[00:02] <SpamapS> mathiaz: ping! - hoping that we can upload moin 1.9.3 before FF tomorrow, if you can take a look at the merge here that would be great: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/moin/+bug/586518
[00:02] <mathiaz> SpamapS: ^^ that's not good ;)
[00:02] <SpamapS> ttx: I added you to the merge proposal too, since you did the last merge just before lucid release
[00:03] <SpamapS> haha
[00:03] <SpamapS> bug 586518
[00:04] <SpamapS> ubottu: I knew you could do it
[00:30] <Guest76764> ...
[00:31] <hlieberman> Better.  Question: What is ubuntu policy on shipping .pc files (for pkg-config)?
[00:31] <hlieberman> It appears that very few packages use them anymore.
[00:33] <TheMuso> hlieberman: Actually, a lot of packages use them. .pc files are shipped in a packages -dev package. So if you have a library, you have libname0 for example, and libname-dev, the .pc pkg-config file goes in libname-dev
[00:34] <micahg> hlieberman: they're fairly common (2114 files in Lucid), is there a specific package missing one
[00:38] <hlieberman> Hm.
[00:38] <hlieberman> One second, let me check why...
[00:55] <hlieberman> Ah, got it. Thanks. :)
[01:47] <tle> I'm looking for an open source project to join and contribute to as a developer. Preferably a smaller project that I can help grow. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[02:08] <RAOF> tle: I'd suggest finding a program that does most of what you want, but has some niggles, and then go on to fix those niggles.
[02:12] <tle> RAOF: thanks
[02:35] <seif> tle, we started a very new small project
[02:35] <seif> tle, do u use python
[02:36] <tle> seif: I have very little experience. mostly C, C++, Objective-C, Java, C#
[02:36] <seif> tle, u can learn python
[02:36] <seif> it is very easy
[02:36] <seif> hi RAOF
[02:36] <tle> seif: so I hear
[02:36] <RAOF> seif: Howdie.
[02:37] <RAOF> Banshee's fun to hack on :)
[02:37] <seif> RAOF, +1
[02:37] <seif> RAOF, banshee seem like it is going to get an extension
[02:37] <seif> did u vote already
[02:37] <seif> ?
[02:37] <seif> for a zeitgeist extension
[02:41] <RAOF> seif: Yeah, I did.
[02:41] <seif> RAOF, AWESOME
[04:12] <kirkland> pitti: howdy!  can you please accept https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=screen for lucid-proposed?
[05:28] <pitti> Good morning
[05:28] <pitti> kirkland: sorry, lucid is still in 10.04.1 freeze
[05:29] <ajmitch> morning pitti
[05:39] <baptistemm> hi there
[05:42] <micahg> if I'm getting unused substitution warnings, but I ran lesspipe and everything looks ok, should I ignorethem/
[06:58] <pitti> cjwatson: good morning! can you please move d-i/lucid-proposed to -updates? (this requires some extra magic)
[07:45] <tjaalton> hey, I see dpkg with the sync() patch is still in lucid-proposed since June 28th, are there issues with it or will it get in updates soon?
[07:46] <micahg> tjaalton: was there verifiication in -proposed?
[07:46] <tjaalton> noticed that installing with ext3 took 35min while ext4 made it double
[07:46] <tjaalton> micahg: the bug shows verification done
[07:46] <tjaalton> oh wait
[07:47] <tjaalton> duh, it is in updates
[07:47] <tjaalton> so the slowdown is something different
[08:00] <dholbach> good morning
[08:07] <dholbach> mvo: bug 586790!
