[00:04] <DanaG> Say, is ltsp client on Maverick supposed to show plymouth?
[00:09] <DanaG> ah, ltsp-localapps
[01:53] <jdobrien> doh...the current CD image has a bug :( stuck at Retrieving file 18 of 18 :(
[02:27] <jamesw> hi
[02:27] <jamesw> i'm having trouble with latest nvidia binary on maverick, can someone suggest a solution, please?
[02:58] <peepingtom> Is the transition to xorg server 1.9 going to be very painful for users of proprietary drivers, or will the big changes live in the proposed repository until it's relatively stable?....or some other way
[02:59] <coz_> peepingtom,  mm good question actually... have you asked on #ubuntu+1
[02:59] <coz_> peepingtom,  sorry  this is #ubuntu +1
[02:59] <coz_> peepingtom,   must be tired here
[03:12] <charlie-tca> peepingtom: don't really know. Something is causing pain for those using nvidia hardware drivers, though.
[03:16] <Offoffoff> Wow. 187 users using Maverick.
[03:18] <bjsnider> with nvidia you've got to have ignoreabi in the xorg.conf file
[04:04] <Offoffoff> Does xorg.conf still exist in Maverick?
[04:06] <charlie-tca> only if you create it
[04:06] <charlie-tca> well, actually, hardware drivers will also create it if needed.
[04:06] <charlie-tca> Nvidia usually does
[05:11] <Kai_> Volkodav: I have sat out a day or two :P
[05:13] <Kai_> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.   :(
[05:14] <Volkodav> Kai_: as far as I know the xserver issue is not resolved with nvidia proprietary driver - but I was not quite following for the last 2 days but if you do not that driver you should be ok to upgrade I think
[05:15] <Offoffoff> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMTDt1zyD6M&feature=related - Is this dangerous for Ubuntu?
[05:15] <Kai_> i use that driver :P
[05:16] <Volkodav> so do I so my uptime is 5 days so far
[05:17] <Kai_> should I uninstall the driver and reinstall after upgrading to maverick?
[05:20] <Volkodav> No - while upgrading chances are you will be switched to either nv or nouveau
[05:20] <Volkodav> that's all
[05:20] <Kai_> I can't upgrade because of that error :(
[05:20] <Volkodav> so the system should be operational but without proprietary drivers
[05:21] <Volkodav> Oh - then you wait
[05:21] <Kai_> ...
[05:21] <Kai_> When will things work? >_>
[05:22] <Volkodav> when the new xorg will work with nvidia drivers - there is a minor glitch really and nothing major from what I heard
[05:22] <Volkodav> so it should be soon
[05:23] <Kai_> Is there a version that works in any vcs anywhere?
[05:24] <Volkodav> not sure
[06:20] <litropy> hey, guys - I'm looking for the gnome theme manager and I can't find it, so I'm just looking for the command to run
[07:34] <Offoffoff> litropy: gtk-window-decorator --replace
[09:47] <ccooke> So, maverick is really quite broken this morning
[09:48] <ccooke> nvidia and network manager on here are unusable
[09:51] <om26er> use indicator-network, dump nvidia ;)
[09:54] <ccooke> om26er: nouveau doesn't support compiz yet :-)
[09:55] <ccooke> and indicator-network isn't installed.
[12:00] <vish> did anyone get unity working on a Virtualbox?
[12:39] <smallfoot-> anyone have problem that when Ubuntu starts, it sound is muted?
[12:39] <smallfoot-> then i have to unmute it everytime?
[12:40] <Ian_corne> Always have it too
[12:40] <Ian_corne> No idea where it comes from
[12:40] <Ian_corne> on my 3rd box I even have to use pavucontrol because invisible channels are muted
[12:41] <Ian_corne> It's been like that since lucid for me
[12:55] <dholbach> Packaging Training Session: Patch Review and Operation Cleansweep in #ubuntu-classroom in 5 minutes
[15:09] <gnomefreak> anyone using nvidia-current and system is using the nouveau drivers?
