[00:03] <glaucous> I'm using KDE4.5, and I can't enable composition. It just says that it's not available on this system due to some technical issues, but it doesn't say what the issue(s) are. Using 10.7 (latest) ATI. x64
[00:11] <peteyk> in System Monitor, the System Load tab stopped displaying CPU History. Anyone have any ideas how this could have happened?
[00:14] <BluesKaj> glaucous,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:14] <Roey> hi
[00:15] <Roey> I tried upgrading with do-release-whatever and got this when it was installing packages: http://pastebin.com/3nrUwVM8.  I tried fixing it with apt-get -f install and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade but it doesn't get past this error.
[00:15] <BluesKaj> hi Roey
[00:15] <Roey> hey Blues!
[00:15] <Roey> kinda-sorta need help here
[00:16] <BluesKaj> ok , Roey , looking
[00:16] <glaucous> BluesKaj: Actually I fixed it by removing ~.kde/share/config/kdmrc
[00:16] <glaucous> Or a smiliar path
[00:16] <Roey> BluesKaj:  thanks :)
[00:22] <BluesKaj> Roey,  did you try sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade ?
[00:23] <BluesKaj> Roey, btw are you running virtual box ?
[00:56] <mjobin> 10.04 + 4.5 rocks !!! thank you guys
[00:56] <BluesKaj> mjobin, another happy user :)
[00:56] <mjobin> glaucous: radeonfb ? fglrx ? you tried both ?
[00:57] <glaucous> mjobin: I fixed it by removing ~/.kde/share/config/kmdrc
[01:04] <marararam> i cannot start kontact anymore
[01:04] <marararam> kontact: error while loading shared libraries: libkontactinterface.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:04] <marararam> any hints?
[01:09] <mjobin> marararam: recently updated? i'd say some package is missing.
[01:09] <marararam> yeah, i updated about two hours ago to kde4.5
[01:10] <marararam> i have l /usr/lib/libkontactprivate.so.4
[01:10] <marararam> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2010-07-05 17:07 /usr/lib/libkontactprivate.so.4 -> libkontactprivate.so.4.4.0
[01:10] <marararam> but kontact won't start
[01:11] <mjobin> run as root : ldconfig -v | grep kontactprivate
[01:11] <marararam> apt-get update && apt-get [dist-]upgrade do not list anything to install
[01:12] <marararam> /sbin/ldconfig.real: Can't stat /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu: No such file or directory
[01:12] <marararam> /sbin/ldconfig.real: Can't stat /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu: No such file or directory
[01:12] <marararam>         libkontactprivate.so.4 -> libkontactprivate.so.4.4.0
[01:14] <mjobin> marararam: actually I am getting same error
[01:14] <BluesKaj> marararam, sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[01:14] <mjobin> no, I am missing /usr/lib/libkontactinterface.so.4
[01:15] <marararam> Reading package lists... Done
[01:15] <marararam> Building dependency tree
[01:15] <marararam> Reading state information... Done
[01:15] <marararam> Calculating upgrade... Done
[01:15] <marararam> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:15] <FloodBotK1> marararam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <mjobin> marararam: dpkg -l | grep kde | grep -v 4.5 # shows you that kdepim is still on 4.4.2 ? no ?
[01:18] <mjobin> marararam: do you have this package installed ? libkontactinterface4
[01:18] <mjobin> try ... apt-get install libkontactinterface4
[01:19] <mjobin> and this one ... libakonadi-contact4
[01:21] <mjobin> ldd /usr/bin/kontact | grep not\ found  # will show you what is missing.
[01:30] <BluesKaj> hmm, libkontactinterface.so.4  and  libakonadi-contact.so.4 are missing here too , fortunately I don;tmuse either one
[03:04] <marcosroriz> hi
[03:04] <marcosroriz> is there anyone here familiar with kopete?
[03:05] <marcosroriz> Every time a contact change it's state I get a notify. How do I completely disable?? I already switched off on #kopete
[03:06] <Roey> hi
[03:06] <Roey> I tried upgrading with do-release-whatever and got this when it was installing packages: http://pastebin.com/3nrUwVM8.  I tried fixing it with apt-get -f install and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade but it doesn't get past this error.
[03:06] <Roey> can anyone help me out with it please?  Thanks
[03:13] <well_laid_lawn> Roey: never seen that before - only suggestion is to remove vbox then do the upgrade
[03:13] <well_laid_lawn> only suggestion that I can make*
[03:13] <Roey> I tried didn't work
[03:13] <Roey> will try again.
[03:13] <well_laid_lawn> k
[03:14] <well_laid_lawn> try with the purge option in konsole
[03:14] <Roey> 20100811 22:13:54 roey@gear:~$ sudo dpkg -r virtualbox-3.1
[03:14] <Roey> dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 36371 package 'virtualbox-3.1':
[03:14] <Roey>  error in Version string `3.1.4-57640_Ubuntu_karmic': invalid character in revision number
[03:14] <Roey> I get that.
[03:14] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:14] <Scunizi> does gcal for akonadi actually work? I thought I had a connection to my google calendar account but not now..
[03:14] <well_laid_lawn> sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox
[03:15] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/hf3miApv
[03:16] <Scunizi> Roey: that link says to try sudo apt-get -f remove
[03:18] <well_laid_lawn> Roey: is the vbox you have the binary from vbox 'cause the ubuntu package is called virtualbox-ose ?
[03:18] <well_laid_lawn> !find virtualbox karmic
[03:19] <Scunizi> If you've done the upgrade to your system and have the binary Vbox installed you'll need to reinstall it.  The binary had kernel mods it makes
[03:20] <well_laid_lawn> !away > jt|away
[03:20] <Roey> well_laid_lawn:  it's from oracle themselves
[03:21] <Roey> in other words it is not the opensource vbox-ose package
[03:21] <well_laid_lawn> so why is it in dkg then?
[03:21] <Roey> I get the same with apt-get remove --purge.
[03:21] <Roey> I will bbiab.
[03:21] <Roey> showering.
[03:21] <well_laid_lawn> k
[04:00] <Roey> well_laid_lawn:  back
[04:01] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[04:22] <Reynaldo_> hey
[04:45] <Konversing> so this is my first time using KDE or ubuntu in a very long time, and I'm just getting used to it. Could anyone suggest some must-have KDE apps or things to make it cooler? Also, last time I checked, Konversation was the IRC client of choice...when did it switch to Quassel?
[04:51] <marcosroriz> Konversing: some must have apps
[04:51] <marcosroriz> Konversing: Choqok for twitter, Amarok for music, Kmess for MSN, Akregator for RSS
[04:51] <Konversing> hmm well I have KDEmicroblog for twitter
[04:51] <Konversing> and kopete is handling my IM stuff
[04:53] <marcosroriz> KolourPaint for basic graphics, Kchmviewer for chm books , qcomicbook for comics/manga
[04:53] <marcosroriz> I use gtk/java apps too
[04:53] <marcosroriz> you want only kde/qt apps?
[04:53] <Konversing> what about bittorrent? ktorrent ok?
[04:54] <marcosroriz> *well*
[04:54] <marcosroriz> I'm using it right now, but it kinda sucks
[04:54] <marcosroriz> I like vuze/azureus, I know it's kinda heavy but it well *just* rocks
[04:54] <Konversing> this setup is for my girlfriend who just switched from vista, and I usually use archlinux with xfce, so I have no idea about what kde apps to give her
[04:55] <marcosroriz> Konversing: put smooth tasks so you get a "taskbar" like win7
[04:55] <Konversing> marcosroriz: what extras does that offer?
[04:55] <marcosroriz> Konversing: I used to use arch but I stopped :3
[04:55] <Konversing> the only time I stop using arch is when I'm on my servers
[04:55] <Konversing> and they all run centos
[04:56] <marcosroriz> arch is too much vanilla for me
[04:57] <marcosroriz> + the packagers don't know how to pkg
[04:57] <Konversing> how is it too vanilla? I like having that much control over my system
[04:57] <Konversing> and bleeding edge is nice
[04:57] <marcosroriz> go with freebsd
[04:58] <marcosroriz> or gentoo
[04:58] <Konversing> arch is gentoo without the waiting for everything to compile
[04:58] <marcosroriz> lol
[04:58] <marcosroriz> it's not
[04:58] <marcosroriz> gentoo has quality assurance
[04:58] <marcosroriz> :)
[04:58] <marcosroriz> Arch well they just toss pkgs there :),
[04:58] <marcosroriz> for instance I reported a bug in a pkg in extra that the pkger didnt even run and it was segfaulting
[04:59] <marcosroriz> lol
[04:59] <Konversing> trust me, I've used gentoo....I've never seen a stability, performance, or control difference between the two
[04:59] <marcosroriz> I've used both
[04:59] <marcosroriz> and yes, gentoo is better
[04:59] <marcosroriz> it has a better pkg system
[04:59] <marcosroriz> and
[04:59] <marcosroriz> better dvelopers
[04:59] <marcosroriz> arch is cool :)
[05:00] <maco> !ot
[05:00] <marcosroriz> =)
[05:00] <marcosroriz> Konversing: http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7969/imagem1ty.png
[05:00] <marcosroriz> here the smooth tasks
[05:00] <marcosroriz> put this on her kubuntu and she will love it :)
[05:01] <Konversing> ok
[05:01] <Konversing> next thing....web browser?
