| === satellit_ is now known as satellit_afk | ||
| * lfaraone waves. | 02:32 | |
| === bernie is now known as bernie_afk | ||
| * lfaraone is looking at sugar-log-a | 03:19 | |
| lfaraone | log approved, uploaded to ftp-master. | 03:51 |
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| dfarning | lfaraone, you rock | 03:52 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: happy to help :) | 03:52 |
| * lfaraone is looking at sugar-irc-a | 03:53 | |
| lfaraone | is ankur around? | 03:56 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, I have not seen him this evening. | 03:57 |
| satellit_afk | dfarning: is http://140.186.70.115/ isos off limits? I am forbidden to access it have the builds moved for USR? | 03:59 |
| dfarning | satellit_afk, sorry I am moving things to usr.sugarlabs.org | 04:01 |
| dfarning | satellit_afk, It is going to take a few more hours to finalized the move. | 04:02 |
| satellit_afk | ok thanks...let me know link when you are done.....) | 04:05 |
| === satellit_afk is now known as satellit_ | ||
| lfaraone | manusheel: do you know if any of the SEETA engineers will be on tonight? (specifically ankur, but if any of them will be would be helpful as well) | 04:13 |
| lfaraone | irc uploaded. | 05:23 |
| * lfaraone -> zzz. | 05:24 | |
| * lfaraone waves. | 14:51 | |
| dfarning | hey lfaraone look like you made good progress on reviews last night. | 14:54 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: heh, thanks. | 14:54 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, what is the plan for today? | 14:54 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: etoys, record, speak. | 14:54 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: log, poll, and irc are now in Debian proper. | 14:56 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, +1. is it time for neeraj to file sync requests for maverick? | 14:58 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: sure. | 14:58 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, ok I'll ask him to do that | 15:00 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: re fullscreen sugar-emulator, someone else disagrees with you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/614388 | 15:00 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, one thing I am confused about.... as a MOTU (or sugar-uploader) can you approve sync requests? | 15:01 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: Yes. | 15:01 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: but the buttons actually need to be pushed by an archive admin. | 15:02 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, ok that explains things. So for now 1) neeraj files, 2) you (as sugar uploader) approve, and 3) archive admin pushes button. | 15:04 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: yep. | 15:05 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Hi Kandarp. | 15:46 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: hello sir. | 15:47 |
| manusheel | lfaraone: Hi Luke. | 15:47 |
| lfaraone | hello manusheel | 15:47 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: We should submit the first set of patches on docstrings at sugar-devel. Kindly send it to me for review. | 15:47 |
| manusheel | lfaraone: Luke, Ankur and team will be around soon. | 15:47 |
| manusheel | lfaraone: Did convey your morning message to them. | 15:48 |
| manusheel | mukul: Hi Mukul. | 15:48 |
| mukul | manusheel sir: Hi | 15:48 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Any help required on API documentation part? | 15:48 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: wont be able to create patches right now. | 15:49 |
| lfaraone | manusheel: well, they were all minor changes I committed directly. | 15:49 |
| manusheel | mukul: Let us send the activity for review today. | 15:49 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: it will require some study | 15:49 |
| manusheel | lfaraone: Ok, could you please let me know about the changes. Will document them. | 15:49 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Can you elaborate. Any help required? | 15:49 |
| lfaraone | kandarpk: re sugar-speak-activity, your "GPL" tag is more accurately described as "GPL-1+", since when they don't specify a version, you can assume any that you want. | 15:50 |
| mukul | manusheel sir:yes, but I will make some changes in 15 mins. Then it should be ready as per the mail sent to me. | 15:50 |
| kandarpk | lfaraone: Ok, got it. | 15:50 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: to add a patch, it should be of some relevance. | 15:51 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: I dont kow the functionality of these modules yet | 15:51 |
| manusheel | mukul: Neat. | 15:51 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Ok. | 15:51 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Which functionality are you starting with? | 15:52 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: I think graphics should be aesy to understand | 15:52 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: yesterday tomeu suggested to relate the modules to the sugar UI | 15:52 |
| kandarpk | so in that sense, graphics should be the easiest | 15:53 |
| lfaraone | etoys uploaded. | 15:53 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Sure. That would make sense. | 15:54 |
| manusheel | lfaraone: Very neat. Thanks. | 15:54 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Which sub-module? | 15:55 |
| manusheel | lfaraone: Any specific changes you made in e-toys? | 15:57 |
