[00:23] STILL having the problem with proxy. changed/corrected order of NICs in firewall [00:30] how do I restart samba? [00:32] sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart [00:32] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/index.html [00:33] thanks [00:33] it seems like 10.04 is full of surprises [00:34] I cant access my files on the samba share in Windows, but I can see them [00:34] sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found [00:36] Im not at my server, but seems I recall that changing. [00:36] that's why i pulled it off the Wiki, guess it needs some work :-) [00:37] try sudo restart samba [00:37] thanks [00:37] lets see [00:38] then do a sudo testparm [00:38] restart: Unknown job: samba [00:38] you sure it's installed ? [00:38] Oh, sri, my bad. [00:38] sudo restart smbd [00:38] im sure its installed :) [00:39] smbd start/running, process 2860 [00:39] is that the correct return? [00:39] now do sudo testparm [00:40] I just upgrade my server from 8.04, lots changed ;-) [00:41] KE1HA: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/aifXSwzN [00:41] still, access denied [00:42] let me get my share off conf, will patebin it, you need to change the path and username though. [00:45] Iceman_B, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/476668/ [00:49] whoa [00:49] that's a whole slew of new options [00:49] lemem try that [00:51] testparm does not display invalid OR default settings, right ? [00:51] If it fails it will tell you that. [00:52] okay [00:52] f testparm runs correctly, it will list the loaded services. If not, it will give an error message. Make sure it runs correctly and that the services look reasonable before proceeding [00:53] Hi all, what version of Eucalyptus comes in bundled with Ubuntu Server Edition? [00:54] KE1HA: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/476673/ [00:54] no errors were thrown [00:54] but can you explain that discrepancy [00:54] ? [00:56] which line do you think is not right ? [00:58] hm>? is that a question or a quiz? [00:58] because I dont think the lines are wrong :) [00:58] There ya go, ok, does it work ? [00:58] Im just wondering why some of the lines vanish in the testparm [00:58] lemme see if it works [00:59] nope, still access denied [00:59] I dont know, Im not an expert on testparm, but know if I get errors using it, I need to fix them. [00:59] have you added a user to samba ? [01:00] as in, dod you do somethign like this at one point: smbpasswd -a [user_name] [01:00] opps as in, did you do somethign .. .. [01:03] yeah [01:03] Man, do i have a big chat-delay or are you checking somethign ? [01:03] ah sorry [01:03] So you added a smbpasswd ? [01:03] i was checking the samba.org page [01:03] yes [01:04] and it happens to match my linux pass [01:04] and did you restart samba after you mand the Share changes ? [01:04] yeah [01:04] sudo restart smbd right? [01:04] I can try again though [01:04] yes [01:05] and just to be sure, you've done all this as sudo, not root yes ? [01:05] all this sudo [01:06] i dont think I can do this as a root [01:06] something about ubuntu missing a root user [01:06] ? [01:07] no, you should not do anythign as root in Ubuntu. [01:07] How are are you trying to access the shared folder ? [01:07] in windows, I do [01:08] network places > and then the share is listed there [01:08] that's good, at least its seeing it. Does WinDoze Ask you for a U/N and P/W ? [01:08] nope, but thats because the Windoze pass is the same [01:08] and the user [01:09] Im assuming here that in the background, samba asks for credentials, and windows supplies whatever im logged in with [01:09] and they match [01:09] im beginnin to suspect another thing here [01:10] the files im trying to access, were created on another ubuntu system [01:10] No, it dont work that wau. [01:10] way* [01:10] your linux box, the first time you acess the sahe should ask you for the info. [01:11] There's another way to do this with the conf file, but I dont use it too often. [01:11] I think I found the problem [01:11] its the files themselves [01:11] they are being pwned by root [01:11] instead of my user [01:11] they all reside on a different hdd, which is mounted on a dir in my ~/ [01:12] so that would explain it [01:12] I wonder if I can chown the entire drive recurseivly [01:12] Back to the .conf file then ## comment out the previous Share setings then try