[05:01] <Konversing> Konqueror doesnt seem to have the ctrl+enter url completion shortcut
[05:01] <marcosroriz> I use mozilla firefox
[05:01] <marcosroriz> :)
[05:01] <marcosroriz> the King :D
[05:02] <marcosroriz> it has a nice integration on kubuntu due to opensuse patches :)
[05:02] <Konversing> I was thinking on using iceweasel for her
[05:02] <Konversing> of*
[05:02] <marcosroriz> It's the same thing :3
[05:02] <marcosroriz> I like iceweasel because I like weasels
[05:02] <marcosroriz> weasles > fox :3
[05:03] <marcosroriz> Kmail in kubuntu is really great too
[05:04] <Konversing> do you know of any good blogging clients or note-taking apps?
[05:04] <Konversing> she used to use OneNote, and Windows Live Writer
[05:04] <marcosroriz> blogilo is really nice (for blogging)
[05:04] <maco> yeah firefox
[05:04] <maco> iceweasel is just debian's name for it
[05:04] <maco> dear internet:  stop with the lagging!
[05:04] <maco> basket for notes
[05:04] <FloodBotK1> maco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:05] <Konversing> meh basket is kind of annoying
[05:05] <Konversing> but ok
[05:05] <marcosroriz> maco: I like to use the plasmoid for notes :D
[05:05] <maco> i actually use tomboy...which is gnome... and very basic
[05:05] <Konversing> what is this whole kde plasma thing by the way?
[05:06] <maco> marcosroriz: there's a difference between "todo list on the screen" (that plasmoid) and "virtual notebook full of things the teacher said in class / boss said in meeting" (basket, tomboy)
[05:06] <marcosroriz> oh
[05:06] <maco> Konversing: all the widgets (panel, things on the panel, things on the desktop, and even the wallpaper) are plasmoids
[05:06] <maco> plasma is the thing that draws all the stuff thats not inside a standalone application window
[05:08] <maco> Konversing: does she use a tablet? if so, Xournal for notes
[05:09] <Konversing> well she has a wacom tablet
[05:09] <Konversing> will that work in kubuntu?
[05:09] <maco> yes
[05:09] <maco> oh kjots she might also like for notes
[05:09] <marcosroriz> maco: hmm never thought about htis
[05:09] <marcosroriz> *this,
[05:09] <marcosroriz> allways used the plasmoid :3
[05:10] <marcosroriz> for full noting there is? Xournal,tomboy and?
[05:10] <maco> basket
[05:10] <maco> kjots is like tomboy-level and integrates into kontact
[05:13] <Konversing> also, what's a good way to setup dropbox in kubuntu?
[05:13] <Konversing> she uses a keepass database thats stored on dropbox
[05:15] <marcosroriz> Konversing: just install dropbox pkg ;)
[05:16] <marcosroriz> it wont pull gnome :),
[05:22] <Konversing> ok as far as irc client is concerned....konversation or quassel?
[05:22] <Konversing> I don't know wither because I use irssi
[05:22] <Konversing> either*
[05:22] <luis> hello everyone good night i like to ask for your help. you see i just changed from kubuntu 8.04 to kubuntu 9.04, but my computer wich is a desktop has becomes to slow, and also it has come to my attention that even not doing anything the fan start working so fast and slowing down everything, also if i want to watch youtube vids, fan also start working so fast and therefore vids runs like in slow motion can somebody help me to fix this if is possible please??
[05:29] <maco> Konversing: either is fine. they're both featureful enough that the reason quassel's in nowadays is a lack of compelling reason to switch (the original reason for the switch was lack of qt4 version of konversation)
[05:31] <luis> so any one can help me on this matter please? or point me in the right direction, since i have look around some pages in google but none of them offer any real solution to his, help please
[06:01] <urgen> hi luis
[06:01] <urgen> buy RAM
[06:01] <urgen> it will help
[06:01] <luis> ok
[06:02] <luis> but with kubuntu8.04 was just fine
[06:02] <luis> never had that issues before
[06:02] <urgen> hehe, it only gets worse :-)
[06:02] <urgen> technology never takes a break
[06:03] <urgen> so things always break eventually
[06:03] <luis> well you are right after all i've been thinking on buying a new pc
[06:11] <condon> Just updated to VM 3.2 and now cannot find it in my menus.  Can anyone tell me how to launch VM?
[06:13] <condon> or point me to a channel that might know something about this?
[06:18] <CaptainKnots> does anyone know of a good ssh tunnel/proxy app?
[06:19] <CaptainKnots> sort of like tunnelier for windows or shimo for mac
[06:50] <noaXess> good morning..
[06:51] <noaXess> why are the new packages for kde 4.5 blocked from ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports? need i install dem with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:09] <jadi> upgraded to KDE 4.5 from ppa. that is awesome :D but one problem: when I click on an item in Klipper, "nothing happens", window is still open and I have to click on the Klipper icon to close the window. Do you guys have a same problem?
[07:21] <alvin> jadi: Just tried it. Yes
[07:21] <alvin> noaXess: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615902
[07:22] <alvin> The new KRDC is a surprise
[07:26] <DarthFrog> What is KRDC?
[07:27] <alvin> KDE Remote Desktop Client. Usually, a remote session (rdp or vnc) stays within the KRDC window. You can siwtch remote sessions by using tabs. Now it opens in new windows without borders.
[07:27] <alvin> krdc is installed by default
[07:28] <DarthFrog> Ah.  I've never used it.
[07:28] <DarthFrog> Tnx.
[07:29] <alvin> It's handy. You can put bookmarks in it (I have a lot) to every remote computer.
[07:29] <DarthFrog> I use ssh in konsole. :-)
[07:31] <alvin> Well, me too, but not for RDP/VNC sessions
[07:32] <alvin> Now, it looks like krdc is very broken and I can't find the beta label.
[07:44] <noaXess> alvin: so.. just wait, until the packages are all fixed and packaged?
[07:45] <alvin> noaXess: I don't think the krdc problems are a package bug.
[07:46] <alvin> Might as wel be the video driver
[07:46] <noaXess> alvin: i mean.. wait until the packages aren't blocked in kpackagekit..
[07:47] <alvin> noaXess: Oh that. I will. I have a lot of machines to upgrade, and I only did 2 so far. For the rest, I'll wait. (Never tried packagekit actually. Always aptitude)
[07:51] <noaXess> alvin: so, wait and drink tee ;).. or coffee
[07:51] <well_laid_lawn> !tee
[07:52] <alvin> !thee
[07:52] <alvin> No bot :-)
[07:52] <well_laid_lawn> !bot
[07:53] <alvin> ok, hi ubottu. Didn't see you there.
[07:53] <alvin> I'll just file some bugs while waiting
[07:53] <well_laid_lawn> it sends a pm if it can't find something
[08:21] <tweakedeh> Hey, I'm on kubuntu 10.4 and I'm trying to restart samba... /etc/init.d/samba restart  no longer works, any Ideas?
[08:26] <well_laid_lawn> !upstart
[08:27] <well_laid_lawn> tweakedeh: try   sudo service samba restart
[08:27] <tweakedeh> well_laid_lawn: tweakedeh@BlackBox:~$ sudo service samba restart
[08:27] <tweakedeh> samba: unrecognized service
[08:27] <tweakedeh> tweakedeh@BlackBox:~$
[08:28] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[08:28] <well_laid_lawn> tweakedeh: try   sudo samba restart
[08:29] <tweakedeh> well_laid_lawn: sudo: samba: command not found
[08:29] <well_laid_lawn> k
[08:29] <well_laid_lawn> !samba
[08:29] <alvin> Why is samba different to restart from other services?
[08:29] <well_laid_lawn> I don't use it so I don't know...
[08:30] <alvin> I don't run samba here, but I've also told other people to do 'sudo service samba restart' and they report the same.
[08:30] <tweakedeh> I don't know either, I some what new to linux...
[08:30] <alvin> If you use /etc/init.d/samba restart it'll tell you that it's deprecated...
[08:30] <well_laid_lawn> I'm gunna read the links above and see
[08:30] <alvin> and suggest service samba restart
[08:31] <tweakedeh> bash: /etc/init.d/samba: No such file or directory
[08:31] <tweakedeh> It's weird becuase that command use to work =\
[08:33] <tweakedeh> I have been looking and i was told to try /etc/init.d/smbd restart but I get errors for that too.
