[00:00] <_DGM_> Chiggins: i cant say for sure.. its either eth0 or your wireless.. they both seem to have an ip looking at your ifconfig
[00:00] <tripelb-irssi> thune I am so happy you are talking to me. (I believe in this thing I call bbs-telepathy (showing my age, but it's not an overtheweb thing it's a chat thing) and I get smarter wehn I'm talking to someone smart.
[00:00] <dansan> anybody?  user-level screen resolution setting (Gnome, not kubuntu)?
[00:00] <Chiggins> _DGM_ I didn't know I had a wireless, INSIDE my desktop
[00:00] <_DGM_> Chiggins: apparently you do.. theres a wlan interface so.. but what i dont get.. is your wireless unprotected or something?
[00:00] <tripelb-irssi> thune3 I am so happy you are talking to me. (I believe in this thing I call bbs-telepathy (showing my age, but it's not an overtheweb thing it's a chat thing) and I get smarter wehn I'm talking to someone smart. -- I'll try the install now. (after I copy your advice to my save file on the flashdrive)
[00:00] <headkase314> zopiac, so you can boot into a GNOME graphical environment? I was assuming you were stuck on a command line.  If so, when you log out what session manager appears?  Can you choose icewm from there?
[00:01] <pwp> Interesting note, I just added a wireless to my desktop this weekend...
[00:01] <Chiggins> _DHM_ The wireless in my house? No it has a password on it
[00:01] <zopiac> headkase314: when i log out it brings me back to CLI
[00:01] <headkase314> zopiac, but you do have a graphical gnome desktop?
[00:01] <zopiac> yes
[00:01] <chemical_death> zopiac: did you see my pm?
[00:01] <pwp> adferw23
[00:01] <zopiac> chemical_death: yes i did
[00:02] <_DGM_> Chiggins: hmm weird. well i really dont know.. i wonder if it picked up wlan0 wrongly or something for some reason then. Either way.. it seems to work :P if you can access anything else on your own network its probably the wired eth0.
[00:02] <arrrghhh> so i've mounted an nfs share as /tmp, but i can't umount it now.  says device is busy, even with -f.  how can i unmount this nfs share?
[00:02] <pwp> Sorry, cat... I guess the keyboard lessons I got it didn't work.
[00:02] <Chiggins> _DGM_ Well I can access my router and such, so I guess I'm good, hah
[00:02] <headkase314> zopiac, if you have the desktop then shouldn't there be *some* session manager running, even if it is not GDM?
[00:02] <_DGM_> Chiggins: must be wired then.. theres no way it can magicly connect to a secured wireless network :P
[00:03] <zopiac> headkase314: idk, really. I would assume that it does not /need/ it
[00:03] <dansan> why does one login account (gnome-based) have a different screen resolution setting than login screen & another account? (how do I change it?)
[00:03] <zopiac> headkase314: brb
[00:03] <Chiggins> _DGM_ Thats what I'm thinking. So if this does happen again at next boot, do I just manually ifconfig eth# up ?
[00:03] <headkase314> zopiac, I'm not sure either but I was always under the assumption that the session manager bootstrapped the desktop.... idk!
[00:04] <_DGM_> Chiggins: it seems the sudo dhclient did the trick, but you might need to ifconfig eth0 up before that
[00:05] <_DGM_> Chiggins: it *should* remember that its up though
[00:05] <Chiggins> _DGM_ Alright I'll make note of that, thanks so much again!
[00:05] <_DGM_> np
[00:05] <pwp> Hello, I am having a problem such that my X Window will periodically crash at random intervals... I have a Xorg.0.log if anyone wants to look as well as a listing of the output of lshw -c display. From the log, it would appear to have something to do with AIGLX, as it consistently shows up like that right before it crashes. Thank you. X log: http://pastebin.com/iFNS6KT8 lshw:http://pastebin.com/CafiMuqN	
[00:07] <pwp> Hello, I am having a problem such that my X Window will periodically crash at random intervals... I have a Xorg.0.log if anyone wants to look as well as a listing of the output of lshw -c display. From the log, it would appear to have something to do with AIGLX, as it consistently shows up like that right before it crashes. Thank you. X log: http://pastebin.com/iFNS6KT8 lshw:http://pastebin.com/CafiMuqN	
[00:07] <_DGM_> yea you mentioned that :P
[00:07] <headkase314> pwp, If you have compiz enabled install the "Compiz Settings Manager" and in that (under System > Preferences) go to the "Workarounds" section and there is a fix specifically for AIGLX.  Don't know if it will resolve your situation however.
[00:07] <Kyle__> How do you reconfigure the network from the command line?  dpkg-reconfigure networking doesn't do it.
[00:07] <tripelb-irssi> gparted still quits on me.
[00:07] <piercedwater> ikonia: that link only made my hdd read-only for ubuntu :(
[00:07] <lap_dragon> does anybody use ubuntu with tinychat?
[00:08] <lap_dragon> Anybody at all?
[00:08] <_DGM_> Kyle__: what is it you want to configure?
[00:08] <Kyle__> _DGM_: I want to reconfigure the hostname/ipaddress/etc.
[00:08]  * lap_dragon got the camera to work, but not the microphone 
[00:08]  * lap_dragon also didnt get his sound to work
[00:08] <_DGM_> Kyle__: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[00:09] <_joey> why so many people prefer ubuntu to debian?
[00:09] <_joey> what is the catch?:)
[00:09] <_DGM_> _joey: a little bit more time spend into user friendlyness
[00:09] <Kyle__> How do you re-launch the network-setup-script that's shown in the setup?
[00:10] <_joey> gnome is pretty much universal env
[00:10] <headkase314> _joey, Debian is much more stable because it uses more tested packages but is updated less frequently than Ubuntu because of that stability testing.  Also Ubuntu is much easier for a newbie to install.
