[00:00] <yofel> devildante: did you ever try to patch a package yet?
[00:00] <devildante> yofel: I didn't change /etc/reportbug.conf :p
[00:00] <devildante> yofel: no :( but I want to learn :)
[00:00] <yofel> oh ^^
[00:01] <yofel> well, if you want to make sure that when running dch -i the changelog uses your correct name and email adress add these lines to your ~/.bashrc (and replace the values with yours :P)
[00:02] <yofel> export DEBFULLNAME='Philip Muskovac'
[00:02] <yofel> export DEBEMAIL='yofel@gmx.net'
[00:03] <yofel> (those should match with what you set in your gpg key btw.)
[00:04] <devildante> yofel: thanks for the info :)
[00:05] <yofel> devildante: how does your changelog entry look like actually?
[00:07] <devildante> yofel: "src/commands.c: replaced remaining pauseme reference with vifm-pauseme"
[00:09] <devildante> okay, the bug has been acknowledged :)
[00:10] <yofel> devildante: well, I meant the complete entry, but here's how it should look like in general: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476169/
[00:11] <yofel> the LP: #xxxx will close the bug automatically if the package gets uploaded to the archive
[00:11] <devildante> meh, I didn't put the LP
[00:11] <devildante> but the rest is fine :)
[00:13] <yofel> debian bug 592562 looks fine :)
[00:13] <ubot2> Debian bug 592562 in vifm "vifm: Vifm pause doesn't work when not using screen mode" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/592562
[00:15] <yofel> devildante: now it would be helpful if you could link both bugs on launchpad
[00:18] <yofel> for debian the process is a bit different as that's not an upstream project but a distribution (ask launchpad why it cares about that...) so click on 'Also affects Distribution' select debian and give it the url
[00:18] <devildante> yofel: done :)
[00:19] <devildante> yofel: and I added the "patch-forwarded-debian" tag
[00:20] <yofel> devildante: good, now... what importance ?
[00:20] <devildante> yofel: for the ubuntu package?
[00:20] <yofel> yes
[00:21] <devildante> yofel: I would say medium
[00:21] <bdmurray> wow that's great
[00:22] <bdmurray> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jhead
[00:22] <bdmurray> 2 of the 3 bugs are update requests that are fix released
[00:24] <yofel> devildante: reason?
[00:26] <devildante> yofel: scratch that, low would be best
[00:27] <devildante> "A bug that has a moderate impact on a non-core application"
[00:28] <yofel> agreed
[00:29] <yofel> devildante: so, if you want to get that uploaded to maverick, you'll need a debdiff first (at least that's the way I know)
[00:30] <yofel> you have 2 .dsc files in your parent folder, right?
[00:35] <devildante> yofel: yes
[00:37] <yofel> devildante: ok, then run 'debdiff vifm_0.4-1ubuntu2.dsc vifm_0.4-1ubuntu3.dsc > vifm_0.4-1ubuntu3.debdiff' (maybe adjust the version if neccessary)
[00:37] <yofel> then you'll have the debdiff, can you pastebin it so I can look at it?
[00:38] <devildante> yofel: okay
[00:39] <devildante> yofel: http://pastebin.com/ZG316XDg
[00:41] <yofel> devildante: looks right, only one thing: open it in a text editor and change line 20 so it says '+    pauseme (LP: #615563)'
[00:41] <devildante> yofel: done
[00:42] <yofel> devildante: ok, now attach the debdiff to the bug report (and don't flag it as a patch)
[00:43] <yofel> after that click on 'subscribe someone else', search for 'ubuntu sponsors' and click on 'Ubuntu Sponsors Team'
[00:43] <devildante> yofel: debdiff was attached
[00:44] <devildante> yofel: done :)
[00:44] <yofel> good, now wait until someone respons
[00:44] <yofel> *responds
[00:44] <devildante> yofel: okay, and thanks a lot :)
[00:44] <yofel> np
[00:44] <devildante> ok, gotta go, see ya all :)
[03:03] <hggdh> hum. Email received: Dear sir. I am glad to subscribe to <encryption-related> mailing list to discuss the encription techniques. Currently i am new to encription and keys.