[08:33] <well_laid_lawn> tweakedeh: sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[08:33] <well_laid_lawn> k
[08:33] <tweakedeh> well_laid_lawn: tweakedeh@BlackBox:~$ /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[08:33] <tweakedeh> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[08:33] <tweakedeh> utility, e.g. service smbd restart
[08:33] <tweakedeh> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[08:33] <tweakedeh> Upstart job, you may also use the restart(8) utility, e.g. restart smbd
[08:33] <FloodBotK1> tweakedeh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <tweakedeh> restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 pid=2549 comm="restart) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))
[08:34] <well_laid_lawn> tweakedeh: try   sudo restart smbd   then
[08:35] <tweakedeh> then I try restart smbd and I get the same error from the restart:
[08:37] <tweakedeh> tweakedeh@BlackBox:~$ sudo restart smbd
[08:37] <tweakedeh> smbd start/running, process 2570
[08:38] <tweakedeh> so that worked... Thanks a lot =]
[08:38] <well_laid_lawn> woot!
[08:39] <tweakedeh> much appreciated =]
[08:39] <well_laid_lawn> so no service and restart the daemon not samba works
[08:40] <tweakedeh> well  I didn't think it worked becuase I usually seen it stop and start but I guess they changed that... I can get into samba now =]
[08:41] <well_laid_lawn> I would have expected a   stopping samba   sort of comment
[08:41] <tweakedeh> Yea, thats what I though I should of seen too.. but I couldn't get into samba on windows xp but now I can...
[08:42] <well_laid_lawn> happy times :]
[08:42] <tweakedeh> lol very much, thanks again!
[08:46] <alvin>  Well, the documentation says: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:48] <alvin> ...Changes every release. If you restart smbd instead, will nmbd also automatically restarted? 'samba' did both.
[09:17] <alvin> Can you somehow force 'ubuntu-bug' to continue? It's reporting 'not a genuine package' for the Kubuntu ppa-backports packages.
[09:29] <well_laid_lawn> !ppa
[09:29] <AndreS_> Is there some information to be found yet on why the KDE 4.5 update for AMD64 on Lucid (10.04) appears blocked? Is there a way I can find out what's blocking it? KPackageKit doesn't give me that information...
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> says there not supported
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> alvin: ^^
[09:31] <well_laid_lawn> AndreS_: from what I've seen on here it is not ready yet
[09:31] <AndreS_> OK. Thanks. I am still curious what is blocking it though. Must be something simple to get to see that info?
[09:32] <alvin> AndreS_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615902
[09:33] <alvin> It's installable, but there are issues with klipper, printer management and krdc so far.
[09:33] <alvin> on the bright side: no more nepomuk segfaults!
[09:35] <alvin> I've also seen some akonadi crashes (what's new), but it doesn't look so bad. Resources do work.
[09:36] <AndreS_> alvin: thanks. I think I won't try to force the install.
[09:36] <alvin> Makes sense
[09:37] <AndreS_> The bugreport is informative; it seems I am not the only one. My current setup is working (including printers that work plug & play on my laptop), so I guess I'll leave it for now.
[09:38] <AndreS_> Perhaps next week...
[09:38] <well_laid_lawn> if you want the latest you have to accept at least some bugs
[09:39] <well_laid_lawn> just do the right thing and help out by reporting them
[09:40] <alvin> ubuntu-bug doesn't want to
[09:40] <AndreS_> I do accept some bugs, no problem, but I just don't have time to go fiddle with getting a broken system back to work at the moment. So, I'll just give it a little time.
[09:40] <AndreS_> Thanks for the info though.
[09:42] <ruediger> hi
[09:43] <ruediger> kmail in kubuntu lucid backports is missing libakonadi-contact4 and libkontactinterface4 dependencies
[09:44] <Magix> Hello.
[09:44] <Magix> Can someone help me with Firefox sound?
[09:44] <Magix> Sometimes it workds.
[09:44] <Magix> s*
[09:44] <Magix> Sometime it doesnt works.
[09:44] <Magix> But the sound on other applications works too
[09:45] <alvin> ruediger: Not here, but I've seen a bug report about that, so you're not alone.
[09:45] <ruediger> alvin: yeah launchpad seems to be not fully functional. I'm searching for it in the bug database
[09:46] <ruediger> manually installing those libs solved the problem. But it should be fixed.
[09:46] <Magix> ^ Can someone help me?
[09:50] <Magix> My sound doesnt work with Opera Either.
[09:51] <Magix> !nl
[10:17] <rethus> have now done a dull-upgrade
[10:17] <rethus> i got the message 11 packages broken, 138 updated
[10:17] <rethus> whats about this error?
[10:18] <rethus> can i do a saftly rebot now, or have i to do something else to fix this 11 broken packages?
[10:18] <well_laid_lawn> rethus: did it say to run a command in the error output ?
[10:18] <rethus> no
[10:19] <rethus> if i look back the output while upgrading i have messages like:
[10:19] <rethus> Fehler beim Bearbeiten von libqt4-qt3support (--configure):
[10:19] <rethus>  Abhängigkeitsprobleme - lasse es unkonfiguriert
[10:19] <well_laid_lawn> rethus: in konsole what does   sudo apt-get -f install   return?
[10:20] <well_laid_lawn> there is a german channel if that would help
[10:20] <well_laid_lawn> !de
[10:20] <rethus> most of it are qt4
[10:20] <well_laid_lawn> rethus: is this 64bit kde 4.5?
[10:20] <rethus> no 32 bit.
[10:20] <well_laid_lawn> k
[10:21] <rethus> the install command install the broken deps
[10:21] <well_laid_lawn> so all's good?
[10:21] <rethus> Error occurs on:
[10:21] <rethus>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-help_4%3a4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu3~lucid1~ppa4_i386.deb
[10:21] <rethus> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:22] <well_laid_lawn> there was something about that earlier
[10:23] <well_laid_lawn> alvin: do you know about this ^^ ?
[10:23] <rethus> got this if i type full-update agein: http://pastebin.com/Nc7iK8rE
[10:23] <well_laid_lawn> k
[10:24] <alvin> well_laid_lawn: Yes, I posted that in https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615902. You can ignore it by using --force
[10:24] <well_laid_lawn> thnx alvin :]
[10:24] <alvin> well_laid_lawn: I don't know the result! KDE 4.5 will install, but maybe some things will be missing from the help?
[10:25] <gilles_> hello here
[10:25] <alvin> The help is incomplete anyway, so I wouldn't mind
[10:25] <well_laid_lawn> alvin: if it's known about it can be worked around :]
[10:25] <alvin> well_laid_lawn: Not all bugs have workarounds :-)
[10:26] <well_laid_lawn> no they don't...
[10:26] <gilles_> i've upgraded to kde 4.5 and now when i log i got only a black screen
[10:26] <well_laid_lawn> alvin: but the help thing is managable
[10:26] <alvin> I'm looking at it now. It does look as if there's more in the help now.
[10:26] <rethus> so u write to do two times a dist-upgrade -f ?!
[10:27] <well_laid_lawn> it's   sudo apt-get --force dist-upgrade   it seems
[10:28] <alvin> That's what I did.
[10:28] <rethus> but have to run it two times?
[10:28] <alvin> Yes. I'm not used to apt-get. There might be another method (usually I use aptitude)
[10:28] <well_laid_lawn> why two times?
[10:28] <alvin> Because the upgrade will break twice
[10:28] <well_laid_lawn> k :]
[10:28] <rethus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/615902/comments/17
[10:28] <well_laid_lawn> I trust you all ;]
[10:29] <gilles_> i'm running window maker
[10:30] <gilles_> iwhy kwin --replace don't change wm ?
[10:30] <alvin> When Launchpad is accessible again, tick 'This bug affects me'. Maybe it'll work now in Konqueror.
[10:44] <rethus> have upgraded now
[10:44] <rethus> but after reboot, i got no kde at all... so i have to switch to commandline and do aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:44] <rethus> after reboot, all seems to work now
[10:46] <well_laid_lawn> there's a reason 4.5 is in a ppa... :]
[10:49] <rethus> if i try to start kontact, i got an error now
[10:49] <rethus> libakonadi-contact.so.4 cannot open shared object
[10:49] <rethus> no such file or directory
[10:51] <well_laid_lawn> there was something about that earlier too
[10:52] <well_laid_lawn> but since I don't use 4.5 I didn't take much notice...
[10:52] <well_laid_lawn> should be something on launchpad
[10:53] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[10:53] <phoenix_> what is the current kde stable version
[10:53] <rethus> sudo apt-get install libkontactinterface4 libakonadi-contact4 works for me
[10:54] <rethus> 4.5
[10:55] <phoenix_> rethus: so it is very safe to install kde 4.5?
[10:55] <rethus> my kde4-config --version:
[10:55] <rethus> Qt: 4.7.0
[10:55] <rethus> KDE: 4.5.00 (KDE 4.5.0)
[10:55] <rethus> kde4-config: 1.0
[10:55] <FloodBotK1> rethus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:56] <rethus> phoenix_ i have done it before 30 seconds.
