[02:12] <zus> hello
[02:14] <zus> is any one avaliabe for a few questions? my bug squad membership is about to expire, i've gotten busy with my music and trying to get some work (need to pay bills yeah.)  if i let it expire  will i be able to re-join when my schedule frees up more time?
[02:15] <maco> yep
[02:15] <maco> just email the list and say "hey i expired a bit ago, can i get back in?"
[02:23] <hggdh> and we will get it done
[02:25] <zus> sorry my wifi  here is unreliable,...did any one get my last question?
[02:26] <charlie-tca> yup
[02:26] <charlie-tca> oops, maybe you should repeat it so we can tell.
[02:26] <zus> hi charlie-tca  how ya doing?
[02:27] <charlie-tca> doing fine. Yourself?
[02:27] <zus> my membership is going to expire, but  can i re-join when i have more time in my schedule?
[02:27] <charlie-tca> If you need to, you can just request to be allowed back in. That is not a problem
[02:28] <charlie-tca> Just ask here, "I expired a bit ago, can I get back in now?"
[02:28] <zus> charlie-tca,  good, been jamming on music, as well as trying to get my own stuff recorded.
[02:28] <charlie-tca> Great! I wish a lot of luck with that.
[02:28] <zus> sweet thanks,
[02:30] <zus> thanks. its fun most times\
[02:31] <charlie-tca> That's good. It is worth it to do something you enjoy.
[02:33] <zus> it is,  and to see people dacing at gigs is  very satisfying
[08:01] <dholbach> HAPPY HUG DAY!
[08:02] <vish> dholbach: hmm , :(
[08:02]  * vish wishes dholbach says that every hug day ;p
[08:02]  * dholbach hugs you all
[08:49] <bullgard> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/352732 #38 refers to a line 372 in /etc/init.d/alsa-utils. This does not exist in Ubuntu 10.04.1. #108 states that the file is in /sbin. This is true. But I cannot find a line "mute_and_zero_levels "$TARGET_CARD" || EXITSTATUS=1'. How to proceed?
[08:49] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 352732 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Sound muted after boot (affects: 75) (dups: 7) (heat: 380)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[09:55] <nigelb> Gnome bug 626593
[09:55] <ubot2> Gnome bug 626593 in User Guide "Gnome ate my boyfriend! Help!" [Critical,Resolved: invalid] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=626593
[09:56] <nisshh> nigelb: hehe, what a sense of humor :)
[09:58] <nisshh> nigelb: the GNOME devs should put a disclaimer, "WARNING: using this software could distance you from your boyfriend/girlfriend"
[09:58] <vish> nigelb: cheater!
[09:58] <nigelb> nisshh: heh, somone has sugested a workaround/patch for it too :D
[09:58] <nisshh> lol
[09:59] <bilalakhtar> Are such things allowed in Gnome Bugzilla?
[09:59] <vish> nigelb: i posted the bug yesterday itself ;p
[09:59] <nigelb> vish: gah
[09:59] <nigelb> bilalakhtar: a little bit of sense of humor is okay
[09:59] <nigelb> if you want to get murdered, try it on the kernel tracker :D
[09:59] <vish> nigelb: guess you noticed it from -motu today ;)
[10:00] <vish> bilalakhtar: gnome bug 50000
[10:00] <nigelb> vish: nope #k-d
[10:00] <ubot2> Gnome bug 50000 in Bugzilla "We're now in the 50000er number space" [Normal,Resolved: notabug] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50000
[10:00] <yofel> bug 100000
[10:00] <vish> bilalakhtar: they have fun there ;)  also , bug 10000
[10:00] <vish> yofel: snap!
[10:00] <ubot2> yofel: Bug 100000 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/100000 is private
[10:00] <ubot2> vish: Bug 10000 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/10000 is private
[10:00] <yofel> argh, LP down
[10:00] <vish> silly ubot2 !
[10:00] <nigelb> no, gnome bug right?
[10:00] <nisshh> hehe
[10:01] <yofel> hm...
[10:01] <nigelb> there was this mozilla bug about couch
[10:01] <vish> nigelb: nah , the lp one is also the same
[10:01] <bilalakhtar> yup
[10:01] <yofel> kde bug 100000
[10:01] <ubot2> KDE bug 100000 in general "KChart should be able to save and load from OASIS file format" [Wishlist,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100000
[10:01] <yofel> meh ^^
[10:01] <vish> yofel: kde folks take life too seriously! ;)
[10:01] <bilalakhtar> so we buggers are having fun here?
[10:01] <yofel> seems so :D
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> bug 2
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> bug #2
[10:02] <vish> nigelb: the last comment on the mozilla bug was nice ;)
[10:02] <ubot2> bilalakhtar: Bug 2 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/2 is private
[10:02] <ubot2> bilalakhtar: Bug 2 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/2 is private
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> bug #2
[10:02] <yofel> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=579522 ?
