[03:29] <paultag> james_w: Hey, are you around?
[03:32] <james_w> hi paultag
[03:33] <paultag> james_w: Howdy. I'm playing with recipies, and I have a non-std source directory. Just wanted to bounce it off you, if you have time
[03:34] <james_w> sure
[03:35] <paultag> james_w: my upstream is http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/fluxbox.git, I have it mirrored at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~paultag/p5/debian-fluxbox
[03:35] <james_w> P5?
[03:36] <paultag> james_w: Paul's un-Paralleled Personal Project Pile
[03:36] <paultag> james_w: just my local mirror of random stuff
[03:39] <paultag> james_w: so the issue is that the source is not in the top level, the debuild -s goes on in the fluxbox-* dir under the root, and that pulls the tar files from ../
[03:40] <james_w> that's certainly not standard
[03:40] <maco> paultag: oh youre trying to do funny things with source packages and VCS too???
[03:40] <paultag> james_w: :)
[03:40] <paultag> maco: yeah, P.S. I just got this version of flux uploaded :)
[03:40] <maco> i had james_w confused with what im doing for gally, but its how the lp recipe stuff suggests!
[03:40] <maco> paultag: yay
[03:40] <paultag> maco: hahaaha
[03:40] <paultag> maco: :)
[03:41] <paultag> james_w: it's far from standard, but we can't ship binaries in the debian/ dir, and this is a mirror from git.debian, so I can't do a merge
[03:41] <paultag> or a nest, rather
[03:41] <paultag> ( the second tar.gz has our branding in it )
[03:41] <maco> by the way, i <3 firefox all-in-one-sidebar and tabmix. *really awesome* for vertical screen real estate
[03:41] <paultag> maco: yeah?
[03:42] <maco> paultag: my browser is not recognised as firefox by others :P
[03:42] <paultag> maco: thats when you know it's right :)
[03:43] <paultag> I've been playing with uzbl lately
[03:43] <paultag> it's pretty cool
[03:45] <paultag> james_w: any bits of wisdom for me?
[03:45] <james_w> paultag: nope, I'm not sure how to deal with that
[03:46] <paultag> james_w: is the backend using debuild -s ?
[03:46] <paultag> or dpkg-buildsource
[03:46] <paultag> or something else like that
[03:49] <james_w> debuild, yes
[03:49] <paultag> james_w: that will complete with success if the recipie allows me to cd before the build
[03:50] <paultag> james_w: is there any way of having it debuild from a child directory?
[03:52] <james_w> no
[03:52] <paultag> james_w: so, no solution, wontfix ?
[03:52] <paultag> ( that's not that much of an issue, this is a special case )
[03:53] <james_w> you can file a bug
[03:53] <james_w> there's no way to do that cd now
[03:53] <paultag> james_w: would it be worth it to do so?
[03:53] <paultag> I'm just not sure this would ever happen in an LP native package
[03:54] <paultag> and I don't think that what I'm doing is "right"
[03:54] <paultag> OK. Thanks james_w :)
[03:57] <paultag> night maco :)
[07:46] <ara> good morning all!
[07:49] <jussi> Huomenta Ara!
[07:51] <ara> hey jussi :)
[07:52] <dpm> good morning all!
[07:52] <dpm> morning ara, morning jussi
[07:53] <jussi> Hei dpm
[08:00] <dholbach> good morning
[08:02] <dpm> good morning dholbach, kim0
[08:03] <dholbach> hey dpm, kim0
[08:03] <ara> morning dholbach, dpm, kim0
[08:03]  * ara reboots after upgrading her laptop
[08:08] <dholbach> hola ara
[08:08] <ara> hey dholbach
[08:09] <dholbach> nigelb: seems we only made a bit of a dent: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/patches/
[08:14] <kim0> dpm: dholbach morning folks
[08:14]  * kim0 waves morning to all
[08:14] <kim0> morning ara :)
[08:24] <nigelb> dholbach: \o/
[08:24]  * nigelb hugs dholbach 
[08:24] <dholbach> nigelb: more patch review days
[08:25] <nigelb> dholbach: definitely.
[08:25] <nigelb> If we can get it to <500 I would be very happy
[08:25] <dholbach> we should talk to the guys from yesterday and see what their experience was like
[08:25] <dholbach> and maybe we can do something for UGJ
[08:27] <nigelb> dholbach: OMG!
