=== compiledkernel is now known as Guest6400 [01:12] hey i just got a kernel panic,.......where are the system logs located? [01:13] yvan300, /var/log I think [01:17] seidos, thanks, that was it === compiledkernel is now known as Guest38060 [04:20] I can't change directory. $ cd /home/user/Desktop doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? [04:21] holder: "user= your login name" [04:22] I will give as $ cd /home/devil/Desktop [04:22] holder: you are here? [04:22] IAmNotThatGuy: Yep, I know that, it's not working with my login name [04:23] do one thing. Use tab key to auto fill [04:24] when you press cd /, It will list the folders. Check whether you gave the name correctly [04:26] holder: is it working?? [04:26] holder: http://i38.tinypic.com/281ecms.png thats mine [04:26] IAmNotThatGuy: the tab trick is [04:27] IAmNotThatGuy: i'll screenshot [04:27] okay [04:30] IAmNotThatGuy: http://tinypic.com/r/2jb4k5s/4 [04:31] holder: press F [04:33] It finds the wrong file [04:34] instead of the iso it finds the original file [04:34] hey It will just load the directory [04:34] Not the .iso files [04:34] Actually it works [04:34] :o [04:35] Lol, thanks, the file was locked or something [04:35] okay good luck holder (: [04:53] holder: the problem is solved? [04:53] IAmNotThatGuy: Nope, but it's a problem within a problem [04:54] what happened holder? [04:55] I want to play a windows game on linux, but the install keeps failing and I don't know if the problem is with the file or wine === compiledkernel is now known as Guest30238 [04:59] awww.... === bootstrap is now known as bootstrap` [05:08] IAmNotThatGuy: How's your knowledge on wine? [05:08] of* [05:10] I am not that much good with wine as we don't prefer using wine holder [05:11] What do you prefer for windows applications? [05:13] actually what game you are trying to run? [05:13] we mostly find an alternate in linux environment [05:13] Football manager 2010 [05:13] ahha [05:14] go inside the folder and try right clicking foot.exe and select run with wine [05:14] I know that alone [05:16] I ll brb [05:42] holder, you got any solution? [05:48] Nope, but i'm in wine's irc channel working on it [05:49] Hey folks.How do I change themes, once I've found something I like? [05:51] jaybird, download that theme, right click the desktop, click change desktop background, click the themes tab [05:51] in that you canfind "install" button [05:51] jaybird, then you can select the theme and can Install them [05:52] jaybird, you there?? [05:52] yep, firefox just decided to conk out. [05:53] argh! [05:53] chrome it is.. [05:57] lol, guess it wasn't firefox then. My wireless says it's perfectly connected, but both of the browsers aren't working. just loading forever. [05:57] any idea what might be causing this? [05:58] open terminal and type ping www.google.com [05:58] the response time will tell your internet speed jaybird [05:59] PING google.com (173.194.33.104) 56(84) bytes of data. [05:59] 64 bytes from 173.194.33.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=29.1 ms [06:00] jaybird, hmmmm 29.1 ms [06:00] It seems to be working again, but I noticed lately it'll just stop working for what appears to be no reason. Like even when the wireless is fine. [06:02] what's the issue jaybird [06:02] My internet keeps conking out [loading forever, until I restart], even though the wireless has full bars [06:03] jaybird: you mean it takes a lot of time to connect? or websites load very slowly? [06:04] Oh, when it gets like that, sites won't even load at all. [06:05] jaybird: are you able to ping at least. I had a similar issue but it was some trouble with DNS queries. The browser just kept showing "looking up somewebsite.com" [06:06] yes, that exactly. I was able to ping [06:06] how can I solve the problem, if that's the issue? [06:07] jaybird: lets see if that is the issue. run this command "dig lifehacker.com". In the output you will see a line "Query time". What time does it shows? [06:08] 66 msec [06:08] jaybird: thats decent. DNS doesn't seem to be a problem here. At the moment, it even seems that your network is working fine [06:09] jaybird: are you able to load websites now? [06:09] Yep, I'm able to load them right now. But the problem seems to happen randomly... [06:10] jaybird: Does reconnecting the network helps then? [06:10] Yes. [06:13] I just wish I could get to the root of the problem so I wouldn't be reconnecting all