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| chrisccoulson | micahg - have mozilla added any support for the messaging indicator in to thunderbird? | 00:37 |
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| chrisccoulson | or are they planning to? | 00:38 |
| rsavoye | I'm cleaning up my packaging dependencies right now... | 00:39 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: idk, I think that was deferred to 3.2, but I was going to add some simple options to the menu like compose, someone submitted a patch | 00:39 |
| micahg | so TB will appear, just not technically integrated | 00:40 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i was thinking about writing an extension to implement support for it | 00:40 |
| chrisccoulson | we can use ctypes in TB3.1 :) | 00:40 |
| chrisccoulson | which should make it much easeir to do | 00:40 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: oh, well, I guess that's fine and we can recommend it on install | 00:40 |
| chrisccoulson | that's maverick +1 work though, but something we can talk about at UDS | 00:41 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: you know that stuff much better than I do, I haven't do any extension dev (creation) work yet | 00:41 |
| micahg | cool, maybe we should do the same for notifications | 00:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i've only written 1 extension so far ;) | 00:41 |
| micahg | that's one more than me :)( | 00:41 |
| chrisccoulson | but i should write some more before i forget everything | 00:41 |
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| === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 (Now in Mozilla Daily PPA) Coming to Maverick This Week | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming Mid August | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Firefox 4.0 dailies should be working again | ||
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| asac | chrisccoulson: brian dropped the Xb-... plugin headers from adobe-flashplugin again it seems | 11:08 |
| asac | can you poke him to keep this fixed? | 11:08 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - yeah, sure | 11:08 |
| chrisccoulson | asac, the alternative branding stuff is giving me a headache in FF4. if you switch between the 2 different branding packages now, you have to manually delete XUL.mfasl from your profile folder, else the old branding remains cached :/ | 12:03 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: firefox 4 is not fixed as title of channel says | 13:10 |
| gnomefreak | nevermind i think | 13:11 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, what's up? it's working fine here | 13:32 |
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| fishor | hallo all, [firefox-4.0] i choise to display some video (ogg or webm) in full screen and it will have some strange flickering. | 14:25 |
| fishor | can any one confirm it? | 14:25 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: its working here too but yesterday when i did updates it didnt configure but i fixed it | 14:26 |
| mdeslaur | what do you guys thing about bug #612185 | 14:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 612185 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Apport leaks the secret name of the Firefox profile directory (affects: 1) (heat: 783)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612185 | 14:28 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, i have no opinion either way. i can change it if you think it's the right thing to do | 14:30 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: yes, I think it should be changed | 14:31 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: can I assign the bug to you? | 14:32 |
| gnomefreak | !freenode | 14:32 |
| ubot2 | freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml. freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml. The ubuntu channels on freenode also have their own !guidelines | 14:32 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, yeah, no problem | 14:33 |
| mdeslaur | gnomefreak: ? | 14:34 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: cool, thanks | 14:34 |
| gnomefreak | mdeslaur: huh? | 14:34 |
| mdeslaur | gnomefreak: oh, thought you did that with relation to something we said | 14:34 |
| gnomefreak | mdeslaur: no im working on something atm | 14:36 |
| gnomefreak | sort of | 14:36 |
| mdeslaur | gnomefreak: oh, cool...sorry for the noise | 14:36 |
| gnomefreak | np | 14:37 |
| rsavoye | chrisccoulson: I fixed the nasty alternatives for boost in the gnash control file, new snapshot up on getgnash.org | 14:39 |
| chrisccoulson | rsavoye, awesome, thanks. i'll have a look at that this afternoon | 14:39 |
| rsavoye | I'll be out this afternoon, but if you see more stuff I should improve, let me know | 14:39 |
| rsavoye | btw, we build gnash now with support for both ffmpeg and gstreamer, but I assume for Ubuntu, you'd only want gst | 14:41 |
| rsavoye | it's selectable at runtime, same for rendering backends | 14:41 |
| gnomefreak | anyone know a Yawner(nick) | 14:44 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: you are now and op in here and you have all rights to topic and everything else you may need to do | 14:56 |
| gnomefreak | ^^ per talk the other day | 14:56 |
| gnomefreak | ok be back smoke | 14:58 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, Yawner? i don't know that person | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | hey \o | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | i was just handed https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/519/ to package, any other similar packages that i can look at ? :) | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | chrisccoulson: around? | 15:49 |
| chrisccoulson | hi | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | hi i was told by Riddell that youll be able to help me out ;) | 15:51 |