[00:10] <arrrghhh> _joey, ubuntu is just more popular... it's supported by a company and pushed heavily for general use.
[00:10] <_DGM_> _joey: for a while ubuntu was one of the first that made stuff work out of the box, before debian did. I dont know if debian caught up by now
[00:10] <qwd> If I have a partition with Windows 7, can I do full disk encryption for the rest of the disk during Linux installation or do I need to use the entire disk for that?
[00:10] <logos_> Is there a recompiled version of Counter Strike for linux? I mean, without running wine or cedega.
[00:10] <_DGM_> logos_: i doubt. But cs runs fine on wine
[00:11] <_DGM_> logos_: i'd be surprised if you notice any difference in speed
[00:11] <logos_> _DGM_ i know, just for knowledge
[00:11] <rebirth> it seems like the linux OS could be much more advanced and stable if there weren't so many different distributions, but maybe i'm totally wrong
[00:11] <arrrghhh> qwd, you may want to look at truecrypt if you want encryption for the entire drive.
[00:11] <logos_> _DGM_ i heard someone talking about that.
[00:11] <headkase314> logos_, no but there are rumors of a Steam client for Linux in the works.  It would seem to me that CS:S would be a no-brainer to port if that ever happens.
[00:11] <_DGM_> logos_: ID games seems to be one of the few that make patches like that.. like for doom 3. But i dont think valve does
[00:11] <arrrghhh> rebirth, how so?  they all use the linux kernel.
[00:11] <pwp> headkase, I din't think that I have compiz enabled because it won't let enable anything but no graphic effects... Odd considering that it hardy let me do whatever effect I wanted.
[00:12] <rebirth> arrrghhh: just because the same work gets done over and over
[00:12] <piercedwater> Does anyone know why my hfsplus mounted hdd is read-only? I made sure the volume was not journaled
[00:12] <headkase314> pwp, if compiz is not enabled then likely that setting wouldn't be the issue..
[00:12] <arrrghhh> rebirth, eh, anybody can make a distribution.  hence the reason for there being hundreds.  you can tailor-make a distro to your liking if you really wanted to.
[00:12] <_joey> _DGM_ don't know about install. Debian is completely automated. http://www.instalinux.com/cgi-bin/coe_bootimage.cgi You enter all your usual configs and it will build a small iso for you (10Mb); you put it you system and it'll install everything you need with little interaction
[00:12] <qwd> arrrghhh: Truecrypt doesn't have a free license so I'm not really interested in it. (and yes I'm aware that windows isn't free either :)
[00:13] <arrrghhh> qwd, i don't see the problem, but whatever.
[00:13] <DIL> truecrypt not free????
[00:13] <_DGM_> _joey: i'm talking about desktop use. I used both debian and ubuntu around the same time, simply because i was trying out distributions. On ubuntu, all my hardware (especially 3d acceleration) just worked out of the box only on ubuntu. I have used ubuntu since. I don't know how debian is now though.. they might be the exact same by now... it was 3 years ago
[00:13] <sponzor> should be /boot seperate from / /home /var.. on its own partition?
[00:14] <arrrghhh> qwd, the source is available, i don't knwow hat else you want.
[00:14] <arrrghhh> *know what
[00:14] <qwd> DIL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Truecrypt#Licensing
[00:14] <headkase314> DIL, I've read about Truecrypt being open in code but not Free compatible with their particular licenses.
[00:14] <ndevastator> sponzor, "should be" is all a matter of preference... but it does make things easier
[00:15] <arrrghhh> qwd, so some floss guys say it's not truly open source.  but the code is available, and the product is free in the sense that you don't have to pay money.  you're not going to find a better encryption product for the price.
[00:15] <arrrghhh> qwd, look at pointsec and complain about licensing there :D
[00:16] <headkase314> arrrghhh, there is free as in beer and Free as in speech.  Truecrypt is not Free.
[00:16] <qwd> arrrghhh: Why use truecrypt when I can use dm-crypt which is actually a part of Linux distributions?
[00:16] <arrrghhh> headkase314, agreed.
[00:16] <arrrghhh> qwd, does that work with windows?  you said you also use windows.
[00:16] <_joey> for ubuntu would be the choice since it uses new versions of sfotware
[00:16] <_joey> as for installer
[00:16] <_joey> I don't see much difference
[00:17] <qwd> arrrghhh: I don't care about encrypting Windows. I was asking if I could do full disk encryption for the Linux partition while having a Windows partition.
[00:17] <qwd> (...or if I need to use the entire disk)
[00:17] <sponzor> hmm ok
[00:17] <arrrghhh> qwd, oh, i misunderstood.  you should be able to encrypt just the linux partition with dm-crypt.  i thought you were wanting to encrypt the entire disk.
[00:17] <gio_gt> hello everybody, I am using weechat version 3.0, because it's the one in the Ubuntu repos, but version 3.3 is already out (3 versions later). Is there a way to notice the package mantainer about this, please?
[00:18] <muellisoft> gio_gt: they should already know. But feel free to package a new version :-) Should be easy.
[00:18] <arrrghhh> gio_gt, ubuntu is usually a few versions behind so they can test it.  if you want the newest, you'll have to find your own repo or grab debs.
[00:18] <_DGM_> gio_gt: they probably already know, but have a reason not to update just yet, perhaps because of a needed library or some other issue.
[00:18] <piercedwater> Does anyone know why Ubuntu won't write to a hfsplus drive that isnt journaled?
[00:19] <qwd> arrrghhh: thanks! hope you're right :)
[00:19] <gio_gt> muellisoft, arrrghhh and _DGM_ : ok, thanks for the answer, I understand the problem
[00:19] <iflema> gio_gt except for major security fixes the version will not change in a particular release cycle (version) of ubuntu. PPA's are available with the latest versions of applications but are not recommended and can void your upgrade path......