[08:08] <dholbach> mvo: slacker! :-P
[08:09] <mvo> hey dholbach
[08:09]  * dholbach hugs mvo
[08:09] <dholbach> hey slomo
[08:09] <mvo> weeehhh … the sponsoring police
[08:09]  * mvo tries to hide
[08:09] <dholbach> haha
[08:10] <mvo> dholbach: *cough* but you got me, big indanereherenwort to sponsor it today
[08:10] <dholbach> haha
[08:10] <dholbach> just merge it in and upload whenever - I forgot about it myself
[08:10] <dholbach> somebody who was at the session at the time just reminded me
[08:12] <slomo> hi dholbach
[08:27] <garet> hello, I am having trouble with an upstart job that isn't running on boot (works well once booted) and I can't find clues on where it's failing
[08:28] <garet> does anyone know where are traces of the init process ? or how I can make a more detail debug session
[08:31] <dholbach> pitti, lool: to get bug 525512 fixed, I just need to sponsor the diff of bug 525395?
[08:31] <dholbach> DktrKranz: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
[08:33] <pitti> dholbach: I'll just move the package to main; but the backuppc (525395) one needs sponsoring as it seems?
[08:33] <dholbach> pitti: ok, I'm happy to sponsor it
[08:33] <pitti> dholbach: moved to main, I'll update the bug
[08:33] <dholbach> ROCK
[08:34] <dholbach> pitti: muchas gracias
[08:34] <pitti> de nada
[08:48] <DktrKranz> dholbach: THANKS!
[08:53] <dholbach> pitti, lool: what about python-werkzeug, parsedatetime, libapache2-mod-wsgi and python-xappy? did those MIRs make it?
[08:53] <dholbach> (just looking at the moin merge)
[08:54] <lool> I have not been active on MIRs this cycle
[08:54] <lool> asac/pitti/kees/doko did most of the work I think
[08:54] <lool> (sorry for the highlights)
[08:54] <dholbach> lool: slacker! :-P
[08:55] <Laney> is the sync queue going to be processed before FF?
[08:56] <dholbach> "LP will go down for maintenace in 30 seconds."
[08:57] <Laney> good timing
[09:06] <soren> Whuh.... If recvfrom returns 0, am I the only one who'd be surprised to find the message buffer actually populated with data?
[09:08] <dholbach> Laney: nice reply on the motu list
[09:10] <Laney> dholbach: Cheers. I feel like I'm forever redirecting people ;)
[09:10] <dholbach> Laney: don't underestimate the service you're doing with that :)
[09:29] <bilalakhtar> I just used requestsync. Later, I noticed that lp is down for maintainence. What will happen in such a case?
[10:22] <tkamppeter> The upload server is down. "dput" (to main) gives a "[Errno 111] Connection refused".
[10:23] <tkamppeter> I can ping upload.ubuntu.com though.
[10:24] <ttx> nothing like LP maintenance on FeatureFreeze day.
[10:28]  * asac will do MIRs for 1h+ today
[10:40] <tkamppeter> dput server is back.
[10:41] <tkamppeter> Will Thunderbird 3.1 make it into Maverick?
[10:49] <jibel> mvo, Hey, bug 615923 . a keystroke error I guess.
[10:51] <mvo> jibel: *gar* thanks, I have a look
[10:55] <dholbach> MIR people: what about python-werkzeug, parsedatetime, libapache2-mod-wsgi and python-xappy? did those MIRs make it?
[10:59] <pitti> tkamppeter: my hero! *hug* :)
[11:02] <dholbach> ttx: can you or somebody have a second look over the moin merge? it'd be nice to go in, I'm just not sure if all the MIRs made it
[11:03] <mvo> jibel: fix uploaded
[11:03] <ttx> dholbach: I'm on it
[11:03] <dholbach> yeeehaw
[11:24] <tkamppeter> pitti, should we add the pt_BR langpack to the CD as the guy who has written the PPD compression is Brazilian?
[11:27] <ion> tkamppeter: Shouldn’t openprinting-ppds depend on python, btw?
[11:29] <ttx> dholbach: done
[11:29]  * ttx lunches
[11:30] <pitti> tkamppeter: right now pt is on i386 only, but after those savings we can put it back on amd64 as well perhaps :)
[11:39] <tkamppeter> pitti, I have added ${python:Depends} to all binary packages which contain PPD archives.
[11:39] <tkamppeter> ion, ^^
[11:39] <pitti> tkamppeter: oh, why? (those only work if you call dh_pysupport)
[11:41] <pitti> tkamppeter: ah, so the .ppd files are now being generated by a Python module?