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> sorry
[10:02] <ubot2> bilalakhtar: Bug 2 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/2 is private
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> bug #1
[10:02] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 579522 in JavaScript Engine "Buy cots for the JS interns" [Normal,Verified: fixed]
[10:02] <ubot2> bilalakhtar: Bug 1 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/1 is private
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> HAHA! BUG 1 IS PRIVATE ^^
[10:02] <yofel> bilalakhtar: LP is down for maintenance
[10:02] <nigelb> whoa don't spam with bug numbers.  LP is down.
[10:02] <vish> bilalakhtar: sems to not work! lp is down
[10:03] <vish> yofel:  "one bug per issue" ;)
[10:03] <bilalakhtar> yup
[10:03] <bilalakhtar> lp is down for maintainance.. I have a few sync/merge requests awaiting report
[10:04] <vish> bilalakhtar: lp hates you ;p
[10:04] <nigelb> bilalakhtar: at most 2 hours
[10:04] <bilalakhtar> nigelb: It should be back at 3:00 IST vish
[10:04] <devildante> hi all :)
[10:05] <devildante> I hate maintenance now :p
[10:06] <yofel> well, should be up in 25min again
[10:07] <bilalakhtar> well
[10:07] <bilalakhtar> LP is down, and all of us over here are suffering :)
[10:07] <bilalakhtar> funny
[10:18] <yofel> at least the apt-get build-dep bug seems fixed
[10:19] <yofel> well, not yet
[10:19] <devildante> yofel: yeah, saw that
[10:30] <bilalakhtar> LP IS UP!
[10:33] <yofel> good :)
[10:33] <devildante> not totally up, still getting connection refused messages
[10:35] <jfi> Launchpad is undergoing maintenance and is in read-only mode.
[10:36] <jfi> (message displayed by the website)
[10:36] <devildante> *now* it's fully working :)
[10:38] <jfi> the beta theme is very (very) nice and clean but the the black on darkgray color in the date panel is not readable:)
[11:05] <walilo> hi, i'm transefered from #ubuntu, i've problem with yofrankie
[11:05] <walilo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/476859/
[11:05] <walilo> how could I report?
[11:13] <yofel> walilo: do you have a .crash file in /var/crash ?
[11:16] <trond-> Hi room. I have a computer that for the last two days has frozen up 5 times. output of dmesg: http://pastebin.org/475026
[11:21] <walilo> yofel, i'll see
[11:23] <walilo> yofel, yes there is many .crash file in /var/crash
[11:23] <yofel> walilo: choose the one with yofrankie in it's name and report it with 'ubuntu-bug -c /var/crash/<crashfile>'
[11:24] <yofel> or just double click on it in nautilus
[11:33] <walilo> yofel, no one named yofrankie
[11:48] <trond-> Hi room. I have a computer that for the last two days has frozen up 5 times. I can connect to it through ssh. Output of dmesg: http://pastebin.org/475026
[12:31] <njin> Hy all, ir right mark as invalid because Ubuntu don't ship by default libaudit ( but what we use instead ?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/390700
[12:31] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 390700 in ubuntu "it's impossible to audit login events (affects: 1) (heat: 15)" [Undecided,New]
[12:55] <dholbach> Packaging Training Session: Patch Review and Operation Cleansweep in #ubuntu-classroom in 5 minutes
[13:23] <dholbach> pedro_: hola! shall we all hang out here? or in #ubuntu-reviews?
[13:24] <pedro_> dholbach, #ubuntu-reviewers makes more sense we can just redirect people to there ;-)
[13:24] <dholbach> alrightie
[13:24] <pedro_> reviews i mean ;-)
[13:24] <dholbach> pedro_: you're not there!
[13:24] <pedro_> dholbach, yes i'm there!
[13:24] <pedro_> !
[13:24] <dholbach> ok ok :-)
[13:24] <devildante> shall I go to #ubuntu-reviewers?
[13:25] <pedro_> devildante, that'd be great ;-)
[13:25] <pedro_> devildante, #ubuntu-reviews
[13:25] <devildante> done :)
[13:32] <njin> pedro_: hello
[13:32] <pedro_> hello njin!
[13:33] <njin> pedro_: can i have an help '
[13:33] <njin> ?
[13:33] <pedro_> njin, sure :-P
[15:39] <ashams> hey simar,
[15:48] <ashams> simar: are you there?
[15:57] <simar> ashams: Hi there :)
[15:57] <simar> ashams: I was around ...
[15:57] <simar> somewhere
[15:57] <ashams> hey simar,
[15:57] <ashams> it's ok :)
[15:57] <ashams> so
[15:57] <simar> ashams: np
[15:58] <ashams> you are my mentor?