[00:19] <Wiesshund> gio_gt newest versions of things arent auto added to the repositories, they have to be submitted and then tested or something along those lines
[00:20] <Oer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[00:20] <_joey> what's easiest way to run x applications on ms windows from remote X-org server?
[00:20] <_DGM_> gio_gt: you could always grab the version from their website and install it that way. But doing so is without support and at your own risk
[00:20] <dansan> _joey: maybe cygwin, not sure
[00:21] <dansan> _joey: my last expiernce wasn't what I would call "easy" though :)
[00:21] <Laggg|newb> how do i repo sync and get my whole system up to date???
[00:21] <_joey> there should be a client for ms windows
[00:21] <_DGM_> i dont think cygwin can run x stuff? as far as i know theres no *free* client for windows
[00:21] <gio_gt> _DGM_: yes, I am a quite experienced linux user, I know that... I just should learn making packages, I never did it, but it could be interesting to learn
[00:21] <dansan> _joey: you got it backwards, you want to run the xserver on windows and the xclient is the actual app that runs on the linux/unix machine elsewhere
[00:21] <headkase314> gio_gt, as soon as you start adding ppa's to your system the chances something will go wrong on the next distribution update (dist-upgrade, not regular updates) really increases.  If you reinstall clean with each distribution (I do since it seems to make everything just work) then adding ppa's is not really an issue - add away!
[00:22] <_DGM_> gio_gt: whats keeping you from just grabbing that version then? :)
[00:22] <dansan> _joey: xwindows is a little backwards like that... afk though
[00:22] <Wiesshund> _joey xwin_32 but its not free
[00:22] <_joey> oh well
[00:22] <_joey> dansan precisely
[00:22] <_joey> Wiesshund sthanks
[00:22] <Wiesshund> _joey it isnt freeware though, not sure how their demo works
[00:23] <anmol284> Guys I have installed Ubunt Desktop and would like to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, how can I do so ?
[00:23] <_DGM_> headkase314: i just build source in my home dir and not install, but just run it from there. That way it never interfears with anything.. works 99% of the time unless you change something major
[00:23] <gio_gt> _DGM_: I just wanted to understand if there was a reason because the package was not updated, and now you told me... probably there is another reason: weechat is not an application for "everyone", so maybe it is not updated regulary as, for example, Firefox
[00:23] <_joey> Wiesshund I remember using it it was good
[00:23] <gio_gt> headkase314: what does ppa mean, please?
[00:23] <_joey> few years ago:)
[00:23] <jlc> Opera has locked up on my machine, how do Ib kill it?
[00:24] <_joey> That's whaty I was looking for
[00:24] <_DGM_> gio_gt: that might be a reason to. The ogre3d package from ubuntu is waaaaaay outdated.. i think they dont have a proper maintainer for it or something
[00:24] <Kull> jlc: killall opera
[00:24] <anmol284> @jlc killall -9 opera (in terminal)
[00:24] <headkase314> gio_gt, Personal Package Archive, updates for programs before the next Ubuntu release
[00:24] <Kull> jlc: or pkill opera
[00:24] <Wiesshund> _joey you can try xmanager, eXceed, or weirdX but i have no personal knowledge about them other than what they are
[00:24] <headkase314> gio_gt, you can search for what you are looking for here -> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[00:25] <gio_gt> headkase314: oh, I see! I am like you, I always reinstall clean, so thanks for your advice
[00:25] <anmol284> Guys, how can I install UNR in Desktop ?
[00:25] <Kull> Clean install > not clean install
[00:25] <jlc> worked like a champ, thanks annol284 & Kull
[00:25] <headkase314> gio_gt, and how to use them here -> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[00:26] <iflema> anmol284 install the ubuntu-netbook package should get you there
[00:26] <headkase314> gio_gt, if you always reinstall clean then adding any ppa is not really an issue.  It's only on that day if you dist-upgrade only that they come back to bite you!
[00:27] <anmol284> @iflema dont have ubuntu-netbook package, I am missing some repository.
[00:27] <bastones> Hi all. I have a Broadcom BCM4211 WiFi card and I originally used the proprietary Broadcom driver but I had connection issues and me thinking its down to the proprietary driver and I tried the free version but no option for WiFi was provided...so I decided to see if NDISwrapper was an option, and I added the blacklist to the blacklist.conf file, and I couldn't find any Windows driver for WiFi card I use, so I decided to remov
[00:27] <bastones> ed the blacklists in the .conf file using gedit. I restarted the computer, and when back into Hardware Devices and I can only see the free wifi version to install and the proprietary nvidia graphics driver...no other wifi option I had before? (and by the way I have a wired ethernet connection temporarily)
[00:27] <headkase314> gio_gt, also look at ppa purge if you need to get rid of a ppa -> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/ppa-purge-now-available-via-getdeb.html
[00:27] <gio_gt> headkase314: I see :) well, I can just enable the ppa to install weechat and be a little bit careful on the dependencies, then I can disable ppa again
[00:28] <headkase314> gio_gt, once enabled you should keep the ppa enabled so you get further updates!
[00:28] <Wiesshund> gio_gt does 3.3 add anything new worth bothering?
[00:28] <ChosenOne> hi folks - are there any good tutorials you know about creating ad-hoc wifis with ubuntu (networkmanager-solutions prefered)
[00:29] <gio_gt> Wiesshund: well, on weechat website says that there is an important fix in 3.1.1
[00:29] <iflema> anmol284 install the ubuntu-netbook-remix package sorry
[00:29] <drew_> Hello. Wanted to ask if I made a Linux distro, how much source would I have to include?
[00:29] <anmol284> @iflema dont have ubuntu-netbook-remix either.
