[00:35] <Muscovy> I suppose next week we'll get going on Maverick?
[00:38] <godbyk> Muscovy: Yeah, after we release the second edition of 10.04, we'll be moving on to the Maverick edition.
[00:57] <daker> hello everybody !!
[01:11] <Muscovy> Hello.
[01:11] <daker> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2039525&id=1582176372&l=29171fb83d
[01:12] <Muscovy> Nice!
[01:23] <Omega> So guys, what's up for tonight?
[02:18] <Muscovy> Here's a quickshot logo idea: http://www.flickr.com/photos/muscovyx/4886367385/
[03:43] <humphreybc> Muscovy: cool logo idea
[03:44] <humphreybc> although we probably don't want the screenshot to be dependant on an operating system or version
[03:53] <Muscovy> Yeah, good point.
[03:54] <Muscovy> I got the vague idea from Thorwil's concept.
[04:10] <Muscovy> Here's an edited that doesn't say Ubuntu _quite_ as much: http://www.flickr.com/photos/muscovyx/4886602265/
[10:22] <KE1HA> Hello all, anyone around ?
[10:38] <nisshh> KE1HA: yep, sup?
[10:46] <KE1HA> nisshh, Hello, where would we go to make a recommendation to add something to the manual? Bu the way, the install is working great.
[10:59] <nisshh> KE1HA: sorry i was AFK for a sec, what did you have in mind to recommend?
[11:02] <KE1HA> Well, After habing out in the UB channel and getting asked the same questions over and over, especially form New Users, I though it would eb good to add a back-Up how too or at least informaiton on what is critical and how they could approach it.
[11:03] <nisshh> KE1HA: can you expand on that, im not quite following what your saying just yet
[11:03] <nisshh> sounds interesting thoung
[11:03] <nisshh> though
[11:04] <KE1HA> Basically, how, and why to back up your data.
[11:04] <nisshh> ah
[11:04] <nisshh> KE1HA: you mean a new section in the manual on backing up your data?
[11:04] <KE1HA> I get asked constantly, how to back up my files, what should be backed up, where should I put it, simple stuffl like that.
[11:05] <nisshh> yea
[11:05] <KE1HA> It clearly fits the scope of the manual and is a good practice for any-level of manual actually.
[11:06] <KE1HA> Not to mention,we get asked at least 10 times a day, How Can I recover my data, or restor it after an install went wrong.
[11:06] <nisshh> KE1HA: it certainly makes sense, but the one problem is that (to the best of my knowledge) ubuntu doesnt HAVE a backup tool by default, and thats all we cover in the manual, dfault tools
[11:07] <KE1HA> Ahh... ok .. I see. Let me look at what is available in the Base Repo's. Im sure we can make somethign feasable.
[11:07] <nisshh> KE1HA: i think maybe as a workaround the the above problem, we could add some info to the manual about using a seperate /home directory, what do you think?
[11:08] <KE1HA> If nothing else, rsync and simple TAR / rsync commands woudl do it.
[11:08] <KE1HA> Yeah, seperate /home I dot that as a standard practice.
[11:08] <nisshh> KE1HA: we are trying to avoid the command-line :)
[11:08] <KE1HA> oosp I do that.
[11:08] <nisshh> hehe
[11:09] <nisshh> i use rsync too, but do you really think a new Ubuntu user would?
[11:09] <KE1HA> Doesn't work well when you Multi-Boot lots of Distros, but for a common Install, works great.
[11:09] <nisshh> yea
[11:09] <KE1HA> rsync A to B .. dead simple.
[11:09] <nisshh> not for a new user :)
[11:09] <KE1HA> on:-)
[11:10] <KE1HA> Well, that's out Job, it to make it "easy" for new users :-)
[11:10] <KE1HA> our Job.
[11:10] <nisshh> KE1HA: but all the same, you have a very good point, its something worth thinking about for the maverick manual
[11:10] <nisshh> exactly right
[11:10] <KE1HA> I'll work on something, and give you a shout back in a few days.
[11:10] <nisshh> KE1HA: awesome, no rush, it probably wont get chucked in till maverick anyway
[11:11] <KE1HA> Ok, TNX, will ttul.
[11:11] <nisshh> yep :)
[11:22] <KE1HA> nisshh, you still around?
[11:23] <KE1HA> If not, no worries, you'll when you get back, but Quick-Shot install just crashed X on my workstation, gonna try and track down what happened. Its working after reboot though.
[12:01] <nisshh> KE1HA: you should talk to jenkins if your quickshot install isnt working properly
[12:33] <KE1HA> Hi nisshh it's working after install, was just during the install that is crashed.
[12:40] <nisshh> KE1HA: ah cool :)
[12:42] <KE1HA> nisshh, Now I just have to learn how it's used properly :-)  I may need to do a Workstaiton that's all native too, as the menu's have additional items as such.
[12:55] <nisshh> KE1HA: ah yea
[18:55] <jenkins> evening all
[18:57] <jenkins> linux outlaws is called Neckbeards Unite! lol ben
[19:09]  * jenkins thanks his dad for unplugging the router
[19:35] <nschle85> hello
[19:35] <nschle85> are there any native english speakers herer
[19:35] <nschle85> ?
[19:46] <jenkins> nschle85: yep
[19:47] <jenkins> what are you stuck on?
[20:09] <nschle85> jenkins: is depencies a real english word ?
[20:11] <godbyk> nschle85: Should be "dependencies".
[20:11] <jenkins> nschle85: yep dependencies is in the oxford dictionary
[20:12] <jenkins> I was just double checking that i had typed it right :)
[20:13] <nschle85> jjjjjjjjje
[20:13] <nschle85> jenkins: should be or is ?
[20:14] <jenkins> if you spell it right is is an english word
[20:14] <nschle85> is "depencies" spelled right ? (google it please)
[20:16] <jenkins> dependencies is right I looked it up in a dictionary. "depencies"  is wrong
[20:16] <nschle85> thank you
[20:16] <jenkins> np