| SpamapS | mathiaz: ping! - hoping that we can upload moin 1.9.3 before FF tomorrow, if you can take a look at the merge here that would be great: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/moin/+bug/586518 | 00:02 |
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| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/586518) | 00:02 |
| mathiaz | SpamapS: ^^ that's not good ;) | 00:02 |
| SpamapS | ttx: I added you to the merge proposal too, since you did the last merge just before lucid release | 00:02 |
| SpamapS | haha | 00:03 |
| SpamapS | bug 586518 | 00:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 586518 in moin (Ubuntu) "Please merge moin 1.9.3-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586518 | 00:03 |
| SpamapS | ubottu: I knew you could do it | 00:04 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 00:04 |
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| Guest76764 | ... | 00:30 |
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| hlieberman | Better. Question: What is ubuntu policy on shipping .pc files (for pkg-config)? | 00:31 |
| hlieberman | It appears that very few packages use them anymore. | 00:31 |
| TheMuso | hlieberman: Actually, a lot of packages use them. .pc files are shipped in a packages -dev package. So if you have a library, you have libname0 for example, and libname-dev, the .pc pkg-config file goes in libname-dev | 00:33 |
| micahg | hlieberman: they're fairly common (2114 files in Lucid), is there a specific package missing one | 00:34 |
| hlieberman | Hm. | 00:38 |
| hlieberman | One second, let me check why... | 00:38 |
| hlieberman | Ah, got it. Thanks. :) | 00:55 |
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| tle | I'm looking for an open source project to join and contribute to as a developer. Preferably a smaller project that I can help grow. Does anyone have any suggestions? | 01:47 |
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| RAOF | tle: I'd suggest finding a program that does most of what you want, but has some niggles, and then go on to fix those niggles. | 02:08 |
| tle | RAOF: thanks | 02:12 |
| seif | tle, we started a very new small project | 02:35 |
| seif | tle, do u use python | 02:35 |
| tle | seif: I have very little experience. mostly C, C++, Objective-C, Java, C# | 02:36 |
| seif | tle, u can learn python | 02:36 |
| seif | it is very easy | 02:36 |
| seif | hi RAOF | 02:36 |
| tle | seif: so I hear | 02:36 |
| RAOF | seif: Howdie. | 02:36 |
| RAOF | Banshee's fun to hack on :) | 02:37 |
| seif | RAOF, +1 | 02:37 |
| seif | RAOF, banshee seem like it is going to get an extension | 02:37 |
| seif | did u vote already | 02:37 |
| seif | ? | 02:37 |
| seif | for a zeitgeist extension | 02:37 |
| RAOF | seif: Yeah, I did. | 02:41 |
| seif | RAOF, AWESOME | 02:41 |
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| kirkland | pitti: howdy! can you please accept https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=screen for lucid-proposed? | 04:12 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:28 |
| pitti | kirkland: sorry, lucid is still in 10.04.1 freeze | 05:28 |
| ajmitch | morning pitti | 05:29 |
| baptistemm | hi there | 05:39 |
| micahg | if I'm getting unused substitution warnings, but I ran lesspipe and everything looks ok, should I ignorethem/ | 05:42 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: good morning! can you please move d-i/lucid-proposed to -updates? (this requires some extra magic) | 06:58 |
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| tjaalton | hey, I see dpkg with the sync() patch is still in lucid-proposed since June 28th, are there issues with it or will it get in updates soon? | 07:45 |
| micahg | tjaalton: was there verifiication in -proposed? | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | noticed that installing with ext3 took 35min while ext4 made it double | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | micahg: the bug shows verification done | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | oh wait | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | duh, it is in updates | 07:47 |
