[00:04] !offtopic [00:04] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [00:05] +1. [02:51] popey: You don't want to do that though, your signal to noise ratio goes down [02:51] Also, did someone ask for ubottu to stop doing that? [05:01] ipc in -ot is swearing after being told off for it [05:01] IdleOne, Flannel ?? [05:02] yes [05:02] IdleOne: are you a -ot op? [05:02] I don't have ops in -ot [05:02] oh oops [05:02] funkyHat: ping [05:02] txwikinger ping [05:04] maco: I believe elky does [05:07] maco called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (ipc) [05:16] maco: I'm here [05:16] Flannel: too late. tony got it [05:16] Ah, as is Mr Yarusso [05:16] hmm tony? [05:16] first name basis [05:16] tonyyarusso [05:17] lol [05:17] * IdleOne is silly [05:17] actually, there's this commercial where the tagline is "Tony's got it!" so i was thinking of that [05:17] for like a year i read tonyyarusso as "tonya russo" [06:28] hi me podrian kitar el ban? [06:28] dvinchi: do you speak english? [06:29] IdleOne, no speak ingles [06:30] que canal? [06:33] dvinchi: entra in #ubuntu-irc i ablas con un op de #ubuntu-es [06:37] me podrian kitar el ban de ubuntu-es [06:38] ?? [06:38] please [06:38] dvinchi, not here [06:38] dvinchi, /join #ubuntu-irc [06:39] dvinchi: tiennes que entrar in #ubuntu-irc por reglar este ban [06:41] dvinchi: Por favor, haga este canal. [06:42] ya fui ahi [06:42] pero nadie contesta [06:42] a hora tienne que esperar [06:43] pero no in este canal. [06:43] ok [06:44] nice Spanish :) [06:44] err rusty [06:44] my spelling is way off [06:44] haven't spoken it in 1.5 yrs [06:46] My brother in law is from El Salvador but refuses to speak to me in Spanish :/ [06:46] I have to go back to the US so I can speak in Spanish more [06:46] heh [07:51] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist filling up: 479 bans) [08:28] why the hell do i keep getting redirected in here?! [08:39] Little hard to tell the motivation behind some bans without comments. I am guessing his ban was due to the /part message he chose. [12:12] ikonia: Dude, your friend's back in -server as Somoel? [12:32] not again [12:32] can someone with ops in -server please remove Somoel he is ban dodging [12:33] and please put the bshellz.net ban in place as I've put on ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu-offtopic [12:38] jussi: I've put a blanket ban on bzshells rather than just the one host as the admins do not wish to limit people to just signing up and getting another shell [12:38] the conversations I've had with them, they don't really want to police users on their box, so I put a blanket ban in place, ala tor [12:39] ikonia: I want to have a chat about that issue with the rest of the ircc first. [12:40] sure, but just be aware there is blanket bans in #ubuntu/#kubuntu/#xubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic [12:40] I removed the shellium ones as the admin's are keen to keep their servers clean and policed [13:26] wonder if that is happydonut (termtermterm) [13:37] servertech bot run by servertechpro was banned as a repeater bot earlier (again banned) [14:09] IdleOne: pong [14:16] hello plz unbanned me in ubuntu-offtopic [14:16] jungli - no [14:16] i dunno why i banned there ? [14:16] you do [14:16] please don't play dumb jungli [14:17] now i got the job and i stop trolling [14:17] too late [14:17] you joined this channel the other day, tried to troll me with "debian rocks | ikoina£ then left [14:17] your behaviour is unacceptable, you will not be unbanned [14:18] plz sir kindly grant ny request [14:18] no [14:18] !appeals > John-Smith [14:18] John-Smith, please see my private message [14:18] now i am php devloper and i want to make my friend at there :) [14:18] John-Smith: please follow the appeals process bazhang has just had ubottu pm you [14:19] John-Smith: you will not be unbanned at this time, [14:19] ok sir as your wish but i am happy now :) [14:19] ok, bye === John-Smith is now known as Jungli [14:20] ugh [14:20] just joined #ubuntu [14:20] he'll be fine [15:31] good form pici [15:31] I hit the enter key pretty hard there :P [15:32] make sure that ban sticks ! [16:06] [16:39] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist filling up: 485 bans) [16:51] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist filling up: 485 bans) [16:54] lies [18:37] gr.archive DOWN. [18:37] Thanks for the heads up [20:36] I thought the bot had been stopped messaging the channel ? [20:50] jpds: what happened ? [20:50] Oh, packages.u.c. [21:01] didn't sticky get kicked for debian comments the other day ? [21:01] * Pici shrugs [21:02] what is sticky? [21:02] a stick? [21:02] a nick [21:02] a user [21:02] and BT disagrees with me [21:02] oh [21:33] what happened to my edit request for !releases? [21:40] In #edubuntu, alkisg said: !setup-ltsp is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/installLTSPlucid [21:42] guntbert: give me a minute, I don't know about your request, but lets sort it out [21:42] alkisg: hi there [21:42] Hello [21:42] what's up, and how can we help today [21:43] I was just looking how can we add bots for #edubuntu, but I see highvoltage is an ubuntu-ops, so I guess we're ok :) [21:43] ***not bots, facts [21:43] which bot ? [21:43] ubottu, but not bot, I mean just facts [21:43] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [21:43] E.g. !setup-ltsp is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/installLTSPlucid [21:43] if you