[00:18]  * jdong_ giggles
[00:18] <jdong_> http://web.mit.edu/jdong/www/cores.png
[00:18] <jdong_> g-s-m doesn't seem to be optimized for a 24-core machine
[00:18] <ajmitch> aw
[00:19] <ajmitch> what are you using? a sun box?
[00:19] <jdong_> ajmitch: reproduction new mac pro
[00:19] <ajmitch> or is this boring old x86?
[00:19] <jdong_> err PREproduction
[00:19] <jdong_> yeah it's just a 2x6-core nehalem westmere
[00:19] <ajmitch> nice
[00:19] <chrisccoulson> nice!
[00:20] <jdong_> it's very shiny
[00:20] <chrisccoulson> this is the sort of thing i need for building mozilla on ;)
[00:20] <jdong_> and expensive.
[00:20] <ajmitch> 8GB RAM, I thought you'd have more in it
[00:20] <jdong_> ajmitch: working on that
[00:20] <jdong_> took enough hunting around to find this machine
[00:20] <jdong_> I'll have to go on a RAM hunt later
[00:20] <ajmitch> given that you can buy laptops relatively cheaply with 8GB RAM
[00:20] <jdong_> well it's cheap DDR3 1066 RAM in these things too
[00:20] <jdong_> I just need to find 6 symmetric sticks
[00:20] <ajmitch> probably a little expensive
[00:21] <jdong_> ironically
[00:21] <jdong_> I've got 32GB worth of FB-DIMMs under my desk
[00:21] <jdong_> which must be expensive as hell
[00:21] <ajmitch> heh
[00:21] <jdong_> too bad it doesn't fit in these new towers
[00:22] <ajmitch> so, archive rebuilds on this box? :)
[00:22] <jdong_> hahaha
[00:22] <jdong_> wouldn't that be awesome?
[00:22] <jdong_> they're GenuineIntel 0000's at 2.66GHz
[00:23] <ajmitch> as long as you have fast enough storage
[00:23] <jdong_> sadly not the default config of these things
[00:23] <jdong_> I need to scavenge up a few more drives too
[00:23] <jdong_> it only came with 1 hitachi 640GB SATA
[00:24] <jdong_> okay
[00:24] <jdong_> I clearly don't have enough RAM to be make -j25'ing
[00:24] <directhe`> jdong_, g-s-m from sles10 sadly doesn't do anything fancy on many-many-core systems
[00:24] <ajmitch> yeah
[00:25] <jdong_> directhe`: I was just doing some confidential make -j4 builds on it, and that made the lines dance around a bit
[00:26] <directhe`> jdong_, iirc you don't get any lines on g-s-m in sles10. i wonder how many cores would be used by g-s-m's crummy drawing code to draw 256 lines
[00:26] <jdong_> hahaha
[00:26] <jdong_> it's using radeonhd too XD
[00:27] <directhe`> Christian Hergert has some infinitely more lightweight & smoother graph code
[00:28] <jdong_> cool
[01:09] <micahg> directhe`: do you maintain a PPA of the last moonlight for Lucid?
[01:51] <paultag> heyya lfaraone, any chance we could finish up before I kick off for the night?
[02:10] <lfaraone> paultag: yes, I just got back from dinner.
[02:11] <lfaraone> paultag: I just checked with madduck, he says he'd like to be removed from uploaders.
[02:13] <paultag> lfaraone: I'll reflect the change
[02:13] <paultag> lfaraone: thank you for checking, btw
[02:14] <lfaraone> paultag: okay. I'd commit it directly, but I'm not sure exactly how you're doing your packaging, it doens't seem to be like any git-buildpackage setup I've seen :)
[02:15] <paultag> lfaraone: I did not know there was something common? I'm just tracking the debian branch + the tar.gzs to run the builds right off the directory
[02:15] <paultag> lfaraone: is that bad?
[02:16] <lfaraone> paultag: well, before in e270e7737d232a283ee18c28f6277e07ae05eb9b, you could run "git-buildpackage -S" from the repository, and gbp would regenerate the tarballs from pristine-tar and handle everything nicely.
[02:17] <lfaraone> paultag: http://honk.sigxcpu.org/projects/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.html
[02:17] <paultag> lfaraone: ach. Damn. I'll read up on these guidelines :). I have a tendency to do things the hard way
[02:18] <paultag> lfaraone: changes noted in git.debian, btw
[02:19] <lfaraone> paultag: hmmm. you're using multiple tarballs, which isn't supported by git-buildpackage, so I guess what you're doing is *okay*.