this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/476677/ [01:12] without breaking the automount [01:12] and sudo srestart samba again [01:13] The access it though IE with \\IP-Address\Share_Folder [01:14] before I do that, I want to try the ownership thing first [01:14] SRI, \\IP_Address\username [01:14] because if I create a file from windows, ON the share, I can access it fine [01:14] Ownership of the share ? [01:14] no [01:14] of all the files in the share [01:14] I made a kinda complicated setup I guess [01:14] that's a diffrent problem, if you can create a File on the Share, then Samba is working. [01:15] yeh [01:15] Then cd to the Share and chown -R ./* [01:15] chown -R username ./* [01:16] that's will change the owner, if you want group too: chown -R username:username ./* [01:16] thanks [01:17] its running now [01:17] but first, in the dir share directory, do a la -al and look at the owner and group [01:17] that said root root [01:17] uid 0 [01:17] cool, you didn't say you could create files, but not access the old ones. [01:17] yeah, I didnt know what info to provide [01:17] or what is critical [01:18] that's why, root owned them, not you the user. [01:18] Samba is just the go-between .. like the tunnel. [01:18] Anyway, Im glad it's workign. [01:19] Only took me an hour to help you get it fixed :-) [01:19] I really need to work-over this 10.04, it's allot difffrent than 8.04 was [01:19] ack [01:19] almost there [01:19] all the owner:group are now correct [01:20] but when I want to open a file, say a pdf [01:20] do I need my own permission set to 6 or 7 ? [01:20] now from windows, dor a refresh on the directory [01:20] well, no dee to 777 I'd do 750 if it's only you accessing them anyway. [01:21] no need for 777 .. .. .. [01:21] You could tightening them up real tight, but on you own boxes, probably not needed but it's up to you. [01:23] so whats the syntax [01:23] man pages are usually cryptic [01:23] chown u+ 0700 ? [01:23] syntax for what ? [01:24] chmod [000] [filename] [01:24] Once you own the files your just changing the permissions. [01:25] if yo want to do a whole directory of files, or anything below a certain directory level, just do [01:25] chmod -R ./* but besure your in the directory where you want to change the file permissions and the -R is recursive. [01:25] thats fine [01:26] you need the permission in there of course, like: chmod -R 750 ./* would change every file * directory below where your at. [01:30] * Iceman_B sighs, still nothing [01:31] so all the files on the share are owned by my own user:group [01:31] permissions on all the files and dirs are set to rwx------ [01:31] and still access denied on all those files [01:33] Iceman_B, but you can go from windows to the share directory and create files or from the Ubuntu machine and put new files there and Windows can acess it ? [01:34] yup [01:34] I can see the share in windows, create file in windows, open THOSE files in windows [01:34] Only thing I can think to try is use sudo to change the user:group and then file permission, and see where that takes you. [01:34] and write to them [01:35] as in: sudo chown -R username:username ./* then do sudo chmod -R 700 ./* [01:38] I just rebooted my server [01:38] all the colors from bash are gone now too :? [01:38] but first this samba issue [01:38] i'll try your suggestion, sec [01:39] chown is running now [01:41] must be allot of files :-) Music Archive ? [01:42] and anime =) [01:42] :-) [01:42] samba should have no problems when im in windows and I access file, that in linux is a symlink, which points to the actual file [01:42] right? [01:43] assuming im the owner of all, and I have rwx permissions on it [01:43] Links are short cuts [01:43] what's the permissions on the files? are they in a diffrent place ? [01:45] well, physically they are on a different drive, but that is mounted in ~/rin [01:45] and I just changed all the permission on those files to 0700 [01:46] and you ls all of them ? [01:46] ls ? [01:46] how do you mean [01:46] How did you create the links ? [01:47] good question, lemme think [01:49] I have a dir ~/share, I cd to that, and then I do ln -s ~/rin/..../file.pdf file.pdf [01:50] and still the same error, access denied [01:50] and you created those with the other system ? [01:51] On the Ubuntu box, move on of the real files to the shared directory and see if windows and open it [01:52] Move a file, not the link [01:52] all