[01:00] <danyR> hi folks. I've deleted my UbuntuOne entry from Startup apps, can anyone point me to a the right command to add it back?
[01:01] <duanedesign> hello danyR
[01:02] <duanedesign> /bin/sh -c '[ -d "$HOME/Ubuntu One" ] && ubuntuone-launch'
[01:02] <duanedesign> danyR: ^^ that is Lucid
[01:02] <duanedesign> Karmic(ubuntuone-client1.0.3) is a bit different.
[01:02] <danyR> duanedesign: thanks ;-) I'm in Lucid
[01:04] <danyR> duanedesign: as I'm around, I've been wondering how UbuntuOne status is going to be handled in Maverick? Because right now I can't have a concrete idea of U1 status without u1sdtool
[01:12] <duanedesign> danyR: i have not looked at it in a few weeks
[01:12] <duanedesign> danyR: there is a tool called Magicicada
[01:13] <duanedesign> that is a GUI for syncdaemon. You could call it a  a GUI for the u1sdtool commands.
[01:13] <duanedesign> danyR: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chicharreros/ppa; sudo apt-get  install magicicada
[01:13] <duanedesign> then you launch it under Applications > Accessories
[01:14] <danyR> let me test it :) thanks for ppa duanedesign
[01:15] <danyR> it's nice, but I think I'm waiting for more official tools by the time Maverick comes out. thanks anyway
[03:15] <mkarnicki> beuno: CardinalFang: 0.4.3b of AndroidU1 is ready, details/download here http://goo.gl/n82e . enjoy. I'll be leaving in fea minutes, it's after 4AM ;d
[03:15] <mkarnicki> verterok: oh, you're here too. you might want to get more stable 0.4.3b ^
[03:16] <mkarnicki> I hope you guys will like it. Theres still so much to do, but at least it got quite stable. I hope you won't crash it ;)
[03:19] <mkarnicki> goodnight all :) /me is away
[04:13] <beuno> mkarnicki, I've been using the previous release a lot
[04:13] <beuno> uploading pictures from my phone
[04:30] <duanedesign> anyone into folding here?
[04:30] <duanedesign> oops, wrong channel :)
[04:48] <Chipaca> duanedesign: I'm very close to calling it a wrap. That's probably all the folding I've got for now.
[04:48] <duanedesign> :)
[04:49] <duanedesign> Chipaca: yeah getting late here....
[04:49] <Chipaca> working on the nautilus extension some more
[04:49] <Chipaca> having to fight a huge itch to rewrite the whole thing
[04:51] <duanedesign> haha
[04:52] <duanedesign> i knkow that feeling
[04:53] <duanedesign> Chipaca: i guess the nautilus extension kinda took a backseat in Lucid and is coming back in maverick
[04:53] <Chipaca> gaaar! HAVE_INTROSPECTION does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
[04:53] <ajmitch> what do you hate about the nautilus extension?
[04:55] <Chipaca> ajmitch: well... where do I start?
[04:55] <Chipaca> ajmitch: what is the nautiilus extension for you?
[04:55] <ajmitch> a pain :)
[04:55] <Chipaca> heh
[04:55] <duanedesign> ahh it is in C
[04:56] <Chipaca> ajmitch: the code needs a lot of love, and I haven't been able to give it as much time as it deserves
[04:56] <ajmitch> though I'm trying to use it on debian at the moment, where the emblems say that some folders aren't synced
[04:56] <Chipaca> ajmitch: when you see me writing code, it's because everybody else on the team is buried up to their noses in other more urgent stuff
[04:56] <ajmitch> I see :)
[04:56] <Chipaca> ajmitch: the emblems are rather broken
[04:56]  * duanedesign nods
[04:57] <ajmitch> new obstacle for getting U1 code into debian - discussion about trademarks
[04:57] <Chipaca> where?
[04:57] <ajmitch> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2010/08/threads.html has the thread
[04:57] <ajmitch> I was going to ping trademarks@u.c about it
[04:58] <duanedesign> ajmitch: would that be similar to the 'Ubuntu' Software center debate
[04:58] <ajmitch> duanedesign: yes, though that one was quite valid for renaming, since it was mostly branding
[04:58] <ajmitch> in this case it's the name of a remote service
[04:58] <duanedesign> ahhh
[04:59] <ajmitch> Chipaca: I spotted it because they CCed http://bugs.debian.org/559752
[05:00] <ajmitch> a response from upstream would be appreciated :)
[05:01] <Chipaca> I'll forward it up - I try to meddle as little as possible in things legal
[05:01] <ajmitch> thanks
[05:01] <ajmitch> it's generally a good idea to stay away from legal wranglings
[05:01] <Chipaca> when I do, it's with a yob and an Arr!