| lfaraone | manusheel: any changes made can be seen by looking at the log. | 15:58 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: will try graphics.animator. | 15:58 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: it is something related to change in frame with time I guess | 15:58 |
| lfaraone | manusheel: specific to s-etoys-a, I renamed other-X11 in copyright to Expat, I reordered licence text per the proper form, unset DMUA (which I had set previously), corrected a typo in the description, updated my email. | 16:01 |
| kandarpk | lfaraone: corrected GPL to GPL-1+ in speak | 16:02 |
| * lfaraone is looking at record. | 16:03 | |
| manusheel | lfaraone: Thank you. Very helpful. Yes, was looking at the logs. | 16:04 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Neat. | 16:04 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Do we know the developer, who authored this module? | 16:05 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: haven't looked for that. | 16:05 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: I'll just check it out. | 16:05 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Sure, please let me know. | 16:08 |
| * dipankar says hello | 16:08 | |
| dipankar | dfarning, how are you? | 16:09 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, hey | 16:09 |
| lfaraone | hi dipankar | 16:09 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, you wanted to meet us? | 16:10 |
| dipankar | something important | 16:10 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: nothing urgent, I just had some things I wanted to ask you guys to do / look at, but it wasn't a big deal. | 16:11 |
| manusheel | dipankar: Hi Dipankar. Are you able to connect to the jabber server now? | 16:15 |
| dfarning | dipankar, good morning. | 16:18 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: couldn't find much info. about the author of graphics.animator | 16:20 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Ok. | 16:25 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: It seems we have to start with our original plan, i.e. understand things and ask for reviews. | 16:25 |
| kandarpk | alsroot has written some submodules in graphics, if he can help | 16:26 |
| dfarning | dipankar, did you see the discussion on the fullscreen bug? | 16:26 |
| * dipankar is sorry for replying late | 16:27 | |
| dipankar | lfaraone, ok. if you need to discuss anything, do tell us. :) | 16:27 |
| dipankar | manusheel, sir I have to try that | 16:27 |
| * alsroot alsroot rewrote sugar-toolkit(and graphics.animator in particular) in vala, so can help a bit | 16:27 | |
| dipankar | dfarning, yeah I saw that discussion. | 16:28 |
| lfaraone | dipankar / kandarpk , please add a watchfile to sugar-record-activity. | 16:28 |
| dipankar | kandarpk, you up for it? or shall I do it? | 16:28 |
| dipankar | :) | 16:29 |
| dfarning | dipankar, can you check to see how the package gcompris and tux paint open? That will give as a good data point. | 16:29 |
| kandarpk | dipankar: if you are really busy. | 16:30 |
| dipankar | dfarning, ohk. gcompris and tux paint then | 16:30 |
| dipankar | :) | 16:30 |
| dipankar | kandarpk, I am not that busy :) just wanted to confirm whether you are free from your side... | 16:30 |
| manusheel | alsroot: Thank you so much. | 16:30 |
| kandarpk | dipankar: working. | 16:31 |
| dipankar | kandarpk, done. I will do it | 16:31 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: thats great :) | 16:31 |
| manusheel | alsroot: How can our developers understand the code for sugar-toolkit and sugar.graphics module? An approach you would like to suggest? | 16:31 |
| dipankar | any info on polyol? | 16:31 |
| dipankar | dfarning, btw, am I supposed download and check the applications? | 16:32 |
| dipankar | *check -> check their source codes | 16:32 |
| dfarning | dipankar, the original patch rejector had a very good point about expected behavior. We should match expected behavior or create a new standard if one has not yet been defined. | 16:33 |
| dfarning | dipankar, just install them on you computer and see how they open by default -- full screen or windowed. | 16:34 |
| alsroot | manusheel: heh, I can share only my own experience, read the code :) | 16:34 |
| dipankar | dfarning, sorry :( but unable to get you. (your previous statement) | 16:34 |
| alsroot | manusheel: if there is particular questions, will try to ask (but animator stuff is not obvious:/) | 16:34 |
| dipankar | dfarning, * 10 minutes to download tux paint | 16:35 |
| alsroot | s/ask/answer/ | 16:35 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: any suggestion on submodule that will be easy to start with ? | 16:35 |
| manusheel | alsroot: Thanks for the pointers. Appreciate it. | 16:37 |
| dfarning | One of the key points to useability is that things should work the way you expect them to work. Ie apple products are very intuitive. | 16:37 |
| dipankar | dfarning, ohk. like provide what consumer want | 16:38 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: just sugar-toolkit/src/sugar/graphics/animator.py and classes where Animator is in use, e.g., palette.py palettewindow.py | 16:38 |
| dfarning | dipankar, one of the most effective ways to makes things intutative is to make them act similarly ie Ctrl C and Ctrl X are pretty predicatble. | 16:39 |
| dipankar | ok | 16:40 |
| manusheel | dipankar: Usability extends beyond consumer wants. It also looks at what consumer would have not thought about. | 16:40 |
| dfarning | dipankar, we want to do the same thing so all packages focused toward young children open the same way -- either windowed or full screen. | 16:40 |