[15:58] <simar> ashams: are you familiar with irc completely ..
[15:58] <ashams> yes I think!
[15:58] <simar> ashams: what you had been doing for ubuntu till now ..
[15:58] <simar> ashams: any bugs experisnce
[15:59] <ashams> not successful ones
[15:59] <simar> ashams: k, its enough that you tried atleast.. go go!!
[15:59] <ashams> I tried to fix some bug then I found some troubles wit uploading
[16:00] <ashams> I think that the Ubuntu Packaging Guide needs to be updated
[16:08] <simar__mohaar> ashams: we will be dealing with triaging bugs rather than fixing..
[16:08] <simar__mohaar> ashams: i internet is weak . plz excuse
[16:08] <ashams> it's ok
[16:09] <ashams> :)
[16:09] <simar__mohaar> ashams: have you read my email
[16:09] <ashams> yes I did
[16:10] <simar__mohaar> ashams: k, so have you gone through the wiki pages for bug squad..
[16:10] <ashams> yes, but not all of them
[16:11] <simar__mohaar> ashams:  i want you to read them all, and be very clear with them.
[16:12] <ashams> Yes sure
[16:12] <simar__mohaar> ashams: In case any doubt you can ask on irc or just drop an email anytime
[16:12] <ashams> k
[16:13] <simar__mohaar> ashams: to triage bugs, first you should focus one package only, that way you can focus on the process more and learn better triaging.
[16:14] <simar__mohaar> ashams: do you have any specific interest ..
[16:14] <simar__mohaar> ashams: or any specific package you like to triage.
[16:15] <ashams> simar: yes I love Nautilus packages.
[16:15] <simar__mohaar> ashams: great, then go ahead..
[16:16] <ashams> simar: where to start?
[16:17] <simar__mohaar> ashams: nautilus is indeed a large package.
[16:17] <simar__mohaar> ashams: still no problem ..
[16:17] <simar__mohaar> ashams: just a sec
[16:17] <ashams> simar: if you prefer another one it will be ok ;)
[16:18] <simar__mohaar> ashams: you can have a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/nautilus for nautilus related bugs..
[16:19] <simar__mohaar> ashams: but wait
[16:19] <ashams> simar: I'm already there. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=nautilus&orderby=status&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[16:19] <simar__mohaar> ashams: gr8
[16:20] <simar__mohaar> ashams: I have little experiance with desktop related stuff, I would prefer if you could start with touchpad related stuff..
[16:20] <simar__mohaar> ashams: Its drivers related ,
[16:20] <ashams> ok
[16:21] <simar__mohaar> ashams: Seems to be tough at begining but i have written some documentation which you can follow and i will be able to guide you better here. :)
[16:21] <ashams> simar: GR8
[16:22] <ashams> simar: where is that docs
[16:22] <ashams> ?
[16:23] <simar__mohaar> but wait a bit, first you should get yourself familiar with bug squad procedures, so that you can fit in better..
[16:23] <simar__mohaar> ashams: I hope you should read the documents at least once first..
[16:24] <devildante> guys, bug 600989 is for a package that doesn't have an upstream bug tracker. should I seek Ubuntu sponsorship? (posted this on #ubuntu-reviews but didn't get response)
[16:24] <ashams> simar__mohaar: frankly I'm still working on the How To traige doc, sorry :(
[16:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 600989 in multimon (Ubuntu) "Wrong sox syntax in gen.c (output) (affects: 1) (heat: 90)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600989
[16:24] <simar__mohaar> ashams: np :)
[16:25] <ashams> simar__mohaar: I promise to finish it today.
[16:25] <simar__mohaar> ashams: k, good
[16:26] <simar__mohaar> ashams: but be sure to get very comfortable with it :)
[16:26] <simar__mohaar> ashams: have you done some commenting in bug reports before, or some triaging..  anything
[16:27] <ashams> simar__mohaar: im totally new to that, i was affraid to do it wrong!
[16:27] <simar__mohaar> ashams: i see you are quite a bit active in translations.
[16:27] <simar__mohaar> ashams: go going, you will learn fast i think :)
[16:28] <ashams> simar__mohaar: I hope to!
[16:28] <simar__mohaar> devildante: have you written that patch?
[16:29] <devildante> simar: no, but seems reasonable and simple
[16:29] <simar__mohaar> ashams: hope is enough :))
[16:30] <ashams> simar__mohaar: when will we meet again?
[16:30] <simar__mohaar> devildante: i see Ubuntu Review Team is already subscribed. can Ubuntu sponsers team can be subscribed still?