the time... [06:13] jaybird: I am not sure what is the issue now, but when your network goes down again, use "tail -n 20 /var/log/syslog". this will show you the last 20 lines of system log. We might be able to find our some clue there [06:13] jaybird: btw, how often does this happen? [06:13] It's happened three times within the past...4 hours, maybe? But will do. [06:15] jaybird, when the problem comes again, try the ping command [06:15] that will tell you whether you are connected or not [06:16] jaybird: you can even use "tail -f /var/log/syslog" to see the most recent log. So, as soon as you discover that the connection is lost, you can immediately look for some hint in the logs. I can't guarantee that it will help, but it usually does [06:16] if it is working now, then we cant find the exact problem [06:16] jaybird: yes, and try the "dig " command too, check the Query time. [06:16] as you said both firefox and chrome has the same problem, it must be the problem of the network or the wireless [06:17] Ohh, okay. That's understandable. Also, this laptop had wireless issues for a while now. Back when it was running windows the wireless didn't work at all. So it could be a hardware issue. [06:18] jaybird: yes, that could be a h/w issue. [06:22] Oh btw, now that my internet's working again, I installed the theme I wanted without a problem. :) thank you! [06:22] [that was my initial issue] [11:51] morning all === JMS is now known as JoeMaverickSett === Mohan_chml is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [14:52] What version of Ubuntu do I need to get to run on a 64-bit Atom processor, the front page download 64-bit option gives me 10.04-desktop-amd64.iso. is that the right one even though I'm using an Intel processor? === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohan_chml [14:59] Good morning all [14:59] I have a newbie question am hoping someone can help me with. [15:00] I am trying to find the .ssh directory and cannot seem to find it. I did an "ls -a" on both / and /root [15:01] robs1, cd ~ [15:01] robs1, it's full unexpanded name is ~/.ssh [15:01] Tallon, its okay to download and Install.. [15:01] heya paultag [15:01] Mohan_chml, heyya [15:02] Oh great [15:02] you're welcome robs1 [15:02] paultag, I am afraid robs1 didn't watch ya :P [15:02] :) [15:02] lol [15:03] paultag, your turn (: [15:03] robs1, did you get my last message? [15:03] Nope...I got disconnected for some reason [15:03] robs1, cd ~ [15:03] robs1, it's full unexpanded name is ~/.ssh [15:03] @Mohan, ok thanks just wasn't sure with the amd in the title [15:03] I tried that [15:04] root@svlso-3-3:~# ls -a ~/.ssh [15:04] ls: cannot access /root/.ssh: No such file or directory [15:04] root@svlso-3-3:~# [15:04] Tallon, (: [15:04] robs1, first of all, working as root is really really dumb [15:04] robs1, second of all, you need to ssh one time :) [15:04] robs1, it imports conf directories as you need them [15:05] okay...I backed out of root and am operating as a regular user [15:06] robs1, ssh one time [15:06] robs1, and you will have this directory [15:06] doing so now [15:07] Ah, ok. I now see the .ssh directory [15:09] Thanks paultag...that got me going. [15:09] sure robs1 [15:10] robs1, good luck! [15:10] btw...in this case, it is not dumb to be working as root because I am installing a backup solution that requires that this be done as root [15:10] robs1, that's not true [15:10] robs1, run the installer with sudo [15:10] robs1, you should *never* have to use root [15:11] I'm installing an enterprise backup solution....it says that it must be installed as root...or the install will not complete [15:11] And I verified that to be true. [15:11] yes robs1, so use sudo [15:12] robs1, never work as root, run *single* commands under root with su -c 'foo' or sudo foo [15:12] yes, very good point paultag...am newbie so it shows LOL [15:12] robs1, if you don't have sudo on the machine, you have an issue [15:12] v:) [15:12] Doh [15:12] robs1, :) [15:13] np...it is actually kinda cool that mirc has support channels such as this [15:13] robs1, yeah, we love helping. There's a whole community of people to help [15:13] how do I verify that sudo is actually installed. I know what sudo is, just haven't played with it [15:13] robs1, also wiki pages, help pages, manuals [15:13] robs1, what distro are you running ( I hope Ubuntu? ) [15:13] yes ubuntu [15:13] robs1, dpkg -l | grep sudo [15:14] I like it so