[11:41] <tkamppeter> ion, pitti, "dpkg -p openprinting.ppds" gives "Depends: python, xz-utils", does this not come from "${python:Depends}"?
[11:41] <pitti> tkamppeter: seems to be alright
[11:42] <tkamppeter> pitti, yes, the self-extracting archives in /usr/lib/cups/driver/ are Python programs. They only use standard modules and the xz command line utility.
[11:54]  * dholbach hugs ttx
[12:33] <SpamapS> ttx: ^5!
[12:35] <ttx> SpamapS: ⁵
[12:35] <kirkland> pitti: dang, even for -proposed?
[12:53] <Kano> why is isohybrid not called on the iso image? then it would be hybrid
[12:53] <Kano> any specific problem to do so
[12:55] <ogra> Kano, file a but ?
[12:55] <ogra> *bug
[12:56] <ogra> Kano, we just upgraded to a new syslinux and looking at bug 553581 isohybrid wasnt even included in the syslinux package until the 14th
[12:56] <Kano> ogra: the bug was filed last year
[12:57] <ogra> Kano, last year we still used an old syslinux version and i dont think that had any hybrid support, the new syslinux only eneterd ubuntu in maverick
[12:57] <Kano> i know thats why i reported a bug, now syslinux is new enough but no isohybrid script was called on the iso image
[12:58] <Kano> you have to do that on your build-box
[12:58] <ogra> against what is the bug filed ?
[12:59] <ogra> if it needs to happen on the builder, add a task for debian-cd then the cdimage team will see it
[13:00] <Kano> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/524803
[13:02] <ogra> that has an answer from colin with an explanation why its not done yet
[13:02] <Kano> that was 4 weeks ago and nothing changed
[13:02] <ogra> (who in turn is on vacation)
[13:02] <ogra> just be patient
[13:03] <Kano> it is still the case that all other distos which i test / create can do that since last year
[13:03] <ogra> we are not "other distros"
[13:04] <Kano> yes u is special, not always in a good way ;)
[13:04] <ogra> cdimage team is obviously aware and the person working on it is on holiday
[13:36] <Kano> why does the kubuntu installer not ask for a bootloader target?
[13:36] <Kano> also it seems the installer ist broken anyway...
[13:48] <sladen> Kano: the person who looks after cdimage/syslinux build is on holiday.  If you want them to get your feedback, can you post it on the bug report
[13:49] <Kano> i got that already, what about the kubuntu installer
[13:49] <sladen> Kano: alot of the install process is about automation---eg. if there is only one answer, not to ask the question
[13:49] <sladen> Kano: is that what you're seeing?
[13:49] <sladen> Kano: if there /is/ a bug, it would be good to get it fixed
[13:50] <Kano> first of all there is not only 1 option, not only mbr is a target, also the partition
[13:50] <Kano> but it just does not install any bootloader - i used manual partition mode without swap partition
[13:50] <sladen> Kano: btw, all of the installer logic is in the back-end;  the only difference between K/Ubuntu installers is in the frontend GUI
[13:50] <Kano> and selected one partition with ext4 / format
[13:52] <sladen> Kano: if you're doing things /manually/;  do you have a bootable partition selected (eg. the root one)
[13:52] <Kano> when i only select / then this is the partition
[13:53] <Kano> the initrd is not copied nor recreated
[13:53] <Kano> boot/grub empty
[13:53] <Kano> i booted from a hybrid usb stick of course
[13:53] <sladen> the initramfs is updated by  sudo update-initramfs;  in-turn called by  sudo update-grub
[13:54] <Kano> you can be sure i know how to update/create an initrd
[13:55] <sladen> Kano: here in Ubuntu we try to be open and helpful to everyone regardless of prior knowledge, so I hope you'll forgive me for going through all the options
[13:55] <Kano> it is part of the installer to do that
[13:56] <Kano> and that part was skipped
[13:56] <sladen> Kano: yes, and generally the installer manages to create working installations
[13:57] <sladen> Kano: but in this case you appear to have managed to create a situation where something has not worked as expected
[13:57] <Kano> maybe somebody should test it...