[16:31] <yofel> devildante: that should go to debian, and considering that oday is feature freeze make a debdiff for maverick
[16:31] <yofel> s/oday/today/
[16:31] <devildante> simar: yes, but if you do a merge request, you shouldn't subscribe ubuntu-sponsors
[16:31] <devildante> yofel: thanks :)
[16:31] <simar__mohaar> ashams: Mail me anytime, or find me here around the same time to 2 hours more ..
[16:31] <yofel> well, or do a merge request for the maverick package, I haven't done that myself yet though
[16:32] <ashams> simar__mohaar: ok, Thanks for your patiance. :) :) :)
[16:32] <yofel> and -reviews would be better to ask at ;)
[16:32] <simar__mohaar> ashams: np
[16:32] <yofel> oh, nobody there -.-
[16:33] <devildante> yofel: yeah, that's why I've gone here ;)
[16:33] <simar__mohaar> devildante: k i'm new to packaging myself
[16:33] <devildante> simar: we're in the same boat :)
[16:33] <yofel> simar__mohaar: today is patch review hug day ;) [the discussion is spread here and in #ubuntu-reviews]
[16:34] <MichealH> As anyone avalible to triage some bugs
[16:34] <MichealH> *Is
[16:34] <simar__mohaar> yofel: I will join #ubuntu-reviews as well
[16:35] <charlie-tca> MichealH: numbers as bug number
[16:35] <simar__mohaar> devildante: :)
[16:35] <MichealH> Yes charlie-tca
[16:35] <MichealH> I will PM you them
[16:35] <charlie-tca> MichealH: and the importance you want it set to?
[16:35] <MichealH> Yes I will PM it
[16:35] <charlie-tca> okay
[16:39] <simar__mohaar> vish: hi
[16:42] <simar__mohaar> vish: there?
[16:52] <vish> simar: hey
[16:55] <simar> vish: I have contacted my student and explained given him some intro about the process ..
[16:56] <simar> vish: Like all he's also thinks that traiging is fixing ..
[16:56] <vish> simar: neat!
[16:56] <vish> simar: well , if someone wants to fix , no need to stop them :D
[17:00] <simar__mohaar> vish: ya sure, only if fixing could have been so easy :))
[17:01] <simar> vish: I feel like I can get him to touchpad as well. It will be easy for me and he has welcomed it..
[17:03] <vish> simar: so we can expect better touchpad support in the near future? ;)
[17:04] <devildante> vish: we could get multitouch support :p
[17:04] <simar> vish: ya, you could hope so .. ;-)
[17:22] <drizzle> hi all
[17:31] <vish> devildante: did you make it? addons is in?
[17:31] <devildante> vish: not yet
[17:31] <vish> hmm..
[17:32] <devildante> vish: mvo said he'll think about a possible solution to a little problem
[17:32] <devildante> vish: if you want to see how it has progressed, just pull my branch ;)
[17:33] <vish> devildante: ah , will do.. but not right now :)
[17:35] <devildante> vish: np :)
[17:37] <elopio> hello squad
[17:38] <elopio> when I try to load my mozilla cookie with hugtools, I get:
[17:38] <elopio> TypeError: Error while trying to read cookie in sql format, cannot handle format of '.mozilla/firefox/iwjaon95.default/cookies.sqlite'
[17:38] <devildante> vish, can I modify https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide? I want to add an example
[17:38] <elopio> do you know what's the problem?
[17:39] <vish> devildante: example for which?
[17:39] <vish> which tag..
[17:39] <devildante> vish: Ubuntu-specific change
[17:40] <devildante> vish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ldapscripts/+bug/582797
[17:40] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 582797 in ldapscripts (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/ldapscripts/runtime.debian in Ubuntu should use /etc/ldap.conf (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Low,Fix released]
[17:40] <vish> devildante: go ahead.. but if nigelb starts crying , you dont know me ;p
[17:40] <devildante> vish: okay :)
[17:41] <devildante> vish: and thanks :)
[17:41] <vish> np..
[17:55] <abhijit> hello
[17:55] <devildante> abhijit: hi :)
[17:55] <abhijit> devildante, :)
[18:08] <abhijit> vish, ping
[18:08] <abhijit> devildante, you there?
[18:08] <devildante> abhijit: yep :)
[18:08] <vish> abhijit: pong! hmm ... i had something for you
[18:08] <abhijit> vish, what?
[18:08] <devildante> a bomb :p
[18:09] <abhijit> :-o
[18:09]  * abhijit wishing for some good gift!
[18:09] <abhijit> i forget to write the word 'expensive'!!!
[18:09] <abhijit> :P
[18:10] <abhijit> vish, tell naa?
[18:10] <vish> abhijit: http://live.gnome.org/DanielGalleguillos/GNOME_Bugsquad_Render?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Render_21.jpg
[18:10] <vish> abhijit: and http://live.gnome.org/DanielGalleguillos/GNOME_Bugsquad_Render?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Render_13.jpg
[18:10] <vish> ;)
[18:11] <abhijit> vish, O M G ! ! !