[00:29] <drew_> Out of curiousity, of course. :)
[00:29] <^cheeky> hi, if i want to install windows 7 and ubuntu 10.4, iam about to installed windows .. on a 1 tb hdd but how do i partition it , install windows 7 completely on the hdd and then gpart it and make room for ubuntu ?
[00:29] <gio_gt> Wiesshund: and then I see a lot of bugfixes on later versions, too
[00:29] <Daekdroom> !ot | drew_
[00:29] <_DGM_> drew_: what?
[00:30] <gio_gt> Wiesshund: do you use weechat, too?
[00:30] <janicko> need help with D 050d:935a Belkin Components
[00:30] <drew_> Sorry. I just saw xchat in the menu. Signing off, then. :)
[00:30] <Vooloo> how do I resize images with f-spot.. I can't find it. And there is a tutorial on the net to install an extension but that option is nowhere to be found in my version
[00:30] <_DGM_> lolz...
[00:31] <headkase314> gio_gt, here is a ppa with weechat -> https://launchpad.net/~hggdh2/+archive/ppa <- it also comes with "coreutils" I'm not sure what that does.  Basically at a console type "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hggdh2/ppa" then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade" and if you have the weechat installed from the standard repo that should update it to the latest version.
[00:31] <Wiesshund> ^cheeky well personaly i would make the windows partition, leaving how much cpace youd like for ubuntu open
[00:31] <piercedwater> Does Ubuntu permit write access fro HFS+ drives?
[00:32] <iflema> anmol284 System / Administration / Software sources ubuntu-netbook-remix in in universe http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[00:32] <Wiesshund> gio_gt no, actualy i use mirc
[00:32] <gio_gt> headkase314: thanks a lot
[00:32] <rebirth> can someone link me to a good beginner's guide to the command line
[00:32] <gio_gt> Wiesshund: mirc? with wine?
[00:32] <Wiesshund> gio_gt yes
[00:33] <headkase314> gio_gt, you're welcome and make sure to read about ppa-purge too, sometimes you need to get rid of a ppa that interferes with things and ppa-purge is what you use for that.
[00:33] <Vooloo> is ubuntu using some kindof lightweight f-spot or something....
[00:33] <gio_gt> headkase314: already bookmarked all the links you gave me :)
[00:33] <^cheeky> Wiesshund: so allocate like .. 100 gigs .. i only want windows .. /SC2:)
[00:34] <headkase314> gio_gt, you can get ppa-purge from -> http://www.getdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/10.04/ but getdeb also upgrades lots of other things with it.
[00:34] <anmol284> @iflema are you implying that I should enable universe ? It is already enabled.
[00:34] <iflema> anmol284 that components link is redirecting to another page i notice sorry.....
[00:34] <headkase314> gio_gt, excellent, it would be good advice to read all about it before trying it ;)
[00:34] <gio_gt> headkase314: yes, I will do it... meanwhile I can live with 3.0
[00:35] <Wiesshund> ^cheeky well the amount of space is up to you, i cant answer your space needs of course
[00:35] <headkase314> gio_gt, right on then - so you're good now? ;)
[00:35] <Wiesshund> ^cheeky but yes as an example, you could install windows and have it make a 100gb partition
[00:35] <gio_gt> headkase314: yes! you were very helpful, thanks a lot
[00:35] <iflema> anmol284 if you are using ubuntu yes.... what version are you currently on?
[00:36] <headkase314> gio_gt, you're welcome!  Glad I could help!  Cya later!
[00:36] <^cheeky> Wiesshund: and the use Gparted to install ubuntu later ..
[00:36] <anmol284> @iflema lucid
[00:36] <Wiesshund> ^cheeky yes, the rest of the drive will be empty, so you can make the linux partitions during its install with out having to resize and wait etc
[00:36] <TrentonAdams> Hi guys.  I'm doing software raid for my boot and root partitions, and my root partition is LVM.  I'm doing this after installation on 10.04.  Do I have to setup anything in /etc/initramfs-tools/ to get it to boot properly?
[00:37] <^cheeky> Wiesshund: thank you :)
[00:37] <TrentonAdams> I can't seem to get it to boot, it always drops to shell, and I have to assemble my raid devices manually, and exit the shell, to boot normally.
[00:37] <zopiac> how do i boot into IceWM from CLI?
[00:39] <lov255> Okay I am beyond frustrated now I still have no internet connection at all and now Network manager is gone
[00:39] <lov255> please elp
[00:39] <TrentonAdams> lov255: what's happening exactly?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> zopiac:  you could make a .xinintrc file the has the lines to start icewm, then use 'startx'  to start up X.
[00:40] <anmol284> @@iflema Thanks dude, I manually edited sources.list to enable universe and finally have found what i was looking for. Seems I still cant trust GUI.
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> zopiac:  example for .xinitrc (2 lines) --> xterm &     exec icewm
[00:40] <iflema> anmol284 thats the spirit
[00:40] <lov255> TrentonAdams: There is no NetworkManager icon - I can not access the internet with Ubuntu 10.04, it worked perfect last night
[00:40] <TrentonAdams> lov255: Have you rebooted?
[00:41] <lov255> TrentonAdams: I did a bit of reading and add the ath0 line to some file I forgot....yes I have rebooted a ton of times
[00:41] <ubuntu__> quit
[00:42] <stratagem> what's up with latest nvidia driver. totally screwed me.
[00:42] <stratagem> anyway to revert to 256?
[00:42] <sully> Does anybody know what packages are currently required in order to compile 32 bit executables in 64-bit ubuntu (using -m32)?
[00:42] <sully> This changes constantly.
[00:43] <lov255> Any suggestions?
[00:43] <TrentonAdams> lov255: I'm new to ubuntu myself, so I'm trying to find out how the network manager starts itself.