| tjaalton | so the slowdown is something different | 07:47 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:00 |
| dholbach | mvo: bug 586790! | 08:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 586790 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Typo in --help of apt-add-repository" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586790 | 08:07 |
| dholbach | mvo: slacker! :-P | 08:08 |
| mvo | hey dholbach | 08:09 |
| * dholbach hugs mvo | 08:09 | |
| dholbach | hey slomo | 08:09 |
| mvo | weeehhh … the sponsoring police | 08:09 |
| * mvo tries to hide | 08:09 | |
| dholbach | haha | 08:09 |
| mvo | dholbach: *cough* but you got me, big indanereherenwort to sponsor it today | 08:10 |
| dholbach | haha | 08:10 |
| dholbach | just merge it in and upload whenever - I forgot about it myself | 08:10 |
| dholbach | somebody who was at the session at the time just reminded me | 08:10 |
| slomo | hi dholbach | 08:12 |
| garet | hello, I am having trouble with an upstart job that isn't running on boot (works well once booted) and I can't find clues on where it's failing | 08:27 |
| garet | does anyone know where are traces of the init process ? or how I can make a more detail debug session | 08:28 |
| dholbach | pitti, lool: to get bug 525512 fixed, I just need to sponsor the diff of bug 525395? | 08:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 525512 in libtime-modules-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libtime-modules-perl" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525512 | 08:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 525395 in backuppc (Ubuntu) "Missing dependency to libtime-modules-perl" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525395 | 08:31 |
| dholbach | DktrKranz: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! | 08:31 |
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| pitti | dholbach: I'll just move the package to main; but the backuppc (525395) one needs sponsoring as it seems? | 08:33 |
| dholbach | pitti: ok, I'm happy to sponsor it | 08:33 |
| pitti | dholbach: moved to main, I'll update the bug | 08:33 |
| dholbach | ROCK | 08:33 |
| dholbach | pitti: muchas gracias | 08:34 |
| pitti | de nada | 08:34 |
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| DktrKranz | dholbach: THANKS! | 08:48 |
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| dholbach | pitti, lool: what about python-werkzeug, parsedatetime, libapache2-mod-wsgi and python-xappy? did those MIRs make it? | 08:53 |
| dholbach | (just looking at the moin merge) | 08:53 |
| lool | I have not been active on MIRs this cycle | 08:54 |
| lool | asac/pitti/kees/doko did most of the work I think | 08:54 |
| lool | (sorry for the highlights) | 08:54 |
| dholbach | lool: slacker! :-P | 08:54 |
| Laney | is the sync queue going to be processed before FF? | 08:55 |
| dholbach | "LP will go down for maintenace in 30 seconds." | 08:56 |
| Laney | good timing | 08:57 |
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| soren | Whuh.... If recvfrom returns 0, am I the only one who'd be surprised to find the message buffer actually populated with data? | 09:06 |
| dholbach | Laney: nice reply on the motu list | 09:08 |
| Laney | dholbach: Cheers. I feel like I'm forever redirecting people ;) | 09:10 |
| dholbach | Laney: don't underestimate the service you're doing with that :) | 09:10 |
| bilalakhtar | I just used requestsync. Later, I noticed that lp is down for maintainence. What will happen in such a case? | 09:29 |
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| tkamppeter | The upload server is down. "dput" (to main) gives a "[Errno 111] Connection refused". | 10:22 |
| tkamppeter | I can ping upload.ubuntu.com though. | 10:23 |
| ttx | nothing like LP maintenance on FeatureFreeze day. | 10:24 |
| * asac will do MIRs for 1h+ today | 10:28 | |
| tkamppeter | dput server is back. | 10:40 |
| tkamppeter | Will Thunderbird 3.1 make it into Maverick? | 10:41 |
