=== elky` is now known as elky [12:28] hiya === izdubar is now known as MarkDude [21:21] woo hoo! UbuCon happening at Ohio Linux Fest now :-) \0/ Happy Dance time! [21:22] time to go play happy band parent and work a concession stand... (not so happy dance on that one - it's freakin' hot outside :-/) [21:23] heh [21:23] have fun [21:24] akgraner: You should see all the gymnastics parents where I'm at now [21:24] Be glad it's band :p [21:56] ft\ [22:08] hello ladies [22:18] Hello boy austin [22:18] rly [22:24] wait u can use abbreviation but every one else make a big deal when i do [22:31] How about little dude Austin, better [22:31] ? [22:31] I was mocking you if that was not clear [22:32] Quite a few patient people here, I am not one of them [22:32] If you are genuine tho, this is a really cool group of people here [22:32] No big deal, just try again [22:32] Its all good :) [22:34] MarkDude: Regardless of the truth of it, http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml tends to work a lot better than calling people trolls. The latter doesn't really help (if they are, the ops generally can figure that out themselves:), and isn't likely to get them to change their behavior. [22:34] * MarkDude will leave that to the reasonable folks [22:35] * MarkDude 's Elder Statesman progress can only happen at a certain rate, but, I am trying [22:36] MarkDude: shouting "troll!" at people just makes them defensive [22:37] Or sometimes like in this case it was a reality check [22:37] It appears that i was wrong. And that he may have just been mistaken :) [22:37] is best to just not say anything, in my experience. I've had #ubuntu-offtopic ops express frustration in places I can read when I (used to) call people out :) [22:38] unless nobody's around and it gets to be a large disruption, and then there's the ops factoid [22:38] Being rude - even if unintentional deserves a reaction [22:38] IMHO [22:38] reasonableness works almost all of the time, not all tho [22:39] Especially with men, I have been spoken to about being to uppity [22:40] Fact is it is hard for a man to realize what it is like to be called a disrespectful term, unless it happens to them [22:40] *reality* even if a small % of the time [22:40] some reactions work better than others. some have a net worse effect than not saying anythingg [22:40] You are correct on the whole rww [22:40] so, next time someone asks "are men allowed here?" the answer is !men [22:41] I only reacted after the who sets the rules here [22:41] Common sense here [22:41] Anyway , are you going to DVLUG tonight [22:42] maco: if only there were an xkcd about male feminists. we could make a modified copy of !girls :) [22:42] well for now we have... [22:42] !men [22:42] Yes, men exist within the Ubuntu Women Project. [22:42] thanks maco :) [22:43] Keep in mind, both the !men and !guidelines are channel specific factoids for here and #ubuntu-women. They won't work in other channels [22:44] Yep, there should be global reminders tho [22:44] nhandler: well the normal guidelines one will work elsewhere :P [22:45] maco: Yes, but it will be different :) [22:45] right but elsewhere doesnt need to be told to read ours [22:46] i dont *think* !men needs to be global... nobody asks elsewhere whether men are allowed in the channel [22:47] Agreed [22:49] might need a !women elsewhere though (yes, women exist on the internet) :P [22:49] * pleia2 removes tongue from cheek [22:49] we have one :) [22:50] !women [22:50] The women and men of the Ubuntu Women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively. [22:50] !girls [22:50] Girls exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | http://www.xkcd.com/322/ | For more interesting reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ [22:50] oh :) [22:50] neat [22:52] the women factoid should say women & men that play well together [22:52] you and your ampersands :( [22:52] MarkDude: that could be misconstrued [22:52] * MarkDude went to *Im ok - your ok preschool* [22:53] do they not have appostrophes there? [22:53] * maco runs [22:53] Playing well with others is the ideal, IMHO [22:53] your okay what? [22:53] * rww also runs [22:53] No, but they taught us that that most people are ok, as long as they play well with others [22:57] MarkDude: it is always polite to help people find their loco team [22:57] yes. that is true [22:58] if someone appears to be in the wrong place, then guide them to a more appropriate place [22:58] Minus the spelling, the actions now happening are an improvement from the start [22:59] Just sayin' [22:59] indeed [22:59] :) [23:00] * MarkDude was set to go on a date a while ago, I was able to look past the spelling on the texting, but, when I saw she did that in email, I was the opposite of stoked [23:10] ed [23:12] No biggy Austin . And for the record, I m given a bad time for some of the slang I use. [23:12] Even more so from folks in California [23:20] wat slang [23:21] is anyone still here [23:23] The slang that I use [23:23] dude, stoked, etc [23:23] 3rd generation Californian - I am one of those [23:32] Austin: "wat" is not a word in English [23:33] I say "dude" a lot too. And "totally". [23:33] MarkDude has contagious slang, 5 months here and I end up with "hella" in my vocabulary [23:33] I was just going to mention that one. :) [23:34] nah, that's a general Californian thing. You'll probably start abusing 'like' soon, too. [23:34] everyone in the US abuses like [23:34] California started it ;P [23:34] like totally [23:36] Righteous bro, is a phrase I have been trying to eliminate from my vocab [23:36] dont forget the word *awesome* [23:36] I abuse that one too :) [23:36] althara: #ubuntu-california's bot used to be named LikeTotally :) [23:36] sweet [23:36] I try to use it in the dictionary sense of the word [23:37] anyways, we should perhaps shift this over to -women ;P [23:37] rww: aww, I like that better [23:37] I use it sarcastically for the most part [23:37] the word dude has like 20+meanings [23:38] * MarkDude and my excessive use of like as a *filler* word