[03:03] <hggdh> does not look promising
[07:52] <drew212> ddecator: hey man, you around?
[07:57] <drew212> micahg: whats the command to run firefox in debugging mode?
[07:58] <drew212> err in gdb*
[08:01] <drew212> nevermind =)
[11:46] <devildante> hi all :)
[12:38] <devildante> can someone triage bug 615490?
[12:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 615490 in rox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Pinboard large image backdrop fails to centre properly (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615490
[12:38] <devildante> importance low
[12:38] <bilalakhtar> devildante: me
[12:39] <bilalakhtar> devildante: done
[12:39] <devildante> bilalakhtar: thank you :)
[12:40] <bilalakhtar> devildante: You're welcome
[13:10] <drizzle> hi all
[13:10] <hggdh> holstein: I am here
[13:13] <drizzle> (05:11:57 PM) drizzle1: can someone mark the following bugs as wishlist
[13:13] <drizzle> (05:11:58 PM) jfi_ [~jfi@vbo91-3-82-243-221-231.fbx.proxad.net] entered the room.
[13:13] <drizzle> (05:11:58 PM) drizzle1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/615876
[13:13] <drizzle> (05:12:01 PM) ubot2: Ubuntu bug 615876 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "Add Ubuntu One note to Tomboy fresh install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[13:13] <drizzle> (05:12:04 PM) drizzle1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/615874
[13:13] <drizzle> (05:12:08 PM) ubot2: Ubuntu bug 615874 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Add Ubuntu One email to Evolution fresh install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[13:13] <drizzle> (05:12:08 PM) drizzle1: please
[13:13] <ubot2> drizzle: Error: Bug #615876 is private.
[13:13] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 615876 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "Add Ubuntu One note to Tomboy fresh install (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615876
[13:13] <ubot2> drizzle: Bug 615874 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/615874 is private
[13:13] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 615874 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Add Ubuntu One email to Evolution fresh install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[13:14] <drizzle> i think they need to be forwarded upstream
[13:16] <om26er> drizzle, no they dont need to be. its thing Ubuntu One team's task
[13:16] <om26er> all the three bugs.
[13:38] <vish> drizzle: done.
[13:41] <vish> drizzle: lol! for those 2 bugs you copy-pasted a lot of lines ;p
[14:50] <devildante> can someone mark bug 614388 as "Won't fix"?
[14:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 614388 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "Sugar emulator should start in fullscreen mode (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614388
[14:53] <gorilla> devildante: Let em have a look.
[15:02] <gorilla> devildante: Do you know where the template is for a "won't fix" response. I'm 90% asleep :-/
[15:04] <pedro_> devildante, done
[15:04] <devildante> pedro_: thanks :)
[15:04] <devildante> gorilla: I don't think there is one
[15:04] <pedro_> you're welcome
[15:05] <pedro_> gorilla, there's no stock response for won't fix, you need to give a reason and each one is different
[15:06] <gorilla> pedro_: okay.. thanks.
[15:06] <gorilla> oh.. and how can I go from New to won't fix?
[15:07] <gorilla> I suspect that I don't have the permission to do so.
[15:08] <hggdh> gorilla: what is the bug?
[15:08] <charlie-tca> gorilla: you need to be a bug-control member
[15:10] <gorilla> hggdh: bug 614388
[15:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 614388 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "Sugar emulator should start in fullscreen mode (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614388
[15:10] <gorilla> charlie-tca: I thought it could be something like that. Thanks for the confirmation.
[15:10] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[15:12] <hggdh> OK, pedro_ already marked it wontfix
[15:12] <pedro_> hggdh, moi moi!
[15:13] <gorilla> nice work pedro_ :-)
[15:16] <devildante> guys, I *think* bug 614206 should be triaged, but I don't know if the importance should be low or medium
[15:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 614206 in binutils (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "readelf: fixes for multiple crashes (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614206
[15:17] <micahg> devildante: are you a sugar developer?
[15:17] <devildante> micahg: no
[15:18] <micahg> devildante: well, won't fix is usually reserved for something the developers won't do
[15:19] <devildante> micahg: yeah, sorry for that
[15:19] <micahg> or if someone refuses to stop changing the invalid state
[15:19] <devildante> micahg: should I change it to Invalid?