[05:03] <duanedesign> :D
[05:04] <ajmitch> ok, I've said that I've passed the buck on that one :)
[05:05]  * duanedesign is retiring. Going to try and get up at a decent hour and get some bugs triaged tommorrow.
[05:05] <Chipaca> ajmitch: you mentioned subscribing to bugs from configglue a while back. How do I do that?
[05:06] <ajmitch> http://packages.qa.debian.org/python-configglue
[05:06] <ajmitch> bottom-left, there's a subscribe box
[05:06] <ajmitch> it should notify you of all uploads & bugs
[05:07] <Chipaca> okie
[05:07] <Chipaca> ajmitch: we cut configglue 0.9 today
[05:07] <Chipaca> ajmitch: the docs are still out of date, but that'll get fixed soon
[05:07] <ajmitch> how incompatible is it? :)
[05:07] <ajmitch> I need to be subscribing to the appropriate branches on LP
[05:07] <Chipaca> ajmitch: the import changes, but other than that, very much compatible
[05:08] <Chipaca> all the old tests carry on being run, with some minor cosmetic changes
[05:08] <ajmitch> OK, will 0.9 head into maverick?
[05:08] <Chipaca> yes
[05:08] <Chipaca> as soon as some a package of ubuntuone-client that works with it and the older version is packaged, it'll head on in
[05:09] <ajmitch> I can update it there if needed, though I imagine one of your team will be doing it
[05:09] <Chipaca> that is, by 0z of thursday at the latest :)
[05:09] <ajmitch> I'm sure you can bribe someone for a freeze exception
[05:09] <Chipaca> yes, rick is still on it
[05:09] <Chipaca> I ran out of bribes last cycle
[05:09] <ajmitch> heh
[05:10]  * ajmitch should dive into some of the U1 code for fun & profit
[08:30] <mandel> morning!
[08:34] <mandel> vds, ping
[08:40] <vds> mandel pong
[08:41] <mandel> vds, morning, is you internet fixed?
[08:43] <vds> mandel: yes
[08:44] <mandel> vds, great, so in theory skype works, right?
[08:44] <vds> mandel: skype in 15 mins?
[08:44] <mandel> vds, sure, ping me whenever you want
[08:45] <vds> ok
[09:14] <vds> mandel: skype?
[09:14] <mandel> vds, sure :D
[09:15] <mandel> vds, lets hope it works ;)
[10:01] <mkarnicki> beuno: I'm happy to hear you've been using it. I might make your life even easier implementing the 'Share button' soon :)
[11:35] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:08] <balachmar> Hi, I have a remark on the Ubuntu One Music Store. I explained my girlfriend that downloading from the ubuntu one music store, but then she couldn't find what she was looking for. (We live in the Netherlands) So knowing that the music comes from 7digital, I went there. And she could find all the music she wanted. The problem now is, that the ubuntu one music store works great and is easy to use. The 7digital stuff isn't. (Download z
[12:08] <balachmar> ip, extract to music folder, update library, compared to click and buy) Why is there an extra restriction on what I am able to buy from the U1MS compared to the 7digital store?
[12:11] <duanedesign> hello balachmar
[12:14] <duanedesign> balachmar: the music selection is determined by region
[12:15] <duanedesign> the ubuntu one music store and 7digital, while partners, are not the same thing
[12:17] <balachmar> duanedesign: Yeah, I know, but still I hope that I would soon be able to access their entire catalog through the Ubuntu One Music Store. (Because I like it a lot better) Think of this not as a complaint, but as a compliment. Just hope to see the catalog of the ubuntu one music store growing.
[12:18] <sylarpowa> hi all
[12:18] <balachmar> You guys just made it so easy, that the 7digital way seems really complicated :)
[12:19] <sylarpowa> I am having an issue using ubuntu-one, I cannot sync it in any way..
[12:20] <duanedesign> balachmar: they are going to reevaluate the EU and world store after 10.04 to see  decide how to expand the  number of country-specific regional stores
[12:20] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: hello
[12:21] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[12:21] <sylarpowa> duanedesign: 10.04, I cannot add my computer
[12:22] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: uh oh :\ Are you having trouble finding the 'Add thhis Computer' button?