[10:56] <rethus> its a bit trickey
[10:56] <rethus> see here... last 3 postshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/615902/
[10:57] <phoenix_> rethus: last time installed 10.10 and screwed up the system
[10:57] <phoenix_> rethus: reinstalled yesterday
[10:57] <rethus> i have still 10.09
[11:00] <rethus> when does kadress 4.5 released ? is there a roadmap?
[11:06] <well_laid_lawn> someone in #kde might know
[11:06] <txwsqk> how to modify the leave tab of kickoff start menu ? thanks
[11:18] <phoenix_> i enabled the kubuntu backports, kpackage shows blocked updates
[11:18] <phoenix_> my current kde version is 4.4.2
[11:19] <phoenix_> got it
[11:37] <alvin> Hmm, we might point users to the '--force' option the whole week. Shouldn't that be on the announcement on the kubuntu.org website?
[11:37] <rdale> i've just upgraded to kde 4.5 but virtuoso won't start because it says a soprano plugin is missing - is that a known problem?
[11:40] <alvin> rdale: Where do you see that message?
[11:40] <rdale> in a dialog at startup
[11:41] <alvin> I don't see it, but maybe it's missing for you.
[11:41] <seraphim1> i cant chante the kdm theme with systemsetting tool
[11:42] <alvin> Have you tried $ sudo aptitude install  to list the dependency problems?
[11:44] <rdale> 'sudo aptitude install' doesn't show any dependency problems
[11:46] <seraphim1> yes.... 100 times
[11:46] <seraphim1> aptitude install -f
[11:47] <seraphim1> kdegraphics-libs-data conflicts with libkdcraw8
[11:49] <alvin> Below, aptitude will show you trouble with packages that are [not installed]. Simply uninstall those ($ sudo aptitude purge [not-installed-package$) and repear
[11:50] <alvin> repeat until satisfied
[11:51] <seraphim1> why the hell that can happens. the package guys not test this things seriosly ?
[11:53] <alvin> I have no idea how packaging such a release works. All I've ever done is patch some small debs myself.
[12:05] <asdfkjdjfhhff> the not found label in the search bar of konqueror should be louder
[12:09] <rdale> the virtuoso binary got installed in /usr/lib/virtuoso/virtuoso-t, but soprano doesn't look there for the binary, and so i needed to create a sym link in /usr/bin before nepomuk would start. it was fine before i upgraded to kde 4.5
[12:15] <Fortran> hello all, say Riddell can you tell me how to stop bluetooth and printer from starting up automaticlly when Kubuntu starts
[12:17] <Riddell> rdale: we've always installed virtuoso-t to there, our security guys didn't want it in /usr/bin I'm afraid
[12:17] <Riddell> Fortran: investigate autostart in System Settings
[12:17] <Fortran> Ok thanks Riddell
[12:18] <Fortran> yup got it thanks
[12:18] <rdale> Riddell: oh, I'm not sure how soprano would find it in /usr/lib/virtuoso - from reading the code it is looking in SOPRANO_PREFIX"/bin" and $PATH, so do i need to put /usr/lib/virtuoso on my path?
[12:24] <Riddell> rdale: yes we have to patch soprano
[12:24] <rdale> ah ok
[12:24] <Riddell> rdale: so this should probably be noted in various developer docs
[12:24] <Riddell> or I could try convincing trueg to take the patch upstream again I suppose
[12:25] <rdale> i can't see it doing any harm to put /usr/lib/virtuoso on the search paths
[12:26] <rdale> but i reinstalled the current libsoprano4 package, and it still didn't find virtuoso-t
[12:27] <Riddell> rdale: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_03_virtuoso_path.diff
[12:27] <rdale> is it possible that patch got missed from the current kde 4.5 soprano package?
[12:28] <Riddell> rdale: yes that is the case :(
[12:28] <rdale> ah ok great - i know what's going on now
[12:28] <Riddell> one of our packagers dropped it, sigh
[12:31] <Riddell> rdale: fix uploaded to the PPA (I'm assuming you're using the PPA)
[12:32] <rdale> yes, ok i am thanks
[12:36] <asdfkjdjfhhff> and by louder i mean bigger and more colorful
[13:04] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[13:05] <phoenix_> need some info
[13:05] <phoenix_> why is the drag and drog feature in kde is not instantaneous
[13:06] <phoenix_> phoenix_:  when i drag and drop a file quickly, the target program doesnt capture it
[13:14] <James147> phoenix_: drag and drop from and to what?
[13:15] <phoenix_> James147:  from a folder to vlc player
[13:16] <phoenix_> James147: generally, its slow. have you tried to drag and drop quickly
[13:17] <James147> phoenix_: dont ahve vlc... but with kaffine it seems to be working as expected...
[13:18] <phoenix_> James147: what is your process and its speed
[13:18] <phoenix_> processor
[13:18] <James147> dont think that would matter much.. its an amd dual core at about 2ghz
[13:19] <phoenix_> James147: mine is p4 ht 3.0
[13:31] <volodya> I would like to switch between internal (laptop's) and external monitor with "Fn-F8". Anybody know how to make this happen?
[13:32] <volodya> I presently use the "configure display" thing, but it's annoying
[13:39] <phoenix_> is there a way to disable "what is this" popups
[13:40] <phoenix_> James147: is there a way to disable "what is this" popups
[13:53] <Kangarooo> bug 1
[13:57] <chemical-death> hi
[13:57] <chemical-death> does kde 4.5 work or should i wait with upgrade
[13:58] <James147> chemical-death: as far as I know it should be safe to upgrade now
[13:59] <chemical-death> James147: do i get it via ppa backports?
[13:59] <James147> chemical-death: yes, see topic for more info about it :)
[13:59] <chemical-death> James147: ok thanks
[14:00] <OutoLumo> I upgraded last night and my plasmoids went kaboom.
[14:00] <James147> which plasmoids?
[14:07] <OutoLumo> Comic disappeared entirely from the desktop and microblogging lost its account information.
[14:08] <OutoLumo> In addition, I only just now got kmail back.
[14:11] <vot> how do you setup kubuntu to start up in text only mode
[14:17] <alvin> vot: I suppose you have to disable the kdm service. Anyone knows how to do that with upstart?
[14:18] <alvin> If you choose text console in kdm, after a short while, kdm will restart itself. I think upstart is to blame for this.
[14:22] <vot> alvin, yep i want it to boot to text
[14:22] <vot> using it in a vm and want to save memory
[14:26] <alvin> vot: The problem is that upstart automatically restarts kdm. I have yet to find out how to disable services. Can someone shed some light on the situation?
[14:29] <James147> alvin: you can try "sudo mv /etc/init/kdm.conf /etc/init/kdm.conf.noexec"  but I do not know if that will actually work :)
[14:29] <James147> alvin: or editing that file ^^
[14:30] <alvin> But what if you want to start kdm afterwards?
[14:34] <DarthFrog> You want to boot to the command line?  Choose "Recovery Mode" in GRUB.  Pick "Drop to the console with networking" when asked.
[14:35] <DarthFrog> You might be logged in as root then.  "su - <username>" will switch users from root to your username.
[14:39] <alvin> DarthFrog: Erm, there might be worse methods to do that, but I can't think of one.
[14:39] <James147> vot: alvin: this seems to work, althoguh i cant test a rebot atm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8476712&postcount=4
[14:40] <alvin> Creative thinking though
[14:40] <DarthFrog> alvin: What's the problem with it?
[14:40] <DarthFrog> alvin: It gets you where you want to go. :-)
[14:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:41] <alvin> I think a solution like: [$ sudo service disable kdm] would be much cleaner. Ramming shift at boot to get into grub or modifying grub isn't the same as disabling a service or switching a runlevel (no longer exists in Ubuntu)
[14:42] <chemical-death> James147: i did that upgrade to kde 4.5 still everything is working good...
[14:42] <DarthFrog> alvin: Ah, you want elegant and permanent, rather than simply effective
[14:43] <alvin> chemical-death: Try klipper, krdc or modifying a printer if you want to see breakage ;-)
[14:43] <alvin> DarthFrog: Well, suppose I'm a sysadmin and I give a machine to a user. Do I want him to log in as root before he gets his login?
[14:44] <James147> alvin: see the last link i sent ^^ thats the best solution i have found so far
[14:44] <alvin> James147: Looks like it is. :-(
[14:45] <DarthFrog> alvin: The fellow was asking how to boot to a console in a VM.  He wasn't asking for a universal solution.  You want a universal solution?  Edit /etc/init/kdm.conf and comment out the line that starts kdm.
[14:46] <DarthFrog> alvin: you can then start KDM from the command line, if  you wish, with "sudo kdm".
[14:46] <alvin> DarthFrog: I'm sure vot has his console login now, but yes. I would like to see a universal solution to disable services. Previous Ubuntu versions had that.
[14:47] <vot> no i dont
[14:49] <James147> vot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8476712&postcount=4 << thats the best way I have found to disable kdm
[14:51] <vot> yea i think renaming it
[14:51] <vot> is the best
[14:52] <vot> sexy
[14:53] <vot> and my streaming app can run console
[14:53]  * alvin looks hopeful at systemd
[14:54] <munny> hi all!