[15:19] <micahg> devildante: you can't :)
[15:20] <micahg> well, since hggdh and pedro_ thought it should be won't fix for whatever reason :-/, I won't mess with it
[15:20] <gorilla> where's pedro_??
[15:20] <devildante> micahg: argh, you're right :p
[15:21] <pedro_> good things about bugs is that you can always re open those
[15:21] <devildante> micahg: in the future, should I mark as Invalid these kinds of bugs?
[15:21] <pedro_> doing that for you devildante
[15:21] <pedro_> devildante, it was re opened
[15:22] <devildante> pedro: thanks :)
[15:23] <devildante> pedro_: I think I will respond to David Farning
[15:23] <micahg> devildante: maybe have a look at the status document you linked to, please let us know if you feel ambiguous about which status after reading it
[15:23] <devildante> micahg: okay
[15:24] <vish> devildante: hehe , did you know the reported was part of the sugar team? :D
[15:24] <vish> reporter*
[15:24] <devildante> vish: no :P
[15:25] <vish> devildante: yeah , wont fix needs to be used with caution , unless you are the developer or have a comment from the developer it can be left as wishlist
[15:26] <devildante> vish: taken note, thanks :)
[15:26] <vish> devildante: yw :)
[15:27] <devildante> can someone triage bug 614206?
[15:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 614206 in binutils (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "readelf: fixes for multiple crashes (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614206
[15:28] <vish> devildante: what importance would you like to set?
[15:28] <devildante> vish: medium, I think
[15:32] <vish> devildante: done. :)
[15:32] <devildante> vish: thanks :)
[15:32] <vish> np...
[15:33] <devildante> I have many thanks in reserve today :p
[15:41] <devildante> who is the upstream for adduser/deluser?
[15:44] <gorilla> devildante: Linux Torvalds? :-P
[15:45] <charlie-tca> As used in the Ubuntu GUI? Should be Ubuntu
[15:45] <devildante> gorilla: :p
[15:46] <gorilla> Linus rather
[15:46] <devildante> charlie-tca: I'm talking about the adduser UNIX command
[15:46] <devildante> see bug 613204
[15:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 613204 in adduser (Ubuntu) "deluser: missing linebreak in output (affects: 1) (heat: 491)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613204
[15:47] <charlie-tca> debian
[15:47] <devildante> charlie-tca: thanks :)
[15:47] <charlie-tca> qnp
[15:47] <charlie-tca> no problem
[16:01] <devildante> charlie-tca: should I forward the patch to Debian?
[16:02] <charlie-tca> I am not up to date on patches. I don't know what the correct prodedure is for that.
[16:03] <charlie-tca> nigelb: Can you help with a patch question? ^^^
[16:06] <nigelb> charlie-tca: just walked in
[16:06] <nigelb> checking
[16:06] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[16:09] <nigelb> devildante: charlie-tca was right.  forward the bug and patch to debian.
[16:09] <nigelb> Remember to be "nice"
[16:09] <devildante> nigelb: okay, thanks :)
[16:09] <devildante> charlie-tca: thanks too :)
[16:09] <charlie-tca> no problem
[16:10]  * charlie-tca doesn't always know the "right" answer, but usually knows where to find it
[16:10] <charlie-tca> thank you, nigelb
[16:10] <nigelb> charlie-tca: that is also the right answer :p
[16:11] <nigelb> (ie knowing where to find it)
[16:11] <charlie-tca> agreed. Sometimes that is more important than knowing all the answers, too
[16:12] <devildante> hmm, to build adduser, you need po4a, which is apparently not in build-deps. is that a bug?
[16:12] <nigelb> devildante: hm, that's strange.  How did that build in the first place then.
[16:12] <devildante> maybe because the builders had po4a in the first place?
[16:13] <yofel> shouldn't be the case, the buildds have really only the very minimum installed
[16:14] <devildante> here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476482/
[16:14] <nigelb> yeah, mostly just the build deps
[16:17] <devildante> quick look at packages.ubuntu.com and packages.debian.org, and po4a seems to be build-depends-indep. What does that mean?
