-audio on your panda? | 22:09 |
| rsalveti | ogra_cmpc: and with blaze, did you tested it already? | 22:09 |
| rsalveti | don't know if we also have speakers at blaze | 22:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | we dont iirc | 22:09 |
| ndec | rsalveti: ogra_cmpc: we have audio on blaze, but it requires proper asound.conf, and a couple of changes in pulse config | 22:10 |
| prpplague | ndec: yea | 22:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | ndec, the same pulse changes we need for panda, right ? | 22:10 |
| ndec | prpplague: so at least, all drivers are compiled in. you will only be missing the ascound.conf | 22:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | if you need an asound.conf something is wrong | 22:10 |
| ndec | ogra_cmpc: yes. same changes (it's basically to tell pulse to use fixed point resampling, instead of floating point) | 22:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | right | 22:11 |
| prpplague | yea, i just wanted to make sure i have the correct things turned on for the headset | 22:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | thats on persias list | 22:11 |
| ndec | ogra_cmpc: well... this, I am not sure. audio h/w pieces is quite complex on OMAP4, and I am not up to speed with this. | 22:11 |
| ndec | prpplague: so you never tried audio on panda (i mean on the headset)? | 22:12 |
| ogra_cmpc | ndec, well, if you need an asound.conf it means you need to override a default, the default should always work | 22:12 |
| prpplague | ogra_cmpc: you have _any_ audio working on any omap4 ? | 22:12 |
| prpplague | ndec: yea i have had the audio working on earlier L24.x kernels | 22:12 |
| ogra_cmpc | prpplague, iirc we had working audio via HDMI on the panda in prague | 22:12 |
| prpplague | ogra_cmpc: yea, the hdmi audio seems to be working fine | 22:13 |
| ndec | prpplague: did you grep is4430 is the audio driver code? | 22:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | and i think the panda kernel (falsely?) defaults to the HDMI device | 22:13 |
| ndec | prpplague: /is4430/is4430sdp/ | 22:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | on the panda the default should be the headphone jack imho | 22:14 |
| ogra_cmpc | while on the blaze hdmi might make more sense | 22:14 |
| ndec | ogra_cmpc: do you needs what needs to be done for ubuntu sound preference to figure this out, and allow configuration? | 22:14 |
| ogra_cmpc | i didnt play with it yet but shouldnt be to hard to figure out | 22:15 |
| prpplague | ogra_cmpc: _shouldn't_ , but i'm working with a new kernel build with a ton of changes | 22:20 |
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| rsalveti | GrueMaster: still there? | 23:51 |
| GrueMaster | yes, I'm here. Didn't see the earlier posts until now. | 23:51 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: found the problem anyway, thanks | 23:52 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: http://rsalveti.net/pub/ubuntu/kernel/maverick/linux-image-2.6.34-903-omap4_2.6.34-903.7rsalveti2_armel.deb | 23:52 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: the deb file with latest kernel plus some patches from robclark to improve the dvi support | 23:52 |
| rsalveti | if you want to test | 23:52 |
| rsalveti | mine doesn't work because I'm getting -vsync with my monitor | 23:53 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: np, did you create a new asound.conf? | 23:53 |
| GrueMaster | I do, but it may be a little while. I'm trying to either resolve the oem-config issue or will file a bug shortly. | 23:53 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: yea, manually | 23:53 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: np, just to let you know about if, if you're willing to test :-) | 23:54 |
| rsalveti | *it | 23:54 |
| rsalveti | prpplague: is it working at the headset output for you now? | 23:54 |
| GrueMaster | That's what I'm here for. | 23:55 |
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| prpplague | rsalveti: yea | 23:58 |
| rsalveti | nice, good to know that it works :-) | 23:59 |
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