[14:55] <munny> after upgrade to kde 4.5 eclipse starts only in sudo... anyone can help me?
[14:57] <James147> munny: well, i DONT recomend starting eclipse as root, at all, ever :p
[14:58] <munny> eheheh thx this is also what i thik...! ;)
[14:58] <munny> but like normal user i get java exceptio... with a long list of gtk libraries...
[14:58] <James147> munny: hm, seems to start here fine.. do you have the one form the repos or from eclipses site?
[14:59] <munny> yes... subversion and pydev...
[15:01] <munny> sorry james.. i've read bad your question
[15:01] <munny> james147 i use version from eclipse site and put in /opt
[15:02] <James147> munny: can you pastebin the error you get?
[15:03] <Surunveri> hi
[15:03] <Surunveri> is there anyway to adjust teh Kubuntu mouse configuration
[15:03] <Surunveri> more than just from the Settings
[15:03] <Surunveri> ?
[15:03] <James147> Surunveri: in system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse
[15:03] <James147> (if i remember right)
[15:04] <Surunveri> yes but
[15:04] <Surunveri> I meant is there any other place than that
[15:04] <Surunveri> im trying to play this game where you have to draw and others need to guess what you're drawing
[15:04] <Surunveri> and the sensitivty is too fast
[15:05] <munny> James147: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476953/
[15:05] <James147> Surunveri: on the advanced tab turn down the pointer acceleration
[15:06]  * James147 grumbles at eclipse
[15:06] <adi_> hi all. can anyone give me tips on how to get a faster and lighter kubuntu....
[15:07] <adi_> i have only 460mb ram and i am running kubuntu 9.10
[15:07] <James147> adi_: upgrading to lucid should help ^^ then to kde 4.5
[15:07] <adi_> cpu celeron d 2.66ghz
[15:07] <adi_> do you think lucid is lighter?
[15:08]  * James147 finds kde 4.5 much more responsive then 4.4 and eairler
[15:08] <James147> not nesserlly lighter, but more responsive at elast
[15:08] <alvin> adi_: I don't think it will make much difference. You're really low on ram and distributions are more ram hungry than 5 years back.
[15:08] <James147> adi_: ^^ you can also disable desktop effects, nepomuk/strigi
[15:09] <adi_> nepomuk and strigi never anabled
[15:09] <adi_> but what to blacklist?
[15:09] <James147> alvin: 9.10 has kde 4.3? by default, the advancements in kde have made things run allot smoother
[15:09] <alvin> You don't have to disable nepomuk. It'll crash by itself anyway unless you have 4.5
[15:09] <adi_> i dont have bluetooth
[15:10] <alvin> James147: I tried running with 512 MB. It's too low. Just start a default desktop, and check memory usage.
[15:10] <adi_> so you guys say its better in geerally to upgrade to lucid
[15:10] <adi_> and than to last kde?
[15:11]  * James147 had 4.0 running on 4.0 once and was only slightly below useable :)
[15:11] <alvin> Well, it won't hurt you. You will not win performance, but you will also not lose performance.
[15:11] <James147> adi_: I think it might help alittle, kde 4.5 is allot more polished then previous versions
[15:11] <adi_> and how about getting a better resolution... im on 900X650
[15:12] <alvin> I agree with James. (aside from some fresh bugs)
[15:12] <James147> alvin: why not gain preformance? if kde has made improvmenst in preformance he could see them
[15:12] <adi_> crt monitor but with xp it can get really high
[15:12] <adi_> i have :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[15:12] <alvin> James147: He will probably not notice performance gain with a heavily swapping system.
[15:13] <adi_> is there any howto make a lighter kde?
[15:13] <adi_> or kubuntu?
[15:14] <adi_> what i need up and running is just a browser and skype
[15:14] <adi_> dont have a wifi bluetooth burning cd/dvd rom ect
[15:14] <alvin> adi_: In that case, I'd try Lubuntu, or how is it called? The one with LXDE
[15:15] <alvin> There is a page on help.ubuntu.com to tweak the system a bit. Let's see if I can find it.
[15:15] <adi_> my problem is that i cant burn cd/dvd
[15:15] <adi_> i had this original cd from shipit and it was 9.10 kubuntu
[15:15] <adi_> :)
[15:16] <alvin> adi_: Aha. Well, is it the alternate cd?
[15:16] <Surunveri> james147 yeah i went there but it was insufficient
[15:16] <adi_> and my bios dont have a boot from usb option
[15:16] <alvin> You can use the text-installer to install Kubuntu without KDE
[15:16] <adi_> no just normal cd
[15:16] <adi_> graphic one
[15:16] <alvin> Here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems But I can imagine it is insufficient.
[15:17] <munny> James have you understand something in my error?
[15:17] <munny> ;)
[15:17] <alvin> Hmm, well, you can install kubuntu complete, and then remove kubuntu-desktop and everything with it. Keep ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard. Then put on xorg, a browser and skype.
[15:17] <adi_> alvin i read this page before
[15:17] <adi_> cant get much from there
[15:18] <Surunveri> so is there any other way to adjust mouse sensitivty than the system settings, keyboard&mouse
[15:18] <adi_> :) alvin thats too complicated for me
[15:18] <Surunveri> with kubuntu 10.04?
[15:19] <Surunveri> right now i have all settings turned down to minimum
[15:19] <alvin> adi_: It's experimenting a bit, but it'll certainly work. As long as you keep ubuntu-minimal and dependencies, you'll have a working system. Even then, you could strip some things like described on the community page
[15:19] <Surunveri> and it takes about 2-3 inches on the mat to skip across the screen
[15:19] <Surunveri> which is perfectly fine for normal using
[15:19] <Surunveri> but im trying to play this game
[15:19] <Surunveri> where i draw a picture and other people guess what it is
[15:19] <Surunveri> and I imagine it would be a lot easier if the mouse sensitivity were a little less
[15:20] <adi_> ok guys. what about skype video in kubuntu?
[15:20] <adi_> how did you make it work?
[15:21] <Surunveri> anyone? =/
[15:21] <James147> munny: sorry, not enritly sure whats wrong with it :S
[15:29] <Surunveri> doh
[15:31] <lelamal> Hi all. I upgraded to 4.5, and after login I always get from Semantic Data Storage: "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server to store its data. Installing the Virtuoso Soprano plugin is mandatory for using Nepomuk."
[15:31] <munny> James147 ok.... now i try to delete /opt/eclipse and reinstall...
[15:31] <lelamal> I'm not sure what I need to install
[15:31] <Surunveri> i found some tip from google
[15:32] <Surunveri> saying that maybe it's possible to change the sensitivity using Xset command
[15:32] <Surunveri> but i have no idea how to do that or what actually to change .D
[15:33] <James147> lelamal: try installing virtuoso-nepomuk
[15:34] <lelamal> James147: it says it's installed
[15:35] <James147> lelamal: try creating a new user and see if it dose the same with them (will show if its a config problem)
[15:35] <Surunveri> hmm looks like xset only allows changing the acceleration
[15:35] <Surunveri> but does not actually slow down the mouse
[15:35] <Surunveri> so it almost works but not quite
[15:35] <Surunveri> or at least that's the impression i got
[15:35] <lelamal> James147: ok
[15:36] <Surunveri> so nobody knows ?/
[15:39] <XunZi> hi
[15:39] <XunZi> I do not see kde 4.5 in the updates. I have backports enable
[15:40] <James147> XunZi: try running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[15:40] <XunZi> and "unsupported updates" also checked (enabled) in the software sources utiltity
[15:40] <James147> XunZi: you also need the backports ppa (see the topic)
[15:41] <vot> hmm
[15:41] <vot> doesnt kubuntu create devices for /dev/tty etc
[15:41] <James147> vot: mine dise ^^
[15:41] <James147> does ^^
[15:42] <vot> hmm
[15:43] <munny> James147 now seems ok... i'm reinstalling plugin bat eclipse started...
[15:43] <munny> bha....
[15:44] <lelamal> James147: yes, I get the same warning for the other user as well
[15:44] <Surunveri> x_x
[15:44] <James147> lelamal: :S try installing kubuntu-desktop
[15:44] <lelamal> James147: even if I try to enable Strigi from system settings
[15:45] <lelamal> James147: nothing to install =)
[15:45] <Surunveri> so anyone know how to slow down the mouse sensitivity outside the settings keyboard/mouse panel
[15:46] <Surunveri> ?
[15:47] <Kangarooo> hello why bug 1 doesnt work? bug responder for #kubuntu u know?
[15:47] <omar> hola alguiend e toluca mexico?
[15:50] <XunZi> I
[15:51] <Kangarooo> about getting bug responding back meeting in #ubuntu-meeting Saturday 14 August 20:00 UTC https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda description https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/IRCteamproposal
[16:04] <Surunveri> so anyone know how to slow down the mouse sensitivity outside the settings keyboard/mouse panel
[16:08] <e01> some news about konqueror`s bug when showing flash
[16:16] <Lightning> I'm having EPIC problems. Anyone can help?