[16:18] <yofel> build depends for architectrue independent package
[16:18] <yofel> ok, the package built fine in maverick pbuilder
[16:18] <nigelb> devildante: what pbuilder did you try? maverick or lucid or debian unstable?
[16:19] <devildante> nigelb: I ran debuild -S
[16:19] <yofel> devildante: sudo apt-get build-dep didn't pull it in?
[16:19] <devildante> as mentioned in wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/Bugs
[16:19] <devildante> yofel: no
[16:19] <yofel> let me try
[16:19] <yofel> hm, right, it doesn't ..
[16:20] <yofel> apt-get bug?
[16:20] <yofel> mvo: ^
[16:20] <drizzle> hi all
[16:20] <yofel> hi drizzle
[16:20] <devildante> yofel: that's beyond my capabilities :p
[16:20] <devildante> hi drizzle :)
[16:20] <nigelb> yofel: we may have hit an apt bug.
[16:21] <mvo> yofel: hello, missed the context
[16:21] <nigelb> yofel: I just did apt-get build-dep and it did pull it
[16:21] <devildante> mvo: po4a is build-dep of adduser, but doesn't get pulled by apt-get build-dep
[16:21] <nigelb> The following NEW packages will be installed: cvs gettext intltool-debian libmail-sendmail-perl libsgmls-perl libsp1c2 libsys-hostname-long-perl po-debconf po4a sp
[16:21] <yofel> mvo: running apt-get build-dep adduser doesn't get the po4a package which is an build-dep-indep for adduser - thus debuild fails
[16:22] <devildante> nigelb: weird...
[16:22] <yofel> it get's pulled in in a chroot though o.O (pbuilder log http://paste.ubuntu.com/476483/)
[16:22] <nigelb> devildante: truely wierd.
[16:23] <yofel> oh wait, apt-get build-dep adduser -> FAIL | aptitude build-dep adduser -> po4a is installed
[16:23] <mvo> devildante: could you file a bug please? maybe a regression from the recent apt merge from experimental
[16:24] <devildante> aptitude output: The following NEW packages will be installed:
[16:24] <devildante>   po4a
[16:24] <devildante> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[16:24] <devildante>   dkms{u} fceux{u} gir1.0-freedesktop{u} gnash{u} gnash-common{u}
[16:24] <devildante>   libboost-date-time1.40.0{u} libboost-thread1.40.0{u}
[16:24] <devildante>   libmono-getoptions2.0-cil{u} libmpcdec3{u} libtorrent-rasterbar5{u}
[16:24] <devildante>   linux-headers-2.6.35-10{u} linux-headers-2.6.35-10-generic{u}
[16:24] <devildante> mvo: should I file a bug in ubuntu or debian?
[16:24] <mvo> devildante: debian is fine as well, make sure you metnion that its the experimental version of apt
[16:24] <devildante> mvo: okay
[16:25] <nigelb> yofel: um, it orked okay for me in lucid.
[16:25] <devildante> mvo: so I file a bug in both launchpad and debian tracker?
[16:25] <yofel> then it's maverick and apt-get from experimental I guess
[16:26] <mvo> yeah, probably fallout from the experimental merge
[16:27] <mvo> there was quite a bit of churn in the code, loads and loads of good stuff, but some fallout is unavoidable I guess
[16:35] <devildante> mvo: what importance on the debian tracker should I put?
[16:37] <devildante> mvo: I guess "does-not-build"?
[16:42] <devildante> okay, bug was sent on debian :)
[16:43] <devildante> should I report it in launchpad?
[16:51] <charlie-tca> Normally, yes
[16:52] <charlie-tca> and add the debian bug number, if you have it
[16:52] <devildante> charlie-tca: okay
[16:52] <devildante> debian bug 592628 :)
[16:52] <ubot2> Debian bug 592628 in apt ""apt-get build-dep adduser" does not install all build-deps" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/592628
[16:59] <ashams> hello vish:
[16:59] <vish> ashams: hey
[16:59] <devildante> all right, bug reported on lp
[16:59] <devildante> thank you all :)
[17:00] <vish> gnome Bug 626593
[17:00] <ubot2> Gnome bug 626593 in User Guide "Gnome ate my boyfriend! Help!" [Critical,Resolved: invalid] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=626593
[17:00] <Pici> ohno
[17:00] <ashams> vish: You have just assigned a Mentor for me, but I'm affraid that I can't find about him.