| manusheel | dfarning: +1 | 16:40 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: Ok, start with animator.py | 16:40 |
| dipankar | manusheel, dfarning ohk. | 16:41 |
| dipankar | dfarning, I will be right back, <dinner> | 16:41 |
| * dipankar is away: Be Right Back | 16:42 | |
| dfarning | dipankar, interestingly usability almost never ask a consumer what they want. Instead they focuse video cameras on users faces, hands and screens while asking users to perform task. | 16:42 |
| dfarning | dipankar, by doing a analysis on how much users struggle/enjoy task the designer determines the UI. | 16:43 |
| dfarning | dipankar, it is a bit more complicated than that:) But in general a developers gut is not a very effective design tool:( unless you are designing tools for developers:) | 16:45 |
| kandarpk | dfarning, lfaraone: how can I remove a file present in two branches from only one of them in a git repo ? | 16:53 |
| * ankur says hi to all :) | 16:54 | |
| dfarning | kandarpk, swith to the branch and git rm FILENAME. | 16:54 |
| dfarning | ankur, hello | 16:54 |
| ankur | dfarning, hello :0 | 16:55 |
| ankur | :) | 16:55 |
| ankur | sorry for ":0" | 16:55 |
| ankur | hi lfaraone | 16:55 |
| lfaraone | kandarpk: if you change one branch the other is unmodified... | 16:56 |
| lfaraone | hi ankur | 16:56 |
| kandarpk | lfaraone, dfarning: Ok. | 16:56 |
| lfaraone | kandarpk / dipankar , did either of you have a chance to get to the watchfile of record? | 16:57 |
| ankur | lfaraone, did you get in touch with sougar-motu developer regarding apport ? | 16:58 |
| kandarpk | lfaraone: I haven't done that. | 16:58 |
| lfaraone | ankur: I provided you with a bash test to verify whether apport was running yesterday. | 16:58 |
| lfaraone | ankur: let me find it in the log | 16:58 |
| * dipankar is back (gone 00:17:40) | 16:59 | |
| ankur | i am too looking for it :) | 16:59 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, I am doing it | 16:59 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, I just returned from dinner | 17:00 |
| lfaraone | ankur: "if LANG=C status apport | grep -q start/running; then echo Apport is Running; else echo Apport is Not Running; fi" | 17:01 |
| dipankar | dfarning, then it all comes down to 'guessing' but with some calculations :) | 17:02 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: fair enough. | 17:02 |
| ankur | lfaraone, okay the one you provided me yesterday was for dbus , i thought at that time you were talking to kandarp | 17:04 |
| lfaraone | ankur: s/dbus/apport/ :) that was just an example | 17:04 |
| ankur | lfaraone, testing it , one min | 17:04 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, I am unable to find the upstream package location for record activity. | 17:05 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: well, sources for sugar activities are usually on downloads.sugarlabs.org, right? | 17:05 |
| dfarning | dipankar, yes in the same way the music is guessing which note to play next:) So call it an art | 17:05 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: *download.sugarlabs.org | 17:05 |
| dipankar | dfarning, ohk | 17:06 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, on it | 17:06 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: if you do a google search for record, and limit the search to the download.sugarlabs.org site, you can find it :) | 17:06 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, ok that method. I generally forget about that | 17:06 |
| ankur | lfaraone, okay that test is for checking if the application is running or not? | 17:07 |
| ankur | or process? | 17:07 |
| lfaraone | ankur: it tells me whether a service is running or not. In this case, apport. | 17:08 |
| ankur | okay and it told me this time that it is not running but we could use the same thing in our .sugar/debug to check | 17:08 |
| ankur | that is what you are pointing to? | 17:08 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, :( I guess I have to look for some place else | 17:09 |
| dipankar | "http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4081/ | 17:09 |
| lfaraone | ankur: yeah, if it's running, then we want to enable logs. | 17:09 |
| lfaraone | but I'm not sure if that'll work in Debian. | 17:09 |
| ankur | okay so if it is running , we will enable logs.And in the process we would also llike to start appot process simultaneously with start of sugar-emulator? | 17:10 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, shall I leave watch file blank then? | 17:13 |
| ankur | lfaraone, thanks for reviewing etoys and irc :) | 17:13 |
| lfaraone | ankur: my pleasure. | 17:14 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: nope. | 17:14 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: what query have you been using to find record? | 17:14 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, this is the folder for record activity : http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4081/ | 17:14 |
| ankur | lfaraone, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0909/ApportPkgHooks is this link any good for me to read? | 17:14 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:download.sugarlabs.org+record tells me something different. | 17:15 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, oops, I used small r | 17:16 |
| dipankar | record | 17:16 |
| lfaraone | ankur: yes, but that's a different issue. we both want to have logs created (checking if apport is running), and to automatically include logs in bugs (apport hooks do that) | 17:16 |
| ankur | okay , so currently in the direction of adding this faeture , what direction should i proceed as of now? | 17:18 |