do !fact is = blah [21:43] it will get submitted for addition [21:44] Is this for all channels? Or can we have #edubuntu - specific facts? [21:44] if you ask in edubuntu it gets forwarded and you can have an edubuntu only factoid, [21:44] guntbert: you there ? [21:45] ikonia: yes [21:45] guntbert: want to give me a quick overview ? [21:45] Is there some way to mark requests as edubuntu specific? [21:45] (requests done from #edubuntu) [21:45] alkisg: maybe drop in here and say "this is an edubuntu only factoid" [21:45] other than that, I don't think so [21:46] or you can do !no fact-#edubuntu is blah [21:46] ikonia: of course - the releases factoid contains a broken link (http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases), I fond and provided a fix [21:46] !releases [21:46] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [21:46] *found [21:46] guntbert: what's the link ? [21:46] Thank you ikonia, I wouldn't want to bother people here much, so I'll make a list and ask when it's somewhat complete :) [21:46] alkisg: it's no bother, always happy to help [21:47] ikonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [21:47] the complete request was [21:47] !no releases is reply Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [21:47] In #ubuntu-ops, guntbert said: !no releases is reply Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [21:47] !no releases is Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [21:47] I'll remember that ikonia [21:47] darn it, jumped the gun [21:48] releases [21:48] guntbert: is what I've put acceptable ? [21:48] !releases [21:48] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [21:49] thank you hook [21:49] ikonia: of course - I did the same thing - just replace one link with another [21:49] cool [21:49] ikonia: you're welcome [21:49] just checking [21:49] I joined just in time, apparently [21:49] guntbert: saw you ask a few times, so all good now ? [21:50] ikonia: all good now - I only wondered why it took two days for someone to fix it after I did the search already :-) [21:51] sorry for being slow, I was a bit out of the loop on what you where asking [21:51] I don't know what the delay was as I miseed the conversation, but someone can always change it to something better, I'd rather not have a broken link for such an important factoid though [21:51] good eyes guntbert [21:52] ikonia: no, please don't misunderstand - its perfectly ok to not immediately know what is the matter - I was talking about the team as a whole.... [21:52] guntbert: ~I'm sure it was a disscussion point, but as no-ones piped up to stop me, I'm sure if can be changed later if this a problem [21:52] right, I'm away for a while, [21:52] thanks [21:52] ikonia: have a nice time and thx :-) [22:17] why? [22:17] arrrghhh: thanks for joining [22:17] arrrghhh: it's only 2 minutes as I don't want to talk in #ubuntu [22:17] pm? meh. [22:17] I totally understnad how frustrating it is when someone won't help themsevles, but you can't tell them to leave, or call them a lazy piece of ..... [22:18] when they're obviously being a you-know-what? [22:18] i'm here to help, but not when people act like that. [22:18] a non-technical end user? [22:18] there obviously not computer familier, or a little ahead of their time [22:18] arrrghhh: your a good helper, so I don't want you to have a problem in ubuntu, just walk away if it winds you up [22:19] uhm that dude obviously was just being a jerk. [22:19] perhaps you didn't read what he said... [22:19] arrrghhh: what did I miss [22:19] arrrghhh: I may have missed something [22:19] arrrghhh: not wqhen you can do it for me [22:19] in response to my link that i hand-fed him. [22:19] arrrghhh: ok - so that's lazy and I'll speak to him about that [22:20] that's not what helping is about, [22:20] well it's not just lazy [22:20] at the same time, you can't tell him to leave or call him a name [22:20] excuse my french, but that's being a prick. [22:20] arrrghhh: I agree, and I'll speak to him about it [22:20] that's the thing, i didn't call him a name. i agree i shouldn't have said lazy piece of... but i stopped short of actually calling him anything :P [22:20] arrrghhh: I know, but we all know what you meant [22:20] uh, actually i would say that you called him lazy [22:21] well yea [22:21] he is [22:21] that's a fact [22:21] which is calling him something [22:21] wow... alrighty then. [22:21] arrrghhh: everyone gets frustrated and loses it once in a while, so don't worry, just please (easier said than done) just walk away [22:21] i'm fine [22:21] * maco recommends lolcats [22:21] it's just when my help is met with that [22:21] makes me a little upset [22:21] arrrghhh: great, I know how frustrating that is [22:21] it's easy to do, [22:22] if you want to jump out of this channel and back into ubuntu, that's fine, I just wanted 2 minutes for you to calm down and see why you where getting spoken to about it, [22:22] lol that's fine. i knew why you were talking to me. [22:22] i knew what i 'did wrong'. [22:22] cool, [22:24] arrrghhh: if you want to drop out of this channel, I'll talk to the other party now [22:24] fine [22:24] thanks [22:24] arrrghhh: ? [22:24] sorry wanted to see the topic of the channel [22:24] wondering what it is for haha :P [22:25] arrrghhh: as discussed please [22:25] Emery: be with you in a moment [22:25] thank you for joining [22:25] ok [22:25] oh you want me to leave? sorry. [22:25] arrrghhh: thanks [22:26] ok so ? [22:26] Emery: just wanted to talk to you about what just went on in #ubuntu [22:26] first of all we've spoke to arrrghhh and explained he shouldn't have called you names or been so agressive, which he agress on , so no excuses there [22:27] that said, the channl is full of people who give there time for free, and spend a lot of time helping people, so when there is a link on page saying "click here for detailed instructions" and someone points you at that, responding with "so you can do it for me" isn't really going to help build a positive relationship with them [22:27] ok [22:28] i responded with that due to his sarky comment [22:28] i had checked that link before hand [22:28] or i wouldn't of asked [22:28] ok, so explaining that in your question may help people be more tollerent [22:28] eg: I've read the link on how to install, but I'm stuck with X, Y and Z [22:29] well there are various ways i could of asked the question, granted. [22:30] but the response was far from acceptable [22:30] I agree, and that's been delt with [22:30] and if he's a member of staff, then it's even worse [22:30] it would just be a little more helpful if you could explain your question better so there is no missunderstanding and people will be more tollerent [22:30] he's not a member of the operator team [22:31] if someone does respond with a negative comment, don't respond back with a sarcastic comment to futher provoke the situation [22:31] that's all really [22:31] help yourself get the answers by asking a good question, and not provoking a situation if one arises [22:32] (I know it's easier said than done also ) [22:32] to be honest i've been using linux for around 5 years i got abit lazy [22:32] everyone does [22:33] Emery: that's all I wanted to talk to you about really, [22:34] while im here though [22:34] what's up ? [22:34] anywhere i can sign up to help with dev or anything ? [22:34] Emery: there are tons of ways to contribute [22:34] !contribute [22:34] To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate [22:34] !motu [22:34] motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [22:35] take a look at those to get you started [22:35] im looking for somthing more than channel help [22:35] oki [22:35] yes, check those links out [22:35] i shall [22:35] alot of spare timer between working at the moment [22:36] time* [22:36] those links will get you started [22:36] alright :) [22:36] excuse me while i go for a smoke [22:37] Emery: you're welcome to leave the channel now, as we have a non-idle policy [22:37] (unless there is something else you need from the operator team) [22:38] sorry i was rolling a cig, will you be around for further assistance if needed? [22:38] sure [22:38] you're welcome to rejoin if you need something from us [22:38] the team is normally active 24x7 and all can help [22:38] 1 more thing [22:38] sure [22:38] i see ubuntu originated in ireland, that true? [22:39] canonical was orginally setup in ireland, the history is on the canonical website [22:39] there are a couple of staff members in here who probably knowbetter, but they don't seem active at the moment [22:40] right im going to dash finish my kubuntu installation, i'll be back later will you be able to provide those links for me again when i'm back [22:40] Emery: you can check them yourself, hit !contribute and !motu in any channel with ubottu in [22:40] Emery: or send a pm to the bot (it's called ubottu) [22:40] alright thanks for the help [22:41] welcome [22:59] In ubottu, rww said: !no, point is Ubuntu periodically updates !LTS versions with point releases (e.g. 10.04.1). These point releases contain only packages already published through normal update channels. If you already have a fully-updated version, you're running the latest point release already! [23:01] why am I banned form #kubuntu when I never was there before? [23:01] hgfgjfgffg: /join #kubuntu-proxy-users wait for the bot to grant access to #kubuntu usually only takes a few seconds [23:02] You sre welcome [23:02] are* [23:03] Can someone please reset the forward to #kubuntu-proxy-users in #kubuntu please. [23:42] I've just removed it in #ubuntu by mistake, what an idiot [23:44] great, now it won't set [23:44] ahhh there we go [23:45] you removed it again in #ubuntu [23:45] because it was wrong [23:45] either chanserv is responding really really slow, or something is wrong [23:47] it won't set ??? [23:48] it's the forward ??? it won't set with the forward on [23:48] hmm [23:48] *!*@gateway/web/*#ubuntu-proxy-users is the proper ban? [23:48] no [23:48] You need to be opped in -proxy-users to set it [23:48] do you ?? [23:49] yes [23:49] I've never seen that before ? [23:49] The channel is not set +F [23:49] that's odd, I can't op in proxy-users either ?? [23:49] I'm sure I used to be able to [23:51] now it works, good spot pici [23:51] I guess I'll need to be op'd in #kubuntu-proxy-users to change #kubuntu to [23:51] yes [23:51] clearly I missed the memo on that part ;) [23:52] So if I understand this right, +F will allow a forward from any channel? [23:52] not allow [23:53] done #kubuntu [23:53] bed time [23:53] thanks Pici, nice spot [23:53] good night [23:54] and thank you ikonia [23:56] IdleOne: yep, goodnight [23:56] IdleOne: er, not you [23:56] ikonia: goodnight [23:57] Pici: so a channel set to +F could be abused [23:57] because it would accept forwards from any location [23:59] Yes. [23:59] IdleOne: but its useful for places like ##fix_your_connection