[12:21] <falktx> traverso 0.49.2 is out
[12:22] <falktx> one fix is very important to ubuntu:
[12:22] <falktx> "Make Traverso work with Qt version >= 4.6.0"
[12:22] <falktx> it should go to maverick, then backported as soon as possible
[13:09]  * astraljava gets finally to upgrading his machines to Lucid.
[15:27] <scott-work> crimsun, during the last studio-devel meeting you mentioned the possibility of a "one click" change of audio server (pulse to jack)...is this still a possiblity?  is anyone working on it?  should we submit a blueprint for UDS-N?
[16:46] <astraljava> Hey scott-work, how are things? What's the latest on NetworkManager deal? Are there other issues that require some manpower? Sorry I've been so much away lately, the new house and the new puppy take some considerable amount of time, it seems. :)
[16:52] <scott-work> astraljava: lol
[16:53] <scott-work> astraljava: i think we may give up on getting network-admin fixed and try network-manager for the release candidates and ask for particular testing from users
[16:53] <scott-work> astraljava: this was arrived at after talking with luke
[16:53] <scott-work> astraljava: you can certainly help me with something if you have a maverick install handy
[16:54] <scott-work> astraljava: quadrispro has quite a few applications in the archives now that we could install if we choose to
[16:54] <astraljava> scott-work: At the moment, I don't. But that should be soon fixed, unless it gives me same kind of pain that the Lucid install gives.
[16:54] <scott-work> astraljava: i've been testing them to see if they work but there are several that fail to start or crash on me that i would like someone else to test and see if the experience the same
[16:55] <astraljava> scott-work: Alright, what's your arch? Mine would be amd64.
[17:03] <scott-work> astraljava: currently it's i386
[17:03] <scott-work> astraljava: although i might have an addition very soon :)
[17:05] <scott-work> astraljava:  the list of applications that were given me problems is at home at the moment, so the soonest i could constructively provide information would not be until +7 hours from now
[17:05] <scott-work> s/given/giving
[17:09] <astraljava> scott-work: No prob, I can look at them by tomorrow the earliest anyway. Currently I'm fighting to get my lucid install to boot.
[17:10] <scott-work> astraljava: not a major rush to get this completed right away, i would like to be able to establish which applications we do want to include with enough time to update the seeds and test a few daily builds before the next RC comes out
[17:10] <scott-work> astraljava: i think this gives us just less than two weeks :)
[17:10] <astraljava> scott-work: Alright, that's about how long I have vacation left. :)
[17:12] <astraljava> scott-work: Does US 10.04 have Plymouth?
[17:13] <astraljava> scott-work: My video card is turned off right away in the boot, and I can't seem to find any hints in the 'net about it.
[17:13] <scott-work> astraljava: yes it does, and the more i see the playmouth splash screen i did the more it grates me
[17:14] <scott-work> s/playmouth/plymouth
[17:14] <astraljava> I'm suspecting Plymouth for that, as it's the most obvious change since 9.04 regarding the early boot-phase.
[17:14] <scott-work> astraljava: hmmm, yeah it is, although i've also noticed that on some test installs i also only get text on the screen for some of the boot too
[17:18] <astraljava> scott-work: Would be too easy if I only got text on the screen. In my case, the graphics card gets turned off completely. :)
[17:20] <astraljava> scott-work: Yeah, looks like the system boots up correctly in every other way, but only the graphics card gives me gried.
[17:21] <astraljava> scott-work: Hmm... does rt kernel play along with nv graphics driver?
[17:24] <scott-work> astraljava: i dont' know, i've stopped using the -rt kernel since the -generic performs adequately for me...but that is a good questions
[17:25] <scott-work> perhaps abogani might be able to provide some information about the -rt kernel and video drivers ^^^
[17:29] <astraljava> scott-work: Wasn't anything to do with -rt kernel after all, there's no sign of it in /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[17:30] <astraljava> scott-work: Then it must be grub2's fault.
[17:33] <scott-work> in many ways i miss grub1
[17:34] <astraljava> Yeah I know what you mean.
[17:37] <astraljava> Meh, wasn't the plymouth issue either, removing splash from kernel options made no difference.
[17:44] <holstein> im using the RT kernel with what i assume is the nv driver
[17:44] <holstein> 64bit
[17:44] <holstein> no 3D
[17:44] <holstein> i installed the proprietary driver and got 3D
[17:44] <holstein> but that did not work with the RT kernel well at all
[17:45] <holstein> yeah, its nv... i had to make a custom xorg.conf to get my screen aspect correct
[17:47] <holstein> i got Bogani's ppa
[17:47] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa
[17:47] <holstein> but linux-rt and his linux-realtime seem stable
[17:51] <falktx> my ppa has patches for nvidia and ati drivers
[17:51] <falktx> the driver will compile on 2.6.33-rt, using dkms (as usual)
[17:51] <holstein> falktx: ive been meaning to ask about that
[17:51] <holstein> i got a little nervous when i added your PPA
[17:52] <falktx> i understand, it's big...
[17:52] <holstein> i got the 'partial upgrade' warning
[17:52] <falktx> do a dist-upgrade
[17:52] <falktx> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:52] <holstein> i ended up going with a couple other PPA's
[17:52] <falktx> holstein: if you find any problem on any package, I'll be happy to fix it
[17:52] <holstein> to get a newer kernel and newer ardour
[17:53] <holstein> falktx: yeah, your on it :)
[17:53] <holstein> falktx: do you think i can safely purge the PPA if i hit a wall?
[17:53] <falktx> many ppl use it by now, I hear all complains and fix the issues as soon as possible
[17:53] <falktx> holstein: i'm sure you won't need to, but, yes
[17:54] <holstein> i'll try it next time im in the studio with some time to kill
[17:54] <holstein> hmm.. maybe i can do that today :)
[17:54] <holstein> falktx: do you have any more up-to-date ffado packages?
[17:54] <holstein> or firewire stuff in general?
[17:55] <holstein> i have noticed a strange new issue
[17:55] <holstein> when i try to use an external firewire HD and my firepod
[17:55] <holstein> the HD seems to break the connection
[17:55] <holstein> i could use an external HD with the old freebob driver
[17:56] <falktx> holstein: i did not update any firewire stuff (may cause issues, and I can't test it)
[17:56] <holstein> and to be honest, i dont use the HD that often, so im not sure when it broke, or what exactly broke it
[17:56] <falktx> only jack1->jack2, but you already know that
[17:56] <holstein> that might be enough though
[17:56] <holstein> to fix it
[17:56] <falktx> jack2 seems even more stable than jack1
[17:57] <falktx> (it's now harder to get an app to crash jack)
[17:57] <holstein> that would nice