| lfaraone | ankur: first patch is to say "if apport is enabled, enable logging" | 17:20 |
| lfaraone | ankur: after some research, I determined that the proper if test should be "invoke-rc.d apport status" so that we can achieve maximum portability. | 17:20 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, done : http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-record-activity.git;a=commit;h=cad9b8a03cb2f5e08b2044fb544193659b459fce | 17:20 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: cool. | 17:20 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: that's not a valid URL. | 17:21 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, ? | 17:21 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: "http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Record/ failed: 404 Not Found<" | 17:21 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, oh. | 17:22 |
| dipankar | just a sec | 17:22 |
| ankur | lfaraone, shouldn't it be something like that we add a patch to run apport in starting sugar script as well and add apport in dependencies as well.then perform these checks .i am asking basics but still i wanted to make it sure that what i was thinking was right or someting i missed :) | 17:22 |
| lfaraone | ankur: we don't want to start apport if it's not already running... | 17:23 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, now it should be done | 17:23 |
| lfaraone | ankur: the goal is *if* apport is running, then we assume the user wants to report bugs, and therefore enable logging and expose "report a bug" somewhere. | 17:23 |
| lfaraone | ankur: if it's not running, then we don't enable logging. | 17:23 |
| ankur | lfaraone, okay :) , i got confused with the nature of feature , got it now. | 17:24 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-record-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/watch;h=9c108b5a3b8dca35835cfc4727bc1ce13607d6ca;hb=9f917b40e1f47f1e3e23be7f3e6b434ac2ecad76 | 17:26 |
| dipankar | dfarning, I have downloaded the tux paint | 17:26 |
| dipankar | dfarning, but there seems to be no option for fullscreen on it | 17:27 |
| ankur | so what i do now is check if apport is running or not , then enable debugging . Now i was running through apport manual but was not able to figure out whatt kind of changes would i have to make in sugar code.like i was confused that we apport automatically intercepts whenever there is a crash by seeing the nature of termination signal or is it something else? | 17:28 |
| dfarning | dipankar, it opens in a window? | 17:28 |
| dipankar | dfarning, yup | 17:28 |
| dfarning | dipankar, I guess I was wrong:( what about gcompris? | 17:28 |
| dipankar | dfarning, just a minute, I need to download it first | 17:29 |
| dfarning | dipankar, gcompris is _huge_ | 17:29 |
| dipankar | dfarning, 65 mb! 20 minutes | 17:30 |
| ankur | lfaraone, around? | 17:35 |
| lfaraone | ankur: yes. | 17:35 |
| ankur | lfaraone, so what i do now is check if apport is running or not , then enable debugging . Now i was running through apport manual but was not able to figure out whatt kind of changes would i have to make in sugar code.like i was confused that we apport automatically intercepts whenever there is a crash by seeing the nature of termination signal or is it something else? | 17:36 |
| lfaraone | ankur: right, if a sugar application segfaults or has a uncaught traceback, it may trigger apport | 17:37 |
| ankur | so shall i work on patch now? or there are other things to be added here ? | 17:37 |
| lfaraone | ankur: that's fine. | 17:38 |
| lfaraone | record looks good, uploaded. | 17:38 |
| ankur | lfaraone, if you are free , can you check what might be problem with paint activity? | 17:39 |
| ankur | i can forward you the mail from it's upstream author but i was not able to gain much help from that | 17:39 |
| lfaraone | ankur: sure. | 17:40 |
| ankur | lfaraone, sent you two mails , one was the initial question from my side and other was the reply | 17:42 |
| dipankar | dfarning, 5 minutes more | 17:43 |
| dipankar | * to download gcompris | 17:43 |
| ankur | between for slider puzzle review , you mentioned reimporting the pacakage . apart from just importing the package what other steps have to be followed after that? | 17:44 |
| ankur | lfaraone, as i was not clear on this issue as well | 17:44 |
| lfaraone | ankur: I don't recall, did I say anything else in the email? | 17:45 |
| dfarning | dipankar, thanks | 17:45 |
| * lfaraone has a terrible memory, which is why he likes to write things down. | 17:45 | |
| ankur | shall i forward you the mail again? | 17:46 |
| ankur | lfaraone, it was some days back and i dont believe you have terrible memory :) | 17:46 |
| dfarning | neeraj, did you see we have a couple of packages in ubuntu which are ready to be synced with maverick? | 17:47 |
| neeraj | dfarning, yes. | 17:48 |
| dipankar | dfarning, completed installing gcompris | 17:49 |
| dfarning | neeraj, can you request syncs when you get a chance? | 17:49 |
| dfarning | dipankar, cool. | 17:49 |
| dfarning | mukul, how are you? | 17:49 |
| ankur | lfaraone, manu sir told me you wanted to talk to me about something , is there any thing else as well? | 17:49 |
| neeraj | dfarning, doing that. | 17:49 |
| dipankar | dfarning, it is a nice application. I can Maximize too | 17:49 |
| lfaraone | ankur: did you try to apply the patch and see if it works? | 17:50 |
| mukul | dfarning, I am good. completed packaging of sugar-turtleart-activity | 17:50 |
| ankur | lfaraone, not yet , will do it | 17:50 |