much that I also have it insalled on my mahcine at home. I love ubuntu unix and I am one of its crusader [15:14] robs1, there should be a line that says "ii sudo" [15:14] checking it now [15:14] robs1, it's Linux, not UNIX :) [15:14] hehe...okay...HP-UX is what I mostly support [15:15] yup its there [15:15] larger than life [15:15] mm [15:15] robs1, you can check the suoders by the /etc/sudoers file [15:15] robs1, you need "root" ( but you can use sudo when you see root ) [15:15] robs1, on Ubuntu the root account is disabled [15:15] wow thanks for this great help...I'm doing exactly as you say [15:16] robs1, and it should stay this way [15:16] robs1, Oh sure, no problem [15:16] robs1, esp if it's a server, if people know there is a "root" account with admin, they will try and hack this account [15:16] yeah no doubt [15:16] lowlifes [15:16] robs1, so if you disable this account and do admin work via sudo + regular user, it's harder to break into [15:17] they would need the /etc/passwd file to get a listing of people on the machine [15:17] one other thing...for some reason...I keep getting disconnected from mirch and I keep having to log back in [15:17] robs1, you kow what!! paultag is one of the hackers :P [15:17] Mohan_chml, ssshhhh! :P [15:17] lol [15:17] robs1, Humm, does your internet drop often? [15:17] lol you guys are hilarious [15:18] nope....its a corporate network [15:18] robs1, I'm reading here you're at HP [15:18] robs1, awesome :) [15:18] robs1, then why you are often getting disconnected? [15:18] robs1, Interesting. I wonder why you drop off a big line [15:18] that is a good question Mohan [15:19] he he... answer please: [15:19] this laptop has limited memory 1GB so maybe the limited memory address space just can't handle it [15:19] I can't imagine [15:19] irc is circa-1991 [15:19] * Mohan_chml too [15:19] it kinda sucks but hey [15:20] robs1, try using webchat.freenode.net [15:20] paultag, GOTO work [15:20] robs1, if that drops something else is going on [15:20] robs1, that is port 80 ( not 6667 ) and over HTTP not IRC it's self [15:20] that's a good idea about switching irc servers [15:20] robs1, you're on Freenode now :) [15:21] yes isn't that where Im supposed to be [15:21] robs1, so if that drops it's not filters or anything [15:21] oh ok [15:22] I noticed something that as long a I keep typing...I don't get disconnected. But if I go like 30 secons without typing... then boom it drops me like a hot potato [15:23] Oh humm! [15:23] robs1, this server has a PING system [15:23] robs1, if you client does not PONG you get the boot from timeout [15:23] ok, and.... [15:23] Ah!!! [15:23] robs1, and when you type it resets the PING timeout [15:23] so what can I do to make my client ping [15:23] Need a pointer with a script and chroot [15:23] robs1, use another client :( [15:23] philinux, hola [15:24] lol [15:24] robs1, haha [15:24] robs1, windows or GNU/Linux over there> [15:24] o/ [15:24] heya philinux [15:24] philinux, what can I help with [15:24] yeah I'm running windows as my client...ubuntu is not my client [15:24] Got a script for maverick so I can chroot from lucid [15:24] robs1, let's see, Try webchat.freenode for now [15:25] robs1, I think you can run some other ones, perhaps someone will poke in the conversation [15:25] okay thanks [15:25] robs1, sure thing [15:25] philinux, debootstrap'ed ? [15:25] Last line is this but there must be a better way. sudo chroot /mnt/lucid /bin/bash -c "cat /opt/apti && /bin/bash" [15:26] in the file apti is aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade. I'm fed up with typing this. If I use that as the command the terminal quits after it [15:28] As it cats the file I can then copy and paste it into the terminal. I'd like it to be run and then keep the terminal open [15:28] philinux, Sorry, what are you trying to do? [15:29] Enter chroot display "aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade" run it but keep terminal window open [15:31] Did paultag leave? [15:32] robs1: Dont think so [15:32] he's a good dude [15:32] helped me and didn't even have to [15:33] paultag, ping [15:34] Back :) [15:34] sorry [15:34] paultag, wb :) [15:35] tyty [15:35] I was at work :) [15:35] Enter chroot display "aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade" run it but keep terminal window open [15:35] paultag, but robs left :P [15:35] oh nooes [15:35] philinux, why not have it do it automatically? [15:36] paultag: I can but the terminal quits. Wont stay open [15:36] heyya robs1 [15:36] philinux, that's if you exec it [15:36] Hello Paul!!! [15:36] philinux, you can fork it back off in the bg on entry [15:36] paultag: how [15:36] philinux, if you are *only* using this chroot for "fun" add it to your bashrc, let me verify the command I'm thinking of [15:37] philinux, yup it works [15:37] philinux, $(apt-get update && apt-get upgrade) & [15:37] I tried this sudo chroot /mnt/maverick /bin/bash -c "aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade" [15:37] philinux, that should kick it off in the bg, and so long as the shell is open that'll run [15:37] philinux, yeah, but bash will exit after the -c call cuz it will exec it [15:38] philinux, same reason a shell exits after a ./foo.sh [15:38] ./foo.sh is short for [15:38] bash foo.sh [15:38] or, with flags [15:38] /bin/bash -c "foo.sh" [15:38] So it needs to be sudo chroot /mnt/maverick /bin/bash $(aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade) & [15:39] philinux, if you can stand to have it lock up primary thread, don't fork it [15:39] philinux, but remember this will run *every* time you login [15:39] Thats the idea then keep term open [15:39] philinux, might also want a > /dev/null &2>1 on there too [15:39] It not for fun mav testing [15:39] philinux, yeah, so just remove the last & on it [15:39] philinux, and add that to the bashrc [15:43] E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) [15:43] E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? [15:43] paultag: does not get the chroot prompt [15:44] whoh wtf [15:44] philinux, not your host bashrc [15:44] philinux, the chroot bashrc :) [15:44] I've not touched the bachrc at all this is run from a script on lucid [15:45] philinux, I'm lost [15:46] paultag: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476975/ [15:47] philinux, well shucks, that's not what I said :) [15:47] paultag: ignore the reference to lucid I should have changed it to maverick [15:47] errr [15:47] philinux, is dev/sdb1 device static or dynamic ( I take it you do not bootstrap this often ) ? [15:48] sdb1 is second HD [15:48] Internal [15:48] philinux, that's not the question ;) [15:48] bootstrap? [15:48] philinux, how did you install mav ? [15:49] live cd to second HD. I run lucid chroot to update mava and boot into it now and then. [15:49] philinux, Ah, I see what you're doing. [15:50] philinux, let me bootstrap and test right quickly [15:50] paultag: so script used to stop at prompt and then I have to type aptitude etc. Want to not have to type [15:50] Can someone walk me through updating my kernel with Linux audio drivers from Asus website? [15:50] philinux, bootstrapping now. Give me a few minutes to work this out [15:50] Cheers [15:58] DAMNIT [15:58] I just got it phil [15:58] sudo chroot chroot/ bash -c 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && bash' [16:00] if phil gets back, someone paste that for me [16:00] I have to do some work ( at work ) [16:07] Can someone walk me through updating my kernel with Linux audio drivers for my Asus motherboard? [16:08] tommyguitfiddle, sorry, I'm at work now [16:08] tommyguitfiddle, wait around [16:09] paultag, will do. [16:10] * philinux has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:10] DAMNIT [16:10] I just got it phil [16:10] sudo chroot chroot/ bash -c 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && bash' [16:10] if phil gets back, someone paste that for me [16:10] I have to do some work ( at work ) [16:10] Not quit [16:11] paultag: nice try but terminal quits [16:11] philinux, I'm calling BS on that [16:11] philinux, I just ran it and it works here [16:12] Just ran the script and the terminal vanishes [16:12] sec [16:12] hang on [16:12] philinux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/476986/ [16:12] philinux, yeah I'm calling B.S. [16:14] paultag: It doesn't run the update just exits pronto [16:14] philinux, it works here. Something is going wrong over there :) [16:14] philinux, the only way it will fail is if the update or upgrade fails [16:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/476989/ Line 10 works as expected. [16:17] philinux, I don't know what you're doing [16:18] philinux, let me clarify [16:18] If I run it with line 10 active this is what happens [16:19] philinux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/476990/ [16:19] philinux, it runs