[00:43] <gio_gt> oh, speaking about network manager...
[00:44] <gio_gt> is there a way to disable network manager, please?
[00:44] <lov255> and how do you enable it?
[00:44] <Oer> lov255 did you edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[00:44] <joey_> what's cool lean windows manager?
[00:44] <lov255> oer: yes that is what I edited
[00:44] <lov255> oer: it only had an lo line
[00:45] <TrentonAdams> lov255: mine only has lo, and iface lo inet loopback
[00:45] <TrentonAdams> lov255: And my stuff works perfectly.
[00:45] <stratagem> xfce?
[00:45] <lov255> Hhhhmmm
[00:45] <gio_gt> I have a desktop computer, always connected to the same router with an ethernet cable, therefore I don't need network manager. And moreover, it is very difficult with KDE to set-up a system connection for the network manager, I would prefer that network will just come up as soon as possible during boot
[00:45] <joey_> and what was the text based utility to configure the services?
[00:45] <joey_> thanks!
[00:46] <gio_gt> will editing /etc/network/interfaces and stop network manager service be sufficient, please?
[00:46] <TrentonAdams> lov255: Yeah, I guess I'm not much help.  I don't know the internals of ubuntu yet.
[00:46] <TrentonAdams> lov255: I'm used to gentoo linux
[00:47] <lov255> thanks TrentonAdams
[00:47] <joey_> peeps
[00:47] <mleger> hello, I was wondering if anyone is familiar with gcalcli and if not, does anyone know where I can speak to people that are familiar with this program? Thanks!!
[00:47] <lov255> anyone else can help?
[00:47]  * joey_ is expecting some answers :)
[00:47] <TrentonAdams> lov255: What does "service network-manager status" from a command line shell tell you?
[00:47] <chemical_death> gio_gt: deinstall network-manager and editing /etc/network/interfaces should work ig uess
[00:47] <jefinc> lov255: repeat the question :)
[00:48] <lov255> jefinc:There is no NetworkManager icon - I can not access the internet with Ubuntu 10.04, it worked perfect last night
[00:48] <joey_> ps auxw
[00:48] <joey_> oops
[00:48] <joey_> :)
[00:48] <XunZi> !effects
[00:49] <mleger> Does anyone know of a way to see how a text is delimited? Specifically I am looking for the output of gcalcli agenda and how it's delimited so I can parse it using sed. Thanks in advance!!
[00:49] <lov255> Jefinc:I hae tried a few things - added auto eth0 to interfaces
[00:49] <gio_gt> chemical_death: ok, thanks, I will try that... I think I will try first to just disable the service on startup
[00:49] <lov255> jefinc: and eth0 inet dhcp
[00:50] <lolla> the computer freeze randomly specially when the net disconnected cannot use the mouse or the keyboard and i when turn off the router everything goes well- linux mint
[00:51] <bichonfrise74> question: what happens if I go to a website that contains a spyware? will my ubuntu machine get infected by it?
[00:53] <lov255> AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW I FIXED IT!!!!!
[00:53] <lov255> I need ath0 not eth0
[00:53] <Oer> :-)
[00:53] <lov255> Wow I am Smart!
[00:54] <Oer> you are ubuntu !
[00:55] <kthomas> php.ini is where
[00:55] <bichonfrise74> uestion: what happens if I go to a website that contains a spyware? will my ubuntu machine get infected by it?
[00:56] <Oer> kthomas terminal: locate php.ini
[00:56] <kthomas> :)
[00:56] <kthomas> /etc/php5/apache2
[00:56] <Oer> etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[00:56] <MilitantPotato> In firestarter, how do I allow a range of IP's, like 192.168.0.10 through 192.168.0.20?
[00:56] <kthomas> tiks Oer
[00:57] <kthomas> *thanks too
[00:59] <MilitantPotato> bichonfrise74: Most likely not.  There are very few viruses targeted at ubuntu and linux in general in the wild.
[01:00] <Wiesshund> bichonfrise74 if you let the site install something you could compromise your user account, you cant "infect" the operating system itself though
[01:00] <MilitantPotato> bichonfrise74: 3rd party apps like flash, java, etc. are a different story, but they likely won't get control of your computer.
[01:00] <Oer> MilitantPotato, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firestarter https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[01:02] <MilitantPotato> ty oer
[01:03] <DIL> .'
[01:03] <cba123> I'm getting random lockups, where would I find a logfile that could help me figure out why?
[01:06] <Wiesshund> cba123 http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-log-files-location-and-how-do-i-view-logs-files/
[01:07] <Acido-> #redditdowntime
[01:07] <Acido-> can anyone get into that chan...?
[01:10] <Izinucs> did I come in durning a netsplit?
[01:10] <Renfield> I upgraded a computer to 10.4 LTS and E16 stopped working.
[01:10] <Wiesshund> Acido i can yes
[01:11] <Renfield> Now, when I try to move windows, resize windows, close windows, or iconify windows, nothing happens.
[01:11] <car|0s> can someone help? i need a GUI to chooser between 3g and edge network for a 3g modem
[01:11] <Renfield> I can open up the desktop menu, but I can not manipulate any windows. How do I fix this?
[01:11] <sully> gcc-4.4-multilib wound up being what I needed
[01:11] <sully> thanks for the help, everybody. :P
[01:12] <Wiesshund> Renfield system admin hardware, make sure your video driver is enabled
[01:12] <cba123> Wiesshund, Is there a way I can get it to show me the last things that happened before my last reboot (I had to Ctrl+Alt+R+E+I+S+U+B)?
[01:12] <Renfield> I tried apt-get --reinstall install e16, but that didn't help.