[13:57] <sladen> Kano: however, I'm unclear /what/ you sequence you've done, so I'm trying to ask questions to find out
[13:57] <ogra_cmpc> it has been tested extensively for alpha3 last week
[13:58] <Kano> i used the daily build
[13:58] <sladen> Kano: so far, all I've understood is that on the machine in question, it was booted from an USB image, manually partitioned and then has failed to boot
[13:58] <ogra_cmpc> if you want a tested image, use that one, if you want to use the daily, file a bug
[13:58] <Kano> because no initrd was created and no grub installed
[13:59] <sladen> Kano: right, so if it's a bug, please could you assist the development of Ubuntu by filing it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug
[14:00] <ogra_cmpc> or use ubuntu-bug if your test install is networked
[14:04] <Kano> i think there is a much bigger problem, because the domain is not set, no autologin used, no user created...
[14:04] <Kano> will try the alpha3...
[14:17] <Kano> a3 shows a summary screen where to select the bootloader
[14:20] <sladen> Kano: so the exact same sequence of keypresses between alpha3 and daily produces a different sequence of output
[14:20] <Kano> yes
[14:21] <Kano> well i missed to change the keyboard to no dead keys this time i think
[14:21] <sladen> Kano: in which case that clearly is a bug.  Please file it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug (or just type 'ubuntu-bug' at the command line and follow the isntructions)
[14:21] <sladen> Kano: can you try again with the exact same sequence please---(although it probably a bug either way)
[14:22] <sladen> Kano: but bugs can only be followed up and *fixed* when they are tracked the bug tracker (otherwise they just scroll off the top of IRC...)
[15:37] <dholbach> kenvandine: I marked 577486 as patch-forwarded-upstream :)
[15:37] <rsavoye> how can I unsubscribe to a launchpad bug email list ? It's obvious how to subcribe, but not to get off
[15:46] <JFo> rsavoye, there should be something by your name or at the top of the list on the bug if you are logged in that would allow you to unsubscribe
[15:46] <rsavoye> that's what I thought, but couldn't find it
[15:49] <rsavoye> I'd just rather read the bugs via the web page, than overflowing my inbox
[15:50] <kenvandine> dholbach, thx
[15:51] <rsavoye> JFo: I still don't see it. All I get us a "subscribe to bug mail", and no "unsubscribe"
[15:53] <JFo> huh, let me look into it a bit rsavoye
[15:53] <rsavoye> I thought this should be simple! :-)
[15:54] <JFo> it seems to be though I wonder why you can't see it :)
[15:54] <JFo> I juswt checked a bug I am subbed on
[15:54] <JFo> at the top of the list of subscribers I see a red circle with a minus and the word unsubscribe
[15:54] <JFo> but then
[15:55] <JFo> I have also had instances where the edit tag pencil was invisible
[15:55] <rsavoye> where is the list of subscribers ? This is for linaro-toolchain
[15:55] <JFo> so anything is possible
[15:55] <JFo> should be on the right side of the screen
[15:55] <rsavoye> I'm obviously not very used to launchpad
[15:55] <JFo> heh
[15:55] <JFo> no problem
[15:55] <rsavoye> so I'm here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain
[15:56]  * JFo looks
[15:56] <rsavoye> it's just that right now I get more bug reports than spam...
[15:56] <JFo> ah, I see what you mean
[15:56] <JFo> one sec
[15:56] <rsavoye> whew :-)
[15:56] <JFo> let me check something
[15:58] <JFo> rsavoye, let me ask someone. seems dumb that there is no unsubscribe
[15:58] <rsavoye> thanks, now I feel less like a total idiot
[15:59] <JFo> rsavoye, no one could call you any kind of idiot :)
[15:59] <rsavoye> hey, it's good to feel stupid once in a while... :-)
[15:59] <JFo> heh
[16:00] <JFo> are you on a mailing list for the linaro-toolchain?