[02:20] <paultag> lfaraone: yeah, my DD asked me to use two tarballs before I left
[02:20] <paultag> lfaraone: is there a better way to do what I'm trying to do?
[02:20] <lfaraone> paultag: not as far as I can tell.
[02:20] <paultag> Righto
[02:27]  * lfaraone is building
[02:28] <paultag> lfaraone: really, thanks so much, again. This is far above what I expected
[02:28] <lfaraone> paultag: happy to help
[03:06] <lfaraone> paultag: by the way, what happened to your watchfile? it disapparated between versions.
[03:06] <paultag> lfaraone: crud, it might have got lost when I messed up my git directory on my server
[03:06] <paultag> lfaraone: Let me import it back in
[03:08] <lfaraone> paultag: I'll just copy it over from your previous version for now.
[03:09] <paultag> lfaraone: just did that on the git repo
[03:09] <paultag> lfaraone: pushed in
[03:10] <paultag> Gah, forgot to add changelog
[03:33] <lfaraone> paultag: uploaded, thank you for your contribution to Debian. (and eventually Ubuntu)
[03:33] <paultag> lfaraone: thank you so much for your help, you've really helped me along
[03:34]  * paultag hugs lfaraone 
[03:34] <paultag> lfaraone: try and make OLF, it's always fun
[03:36] <lfaraone> paultag: it's been a pleasure. I'll see what I can do, re OLF.
[03:37] <paultag> :)
[04:51] <micahg> SpamapS: I assume you've tested the mongodb stuff?
[04:51] <micahg> SpamapS: BTW, the lintian overrides don't apply in Ubuntu
[04:54] <micahg> ScottK: does adding a wrapper so a package doesn't need a rebuilt for every xul update need an FFe
[05:12] <micahg> I have a question about merging from debian and updating the upstream, how does that work?
[05:12] <micahg> 1 changelog mentioning both?
[05:19] <RAOF> micahg: Yup.
[05:19] <micahg> RAOF: got it, thanks
[05:19]  * micahg now has to fix a 600 line patch that failed in 12 different hunks...
[05:21] <ScottK> micahg: Sounds like a bug fix to me.
[05:21] <micahg> ScottK: k, thanks
[05:21] <micahg> SpamapS: can I copy your license?
[05:28] <SpamapS> micahg: yes of course. :)
[05:28] <micahg> SpamapS: thanks
[05:28] <SpamapS> micahg: I did test the mongodb to the level of running mongod, logging in with 'mongo', passing args to 'mongos'
[05:29] <micahg> SpamapS: k, and everything works normally w/the wrapper I'm adduming?
[05:29] <micahg> *assuming
[05:29] <SpamapS> micahg: I installed it on lucid and maverick with both 1.9.2.8 and 1.9.2.3, both worked fine.
[05:29] <SpamapS> or I should say, all 4 worked fine. ;)
[05:34] <micahg> SpamapS: do you have libmozjs installed?
[05:35] <SpamapS> micahg: the only libmozjs I have is in /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.x
[05:36]  * micahg wonders how you could build mongodb then
[05:36] <micahg> I can't even generate the source tarball w/out libmozjs
[05:39] <SpamapS> micahg: I've had no problems. Where are you bombing out?
[05:41] <SpamapS> micahg: I did have one time where scons tried to run something that was linked against the wrong libmozjs.so... to fix that I just did 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/xulrunner-`xulrunner-1.9.2 --gre-version` debuild clean' and started over
[05:42] <micahg> SpamapS: that won't help when building in a clean env
[05:42]  * micahg tries something
[05:43] <SpamapS> micahg: I believe the only reaosn that was an issue was that I had switched from 1.9.2.8 to 1.9.2.3 while mid-build
[05:48] <micahg> SpamapS: nope
[05:48] <lfaraone> jcastro: hi, George. You misspelled "Faraone" again :X
[05:48] <SpamapS> micahg: I'm uploading to PPA now, whats the error?