[01:12] <car|0s> can someone help? i need a GUI to chooser between 3g and edge network for a 3g modem. Its ZTE MF636
[01:12] <Wiesshund> cba123 there may be, but im not sure exactly which log to start viewing
[01:13] <Renfield> Wiesshund: I'm sorry, how does the video driver affect my ability to manipulate windows? All graphics display correctly.
[01:14] <Wiesshund> Renfield im not sure exactly what the reason is, but ive had same thing happen when i updated soemthing and it needed to default the video driver as inactive, and i had previously had desktop effects enabled on high.
[01:15] <Renfield> Oh, ok. Well I'm not using a desktop that uses openGL or anything.
[01:16] <Wiesshund> Renfield hurts nothing to check it. Your using 10.04 yes? it uses compiz
[01:16] <Renfield> I'm not using compiz. I'm using Enlightenment 16.
[01:16] <Renfield> I suspect something didn't upgrade properly as it said that the upgrade was not error free.
[01:17] <delinquentme> hey so whats the ubuntu package that handles RAID
[01:17] <Wiesshund> Renfield ah. is gnome hosed as well? or only e16?
[01:17] <delinquentme> specifically hardware raid :D
[01:17] <rsyring> Does ubuntu have anything akin to a slackpackage?  e.g. I want to build the latest version of etckeeper, but I want to do it the same way it would be done on the ubuntu system.
[01:17] <Renfield> Wiesshund: I'll have to check as I don't use gnome.
[01:18] <car|0s> can someone help? i need a GUI to choose between 3g and edge network for a 3g modem. Its ZTE MF636. I know it can be done with minicom... but, is there a simpler way?
[01:18] <rsyring> I guess, I am looking for a buildscript.
[01:18] <Izinucs> !repeat | car|0s
[01:18] <car|0s> sorry =(
[01:19] <Wiesshund> Renfield just to rule it out, might check if gnome works as intended. I cant tell you anything e16 specific unfortunately, i havent used enlightenment in eons
[01:19] <eztop> no one will answer you because that's the way
[01:20] <eztop> 1382 ppl and no answer
[01:20] <Wiesshund> ezrafree perhaps we do not know the answer
[01:20] <jim__> Hello all
[01:21] <eztop> ubuntu -> official linux distro wannabe and replace DE with only gnome
[01:21] <mdsnl> eztop whats up?
[01:21] <headkase314> eztop, for a guaranteed answer Canonical does offer paid support!  Here is free and the knowledge of the moment flows with those who happen to be here ;)
[01:21] <eztop> I asked about lxde and lubuntu here many times and always ignored
[01:22] <mdsnl> what is your question?
[01:22] <Wiesshund> eztop if you wish to pay anyone here, who does not even work for canonical, and surely doesnt get paid......
[01:22] <eztop> headkase314: Thanks for answering
[01:22] <eztop> mdsnl:  why no resources or support for that distro or DE?
[01:23] <Wiesshund> ezrafree Ubuntu is not Kunbuntu or Lubuntu etc, they have thier own channels specific to them
[01:23] <headkase314> eztop, keep trying - sometime someone with the knowledge will be here.  Also post at ubuntuforums.org!
[01:23] <eztop> it's very buggy
[01:23] <joey_> easiest way to configure samba on linux in console to share fs
[01:23] <eztop> I'm not talking about you guys but ubuntu devs
[01:24] <mdsnl> ouch, you'd prolly be better with linux mint huh?
[01:24] <eztop> Wiesshund:  yes, but those channels are empty or no one talking
[01:24] <rsyring> joey_: for a current system or a new one?
[01:24] <eztop> mdsnl:  yes, I might try it or peppermint
[01:24] <delinquentme> RAID software for ubuntu ??/ anyone??
[01:24] <Sinistrad> !raid
[01:25] <Renfield> Wiesshund: I tried e16-GNOME, GNOME, and Failsafe GNOME. All of the started up with E16, but with Gnome bars on the top and bottom. All have the same window problem. I looked at system->administration->hardware drivers and it said no proprietary drivers are install in this system.
[01:25] <eztop> I made two bug reports ...only one person replied in each
[01:25] <joey_> rsyring what do you mean current or new one? there is freshly installed system and samba; I need to configure it in console
[01:25] <Wiesshund> eztop like was mentioned, these irc channels are just normal people hanging out and offering help when they can, there is paid support given by canonical where you get a guaranteed answer.
[01:25] <joey_> is there a script or a tool?
[01:25] <joey_> :)
[01:25] <rsyring> joey_: the reason I asked is because if that is your soul goal, then you might want to look at TurnKey linux
[01:26] <eztop> Wiesshund:  yes, but you know the rep is poor for bug work in ubuntu
[01:26] <mdsnl> [the community] puts alot of work into ubuntu, but the lubuntu-ubuntu-lite-xubuntu-fluxbuntu have a small community compared
[01:26] <rsyring> they have an appliance with SAMBA already setup for file sharing
[01:26] <Wiesshund> Renfield ok, you need to enable your vid drivers
[01:26] <rsyring> joey_: by appliance, I mean configured ubuntu image
[01:26] <Renfield> Wiesshund: Oh, how do I do that?
[01:26] <joey_> i am asking how configure samba
[01:26] <eztop> mdsnl: I agree w/ you
[01:27] <Wiesshund> Renfield same panel where you see it say no drivers are currently enabled on the system
[01:27] <joey_> smb.conf
[01:27] <joey_> file :)
[01:27] <joey_> there should be a front end application or a script
[01:27] <eztop> I have a question... if I d/l and try 10.10 Alpha 3, is the latest?
[01:27] <Patches> hey guys
[01:27] <headkase314> joey_, see -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[01:28] <Wiesshund> Renfield you should also be able to enable a driver. what video hardware do you have?