[08:27] <nigelb> 19% !!!!!!
[08:27] <nigelb> \o/
[08:27]  * nigelb pops the champange
[08:27] <nigelb> dholbach: Yes, we should talk to the bug squad guys/gals to know what their experience was like.
[08:36] <dholbach> nigelb: thanks for looking into this! :)
[09:40] <dholbach> hola randa_
[09:40] <randa> hola dholbach
[09:41] <dholbach> ara: do you think we need to prepare much for the berlin jam? I think I could download all the ISOs in the office again, so we could get folks to upgrade and test
[09:46] <ara> dholbach, that would be great, yes
[09:47] <dholbach> ara: and I guess we should use squid-deb-proxy again :)
[09:47] <dholbach> ok, looks like you have everything sorted out already :)
[09:49] <ara> do I?
[09:49] <dholbach> ara: well, there's nothing on your todo list for it, is there? :)
[09:50] <ara> ah, OK, it looks like it
[10:55] <dpm> kim0, where did you add the ignoreabi option for your nvidia driver?
[10:56] <kim0> dpm: add this line to xorg.conf ServerLayout section =>   Option  "IgnoreABI"     "true"
[10:56] <jussi> http://pastebin.com/pzWyg9W1
[10:56] <jussi> theres an example xorg ;)
[11:00] <dpm> that's what confuses me, in one instance it is under ServerLayout, and on the other under ServerFlags. In any case, neither works for me.
[11:00] <dpm> thanks kim0 and jussi
[11:01] <jussi> dpm: you do have the ppa added...?
[11:02] <jussi> dpm: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[11:04] <dpm> yeah, and the latest nvidia driver installed
[11:08] <dpm> according to man xorg.conf it should go under ServerFlags - not that it makes a difference on my system
[11:09] <kim0> dpm: that's nvidia-current version for me => 256.44-0ubuntu0sarvatt3
[11:09] <kim0> dpm: might wanna join #ubuntu+1
[11:10] <dpm> same here
[11:10] <dpm> I should probably ask on the x guys channel
[12:37] <paultag_> nigelb: where do I file debdiffs for syncs to?
[12:58] <czajkowski> morning aloha
[12:59] <paultag> czajkowski: heyya :)
[13:11] <nigelb> paultag: no need of debdiff for  a sync
[13:12] <paultag> nigelb: I asked in motu and got a response. sorry for the ping
[13:12] <nigelb> just have a bug.  there is a synctool or something in ubuntu-dev-tools AFAIK
[13:12] <paultag> in devscripts,  yeah
[13:20]  * nigelb hugs paultag :)
[13:20]  * paultag hugs nigelb 
[13:20] <paultag> nigelb: it looks good, and it's almost done https://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=fluxbox
[13:21] <nigelb> paultag: woohoo!
[13:21] <paultag> nigelb: http://i.imgur.com/qsrT4.png <-- debian build, http://i.imgur.com/9JYf8.png <-- ubuntu build
[13:26] <nigelb> paultag: ROCKING!
[13:27] <paultag> nigelb: it should be nice to rid the debian swirl from the ubuntu release
[13:37] <nigelb> paultag: well, its subjective.
[13:37] <nigelb> I, for one, do not mind.
[13:43] <nhandler> nigelb: AFAIK, that script still hasn't gotten the official OK from the archive admins. I would still use requestsync for now
[13:43] <paultag> nigelb: it just looks rank amateur to look like you've not even put 10 minutes of work into the package :)
[13:43] <paultag> nhandler: that's the one I'm using :)
[14:09] <nigelb> nhandler: wait, requestsync is what I was talking about.
[14:10] <nhandler> nigelb: Ah, ok. There is another script (not sure if it is in u-d-t yet) that basically allows developers to actually perform a pseudo-sync
[14:37] <akgraner> Good Morning :-)  and Happy Happy Friday!
[14:38] <nhandler> Hello akgraner
[14:39] <akgraner> nhandler itnet7 pointed out the formating on the NC team reports and how it was appearing on the wiki page
[14:40] <akgraner> I fixed it on the newsletter but I wanted to show a couple people who help with the reports on the NC team why a little different formating was needed - so I'll fix the team reports page once I show them the example
[14:41] <nhandler> akgraner: What was the issue with that team again? (I can't keep the various problems straight)
[14:42]  * czajkowski hugs nhandler 
[14:42] <czajkowski> nhandler: just think if we had all 142 teams doing them!