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| jibel | mvo, Hey, bug 615923 . a keystroke error I guess. | 10:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 615923 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Syntax Error - UpdateManager/Core/utils.py" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615923 | 10:50 |
| mvo | jibel: *gar* thanks, I have a look | 10:51 |
| dholbach | MIR people: what about python-werkzeug, parsedatetime, libapache2-mod-wsgi and python-xappy? did those MIRs make it? | 10:55 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: my hero! *hug* :) | 10:59 |
| dholbach | ttx: can you or somebody have a second look over the moin merge? it'd be nice to go in, I'm just not sure if all the MIRs made it | 11:02 |
| mvo | jibel: fix uploaded | 11:03 |
| ttx | dholbach: I'm on it | 11:03 |
| dholbach | yeeehaw | 11:03 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, should we add the pt_BR langpack to the CD as the guy who has written the PPD compression is Brazilian? | 11:24 |
| ion | tkamppeter: Shouldn’t openprinting-ppds depend on python, btw? | 11:27 |
| ttx | dholbach: done | 11:29 |
| * ttx lunches | 11:29 | |
| pitti | tkamppeter: right now pt is on i386 only, but after those savings we can put it back on amd64 as well perhaps :) | 11:30 |
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| tkamppeter | pitti, I have added ${python:Depends} to all binary packages which contain PPD archives. | 11:39 |
| tkamppeter | ion, ^^ | 11:39 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: oh, why? (those only work if you call dh_pysupport) | 11:39 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: ah, so the .ppd files are now being generated by a Python module? | 11:41 |
| tkamppeter | ion, pitti, "dpkg -p openprinting.ppds" gives "Depends: python, xz-utils", does this not come from "${python:Depends}"? | 11:41 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: seems to be alright | 11:41 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, yes, the self-extracting archives in /usr/lib/cups/driver/ are Python programs. They only use standard modules and the xz command line utility. | 11:42 |
| * dholbach hugs ttx | 11:54 | |
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| SpamapS | ttx: ^5! | 12:33 |
| ttx | SpamapS: ⁵ | 12:35 |
| kirkland | pitti: dang, even for -proposed? | 12:35 |
| Kano | why is isohybrid not called on the iso image? then it would be hybrid | 12:53 |
| Kano | any specific problem to do so | 12:53 |
| ogra | Kano, file a but ? | 12:55 |
| ogra | *bug | 12:55 |
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| ogra | Kano, we just upgraded to a new syslinux and looking at bug 553581 isohybrid wasnt even included in the syslinux package until the 14th | 12:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 553581 in syslinux (Ubuntu) "isohybrid command not found" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553581 | 12:56 |
| Kano | ogra: the bug was filed last year | 12:56 |
| ogra | Kano, last year we still used an old syslinux version and i dont think that had any hybrid support, the new syslinux only eneterd ubuntu in maverick | 12:57 |
| Kano | i know thats why i reported a bug, now syslinux is new enough but no isohybrid script was called on the iso image | 12:57 |
| Kano | you have to do that on your build-box | 12:58 |
| ogra | against what is the bug filed ? | 12:58 |
| ogra | if it needs to happen on the builder, add a task for debian-cd then the cdimage team will see it | 12:59 |
| Kano | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/524803 | 13:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 524803 in Ubuntu CD Images "isolinux hybrid mode should be used - all other major distributions do so since last year" [Undecided,New] | 13:01 |
| ogra | that has an answer from colin with an explanation why its not done yet | 13:02 |
| Kano | that was 4 weeks ago and nothing changed | 13:02 |
| ogra | (who in turn is on vacation) | 13:02 |