those fiels were created on another system, yeah [01:52] I can access them from within ubuntu fine though [01:52] but I'll try [01:53] move one of the actual files, using the Ubuntu server, and see if you can read it from windows. [01:53] but dont creat a Ln -s for that file. [01:53] try to acess the actual moved file. [01:56] that seems to work [01:56] I can access the files fine [01:56] so I guess the problem is in a symlink ? [01:57] Kill all those links, move the files, move them back ad re-do your links. [01:57] or, directly acess the file,s which is best. [01:57] I cant move the files [01:57] not enough space on my disk [01:57] You just did. [01:57] yeah, one [01:57] I cant move em all [01:58] well, try deleting a link and re-creating it, but I think it's the source (re file) giving you the trouble. [01:58] oop (real file ) [01:58] okay [01:58] lemem try that [02:01] yeah seems to work now [02:01] Well done :-) [02:02] thanks a million [02:02] links are a pain in the back side, especially hard links. [02:02] but...what did really change? [02:02] I never use hard links [02:02] No problem, glad ya got it sorted. [02:05] so can you explain whats different now? [02:05] because I had a samba share with symlinks in it which were giving me a hard time, now i have the same share with the same symlinks [02:05] but it works [02:06] Not exactly sure, but I think it was a uid issue from the root ownership, but Im not 100%. [02:06] yeah you would think that... [02:06] ut im not so sure [02:07] I mean, what really defines the uniqueness of a UID ? [02:07] the number? [02:07] I think the uid issue was on the actual file, not the link, but I'd have to go dig on that one. [02:08] That's why Linux / Unix is as secure as it is. Sure there's holes, but nothing like on WinDoze [02:08] If that was a WinDoze box, you wouldnt' ahve been here askign quesitons. [02:08] perhaps [02:09] file / directory permission in WinDoze is horrible. [02:09] but lets not turn this into a Windoez hating thing :) [02:09] I dont "hate Windows .. I still have one WinDoze box, just in case, but dont use it much. [02:10] But I certainly begrudge "paying for huge security risks" and viruses. [02:11] In fact, your problem there wasn't a WinDoze issue, was a Linux security feature :-0 [02:13] yeah, that seemed to be the case [02:14] anyways, Im headed back to the standard UB channel catch ya later, glad its all sorted. [02:14] cool, thanks! [02:34] KE1HA: seems I was a bit premature, only the file I moved back and forth seemed to work with a symlink, I was still unable to access dirs, which were symlinked into the SMB share [02:34] from windows of course, in Linux I can access fine [02:34] I'll throw this on the forum during daytime, off to bed now :) [02:34] thanks again though [02:38] Iceman_B, over smb? [02:39] ya, samba attempts to not allow that, unless you enable wide symlinks [02:39] and in order to enable that, you have to disable unix extentions or something, that ubuntu uses by default [03:13] ok so my home server will let me ssh to it and also will let me read files via sftp. but not write permissions. how can i change permissions? i have sudo [03:16] hello? [03:16] anyone here? [03:16] * ball nods [03:16] cool [03:17] Last night, as an experiment, I installed Ubuntu Server onto a software RAID array. I was pleasantly surprised when it booted and appeared to run quite well. [03:19] i have a really basic question. I'm trying to setup my laptop as a gateway and dhcp server to share my vodafone 3G internet connection. I have followed the instructions on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing and also installed firestarter and used these instructions http://www.howtoforge.com/dhcp_server_linux_debian_sarge (using dhcpd3). I now have conflicting dhcp settings and cannot get it to work. How can I remove [03:19] any dhcp configs and start again? thanks. [03:23] reggi: So you want it to be a dhcp server on its Ethernet port and dhcp client (ppp client?) on its mobile broadband interface? [03:24] yes that is correct ball. [03:24] ...and then something to route between those two ports. [03:24] (to perform NAS, I suppose) [03:25] yep. i've tried 3 different methods to achieve this [03:25] but there is a conflict with 2 different dhcp settings [03:25] * ball has no idea how this stuff works on Linux [03:26] when I run tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog i get this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/476702/ [03:26] dhcpd should only listen on the eth* port, which should then not be configured with a dhcpclient [03:27] oh hang on a sec [03:27] zash: Is that achieved by editing a flat text file or two? [03:27] i'm getting the terminology confused (i'm used to the windows method of ICS) basically here is the diagram. [03:28] internet - - DHCP + gateway [03:28] ball: /etc/network/interfaces [03:29] there are only two lines in that interfaces file, auto lo and iface lo inet loopback [03:30] reggi: this was a laptop you say [03:30] OH! I just thought of another question that occurred to me. Do the individual drives of a (software) RAID array have some sort of identifier on them, so that they can move around between busses and/or ports and still work? [03:30] yep its a laptop zash. [03:30] reggi: do you have network-manager installed [03:30] cause it allows you to do this with a couple of click iirc [03:31] zash, what is a networkmanager? i may already have it and not know it. [03:31] I have NetworkManager Applet 0.8 [03:31] reggi: the service that is installed by default in normal ubuntu desktops [03:32] reggi: yes, that's a inerface to nm [03:32] ahah [03:32] reggi: IPv4 settings → method = shared to other computers [03:32] I think that enables a DHCP server [03:32] and stuff [03:32] and magic! [03:33] zash, it's not that easy for me, i'm trying to share the mobile broadband which does not have a simple box to tick to 'shared to other computers'. [03:34] I can see the 'shared to other computers' box for the eth0 though. [03:34] reggi: you set that on the eth0 [03:34] reggi: and leave the 3g as it is [03:34] oh...hmm really? ok i'll try that. [03:35] reggi: I'm not completly sure, but I thinkt it should work [03:35] I've shared 3g to wifi somehow [03:36] hmm ok zash, i've given the eth0 a static ip of 192 [03:36] 168.0.1... [03:37] i can't believe it's so hard to ICS in ubuntu [03:38] in xp and vista you can do it in 3 clicks [03:38] :/ [03:48] reggi: i can't believe you just compared ubuntu to windows [03:49] lol [03:49] either way this is the wrong spot to ask such questions cause ppl here usually don't even use GUIs [03:50] in ubuntu is 3-4 commands [03:50] 1 dhcp server - not mandatory [03:50] 1 masquarading firewall rule [03:50] i'm just frustrated i suppose, steep learning curve, head hurts. I'm forcing myself to learn linux - i've basically gone cold turkey and installed linux on all my machines. [03:52] reggi: I hope you are aware of that this is #ubuntu-server [03:52] clusty: i've been given 3 different ways to ICS, 1. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing, 2. http://www.howtoforge.com/dhcp_server_linux_debian_sarge 3. firestarter. I've asked these questions in the #ubuntu channel and they asked me to post here because it is related to dhcp "server". [03:53] hmm. [03:53] reggi: you don't have to have a dhcp server [03:53] then you punch in all ips/gateways by hand [03:53] oh really? [03:54] dhcp is a service that gives ips to everybody [03:54] and helps them configure their routes i guess also [03:54] yeah that is what I want to do. I really want to get away from all this gui stuff and do things in terminal [04:26] reggi, note that "ICS"/"Internet Connection Sharing" is a windows-specific term, everybody else refers to it as NAT, NAT overloading, or the iptables-specific "IP Masquerading" [04:26] what you're really doing is configuring your server to be a router [04:27] the reason it's a little bit more complicated is because there's a whole lot more things it can do [04:27] ah i see. well that is reassuring qman__ [04:28] a basic setup like you probably want is still fairly straightforward, and with the right guide, shouldn't take more than an afternoon to set up, even your first time [04:29] qman, I know that the easy way would be to buy one of those routers with 3G sim card backup but I'm learning a hell of a lot by going down the linux path. [04:30] it's worth the effort [04:30] qman__: what I would like ultimately is to learn how to setup a server that would do everything a windows server would do, ie, domain name controller / ldap, roaming profile, etc [04:30] the tools you learn are the same tools used for pretty much all linux-based routing and networking [04:31] well, a full fledged windows-compatible domain controller is a ways off yet, but expect that