| chrisccoulson | yes, possibly | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | is there a compelling reason to package that extension though? | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | we're trying to keep the number of extensions in the archive at a bare minimum | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | id guess because its important... id have to check with ScottK tho | 15:53 |
| * ScottK waves at shadeslayer. | 15:54 | |
| * shadeslayer waves back | 15:54 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: http://pastebin.com/ct00QPHq | 15:54 |
| chrisccoulson | hi ScottK | 15:54 |
| ScottK | Hello chrisccoulson | 15:54 |
| ScottK | chrisccoulson: We've done a major push this cycle on getting Kolab updated and integrated on the server side: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-kolab | 15:55 |
| ScottK | We're doing some KDE specific packages on the client side, but Kolab isn't KDE specific, so we want to provide this extension too. | 15:56 |
| chrisccoulson | how well maintained is the extension? | 15:56 |
| ScottK | Not sure. | 15:56 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't mind accepting it, but my only reservation is because we have to support it for the life of the release | 15:56 |
| ScottK | Upstream for Kolab, Kolab Systems is engaged with us on improving Kolab support in Ubuntu. | 15:57 |
| chrisccoulson | which will most likely include several iterations of thunderbird major versions too | 15:57 |
| ScottK | Right. I'm familiar with that problem. | 15:57 |
| chrisccoulson | is that the latest version of the extension? | 15:57 |
| chrisccoulson | it says it only works with TB3.0.x | 15:58 |
| ScottK | Which is what we have at the moment. | 15:58 |
| chrisccoulson | but we're just about ready to push 3.1.x to lucid and maverick | 15:58 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 15:58 |
| ScottK | Didn't realize that. | 15:58 |
| chrisccoulson | 3.0.x is approaching EOL ;) | 15:58 |
| chrisccoulson | or, at least it most likely will be quite soon | 15:58 |
| ScottK | OK. In that case, we should wait to package it until there's one that supports 3.1. | 15:58 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, sure | 15:59 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: ^^^ | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | ok :) | 15:59 |
| ScottK | I'll investigate. | 15:59 |
| ScottK | See you later. | 15:59 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | bye from me too :) | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | chrisccoulson: thanks :D | 15:59 |
| chrisccoulson | yw | 15:59 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: thanks | 16:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: did you see the bug about standalone chatzilla? | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i did. what do you think about it? it doesn't look like it uses any binary components, which is a plus | 16:04 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: no go, upstream is stuck on xulrunner 1.9 IMHO | 16:05 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i didn't realist that | 16:05 |
| micahg | they take the chatzilla from seamonkey and throw it on top of xulrunner, but it's not kept up to date from what I can see | 16:06 |
| micahg | also at the moment, SM is xul191 and we have xul192 | 16:06 |
| micahg | even if we did it ourselves, it wouldn't be easy, I don't think it's worth it | 16:06 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, makes sense. i'll let you comment on the bug if you like | 16:06 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: do you notice any improvement in webm since I updated yasm in maverick? | 16:16 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - it's quite choppy on my laptop still, but i'm not sure if that's due to my graphics drivers | 16:16 |
| micahg | just curious... | 16:17 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: the good news is TB3.1.2 seems very stable, just a memory hog | 16:17 |
| chrisccoulson | are you testing it in maverick or lucid? | 16:18 |
| micahg | lucid | 16:18 |
| micahg | do you want to test in maverick? I can push up debs to my PPA | 16:18 |
| micahg | no enigmail yet, I'll have that later tonight | 16:19 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, sure. i can test that | 16:19 |
| chrisccoulson | did you resolve the upgrade issue too? | 16:19 |
| micahg | not yet, not quite sure why it's doing that, I was going to check to make sure the files didn't end up in the wrong package later | 16:19 |
| * micahg can't remember where the TB upload dir is ATM | 16:21 | |
| * micahg applies for FFe for TB31 :) | 16:25 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: should be ready for maverick in about an hour: ppa:micahg/mozilla-test | 16:46 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, thanks | 16:47 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: also, weirdly ff369 failed on the crashreporter patch, but the file hasn't been modified upstream, so I'm confused | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | strange, i'll have a look at that in a bit | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - did you notice any improvement with the updated yasm? | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm just wondering whether to try FF4 on my desktop, which has better graphics HW | 17:12 |
| chrisccoulson | but that's running lucid :/ | 17:12 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I don't have it actually | 17:12 |
| micahg | If there was a difference, I was going to upload to umd | 17:12 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i can't really tell too much. the performance here is quite bad | 17:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll try my desktop | 17:13 |
| === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.8 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 (Now in Mozilla Daily PPA) Coming to Maverick and Stable PPA Soon | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA coming Mid August | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPMLv | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Firefox 4.0 dailies should be working again | ||