[15:30] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, i have explained how to fix your issue
[15:36] <bjsnider> nvidia-graphics-drivers 256.44 supports xserver 1.9 but you need to manually add
[15:36] <bjsnider> Option "IgnoreABI" "true"
[15:36] <bjsnider> to the serverflags section of your xorg.conf
[16:43] <Volkodav> so nvidia-graphics-drivers 256.44  has to come from their site ? I do not see them in the repos
[16:45] <yofel> Volkodav: ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[16:46] <Volkodav> oh - it is in the ppa - thanks yofel
[16:59] <sinurge> hi i installed the latest nvidia drivers as post and upgrade X fails to load...however still x does not seem to load an xorg.o.log shows the driver as 173 still how do i get this changed
[17:19] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: what was it that you explained with nvidia (if it means removing the xorg.conf that does not fix the issue
[17:20] <gnomefreak> )
[17:21] <DrHalan> anyone have a working xß
[17:22] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, reinstall nvidia-current using joackey. when you have a xorg.conf, ping me
[17:22] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: ok
[17:23] <bjsnider> pastbein the xorg.conf
[17:23] <bjsnider> i can't spell today at all
[17:23] <gnomefreak> i understand it since i cant spell at all
[17:24] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: do i need to restart after disabling -current than after reinstalling it
[17:24] <bjsnider> not yet
[17:25] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: what kernel should i do it with
[17:25] <bjsnider> the one you want to use
[17:26] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: will upgrading from .11 to .14 be ok after the workaround? or do i need to do it over again
[17:27] <bjsnider> it will be fine. dkms will install the module int he new kernel
[17:27] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: ok cool.
[17:28] <gnomefreak> ill be back in a few. its still removing
[17:32] <vish> has anyone tried unity on a VM ?
[17:37] <gnomefreak> jockey wont run :(
[17:37] <bjsnider> what do you mean
[17:37] <gnomefreak> keeps crashing
[17:38] <gnomefreak> now it crashes before it draws the window
[17:38] <bjsnider> well, just do an apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:39] <DrHalan> is nvidia-currrent working with 1.9?
[17:39] <DrHalan> for me it doesnt...-
[17:39] <gnomefreak> i may have to :(
[17:40] <gnomefreak> DrHalan: not really that is what we are working on atm
[17:40] <DrHalan> okay
[17:40] <DrHalan> is there a way to run at least novueau? my machine gets stuck at plymouth wheter or not nvidia-* is installed
[17:41] <gnomefreak> DrHalan: bjsnider is going through the steps with me
[17:41] <gnomefreak> you have been here long enough to see the start of it
[17:42] <DrHalan> yeah but i did allt his
[17:42] <DrHalan> i also use the x edgers packages to have a more recent nouveau
[17:42] <DrHalan> erm not noveau i mean nvidia-current ofc
[17:42] <gnomefreak> running x edgers may be your issue
[17:44] <DrHalan> lol maybe
[17:44] <DrHalan> yesterday i was told to try xedgers
[17:44] <DrHalan> because nvidia-current from maverick didn't work either
[17:44] <gnomefreak> or you are suffering the same as i was and it works around by removing xorg.conf kind of ironic since i am making one to get -current running
[17:45] <gnomefreak> DrHalan: nvidia-current + 2.6.35.14 failed to work for me i filed a bug on it
[17:46] <DrHalan> gnomefreak: so you stll use 256.32ß
[17:46] <DrHalan> because xedgers has 256.44
[17:47] <gnomefreak> its not working atm with .11 i have stayed away from .14 since it failed to give me a tty
[17:47] <gnomefreak> noveau is working atm
[17:47] <ccooke> gnomefreak: "working"
[17:47] <gnomefreak> hopfully once i get this done it will work
[17:48] <ccooke> (It won't do flash video full-screen, for instance)
[17:48] <DrHalan> well flash is not useing the gpu at all afaik
[17:48] <bjsnider> nobody has fullscreen flash on linux
[17:48] <DrHalan> gnomefreak so nouveau works for you under 1.9
[17:49] <DrHalan> bjsnider: why not? if oyur cpu is fast enough
[17:49] <gnomefreak> DrHalan: well its a pre release atm i think
[17:50] <gnomefreak> DrHalan: X.Org X Server 1.8.99.905 (1.9.0 RC 5)
[17:52] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: http://pastebin.com/VW348r7t
[17:52] <DrHalan> mh im gone till monday anyways. hope my xserver works again then...
