| klattimer | seb128: in lp:ubuntu/maverick/ibus the old app indicators patch has been applied | 09:05 |
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| klattimer | even though the patch still exists in the debian/patches folder | 09:05 |
| klattimer | seb128: in fact, my patch has been applied and then modified | 09:08 |
| seb128 | klattimer, hi | 09:09 |
| seb128 | to be honest I didn't check what the guy who did the update do | 09:09 |
| klattimer | :/ | 09:10 |
| seb128 | he probably just used the patch we had in lucid | 09:10 |
| klattimer | seb128: no, it's weirder than that | 09:10 |
| klattimer | the old patch is in the debian/patches folder | 09:10 |
| seb128 | well feel free to drop the patch and see if your version applies or need update | 09:10 |
| klattimer | but, the new patch has been applied to the code and checked in | 09:10 |
| seb128 | no | 09:10 |
| klattimer | ? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | would be very surprising | 09:11 |
| seb128 | I think it's just the new source format | 09:11 |
| klattimer | it's been modified from what I wrote too | 09:11 |
| seb128 | the patch is in the debian dir but already applied when unpacking the source | 09:11 |
| klattimer | and a comment added saying Icon from filename not supported yet for app indicator | 09:11 |
| klattimer | seb128: it's all different | 09:12 |
| seb128 | hum | 09:12 |
| seb128 | so maybe he tried to take the work in progress version you had at the time he did the update | 09:12 |
| klattimer | like the patch in lp:ubuntu/maverick/ibus is different to what's already been applied to the code and different to my ibus patch | 09:12 |
| seb128 | the guy who did the update is not a hacker | 09:12 |
| klattimer | :( | 09:13 |
| seb128 | he tried to make some of the patch apply without conflict | 09:13 |
| klattimer | all that needed to be done is change the 05_appindicator.dpatch | 09:13 |
| seb128 | well, just drop everything in that version and make your change apply to the new version | 09:13 |
| klattimer | grr, this is going to be hard to unpick now | 09:13 |
| seb128 | don't bother about packaging | 09:13 |
| seb128 | unpick? | 09:13 |
| klattimer | well, unless I can get a clean unpatched/broken version of ibus? | 09:14 |
| seb128 | well | 09:14 |
| klattimer | what would the lp: address be for that? | 09:14 |
| seb128 | tar xzf orig.tar.gz | 09:14 |
| seb128 | apt-get source ibus | 09:14 |
| klattimer | right but, I think the orig might have these same hacks in it | 09:14 |
| klattimer | will the source be the new version you mentioned? | 09:14 |
| seb128 | it would mean that upstream commit some appindicator support? | 09:15 |
| klattimer | no | 09:15 |
| seb128 | do apt-get source ibus | 09:16 |
| seb128 | rm the dir | 09:16 |
| seb128 | and untar the orig tarball | 09:16 |
| klattimer | seb128: I'll create a bzr branch for the packager to use, perhaps? | 09:16 |
| seb128 | re | 09:20 |
| seb128 | klattimer, you can probably use the current source, I'm not sure to get the issue | 09:20 |
| seb128 | klattimer, does running "quilt pop" in the source does what you want? | 09:20 |
| klattimer | I think I've got it ok now thanks for your help | 09:21 |
| seb128 | just run it a bunch of time to unapply the patches | 09:21 |
| klattimer | I'll create a bzr branch and push it up somewhere so the packager can use it | 09:21 |
| seb128 | it's that the source you get has patches applied | 09:21 |
| seb128 | quilt pop unapply those | 09:21 |
| seb128 | you should get back to a source without the debian patches this way | 09:21 |
| klattimer | quilt pop 06_show_menuitem.dpatch does not remove cleanly :/ | 09:23 |
| seb128 | weird | 09:23 |
| klattimer | I think he's checked it in after it's failed to patch or something | 09:24 |
| seb128 | hum | 09:24 |
| klattimer | because 05, 02,01 all patch -R -p1 < patch | 09:24 |
| klattimer | so I can reverse everything except 06 | 09:24 |
| seb128 | can you try to "apt-get source ibus" | 09:24 |
| seb128 | cd ibus-1.3.7 | 09:24 |
| seb128 | quilt pop | 09:25 |
| seb128 | if you get an error copy it there | 09:25 |
| seb128 | do it twice | 09:25 |
| seb128 | quilt pop | 09:25 |
| klattimer | getting source gets me 1.2.0 not 1.3.7?! | 09:26 |
| seb128 | sudo apt-get update | 09:26 |
| klattimer | ok now I have a clean source tree | 09:27 |
| klattimer | I'll generate my ibus patch for this updated ver | 09:27 |
| seb128 | klattimer, thanks | 09:29 |
| klattimer | seb128: updated patch has been uploaded to bug #564034 | 09:44 |
| ubot5 | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list.index(x): x not in list (https://launchpad.net/bugs/564034) | 09:44 |
| klattimer | which isn't that bug | 09:44 |
| klattimer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/564034 | 09:45 |
| ubot5 | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list.index(x): x not in list (https://launchpad.net/bugs/564034) | 09:45 |
| seb128 | klattimer, thank you and sorry for the trouble | 09:45 |