[16:00] <rsavoye> yes, since I'm interested
[16:00] <JFo> I just wonder if that is where the mail is coming from
[16:00] <JFo> on the bugs
[16:00] <rsavoye> got me...
[16:00] <rsavoye> the bug email only lists the bug report URL
[16:00] <JFo> seems like there should be an unsubscribe for you if you are subscribed
[16:00] <JFo> hmmm
[16:00]  * JFo tries something
[16:01] <rsavoye> sounds like the borg... once assimilated, you never get out...
[16:01] <JFo> heh, yes it does
[16:01] <JFo> I may have found you an answer though
[16:01] <seb128> Riddell, jdstrand, james_w: does any of you has some time for binary new today?
[16:02]  * directhex has one teeny tiny thing in binary new
[16:03] <JFo> rsavoye, I guess maybe I don't
[16:03] <JFo> let me ask someone else
[16:05] <JFo> rsavoye, if you go here: https://edge.launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain/+subscribe
[16:05] <JFo> are the items checked?
[16:05] <james_w> seb128: I shall do some
[16:05] <seb128> james_w, thanks
[16:06] <rsavoye> JFo: whre, thanks that did it.
[16:06] <JFo> excellent :)
[16:06] <rsavoye> maybe this should be more obvious to do for us launchpad newbies
[16:06] <JFo> heh, yeah
[16:06] <JFo> it wasn't obvious to me either
[16:07] <JFo> and I should have known
[16:07] <rsavoye> it makes about as much sense as clicking "Start" to shut down a windoze machine...
[16:07] <JFo> hah! indeed
[16:07] <highvoltage> that's not completely senseless at least, it's like saying "start the shutdown sequence"
[16:12] <seb128> james_w, don't new grail binaries if you do, they are brokenly named
[16:14] <james_w> seb128: thanks
[16:26] <RenatoSilva> There was any recent change in behavior of /var/log/auth.log? It seems the system hopefully won't log wrong passowords in this file anymore.
[17:11] <ogasawara> StevenK: are you on archive admin duty today by chance?  If/when you have a moment, could I get the linux (2.6.35-15.21) packages in the New queue accepted?
[17:26] <seb128> doko, could you get https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/maverick/autoconf2.64/lp600991/+merge/29328 in debian?
[17:32] <seb128> lool, is somebody still going to review bug #599874?
[17:34] <seb128> kirkland, hey, could you review the change on bug #591610?
[17:36] <seb128> hallyn, ^ if that bug still revelent?
[17:36] <seb128> it seems there was another sru since
[17:54] <ScottK> nhandler: Would you please fix the fridge freeze announcement to just refer to ubuntu-release and not motu-release per robbiew's followup mail.
[18:01] <lool> seb128: Sorry, I'm not very active on the MIR team this cycle
[18:01] <lool> seb128: Would be best to ping the other reviewers
[18:42] <fabrice_sp> Hi. Any reason why sync in bug #605774 didn't happen? I can't see any..
[18:57] <mathiaz> pitti: do apport hooks require a FFe?
[18:58] <hallyn> seb128: checking (on bug #591610)
[19:00] <hallyn> tbh i'm confused, i thought that had gone in
[19:04] <mathiaz> james_w: hi
[19:04] <james_w> hi mathiaz
[19:04] <mathiaz> james_w: could you look at apache2 pkg branches?
[19:04] <mathiaz> james_w: it seems that they haven't been imported for a while now
[19:05] <seb128> hallyn, could you close it if the recent update fixed the issue?
[19:05] <mathiaz> james_w: BTW who should I report these problems to nowadays?
[19:05] <james_w> mathiaz: unsure
[19:07] <hallyn> seb128: close the bug you mean?  or somehow close the merge request?
[19:08] <hallyn> seb128: I'm afraid I can't verify muchof anything right now - getting 12kb/s...
[19:09] <seb128> hallyn, right, close the bug and delete the request
[19:10] <pitti> mathiaz: not from my side; please go ahead and add them
[19:11] <mathiaz> pitti: great - thanks!