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - ok, webgl is quite significantly faster on my nvidia desktop | 17:25 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: cool, I'm curious how it compares to yasm 0.8 | 17:27 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i'll build yasm on my lucid box and rebuild firefox with it later | 17:27 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: I think it has to do more w/the CPU overhead than anything else | 17:28 |
| chrisccoulson_ | it's pretty CPU heavy | 17:29 |
| chrisccoulson_ | oh yes | 17:30 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i just closed the tab with webgl content and it stopped using 100% cpu ;) | 17:30 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - so, you think the updated yasm will help with the CPU overhead? | 17:31 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: well, adding it initially helped, I can only assume a new version will optimize that further, I just don't know how much the gain is or if it's worth throwing it in umd for that | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson_ | ok, i'll try it later on | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i need to leave this machine relatively free for my GF. she will complain if i start building firefox on it ;) | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson_ | hmmm, fonts suck on lucid too :/ | 17:34 |
| vish | hehe , for a moment i thought ^ that was someone complaining on #ubuntu ! ;p | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson_ | actually | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson_ | that's my fontconfig settings that are messed up on my desktop | 17:35 |
| * micahg needs to learn how valgrind works so I can figure out why TB is a memory hog | 17:35 | |
| chrisccoulson_ | lol vish | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i'm allowed to complain ;) | 17:36 |
| vish | nope! ;p | 17:36 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - i could probably decipher a valgrind log for you, but i'm not sure how useful it would be for TB | 17:36 |
| chrisccoulson_ | if it's GC issues, then valgrind won't be much use | 17:36 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i'm not sure what tools exist to debug memory leaks on mozilla stuff | 17:37 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i should familiarise myself with them | 17:37 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i'm really digging the new tab animations in FF4 | 17:39 |
| chrisccoulson_ | they even appear to be smoother than chromium | 17:39 |
| * micahg should probably learn that stuff too | 17:46 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: we're not about to add a canonical root CA to NSS, right? | 17:51 |
| micahg | not asking as in timing, but about feasibility | 17:52 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - not that i'm aware of, how come? | 17:52 |
| micahg | bug 553495 | 17:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 553495 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "SSL cert for news.launchpad.net (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553495 | 17:52 |
| * micahg was going to move to nss and mark won't fix | 17:52 | |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, do you have any opinion on what to do with that bug? | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | there is a well documented process for having new root certs added to NSS, but it takes quite a long time | 17:55 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm sure it's not something we should do | 17:55 |
| * micahg doesn't think distros should add stuff to NSS INHO | 17:55 | |
| micahg | *IMHO | 17:55 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, i closed it as wontfix | 18:08 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: thanks | 18:14 |
| * micahg just moved it to nss :) | 18:15 | |
| micahg | bbiab | 18:15 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: how is the crash submission going? | 19:46 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - it's stalled atm. i got an account on the mozilla server and uploaded our first set of symbols, and then submitted a new key so i can push them automatically from chinstrap | 20:10 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - i think i just missed you there ;) | 20:10 |
| chrisccoulson | <chrisccoulson> asac - it's stalled atm. i got an account on the mozilla server and uploaded our first set of symbols, and then submitted a new key so i can push them automatically from chinstrap | 20:10 |
| chrisccoulson | before i realised i can't use ssh from chinstrap | 20:10 |
| chrisccoulson | so i contacted #is and created a RT as advised, and i'm still waiting | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | meanwhile, my old key that allows me access from my laptop is not working | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | and everytime i ping someone about it, they're always busy ;) | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, is this ok? (bug 616988) | 20:12 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 616988 in firefox (Ubuntu) "This is a test, please ignore me :) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616988 | 20:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i think it's scrubbed out all private data now | 20:12 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: yep! great | 20:14 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: you should probably rename the pluginred.dats accordingly | 20:14 |
| micahg | *pluginreg | 20:14 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - do they need renaming? the reporter of the original bug was concerned about the location of the profile folder being exposed | 20:15 |
| micahg | hmm, ok, well I guess one can't know the dir from just the profile name | 20:15 |
| micahg | although that might be private too | 20:15 |