[01:28] <joey_> headkase314: thanks
[01:28] <eztop> I need to test two things
[01:28] <Patches> can anyone tell me how to set up an internal bluetooth device in slax
[01:28] <headkase314> joey_, np post back if anything there is unclear ;)
[01:28] <brad8171> hello
[01:28] <eztop> I was asked to test for a bug and the other thing I want to try is check certain package versions
[01:28] <Renfield> Wiesshund: It said no drivers in use in the system. There is nothing in the list, and only to buttons, help and close.
[01:28] <Renfield> two
[01:29] <Wiesshund> Renfield what video hardware do you have?
[01:29] <Patches> anyone know?
[01:30] <Renfield> Wiesshund: Intel 82945G
[01:30] <eztop> anyone know?
[01:30] <lov255> Know what?
[01:30] <Wiesshund> Renfield did you say you upgraded from 9.X to 10.04 ?
[01:30] <Patches> how to install a blluetooth device thats internal
[01:30] <eztop> state of ubuntu 10.10?
[01:31] <Renfield> Wiesshund: I'm not sure what I was running before.
[01:31] <lov255> eztop:I am not using it
[01:31] <Renfield> Wiesshund: But in the upgrade-manager, I selected 10.4 LTS.
[01:31] <Wiesshund> Renfield but it was a version upgrade as opposed to just updates?
[01:31] <brad8171> i just had a question what is a proprietary driver
[01:31] <eztop> My install of ubuntu is 10.04 w/ kernel 2.6.32-15?
[01:31] <Renfield> Wiesshund: It was both. First I did updates, then I did an upgrade, then I did more updates.
[01:32] <lov255> eztop I have 10.04
[01:32] <headkase314> eztop, to check package versions start up synaptic (if you have gnome installed) under System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager.  Then search for the package in question and you will see whether it is installed and the version.
[01:32] <eztop> lov255:  oh, this is just for my info... I was curious
[01:32] <Patches> hhmmm i guess noone can oh well
[01:32] <Wiesshund> Renfield i know the i8XX's were blacklisted in kms, im not sure how that will affect you driverwise. i got something you can try as a work around though
[01:32] <eztop> headkase314:  well,  I was wondering what versions 10.10 is at... I guess I have to d/l and run live cd to check, huh? :)
[01:32] <headkase314> eztop, Ubuntu 10.10 is in Alpha 3 right now I'm pretty sure.  That means it is strictly for testing - there will be issues with it, will be!
[01:33] <Renfield> Wiesshund: Ok, I'll try anything.
[01:33] <Wiesshund> Renfield see what happens if you go to system > prefs > appearance and turn desktop effects to off?
[01:33] <Wiesshund> Renfield that worked for me until i got a driver installed
[01:33] <eztop> headkase314:  okay... well, do you know if 10.04 packages are up to date to partition 4kb disk drives?
[01:33] <headkase314> eztop, give a second
[01:33] <thune3> eztop: you might look into ubuntu testdrive. it can put latest daily build into a vm for testing
[01:34] <eztop> if I partition a drive ntfs, is it the same as windows' ntfs?
[01:34] <eztop> ubuntu test drive?
[01:34] <eztop> not familiar
[01:35] <Renfield> Wiesshund: Visual Effects are already set to none. I tried to set it to normal, but it said that it could not set them.
[01:35] <eztop> I will install 10.04 on my desktop soon... right now, adding components
[01:35] <Wiesshund> partition and fs are not the same thing exactly, but windows should recognize the partition id tag.
[01:35] <hiexpo> eztop,  ntfs is ntfs
[01:35] <Wiesshund> Renfield lemme look up something a sec
[01:35] <thune3> eztop: https://launchpad.net/testdrive
[01:35] <eztop> Weisshund:  well, mostly for aligning
[01:36] <eztop> hiexpo:  thanks :)
[01:36] <control_> how do i enable my wireless?
[01:36] <Wiesshund> eztop if you make a partion tagged as ntfs, windows should have no trouble seeing it formatting etc
[01:36] <hiexpo> yup
[01:36] <headkase314> eztop, alignment seems to be the biggest issue with 4kb sector drives, it is talked about here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1456251
[01:36] <eztop> Weisshund:  that's what I figured... can it align it, though...is the Q
[01:36] <psilo2> I have two identical 32GB SSDs, but `fdisk -l` shows one as 32G and the other as 30.8G      What could be the explanation?
[01:37] <Izinucs> psilo2: one is formatted and the other is not?
[01:37] <control_> i am on a dell latitude d600, the wireless drivers are in i think, says broadcom, but how do i enable it or manageg wireless connections?
[01:37] <psilo2> Izinucs: neither is formatted
[01:37] <psilo2> Izinucs: I'm talking drives not partitions :\
[01:37] <eztop> control_:  I think broadcom needs the non-firmware installed?
[01:37] <eztop> right, guys?
[01:37] <eztop> well, it used to
[01:37] <control_> how do i do that?
[01:38] <Izinucs> psilo2: there's something on the drive probably left from the factory.. you could delete the partitions and recreate them and see what happens.
[01:38] <eztop> I had a broadcom wireless card in a thinkpad of mine for a while before I changed it to an Intel 2200bg
[01:38] <Wiesshund> Renfield in synaptic package manage, look for i8 in the search bar
[01:38] <hiexpo> psilo2,  sometimes drives are not actual size stated
[01:38] <Izinucs> that too
[01:38] <eztop> control_:  search synaptic for broadcom firmware
[01:38] <control_> its built in to the laptop, broadcom like 4300
[01:38] <eztop> correct me if I'm wrong, anyone... this is how it was before
[01:38] <psilo2> Izinucs: there are no partitions
[01:38] <hiexpo> 4312
[01:39] <thune3> psilo2, that they are identical make/manufacturer is weird. could you pastebin the fdisk -l output ?