| ogra | just be patient | 13:02 |
| Kano | it is still the case that all other distos which i test / create can do that since last year | 13:03 |
| ogra | we are not "other distros" | 13:03 |
| Kano | yes u is special, not always in a good way ;) | 13:04 |
| ogra | cdimage team is obviously aware and the person working on it is on holiday | 13:04 |
| Kano | why does the kubuntu installer not ask for a bootloader target? | 13:36 |
| Kano | also it seems the installer ist broken anyway... | 13:36 |
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| sladen | Kano: the person who looks after cdimage/syslinux build is on holiday. If you want them to get your feedback, can you post it on the bug report | 13:48 |
| Kano | i got that already, what about the kubuntu installer | 13:49 |
| sladen | Kano: alot of the install process is about automation---eg. if there is only one answer, not to ask the question | 13:49 |
| sladen | Kano: is that what you're seeing? | 13:49 |
| sladen | Kano: if there /is/ a bug, it would be good to get it fixed | 13:49 |
| Kano | first of all there is not only 1 option, not only mbr is a target, also the partition | 13:50 |
| Kano | but it just does not install any bootloader - i used manual partition mode without swap partition | 13:50 |
| sladen | Kano: btw, all of the installer logic is in the back-end; the only difference between K/Ubuntu installers is in the frontend GUI | 13:50 |
| Kano | and selected one partition with ext4 / format | 13:50 |
| sladen | Kano: if you're doing things /manually/; do you have a bootable partition selected (eg. the root one) | 13:52 |
| Kano | when i only select / then this is the partition | 13:52 |
| Kano | the initrd is not copied nor recreated | 13:53 |
| Kano | boot/grub empty | 13:53 |
| Kano | i booted from a hybrid usb stick of course | 13:53 |
| sladen | the initramfs is updated by sudo update-initramfs; in-turn called by sudo update-grub | 13:53 |
| Kano | you can be sure i know how to update/create an initrd | 13:54 |
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| sladen | Kano: here in Ubuntu we try to be open and helpful to everyone regardless of prior knowledge, so I hope you'll forgive me for going through all the options | 13:55 |
| Kano | it is part of the installer to do that | 13:55 |
| Kano | and that part was skipped | 13:56 |
| sladen | Kano: yes, and generally the installer manages to create working installations | 13:56 |
| sladen | Kano: but in this case you appear to have managed to create a situation where something has not worked as expected | 13:57 |
| Kano | maybe somebody should test it... | 13:57 |
| sladen | Kano: however, I'm unclear /what/ you sequence you've done, so I'm trying to ask questions to find out | 13:57 |
| ogra_cmpc | it has been tested extensively for alpha3 last week | 13:57 |
| Kano | i used the daily build | 13:58 |
| sladen | Kano: so far, all I've understood is that on the machine in question, it was booted from an USB image, manually partitioned and then has failed to boot | 13:58 |
| ogra_cmpc | if you want a tested image, use that one, if you want to use the daily, file a bug | 13:58 |
| Kano | because no initrd was created and no grub installed | 13:58 |
| sladen | Kano: right, so if it's a bug, please could you assist the development of Ubuntu by filing it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug | 13:59 |
| ogra_cmpc | or use ubuntu-bug if your test install is networked | 14:00 |
| Kano | i think there is a much bigger problem, because the domain is not set, no autologin used, no user created... | 14:04 |
| Kano | will try the alpha3... | 14:04 |
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| Kano | a3 shows a summary screen where to select the bootloader | 14:17 |
| sladen | Kano: so the exact same sequence of keypresses between alpha3 and daily produces a different sequence of output | 14:20 |
| Kano | yes | 14:20 |
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| Kano | well i missed to change the keyboard to no dead keys this time i think | 14:21 |
