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joewilliamsi am having pretty consistent kernel panics with 10.04, i installed linux-crashdump (per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe) but it does not seem to collect the core and reboot automatically. any ideas?02:44
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joewilliamsweird, wrt my earlier message, it works fine in my vmware image but not on my actual servers. any insight is appreciated04:20
jk--joewilliams: do you have the message from the kernel panic?04:21
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El_Presidentehi, i have to bisect the ubuntu kernel for a bug  how do i get this first test kernel elegantly installed?06:42
RAOFRunning “fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic” is a good way to get .debs out of the kernel git tree.07:00
RAOFAfter the appropriate supplications to the machine god, obviously.07:00
RAOFEl_Presidente: Some of the requisite supplications can be found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelForIdiots07:04
El_Presidentety07:05
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smoserapw, jjohansen mentioned a "console/upstart" that you are working on. do you have that number ?11:35
apwsmoser, yep .... am working on a bug where upstart jobs fail to open the console randomly11:37
smosernumber ?11:37
apwbug #55417211:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 554172 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "system services not starting at boot (affects: 187) (dups: 15) (heat: 826)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55417211:37
smoseron ec2, i dont see "randomly" for bug 60637311:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 606373 in linux-ec2 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "cloud-init output does not get to console when booted with pv-grub and ramdisk (affects: 1) (heat: 144)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60637311:38
lagapw: /dev/sdb1 on /home/lag type ext2 (rw,relatime)11:38
smoserbut hears to hoping you fix it for me11:38
apwsmoser, you do mention randomly for other services though11:38
smoseri do ?11:38
apwsomeone does11:38
lagapw: From fstab11:39
lagapw: UUID=1ac09563-457e-44d2-9058-fc77892447ae /home/lag       ext2 relatime                   0  011:39
apwsmoser, in comments 5 and 611:39
apwyou imply that actually other things don't get out sometimes too11:40
smoseroh. well, in my experience, the "random" that I see is based upon some event occuring that "fixes" it.  it seems to me that after some point in boot, it starts working again, but is broken in "early upstart". how many jobs run "early" is random. and the jobs do run, they just dont get data to the console.11:40
apwsmoser, am working on getting a test version of upstart ... once thats working i'll ask you to try it, never know might work11:45
smoserapw, yeah, that'd be great.11:46
apwsmoser, and if its the same problem that behaviour might be reasonable, as once something opens the console and uses it the issue goes away11:46
smoserthanks, apw 11:47
apwsmoser, ok finally got the thing built: https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/red/+packages13:02
apwsmoser, are you able to test and see if that helps any13:02
smoseri'll give it a try. hmm.. that changelog entry doesn't seem like it will fix anything for me :)13:03
apwthere were three uploads to get that far ... seems the package in the official packaging branch is missing a builddep, and i also cannot spell13:08
* apw has boot tested it here, only on machines which don't see the issue commonly13:08
apwbut it does at least boot :)13:09
smoserapw, it doesn't seem to fix it for me. 13:27
apwsmoser, ok thats probabally confirmation its a different issue13:27
smoseri booted, saw the issue , installed your deb, and cleaned the instance so it thought it would be "first boot" again, rebooted, and still saw issue.13:28
apwsmoser, still a useful indication .... though i have yet to prove it fixes the issue13:28
smoserthere is one program that runs very early in boot (start on MOUNTED=/ and ifup eth0), that outputs a message that i dont see.13:28
apwsmoser, and is that an upstart job (presuming so)13:29
smoseryes.13:29
smoserapw, were you suggesting somewhere else, that a open by non-upstart of /dev/console would fix something ?13:30
apwsmoser, that would also fix the issue this upstart should fix ... as holding it open avoids the race which causes the issue for me13:31
apwit is suggesting its a different issue ... perhaps a console issue on xen13:31
apwthough i need to 100% prove this does fix the issue, which is harder as i cannot reproduce it in upstart13:32
smoserright.13:32
apwstill a boot test even is useful to me, as its pretty dangerous to upgrade upstart ... its not like we have an older one to boot into13:32
smoserso if i had an upstart job that did not do console output, that started on starting, opened /dev/console, and then daemonized , that basically would fix it ?13:32
apwit would be equivalent to the fix in upstart yes13:33
apwprobabally an upstart job with console which did exec sleep 60 would probabally do it13:33
apwas a confirmation its not that problem13:34
asalhi all13:40
asali have a problem with my usb flash mass storage as follows13:40
asalwhen i insert my flash in usb port it is detected by linux & kde but it is mounter only as read-only13:40
asaland when i use the command "dd of=/dev/sda count=1 bs=512"13:40
asalit reports me that the file-syste is read-only13:40
asalthis matter is repeated by any linux that i htested including ubuntu-10.10 and knoppix 5.1 and 5.313:41
