[08:00] <dholbach> good morning
[08:01] <dholbach> HAPPY HUG DAY!
[08:01] <dholbach> salut jibel
[08:02] <dholbach> comment ça va?
[08:02] <jibel> guten tag dholbach
[08:02] <dholbach> :)
[08:02] <jibel> ca va et toi ?
[08:02] <dholbach> un peu fatiguée mais ca va :)
[08:03] <dholbach> fatigué
[08:03] <vish> dholbach: how many languages do you know? :)
[08:03] <dholbach> jibel: ca va bien, c'est 'UG DAY aujourd'hui :)
[08:04] <dholbach> vish: not enough :)
[08:04] <yofel> morgen ^^
[08:04] <dholbach> vish: I'm sure you speak more than I do :)
[08:04] <jibel> without the 'e' is better for a man :)
[08:04] <dholbach> Indians all speak more languages than anybody else
[08:04]  * vish parle un peu de francais ;)
[08:04] <dholbach> jibel: yeah, it took me a bit to realise :)
[08:06] <yofel> dholbach: your merge on bug 586790 still being looked at?
[08:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 586790 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Typo in --help of apt-add-repository (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586790
[08:07] <dholbach> yofel: I'll pester mvo
[08:07] <dholbach> once he's up
[08:07] <yofel> ok
[08:07] <dholbach> what a slacker!
[08:07] <yofel> more like, shouldn't that be merged into lp:software-properties not lp:ubuntu/software-properties ?
[08:08] <dholbach> yofel: software-properties is probably a special case
[08:09] <dholbach> I was demo'ing the general approach of getting something into Ubuntu
[08:09] <dholbach> getting the fix upstream is a different story
[08:09] <dholbach> but yeah, I agree
[08:09] <yofel> ah ok
[08:13]  * dholbach starts doing a bit of sponsoring, will join you for some patch review in a bit
[08:56] <dholbach> "LP will go down for maintenace in 30 seconds."
[08:56] <dholbach> :-(
[09:02] <vish> argh! great day for lp maintainance! we have feature freeze as well today :(
[09:02] <dholbach> yep, good timing
[09:02] <dholbach> hey seb128
[09:02] <seb128> hey dholbach
[09:03] <dholbach> seb128: thanks for getting the gdm fix in
[09:03] <dholbach> awesome
[09:03] <seb128> dholbach, yw
[09:03] <dholbach> seb128: merci beaucoup mon vieux ami :-P
[09:04] <seb128> de rien mon jeune ami !
[09:05] <dholbach> haha
[09:05] <dholbach> I'm older than you!
[09:06] <seb128> you call me old so ... ;-)
[11:00] <dholbach> OK! The HUG DAY is back! :)
[11:00] <dholbach> yoohoo!
[12:30] <dholbach> how's the reviews coming on?
[12:55] <dholbach> Packaging Training Session: Patch Review and Operation Cleansweep in #ubuntu-classroom in 5 minutes
[13:24] <pedro_> see dholbach
[13:25] <dholbach> haha pedro_
[13:25] <dholbach> pedro_: we just had a session in #ubuntu-classroom about the patch reviewers process
[13:26] <dholbach> and will now work on a few examples together
[13:26] <dholbach> I'm sure we'll have a bunch of questions for you in a bit :)
[13:26] <pedro_> dholbach, cool! is the log available somewhere?
[13:26] <pedro_> dholbach, so we can link it on the hug day page ;-)
[13:27] <dholbach> pedro_: not yet, but I'll give you the link once the session is done and the log available
[13:27] <pedro_> dholbach, ok, thanks!
[13:28] <pedro_> reboot, brb
[13:38] <norax> dholbach : are you choosing a bug? or are we finished?. "thanks for the questions" seems for me like we are finished, and I would like to see an example.