| dfarning | dipankar, so it open as a window which can be maximized? | 17:50 |
| dipankar | dfarning, yes. By Maximize I mean not the full screen mode | 17:51 |
| dfarning | mukul, cool. are you waiting for a review from Luke? | 17:51 |
| mukul | dfarning, Yes | 17:51 |
| dfarning | dipankar, ok let's think about this a while before moving forward. do you have other stuff to work on in the meantime? | 17:52 |
| neeraj | dfarning, lfaraone which packages should I request for sync in ubuntu. There are currently 21 packages which are not in Maverick but we don't need all of them to be synced. http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/sugar.html | 17:54 |
| dipankar | dfarning, actually, I am also looking into the modem configuration bug | 17:55 |
| dfarning | mukul, nice. | 17:55 |
| dipankar | dfarning, ERROR: gsm connection was not set in Gconf | 17:55 |
| lfaraone | neeraj: use your judgement. what A) packages have we uploaded, B) packages we haven't uploaded ourselves but would still be useful. | 17:55 |
| dfarning | dipankar, translate sugar-*-activities and python-box2d | 17:57 |
| dipankar | dfarning, translate here meaning? :? | 17:58 |
| dipankar | * sorry for my ignorance | 17:58 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, I am having this problem in generating the copyright_newhints file | 17:59 |
| dfarning | dipankar, I justed listed the files luke described in A. | 17:59 |
| neeraj | dfarning, was that for me? | 17:59 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, dipankar@dipankar-laptop:~/sugar-act/sugar-log-activity$ DEB_MAINTAINER_MODE=1 fakeroot debian/rules pre-build | 17:59 |
| dipankar | dpkg-checkbuilddeps -B | 17:59 |
| dipankar | test -x debian/rules | 17:59 |
| dipankar | mkdir -p "." | 17:59 |
| dipankar | ERROR: copyright-check disabled - touch debian/copyright_hints to enable. | 17:59 |
| dipankar | make: *** [debian/stamp-copyright-check] Error 1 | 17:59 |
| dfarning | neeraj, dipankar I sorry got confused. | 18:00 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: okay. so the error is informing you that the check is disabled. have you tried following what it says to enable the check | 18:00 |
| dipankar | dfarning, no problem :) | 18:00 |
| ankur | lfaraone, you saw the mail i forwarded you ? slider puzzle one? | 18:00 |
| lfaraone | ankur: yes. | 18:00 |
| neeraj | dfarning, lfaraone ok. Last question. I have to skip browse-activity as afaik it's not working in ubuntu.. right? | 18:00 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, I am trying. just a minute | 18:01 |
| lfaraone | ankur: ah, the error you are getting is because you can't raise an exception as a string. | 18:01 |
| dfarning | neeraj, yes for now.... we are going to have to start working on surf instead. | 18:01 |
| lfaraone | ankur: which is a bug and needs to be fixed, but fixing that will still cause an exception to be raised (which is because something's missing) | 18:02 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, ohk. now its working. Any reason for the error? | 18:02 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: yes, you did not create the hints file. | 18:03 |
| ankur | lfaraone, this was version 25 and i used version 23 as well and it was giving same error | 18:03 |
| lfaraone | ankur: in this case, the issue is that there's a shared object file missing. you probably should try out his patch. | 18:03 |
| ankur | and this activity was not working on debian as well , so it was not a ubuntu specific bug | 18:03 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, ok | 18:03 |
| lfaraone | ankur: is there a reason you didn't try it out already? | 18:04 |
| ankur | i tried but it did not work , may be i missed someting . He gave a diff file for make file.If i pastte that file , can you check that i have done right changes. i will give you link to both previous and new file | 18:04 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: on trying to push to git.sl.o I am getting | 18:04 |
| kandarpk | Permission denied (publickey). | 18:04 |
| kandarpk | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly | 18:04 |
| lfaraone | ankur: you didn't apply the diff using "patch"? | 18:04 |
| ankur | no | 18:05 |
| lfaraone | ankur: that's how they're meant to be applied... | 18:05 |
| ankur | i am not fammiliar with the process | 18:05 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, is that for exelearning? | 18:05 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: yes | 18:05 |
| ankur | i will try that as patch :) | 18:05 |
| ankur | i meant i didn't know it. | 18:05 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, just a minute let me make sure you are a commiter. | 18:06 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: I am the owner. | 18:07 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, I have got this in my copyright_hints | 18:09 |
| dipankar | " | 18:09 |
| dipankar | Files: ./COPYING | 18:09 |
| dipankar | Copyright: 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. | 18:09 |
| dipankar | <year> <name of author> | 18:09 |
| dipankar | HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MAY MODIFY AND/OR | 18:09 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, is the ssh key of the computer you are working on uploaded to git.sl.org | 18:09 |
| dipankar | HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES | 18:09 |
| dipankar | disclaimer" for the program, if | 18:09 |
| dipankar | holder saying it may be distributed | 18:09 |
| dipankar | holder who places the Program under this License | 18:09 |
| dipankar | interest in the program | 18:09 |
| dipankar | law: | 18:09 |