[05:48] <lfaraone> jcastro: ref: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/912710482/stack-applet-vanity-for-your-se-rep
[05:49] <micahg> SpamapS: I think I need to export LD_LIBRARY_PATH in debian/rules, but I could never get it to work right
[05:49] <ajmitch> lfaraone: shall we just say "that debian guy"? :)
[05:50] <SpamapS> micahg: Why would we suddenly need to do that now though?
[05:50] <SpamapS> micahg: there can be no dependency on libmozjs.so until we've linked against it..
[05:50] <SpamapS> and scons takes care of the rpath..
[05:51] <lfaraone> ajmitch: that might work, but I've toiled very hard to build a strong brand identity :)
[05:53] <ajmitch> lfaraone: besides, 'that debian guy' isn't overly specific
[05:53] <lfaraone> ajmitch: hehe. at least it was corrected when they posted the slides from the Ubuntu-Debian talk online :) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/debian%20and%20ubuntu.pdf
[05:54] <SpamapS> micahg: we only have to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH for when the path changes but the binaries haven't.
[05:54] <maco> lfaraone: yeah the 3rd time he uploaded ;-)
[05:55] <maco> (first upload was old version without that last slide, second was misspelled, then i pointed it out, third is right)
[05:55] <ajmitch> lfaraone: oh great, I was hoping I'd see those slides somewhere :)
[05:55] <micahg> SpamapS: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/477283/
[05:55]  * lfaraone is surprised that it isn't hosted on ubuntu one :)
[05:56] <SpamapS> micahg: yeah thats the one I got when I had to start over from scratch, but I only had to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to run 'debuild clean'
[05:56] <SpamapS> micahg: I may have exported it tho.. that would be t3h suck
[05:56] <SpamapS> micahg: ugh, I need more cores for building
[05:56] <micahg> SpamapS: yeah, let me know if your ppa works :)
[05:56] <ajmitch> lfaraone: we can lart jcastro about that later
[05:57]  * SpamapS starts dreaming about a cluster of ec2 machines for compiling...
[05:57] <ajmitch> lfaraone: maybe it's because he uses debian & the u1 client isn't in there yet ;)
[05:57] <lfaraone> ajmitch: ahaha.
[05:58] <ajmitch> hopefully soon
[06:07] <SpamapS> micahg: https://launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+archive/fixes/+build/1917296
[06:07] <SpamapS> micahg: looks like the buildd's are busy. :-/
[06:07] <micahg> yes :)
[06:08]  * SpamapS wishes he could stuff quarters in and have it spawn ec2 nodes
[08:00] <dholbach> good morning
[08:00] <AnAnt> Hello
[08:01] <dholbach> hey AnAnt
[08:26] <AnAnt> I haven't seen persia for some while
[09:49] <huats> morning
[12:40] <paultag_> Hey MOTU. I would like to request a sync with Debian, I have the debdiff if that helps. Where should I file the bug on LP?
[12:40] <AnAnt> You'll need to file a freeze exception
[12:41] <paultag_> AnAnt: it's not adding new features, and it closes a few lintian errors + lp bugs
[12:41] <AnAnt> btw, is it a sync or merge ? you mentioned a debdiff
[12:42] <paultag_> AnAnt: sync. I don't know the process
[12:42] <paultag_> AnAnt: it will work fine on Ubuntu ( and even theme it's self right )
[12:42] <AnAnt> requestsync -se <package> maverick
[12:42] <Laney> paultag_: you want the requestsync script from ubuntu-dev-tools
[12:42] <Laney> and a Launchpad account
[12:42] <paultag> thanks Laney, AnAnt :)
[12:43] <paultag> Laney: Yup, all set. I'll rt f'n m :)
[12:43] <AnAnt> Laney: but still it needs a freeze exception, right ?
[12:43] <Laney> AnAnt: not if it's a bug fix upload
[12:43] <AnAnt> ok
[12:44] <paultag> Laney: shucks, will this not let me do it from Unstable?
[12:44] <Laney> paultag: It all depends on what the upload contains
[12:45] <Laney> where it comes from doesn't matter
[12:45] <paultag> Laney: it's erroring out saying they are in sync, it was uploaded and built last night
[12:45] <AnAnt> by default sync'ing is from unstable
[12:45] <paultag> Hurmm
[12:45] <Laney> does rmadison know about it?
[12:45] <paultag> Laney: about my package?
