[00:05] * robbiew closes his eyes and holds on [00:08] hmm, something changed post-release to cause lilo-installer to fall out of the alternate ISO [00:09] er, no - cause it to be /added/ to [00:09] ... nope, I was right the first time [00:18] ah, cjwatson made that change, alrighty then :) [00:42] dropping langpacks from the daily-live ISO for .1; the package growth since 10.04 has all been in either the kernel or in firefox/xulrunner, both of which are infeasible to recover size from in the time remaining :( === maxb_ is now known as maxb [09:11] are we having freeze exception delegates as per previous cycles? [09:56] do you guys know when are we going to see the first 10.04.1 candidate images in the ISO tracker? [12:13] ara: so far our release manager hasn't appeared so I wouldn't hold your breath [17:59] slangasek: hey - in which order are you planning to spin the 10.04.1 isos? [18:01] barry: as I understand it, py27 was delayed by the release team (but ScottK might know more) [18:02] * ScottK looks at robbiew. [18:02] * ScottK just mentioned it needed deciding since it wasn't done before FF. [18:02] * robbiew thinks we need to postpone it [18:03] as it's not done [18:03] and FF is here [18:03] * barry is sad [18:04] right, we talked about it before i went on vacation that the remaining handful of ftbfs could be fixed before beta [18:04] (in main) [18:05] and that i was committed to working on those and the universe failures [18:05] sorry, I didn't track this too close this week [18:06] barry: there was some concern from seb128 about the work it would take [18:07] also on the rebuilds it would cause [18:08] it would probably be ~500 packages in main+uni [18:08] iirc [18:08] robbiew: we'll have an arm rebuild of some packages anyway at some point [18:09] so what do we lose by doing it early in 11.04 [18:10] robbiew: probably not much practically speaking. i wonder though if it's possible/feasible to make the python2.7 package available even if not supported (i.e. no changes to python-support, python-central, python-defaults). does that give us much? [18:10] doko? ScottK? ^ [18:10] i do know that folks would like py27 in maverick, but i suppose waiting 6months won't kill them ;) [18:11] robbiew, barry: that I did last Sunday. it's in main (at least I pushed it there) [18:11] python2.7 is in Maverick. It's just not supported for modules and extensions. [18:11] doko: cool [18:11] No issue with that. [18:11] Although it can drop to Universe if it won't be supported. [18:12] what we should do is to explicitely add support in distribute, python-profiler and python-std-lib-extension [18:12] mathiaz: in a very fast order, why? :) [18:12] Then it would need to be in Main, but that shouldn't be a problem. [18:12] doko: what do we need to add there? [18:12] support for 2.7 [18:13] basically update the mav packages from my ppa [18:14] doko: is that just merging in your changes, or more work? if the latter, how can i help given that i can't upload them? [18:15] barry: let me look at it tomorrow, before I say something wrong [18:17] doko: okay :). i'm happy to do any and all grunt work to make this happen. if we can get those changes in then at least people can more easily start w/2.7 and i can adjust my ppas to work out the remaining build failures. i'll contact the appropriate mailing lists and give a status + solicit help and will work with upstreams to get fixes in, and updates in debian. then early in 11.04 we can flip the switch. that'll give us the rest [18:17] of this cycle and all next cycle to make this a very solid offering [18:17] thanks barry :) [18:18] I'm sure ScottK is just a little bit happier inside now, too [18:18] lol [18:18] Now barry will have lots of free time to fix other stuff. [18:19] robbiew: np! [18:19] ScottK: this is how you repay me for making you happy? :) [18:20] barry: Sure. Plenty to do and you claim you're looking for more experience. [18:21] ScottK: thank you sir, can i have another? :) [18:21] lol [18:22] * barry is glad someone gets the reference [18:24] slangasek: I'm working on the test plan for the -server isos [18:24] slangasek: Having an idea about when the -server isos would be available would help [18:25] doko, ScottK, robbiew thanks [18:26] barry: no...thank you ;) [18:35] mathiaz: ETA 20 minutes [18:36] slangasek: \o/ [18:36] slangasek: this is awesome! [20:04] which archive admin rejected python-box2d and why? [20:15] bdrung, Looks like it's still in the new queue to me. [20:16] Daviey: i got two mail: "python-box2d_2.0.2+svn20100109.244-1_source.changes rejected" and "sugar-physics-activity_5+dfsg-1_source.changes rejected" [20:19] bdrung, Interesting.. The source package was rejected, but binary i386 and sparc are still in NEW. [20:20] Daviey: why can a binary be build if the source isn't accepted? [20:20] That is a very good point.. I an intrigued as you are! [21:56] bdrung: If it got uploaded more than once, it would likely get accepted once and rejected once. [21:56] ScottK: ok, then the question is: how does it get uploaded twice? [21:57] It's not rare for someone to upload a new package, realize it has a mistake, and then upload it again. [21:57] Or two sponsors collide and they both upload it. [21:57] I've seen both happen. [21:57] ScottK: but i uploaded them days ago [21:59] ok, it was only a half day ago. [21:59] ScottK: shouldn't it get rejected immediately? [21:59] Not if it's still in New. [22:00] instead of getting a New message. [22:01] so they are in New, chapter closed [22:01] It might not make sense, but that's how it works at the moment. [22:03] the reject message should be more verbose [22:04] * bdrung has to do some network analysis. bbl [23:43] ScottK, bdrung: bug #62976 [23:43] Launchpad bug 62976 in soyuz "Soyuz should not allow duplicated packages in NEW/UNAPPROVED queue" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62976 [23:45] wow, that's a low bug number [23:45] wgrant: thanks for this link [23:46] We only have one two-digit bug left in LP :( [23:46] wgrant: which one? [23:48] bug #25 [23:48] Launchpad bug 25 in rosetta "Allow discussion/commenting on translations (affects: 12) (dups: 3) (heat: 82)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25 [23:51] ubuntu desktop, alternate posted for 10.04.1