[17:52] <DrHalan> the new theem is awesome
[17:52] <DrHalan> anyone knows when the font is publically avaible?
[17:54] <gnomefreak> thaqt looks like it should
[17:54] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/gmWeATrX
[17:54] <bjsnider> use that one instead
[17:55] <gnomefreak> k
[17:55] <bjsnider> ls -l /etc/alternatives/gl_conf
[17:55] <bjsnider> what does that command give you?
[17:56] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: do i restart now?
[17:56] <bjsnider> not yet
[17:56] <bjsnider> run the command above
[17:57] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Aug 12 12:50 /etc/alternatives/gl_conf -> /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf
[17:57] <bjsnider> good
[17:57] <bjsnider> and dkms status?
[17:57] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: how do i find it
[17:57] <bjsnider> i mean run dkms status
[17:58] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: nvidia-current, 256.35, 2.6.35-11-generic, i686: installed
[17:58] <tr2123> Is there any way to enable 3D with Nouveau in Maverick?
[17:58] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, that is the kernel you're planning on booting?
[17:59] <Daekdroom> -11 is too old
[17:59] <gnomefreak> tr2123: nouveau is not 3d you needd to install nvidia-current or one of the other options in jockey
[17:59] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: i was going to upgrade the kernel once i get nvidia worked out
[17:59] <gnomefreak> .11 works though
[17:59] <bjsnider> alright then reboot
[17:59] <tr2123> gnomefreak: Yes, it has 3D capabilities that are working just fine in Fedora Rawhide, and my whole point is to test out the open-source drivers, not just install the proprietary ones
[18:00] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: upgrade first i take it
[18:00] <bjsnider> you can install updates afterwards
[18:00] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: ok be back in a few
[18:00] <gnomefreak> i hope
[18:00] <Daekdroom> tr2123, those 3D capabilities are done through the gallium driver, and I don't think ubuntu ships it.
[18:00] <gnomefreak> we dont
[18:00] <gnomefreak> brb
[18:01] <tr2123> Daekdroom: Oh well, thanks anyway
[18:01] <funkyHat> Agh. aptitude wants to remove 217 packages
[18:01] <Pici> I suggest not doing it.
[18:01] <Pici> Or... do it and blame someone here, that works too.
[18:02] <funkyHat> I pick... Pici!
[18:02] <Pici> Yay
[18:04] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: nope i got dropped into TTY
[18:04] <gnomefreak> no X
[18:04]  * gnomefreak going for smoke, im sure removing xorg.conf will gring me back to X
[18:06] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, you may need to use the 256.44 driver for this
[18:07] <DrHalan> bjsnider: as i said with 256.44 i still don't have a working X
[18:07] <bjsnider> yes but the xorg.conf file has to be amended
[18:08] <bjsnider> http://pastebin.com/gmWeATrX
[18:08] <bjsnider> that one has to be used
[18:09] <gnomefreak> did i use that one? sorry i have to type the full url in lynx or links
[18:11] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: that looks like the one i have
[18:11] <bjsnider> no, dkms says you have 256.35
[18:11] <DrHalan> bjsnider: i guess the "NoABI"-Option is the difference
[18:12] <bjsnider> that's right
[18:12] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: that is the one i have
[18:12] <bjsnider> the nvidia driver contains code that disabled it if it sees an unknown x server version
[18:12] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, nvidia-current, 256.35, 2.6.35-11-generic, i686: installed
[18:13] <bjsnider> you need to get the 256.44 driver
[18:13] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: i know i give you the output
[18:13] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: thats in edgers repo
[18:13] <gnomefreak> repo -> PPA
[18:14] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: im guessing you want me to uncomment that PPA
[18:14] <bjsnider> it's also in x-updates
[18:14] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: in teh ubuntu archives?