[18:11] <vish> abhijit: thats a better wallpaper, than what you have ;p
[18:12] <abhijit> vish, oh yah!!!!
[18:12] <abhijit> vish, i will add it too !!!
[18:13] <abhijit> vish, devildante i need to ask one doubt. now i have one whishlist for ubuntu. but when i go to brainstrom page it tell me to submit solution too? but i dont have solution. its just an wishlist idea. so whould i submit it as bug and mark as wishlist?
[18:14] <devildante> abhijit: I would think so
[18:14] <vish> abhijit: whats your suggestion?
[18:14] <devildante> since brainstorm requires a solution
[18:14] <abhijit> devildante, ammmm means y/n?
[18:14] <devildante> like vish said, what's your bug/suggestion?
[18:14] <abhijit> devildante, vish this is my idea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/477038/
[18:16] <devildante> abhijit: the "my idea" line is the solution
[18:16] <vish> abhijit: i stopped here : Now what happens is i am reading one article on one web site.
[18:16] <vish> Now they told me to exuce one command which requires sudo.
[18:16] <vish>   >>>>> kick the website author! ;p
[18:16] <devildante> abhijit: but I think it's unfeasible without changing lots of things
[18:16] <devildante> vish: :p
[18:16] <abhijit> devildante, means? should i write the word 'my idea'? in brainstorm solution section?
[18:16] <abhijit> vish, lol :D :D :D
[18:17] <abhijit> devildante, thats another part. I want to submit my Idea.
[18:17] <vish> dont advocate use of sudo , instead use gksudo or pkexec
[18:18] <abhijit> vish, thats not the concern. concern is copyying from here to clt alt f1 sessin.
[18:18] <devildante> abhijit: the line that describes the solution should be the solution
[18:18] <vish> abhijit: that needs to go to brainstorm , not a bug ;)
[18:19] <abhijit> vish, but brain storm ask me for solution? I dont have it?
[18:19] <vish> abhijit: ln13 is your solution
[18:19] <abhijit> vish, you mean should i copy that line to solution secti of brain storm?
[18:19] <vish> yup
[18:20] <vish> abhijit: but i doubt  that the solution would get an approval ;)
[18:20] <vish> rather that idea getting approved
[18:20] <abhijit> vish, ohhhh. I just want my idea to get approved.
[18:20] <vish> abhijit: why do you have such a weird setup? why are you not an admin?
[18:21] <devildante> a better solution would be to gksudo as admin from normal account
[18:21] <abhijit> vish, just..... to be extra secure.
[18:21] <abhijit> :D
[18:21] <abhijit> devildante, ok
[18:21] <devildante> abhijit: just saying, I'm not an expert :p
[18:21] <vish> abhijit: yeah , right!  your system holds the worlds secrets ;)
[18:21] <abhijit> devildante, yah
[18:22] <abhijit> vish, :D
[18:23] <elopio> hello, I need a hand here.
[18:23] <abhijit> \o
[18:23] <elopio> I forwarded the patch of bug 610616 to debian
[18:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 610616 in avalon-framework (Ubuntu) "avalon-framework copyright invalid format (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610616
[18:24] <elopio> now I don't really understand how to add the watch to the debian ts
[18:24] <elopio> I click also affects project, and what project should I select?
[18:24] <devildante> elopio: click on "also affects distribution"
[18:24] <elopio> ummm
[18:25] <elopio> great :) thanks devildante.
[18:25] <devildante> elopio: np :)
[18:25] <devildante> vish: should he also attach a debdiff?
[18:25] <abhijit> visha devildante here it is http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/25591/
[18:26] <devildante> we have someone called visha? :p
[18:27] <abhijit> ohhh
[18:27] <abhijit> vish, devildante just refresh page i have commented on it
[18:27] <elopio> one bug reviewed, 1399 to go \o/
[18:28] <devildante> elopio: :)
[18:28] <Pici> abhijit: Brainstorm has their own channel at #ubuntu-brainstorm, this conversation might be more appropriate for there.
[18:28] <vish> devildante: if you want to get it uploaded by a sponsor the bug needs a debdiff
[18:28] <devildante> vish: okay, thanks :)
[18:29] <abhijit> Pici, i am already there. and talking to andrew. i just wanted to know vish and devildante what happen to my issue. and yes i stop that discussion here now. thanks :)
[18:30] <MichealH> Is there a Triager in here?
[18:30] <elopio> MichealH: it is full of triagers in here :)
[18:30] <vish> MichealH: wanna shoot them? ;)
[18:30] <MichealH> Yes
[18:30] <MichealH> I will PM vish
[18:30] <abhijit> vish, you in funny mood today ??? Lol :D :D :D
[18:31] <elopio> MichealH: I'm just learning, you should shoot somebody more experienced.