[19:11] <hallyn> seb128: ok, thanks, will do (after verifying)
[19:11] <mathiaz> pitti: BTW - how do you test apport hooks?
[19:12] <pitti> mathiaz: ubuntu-bug mypkg, and then check the details expander
[19:12] <mathiaz> pitti: ie making sure that the hook is working correctly (eg no python syntax error)
[19:12] <pitti> mathiaz: or, write a small __main__ method which initializes a dict, pass that to your add_info(), and print it
[19:12] <mathiaz> pitti: cool - thnaks!
[19:12] <pitti> (you can leave that in production)
[19:38] <djzn> any info on 10.04.1
[20:02] <ngenen> Hi there
[20:05] <jason_> hello, I have an OpenGL related question. Anyone know of the correct channel?
[20:05] <megabraker> jason_ what about #opengl?
[20:06] <jason_> well I worked with Frame Buffer Objects in OpenGL, which required the use of Render Context's. But this was under Windows
[20:07] <jason_> What I'm trying to figure out is how to set up Render Context's under linux
[20:08] <jason_> the sample I found (under Windows) used wglCreateContext, which I looked at the header and found it was from Microsoft
[20:08] <jason_> so I assume that that will not be present under linux
[20:09] <megabraker> jason_ honestly i dont have any idea but are you working with 3d design?
[20:09] <jason_> well I'm working with real-time 3d rendering
[20:09] <megabraker> game dev?
[20:10] <jason_> yeah, eventually
[20:10] <megabraker> with what language ?
[20:10] <jason_> c++
[20:11] <megabraker> ah is it easy to learn 3d dev?
[20:11] <megabraker> i heared that c++ is a lil bit hard
[20:11] <ngenen> jason_, this is not the place but.. what do you want to do ?
[20:11] <jason_> well, for me, I am able to go back and forth between c++/c#/vb.net like they are the same thing
[20:12] <megabraker> ok thanks
[20:12] <ngenen> ok, from the beginning do not under any circunstance compare cpp with vb.net
[20:12] <ngenen> -.-
[20:13] <jason_> ngnen, I am actually working cross-platform here, trying to make it so my game is easily portable from windows, linux, and mac OS
[20:13] <ngenen> jason_, ogre3d is for you
[20:14] <jason_> hehe, I might use that at some time....but hmmm, you must be suggesting don't try and do it from scratch
[20:15] <ngenen> jason_, well.. it's normal start with something "easy" and go depper..
[20:15] <ngenen> not the inverse way..
[20:15] <ngenen> you can't do kernel hacks if you don't know bash..
[20:15] <ngenen> you know what I mean ?
[20:15] <jason_> heh....true
[20:16] <ngenen> Ogre3D has Direct3D and OpenGL inside, and its abstracted to work with objects
[20:16] <ngenen> so you don't need to lidiate with internal stuff
[20:17] <jason_> btw, this is what I've done in 3d so far
[20:17] <jason_> http://www.youtube.com/user/jviper2004
[20:18] <ngenen> it's better develop in the way "put a light here" than "in the angle 50º looking to the angle 120º, with a refraction of 40% and it ligthing of 80% respect viewport2"
[20:19] <ngenen> jason_, doing that on ogre3d would take.. like a day if you're "learning"
[20:19] <ngenen> once you know it, it took like.. 15, 20min. of code
[20:20] <jason_> yep
[20:21] <ngenen> seriously, go for ogre3d
[20:21] <ngenen> you'll thank me
[20:21] <jason_> I'll probably take a look at it, thanks
[20:21] <ngenen> :) u welcome
[20:27] <Laney> yay for syncs
[20:34] <Keybuk> Android scares me
[20:36] <alkisg> The gr.archive.ubuntu.com server has been down for about 10 days causing a lot of grief for non-sources.list-savvy people here, can I report that somewhere?
[20:36] <JFo> Keybuk, how so? :)
[20:36] <alkisg> (i.e. a temporary dns change to map to another greek server)
[20:37] <Pici> alkisg: I believe that the sysadmins already know about it, but #canonical-sysadmin would the place to report it.
