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CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162440 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Another case of libapt-pkg giving us nice, null const char pointers :/ BUG:247439 FIXED-IN:1.0.101:27
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Quintasanhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62659309:39
Quintasan:D09:39
ubottuGnome bug 626593 in User Guide "Gnome ate my boyfriend! Help!" [Critical,Resolved: invalid]09:39
valorieImportance:Normal critical09:42
valorielol09:42
yofelQuintasan: hey, at least it was filed as a new bug, not like here :P https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57952209:57
ubottuMozilla bug 579522 in JavaScript Engine "Buy cots for the JS interns" [Normal,Verified: fixed]09:57
yofel(scroll to the bottom)09:57
valoriethat's a classic09:57
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glatzorhello JontheEchidna 10:58
glatzorJontheEchidna, I am currently adding downgrading and installing specific versions to aptdaemon10:58
QuintasanJontheEchidna: where can I get new strings for Muon and QApt?11:05
QuintasanJontheEchidna: also, why do Authtentication windows pop out behind Muon?11:18
ulyssesSometimes it appears in the right lace before Muon, sometimes it doesn't appear even, I have to close Muon and start again11:19
* yofel thought the focus stealing prevention was at fault for that11:21
Quintasanmy my11:26
QuintasanQtEmu is sure neat11:26
sheytanHey guys11:34
sheytanwhat do you think about a files and settings transfer app for Kubuntu?11:35
sheytanwhen you first run a new installation an assistant could help users to import KDE settings from other machine and files, too11:35
ulyssesmaybe from Ubuntu One?11:38
Riddellubiquity on gnome has migration assistant from windows, nobody has ported that to KDE yet11:39
sheytanUbuntu one would required network connection11:43
sheytanbut, it could ask you to configure network before starting to download stuff11:43
sheytanRiddell From windows. Does it work with other ubuntu installs?11:44
sheytanwhat about transfering settings from other machines using wifi or eth11:45
glatzorJontheEchidna, the version support is now in trunk. Basically you just have to add a = and the version number to package name to select a specific version11:45
glatzorJontheEchidna, e.g. "xterm=256-1". Furthermore there is now dowgrade argument in CommitPackages11:46
jussiis muon for maverick ready yet?11:51
Riddellooh another bit of website praise, this one from aseigo http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4292#comments12:04
RiddellJontheEchidna: how come we stopped installing virtuoso-t to /usr/lib ?12:32
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Debian is maintaining it now, and therefore we don't have to be quite so hyperactive about such things, was my reasoning.12:33
davidbarthRiddell: hi Jonathan, i've tried the new uploiad but it seems the patch still di not apply or something, as i can still reproduce the issue; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-ubuntu/+bug/61642212:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 616422 in konversation (Ubuntu) "[regression] konversation not registered in the gnome msging menu" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:33
Riddelldavidbarth: 1.3.1-1ubuntu3 should appear soon to really fix it12:34
Riddellseems my quilt foo wasn't quite right12:34
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/templates/messages/playground-sysadmin/muon.pot?view=log12:34
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: Also, authentication window comes behind because its a bug in PolicyKit-KDE-1. Fixed in trunk by yours truly, pending upstream to do another release12:35
RiddellJontheEchidna: ok, the missing patch in soprano broke the backport, added back now in ninjas12:36
RiddellJontheEchidna: I guess we should run that virtuoso change by the security people12:36
JontheEchidnabbiab, gotta catch my ride12:38
davidbarthRiddell: ah ok, thanks!12:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: idk... i just kept updating and it worked 0_o13:13
CIA-99jmthomas * 1162697 * trunk/ (kdereview/libqapt/ playground/libs/libqapt/) Move libqapt to kdereview CCMAIL:kde-i18n-doc@kde.org13:43
CIA-99jmthomas * 1162699 * trunk/ (kdereview/muon/ playground/sysadmin/muon/) Move Muon to kdereview CCMAIL:kde-i18n-doc@kde.org13:44
shadeslayeroh.. oh ... oh !!!!!13:44
shadeslayerhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/ \o/13:45
* shadeslayer applies immediately 13:45
shadeslayerQuintasan: ^^13:46
debfxJontheEchidna: why does qapt-batch call the worker directly?13:58
JontheEchidnadebfx: Using a QApt::Backend would incur a ~14 MiB consumption of memory, which we really don't need since we're just installing things anyways13:59
debfxyeah, sounds reasonable :)14:04
JontheEchidnaluckily Qt's DBus magic makes working with a DBus API as easy as using a C++ library :)14:07
dantti_workhmm speaking of downgrades I can make aptcc and kpk be able to downgrade packages :)14:18