[18:31] <MichealH> Yah Okay
[18:31] <devildante> MichealH: post your problem here, we won't bite you :p
[18:32] <MichealH> Okay
[18:32] <vish>  Bug 616581
[18:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 616581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config fails to run (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616581
[18:32] <MichealH> I confirmed it
[18:32] <MichealH> Awaiting Traige
[18:33] <devildante> seems okay
[18:33] <vish> MichealH: do you face the same issue as mentioned on the bug report?
[18:33] <devildante> vish, take care of it :p
[18:33] <MichealH> No
[18:33] <MichealH> I just want to help Triage :D
[18:34] <devildante> vish: I think we can mark as confirmed if "There are enough debug informations"
[18:34] <vish> MichealH: right , marking a bug confirmed means that the person who makes the bug confirmed is able to reproduce the problem
[18:35] <MichealH> I agree with devildante though vish
[18:35] <MichealH> It has enough info
[18:35] <MichealH> And It affects annother person
[18:35] <devildante> vish: as in the HowToTriage howto: "Are there sufficient log files and crash dumps, as outlined in DebuggingProcedures?"
[18:35] <vish> MichealH: who is the other person?
[18:35] <MichealH> I dont know
[18:35] <MichealH> It says at the top
[18:35] <devildante> vish: and "If the bug adheres to ANY of the following criteria it can be considered confirmed"
[18:36] <MichealH> and then Triaged
[18:36] <vish> devildante: just because the bug has logs does not make the bug reproducible or really an issue
[18:37] <devildante> vish: so we should fix the wiki :p
[18:37] <vish> MichealH: the bug mentions as affects one person , which means the reporter
[18:38] <MichealH> Ahhh, Ooops
[18:39] <MichealH> It has enough logs at the Wiki Outlined
[18:39] <MichealH> *as
[18:39] <MichealH> I am only following the Guide
[18:40] <MichealH> vish, ^^
[18:40] <vish> where are you quoting this from ? <devildante> vish: as in the HowToTriage howto: "Are there sufficient log files and crash dumps, as outlined in DebuggingProcedures?"
[18:40] <devildante> vish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Confirming
[18:40] <njin> pedro_: around ?
[18:41] <vish> MichealH: devildante: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[18:41] <devildante> vish: thanks for the info :)
[18:41] <devildante> vish: but I think we should fix the page I told you about
[18:41] <vish> devildante: yup
[18:42] <devildante> vish: maybe talk with other guys?
[18:42] <charlie-tca> Wait!
[18:42] <vish> charlie-tca: i'm not fixing it :)
[18:42] <charlie-tca> vish: many packages do not require a second reporter to confirm now. Example: audio bugs. If your hardware is not an exact match, please file a new report.
[18:42] <charlie-tca> Linux is the same way
[18:43] <vish> charlie-tca: thats audio , kernel bugs
[18:43] <MichealH> So It will be triaged?
[18:43] <njin> hello there's problems uninstalling and reinstalling gnome-control-center ?
[18:43] <MichealH> njin, File a report
[18:44] <vish> charlie-tca: kernel bugs are confirmed when they are reproducible only with upstream kernel
[18:44]  * devildante predicts a war between vish and charlie-tca :p
[18:45] <charlie-tca> true
[18:45] <vish> devildante: nah ,charlie-tca is great :)
[18:45] <njin> i'm asking if you think that will be problem uninstalling and reinstalling gnome-control-center, is safe to do it ?
[18:45] <charlie-tca> devildante: no war! vish knows too much for that
[18:45] <devildante> vish: :)
[18:45]  * devildante hugs charlie-tca and vish
[18:45] <timc> njin: For general support, please join #ubuntu
[18:46] <charlie-tca> vish: true point. better to say bugs "can only be confirmed when all items required for that package are included" ??
[18:46] <vish> charlie-tca: yeah..
[18:46] <MichealH> So is it going to be triaged?
[18:46] <charlie-tca> I am sorry. I did not mean to jump on you
[18:46] <MichealH> Or not?
[18:47] <vish> charlie-tca: np.. :)
[18:48] <vish> MichealH: as a rule of thumb first check the bug has steps to reproduce , then try to reproduce it
[18:48] <MichealH> Is it going to be triaged?
[18:48] <MichealH> Okay
[18:49] <vish> MichealH: nope , i'm not setting it as triaged , maybe other here might..
[18:49] <timc> so we do need confirmation from another person/reproduce it ourselves, before changing status to confirmed?