[16:16] <|magic|> hi
[16:16] <|magic|> to all
[16:16] <Lightning> It fails to mount my stuff, says try init= bootarg and when I do it tells me bootarg isn't found]
[16:17] <newIRC> !list
[16:17] <XunZi> can't believe this
[16:18] <XunZi> I had problem playing full hd .mkv files with vlc and mplayer
[16:18] <XunZi> now these files play fine in Dragon PLayer
[16:21] <slow-motion> hi
[16:23] <mweijts> I reinstalled Kubuntu with kde4.5 and it is using ALSA in phonon and working allright
[16:24] <mweijts> after i installed Ubuntu-desktop and Xubuntu-desktop ALSA is gone in KDE 4.5
[16:24] <mweijts> how to repair this ?
[16:26] <mweijts> Alsa is replaced bij Pulse audio and all System notifications are not working anymore
[16:34] <Lightning> I'm having EPIC problems. Anyone can help?
[16:34] <Lightning> It fails to mount my stuff, says try init= bootarg and when I do it tells me bootarg isn't found]
[17:04] <Lightning> No help?
[17:17] <vot> hmm how is boottime network config handled
[17:18] <vot> i.e where are the scripts that configure the interfaces before someone logs on
[17:20] <vot> network manager i guess
[17:26] <Lightning> It fails to mount my stuff, says try init= bootarg and when I do it tells me bootarg isn't found]
[17:26] <Lightning> I fond a solution
[17:26] <Lightning> But that involves getting a new hard drive, which is strictly not happening for me
[17:37] <test999> how to recower password
[17:37] <test999> "/msg NickServ SETPASS test999"
[17:37] <test999> ???
[17:41] <test999> thrjjyjk
[17:41] <vot> how do you add the computer icon to the desktop
[17:41] <test999> SETPASS test999
[17:41] <BluesKaj> test999, system settings / password & user account
[17:42] <test999> "/msg NetServ SETPASS test999" ???
[17:42] <BluesKaj> oh , wrong pw ..sry
[17:42] <test999> you all! assholls... do not you write me fucking wholl   full string that I should to write??
[17:43] <BluesKaj> !language
[17:43] <BluesKaj> !nickserv
[17:45] <murali> can any1 help me plz, i am new to kubuntu
[17:45] <AndroUser> i can try, what's up?
[17:45] <test999> murali  blah blah blah ////   your english is shit
[17:45] <IdleOne> !attitude | test999
[17:46] <BluesKaj> test999, type nickserv help in the server text box
[17:47] <murali> Thanks AndroUser. i have installed mplayer, vlc player, kaffiene. but  there is no audio while playing video files except in Dragon player
[17:47] <test999> BluesKaj   fuck....  I went to #freenode.... there I can get help )))   What do you thing about my english?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> murali, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:47] <ironbeard> hmm what file extention of audio
[17:48] <IdleOne> !ops | test999 swearing and bad attitude
[17:48] <ironbeard> what blueskaj said sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras in konsole
[17:48] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: ?
[17:48] <gnomefreak> test999: please stop
[17:48] <murali> How to do tht BluesKaj
[17:48] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: he got warned about his attitude and language
[17:48] <Pici> Indeed.
[17:48] <IdleOne> did not realize there were so many active ops
[17:49] <IdleOne> :)
[17:49] <ironbeard> murali read my comment above, this is androuser, changed my nick
[17:49] <BluesKaj> murali, open a terminal , sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !pm | murali
[17:50] <murali> yes BluesKaj
[17:51] <murali> Thank you ubottu
[17:51] <BluesKaj> murali, kmenu/system/konsole , type the command we gave you there
[17:51] <murali> yes,  done still no use
[17:54] <murali> BluesKaj, i have entered tht command and its installd. but still no audio on any of the players except Dragon player
[17:56] <murali> What i have to do next, BluesKaj?
[17:56] <ironbeard> hey guys, a bit of a n00b on setting up networks. anyone see what im doing wrong? im trying to set up a server so i can access my home computer through my phone with either ssh or vnc. i logged into my router and selected static ip which gave me an ip address (i guess for the router, was not a 192.168....) subnet and gateway (again, not 192...). then went to network settings in kubuntu and manually set the ip addresses for my wir
[17:57] <BluesKaj> murali, , try areboot
[17:58] <murali> ok, plz wait
[17:59] <seraphim> hy, is your scrolling on dolphin also not smooth ?
[17:59] <seraphim> its not like an android phone pixel per pixel its line per line jumps
[18:02] <murali> Still no audio, BluesKaj. What to do next?
[18:02] <murali> BluesKaj, permission to chat?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> no
[18:03] <ironbeard> hmm..think my connection timed out.
[18:03] <murali> ok. what next?
[18:03] <murali> any suggestions?
[18:03] <ironbeard> ?
[18:03] <adi_> hi all. can anyone tell me or send me via mail the graphic driver "sis_drv.so" that any k/ubuntu user have on its file system /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
[18:04] <adi_> i did something bad and delete it
[18:04] <ironbeard> sorry, not on a kubuntu system currently
[18:04] <adi_> now i need that but i can find anywhere
[18:04] <BluesKaj> murali, dunno what to do next, if you have audio on one player you should have it on all of them ...check the vol ctrls on the players or check to see if pulseaudio is installed.
[18:04] <murali> BluesKaj, any suggestions?
[18:05] <adi_>  ironbeard : go see here if you have it /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
[18:05] <adi_> its called "sis_drv.so"
[18:05] <ironbeard> hmm.. is it possible the codecs didnt get installed in the other players?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> ironbeard, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[18:07] <BluesKaj> murali,  pulseaudio?
[18:07] <Guest43540> Does anyone know how to remove a USB video capture card from Kaffiene?  I just got a new one and the old one is still showing up in the configure menu but there is no option to remove it or add another card.
[18:08] <murali> do i need to install it, BluesKaj?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> murali, kmenu/system/system settings/multimedia ..check for pulseaudio
[18:09] <BluesKaj> murali, sometimes pulse audio creates problems on integrated audio cards
[18:10] <murali> sudo aptitude install pulseaudio, is this the command???
[18:12] <ironbeard> adi: im on android now
[18:12] <ironbeard> blueskaj: thanks, looking it up!
[18:12] <murali> BluesKaj, sudo aptitude install pulseaudio, is this the command?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> murali, no don't install it yet...did you follow my post above kmenu/system/system settings/multimedia ..check for pulseaudio ?
[18:16] <seicherlbob> hi there! I've just installed lucid server and would like to setup a virtual server. I'm trying ubutnu-vm-builder, but nothing happens. can someone help me? I only know howto use virtualbox on my desktop.
[18:17] <ep__> kubuntu 10.04 amd 64, while upgrading i got a notification about installing flash and other proprietary stuff with a simple button click.  I decided to finish upgrading first but now the notice has disapeared.  I don't get a second chance at flash?   :-)
[18:17] <ep__> i rebooted also (new kernel)
[18:18] <murali> BluesKaj, thank you. but there is no option with the name Pulseaudio.
[18:19] <BluesKaj> ok murali , then install it and see if that helps
[18:19] <ep__> This is a fresh install. What's the easy method for the nvidia (proprietary) drivers?
[18:19] <ironbeard> ep: you can install flash via command line, i forget the command but it's googleable. sorry for indirect help
[18:19] <seraphim> but scrolling on the plasma-folder widget is smooth, why not on dolphin ??!!
[18:19] <BluesKaj> bbaib...some chores to do
[18:22] <BluesKaj> ep__, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:22] <murali> i am sorry BluesKaj, but still no audio
[18:23] <ep__> BluesKaj: thanks, i will,  but that notification had several packages (besides flash) on it.  It would be nice to have the notification back.
[18:24] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do - back in 20 mins
[18:25] <murali> Please help me. I am new to Kubuntu. I have installed mpalyer, vlc player, smplayer, real player. But there is no audio while playing video files. getting audio only while playing files in dragon player. please help
[18:26] <mweijts> BluesKaj:  I did a fresh install of Kubuntu and upgrade to KDE 4.5 every thing = oke ALSA is in Multimedia, after installing (X) Ubuntu-desktop, ALSA is gone, what is happening with ALSA ?
[18:26] <ironbeard> ep perhaps what you saw was a reference to the kubuntu-restricted-extras package.. do you know how to install it?
[18:29] <ep__> yeah, i do.  thanks.  it had about 5 packages.   Notifcations should keep a history IMO.    I need the nvida drivers too.  I forget the method.  I know it's easier than the old days :)
[18:29] <mweijts> All Alsa is installed but KDE did not recognised it after Xubuntu-desktop and Ubuntu-desktop, but after reinstalling Kubuntu desktop all notifications are working
[18:30] <mweijts> but still no alsa in multimedia
[18:30] <ironbeard> haha yeah. sorry i dont have nvidia so i cant help you there. im not sure if there is a log for notifications..