| klattimer | np | 09:45 |
| klattimer | these things happen :) | 09:45 |
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| davidbarth | bratsche: https://code.launchpad.net/~kamstrup/libindicator/robust-icon-loading/+merge/32566 | 11:56 |
| davidbarth | bratsche: do you know why ted had all of the explicit icon loading this way; kamstrup found that gicon currently uses the same scaling algorithm | 11:57 |
| bratsche | I'm not sure what his reason for this was. | 12:01 |
| davidbarth | bratsche: nevermind, the fix works; we'll check with him later today | 12:06 |
| thorwil | nice example of assumptions vs testing: http://ignorethecode.net/blog/2010/08/13/opinions_vs__data/ | 12:12 |
| aday | thorwil: interesting. google are well known for having a testing-led design process. there's advantages and disadvantages to that, of course... | 12:26 |
| aday | thorwil: http://stopdesign.com/archive/2009/03/20/goodbye-google.html | 12:31 |
| aday | "that data eventually becomes a crutch for every decision, paralyzing the company and preventing it from making any daring design decisions." | 12:31 |
| thorwil | aday: yeah, i had to think of that article when you mentioned disadvantages :) | 12:31 |
| aday | thorwil: not that i think f/oss is in danger of an over-reliance on user testing ;) | 12:32 |
| thorwil | aday: large improvements could be had with proper design methods or even just expert reviews that are then translated into changes. all before even testing, which could then bring to a further level up | 12:34 |
| aday | thorwil: yeah, we're getting better at that, but there's a long way to go | 12:35 |
| aday | thorwil: had some amazing results yesterday with a gsoc student, actually | 12:35 |
| thorwil | aday: what worries me a bit is that i think some deep changes would be required for some real ux improvements. for example getting to a point where hierarchical filesystems either don't exist anymore, or are something a user absolutely never has to care about | 12:38 |
| aday | thorwil: yeah, document management is *the* thing that needs fixing. i've talked about this with designers in the past, but we've never managed to get very far. we're all too busy fixing what we already have | 12:40 |
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| Cimi | davidbarth: received your mail | 13:57 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: hi | 14:06 |
| Cimi | davidbarth: I've just finished replying to the bugs | 14:06 |
| Cimi | davidbarth: I didn't know about "the thursday window" | 14:07 |
| Cimi | I was not at the pc because otto was busy with other tasks and told me to take some relax waiting him to come back on radiance ;) | 14:08 |
| Cimi | but since yesterday we are finishing radiance | 14:08 |
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| davidbarth | Cimi: ok, cool | 14:13 |
| Cimi | davidbarth: I know you love radiance, and you're gonna love this more | 14:13 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: no worries, the upload window is an internal DX thing, but it does help to streamline the flow of changes between us and the desktop guys | 14:13 |
| Cimi | I really like the new colors | 14:13 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: hehe, have a screenshot? | 14:14 |
| Cimi | yes but I want to share it when it will be perfect ;) | 14:14 |
| davidbarth | Cimi: ok, i'll wait then | 14:14 |
| seb128 | klattimer, the ibus indicator doesn't seem to work there | 14:24 |
| seb128 | ibus-daemon --verbose gives | 14:24 |
| seb128 | "/usr/share/ibus/ui/gtk/main.py", line 61, in __init__ | 14:24 |
| seb128 | self.__notify.attach_to_status_icon (self.__panel.get_status_icon()) | 14:24 |
| seb128 | TypeError: Notify.Notification.attach_to_status_icon() argument 1 must be gtk.StatusIcon, not None | 14:24 |
| klattimer | seb128: ugh | 14:24 |
| klattimer | maybe some of the patch corrupted | 14:24 |
| klattimer | I didn't rebuild the package as the patch seemed to apply OK with offsets | 14:24 |
| klattimer | can you try and select quit from the menu | 14:25 |
| seb128 | can you try to install it and see if it works for you? | 14:25 |
| seb128 | I've no menu or indicator displayed at all | 14:25 |
| klattimer | I got a problem 1 out of 5 times that it breaks all the menu signals | 14:25 |
| klattimer | oh!? | 14:25 |
| klattimer | that's very strange | 14:25 |
| klattimer | I'll take a look at it | 14:25 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:25 |
| klattimer | can you make sure you have m17n-db installed | 14:26 |
| seb128 | I don't | 14:26 |
| klattimer | that's the package the icons come with | 14:26 |
| klattimer | so you should probably install that | 14:26 |
| seb128 | installing | 14:26 |
| klattimer | ... that /should/ already be a dep | 14:26 |
| klattimer | :/ | 14:26 |
| seb128 | it's not | 14:27 |
| klattimer | :/ | 14:27 |
| seb128 | $ apt-cache rdepends m17n-db | 14:27 |
| klattimer | well, it's always depended on it | 14:27 |