[18:50] <vish> timc: atleast from one person other than the reporter
[18:51] <charlie-tca> correct, as a general rule, it must be reproducable
[18:51] <timc> thanks for clearing it up :)
[18:52] <MichealH> I will see if it replicates
[18:54] <vish> timc: nice to see a fedora person triaging Ubuntu Bugs :)
[18:56] <timc> New to bugs, fedora project is infrastructure related
[18:56] <timc> btw.. anyone have any idea how long it takes to get assigned a mentor?  I've only just applied, but curious on the turnaround time.
[18:56] <MichealH> For trying oem-config should I use OEM install at the boot menu?
[18:57] <vish> timc: it depends, if a mentor is available during your timeslot you get assigned immediately .. if no one is free , we need to wait for a mentor's slot to open up
[18:58] <timc> makes sense... cheers
[18:59] <charlie-tca> but, we will help you anyway. we all try to answer any questions asked here.
[19:00] <MichealH> The bug does replicate
[19:00] <MichealH> Bug 616581
[19:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 616581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config fails to run (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616581
[19:01] <MichealH> vish, charlie-tca, devildante ^^
[19:07] <MichealH> micahg, Can you triage Bug 616581?
[19:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 616581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config fails to run (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616581
[19:08] <micahg> MichealH: I'm not familiar with ubuquity, so I defer to someone else in the channel
[19:08] <MichealH> Okay
[19:08] <micahg> maybe hggdh or charlie-tca that do ISO testing
[19:09] <vish> MichealH: me neither, but you need not worry about that bug , since the reporter is part of the mobile team and is a BugControl member himself..
[19:10] <micahg> vish: just because one is a member of bug control doesn't mean one necessarily knows if a bug is good enough to be triaged
[19:10] <vish> micahg: true :)
[19:11] <MichealH> charlie-tca is looking into it
[19:11] <trond-> Hi room. I have a computer that for the last two days has frozen up 5 times. I can connect to it through ssh, so I can get a few outputs. Output of dmesg: http://pastebin.org/475026
[19:12] <micahg> trond-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging
[19:13] <charlie-tca> Taken care of bug 616581
[19:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 616581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config fails to run (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616581
[19:13] <trond-> micahg, well, since I have killed X and nothing happens, that might not be X? or?
[19:16] <micahg> trond-: idk, maybe take a look at the kernel debugging pages then
[19:22] <MichealH> Woah! Im inpressed by Bug 616947
[19:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 616947 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 10.04 freezes on heavy Wifi network load using (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616947
[19:23] <MichealH> *impresesed
[19:23] <MichealH> I think I should get it ready for Triaging
[19:23] <abhijit> can someone please set the importance of thsi bug for Lucid? its only set for Maverick?
[19:23] <abhijit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pgadmin3/+bug/610975
[19:23] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 610975 in pgadmin3 (Debian) (and 4 other projects) "Can not start pgadmin3 (affects: 24) (dups: 2) (heat: 124)" [Unknown,Unknown]
[19:23] <trond-> micahg, I'll do that to. I'll anyway file a bug report with the ubuntu-bug xorg command. Thanks for that tip.
[19:23] <micahg> MichealH: did you read the kernel bug triaging wiki page?
[19:24] <MichealH> micahg, Link please
[19:24] <micahg> MichealH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/Process
[19:24] <abhijit> micahg, can you set it?
[19:25] <micahg> abhijit: yeah
[19:26] <abhijit> micahg, ok. please set lucid importance to high also
[19:27]  * micahg wonders why ttx didn't set it
[19:28] <abhijit> who is he?
[19:28] <abhijit> micahg, also i have one question
[19:28] <MichealH> micahg, Soit should be tagged kernel-net
[19:29] <MichealH> *Should
[19:29] <abhijit> micahg, as you can see i had reported duplicate of this bug. but actually in my bug only pgadmin thing was duplicate but codelite is not. so should i again open new bug for codelite?
[19:29] <micahg> MichealH: idk about kernel triage, that's a scary area for me, which is ironic since most people are scared of the Mozilla stack which I do :-/
[19:30] <nigelb> micahg: kernel is always scary.
[19:30] <micahg> abhijit: 1 issue per bug, so I'd say file another bug
[19:30] <abhijit> micahg, okk
[19:31] <nigelb> Isn' Debian in freeze now?
[19:31] <maco> yes
[19:31] <nigelb> (so, something being in unstable for long isn't abnormal right?)
[19:32] <maco> right. little is moving from unstable to testing til after release
[19:32] <nigelb> thank you :)
[19:32] <maco> micahg: im scared of the mozilla stack because i once had to peek under firefox's hood in a class. *shudder*
[19:32] <abhijit> micahg, can you tell me what is 'freez'?
[19:32] <micahg> nigelb: look at packages.qa.debian.org/packagename and it'll tell you why it didn't migrate
[19:33] <micahg> abhijit: ?
