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Kangarooohello in #xubunut bot doesnt respond to bug 61186913:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 611869 in Ubuntu IRC Bots "doesnt replies to bug bugnummber in #xubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61186913:20
Kangarooolike it does it here13:20
charlie-tcaYou are correct. You have reported this already here, too.13:20
Kangaroooand it still not fixed. no one from irc team has replied to bug and hasnt fixed. its just an irc script..13:22
Kangaroooscript works as we see here so bot has some limitation in script for executing response in #xubuntu .. maybe by accident. thats all i can think of what could be wrong to that bot13:23
PiciKangarooo: The bot doesn't reply in #ubuntu or #kubuntu either.  Is there a reason why it should reply in #xubuntu?13:23
Picirather, it doesn't reply to bugs in #k or #u13:23
Kangaroooyes its easyr to post short version just bug and nr not whole link in irc text line. so it will be removed? bot isnt needed?13:24
KangaroooPici: so it should reply in all ubuntu channels as it was in past13:25
PiciHow often are bug #s posted there?13:25
PiciKangarooo: When was the last time that it replied in #xubuntu to bugs? I don't recall us doing that in any of the main support channels13:25
Kangarooowhy u ask? if giving some exact nr will change something?13:25
jpdsYes.13:26
Kangarooois a reason if only 20 bug # are there a day a reason to remove it from channel? its written that that bug needs to be in that channel and work there13:26
charlie-tcaI don't think we ever had 20 bug numbers a day in #xubuntu13:27
Kangaroooyes now i cheched it looks like 0-2 but sometimes max 5 (only one day as now checking only few irc logs) Pici13:29
Kangarooowhy then isnt bug respone working in xubuntu and as now i get info also in ubuntu and kubuntu ?13:31
PiciKangarooo: The bug parsing isn't enabled in #ubuntu or #kubuntu either.13:31
jpdsKangarooo: The bot doesn't reply to bug commands in #ubuntu or #kubuntu13:31
Kangarooobut why? is irc script crashed or it specially removed?13:32
jpdsKangarooo: It's removed as they are user channels.13:32
Kangarooook problem is that there should be 2 bots ubottu for bug responses and ubuntulog for logging. log bot isnt there ubottu doesnt work13:36
Kangarooo*log bot is there..13:36
nhandlerKangarooo: ubottu does more than just display links to bugs13:37
Kangarooofacts its giving. and bug responses.. something more also?13:38
PiciKangarooo: ban tracking.13:40
Kangaroooall exept responses to LP bug nr work. why then bug responses doesnt work? why it was working in past?13:42
Kangarooowhat has changed?13:42
jpdsKangarooo: Because they were turned off in the support channels13:44
Kangaroooyes cool. but why?13:44
Kangarooowhat has changed to be turned them off?13:45
Kangarooois it bad that it helps giving bug description?13:45
Kangaroooits taking too much LP traffic?13:46
PiciKangarooo: It takes more bot processing power.13:57
Kangaroooso 0-2 bugs a day in #xubuntu takes some processing power but not a lot. also ubottu is already sitting in xubuntu and kubuntu and ubuntu . if ubuntu consumes a lot then kick bot out and put new bot to log. but for xubuntu i cant image how can be taken processing power of comp on witch bot is running.14:00
PiciKangarooo: It needs to inspect every line of traffic for a bug# or url.  None of the other bot plugins need to do that.14:02
Kangarooobot already sits in thouse channels and reads and logs all. that should take a lot but making 2 less bug nr responses is not big help to cool script comp14:02
PiciKangarooo: ubottu doesn't log.14:02
bazhangit works with /msg ubottu here14:02
k1lKangarooo: maybe it logs already, but it needs processing power to read and handle the logs for the bug ids. that is the problem14:03
Kangaroooim sure theres channel witch posts more bug nr then in xubuntu14:03
Kangaroooexample #ubuntu-bugs14:03
Kangarooo:)14:03
bazhangKangarooo, /msg ubottu it works fine14:04
PiciKangarooo: We actually have a different bot in #ubuntu-bugs to deal with bug parsing.14:05
Kangarooohow much removing bug nr responses from xubuntu helped save processing power?14:06