[17:00] <vish> ashams: he'll mail you as soon as possible.. :)
[17:01] <Pici> bug 100000
[17:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 100000 in malone "There are still too many bug reports (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100000
[17:01] <ashams> ok that's great, thanx
[17:02] <bdmurray> jibel: bug 321093 doesn't seem package specific does it?
[17:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 321093 in mp3info (Ubuntu) "package mp3info 0.8.5a-1 failed to install/upgrade: fork fehlgeschlagen: Cannot allocate memory (heat: 5)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/321093
[17:03] <vish> Pici: gnome bug 100000 is also kinda similar! ;)
[17:03] <ubot2> Gnome bug 100000 in general "Gnome is full of bugs ! (100000 currently)" [Trivial,Resolved: notabug] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100000
[17:04] <charlie-tca> devildante: thanks for helping
[17:04] <Pici> bdmurray: I wouldn't think so.
[17:04] <devildante> bdmurray: from the log, it seems that the bug affects multiple packages
[17:05] <Pici> I was just going to say that.
[17:05] <devildante> bdmurray: so not package specific
[17:05] <devildante> charlie-tca: you're welcome :)
[17:12] <devildante> can someone triage bug 613204?
[17:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 613204 in adduser (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "deluser: missing linebreak in output (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613204
[17:12] <devildante> importance low
[17:13] <charlie-tca> done
[17:17] <devildante> charlie-tca: thanks :)
[17:27] <holstein> hggdh: THANKS
[17:28]  * holstein is just getting moving 
[17:28] <holstein> i gotta run out and do some stuff today
[17:28] <holstein> i'll try and bother you soon though
[17:35] <devildante> Can I seek sponsorship for a patch that is not mine?
[17:35] <bdmurray> surely
[17:36] <devildante> bdmurray: thanks :)
[18:15] <devildante> Should I remove ubuntu-review team when subscribing ubuntu-sponsors to a bug?
[18:15] <maco> i think so, but ask in #ubuntu-reviews
[18:18] <devildante> maco: okay
[18:31] <nigelb> devildante: yes you should.
[18:31] <nigelb> if you're not able to, let me know.  I'll remove it for ya.
[18:31] <devildante> nigelb: thanks :)
[18:32] <devildante> nigelb: I can't :(
[18:32] <devildante> nigelb: it's bug 582797
[18:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 582797 in ldapscripts (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/ldapscripts/runtime.debian in Ubuntu should use /etc/ldap.conf (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582797
[18:34] <nigelb> devildante: done.
[18:34] <nigelb> devildante: I *think* you can bug maco and vish about unsubscribig too :D
[18:34] <nigelb> talk of the devil!
[18:35] <nigelb> devildante: (and yofel too :D)
[18:35] <devildante> vish: do you know if I should remove ubuntu-review team when subscribing ubuntu-sponsors to a bug?
[18:36] <devildante> nigelb: *super-secret voice* (yes, him too :p)
[18:36] <vish> devildante: is nigelb testing me? :)
[18:37] <vish> devildante: or are you really asking?..
[18:37] <devildante> vish: real question :)
[18:38] <vish> devildante: the review workflow is a complex one, but i dont really unsubscribe the team , just set the appropriate tag as required
[18:39] <devildante> vish: this is an ubuntu specific bug, what should I put?
[18:40] <vish> devildante: depends, waiting for the sponsors also works or ping the concerned team
[18:40] <devildante> vish: well, guess I'll just wait :p
[18:40] <devildante> vish: and thank you :)
[18:40] <vish> devildante: np.. :)
[19:57] <nin> pedro_: hello
[19:58] <nin> pedro_: sorry, today i can't, i'm far away from my pc
[20:35] <Darxus> http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ is broken.
[20:36] <Pici> Yes.
[21:15] <devildante> can someone triage bug 597653?
[21:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 597653 in hal-info (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add support for Dell Streak. (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597653
[21:15] <devildante> importance wishlist
[21:16] <seb128> devildante, that should probably be closed since that's deprecated nowadays
[21:17] <devildante> seb128: okay
[21:17] <devildante> seb128: could we "convert" the patch to a non-deprecated package?