[13:40] <dholbach> oh ok
[13:40] <dholbach> I just did https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sabayon/+bug/595608
[13:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 595608 in sabayon (Ubuntu) "Sabayon-apply fails on mozilla_bookmarks (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[13:40] <dholbach> with a bit of investigation I found that it was fixed already
[13:40] <dholbach> one I did before was https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/python-mysqldb/+bug/588859
[13:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 588859 in python-mysqldb (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "python-mysqldb silently drops exceptions on deadlocks (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Unknown,Unknown]
[13:41] <dholbach> (the person had forwarded the patches to debian and upstream already
[13:41] <dholbach> )
[13:41] <dholbach> so I added the upstream/debian bugs to the bug's tasks and added the tags
[13:41] <dholbach> also if you check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Examples there's a couple more examples
[13:42] <dholbach> I thought we'd now all go and try to work on bugs/patches individually and bring up questions as soon as we have them
[14:00] <dholbach> which patches/bugs are you currently looking at? anyone ran into problems already?
[14:02] <devildante> I'd like to add that if you did an ubuntu-sponsors merge request, there is no need to subscribe them to the bug
[14:02] <dholbach> devildante: hm?
[14:02] <devildante> (talking by experience :p)
[14:02] <dholbach> ah yes
[14:04] <yofel> hm, we don't have an example for a merge request in the Examples. I did bug 601127 yesterday, but there I had to patch the patch
[14:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 601127 in update-manager (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "don't hide treeview and notebook when some package is available but not installable (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601127
[14:04] <yofel> someone got a cleaner one?
[14:05] <dholbach> pedro_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training/Logs/2010-08-12
[14:05] <dholbach> yofel: if you find one, can you add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Examples ?
[14:05] <pedro_> dholbach, thanks! linking it right now
[14:06] <yofel> sure
[14:06] <dholbach> yeeeeeeehaw
[14:06] <dholbach> awesome
[14:06] <dholbach> I got a few of them off the list already
[14:07] <dholbach> looking forward to see http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/patches/ later on
[14:09] <kamusin> glad to see you here devildante :)
[14:12] <devildante> kamusin: hi :)
[14:13] <kamusin> hey devildante how are things today with the hugday?
[14:13] <devildante> kamusin: not very well, still busy with my addons branch
[14:16] <dholbach> how are you guys getting on?
[14:16] <devildante> kamusin: but I think my work of yesterday is enough to compensate :p
[14:17] <kamusin> heh
[14:33] <dholbach> how are we doing in terms of reviewing bugs/patches? :)
[14:35] <dholbach> I should've made a note where we started today :)
[14:36] <dholbach> pedro_: could it be that bugs.g.o is very slow?
[14:39] <dholbach> pedro_: what is the bugzilla component for mobile-broadband-provider-info?
[14:40] <dholbach> modem-manager found it
[14:40] <dholbach> thanks
[14:40] <dholbach> :)
[14:41] <pedro_> dholbach, bugzilla is slow for you? it's working fine here
[14:41] <dholbach> it's better now
[14:42] <dholbach> pedro_: how can I add https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=626731 to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mobile-broadband-provider-info/+bug/447380 ?
[14:42] <ubot4> Gnome bug 626731 in ModemManager "Support for Croatian Academic and Research NETwork" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[14:42] <pedro_> looking
[14:45] <pedro_> i see, since the project is already registered in launchpad as upstream lp doesn't allows you to add the upstream link
[14:45]  * pedro_ kicks lp
[14:46] <dholbach> oh ok
[14:46] <pedro_> let me try something , one sec
[14:49] <pedro_> dholbach, looks like the only solution is to reject that upstream tasks for mobile-broadband-provider-info, open one for NM and put the link there...
[14:49] <pedro_> lp fault
[14:53] <dholbach> yeah, whatever :)
[14:54] <pedro_> would be great to have a link here to create those: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/447380/+watch/79578
[14:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 447380 in mobile-broadband-provider-info (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Support for Croatian Academic and Research NETwork (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[14:54] <pedro_> "There are currently no links to this bug watch" I'd love to have a "create one" button there...
[14:54] <dholbach> yeah
[15:00] <ara> dholbach, where did you upload the logs of the session you just gave?