[12:22] <sylarpowa> duanedesign: yes, and the workaround on the wiki raises an error...
[12:23] <sylarpowa> or nothing happends..
[12:24] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: system > Preferences > Preferred Applications can you check that Firefox is your default browser?
[12:24] <sylarpowa> it isn't
[12:24] <sylarpowa> duanedesign: the default one is chrome
[12:24] <duanedesign> ok i think it should still work with Chrome. Though I have not tried it. let me see
[12:25] <sylarpowa> changing it to firefox doesn't change the issue.. no web page is opened at all
[12:29] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: can you open Applications > Accesories > Password and Encryption  Check and see if there is an Ubuntu One token?
[12:29] <sylarpowa> yes, there is one token here
[12:30] <duanedesign> ok can you right-click and delete it
[12:30] <sylarpowa> duanedesign: done
[12:30] <sylarpowa> wow it works thx!
[12:31] <sylarpowa> I have just added my computer
[12:31] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: ya!
[12:31] <sylarpowa> duanedesign: it is really slow :|
[12:36] <sylarpowa> I am having an issues with the files now... the never get processed
[12:36] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: ok
[12:37] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: can you open a terminal and run the command: u1sdtool -s
[12:37] <sylarpowa> sylar@sylar-laptop:~$ u1sdtool -s State: QUEUE_MANAGER     connection: With User With Network     description: processing queues     is_connected: True     is_error: False     is_online: True     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[12:38] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: ok looks ok so far
[12:39] <sylarpowa> I have a "!" on the icon of the file
[12:39] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: can you run the command:  u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l
[12:39] <duanedesign> should give you a number
[12:39] <sylarpowa> 2552
[12:40] <duanedesign> ok it has 2,552 metadata items to process. It processes the metadata items first then the Content Queue
[12:41] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: you can also check the content queue with: u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[12:41] <sylarpowa> :| and those 2552 metadata... where they come from?
[12:41] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: the files you are syncing
[12:41] <sylarpowa> I have only 1 file syncing
[12:41] <sylarpowa> :|
[12:42] <duanedesign> can you run: u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[12:42] <duanedesign> that will tell you how many items it is trying to sync
[12:44] <sylarpowa> 1
[12:44] <sylarpowa> so 2552 metadata and 1 file, isn't there anything strange?
[12:45] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: you can run the command: u1sdtool --waiting-metadata
[12:45] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: without the '| wc -l' to get details
[12:45] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: if you want to pastebin that
[12:46] <duanedesign> at http://pastebin.ca/
[12:46] <duanedesign> i can look at it and maybe help figure out what it is doing
[12:49] <sylarpowa> duanedesign: http://pastebin.ca/1915058
[12:50] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: it looks like it is doing a bunch of removing files. Did you add some files then remove them from your Ubuntu One folder, or other User Designated Folder?
[12:51] <sylarpowa> duanedesign: maybe it is something of longs time ago
[12:52] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: yeah could be. I think the unlinks go pretty fast
[12:52] <duanedesign> sylarpowa: what is the number now for: u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l
[13:10] <sylarpowa__> is there any way to empty the metadata changes list?
[14:01] <mkarnicki> out of curiosity, how strict do developers hold onto python code formatting guidelines as far as number of columns (max row lenth) is concerned?
[14:02] <mkarnicki> can you have a line longer by 4 signs, or is it tested and will complain that formatting is wrong?
[14:02] <mkarnicki> *characters
[14:02] <mkarnicki> I'm talking about general Ubuntu development on launchpad, and deployment (tarmac, etc etc)
[14:10] <beuno> mkarnicki, 80 columns is a strict rule
[14:10] <beuno> a single character over that will make pylint complain and nessita cry
[14:10] <mkarnicki> beuno: thanks :) (so it's a no-go if 1 line is 81 characters, right?)
[14:11] <beuno> mkarnicki, right
[14:11] <mkarnicki> hahaha roger
[14:11] <mkarnicki> thanks! :)
[14:11] <nessita> beuno: 79 characters plus the end of line
[14:11] <nessita> mkarnicki: ^
[14:12] <mkarnicki> nessita: :D
[14:12] <nessita> really :-)
[14:12] <mkarnicki> nessita: I believe you :D thank you, very precise answer
[14:12] <nessita> jeje
[14:12] <nessita> mkarnicki: I recommend you run the pep8 tool over your sources
[14:13] <mkarnicki> nessita: can I run it over Java source.. ? isn't it Python-excluse?