ScottKRiddell: dovecot-metadata-plugin in New is for Kolab, so I'd appreciate it if you could give it a push.14:19
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162714 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/package.h Fix apidox typo14:20
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Could you take a look at libdebconf-kde in new queue once you find the time please? The debian/copyright should be all square now :)14:21
RiddellJontheEchidna: accepted14:28
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Thanks much14:28
RiddellJontheEchidna: re blog, you shouldn't need to write a parser for app-install-data, it's just KDE desktop files, KDE can parse them fine and give you the tree14:28
Riddelladept did that14:28
JontheEchidnanice14:28
JontheEchidnahrm, I wanted to talk to glatzor too...14:29
JontheEchidnain regards to aptdaemon14:30
RiddellScottK: accepted14:30
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.14:33
JontheEchidnaTodo is looking nice and green14:39
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: the faster login still needs doing :(14:40
JontheEchidnaToday is feature freeze iirc, so printer tools and samba might not make it :(14:40
RiddellI think dantti is doing kpackagekit rather than printer tools14:42
Riddellsamba is half done but still needs the UI14:42
dantti_workRiddell: btw, do it need to be finished today of it just need to be in that doc?14:42
Riddelldantti_work: after today it'll need a feature freeze exception14:45
Riddellwhich is do-able but a little bit of hassle14:45
ScottKRiddell: We need to sync the kolab patches from Debian.  Let me get you a list.14:45
RiddellScottK: in this format please http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/tmp/sponsoring-list14:46
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162725 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/package.cpp Optimize isSupported by calling component() only once, and not calling it at all if the origin is not Ubuntu14:53
sheytansomething to show you guys http://a.imageshack.us/img213/6924/indexvo.jpg :)14:56
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162726 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/package.cpp Remove an instance of unnecessary QString initialization during assignment14:56
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162727 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/package.cpp USe the "!" operator for compactness. (Clarity is also maintained)14:57
ScottKRiddell: Only turned out to be two packages.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/476952/15:02
RiddellScottK: can you use a pastebin that doesn't require login to download?15:03
ScottKRiddell: Someone at Canoncial should complain about that.15:03
ScottKJust a moment.15:03
txwikingerrofl15:04
RiddellScottK: I did, sysadmins say it's necessary to stop spam15:04
ScottKsync 61681515:04
ScottKsync 61682015:04
ScottKRiddell: ^^15:04
Riddellthe IRC pastebin :)15:04
ScottKHow about that.15:04
Riddellthat'll do15:04
txwikingersince when does downloading a file allows you to spam a website?15:05
Riddellno idea15:05
ScottKRiddell: Oddly enough every other pastebin in the world manages without it.15:05
* txwikinger thinks someone just wanted to give a runaround15:05
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162732 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/package.cpp Style fixes15:06
Riddellanyway, synced15:08
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.15:09
ScottKBTW, I packaged that dovecot plugin from scratch yesterday.  I suspect we'll have to bug fix it into existence for a while.15:10
ScottKryanakca: When you're around, I'd like to discuss Kolab testing.15:10
Riddellyou're on a bit of a Kolab roll15:11
ScottKYeah.  Server stuff is coming along.  Trying to squeeze it in before FF.15:12
ScottKAnyone package the client stuff?15:12
ScottKhttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/519/ would be nice.15:13
ScottKshadeslayer: If you can work with mozillateam to get ^^ packaged, that would be a huge help (I'd approve an FFe for this if it's done quick).15:14
shadeslayerScottK: ok sure :D15:24
ScottKshadeslayer: Cool.15:25
shadeslayeri can do it by tommorow or tonight if i can manage it15:25
ScottKGreat.15:25
ScottKRiddell: Is there some ninja we can turn loose on the kdepim client for kolab?15:25
shadeslayerkdepim client for kolab?15:26
ScottKYes, a special modified version of kdepim from KDE3 specifically for Kolab.15:27
Riddellthe 3.5 packages he's talking about15:27
shadeslayeroh ok15:27
* shadeslayer trots off to find mozilla people15:27
Riddellof course we also want the 4.5 packages you said you'd do15:27
Riddellgosh, three versions of kdepim, that'll be fun15:28
ScottKMaybe one of them will work.15:28
shadeslayerRiddell: kdepim already in ninja ppa, where they shouldnt be :P15:28
shadeslayerfor maverick that is15:28
shadeslayerScottK: know any mozilla channels?15:34
shadeslayer#mozilla is invite only15:34