[18:31] <murali> Please help me. I am new to Kubuntu. I have installed mpalyer, vlc player, smplayer, real player. But there is no audio while playing video files. getting audio only while playing files in dragon player. please help
[18:32] <ironbeard> murali: what type of video files are you playing? flash? mp4? avi? etc..
[18:34] <murali> ironbeard, i am trying to play pm4, avi, flv..... while playing video files with dragin player everything is fine but there is no audio while playin with other players
[18:34] <vot> should my kubuntu startup be saying skilling profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.bin.firefox
[18:35] <vot> er skipping
[18:35] <murali> ironbeard, permission to chat!!!!
[18:36] <ironbeard> does amarok work? system beeps? what about  system sounds while playing a video on dragonplayer?
[18:37] <murali> ironbeard, audio is normal
[18:37] <ep__> I got another stupid question on 10.04 there's  a folder view "Desktop Folder"  widget on my desktop.  I'd like to  put application shortcuts in this folder widget instead of just on the desktop.  It looks neater.  Is this possible as I'm not discovering a technique to do it.  Seems hard.
[18:38] <ironbeard> murali; type alsamixer in command line..is everything turned up?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> ep__, , whynot just right click on the app in the kmenu and "add to panel"
[18:39] <ep__> Its real easy to put application launcher icons on the desktop but putting inside that "Desktop Folder" instead seems tricky.  I guess it's not designed for this
[18:39] <murali> comand line in the sense Konsole?
[18:40] <ironbeard> ep if youre doing that, you need to put the files in your /home/username/ folder.. the widget just links to a folder in your filesystem
[18:40] <ironbeard> murali yes
[18:40] <ep__> I dunno BluesKaj, I think I like a unclutered panel leaving space for minimized applications
[18:41] <BluesKaj> ep__,, well you just choose the most used apps :)
[18:41] <murali> Ironbeard, hey somthng came up .
[18:41] <ironbeard> murali yep
[18:41] <murali> Ironbread, wats next?
[18:42] <ironbeard> murali: you can adust the faders with your arrowkeys, are they all turned up?
[18:43] <ep__> yeah :)  actually i do.  I wanted to put a calculater and an occasionly used apps in on the desktop ---  If I get it into that folder, it won't look a windows desktop :P
[18:43] <ep__> anyway i'll try what ironbeard said
[18:43] <ep__> thanks
[18:43] <murali> ironbeard, i have to increase all the columns?
[18:43] <BluesKaj> murali, go back to multimedia / music , highlight the selections and click on the test button  , to check your audio output
[18:44] <ironbeard> ep you can use dolphin to manipulate that folder, i forget how you choose which folder the widget accesses though..im sure it's customizable
[18:45] <ironbeard> murali this is just something that worked for me, i turned up all the master settings, but im not sure if it'll address  your problem.. id listen to blueskaj
[18:45] <murali> Blueskaj, there are two names in tht category. One is working and the other is not working
[18:47] <murali> Blueskaj, What to do next?
[18:47] <Unksi> anyone know how to make krunner show multiple entries in kde 4.5 like it did in previous releases? now it shows only a single entry at a time, which is quite annoying
[18:48] <BluesKaj> ironbeard, you were corrct to suggest alsamixer or kmix settings , murali , make sure alsamixer in the konsole has the audio ctrls turned up past 90% and no Ms in the boxes , use the M key to unmute any ctrls you wish to use , master , line , pcm etc.
[18:49] <BluesKaj> murali, type alsamixer in the konsole to bring it up
[18:49] <ironbeard> right on
[18:51] <murali> BluesKaj, Iron Beard.  I have doen it. i have raised everything up. still no audio with other players
[18:51] <BluesKaj> murali, did you install pulseaudio ?
[18:51] <murali> yes
[18:53] <BluesKaj> ok murali remove it , sometimes it's needed and others not ...depends on your setup , sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio , in the konsole
[18:54] <BluesKaj> muesli, it doesn't hurt to experiment by adding or removing apps that may or may not work on your setup.
[18:55] <murali> BluesKaj and Ironbeard, thank you very much. its working
[18:56] <BluesKaj> ok murali , good :)
[18:56] <murali> BluesKaj, Ironbeard. You have been very helpful. thanks a lot.
[18:57] <ironbeard> yay
[18:57] <BluesKaj> you're welcome murali , glad to have it working :)
[18:57] <ironbeard> that's weird.. i dont think i caught what the problem was haha
[18:58] <alvin> Unksi: You can drag to bottom border of the krunner windo to enlarge it
[18:58] <murali> Ironbeard, But the problesolved. thts wat matters.
[18:58] <BluesKaj> audio on linux can be very hit and miss , hence somewwhat frustrating at times
[18:59] <murali> BluesKaj, i started using it frm this morning itself
[18:59] <murali> Blueskaj, could u please help on installing games in it please.
[18:59] <ironbeard> sure enough. alright, later guys
[19:00] <ep__> I want to do the proprietary nvidia drivers.   How do I go about that?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> murali,  sorry , I'm not a gamer
[19:00] <BluesKaj> !games | murali
[19:01] <BluesKaj> ep__, which nvidia card
[19:01] <murali> BluesKaj, Thank you.
[19:01] <ep__> hmm,  I've forgotten :(
[19:02] <ep__> might need to probe it
[19:02] <BluesKaj> ep__, lspci | grep VGA
[19:02] <ep__> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)
[19:03] <ep__> it doesn't have a fan :-)   Quiet sucker
[19:05] <murali> BluesKaj, please tell me how to install gnome.
[19:05] <BluesKaj> ep__, open jockey in kmenu/system/hardware drivers
[19:06] <BluesKaj> murali, sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[19:07] <ep__> BluesKaj: done, looks Like theres two choices
[19:08] <ep__> one say recomended, might the logical choice :)
[19:08] <ep__> *might be
[19:08] <BluesKaj> murali, then when you login you can choose either gnome or kde (kubuntu) in the menu for your session
[19:08] <murali> bluesKaj, how much time will take to install n will it slow down the system?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> ep__, yes choose the recommended one , it has the right driver for your card
[19:10] <BluesKaj> murali, it won't slow your system, not noticable
[19:12] <murali> Blueskaj, how much will it take to install? my internet speed is 500kbps
[19:12] <BluesKaj> murali, not more than 20 mins at your speed
[19:13] <BluesKaj> it took me 15mins at 750kbs
[19:13] <murali> BluesKaj, Thank you. Please suggest antivirus for kubuntu
[19:14] <BluesKaj> !virus | murali
[19:21] <ep__> holy cow -- chromimum browser is snappy fast -- more so than firefox
[19:22] <ep__> i like the firefox icon better though ;)  It's cool
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ep__, FF used to be my fav , but so far I'm sold mon chromium..it's more flexible and leaner
[19:27] <ep__> i tend to agree
[19:28] <ep__> gonna miss that fox icon ;)
[19:28] <BluesKaj> unfortuntely success has bloated FF
[19:28] <BluesKaj> I still have FF , but seldom use it
[19:29] <ep__> yeah i installed it too.  Right now chromium is the default
[19:29] <BluesKaj> anyway , time to go do some work , BBL
[19:32] <ep__> cu, thanks for the tips
[19:38] <blip99> hi, I have a major usability problem with Kubuntu on my laptop.  My thinkpad brightness buttons work fine, but when the machine is idle is like 30 seconds then brightness resets to a very low value.  this doesn't happen if I login to a fluxbox or openbox session - only in KDE.    I disabled LCD power management with the KDE power tool - what could be causing this ?
[19:48] <ToxinPowe> its safe upgrade to kde 4.5 with backports ppa or better wait?
[19:50] <ToxinPowe> anyone plz?
[19:57] <mkrista> its running fine here on kbuntu 64bit
[19:57] <psynautic> blip99 i noticed the same thing with my thinkpad edge
[19:57] <ToxinPowe> MrDarkUser: ok
[19:57] <psynautic> it only happens when it's running off battery
[19:57] <ToxinPowe> mkrista: ok
[19:57] <ToxinPowe> sry
[20:05] <blip99> psynautic: with me it happens both on AC and off.  Doesn't in fluxbox, so must be KDE software that does it
[20:05] <psynautic> interesting
[20:16] <Makuseru> Im having some problems with audio over HDMI, (HP G60, Nvidia 8200M, Kubuntu 10.04) anyone know how I can get sound over hdmi working?
[20:20] <RyRy-33> would it be here where i would ask questions about kopete? i have an issue connecting with the yahoo chat using kopete 1.0.0 / kde 4.4.5
[20:24] <RyRy-33> grr, never mind, i just fixed it... simple mistake, i just needed to take out @yahoo.com at the end of the user name... bye for now...
[20:27] <psynautic> Makuseru: are you using pulseaudio, or just stock kubuntu?
[20:27] <Makuseru> psynautic: just a regular install
[20:28] <psynautic> hmm, i had issues getting it to work with hdmi out, vs. optical out, but i have a ati integrated situation
[20:29] <psynautic> ultimately i had to make sure asound.conf had the right device
[20:33] <Makuseru> psynautic: asound.conf has 0,3 as my device
[20:33] <Makuseru> which is what aplay -l says is the hdmi out.