| sladen | Kano: in which case that clearly is a bug. Please file it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug (or just type 'ubuntu-bug' at the command line and follow the isntructions) | 14:21 |
| sladen | Kano: can you try again with the exact same sequence please---(although it probably a bug either way) | 14:21 |
| sladen | Kano: but bugs can only be followed up and *fixed* when they are tracked the bug tracker (otherwise they just scroll off the top of IRC...) | 14:22 |
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| dholbach | kenvandine: I marked 577486 as patch-forwarded-upstream :) | 15:37 |
| rsavoye | how can I unsubscribe to a launchpad bug email list ? It's obvious how to subcribe, but not to get off | 15:37 |
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| JFo | rsavoye, there should be something by your name or at the top of the list on the bug if you are logged in that would allow you to unsubscribe | 15:46 |
| rsavoye | that's what I thought, but couldn't find it | 15:46 |
| rsavoye | I'd just rather read the bugs via the web page, than overflowing my inbox | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | dholbach, thx | 15:50 |
| rsavoye | JFo: I still don't see it. All I get us a "subscribe to bug mail", and no "unsubscribe" | 15:51 |
| JFo | huh, let me look into it a bit rsavoye | 15:53 |
| rsavoye | I thought this should be simple! :-) | 15:53 |
| JFo | it seems to be though I wonder why you can't see it :) | 15:54 |
| JFo | I juswt checked a bug I am subbed on | 15:54 |
| JFo | at the top of the list of subscribers I see a red circle with a minus and the word unsubscribe | 15:54 |
| JFo | but then | 15:54 |
| JFo | I have also had instances where the edit tag pencil was invisible | 15:55 |
| rsavoye | where is the list of subscribers ? This is for linaro-toolchain | 15:55 |
| JFo | so anything is possible | 15:55 |
| JFo | should be on the right side of the screen | 15:55 |
| rsavoye | I'm obviously not very used to launchpad | 15:55 |
| JFo | heh | 15:55 |
| JFo | no problem | 15:55 |
| rsavoye | so I'm here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain | 15:55 |
| * JFo looks | 15:56 | |
| rsavoye | it's just that right now I get more bug reports than spam... | 15:56 |
| JFo | ah, I see what you mean | 15:56 |
| JFo | one sec | 15:56 |
| rsavoye | whew :-) | 15:56 |
| JFo | let me check something | 15:56 |
| JFo | rsavoye, let me ask someone. seems dumb that there is no unsubscribe | 15:58 |
| rsavoye | thanks, now I feel less like a total idiot | 15:58 |
| JFo | rsavoye, no one could call you any kind of idiot :) | 15:59 |
| rsavoye | hey, it's good to feel stupid once in a while... :-) | 15:59 |
| JFo | heh | 15:59 |
| JFo | are you on a mailing list for the linaro-toolchain? | 16:00 |
| rsavoye | yes, since I'm interested | 16:00 |
| JFo | I just wonder if that is where the mail is coming from | 16:00 |
| JFo | on the bugs | 16:00 |
| rsavoye | got me... | 16:00 |
| rsavoye | the bug email only lists the bug report URL | 16:00 |
| JFo | seems like there should be an unsubscribe for you if you are subscribed | 16:00 |
| JFo | hmmm | 16:00 |
| * JFo tries something | 16:00 | |
| rsavoye | sounds like the borg... once assimilated, you never get out... | 16:01 |
| JFo | heh, yes it does | 16:01 |
| JFo | I may have found you an answer though | 16:01 |
| seb128 | Riddell, jdstrand, james_w: does any of you has some time for binary new today? | 16:01 |
| * directhex has one teeny tiny thing in binary new | 16:02 | |
| JFo | rsavoye, I guess maybe I don't | 16:03 |
| JFo | let me ask someone else | 16:03 |
| JFo | rsavoye, if you go here: https://edge.launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain/+subscribe | 16:05 |
| JFo | are the items checked? | 16:05 |
| james_w | seb128: I shall do some | 16:05 |
| seb128 | james_w, thanks | 16:05 |
| rsavoye | JFo: whre, thanks that did it. | 16:06 |
| JFo | excellent :) | 16:06 |
| rsavoye | maybe this should be more obvious to do for us launchpad newbies | 16:06 |