ScottKshadeslayer: #ubuntu-mozillateam15:34
Riddellchriscoulson would be the guy to start with15:34
ScottKAnd as Riddell says ...15:34
shadeslayerthanks :)15:36
shadeslayerRiddell: i have no fix for the kopete package since it cant detect libortp 15:37
Riddellshadeslayer: do you have a patch of the changes you would make it if could?15:37
shadeslayeryep one sec15:38
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/LQnq8qVH15:39
shadeslayeri just did a debdiff...15:41
Riddelllet me try it in a pbuilder15:41
shadeslayersure15:41
shadeslayerScottK: do we have any plugins in the repo?15:42
ScottKshadeslayer: Sure.  I don't use Thunderbird, so no idea what.15:42
shadeslayer!info mozilla-opensc maverick15:42
ubottumozilla-opensc (source: opensc): Mozilla plugin for authentication using OpenSC. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.11.13-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 186 kB, installed size 308 kB15:42
shadeslayerseems like a good start ...;15:43
shadeslayerScottK: can you join #ubuntu-mozillateam for some time?15:53
ScottKSure.15:54
shadeslayerwhuts happening to ninja ppa? :P16:06
shadeslayerits empty :D16:06
shadeslayerwell.. almost16:07
jussiJontheEchidna: so, I was chasing some packages for muon/maverick. are you working on those or?16:10
JontheEchidnajussi: should be available by the end of the day in maverick proper16:11
jussiJontheEchidna: ahh, nice.16:11
jussithank you16:11
JontheEchidnaactually, somebody will have to go through binary new queue and accept libdebconf-kde first...16:11
jussialso, does anyone know when the fix for x is due?16:11
JontheEchidnaand then muon once it builds....16:11
JontheEchidnasoon, though16:12
* jussi would like to have desktop effects and other goodness again16:13
RiddellJontheEchidna: james_w is doing New if you ask nicely16:14
JontheEchidnaRiddell: should I worry about ports before asking?16:15
RiddellJontheEchidna: no16:15
shadeslayerRiddell: backported kdepim to lucid, waiting for lp to finish copying the packages16:20
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ScottKPencils down.16:21
ScottKGo fix bugs.16:21
shadeslayeroh noes16:21
Riddellwhere can I find the pbuilder build log during the build?16:21
shadeslayerRiddell: i guess nothing can be done for kdenetwork then :(16:22
shadeslayerin ..16:22
shadeslayer( the parent dir )16:22
ScottKRiddell: /var/cache/pbuilder/build16:22
shadeslayerjussi: hehe... X break there too? :P16:22
ScottKRiddell: Nevermind.  Just noticed you said log.16:22
shadeslayeri have a fix for nvidia cards :D16:22
jussishadeslayer: yep, been borked for a week or 2 now16:22
shadeslayerjussi: nvidia card?16:23
jussishadeslayer: which is?16:23
* ScottK pats his Intel graphics.16:23
jussiyup16:23
Riddellshadeslayer: no it's not16:23
shadeslayerdisable the ABI in xorg16:23
shadeslayer:o16:23
ScottKshadeslayer: kdenetwork might merit an FFe.16:23
shadeslayerRiddell: thats a first 0_o16:23
shadeslayerjussi: like this : http://pastebin.com/pzWyg9W116:23
shadeslayeryoull need new drivers from x-updates as well16:24
macoi have a question about svn16:24
macoim working on modifying something in kdesvn, but its not ready for merging yet16:24
macohow can i still pull down upstream changes without losing my changes?16:24
Riddellsvn update should merge them in16:25
macoi know if i commit they get pushed, so i dont want to commit yet...16:25
shadeslayerRiddell: so if you built something in foo/foo1 with pdebuild , the log should be in foo/ ... nothing there?16:26
Riddellstart a bzr branch :)16:26
shadeslayerhehe.. or git :P16:26
Riddellshadeslayer: never heard of pdebuild, I just use pbuilder16:26
shadeslayerpdebuild is like debuild in a clean pbuilder chroot16:26
shadeslayerjust cd foo-1/ ; pdebuild 16:27
macopbuilder just does binary package though16:27
ScottKmaco: No.  It rebuilds the source package too.16:27
ScottK(by default)16:28
macoScottK: why doesnt it prompt for password until after it does the source package then?16:28
ScottKDoesn't need root for that.16:28
macoroot is for the chrooting part isnt it?16:28
macoi thought it basically just did:  debuild -S  && pbuilder build ...16:29
macoif you called pdebuild16:29
ScottKNo idea about pdebuild16:29
shadeslayersee man pdebuild .. thats all :D16:30
ScottKGenerally pbuilder will rebuild the source package inside the chroot.16:30
shadeslayerok kdepim all uploaded to experimental please test16:30
jussishadeslayer: sorry, fix doesnt help here :(16:32
ryanakcaScottK: Pong16:35
ScottKryanakca: Can you set up a Maverick Kolab server test system (not today, but soonish)?16:36
ScottKryanakca: If you use dovecot, dovecot doesn't need any special patches, just an additional plugin.16:37
ryanakcaScottK: Sure. I'll try to find a box at home to do it on. Does it need to be world accessible?16:38
ryanakcaScottK: Mail won't work (ISP blocks port 25)16:38
ScottKryanakca: Nope.  I just need someone to test/document setup in Maverick.16:38
ScottKYou can mail to it locally on your network for testing though.16:39
ryanakcaYep16:39
ScottKThat should be sufficient.16:39