| chrisccoulson | it should be ok. we can always change it if people moan about it | 20:16 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i'm going to tag lp:firefox/3.6 and upload once i've tested it, so we can fix the builds for 3.6.9 | 20:29 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, can you add the translations | 20:29 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'll just find the bugs | 20:29 |
| micahg | bug 559083 614190 | 20:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 559083 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Incomplete Vietnamese translation for items listed in desktop main menu (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559083 | 20:30 |
| micahg | bug 614190 | 20:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 614190 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Traditional Chinese update for firefox.desktop and thunderbird.desktop (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614190 | 20:30 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson ^^ | 20:30 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 20:30 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: :( ... busy on moz side or busy on our side if you ping them? | 20:35 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: cant you just copy the chinstrap key down to your local system and use it? | 20:35 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - on the moz side. i will ping fox2mike again in a minute, but i hate to be a pita ;) | 20:36 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - yeah, i tried that, it seems neither key works since i submitted the second key | 20:36 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: right. but why not pull the secret key that is now on chinstrap | 20:36 |
| asac | hmm | 20:36 |
| asac | double check | 20:36 |
| asac | if not ping poke be pita | 20:36 |
| asac | or wait till monday ;) | 20:36 |
| asac | its not that urgent, but i would like to see this flying after all the time it took to get this close ;) | 20:37 |
| asac | so ted isnt your contact anymore? | 20:37 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - yeah, ted is still my contact, but i talk to fox2mike about my server account | 20:48 |
| chrisccoulson | right, dinner time. bbiab | 20:57 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - have you tried getting the KDE patches working in lp:firefox? | 22:44 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: no, not yet | 22:45 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: debfx might be interested in doing that | 22:45 |
| debfx | i'll have a look at it tomorrow | 22:51 |
| micahg | cool, thanks debfx, keep in mind, 4.0 is still in flux, so unless you're comfortable fixing regular breakage, you might want to wait until beta 5 or 6 | 22:53 |
| * micahg has seen addon authors complaining | 22:54 | |
| debfx | micahg: do you build daily packages from that branch? | 22:56 |
| micahg | debfx: yes | 22:57 |
| micahg | debfx: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+packages | 22:57 |
| chrisccoulson | grrr, my stupid cats | 22:59 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - mozilla bug 569836 FYI | 23:01 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 569836 in Build Config "Build fails on Fedora Core 13" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=569836 | 23:01 |
| chrisccoulson | that's why 3.6.9 currently fails | 23:01 |
| debfx | ok, in that case i'll wait a bit longer :) | 23:01 |
| debfx | chrisccoulson: are they begging you for more food? :D | 23:06 |
| chrisccoulson | debfx, they keep running around and knocking things over ;) | 23:06 |
| chrisccoulson | they are seriously annoying me | 23:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i might just put them outside ;) | 23:06 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: that's what I thought, but the time in hg is jun :( | 23:13 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is it safe to fix now? | 23:19 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i'm just testing it now, as the commit has 1 less #include compared to our patch | 23:20 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, can you fix then? | 23:20 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, no problem | 23:20 |
| micahg | s/fix/take care of/ | 23:20 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: thanks | 23:20 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, idk if you saw, but FFe was granted | 23:20 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i saw that. that's good :) | 23:21 |
| chrisccoulson | although i don't know what we'd do if it wasn't granted ;) | 23:21 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'll have to figure out the dependency issue over the weekend with more debug flags | 23:21 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: bribe, beg, cry | 23:21 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, we'd still have to upload it really. not uploading isn't really an option for us ;) | 23:22 |
| chrisccoulson | we should just get a standing FFe | 23:22 |
| chrisccoulson | although, i thought the current maintenance model would already cover us for that | 23:23 |
| chrisccoulson | maybe i'll speak to pitti | 23:23 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: we do for minor versions, this is for a major version | 23:23 |
| micahg | IIRC | 23:23 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, but we can upgrade major versions in stable releases as well | 23:23 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll ask if we can have a standing FFe if we don't already have one | 23:24 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ok, I'll probably be delegated to the mozilla package set FFe approval anyways this cycle | 23:24 |
| micahg | universe stuff | 23:24 |
| chrisccoulson | cool | 23:25 |
| micahg | last time I was the backup approver | 23:25 |
| micahg | but I still have to ask if I can approve my own FFe request :) | 23:25 |
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