[14:13] <mkarnicki> *exclusive
[14:13] <nessita> mkarnicki: ah, yes, I thought you were doing python code as well
[14:14] <mkarnicki> nessita: I wish :) (I should finally learn python!), Android is Java exclusive (on high level)
[14:17] <nessita> mkarnicki: you'll get there eventually, Python is a only-way road
[14:17] <mkarnicki> nessita: :D
[14:19] <mkarnicki> nessita: I would now hold tightly to my algorithmic nature and scientific believes, and ripost with 'C++ is a only-way!' ;D (But seriously, I do want to learn python. It looks really, really good)
[14:20] <mkarnicki> verterok: if I have a method void foo(int bar); and I document that method with javadoc, how should I refer to 'bar' ? just bar or {@bar} or something else fancy?
[14:29] <dobey> eh
[14:29] <dobey> python really isn't that great :)
[14:31] <verterok> mkarnicki: I think it depends on how fancy you want your javadocs :)
[14:31] <mkarnicki> verterok: I just wanted to refer to method argument/parameter
[14:31] <mkarnicki> in the /** block */ just over the method
[14:32] <verterok> mkarnicki: @param ?
[14:32] <mkarnicki> verterok: umm... something like ".. and it will do this and that with _____ "
[14:33] <mkarnicki> where _____ is the name of the parameter. should I write ".. and it will do this and that with @param bar" ?
[14:33] <mkarnicki> I guess so, yes. Thanks verterok
[14:48] <dakira> A question about contacts.. I've got all my contacts in Ubuntu One, but not in Evolution. Since contact-sync to Desktop is not going to be available for some time, how about this: Could I use syncevolution with the server and user/pass combination I use in the funambol iphone app, to sync my contacts to evolution?
[14:49] <dakira> honk
[14:49] <dakira> ;-)
[14:52] <rye> dakira, i believe the answer is yes, though my previous attempts to use syncevolution were not that successful. mobile sync uses syncml so it should work
[14:55] <dakira> rye: okay.. I think the only thing you shouldn't try is syncing to the couchdb because that is not supported by syncevolution.
[14:57] <dakira> rye: the problem I have is this.. since syncevolution calls the local contact groups "sources" (and since these are empty), I fear a sync would empty my contacts in Ubuntu One.
[15:16] <dakira> question: The syncml-server for ubuntuone is http://syncml.one.ubuntu.com. What is the URI for contacts?
[15:18] <rye> dakira, card
[15:18]  * rye is installing syncevolution to test that too
[15:30] <dakira> rye: ah.. thanks.. I'm trying to do this with sync-ui (a GUI for syncevolution).. but that always tells me my password might be wrong. Is it possible I have to wait a while after I reset my pw?
[15:31] <rye> dakira, hm, it tells me that too, let me check with mobile client
[15:32] <rye> dakira, no, login/pass is correct
[15:53] <dakira> rye: strange
[15:56] <dakira> rye: would have been a nice workaround
[15:57] <rye> dakira, it should be, syncing the logs to see whether i can find the reason
[16:12] <dakira> rye: the only errors I can find in the log, state pretty much the same.. authorization failed..
[16:39] <rye> dakira, it looks like syncevolution is not sending the session info
[16:40] <rye> but it is, according to tcpdump
[16:42] <dakira> rye: syncml.one.ubuntu.com is pretty much the standard funambol server, right?
[16:42] <rye> dakira, yes it is
[16:42] <rye> dakira, database backend is different though
[16:43] <rye> dakira, as the information is stored in couchdb
[16:44] <dakira> rye: that should make no difference, though, when talking to the server (and authenticating)
[16:45] <rye> dakira, yes, the server specifically says Requested sessionId: null; User not authenticated; uthentication failed for device syncevolution-468560d6-fa3b-4621-84a6-5847091d3d2d. Make sure that the client used correct username and password and that there is a principal associating the user  to the device.
[17:35] <dakira> rye: looking through the log, the authentication problem only seems to appear when syncevolution asks for a status.. I mean there seem to be messages exchanged where the authentication works.
[22:38] <tsoiland> how exactly do I configure ubuntuone to use my account? There are barely any settings in the app