| dipankar | the software, and | 18:09 |
| dipankar | year name of author | 18:09 |
| dipankar | License: GPL-2+ | 18:09 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: please please please do not paste. | 18:09 |
| dipankar | " | 18:09 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, shall I add COPYING too in copyright? | 18:09 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, sorry :( | 18:10 |
| lfaraone | dipankar: No. | 18:10 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: yes, just did that before pushing. | 18:10 |
| dipankar | lfaraone, ok | 18:10 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, what is the contents of .git/config ? | 18:11 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: [svn-remote "svn"] | 18:16 |
| kandarpk | url = https://exe.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/exe/trunk | 18:16 |
| kandarpk | I think this is what you are looking for. | 18:17 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: complete file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/476522/ | 18:17 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, you have to set the origin | 18:18 |
| dfarning | try | 18:18 |
| dfarning | git remote add origin gitorious@git.sugarlabs.org:exelearning/mainline.git | 18:18 |
| dfarning | # to push the master branch to the origin remote we added above: | 18:18 |
| dfarning | git push origin master | 18:18 |
| dfarning | # after that you can just do: | 18:18 |
| dfarning | git push | 18:18 |
| ankur | lfaraone, the patch will be for sugar toolkit , no? | 18:19 |
| lfaraone | ankur: which patch? | 18:19 |
| ankur | one min . i got confused .i was talking about the one for apport supprt | 18:20 |
| lfaraone | ankur: I'm not sure. | 18:21 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: I've created a debian branch as well | 18:21 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: will git push origin master push the entire code ? | 18:22 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, then I think you can 'git push origin debian' after you have added the origin. | 18:22 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, it will push the diff between your master branch and the upstream origin branch | 18:23 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: Ok. | 18:23 |
| dipankar | dfarning, I was going through mails, which jabber server did you use to register? | 18:24 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: Connection closed by 140.211.167.221 | 18:24 |
| kandarpk | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly | 18:24 |
| * lfaraone -> lunch | 18:25 | |
| dfarning | dipankar, the default one. the problem was the the jabber server was unresponsive the first time I tried | 18:25 |
| dfarning | bernie_afk, can you help kandarpk with a gitorious question^^? | 18:25 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, this looks like a ssh error. can you double check your pub key? | 18:26 |
| ankur | lfaraone, around? | 18:28 |
| dipankar | dfarning, ohk. It still hasn't worked out for me | 18:29 |
| dipankar | :( | 18:29 |
| dfarning | dipankar, you still get the grey rectangle? | 18:30 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: "$ git push origin master" is giving "Everything up-to-date" now. | 18:30 |
| kandarpk | I didn't change anything though | 18:30 |
| dipankar | dfarning, yeah and now "Registration failed" | 18:31 |
| dipankar | dfarning, I think there is some problem with my network manager | 18:31 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, it might have taken a while for the pubkey to be processed on gitorious that happens on a cron job. | 18:31 |
| kandarpk | hmmm | 18:31 |
| dfarning | dipankar, that is good news. At least you can reliably reproduce the bug. reproducing bugs is often the hardest part of debugging. | 18:32 |
| dipankar | dfarning, :) | 18:33 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: I dont see any option to register ?? | 18:35 |
| ankur | lfaraone, i will send you the mail when i come back . i will take leave now and get the patch reviewed .i will mail you my question so that when i get up in moring i can patch and submit it at LP :) | 18:35 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: in sugar-emulator | 18:35 |
| dipankar | guys what happened to wiki page of USR? | 18:36 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, if you have already registered you will not see that option. I think you can delete something in .sugar to make the option visiable again. | 18:36 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: ok. | 18:36 |
| ankur | dfarning, patches are applied for to change files already installed or to change the source code which is going to be installed ? | 18:37 |
| neeraj | lfaraone, I renamed write activity to sugar-write-activity-0.86 while packaging for debian as it was working in emulator version 0.86 and 0.84 | 18:37 |
| dfarning | dipankar, rename https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar | 18:38 |
| neeraj | s/0.84/0.88 | 18:38 |
| neeraj | lfaraone, now what's the difference between s-read-a-0.84 and s-read-a ? | 18:38 |
| dipankar | dfarning, ohk. It was USR, so I got confused | 18:38 |
| dfarning | ankur, a patch is applied to code which will be installed. | 18:39 |
| ankur | okay , thanks :) | 18:39 |
| dfarning | is it a little confusing in terms of packaging because the packaging process does the installing for you. | 18:40 |
| dfarning | ankur, the best way to think about a patch is as a self contained bundle which contains information about what lines to change and what to change those lines to. | 18:41 |