[12:46] <Laney> the new version
[12:46] <AnAnt> rmadisom -u debian <package>
[12:46] <paultag> thank AnAnt :)
[12:46] <paultag> Laney: no, looks like it does not
[12:47] <AnAnt> your package is not fully uploaded to debian servers, it takes time
[12:47] <Laney> ok then you can either wait some time until it does (shouldn't be more than a few hours) or file the request manually
[12:47] <paultag> OK, cool. I can wait :)
[12:47] <paultag> thanks Laney, AnAnt
[12:47] <Laney> nps
[13:17] <SpamapS> micahg:  https://launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+archive/fixes/+build/1917296 ... built fine
[14:23] <sebner> huhu RainCT :)
[14:24] <RainCT> Hey sebner
[16:18] <paultag> E: Could not connect to fiordland.ubuntu.com:25: Connection timed out (110)
[16:18] <paultag> Anyone have advice? I'm trying to run a sync :)
[16:19] <Laney> paultag: try with the --lp option
[16:19] <Laney> you'll need to manage-credentials create -c ubuntu-dev-tools first
[16:19] <paultag> Laney: thanks :)
[16:21] <Laney> . o O ( surely not a version of fluxbox with stray .git files ;)
[16:21] <paultag> Laney: That took me a minute to figure out that was you on OFTC too :)
[16:22] <paultag> Laney: Seriously, though. Is that a big issue?
[16:22] <Laney> well if you'll be uploading a new version to sid to fix it…
[16:22] <paultag> Laney: I don't have my DD or DM, so I'll have to get another review. I was going to wait until my DD on flux gets back
[16:23] <paultag> Laney: I just wanted to get the critical stuff knocked out before 10.10
[16:23] <paultag> Laney: his dad died and he's been out for about two weeks now, and no signs of getting back in the short term
[16:24] <Laney> fair, you should request it but keep on top of what's happening in Debian
[16:24] <paultag> Laney: Roger
[16:29] <sistpoty|work> paultag: can you add a build log and state about testing to bug #617445 please? thanks
[16:29] <sebner> huhu sistpoty|work :)
[16:29] <paultag> yeah sistpoty|work, I'll do that now
[16:29] <sistpoty|work> hi sebner
[16:29] <sistpoty|work> paultag: thanks, and also I'll get personally angry if fluxbox breaks :P
[16:29] <sebner> sistpoty|work: no nexuiz ffe work anymore for us I guess, hope xonotic is ready soon though :P
[16:29] <paultag> sistpoty|work: me too :P
[16:29] <sistpoty|work> heh
[16:30] <paultag> sistpoty|work: thanks for getting to that so soon :)
[16:30] <sistpoty|work> np
[16:30] <paultag> sistpoty|work: if this pulls through, we'll be ahead of Gentoo
[16:31] <sistpoty|work> woohoo
[16:41] <paultag> sistpoty|work: all set, if you need more, let me know. Be sure to check it out, too, I added new themes for Debian and Ubuntu a bit back
[16:43] <micahg> SpamapS: I'll take another look over teh weekend at your merge
[16:44] <ScottK> sistpoty|work: It's worth noting that paultag is also asking for a freeze exception for Squeeze.
[16:44] <sistpoty|work> seen that
[16:45] <sistpoty|work> paultag: I assume rdepends aren't affected?
[16:46] <paultag> sistpoty|work: only fluxconf, I filed a severe bug on it, but that package has been broken for over 2 years now. No new damage
[16:46] <sistpoty|work> paultag: ok, great, then I'd say let's get it in :)
[16:46] <paultag> sistpoty|work: :)
[16:47] <SpamapS> micahg: cool
[22:00] <Laney> ScottK: Will you be free for a call in … 10 mins ish?
[22:00] <ScottK> Laney: Possibly.
[22:03] <Laney> OK. Ping me if/when
[22:04] <ScottK> Laney: I'm tied in in work stuff for a bit yet.
[22:07] <Laney> ScottK: Let me know when you're free and if we sync up then we can do it tonight, otherwise another time
[22:07] <ScottK> OK.
[23:20]  * Laney is happy that there is pushback on -devel@
[23:21]  * Laney notes that these were his concerns at UDS
[23:25] <ScottK> Feel free to join the 'fun'.
[23:26] <ScottK> Rhonda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GerfriedFuchs?action=diff&rev1=7&rev2=8 is interesting.  Particularly who made the change ...