[18:15] <bjsnider> just use the more conservative x-updates for now
[18:15] <gnomefreak> s/teh/the
[18:15] <bjsnider> no, that's a ppa
[18:15] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: i have not heard of that
[18:15] <bjsnider> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[18:15] <gnomefreak> thanks ill add it but it will take a bit
[18:15] <bjsnider> you must have a slow computer
[18:16] <bjsnider> that'll learn you for using AMD hardware
[18:18] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: i have to type the URL i cant copy and paste between TTYs
[18:18] <DrHalan1> worked
[18:18] <DrHalan1> thanks bjsnider
[18:18] <bjsnider> the nvidia driver works for you now?
[18:18] <DrHalan1> the new theme is so beautiful *.*
[18:18] <DrHalan1> yeah
[18:18] <DrHalan1> but i use 256.44
[18:18] <bjsnider> what is the result of glxinfo?
[18:19] <gnomefreak> bkis there a - between +archive/xupdates or x-updates
[18:19] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: ^^
[18:19] <DrHalan1> display: :0  screen: 0
[18:19] <DrHalan1> direct rendering: Yes
[18:19] <DrHalan1> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[18:19] <DrHalan1> server glx version string: 1.4
[18:20] <DrHalan1> looks fine
[18:20] <bjsnider> yep, it's working
[18:20] <DrHalan1> compiz works at 1900x1200 so im pretty sure it works
[18:20] <DrHalan1> thats awesome
[18:20] <bjsnider> have you written forum posts on ubuntuforums.org before?
[18:20] <DrHalan1> me? i don't have an account there iirc
[18:20] <bjsnider> that sucks
[18:21] <DrHalan1> why?
[18:21] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, not sure what you're asking
[18:21] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: my screen got cut off at xupdates. should it be x-updates or xupdates
[18:22] <gnomefreak> the last part of the PPA link
[18:22] <bjsnider> ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[18:22] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: thanks
[18:23] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: the link you gave me has ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[18:24] <gnomefreak> it is malformed line
[18:24] <bjsnider> that was just a link to the webpage
[18:24] <gnomefreak> can you please post the full PPA line so i can add it
[18:24] <bjsnider> just run the ppa command. that's the easiest way
[18:24] <bjsnider> sudo ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[18:25] <gnomefreak> ok ill try it
[18:25] <kim0> hey folks ... I dist-upgraded and rebooted //
[18:25] <kim0> now I lost my X
[18:26] <kim0> nvidia with binary driver
[18:26] <DrHalan1> lol
[18:26] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[18:26] <gnomefreak> kim0: nvidia im guessssing
[18:26] <kim0> gnomefreak: yep
[18:26] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, i'm going to get you to write a forum post about this
[18:26]  * kim0 is in :s mode
[18:28] <gnomefreak> no one has posted one? i would think someone already posted one since it is suck a big issue
[18:29] <kim0> is there a solution to the nvidia/x problem ?
[18:29] <gnomefreak> ill be back in a bit
[18:29] <gnomefreak> kim0: yes working on my fix atm
[18:29] <bjsnider> then why are people flooding this channel complaining about it?
[18:29] <gnomefreak> hell if i know. lazy maybe?
[18:29] <gnomefreak> brb
[18:29] <kim0> is everyone here talking about this nvidia problem ? :)
[18:30] <bjsnider> i'm tired of it
[18:31] <bjsnider> kim0, here is the fix: add the x-updates ppa, install the 256.44 driver, alter /etc/X11/xorg.conf to this: http://pastebin.com/gmWeATrX
[18:31] <kim0> bjsnider: the important one is IgnoreABI right
[18:32] <bjsnider> yuh huh
[18:33] <DrHalan1> xD
[18:33] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: there are a few bugs on it. if you can find one please add the workaround and i will add it to the bot
[18:33] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: should i update kernel while im at it?