| ankur | dfarning, thanks , it will help me make the patch for apport as i was not sure which file to change , debug script or profile.py :) | 18:42 |
| ankur | no i know | 18:42 |
| ankur | *now i know | 18:42 |
| dfarning | ankur, +1 | 18:43 |
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| dfarning | kandarpk, do you remember who was working on write? | 18:48 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, and what it's status is? | 18:49 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: I saw someone mentioning it on the IRC. | 18:49 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: let me check. | 18:49 |
| kandarpk | neeraj: were you working on write ? | 18:50 |
| dfarning | neeraj, do you have an idea of how much longer it will take? | 18:51 |
| kandarpk | I'll be back in 2min, switching to ubuntu. | 18:51 |
| neeraj | dfarning, terminal is responding quite slowly to request command. But it will not take more than 20-30 min | 18:53 |
| dfarning | neeraj, no hurry just wondering:) | 18:54 |
| lfaraone | neeraj: wait, sugar-write-activity-0.86 works in 0.84 *and* 0.86? | 19:02 |
| neeraj | lfaraone, now. As far as I remember it was working in 0.86 and 0.88. | 19:04 |
| lfaraone | neeraj: so it does *not* work in 0.84, right? | 19:04 |
| neeraj | lfaraone, yes. I was failing to start in 0.84 | 19:07 |
| neeraj | 0.86 was minimum supported version. | 19:08 |
| lfaraone | neeraj: okay. so your question is about... s-read-a-0.84? is there such a thing? | 19:09 |
| lfaraone | neeraj: probably a holdover from when we shipped 0.82 in Debian. Nowadays there's nothing special there. | 19:10 |
| neeraj | http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/sugar.html, yes see the column at the bottom. | 19:11 |
| neeraj | lfaraone, ^^ | 19:11 |
| lfaraone | neeraj: we do have sugar-read-activity-0 | 19:14 |
| lfaraone | neeraj: we do have sugar-read-activity-0.86 in maverick, though | 19:14 |
| neeraj | lfaraone, acco to naming, sugar-read-activity-0.84 should work in sugar-emulator-version-??? | 19:17 |
| lfaraone | neeraj: sugar-read-activity-0.84+ | 19:18 |
| * dipankar is off for tonight. says a great day to everyone | 19:19 | |
| neeraj | lfaraone, dfarning unable to file sync request for s-poll-a, Will try it in morning. At present getting this error E: The package 'sugar-poll-activity' does not exist in the Debian primary archive in 'sid' | 19:25 |
| lfaraone | neeraj: it'll take some time. | 19:25 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Ok. | 19:27 |
| neeraj | *pushing s-*-activity-0.84. Will push irc,log and poll after sometime as they are not available at present | 19:38 |
| manusheel | neeraj: neat. | 19:47 |
| neeraj | dfarning, ping | 21:31 |
| dfarning | neeraj, pong | 21:31 |
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| neeraj | manusheel sir, dfarning after seeing on MDT, i filed an sync request for s-chat-a-0.84 | 22:26 |
| neeraj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-chat-activity/+bug/616462 | 22:26 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Neat. | 22:26 |
| manusheel | Checking it. | 22:27 |
| neeraj | But after seeing a comment, i had a discussion with dfarning on chat about this. | 22:27 |
| neeraj | dfarning, I tried to build the package after cloning from git and it failed to build | 22:28 |
| neeraj | The reason was unmet dependency. Unmet build dependencies: python-sugar-0.86 python-sugar-toolkit-0.86 | 22:28 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Ok. | 22:29 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Yes, it is an unmet dependency. | 22:29 |
| neeraj | Now, this issue can be easily solved by editing rules file, regenerating control file | 22:30 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Yes, you'll need to change the rules file, and then regenerate the control file so that all dependencies are taken care off. | 22:31 |
| neeraj | Now, as Jonas was maintaining this activity on git.debian | 22:31 |
| neeraj | and ankur was assigned this on http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar/tasks | 22:31 |
| neeraj | we left this activity without checking. | 22:32 |
| manusheel | ok. | 22:32 |
| manusheel | neeraj: I see. | 22:33 |
| manusheel | So, so this activity was not updated. | 22:33 |
| manusheel | Right? | 22:33 |
| manusheel | neeraj: It needed the update, which we now did. | 22:34 |
| neeraj | manusheel, may this is still working in debian. But as dfarning pointed out to me in Maverick we mostly have -.88 | 22:34 |
| manusheel | OK. | 22:35 |
| manusheel | neeraj: So, the update to 0.88 needs to be done, right? | 22:35 |
| neeraj | versions of different packages. So we need to update it | 22:35 |
| manusheel | It is 0.86 right now. | 22:35 |
| neeraj | manusheel, yes. | 22:35 |
| neeraj | its s-chat-0.84 | 22:35 |
| neeraj | s-chat-a-0.84* | 22:35 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Ok. Thanks for filing a sync request, and taking care of this part. I'll have a word with Ankur on why it was not updated. I hope we don't have an issue of this kind with other activities - e.g. read. | 22:36 |
| neeraj | manusheel, sir sorry, its s-chat-a-0.86 on debian | 22:38 |
| neeraj | When it was synced to lucid then it had the same dependency issue. | 22:39 |
| neeraj | Then for lucid ubuntu I had created a patch file so that it can be fixed. | 22:39 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Ok, I hope it got fixed in Lucid too. | 22:40 |
| manusheel | Let me check. | 22:40 |