| JFo | heh, yeah | 16:06 |
| JFo | it wasn't obvious to me either | 16:06 |
| JFo | and I should have known | 16:07 |
| rsavoye | it makes about as much sense as clicking "Start" to shut down a windoze machine... | 16:07 |
| JFo | hah! indeed | 16:07 |
| highvoltage | that's not completely senseless at least, it's like saying "start the shutdown sequence" | 16:07 |
| seb128 | james_w, don't new grail binaries if you do, they are brokenly named | 16:12 |
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| james_w | seb128: thanks | 16:14 |
| RenatoSilva | There was any recent change in behavior of /var/log/auth.log? It seems the system hopefully won't log wrong passowords in this file anymore. | 16:26 |
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| === sistpoty|work changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: FeatureFreeze in effect! | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper-lucid | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | ||
| ogasawara | StevenK: are you on archive admin duty today by chance? If/when you have a moment, could I get the linux (2.6.35-15.21) packages in the New queue accepted? | 17:11 |
| seb128 | doko, could you get https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/maverick/autoconf2.64/lp600991/+merge/29328 in debian? | 17:26 |
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| seb128 | lool, is somebody still going to review bug #599874? | 17:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 599874 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu) "kpackagekit makes apt-get upgrade fail while running" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599874 | 17:32 |
| seb128 | kirkland, hey, could you review the change on bug #591610? | 17:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 591610 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "memory leak" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591610 | 17:34 |
| seb128 | hallyn, ^ if that bug still revelent? | 17:36 |
| seb128 | it seems there was another sru since | 17:36 |
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| ScottK | nhandler: Would you please fix the fridge freeze announcement to just refer to ubuntu-release and not motu-release per robbiew's followup mail. | 17:54 |
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| lool | seb128: Sorry, I'm not very active on the MIR team this cycle | 18:01 |
| lool | seb128: Would be best to ping the other reviewers | 18:01 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi. Any reason why sync in bug #605774 didn't happen? I can't see any.. | 18:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 605774 in Ubuntu "Please sync mozc 0.12.410.102-2 (universe) from Debian unstable(main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605774 | 18:42 |
| mathiaz | pitti: do apport hooks require a FFe? | 18:57 |
| hallyn | seb128: checking (on bug #591610) | 18:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 591610 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "memory leak" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591610 | 18:58 |
| hallyn | tbh i'm confused, i thought that had gone in | 19:00 |
| mathiaz | james_w: hi | 19:04 |
| james_w | hi mathiaz | 19:04 |
| mathiaz | james_w: could you look at apache2 pkg branches? | 19:04 |
| mathiaz | james_w: it seems that they haven't been imported for a while now | 19:04 |
| seb128 | hallyn, could you close it if the recent update fixed the issue? | 19:05 |
| mathiaz | james_w: BTW who should I report these problems to nowadays? | 19:05 |
| james_w | mathiaz: unsure | 19:05 |
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| hallyn | seb128: close the bug you mean? or somehow close the merge request? | 19:07 |
| hallyn | seb128: I'm afraid I can't verify muchof anything right now - getting 12kb/s... | 19:08 |
| seb128 | hallyn, right, close the bug and delete the request | 19:09 |
| pitti | mathiaz: not from my side; please go ahead and add them | 19:10 |
| mathiaz | pitti: great - thanks! | 19:11 |