[20:37] <alkisg> Thank you
[20:38] <strycore> Hello everyone
[20:40] <strycore> Got a tricky question here, it's been bugging me for ages. Here it is : In any GTK program that has text edition capabilities, there is the most annoying behavior with  Ctrl+ Delete
[20:41] <Keybuk> JFo: using Java as an Operating System
[20:41] <JFo> ah, yes...
[20:41] <strycore> Ctrl + Delete should erase whitespace until a word is found, and stop but GTK deletes the first word found
[20:42] <cody-somerville> Keybuk, I think this might be scarier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JNode
[20:44] <strycore> An example of good behaviour is Netbeans btw
[20:45] <Keybuk> heh
[20:45] <Keybuk> that is scary
[20:45] <Keybuk> at least Android don't write their kernel in Java
[20:46] <strycore>  /*  Damn it, I've been writing on the wrong channel all along -_- */
[20:48] <Keybuk> strace -ff pbuilder pbuild ...
[20:48] <Keybuk> *sigh*
[20:50] <neeraj> If i use debcheckout on a certain package, then it will only download the source of the specific package from the VCS repository maintianed in debian.. right?
[20:50] <Laney> It'll check out whatever is in control
[20:51] <Keybuk> pbuilder-build.8033:execve("/usr/X11R6/bin/dbus-daemon", ... ) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[20:51] <Keybuk> err
[20:51] <Keybuk> WTF
[20:51] <neeraj> Can i download the source code of a latest released version of a certain package without using dget command on the dsc file?
[20:52] <neeraj> Laney: what if I don't have the package with me right now. I just want to quickly download source code of latest release of xyz package in Maverick.
[20:52] <Laney> neeraj: If you have a maverick deb-src line, apt-get source package
[20:53] <Laney> …or pull-lp-source package if you have ubuntu-dev-tools installed, or bzr branch lp:ubuntu/package
[20:53] <Laney> many ways
[20:54] <neeraj> Laney: ok Thanks for the pointers. Last question. If I have lucid and wants to download the source code of xyz package from Maverick, then what flag i should use.
[20:54] <Keybuk> huh
[20:55] <Keybuk> pitti: there?
[20:55] <Laney> do any of the others than apt-get source, or add a maverick deb-src line
[20:59] <neeraj> Ok. thanks :)
[21:13] <Keybuk> so, we no longer install Recommends by default?
[21:19] <ari-tczew> james_w: ping
[21:19] <james_w> hi ari-tczew
[21:19] <ari-tczew> james_w: hello, are all OK with syncs?
[21:19] <ari-tczew> because I see that you uploaded packages, but there are no new uploads in launchpad
[21:20] <james_w> excuse me?
[21:20] <Laney> I think he's asking about flushing the syncs
[21:21] <james_w> ah, yeah, just done that
[21:34] <SpamapS> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 7.4.20ubuntu6)
[21:34] <SpamapS> hrm...
[21:34] <SpamapS> mysql-5.1 depends on a version of debhelper that doesn't exist on my archive mirror.. :(
[21:49] <nhandler> ScottK: Done
[21:49] <mathiaz> pitti: is there any integration between scripts found in /usr/share/bug/ and apport?
[21:51] <ScottK> nhandler: Thanks.
[21:51] <Laney> Were recommends of Build-Depends ever installed?
[21:51] <ScottK> Laney: No.
[21:51] <nhandler> ScottK: You are welcome. He sent the follow-up shortly after I did the Fridge post
[21:51] <ScottK> (AFAIK)
[21:51] <Laney> I didn't think so
[21:51] <Laney> Keybuk: ^^^
[21:51] <Keybuk> Laney: upstart has built before ;-)
[21:52] <Keybuk> though I could well believe dbus got installed for some other reason
[21:52] <Keybuk> and something else changed
[22:17] <soren> SpamapS: Maverick has 8.0.0something.
[22:54] <ScottK> That's a recent change.  Probably just mirror lag.
[23:14] <SpamapS> Yeah my mirror seems to not update daily for maverick