| neeraj | manusheel sir, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-chat-activity-0.86/+bug/608753 | 22:42 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Excellent. | 22:42 |
| neeraj | dfarning, around? | 22:42 |
| manusheel | So, this was fixed released. | 22:42 |
| neeraj | yes, in maverick. | 22:43 |
| manusheel | neeraj: So, three activities have not been fixed released in Ubuntu from Debian unstable. | 22:43 |
| manusheel | Rest all of them have been fixed released. | 22:43 |
| neeraj | I made an mistake by requesting sync for s-chat-0.84 | 22:44 |
| neeraj | s/an/a | 22:44 |
| dfarning | neeraj, yes | 22:44 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Ok, it should have been 0.88, right? | 22:44 |
| neeraj | manusheel sir, it's sugar-chat-activity-0.86 | 22:45 |
| manusheel | neeraj: You can close down the sync request for 0.84. | 22:45 |
| neeraj | it works in 0.88 and 0.86 | 22:45 |
| neeraj | yes. thats what I was doing. | 22:45 |
| manusheel | right. | 22:45 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Yes, sorry s-chat-0.86 | 22:45 |
| manusheel | 0.86 and higher package versions. | 22:45 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Ok, I think we'll need to do the same thing for read too. | 22:46 |
| manusheel | we have requested for s-read-0.84. | 22:46 |
| manusheel | It should be 0.86. | 22:46 |
| manusheel | if we have a fixed released | 22:46 |
| manusheel | patch for s-read-0.86 | 22:46 |
| neeraj | yes | 22:47 |
| dfarning | neeraj, did you get if figured out? | 22:47 |
| neeraj | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-read-activity-0.86/ | 22:48 |
| neeraj | dfarning, From now on, I think its safe to assume that if the package name is 0.86 and above in debian, then it will work in 0.86 and above versions. | 22:49 |
| neeraj | We will not use 0.84 | 22:49 |
| dfarning | neeraj, ok so, no numbers mean is works on any version | 22:49 |
| neeraj | * will test package on maverick before requesting ny sync in future. | 22:50 |
| neeraj | dfarning, yes. | 22:50 |
| dfarning | and -number means it works on that version and later? | 22:50 |
| neeraj | yes, except 0.84 | 22:50 |
| manusheel | neeraj, dfarning: yes. | 22:50 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Kindly close down those requests for 0.84. We all learn from mistakes. Glad you figured this out today itself. | 22:51 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Matters would have become more chaotic and confusing later. | 22:52 |
| neeraj | *asking on ubuntu-motu the exact procedure for closing it down | 22:52 |
| manusheel | neeraj: ok. | 22:52 |
| manusheel | neeraj: I am at #ubuntu-motu too. | 22:52 |
| dfarning | neeraj, ok thanks for figuring it out. It still seems a little weird. Any time you try to tape on binary compatibility between versions things get weird. | 22:54 |
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| dfarning | manusheel, is there a way in LP to subscribe to all bugs in all packages to which sugarteam is subscribed? | 22:55 |
| manusheel | dfarning: As far as I know, subscribe has been designed like notify in typical bug tracker systems. | 22:59 |
| manusheel | I don't think we can subscribe to all bugs in all packages to which sugarteam is subscribed. | 22:59 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Let me check again. Haven't come across multiple subscription documentation. | 22:59 |
| manusheel | dfarning: It seems to be done per bug. | 23:00 |
| dfarning | manusheel, that seems odd we should be able to set things so all traffic about a bug is assign to a person, team, or mailing list. | 23:03 |
| manusheel | dfarning: That is actually an important requirement that needs to be there in all bug trackers :-) Will check if LP guys have hidden it somewhere in their advanced settings :-) | 23:06 |
| manusheel | dfarning: I believe the next set of bug trackers should be designed by people, who have experienced these issues. Not, as any other project. | 23:07 |
| dfarning | manusheel, sugar team is all ready identified as the maintainer for all of our package. I am not sure why that does not correlate to bug supervisor on a package level. | 23:09 |
| manusheel | dfarning: LP keeps a difference between the two entities. Subscription is more than notification, but not like advisory. They want the bug advisor to keep a track on whether all the bug requirements have been specified and clarified to the developer. | 23:12 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Bug advisor also has to give a green signal on getting the bug triaged. | 23:13 |
| dfarning | manusheel, i did not realize it was so complex... it must all be hidden in the advanced options at which I never look. | 23:15 |
| manusheel | dfarning: I'll be using the bug advisor feature for the requests filed by satellit_: LP's design for bug tracking is very different from our usual bug tracking systems. But, easy to master, once we start using it. | 23:15 |
| dfarning | manusheel ok, so I will stop worrying. | 23:16 |
| manusheel | dfarning: +! | 23:17 |
| manusheel | dfarning: It is pretty easy. Just new and different from other bug trackers. The only unfortunate part is that for important features like filters, they are hiding them in advanced settings. | 23:18 |
| manusheel | dfarning: But, it has started to become fairly simple now. | 23:18 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Getting used to canonical style of doing things :-) | 23:19 |
| neeraj | manusheel sir, dfarning good night :) | 23:23 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Good night. | 23:24 |
| manusheel | Take rest. | 23:24 |
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