| hallyn | seb128: ok, thanks, will do (after verifying) | 19:11 |
| mathiaz | pitti: BTW - how do you test apport hooks? | 19:11 |
| pitti | mathiaz: ubuntu-bug mypkg, and then check the details expander | 19:12 |
| mathiaz | pitti: ie making sure that the hook is working correctly (eg no python syntax error) | 19:12 |
| pitti | mathiaz: or, write a small __main__ method which initializes a dict, pass that to your add_info(), and print it | 19:12 |
| mathiaz | pitti: cool - thnaks! | 19:12 |
| pitti | (you can leave that in production) | 19:12 |
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| djzn | any info on 10.04.1 | 19:38 |
| ngenen | Hi there | 20:02 |
| jason_ | hello, I have an OpenGL related question. Anyone know of the correct channel? | 20:05 |
| megabraker | jason_ what about #opengl? | 20:05 |
| jason_ | well I worked with Frame Buffer Objects in OpenGL, which required the use of Render Context's. But this was under Windows | 20:06 |
| jason_ | What I'm trying to figure out is how to set up Render Context's under linux | 20:07 |
| jason_ | the sample I found (under Windows) used wglCreateContext, which I looked at the header and found it was from Microsoft | 20:08 |
| jason_ | so I assume that that will not be present under linux | 20:08 |
| megabraker | jason_ honestly i dont have any idea but are you working with 3d design? | 20:09 |
| jason_ | well I'm working with real-time 3d rendering | 20:09 |
| megabraker | game dev? | 20:09 |
| jason_ | yeah, eventually | 20:10 |
| megabraker | with what language ? | 20:10 |
| jason_ | c++ | 20:10 |
| megabraker | ah is it easy to learn 3d dev? | 20:11 |
| megabraker | i heared that c++ is a lil bit hard | 20:11 |
| ngenen | jason_, this is not the place but.. what do you want to do ? | 20:11 |
| jason_ | well, for me, I am able to go back and forth between c++/c#/vb.net like they are the same thing | 20:11 |
| megabraker | ok thanks | 20:12 |
| ngenen | ok, from the beginning do not under any circunstance compare cpp with vb.net | 20:12 |
| ngenen | -.- | 20:12 |
| jason_ | ngnen, I am actually working cross-platform here, trying to make it so my game is easily portable from windows, linux, and mac OS | 20:13 |
| ngenen | jason_, ogre3d is for you | 20:13 |
| jason_ | hehe, I might use that at some time....but hmmm, you must be suggesting don't try and do it from scratch | 20:14 |
| ngenen | jason_, well.. it's normal start with something "easy" and go depper.. | 20:15 |
| ngenen | not the inverse way.. | 20:15 |
| ngenen | you can't do kernel hacks if you don't know bash.. | 20:15 |
| ngenen | you know what I mean ? | 20:15 |
| jason_ | heh....true | 20:15 |
| ngenen | Ogre3D has Direct3D and OpenGL inside, and its abstracted to work with objects | 20:16 |
| ngenen | so you don't need to lidiate with internal stuff | 20:16 |
| jason_ | btw, this is what I've done in 3d so far | 20:17 |
| jason_ | http://www.youtube.com/user/jviper2004 | 20:17 |
| ngenen | it's better develop in the way "put a light here" than "in the angle 50º looking to the angle 120º, with a refraction of 40% and it ligthing of 80% respect viewport2" | 20:18 |
| ngenen | jason_, doing that on ogre3d would take.. like a day if you're "learning" | 20:19 |
| ngenen | once you know it, it took like.. 15, 20min. of code | 20:19 |
| jason_ | yep | 20:20 |
| ngenen | seriously, go for ogre3d | 20:21 |
| ngenen | you'll thank me | 20:21 |
| jason_ | I'll probably take a look at it, thanks | 20:21 |
| ngenen | :) u welcome | 20:21 |
| Laney | yay for syncs | 20:27 |
| Keybuk | Android scares me | 20:34 |
| alkisg | The gr.archive.ubuntu.com server has been down for about 10 days causing a lot of grief for non-sources.list-savvy people here, can I report that somewhere? | 20:36 |
| JFo | Keybuk, how so? :) | 20:36 |
| alkisg | (i.e. a temporary dns change to map to another greek server) | 20:36 |
| Pici | alkisg: I believe that the sysadmins already know about it, but #canonical-sysadmin would the place to report it. | 20:37 |
| alkisg | Thank you | 20:37 |
| strycore | Hello everyone | 20:38 |