[19:33] <nigelb> !freeze
[19:33] <ubot2> Factoid 'freeze' not found
[19:33] <abhijit> micahg, i dont know what is freez
[19:33] <nigelb> gah
[19:33] <micahg> !ffe
[19:33] <ubot2> Feature Freeze Exception. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the freeze exception process.
[19:34] <nigelb> we should have something for that.
[19:34] <micahg> !ff
[19:34] <ubot2> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins - See also !firefox-3.5
[19:34] <abhijit> no
[19:35] <abhijit> i dont know anything about freez.
[19:35] <abhijit> micahg, so i just submitted new bug for codelite https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/codelite/+bug/616960 so depending on the pgadmin experience can you set it conformed triaged etc?
[19:35] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 616960 in codelite (Ubuntu) "Codelite relocation error (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[19:35] <micahg> abhijit: are you talking about feature freeze?
[19:36] <abhijit> micahg, no. talking about the operating system freez. in user days also i encouter that word but i dotn know whta it is
[19:36] <micahg> abhijit: ah, when the system locks up and is unresponsive
[19:36] <abhijit> micahg, ok
[19:36] <abhijit> micahg, so back to bug issue. what to do?
[19:37] <micahg> so, ok, do you know if a rebuild will fix it?
[19:38] <abhijit> micahg, i think so. actualy i got solution for that pgadmin issue. but i did not got any solution for codelite with same problem.
[19:38] <BUGabundo> evening
[19:38] <micahg> abhijit: k, can you remind me in about 10 hrs and I'll throw a rebuild up in my PPA for you to test?
[19:39] <abhijit> micahg, I can remind. but not in 10 hours. i can come tomorow night.
[19:39] <micahg> abhijit: I'll do it now, give me a minute
[19:39] <abhijit> micahg, ok
[19:47] <micahg> abhijit: should be ready in an hour ppa:micahg/sru-test
[19:47] <abhijit> micahg, ok you just upload it. i wll try it and will tell you if that solves the problem or not.
[19:47] <abhijit> micahg, thanks for your time.
[19:48] <micahg> abhijit: any reason why you made it private?
[19:49] <abhijit> micahg, its automatically generate file. so may contain any private data?
[19:49] <micahg> abhijit: no file, just dependency list
[19:49] <abhijit> micahg, oh. dependancy dont have private data?
[19:50] <micahg> abhijit: no, just a list of versions of packages that the app depends on
[19:50] <abhijit> micahg, ok then i set it to public.
[19:50] <abhijit> micahg, done.
[21:07] <drizzle> hi all
[21:09] <KE1HA> hello
[21:22] <drizzle> can someone mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/617002 as wishlist please
[21:22] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 617002 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Sound adjustment (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[21:25] <njin> pedro_:sorry, tempest here, disconnected.
[21:25] <pedro_> njin, no worries ;-)
[21:27] <njin> pedro_: here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/390769 xserver-xorg-input-keyboard apport-collect, stock responses without pack assigned
[21:27] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 390769 in ubuntu "move window Shift-Ctrl-Alt-XXX keybord shortcut not working (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[21:29] <JFo> drizzle, done
[21:32] <drizzle> thanks
[21:32] <devildante> vish: got time?
[22:03] <devildante> Can someone confirm and triage bug 617044?
[22:03] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 617044 in gdm (Ubuntu) "gdmsetup unlock screen doesn't show what is done (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617044
[22:12] <javpra> Is Bug Day still going on?
[22:13] <FireCrotch> Hello, everyone.  I figured this would be the best place to ask this....
[22:14] <FireCrotch> I have a bug to file concerning setting up dual monitors in Kubuntu. Basically the "right of" or "left of" setting doesnt work properly in system settings.  What package should this bug be filed on? Is it an X problem? (Note this is for Maverick)
[22:43] <devildante> hmm, lots of people just joined now :p
[22:45] <chilicuil> good afternoon, I'm sorry if this is not the place to ask, but #ubuntu-motu doesn't seem very active right now, I'm trying to upload a new debdiff to the bug #462193 , however my diff ( http://pastebin.com/dHLELxfE ) looks differente to one uploaded by the last person ( http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52823113/lp462193.debdiff ) , since it's a dump change I'd not like to upload the wrong diff, I've make it with $ bzr diff --old ../previous_c
[22:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 462193 in djvulibre (Debian) (and 3 other projects) "djvulibre-bin produces garbage in the root (/man1/*) (affects: 18) (dups: 2) (heat: 100)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/462193
[22:46] <micahg> chilicuil: definitely OT here
[22:46] <micahg> chilicuil: come to -motu and I"ll take a look
[22:46] <chilicuil> micahg: ok, micahg =)
[22:49] <devildante> Can someone confirm and triage bug 617044?
[22:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 617044 in gdm (Ubuntu) "gdmsetup unlock screen doesn't show what is done (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617044