Kangarooobazhang: /msg ubottu bug 1 ? doesnt save time as just bug 1 did14:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114:07
k1lKangarooo: its removed for all channels. why are you taking this so personally?14:07
bazhangKangarooo, I always keep a /msg open with ubottu14:07
Kangarooobtw bazhang i got different response from /msg ubottu bug 1 then in this chan. and opening /msg with ubottu isnt replacing as it was in past - posting in channel gives response in channel. msg ubottu gives back private. still processing power is used and since only private is procesed power result given then return of investment is very low on saving time14:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114:10
bazhangKangarooo, I doubt it will be activated in support channels. too much noise for one.14:10
Kangarooowhy u doubt? all info is already writen. takes procesing but in private ubbotu can process and takes same processing power but less ppl get time saved.. they need to still open link to see if they know about bug reported programm or not..14:12
bazhangKangarooo, it wont happen.14:13
Kangaroooif everyone who is in channel get bug nr then if all now will write /msg ubottu bug nr then really more processing power will be taken.14:13
Kangaroooalso removing from ubuntu bug nr respones already a lot processing power is saved. is needed a new server for bot?14:14
Kangarooobtw ubottu doesnt replies in prive for bug bugnr14:21
PiciIt does for me.14:23
bazhangsame14:24
PiciKangarooo: I'll bring it up during the next IRCC meeting, but I doubt that any action will be taken.14:24
Kangarooono in private it doesnt work is its bad replacement. try bug 611869   or bug 2 ion private. bug 1 is like factoin maybe set couse it gives wrong info14:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 611869 in Ubuntu IRC Bots "doesnt replies to bug bugnummber in #xubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61186914:27
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: 2 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/2)14:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114:27
Picibug 1 is a factoid.14:27
Kangaroooso its bad replacement14:27
PiciKangarooo: Its possible that its working for us because we're operators.14:28
Kangaroooso even replacement doesnt work.14:29
Kangaroooand also replacemnt will still take processing power.14:29
charlie-tcaOf course, there is always the idea that we don't actually need this in #xubuntu, too14:30
Kangaroooyes but now is bigger problems- processing power consumption.14:31
charlie-tcaThat is not our problem. It just is not needed14:31
Kangarooosince that is saved by removing bug nr help in ubuntu still it should be working in xubuntu14:31
PiciKangarooo: I've added it to the IRCC meeting agenda, if you can attend that would be great, otherwise I'll just bring it up for discussion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda14:33
Kangaroooin witch channel will be meeting in that wiki isnt writen. in #ubuntu-meeting ?15:48
PiciKangarooo: Yes.15:50
vishKangarooo: salem :D15:52
* vish hides15:52
Kangarooovish: whats salem?16:00
vishKangarooo: "witch channel" ;)16:01
Kangarooo8/ ?in witch language?16:01
Kangaroooabout what channel u ask? where meeting will be or where bot doesnt work?16:02
vishKangarooo: hmm, nevermind,  i thought that was a typo in your previous question :)16:02
Kangarooobot doesnt work in #xubuntu and #kubuntu and #ubuntu and meeting will be in #ubuntu-meeting16:02
vishKangarooo: yes the meeting will be held in #ubuntu-meeting16:03
Kangaroooyes thats correct16:03
Zichi, I am one of #ubuntu-fr* channel administrator contact and we want to drop #ubuntu-fr-geeks (our old #ubuntu-fr-ops) but I cannot get a contact with the actual +F16:26
Zic(who was in the past also a contact-admin of our team)16:26
nhandlerjussi, tsimpson, Pici, topyli:  ^^^ (racoon97, the founder was last seen 24 weeks ago)16:38
PiciZic: You just want the channel dropped, or would you like control?16:42
ZicPici: just drop it, we were not planning to use it in the futur16:45
Picinhandler: Could you please drop that channel?16:45
nhandlerPici: Yep, one second16:46
Zics/futur/future/16:46
nhandlerZic: It has been dropped16:47
Zicnhandler: thank you ;)16:48
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