[15:01] <dholbach> ara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training/Logs/2010-08-12
[15:01] <pedro_> ara,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training/Logs/2010-08-12
[15:01] <dholbach> HA! QUICKER! :)
[15:01] <pedro_> high five!
[15:01]  * dholbach hugs pedro_
[15:01]  * pedro_ hugs dholbach back
[15:02] <dholbach> pedro_: ¡COGE EL AVE!
[15:02] <pedro_> lol!
[15:02] <dholbach> it doesn't get old :)
[15:02] <ara> :D
[15:04] <dholbach> 1501!
[15:22] <dholbach> 1499!
[15:46] <dholbach> 1494!
[15:59] <dholbach> 1492!
[15:59] <dholbach> awesome
[15:59]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:18] <devildante> guys, bug 600989 is for a bug that doesn't have an upstream bug tracker. should I seek Ubuntu sponsorship?
[16:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 600989 in multimon (Ubuntu) "Wrong sox syntax in gen.c (output) (affects: 1) (heat: 90)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600989
[16:21] <devildante> for a package*
[16:36] <simar__mohaar> devildante: what to do for todays hug day. I hope to involve too ..
[16:36] <yofel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100812
[16:36] <devildante> follow this for each bug: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide#Workflow
[16:38] <simar__mohaar> yofel: devildante thanks, I see myself as a potential contributer here. :))
[17:20] <devildante> how can we know progress of operation cleansweep?
[17:24] <elopio> devildante: there's a plot here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100812
[17:25] <devildante> thank you, elopio :)
[18:58] <norax> Hi. I have a patch that is included in a release in debian unstable but not in testing (and not in maverick). I have added the tag patch-accepted-debian, but do I have to do anything more? I mean, the bug is still New, do I have to change to fix commited or something like that?
[19:07] <nigelb> norax: which app?
[19:10] <norax> nigelb: its pmccabe. In unstable is in 2.6 but we have 2.5 in maverick.
[19:11] <nigelb> norax: you can request an ffe.
[19:11] <norax> nigelb: Whats an ffe?
[19:11] <nigelb> !ffe
[19:11] <ubot4> Feature Freeze Exception. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the freeze exception process.
[19:11] <nigelb> sorry about the jargon
[19:12] <norax> No problem. Thanks.
[19:12] <nigelb> oh, ugh, that might require a merge and not a sync though
[19:13] <nigelb> ok, just a sync would do!
[19:20] <norax> It is a sync. But  I do not know if it worths. It is not a critical package and if it is not in testing I assume that it is not testing enough
[19:31] <nigelb> norax: its not in testing because I think debian is frozen now.
[19:32] <norax> nigelb: Thanks. I think I am going to request an FFE. Let's see what happens
[19:33] <nigelb> norax: And I just confirmed from maco that debian is indeed in freeze :)
[19:34] <norax> nigelb: then should I ask an FFE also for debian?
[19:35] <nigelb> Don't think so.
[19:35] <nigelb> It was their final freeze I think.
[20:17] <norax> I have request an FFE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pmccabe/+bug/616977 but I do not know, maybe it is too much work (not just mine, but the ubuntu release team, and later the sponsor team) for something that will be automatically repaired in 11.04.
[20:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 616977 in pmccabe (Ubuntu) "ask for an FFE syncing from debian unstable (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[20:45] <rsajdok> Do I understand. Forward to debian-upstream is to run program: submittodebian ?
[21:01] <norax> submittodebian sends an email from your account that creates a bug in their track system, so I think that you are right, debian-upstream is to run this program.
[21:51] <rsajdok> norax: It would be good if someone confirm this
[22:14] <norax> nigelb: It seems that as the update is bug fix only, no FFe is required.
[23:25] <yofel> rsajdok: yes submittodebian would be the easiest way, esp. if you already packaged the patch to test it
[23:28] <yofel> about bug 613407 - it's adding a check to not make dkms fail if a config file doesn't exist, but the config file is actually installed by the dkms package so should never be missing unless deleted, does that even make sense to fix?
[23:28] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 613407 in dkms (Ubuntu) "/etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms exited with return code 2 (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 494)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613407