asalis there anyone knowing my solution?13:41
smbSure there does not happen to be a write-protect switch?13:42
asalsmb: no 13:43
asalsmb: it has no any key for write-protecting13:43
asalis was with no problem until is is inserted on a Windows-XP machin and a virus poluted it :-(13:44
asaland then it get this problem and it is write-protected with all kind of linuxes and also on Windows and DOS and any operating system :-(13:45
asalit was with no problem until it is inserted on a Windows-XP machin and a virus poluted it :-(13:45
smbMight be something that sw can change. In dmesg you should see messages from the block layer when the stick gets detected13:45
asalyes , I saw dmesg and there is a sentence such: "Write-protect is on" :-(13:46
apwasal what make of stick is it ?14:03
smbThere seem to be rare cases when the write-protection has been activated. Though I only found references to windows programs to low-level format up to now14:04
asalit is only one filesystem on this memory and of type Fat32, but14:10
asalthis problem is not related to its partitions and type of them, because14:10
asalafter inserting this usb-memory the "dmesg" command reported about this device: "sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is on"14:10
asalapw: its type is Kingston - silicon-power14:11
diwicbug #61181014:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 611810 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[PATCH] NVIDIA GPU audio-over-HDMI: Patch required to support recent GPUs (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61181014:50
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joewilliamsjk-: yeah here's where i have been putting anything i can gather about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/61485315:27
ubot2Ubuntu bug 614853 in linux-ec2 (Ubuntu) "kernel panic divide error: 0000 [#1] SMP (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]15:27
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mpoiriertgardner: is your mumble working properly ?16:44
tgardnermpoirier, yeah, is yours16:45
mpoiriertgardner: push-to-talk is acting up again...16:45
mpoiriersorry.16:45
mpoirierthe problem is on my side. hold on,.16:46
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JFo\m/ new laptop transition almost complete17:54
lagDoes anyone know how to mount HDDs once in a schroot?18:40
lagI've tried:18:42
lagsudo mount --bind /home/lag /usr3/chroots/maverick-armel/mnt18:42
lagschroot -c maverick-armel18:42
lagls /mnt18:42
lag<nada>18:42
lag:(18:42
lagAlso there are no sdXX devnodes in /dev 18:43
lag:((18:43
lagblkid18:43
lag<nada>18:43
lagfdisk -l18:43
lag<nada>18:43
lagls /dev/disk18:43
lag<nada>18:44
lagSorted 19:14
lagThe answer:19:14
lagIn /etc/schroot/mount-defaults:19:14
lag /dev            /dev             none   rw,bind     0       019:14
lag /home/lag   /home/lag  none rw,bind     0       019:14
lag:D19:14
apwlag, nice20:13
lagIt was a 'mare 20:13
lagWho's responsibility (within Canonical) is this? http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/main/newpkg20:48
astinushttp://packages.ubuntu.com/about/20:49
astinusOr there should be a easy-ish way to file the bug in Launchpad20:50
astinusI've seen that a lot with Lucid (when in development) and now Maverick20:50
lagLaunchpad - what's that?20:51
lag;)20:51
astinusSomething everyone should be forced to learn? ;)20:52
astinusI think the footer covers the problem adequately...20:53
astinus"To report a problem with the web site, e-mail frank@lichtenheld.de"20:53
lagastinus: I saw that, but he doesn't work for Ubuntu20:53
lagastinus: I'll email him anyway20:53
astinuslag: But is listed as the maintainer all the same?20:53
astinuslag: Lots of developers don't *work* for canonical :)20:53
lagastinus: This is true20:54
lagEmailing ...20:54
astinusThey do a pretty good job of picking up talent in areas which are difficult or specialist :)20:54
astinusie; Kernel development, UX/UI stuff to make things pretty20:54
JFolag, will you be in taipei?20:59
* JFo forgets20:59
JFoand what are you still doing online?21:00
JFoit must be dark there by now21:00
lagJFo: Yes, I'll be in Taipei (I'm the first speaker)21:00
* lag quakes21:00
lag:)21:00
JFoheh21:00
lagIt is dark21:00
JFoit is not work time for you anymore... workaholic21:01
* lag has things to get nailed before sleep can commence 21:02
lagJFo: When are you going to arrive? 21:03
JFodunno yet21:03
lagk21:04
JFoPete is fighting with the travel agents21:04
JFothey are a real pain21:04
lagOurs are quality 21:04
JFoyeah, he's resorted to talking to the UK ones now21:04
lagUK are just better :)21:06
lagI want to do some herping while I'm in Taiwan :)21:06
JFoyou want to play with snakes?21:07
lagDid you just look-up herping? :)21:07
JFoI did21:07
astinustravel agents in general suck ;)21:07
JFoGoogle is my friend :)21:07
astinusour ones in Spain are *useless* but the UK lot are adequate if you don't mind explaining things 10 times21:08
JFo<- had no clue what herping was21:08
lagJFo: Have you seen http://www.lmgtfy.com/21:08
astinuslol21:08
lagIt's hilarious :)21:08
lagType something in21:08
lagThen send someone the link21:09
lagVery (patronisingly) amusing 21:09
laghttp://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=herping21:09
JFonice21:09
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lagRight, that's it, my eyes are beginning to hurt22:04
lagJFo: Let me know when you'll be arriving in Taipai when you find out22:04
JFowill do22:04
joewilliamsjk-: have a chance to checkout my bug?22:32
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