[21:18] <devildante> seb128: like udisks
[21:19] <seb128> I guess somebody would need to check first if that's still an issue there
[21:19] <seb128> ie would be nice to know what issue the patch fixes
[21:19] <seb128> could be media-player-info
[21:19] <seb128> that needs a similar change
[21:19] <seb128> or that could be fixed in the udisks world
[21:21] <devildante> it seems it adds USB mass storage support to the Dell streak
[21:21] <devildante> pretty simple patch
[21:25] <seb128> is that not working in the udisks world?
[21:25] <devildante> I don't know, I'm not an udisks developer :p
[21:26] <seb128> well ask on the bug if you want to triage it
[21:33] <devildante> seb128: meh, doesn't seem to be a popular bug
[21:33] <devildante> seb128: plus, I just closed it :p
[21:33] <seb128> heh
[21:36] <njin> pedro_: around ?
[21:38] <pedro_> njin, sort of a bit busy at the moment though
[21:44] <kangarooo> i have crash but i didnt see anything crash. linux-image-2.6.35-14-generic.96860.crash
[21:45] <kangarooo> but i cant report it. after series of answers it gives do i want to post to kernelops and then after yes it gathers data and gives error Crash file is injured or something. and IOError(13, 'Permission denied')
[21:48] <yofel> ah, that file was created as root and you'll need to run apport  as root too to access it (I *think* - at least that's the easiest workaround)
[21:53] <kangarooo> yofel: at first it opened as user then it in middle of it (after od before questions) asked for pass. ill try to execute from terminal with sudo
[21:54] <micahg> yofel: why not just chown it to one's own user so bug submission works?
[21:54] <yofel> oh right, that should work too
[21:54] <micahg> otherwise Firefox will have issues :)
[21:56] <yofel> oh right ^^
[21:57] <kangarooo> hmm strange it worked. why when it asked for passw it didnt run as sudo..
[22:44] <hggdh> there are things here: (1) apport automatic processing (the crash icon on the panel) -- it will ask for the password and will run as root;
[22:44] <hggdh> (2) manually running apport -- it will *not* ask for password
[22:46] <hggdh> also, if apport-gtk was not run, the crash report is incomplete
[22:47] <hggdh> (or apport-kde, as it may)
[23:27] <MichealH> Hi. I am part of the bug squad on Launchpad but somehow I cant Triage bugs. Why?
[23:28] <MichealH> Anyone?
[23:29] <micahg> MichealH: setting bugs to triaged is a function of bug control, you can request bugs to be set in here
[23:30] <MichealH> Ahh Okay but doesn't applying for BugControl mean triaging 5 bugs?
[23:30] <micahg> MichealH: it means triaging a lot more than 5, you just show 5 in the app
[23:31] <MichealH> Yeah, I know
[23:31] <micahg> MichealH: like I said, you can request it to be set in here, the triaged status tells developers there's something to look at here, so it's restricted
[23:31] <MichealH> Does it mean you had gotten someone to triage the bugs?
[23:32] <micahg> MichealH: no, it means ready for a dev to work on it (i.e. has all necessary info)
[23:32] <MichealH> Yeah
[23:32] <nisshh> MichealH: triaging is much more than just setting a bug to triaged :)
[23:32] <MichealH> I read the guide
[23:34] <MichealH> Do you prefer bugs triaging suggestions. In batch or one by one? It's just
[23:34] <MichealH> ... I browse alot
[23:35] <MichealH> Thanks anyway for clearing it up. See you tomorrow
[23:35] <micahg> MichealH: if you feel a bug is ready with all the info, you can post them here with a suggested importance at your leisure
[23:35] <micahg> most of the time there is someone in here that can evaluate and comment
[23:36] <jfi> micahg, * MichealH has quit (Quit: MichealH)
[23:36] <jfi> :-)
[23:36] <micahg> jfi: sorry missed it
[23:43] <hggdh> it is... different. Read the guide, but does not seem to have understood it.
[23:43] <hggdh> Or are we too dense?
[23:45] <micahg> hggdh: no, I think we're ok
[23:46] <hggdh> ah well