fine [16:19] philinux, there's my log [16:22] paultag: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476991/ [16:22] Thats the result from my script with line 10 active [16:22] philinux, I don't really care about that part [16:22] philinux, paste the apt-get update && apt-get upgrade [16:23] philinux, there is an error in that, there is no other reason bash would not start [16:23] Wheres' the error located? [16:24] philinux, you tell me :) [16:25] Ok well I'll just stick with my original script it works apart from having to copy and paste update upgrade bit into the command line [16:25] philinux, could you please run my commanad and paste the error so I can help you get apt working, so your shell works? [16:25] philinux, we can talk about it all day, but I need to know what error it is [16:26] If I run the script with this: sudo chroot chroot/ bash -c 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && bash' I dont get any errors the terminal just quits [16:27] If I manually run it it gives this. [16:28] sudo chroot chroot/ bash -c 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && bash' [16:28] chroot: cannot change root directory to chroot/: No such file or directory [16:28] well dur [16:28] philinux, change chroot/ to /mnt/whatever [16:28] philinux, chroot is what i'm using here [16:28] Ah change what? [16:28] /mnt/lucid/ [16:28] philinux, sudo chroot /mnt/lucid/ bash -c 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && bash' [16:29] chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/lucid/: No such file or directory [16:29] philinux, ... [16:29] philinux, did you write that script? [16:30] No got it off forums I think [16:30] that explains it [16:30] philinux, put that in your script [16:30] philinux, chroot/ refers to a dir where the sdb device is mounted [16:30] philinux, change that path to match the mount command's [16:32] This is original script I cobbled together. http://paste.ubuntu.com/476995/ [16:33] Running this get me the root prompt [16:34] Commands entered after line 10 are just ignored [16:34] philinux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/476997/ [16:34] well yeah [16:37] Yes Yes [16:38] paultag: Cheers [16:38] philinux, no problems [16:38] problem * [16:39] was it the /bin/bash causing the problem or what [16:40] no philinux [16:40] philinux, you had the wrong path [16:40] philinux, or if you had the chroot before it then it won't execute until that ends [16:40] philinux, I don't know [16:40] it just makes sense if you write it from scratch [16:41] Sorted now anyway [16:41] yuppers === simar__mohaar is now known as simar [18:08] I have a headless linux server. I want to do a fresh install in linux. Can this be done via ssh? [18:08] . . . a fresh install of linux. [18:16] r no [18:28] hey gang, in ubuntu server , outside of top, how can i figure out which processes are using x memory? a fresh boot of ubuntu comes up using like 300+ mb ram [18:30] siculars, give "ps -eo pmem,pcpu,rss,vsize,args | sort -k 1 -r | more" a try [18:31] holy cow. Hope you had that saved some where :) [18:31] whoa. bash hackery ftw [18:31] ( process memory, process cpu, res. set size, vm side, args ) [18:32] siculars, :) [18:32] but still ;-p [18:32] drubin, aye, I keep a ninja kit [18:32] paultag: ^5 [18:32] ^5 [18:32] siculars, all set? [18:32] so i should be looking at the vm size? [18:33] whats res.set sieze [18:33] siculars, the first column is the memory size [18:33] siculars, resident set size [18:33] siculars, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_set_size <-- this does it better then me [18:33] Resident Set Size is the portion of a process's memory that is held in RAM. The rest of the memory exists in swap or the filesystem (never loaded or previously unloaded parts of the executable). [18:33] o0o [18:34] siculars, might help debug ninja ram users [18:34] is it possible that free -m is reporting such a high number of mem usage due to including the 256mb swap ? [18:34] * Mohan_chml says paultag is a geek, but he twists the answers for the beginners :P [18:34] cause i find it hard to believe the system is using that much ram with nothing running on it [18:35] siculars, there should be a swap column -- the Mem: column is your hardware only [18:35] its a 512mb linode ubuntu vm [18:35] Mohan_chml, siculars here is not a beginner :) [18:35] Mohan_chml, he's using shell only on a vps, he can handle it [18:35] Wow [18:35]