[09:21] <bdrung> are we already in FF or will it come later this day?
[09:28] <Laney> bdrung: not until the announcement is sent afaik
[10:04] <ttx> bdrung: quick !
[10:05] <bdrung> ttx: i wanted to process https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/maverick/moin/merge-1.9.3-1/+merge/32400 but dholbach had already looked at it
[10:07] <ttx> bdrung: I think we should push it
[10:07] <ttx> bdrung: spamaps won't be around in time to fix the minor issue that is still remaining before FF
[10:07] <ttx> bdrung: are you on it ?
[10:08] <bdrung> ttx: no, you can take it
[10:08] <ttx> bdrung: ok, I'm on it then
[10:09] <ttx> hmm, as soon as LP lets me get it :)
[10:11] <bdrung> ttx: can i ask you to look at another sponsor request?
[10:11] <ttx> bdrung: well, i'm stuck right now by LP, but I can queue it
[10:12] <bdrung> ttx: bug #378240
[10:12] <ubot4> bdrung: Bug 378240 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/378240 is private
[10:12] <bdrung> ubot4: you fail
[10:12] <ubot4> Factoid 'you fail' not found
[10:12] <bdrung> ubot4: you failed again :)
[10:12] <ubot4> bdrung: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[10:13] <ttx> bdrung: if I have time this morning (and LP unfreezes) I'll take it, no promise though
[10:14] <bdrung> ttx: thx. i don't want to touch this one because i am not a ubuntu-server member
[11:25] <Daviey> Has FF kicked in?
[11:34] <ara> Daviey, I don't think so, I haven't seen an email sent to ubuntu-announce
[11:34] <Daviey> ara: Yeah.. *boggles* :)
[11:35]  * Daviey tries to fire out 2 extra merges
[12:50] <sistpoty|work> are we frozen yet? anyone to send out a reminder to u-d-a?
[12:51] <ogra> sistpoty|work, shhh, dont ask, they might have forgotten about it :)
[12:52] <sistpoty|work> ogra: they==release team? (damn, looks like I'm guilty then as well :P)
[13:44] <sistpoty|work> cjwatson, iulian, Riddell, ScottK, slangasek: how's that for a start: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476917/ ?
[13:49] <Riddell> don't we have a release manager yet?
[13:56] <Riddell> skat: hello
[13:57] <sistpoty|work> Riddell: oh, do we?
[13:58] <Riddell> if we do, she's being very quiet :)
[13:59] <sistpoty|work> heh
[13:59]  * sistpoty|work must get up to date wrt. Ubuntu again :)
[14:17] <ScottK> sistpoty|work: I think it's good, but I think new needs a modifier like essential or important or something.
[14:19] <sistpoty|work> thanks ScottK, added: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476935/
[14:20] <ScottK> sistpoty|work: Works for me.
[14:20]  * sistpoty|work waits a little bit for comments from others before sending (or maybe skat would like to take over that task?)
[14:22] <lamont> btw, new tarballs for maverick.  built just over 27 hours ago
[15:33]  * robbiew prepares FF announcement
[15:34] <robbiew> tick tock...tick tock
[15:41] <sistpoty|work> thanks robbiew
[15:42]  * robbiew figured people needed some additional time with LP going down for maintenance and all
[15:43]  * ScottK needed extra time because he forgot to check if some packages needed sync.
[16:20] <bdrung> robbiew: isn't motu-release merged into ubuntu-release?
[16:21] <robbiew> bdrung: doh...cut-and-paste error
[16:21] <bdrung> muhaha
[16:23]  * robbiew quickly sends email correction
[16:24] <bdrung> robbiew: another question: i want to get vlc 1.1.3 into maverick (1.1.2 -> 1.1.3). it's mainly a bug fix upstream release. do a need a FFe?
[16:27] <robbiew> bdrung: assuming it doesn't introduce new features and/or ABI/API changes, and only bug fixes, then I don't think so
[16:29] <bdrung> robbiew: no ABI changes
[16:31] <ScottK> It's OK then.
[16:57] <ScottK> robbiew: I don't think Kate Stewart <kate.stewart@ubuntu.com> is going to work.
[16:58] <robbiew> ScottK: bah...habit
[16:58] <robbiew> sometimes there are forwards setup...but you might be right
[16:58] <ScottK> She shouldn't have an ubuntu.com address unless she's an Ubuntu member.
[17:02] <robbiew> ScottK: ack
[17:26] <lamont> Keybuk: so about 2.18....  thoughts for maverick?  or are we waiting for N?
[17:27] <lamont> meh.  dinner.  afk
[18:31] <cody-somerville> Has 10.04.1 been released yet?
[18:31] <ScottK> cody-somerville: No.
[18:32] <cody-somerville> Can someone please ping me when it is? I need to create a snapshot for OEM Services.
[18:34] <charlie-tca> cody-somerville: delayed until the 17th now
[18:34] <cody-somerville> ah, ok
[19:06] <nigelb> some day robbiew will write a "proper" freeze email :p
[19:13] <ScottK> nigelb: Some day, we'll get a proper freeze email because he's been able to delegate the writing.
[19:16] <nigelb> ScottK: that too.  The last time, we got an email about Karmic being in DIF instead of maverick.
[19:16] <nigelb> I wonder if the new RM has started easing in :)
[19:16] <nigelb> (I know robbie is busy with loads of stuff probably)
[19:20] <ScottK> She was here earlier, but didn't speak.
[19:23] <robbiew> she is at LinuxCon this week...fulfilling a speaking commitment she made before joining
[19:24] <robbiew> nigelb:....and yes, someday you will get a proper freeze email...and it probably won't be from me :P
[19:27] <nigelb> robbiew: Heh.  :)
[19:28] <robbiew> I should point out...that I've done a fairly good job with the release meeting agenda...and that is a PITA to put together ;)
[19:30] <nigelb> yes, you have.  Its only with the copy & paste that you end up sending corrections :D
[19:30] <robbiew> yep....being lazy gets me every time!
[19:30] <nigelb> heh :)
[23:20] <wgrant> cjwatson: So, bug #241129 should be fixed now.
[23:20] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 241129 in soyuz "'queue override' command scales at O(n^2) with the number of packages on the commandline (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241129
[23:25] <slangasek> sweet \o/
[23:49] <slangasek> robbiew, cjwatson: I've reviewed the upstart SRU; bug #554172 is a pretty major bug and I think now that a fix is available, we should get it in for .1 (even at the risk of delaying .1 further) - do you agree?
[23:49] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 554172 in upstart (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 5 other projects) "system services not starting at boot (affects: 191) (dups: 15) (heat: 854)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554172
[23:50] <robbiew> slangasek: hmmm
[23:50] <robbiew> I'm not a BIG fan of delaying .1...yet again
[23:51] <slangasek> N.B.: "at the risk of", but I think this should be a pretty quick SRU verification in practice
[23:51] <slangasek> the change is self-contained and only modifies the error handling path
[23:51] <robbiew> right
[23:51] <robbiew> I'm a strong +1 on getting it into .1
[23:52] <robbiew> but we've postponed .1 twice already...and there's always "one more bug"...so if we could squeeze it in for next Tuesday, then sure
[23:56] <slangasek> I can accept it now, and it'll be in the .1 ISO candidates which include -proposed in their build
[23:56] <slangasek> then only if we /don't/ publish the upstart SRU do we have a risk of delay
[23:57] <robbiew> ok
[23:58] <slangasek> accepting, then