[14:42] <akgraner> it's just not lining up with the other US team reports
[14:42] <akgraner> it just needs a == NC Team Report == above the include
[14:43] <akgraner> so it will line up when you run your script otherwise it's not indented correctly
[14:44] <nhandler> akgraner: Well, it might be worht mentioning that the TeamReport page already includes a title for their report. By including "Ubuntu North Carolina LoCo Team" in the report itself, it shows up twice
[14:44] <nhandler> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/July2010#Ubuntu%20North%20Carolina%20LoCo%20Team
[14:44] <akgraner> we can fix it :-) we can just delete it from the include
[14:45] <nhandler> :)
[14:45] <akgraner> just wanted to let you know we were aware of it
[15:12] <akgraner> AlanBell, ping
[15:15] <AlanBell> hi
[15:17] <akgraner> AlanBell, daviey got it - someone wanted mootbot-uk added to a channel ;-)
[15:17]  * akgraner <3's mootbot-uk
[15:18] <AlanBell> okies
[15:18]  * AlanBell will get back to work on the voting feature of the python one this weekend
[15:19] <akgraner> :-)
[16:28] <dholbach> ok my friends - I'm heading out for the weekend - have a good one and see you soon!
[16:28] <paultag> dholbach: before you go --
[16:28] <paultag> dholbach: I got my package in Debain, it builds the theme as you suggested, thanks for talking me off the ledge :)
[16:30] <dholbach> paultag: ROCK ON
[16:30] <dholbach> have a great WE
[17:06] <dpm> hey, any wiki experts around? I'm trying to find out why this page redirects to a pdf attachment: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Surveys/TeamsHealthcheck (at least on my firefox it does)
[17:06] <paultag> dpm: not that page?
[17:06] <paultag> dpm: let me test with FF
[17:07] <paultag> dpm: yeah, nothing here that redirects to a PDF
[17:07] <paultag> dpm: are you sure you don't have an ?attachment at the end of your url ?
[17:08] <dpm> paultag, I'm pretty certain, I've tried it several times. In any case, if that works for you, that's a great help, as now I know it's a problem on my side, so thanks :)
[17:09] <paultag> dpm: sure, I'll see if I can't reproduce some other way
[17:10] <paultag> dpm: Ah, I see why
[17:10] <paultag> dpm: the pdf is embedded. Is it this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Translations/Surveys/TeamsHealthcheck?action=AttachFile&amp;do=get&amp;target=SurveySummary.pdf
[17:11] <paultag> dpm: might want to change  * {{attachment:SurveySummary.pdf}} to be a [[  ]]
[17:11] <paultag> dpm: the {{ }} is for images IIRC ( showing them in-page ) and it's trying to render it as an object in the browser. Mine failed because it does not have the plugin, but I could see it redirecting to try and save face
[17:11] <dpm> paultag, right, but why can that possibly cause the redirect?
[17:11] <paultag> dpm: see above :)
[17:11] <paultag> dpm: it's throwing it in <object> tags
[17:12] <paultag> I'm pretty sure FF would freak out at that
[17:12] <dpm> paultag, ok, great, thanks. Yeah, I had installed adobereader for some testing, and the plugin loads the embedded document. Let me change it to [[]]
[17:12] <paultag> dpm: let's try and duplicate, one sec
[17:14] <paultag> dpm: http://me.pault.ag/test.html
[17:14] <paultag> dpm: does that do the same thing?
[17:15] <dpm> paultag, yeah, it does exactly the same thing in FF
[17:15] <paultag> dpm: OK, if you look at the source, that's the exact line from the page. Looks like a FF / MoinMoin issue, I'd file a bug if that's something you were expecting -- might want to [[ ]] to work around it
[17:19] <dpm> paultag, changing {{}} to [[]] did it, thanks a lot!
[17:19] <paultag> dpm: sure thing :)
[17:39] <cjohnston> howdy
[19:28]  * nigelb goes what in the.... http://www.impactlab.net/2010/07/29/amazing-miniature-pencil-sculptures-by-dalton-ghetti/
[22:30] <AlanBell> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/08/13/going-headless/
[22:30] <AlanBell> would appreciate feedback on that one