[20:33] <Makuseru> but when i go into alsamixer, i cant find the hdmi section
[20:34] <psynautic> hmm
[20:34] <psynautic> there may be a problem with your nvidia / xorg settings
[20:34] <psynautic> im not familiar with how they get setup, because i dont have nvidia
[20:34] <psynautic> hdmi is setup through the ati video drivers for me
[20:36] <psynautic> oh yea, always make sure nothing is muted
[20:36] <psynautic> that gets everyone
[20:36] <UgaUga> hello, I know the question is not directly here related but does anyone know how i would get the windows in wine to be changed using alt+tab
[20:37] <Makuseru> psynautic: Nothing is muter.
[20:37] <Makuseru> muted*
[20:37] <psynautic> you can't get sound out of aplay or anything for that matter?
[20:37] <Makuseru> Not over hdmi.
[20:38] <psynautic> what version of alsa is on your machine?
[20:38] <Makuseru> how can i check?
[20:40] <psynautic> cat /proc/asound/version
[20:40] <Makuseru> 1.0.23
[20:43] <psynautic> that's sufficiently new
[20:44] <psynautic> hm not sure
[21:17] <seicherlbob> can someone help me out with kvm? its running and i get vnc control, but i get no network connection in or outbound. I have br0 configured to bridge eth0, but all i get on outbound ping from the guest is: martian source $hostIP from $guestIP, on dev tap01
[21:22] <tawd> i have kde 4.4.2 and i've accidently deleted my bottom menu, is there an easy way to recover it?
[21:23] <omar> clik add grafic and menu
[21:23] <tawd> where do i do that
[21:25] <well_laid_lawn> !panel
[21:26] <omar> In the panel rigth click/panel options/add/MenuK :D
[21:27] <omar> Actualizaciones KDE bloqueadas, alguien le pasa lo mismo, o si ya lo sluciono????
[21:29] <tawd> omar, i'm using kde 4.4.2, and when i right click the panel it has "add widget, add panel, lock wedgets, panel settings, and remove this panel"
[21:29] <Torch> tawd: add widget
[21:29] <Torch> tawd: then pick the application launcher
[21:32] <omar> TAWD: drag the aplicatiion launches(KDE icon) to the bar, in the preferred position
[21:38] <omar> KDE 4.5 updates blocked, someone has got it all, or if you already solution??
[21:41] <Torch> omar: use dist-upgrade
[22:00] <omar> Touch: thanks, is working :D
[22:03] <FireCrotch> Hi everyone... I have a bug to file concerning setting up dual monitors in Kubuntu. Basically the "right of" or "left of" setting doesnt work properly in system settings.  What package should this bug be filed on? Is it an X problem?
[22:13] <blip99> does powerdevil come with 10.4 ?  it doesn't show up in my services manager
[22:16] <well_laid_lawn> !find powerdevil
[22:27] <blip99> well_laid_lawn: It doesn't show up in my services manager though
[22:28] <well_laid_lawn> blip99: it looks like 10.04 has a file named powerdevil - I don't think that's a daemon
[22:28] <well_laid_lawn> !info powerdevil
[22:28] <well_laid_lawn> !lag
[22:29] <well_laid_lawn> bots gone for a coffee...
[22:30] <well_laid_lawn> blip99: in konsole you can try   apt-cache search powerdevil
[22:40] <blip99> well_laid_lawn: hmm I don't have such a package... odd.  you're on kubuntu 10.4 too ?
[22:40] <blip99> *04
[22:42] <well_laid_lawn> blip99: not atm
[22:46] <amichair> what would be the best way to transfer a system partition onto a new hard disk (and be able to boot from it)?
[22:55] <alvin> amichair: dd
[22:58] <blip99> hi all, can anyone using kubuntu confirm that it came with Powerdevil installed ?
[22:59] <James147> blip99: powerdevil is part of kde now ^^
[23:00] <James147> (so to answer your question: yes)
[23:00] <blip99> James147: that's what I thought, but it's not on my system.  I installed KDE4.5 from PPA's.  I checked Service Manager, it doesn't show up
[23:01] <blip99> i'm thinking not having it may be causing my screen brightness to magically reset to lowest setting after 30 seconds idle
[23:01] <James147> blip99: "powermanagment" there>?
[23:01] <blip99> problem only happens under KDE, not within fluxbox on same OS
[23:02] <blip99> James147: yes, is that it ?
[23:02] <James147> blip99: yeah
[23:02] <James147> (or at least I have that and nothing named "powerdevil")
[23:03] <blip99> hmm ok.  I'm going to disable power management - really bad move on a laptop - but i can't use it when it resets while i'm reading something
[23:03] <blip99> James147: ye for someone else it showed powerdevil explicitly
[23:03] <James147> blip99: have you checked its settings yet? (system settings > power managment)
[23:03] <James147> blip99: might have been an older version...
[23:04] <blip99> James147: ye been playing with settings for a month :D   disabled "display power management" and "dim on idle" etc... tried a custom profile ...
[23:05]  * James147 remembers having a similar problem... that went away by its self
[23:05] <blip99> James147: this "power managment" is a KDE specific tool, not cpufreq and powernow etc right ?
[23:05] <James147> blip99: could you try a enw uyser see if they suffer from the same problem?
[23:05] <James147> blip99: as far as I know "Power Managment" is what use to be "Power Devil"
[23:06] <blip99> maybe it's a bug relating to the kde power managment module and my laptop's very recent hardware /Nvidia FX880M card
[23:06] <blip99> James147: cool, i'll try disabling as well as new user now.  thanks.
[23:11] <avihay> any major showstoppers in kde4.5?
[23:12] <James147> avihay: not perticaully, although I dont really use kontact/kmail...
[23:14] <nerdy_kid> avihay everything is good here. i use kmail also.
[23:15] <avihay> any issues with dolphin taking absurd amounts of memory?
[23:16] <amichair> alvin: can you elaborate? what exactly do I need to do?
[23:20] <avihay> I'll take the silence as a now
[23:20] <avihay> no*
[23:20] <avihay> I wonder if kwin has become fast enough to use on an Intel card
[23:20]  * avihay goes to upgrade
[23:21] <ep> avihay well the black screen I got on the upgrade was a showstopper :)
[23:21] <avihay> critical? revert-able?
[23:22] <James147> avihay: I have been using kde on my netbook with a intel card without issue ^^
[23:22] <blip99> James147: yep new user solved the problem :)   really odd given I had the issue since I first installed Linux (kub 10.04) on the laptop.   any chance you'd know which file contains power management settings in my home dir so I can delete it ?
[23:23] <James147> blip99: looking now... (did you install it with a clean home drive though?)
[23:23] <blip99> ah found it i think
[23:23] <avihay> effects on my laptop with an intel GMA965 are less then satisfactory (30 FPS ish)
[23:24] <avihay> compiz gives me 56-60 FPS
[23:24] <blip99> ~/.kde/share/config/powerdevilrc and powerdevilprofilerc
[23:24] <James147> blip99: ~/.kde/share/config/powerdevil* look about right :)
[23:25] <James147> blip99: dam beat me to it jsut :)
[23:25] <avihay> xcompmanager works great but it doesn't like VLC, and it doesn't have the extra value of the others
[23:25] <blip99> James147: yep on new hardware, It could be that something I upgraded recently fixed this bug but the old setting kept it occuring - must have been new nvidia driver or new KDE4.5
[23:25] <blip99> James147: :D
[23:38] <blip99> James147: problem solved. thanks :)    one last thing, shall I remove the KDE PPA repos after I've installed 4.5 - or keep it for updates ?
[23:39] <James147> blip99: I would keep just incase there are fixes for things
[23:39] <James147> there wont really be anything major added to it now...
[23:42] <frxstrem> is it possible to set the KDE clock to 24-hour instead of 12-hour?
[23:43] <frxstrem> also, I keep getting these messages: "Staring KTTSD failed", any ideas why?
[23:43] <James147> frxstrem: yes, need to change that in the reagon and launguage part of system settings thoug
[23:44] <frxstrem> James147: okay, thanks :)
[23:44] <James147> frxstrem: probally because kttsd failed to start :)
[23:44] <frxstrem> I figured it out - KTTSD wasn't installed :P
[23:44] <frxstrem> installing it fixed it :P
[23:44] <James147> frxstrem: kttsd is the text to speech engine, not working terriblly well atm though :)
[23:45] <khem> QApt batch installer does not accept my password and I can not install firefox on latest maverick
[23:45] <khem> anyone seeing it
[23:45] <James147> khem: ubuntu+1 for maverick support
[23:45] <James147> khem: #ubuntu+1 ^^
[23:45] <khem> thx
[23:48] <AZGINN> hi
[23:57] <frxstrem> is Opera Web Browser compatible with Kubuntu and KDE? 'cause I just keep getting a black window when I switch minimize it and then restore it