ryanakcaOK, I've written it down in my TODO list, it's supposed to rain all weekend, I'll get it done then. How should I document it for you? Pile of screenshots + step by step guide?16:44
shadeslayerjussi: oh did you add the ppa?16:49
shadeslayerthe one with the new drivers16:49
ScottKryanakca: That's a good start.  Then talk to sommer on #ubuntu-server about getting it in the server guide.16:49
ScottKryanakca: We'll want to set it up with dovecot.  That's not standard for kolab, so it may take some doing.16:49
shadeslayerlul @ bug 61688417:01
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/616884)17:01
jussishadeslayer: no... could you tell me which one?17:07
shadeslayerone sec17:08
shadeslayerjussi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates17:08
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162769 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Signal that we are exiting even if we are exiting in error (since all download errors are queued), otherwise we will never return to the main view and our error queue will never be shown. BUG:247534 FIXED-IN:1.0.117:08
ryanakcaScottK: Will do.17:26
shadeslayerFYI : https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/kdelibs/kde4 working again, thanks to jelmer :)17:26
shadeslayererrrr17:33
shadeslayercan i add a dep on the beta backports ppa to the experimental ppa?17:33
shadeslayerkdepim wont build without it17:36
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^17:51
ScottKshadeslayer: No17:57
ScottKActually I read that backwards.17:57
shadeslayerso.. should i ?17:57
shadeslayerbecause it wont build without new KDE17:58
ScottKShould be fine I'd think.17:58
shadeslayerScottK: any idea why https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta shows one package?18:09
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162786 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/backend.cpp (log message trimmed)18:11
CIA-99Emit an error and do not attempt to continue initialization if the cache cannot18:11
CIA-99be opened. Muon still needs to give better details as to what the error exactly18:11
ScottKNo18:14
jussihrm, is playing wmv's in dragon broken for anyone else atm?? (or kaffeine)18:21
JontheEchidnawmv's crash dragon here18:21
jussiok, so it isnt just me then.18:21
ScottKIt is, you just have a long reach.18:23
shadeslayerjussi: does X work now? :D18:23
jussishadeslayer: no, Im a bit wary about adding ppa's for a development release...18:24
shadeslayerhehe... well.. i got that ppa from sarvatt himself, from #ubuntu-x ... 18:25
jussishadeslayer: having a ppa in the deve release makes it harder to report bugs accurately18:26
shadeslayeryeah.. but i just wanted my X to work... since i have no other install :P18:27
oxymoronDoes anybody know how to enable my own user (Subuser of root one) to show left space on my harddrives in dolphin? It only works when Dolphin is in root mode? :S18:28
shadeslayerwow .. i have no idea what went wrong here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+build/1916260/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.kdepim-runtime_4%3A4.5~beta2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz18:31
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162795 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Send the internal error message as the details in the event of an InitError CCBUG:24753318:46
ScottKRiddell: dovecot-metadata-plugin is ~ready for some binary New if you're up for it.  18:58
CIA-99[libqapt] jmthomas * 1162808 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/cache.cpp Actually return true if everything is OK19:24
ulyssesWhy want Muon remove ubuntuone-kde?20:22
dantti_workRiddell: now I need to make kpk install/remove packages (I broke it), after that who do I poke to update the package?20:23
ulyssesJontheEchidna: haha, I like Muon's codename, it's from Doctor Who- The Eleventh Hour right?20:41
JontheEchidna:)20:41
ulyssesMuon 1.0 waiting to build for Maverick/universe?20:44
ulyssesJontheEchidna: what's the state of Muon 1.0 for Maverick? I don't see any sign of build on Launchpad20:54
JontheEchidnawaiting for libdebconf-kde to leave new queue20:55
ScottKJontheEchidna: source New or binary New?20:56
JontheEchidnaScottK: binary20:56
* ScottK looks20:56
Riddelldantti_work: I'm around to be poked21:00
dantti_workRiddell: fixes can be uploaded later right?21:01
ScottKRiddell: I'm doing libdebconf-kde binary New.21:01
ScottKdantti_work: Yes.21:01
dantti_workthanks21:01
* ScottK pokes Riddell about dovecot-metadata-plugin binary New.21:01
JontheEchidnabbiab21:04
Riddelldantti_work: yes21:05
ScottKWhen he comes back, let him know it's in seconds before the publisher run, so binaries ough to be available in ~40 minutes.21:05
debfxScottK: 22:07
ScottKdebfx: Yes?22:07
debfxcould you sponsor a package in debian?22:08
debfxI need to do some final testing first though ;)22:09
ScottKdebfx: Not today, but perhaps tomorrow.22:11
* dantti_work tries to get away from bugs :P22:11
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