| seb128 | Reverse Depends: | 14:27 |
| seb128 | scim-m17n | 14:27 |
| seb128 | m17n-contrib | 14:27 |
| seb128 | libm17n-0 | 14:27 |
| klattimer | as in, always required the icons from there | 14:27 |
| seb128 | doesn't make a difference | 14:28 |
| seb128 | do you get the error with ibus-daemon --verbose? | 14:28 |
| klattimer | have you tried restarting ibus? | 14:28 |
| klattimer | hold on, I have to rebuild the package | 14:28 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:28 |
| seb128 | I killall ibus-daemon between tests | 14:28 |
| seb128 | well I'm trying by running ibus-daemon --verbose now | 14:29 |
| seb128 | "/usr/share/ibus/ui/gtk/main.py", line 61, in __init__ | 14:29 |
| seb128 | self.__notify.attach_to_status_icon (self.__panel.get_status_icon()) | 14:29 |
| seb128 | TypeError: Notify.Notification.attach_to_status_icon() argument 1 must be gtk.StatusIcon, not None | 14:29 |
| seb128 | still getting that | 14:29 |
| klattimer | I don't think that should be the case | 14:30 |
| klattimer | so I'm gonna try and see what could be doing it | 14:30 |
| seb128 | I might be lacking a depends | 14:31 |
| seb128 | I tried to install some ibus-* to get input methods listed | 14:31 |
| klattimer | seb128: i'm having trouble building | 14:36 |
| klattimer | it's erroring on gir stuff | 14:36 |
| klattimer | IBus-1.0.gir exists in debian/tmp but is not installed anywhere | 14:36 |
| klattimer | ... | 14:36 |
| seb128 | klattimer, edit the rules | 14:37 |
| seb128 | dh_install | 14:37 |
| seb128 | drop the fail if missing thing | 14:37 |
| seb128 | that's because you have gir build requirements installed | 14:37 |
| klattimer | k | 14:38 |
| seb128 | you can "debuild binary" | 14:40 |
| seb128 | to avoid rebuilding from start | 14:40 |
| klattimer | seb128: yeah I see | 14:49 |
| klattimer | another file changed between 1.2.0 and 1.3.7 and now relies on the status icon | 14:49 |
| klattimer | I'll rework it | 14:49 |
| klattimer | and update the patch | 14:49 |
| seb128 | klattimer, thanks | 14:51 |
| klattimer | seb128: patch fixed testing now | 14:54 |
| klattimer | seb128: I've fixed the patch | 15:19 |
| klattimer | however another problem exists in that I can no longer add new input methods | 15:19 |
| klattimer | and I think that's related to the ibus-m17 package no-longer existing in 1.3.7 | 15:19 |
| seb128 | just install random ibus-.. | 15:19 |
| seb128 | apt-cache search ibus | 15:19 |
| seb128 | I installed the latex one for testing | 15:20 |
| klattimer | seb128: i still can't add input methods | 15:21 |
| klattimer | but if you can check out my patch on the bug | 15:21 |
| seb128 | ok will do | 15:21 |
| klattimer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/564034 | 15:21 |
| ubot5 | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list.index(x): x not in list (https://launchpad.net/bugs/564034) | 15:21 |
| klattimer | and see if it works for you | 15:21 |
| seb128 | you can't select those in the combo box in the second tab? | 15:22 |
| klattimer | I'm sure something went wrong in the packaging now that the ibus-m17 package is gone :/ | 15:22 |
| seb128 | it's a bit non obvious | 15:22 |
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| klattimer | I can't press the add button | 15:22 |
| seb128 | you need to open the combo, select one and then click add | 15:22 |
| klattimer | oh | 15:22 |
| klattimer | nm | 15:22 |
| klattimer | my fault | 15:22 |
| klattimer | seb128: just tested and it works fine | 15:23 |
| klattimer | :) | 15:23 |
| seb128 | excellent | 15:23 |
| seb128 | will review and upload that | 15:24 |
| defreng | good evening guys :) | 16:11 |
| defreng | I'm the developer of the gm-notify application and just wanted to ask if there are major API changes for since lucid, so I can adapt these into the application? | 16:12 |
| defreng | I just scanned the wiki but couldn't find something really new | 16:12 |
| defreng | *API changes since | 16:14 |
| kirohtoli | hi, y wanted to ask djsiegel a few simple questions about ubuntu unity, but he's not on line. can please anyone else help me with this? | 16:44 |
| kirohtoli | sorry about the bad english :( | 16:45 |
| kirohtoli | ok, thanks anyway, bye! | 16:47 |
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| fR_ | hey are any of the KDE folks around? I was wondering if someone could update the qt package in the dx-team PPA, currently the kubuntu PPA is newer so appmenu breaks. | 20:20 |
| ScottK | fR_: The one in the Maverick archive should be current. | 20:21 |
| fR_ | ScottK: ah, and that includes the appmenu patches? are there plans to backport this to lucid? | 20:24 |
| ScottK | Probably not. | 20:24 |
| fR_ | okay, thanks for the info. | 20:26 |
| ScottK | We may have it in a PPA somewhere. Let me check. | 20:28 |
| fR_ | oh, thanks. i have the kubuntu beta ppa which does include 4.7b2, but just not the appmenu patch. | 20:29 |
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