with samba 4 [04:31] up until a few days ago I was trying to learn by doing google searches and reading up but there is something different when chatting with someone 'live' on irc. [04:31] ahuh [04:31] however, LDAP for a centralized linux authentication system is perfectly doable [04:32] and samba 3 can manage NT-style domains [04:32] one of my business clients is hell bent on getting a windows server to serve about 15 users [04:32] at the moment they have peer to peer network. [04:32] i'm trying to talk them into saving money and going for a linux box. [04:32] he does know that server 2008 starts at a thousand dollars, right? [04:34] but before I can convince them I want to be confident that I can install and support it. luckily I have a couple of old machines lying around that I can install ubuntu server 64bit and play around. I did mention to my client that it would cost a couple of grand for the ms server license and user cals [04:34] well, if you don't need full-on windows domain functionality, just a file server/basic network services, it's not that difficult to do [04:34] yeah I'm halfway there [04:34] the other day I setup my very first freenas box [04:35] its so ... so reliable and easy. [04:35] yeah, none of that rebooting every time it updates [04:36] uses a lot less resources too, you don't need a $5000 server to host some files [04:37] i bet. i've been studying this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/vboxheadless-running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-3.1-on-a-headless-ubuntu-9.10-server and I'll test it out either tonight or tomorrow. [05:19] In my init script - I have a little thing in there that makes sure nobody accidentally stops something for every user - but that catches when the system shuts down. Is there any way to see if the system is shutting down from inside of the script? [06:18] hi there, i need to buy a external HDD of 2TB and munt in my server. Somebody know if ubuntu lucid can mount ok a usb HDD (external) od 2TB? [06:18] Roxyhart0, almost certainly. [06:19] thanks :) hopefully as im going to buy 4 of them [06:48] Roxyhart0: yes it's fine [06:48] Roxyhart0: with ext4 i think you can go up to an exabyte [06:49] great ! thanks :) [07:54] ext3 can handle up to 8TB with a 4k block size === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann-away === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [08:54] hi all, when i powered up my development server this morning (ubuntu 10.04), i was greeted with a bunch of messages from /usr/lib/update-notifier....can anyone suggest how i can investigate what has happened? [08:55] kinygos: what messages? [08:55] kinygos: dmesg or /var/log/messages ? [08:56] there were 3 pairs, /update-motd-cpu-checker: not found, /update-motd-updates-available: not found, and /update-motd-reboot-required: not found [08:56] (those paths are from /usr/lib/update-notifier...sorry) [09:01] morning [09:01] ok...dmesg and /var/log/messages show nothing serious, so i don't understand why update-motd would've suddenly broken...has anyone seen anything like this? [10:42] Patrickdk: can you repeat again what you said about wide symlinks? approx 7 hours ago, please? [10:44] 03:38 < Patrickdk> Iceman_B, over smb? [10:44] 03:39 < Patrickdk> ya, samba attempts to not allow that, unless you enable wide symlinks [10:44] 03:39 < Patrickdk> and in order to enable that, you have to disable unix extentions or something, that ubuntu uses by default [10:45] yes that, thanks [10:45] anyone have a clue is accessing hard links DOES work in Samba? [10:45] I mean, on a default ubuntu system [10:49] I believe samba supports hard links === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [10:51] It should be easy to check [10:54] twb: I get : Invalid cross-device link [10:54] Hum [10:55] Check with #samba, I guess. I don't know any more. [10:58] okay [10:58] Ehm [10:58] hardlinks need to be in the same filesystem [10:58] Jeeves_: I didnt know that, still kinda new here [10:59] the files im trying to link to were created on another ubuntu system, and are physically on another drive, which is mounted in ~/mountdir/ [11:00] i installed ubuntu 10.04 on a sata hotplug pc in ahci mode. i have no expirence with sata hotplug and try to trigger some scripts when a harddisc is added/removed. Can someone give me a hint please? I have found no wiki or howto covering this topic. Thanks [11:00] Iceman_B: Than you should create symlinks [11:00] ln -s [11:00] already spent 3 hours trying that last night, that doesnt work by default [11:00] Those can be cross-filesystem [11:00] hence my first question [11:01] I mean, it doesnt with by default in samba, running on Ubuntu [11:01] Iceman_B: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352016 [11:03] thanks, I'll look into that [11:06] does anyone has Darwin Calendar server working on lucid? :) [11:16] speaking of links, how do I remove all symlinks from a dir and leave all other files intact? [11:20] Iceman_B: find . -type l --delete (or something like that) [11:20] Iceman_B: 'man find' is your best option :) [11:34] how can i realise sata hotplug with hardware supporting it and mode set to ahci please? via scsiadd? hotplug-utils? which way to go? [11:41] I feel stupid for having to ask this, but where is the domain name for a system stored? [11:42] jetole: in /etc/hosts [11:43] There is also a 'domainname' command to read/set a domainname [11:49] alvin: yeah I tried adding it to /etc/hosts because I thought thats where it should be. There was the line "127.0.0.1 firewall" which I changed to "127.0.0.1 firewall firewall.office" and then ran hostname --fqdn and it still just said firewall [11:50] got it [11:50] had to do hostname.domainname then hostname in /etc/hosts [11:50] thanks for the help alvin [11:50] Also, does anyone know how to install the sun jre on server 10.04 [11:51] jetole: Yes, but you can leave the 127.0.0.1 and add another line with those values (hostname.domainname) and the real IP of the server. [11:51] jetole: I haven't done it, but I hear it's in the partner repositories [11:52] alvin: yeah I compared it to another server which was displaying the domain name in host --fqdn and it was "127.0.0.1 hostname.domain hostname" once I switched them to that order in /etc/hosts then hostname --fqdn showed the domain name [11:52] * jetole looks at /etc/apt/sources.conf [11:52] * jetole looks at /etc/apt/sources.list [11:53] yep. I enabled the partners repo, did an apt-get update and now it's installing sun-java6-jre where before it told me that it's only referenced by other packages [11:53] thanks again alvin [11:53] np [12:31] New bug: #616719 in libnss-ldap (main) "slow group indexing when using huge ldap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616719 [12:37] Daviey: what the status on Eucalyptus ? [12:38] ttx: Well the topology issue is looking good... [12:38] ttx: The Volume issue, is better than it was - creating them now works.. There *may* be an issue attaching them [12:39] Daviey: ok [12:39] Did one more upload after you went last night.. am preparing another, but want to sync with euca to see if they are planning anything new today === cloakable_ is now known as cloakable [12:56] hi everyone [12:56] how to capture sound youtube audio with snd-dummy interface [13:16] New bug: #616754 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616754 [13:34] ttx: current papercuts are supposed to be chosen from https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/maverick-beta right? [13:36] ttx: I notice for instance that the pgadmin3 one "seems" owned by SpamapS, and ssl passphrase one is owned (for apache2) by zul. [13:36] New bug: #616759 in openssl (main) "CVE-2009-3555 tracking bug" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616759 [13:36] So I'm not clear on whether to take those or not [13:38] <_bt> hey who kick me from #ubuntu-virt [13:38] hallyn: looking [13:39] hallyn: that's the right list -- maybe coordinate with them and see if they want those bugs or if you can take them ? [13:40] ttx: ok, thanks [13:40] SpamapS: you already own 2 papercuts, would you want help with bug 610975, or do you want to take that one too? [13:40] Launchpad bug 610975 in server-papercuts "Can not start pgadmin3" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610975 [13:41] zul: bug 582963, I assume you'd like to be assigned that one for the papercuts target (since you own it for apache2)? [13:41] Launchpad bug 582963 in apache2 "SSL pass phrase dialog can't read input" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582963 [13:41] hallyn: sure [13:42] that might not exactly be a papercut though [13:52] hello all === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann-away [13:54] Hi guys === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [13:55]