| strycore | Got a tricky question here, it's been bugging me for ages. Here it is : In any GTK program that has text edition capabilities, there is the most annoying behavior with Ctrl+ Delete | 20:40 |
| Keybuk | JFo: using Java as an Operating System | 20:41 |
| JFo | ah, yes... | 20:41 |
| strycore | Ctrl + Delete should erase whitespace until a word is found, and stop but GTK deletes the first word found | 20:41 |
| cody-somerville | Keybuk, I think this might be scarier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JNode | 20:42 |
| strycore | An example of good behaviour is Netbeans btw | 20:44 |
| Keybuk | heh | 20:45 |
| Keybuk | that is scary | 20:45 |
| Keybuk | at least Android don't write their kernel in Java | 20:45 |
| strycore | /* Damn it, I've been writing on the wrong channel all along -_- */ | 20:46 |
| Keybuk | strace -ff pbuilder pbuild ... | 20:48 |
| Keybuk | *sigh* | 20:48 |
| neeraj | If i use debcheckout on a certain package, then it will only download the source of the specific package from the VCS repository maintianed in debian.. right? | 20:50 |
| Laney | It'll check out whatever is in control | 20:50 |
| Keybuk | pbuilder-build.8033:execve("/usr/X11R6/bin/dbus-daemon", ... ) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 20:51 |
| Keybuk | err | 20:51 |
| Keybuk | WTF | 20:51 |
| neeraj | Can i download the source code of a latest released version of a certain package without using dget command on the dsc file? | 20:51 |
| neeraj | Laney: what if I don't have the package with me right now. I just want to quickly download source code of latest release of xyz package in Maverick. | 20:52 |
| Laney | neeraj: If you have a maverick deb-src line, apt-get source package | 20:52 |
| Laney | …or pull-lp-source package if you have ubuntu-dev-tools installed, or bzr branch lp:ubuntu/package | 20:53 |
| Laney | many ways | 20:53 |
| neeraj | Laney: ok Thanks for the pointers. Last question. If I have lucid and wants to download the source code of xyz package from Maverick, then what flag i should use. | 20:54 |
| Keybuk | huh | 20:54 |
| Keybuk | pitti: there? | 20:55 |
| Laney | do any of the others than apt-get source, or add a maverick deb-src line | 20:55 |
| neeraj | Ok. thanks :) | 20:59 |
| Keybuk | so, we no longer install Recommends by default? | 21:13 |
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| ari-tczew | james_w: ping | 21:19 |
| james_w | hi ari-tczew | 21:19 |
| ari-tczew | james_w: hello, are all OK with syncs? | 21:19 |
| ari-tczew | because I see that you uploaded packages, but there are no new uploads in launchpad | 21:19 |
| james_w | excuse me? | 21:20 |
| Laney | I think he's asking about flushing the syncs | 21:20 |
| james_w | ah, yeah, just done that | 21:21 |
| SpamapS | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 7.4.20ubuntu6) | 21:34 |
| SpamapS | hrm... | 21:34 |
| SpamapS | mysql-5.1 depends on a version of debhelper that doesn't exist on my archive mirror.. :( | 21:34 |
| nhandler | ScottK: Done | 21:49 |
| mathiaz | pitti: is there any integration between scripts found in /usr/share/bug/ and apport? | 21:49 |
| ScottK | nhandler: Thanks. | 21:51 |
| Laney | Were recommends of Build-Depends ever installed? | 21:51 |
| ScottK | Laney: No. | 21:51 |
| nhandler | ScottK: You are welcome. He sent the follow-up shortly after I did the Fridge post | 21:51 |
| ScottK | (AFAIK) | 21:51 |
| Laney | I didn't think so | 21:51 |
| Laney | Keybuk: ^^^ | 21:51 |
| Keybuk | Laney: upstart has built before ;-) | 21:51 |
| Keybuk | though I could well believe dbus got installed for some other reason | 21:52 |
| Keybuk | and something else changed | 21:52 |
| soren | SpamapS: Maverick has 8.0.0something. | 22:17 |
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| ScottK | That's a recent change. Probably just mirror lag. | 22:54 |
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| SpamapS | Yeah my mirror seems to not update daily for maverick | 23:14 |
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