[18:33] <bjsnider> yeah, the kernel is not currently an issue so that's fine
[18:34] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: ok be back when updates are done. im sure there are a bunch of them > 25
[18:34] <kim0> bjsnider: add-apt-repository ppa:x-updates
[18:34] <gnomefreak> ill see
[18:34] <kim0> bjsnider: am I wrong on that ?
[18:34] <bjsnider> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[18:34] <kim0> thnx
[18:35] <gnomefreak> more like 35 ill will start dinner during update
[18:35] <bjsnider> your system is so slow
[18:35] <bjsnider> i wouldn't tolerate that
[18:37] <kim0> bjsnider: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/x-updates/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[18:38] <kim0> something wrong ?
[18:39] <bjsnider> you must have typed the add-apt line wrong
[18:40] <DrHalan1> is the nautilus bug fixed?
[18:40] <DrHalan1> maverick seems so much faster to me
[18:41] <Daekdroom> DrHalan1, which maverick bug?
[18:41] <Daekdroom> *nautilus
[18:41] <DrHalan1> nautilus had a memory leak for some time
[18:41] <Daekdroom> I think it still has.
[18:41] <DrHalan1> i occasionally did a "killall nautilus" so my machine worked fine again
[18:41] <DrHalan1> welll atles here its fast as hell
[18:42] <Daekdroom> I had to kill nautilus yesterday..
[18:43] <Daekdroom> It's using 50MB as of now. I think it's still not fixed.
[18:45] <Daekdroom> Hm.. Yeah. Definitely still leaking
[19:18] <DrHalan1> the new theme rocks ^^
[19:19] <Andre_Gondim> I agree
[19:19] <DrHalan1> there is just some spaceing missing at the top
[19:24] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: still dropped me into TTY
[19:25]  * gnomefreak going to try upstream drivers
[19:25] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, what are the actual errors?
[19:26] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: none that it gives me
[19:26] <gnomefreak> it goes through the loading crap than gives me a prompt
[19:28] <gnomefreak> i still dont even get plymouth, that is a long time bug
[19:28] <bjsnider> what happens if you try startx?
[19:31] <gnomefreak> nope upstream drivers dont work
[19:31]  * gnomefreak wont be writing the fourms
[19:31] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, from the tty, what happens if you manually give it the startx command?
[19:33] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: http://pastebin.com/mrxqtUhQ
[19:33] <gnomefreak> that is the log
[19:34] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, you have somehow failed to use the proper xorg.conf
[19:35] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: i gave you what i had
[19:36] <bjsnider> i pasted the url for the new one
[19:36] <bjsnider> did you replace it?
[19:36] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: yes than i posted it to show you
[19:36] <bjsnider> http://pastebin.com/gmWeATrX
[19:36] <bjsnider> paste it again
[19:37] <BUGabundo> evening
[19:38] <gnomefreak> give me a minute i have to type the URL
[19:38] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.com/e995yppF
[19:39] <gnomefreak> compare them and let me know since i cant paste between TTYs
[19:41]  * gnomefreak will figure out how to remove upstream drivers since they fail as well
[19:42] <gnomefreak> preinstalled script failed  i get that when running the installer. not re sure how to remove them anymore
[19:53] <gnomefreak> let me see if i can get back
[20:37] <DsXack> здравствуйте, после вчерашнего обновления перестал запускаться гдм. После удаления xorg.conf GDM работает нормально в low graphic mode
[20:37] <DsXack> Hello, after yesterday's update does not start GDM. After removing the xorg.conf GDM works fine in low graphic mode
[20:37] <DsXack> Ooops)
[20:38] <ZykoticK9> DsXack, i had to remove my nvidia-current to get Xorg straightened out again - running with Nouveau right now :(
[20:38] <ZykoticK9> DsXack, even without xorg.conf - "lspci -vnvn" was still show VGA driver in use as 'nvidia'
[20:41] <wechat> DsXack: hi
[20:42] <DsXack> ZykoticK9: ohh.... I'd rather use low graphic mode
[20:42] <DsXack> wechat: hihi)
[20:49] <wechat> I can't add a directory with music in Rhythmbox from menu. File -> Add directory -- I choose it -- press "Open" -- and oops -- nothing is changing and adding to playlist. This is for some days (3 probably). Drag & Drop is working. Is this a known problem with sqllite3?
[20:50] <wechat> smthng like this about Rhythmbox https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/35753
[20:53] <coz_> hey guys.. who would be the contact  for system sounds?
[20:58] <wechat> what's wrong coz_?
[21:00] <coz_> wechat,  nothing :)  I wanted to contact the right person(s)  for the new sounds
[21:00] <wechat> ok :)
[21:00] <coz_> wechat,  I already found the link to post new sounds  and was just wondering if "all" of the sounds are necessary or just a few
[21:02] <wechat> coz_ share with us
[21:02] <coz_> http://design.canonical.com/2010/08/ubuntu-needs-a-new-sound-theme/
[21:02] <coz_> apparenlty shuttleworth forgot about the new sounds in lucid :)
[21:03] <coz_> so there is a call for new sounds in maverick
[21:05] <wechat> omg I wanna all the orange style back
[21:05] <coz_> wechat,  :)  I dont think the system graphical theme is going to change
[21:05] <coz_> just the sounds
[21:06] <wechat> if it will be in the way like new font and logo -- I will be glad to support this
[21:06] <coz_> any issues with upgrading with  update-manager -d  from lucid to maverick at this point?? nvidia maybe??
[21:07] <coz_> wechat,  I have been saying  "get rid of the damn drums login sound " for about 5 years now
[21:07] <wechat> coz_: about nvidia read some posts higher --- and we all have ugly GDM now
[21:08] <wechat> coz_: I think drums are *stylish*
[21:08] <coz_> wechat,  ooo ok ... I will have to go on the other machine for scrollback
[21:09] <coz_> wechat,  eeewww  lol
[21:10] <wechat> coz_: :)
[21:11] <coz_> wechat,  the drums were fine for the first couple ubuntu versions... then I got rid of it or created my own
[21:12] <wechat> coz_: anyway it will be very interesting
[21:12] <coz_> wechat,  I think so as well... would be nice to have soothing sounds...if any... as long as it isnt like mac's  or windows :)
[21:12] <coz_> I always disable sounds on both of those :)
[21:13] <wechat> coz_: yes -- in ubuntu sounds are the best
[21:13] <coz_> wechat,  yes I definitly would take the "drums"  over any but  I hate the drums none the less... I even was going to post a bug  "" i have a major bug in ubuntu... i keep hearing drums when I log on :"
[21:45] <kim0> bjsnider: thanks man .. the nvidia fix thing worked
[21:45] <kim0> should I delete the x-swat repo now ?
[21:47] <bjsnider> it's up to you
[21:47] <bjsnider> i can't make those judgements
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> bjsnider, is there a solution to nvidia right now?  adding x-swat repo?  I assume this nvidia-issue will sort itself out soon... right?
[21:48] <bjsnider> the solution is a minor addition tot he xorg.conf file
[21:48] <bjsnider> http://pastebin.com/gmWeATrX
[21:49] <bjsnider> that is what it has to be
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> bjsnider, the Option  "IgnoreABI"     "true" line
[21:49] <bjsnider> and you need the 256.44 blob, which is in the x-updates ppa
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> bjsnider, ok thanks - i'll just deal with Nouveau for a while - don't really feel like using 3rd party repos on devel release.  Thanks though.
[21:50] <bjsnider> x-updates is an official repo by the ubuntu-x group, and it's very conservative
[21:52] <bjsnider> basically it's just driver updates
[22:49] <Daekdroom> There is something very weird going on
[22:49] <Daekdroom> safe-upgrade wants to install half KDE >.>
[22:50] <Daekdroom> dist-upgrade, on the other hand, works alright. I think it should be the other way.
[22:50] <BUGabundo> aahahah
[22:51] <Ian_corne> I've got kile installed
[22:51] <Ian_corne> and it sometimes drags in ALOT of kde
[23:46] <khem> QApt batch installer does not accept my password and I can not install firefox on latest maverick
[23:46] <khem> anyone seeing similar problem
[23:48] <khem> thats using kubuntu btw.