[01:39] <eztop> i don't know if it's open source now but before it wasn't ....maybe still isn't
[01:39] <psilo2> I guess I could zero the whole thing and see what happens.
[01:39] <psilo2> thune3: sure just a sec
[01:39] <headkase314> control_, with a wired connection to the internet go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers.  Hopefully you will see your wireless there and can activate it.  You probably have to run System > Administration > Update Manager and check for updates at least once before you go to hardware drivers.
[01:39] <Izinucs> psilo2: no idea then.. partition/format and you'll probably end up with the same difference
[01:39] <eztop> control_: you in ubuntu now?
[01:39] <nwa> Halo need support Plz
[01:39] <control_> i have no devices in the hardware drivers
[01:39] <control_> im in ubuntu now
[01:39] <blahblah> j
[01:40] <eztop> control_:   i would try starting synaptic and search 'broadcom'
[01:40] <nwa> i need to install kde desktop inside ubuntu but i got err as soon i try
[01:40] <psilo2> thune3: Izinucs: http://pastie.org/1089511 [+]    Note that there is a partition at the moment, but the stated size was the same even before that partition existed.
[01:40] <nwa> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Futhermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[01:40] <control_> ok i installed everything that said broadcom
[01:40] <headkase314> control_, no devices, did you run Update Manager at least once and check for any updates?  If you haven't then do so, install everything offered, and after reboot check hardware drivers again?
[01:40] <psilo2> This is a major issue because I am attempting to clone a 32GB disk image onto this disk.  30.8G is just not going to cut it.
[01:40] <sm3gal> how i get ubuntu tweak?
[01:40] <control_> ok ill try that again
[01:41] <_DGM_> sm3gal: ubuntu tweak?
[01:41] <nwa> what do i need no understanding --Help
[01:41] <headkase314> control_, if there is a kernel update you'll have to reboot other than that probably not
[01:41] <ilovefairuz> control_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lshw | pastebinit -
[01:41] <sm3gal> its a program
[01:41] <sm3gal> i also need media codecs
[01:41] <control_> what does that do ilovefairuz?
[01:41] <Gerrin> can anyone aid me in setting up a JACK server
[01:41] <sm3gal> to play avi. mp4 mp3 etc...
[01:41] <_DGM_> sm3gal: download it from the website?
[01:42] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get install ubututweek
[01:42] <hiexpo> or syn manager ubuntu tweek
[01:42] <thune3> psilo2: i was hoping to see both of them
[01:42] <_DGM_> i dont see a package named ubuntutweek
[01:42] <ilovefairuz> control_: it will paste your hardware info so that we know what card do you have (and check for drivers)
[01:42] <headkase314> sm3gal, install VLC, "sudo apt-get install vlc"  It plays practically everything.
[01:42] <hiexpo> 1 sec
[01:42] <psilo2> thune3: okay, I'll connect the other, jst a sec.
[01:42] <sm3gal> i like totum
[01:42] <sm3gal> VLC laggs
[01:42] <ilovefairuz> Gerrin: what's your issue with it?
[01:42] <headkase314> _DGM_, http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[01:43] <eztop> control_:  you need 'b43-fwcutter' firmware installed...might be already but doesn't hurt to confirm
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> newest versions of VLC have hardware acceleration support.
[01:43] <_DGM_> headkase314: yea i found that. but theres no package named ubuntutweak
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> _DGM_:  go to the Ubuntu tweak homepage and download  tghe .deb
[01:43] <_DGM_> sm3gal: if vlc lags for you most other programs will probably lag to
[01:43] <sm3gal> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[01:43] <_DGM_> Dr_Willis: i know :P sm3gal is asking for it, not me
[01:43] <headkase314> _DGM_, package is: "ubuntu-tweak"
[01:43] <sm3gal> i found it
[01:43] <Renfield> Wiesshund: I reinstalled xserver-xorg-video-intel, and restarted E16-GNOME, but that didn't fix it.
[01:43] <cypher-neo> _DGM_, Ubuntu Tweak is not listed in the repository. You have to download it and use the GDebi Package Installer to load it.
[01:44] <_DGM_> not for meeeee! lolz
[01:44] <sm3gal> lol
[01:44] <cypher-neo> lol
[01:44] <Renfield> Wiesshund: The only other i8 packages were i810switch and i8ksomething. The second was for Dell laptops.
[01:44] <sm3gal> I usally ask my friend Flare183 but he is afk
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu-tweak program can add its own ppa/repos to the repo listing..
[01:44] <Gerrin> just trying to get it set up so i can use IDJC
[01:44] <psilo2> thune3: http://pastie.org/1089521 [+]
[01:44] <eztop> no one has tried to partition in ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 on new drives?
[01:44] <_DGM_> but like i said if vlc lags for you, chances are theres something more wrong.. or you just have slow hardware
[01:44] <Wiesshund> Renfield yea not alot listed there for sure. hmm
[01:44] <hiexpo> ubuntu-tweak yes it is
[01:44] <_DGM_> vlc is pretty fast :P its not the fastest but its fast
[01:45] <eztop> i like vlc
[01:45] <psilo2> thune3: as you can see, that one's happy :)   Also, I have another pair of disks, different brand, but they are also exactly 32017047552 bytes.
[01:45] <eztop> but i'm getting used to mplayer, too
[01:45] <Izinucs> psilo2: also that one looks to  be formatted..
[01:45] <headkase314> _DGM_, when you install the .deb file from http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ it automatically adds it's source to your sources.list file - I believe and if not you can add it using its own built-in sources editor.
[01:45] <_DGM_> i like the test version gpu decoder in vlc, it makes my laptop play full hd easy
[01:46] <psilo2> Izinucs: at the moment yes but I guarantee the reported sizes were the same beforehand.
[01:46] <_DGM_> headkase314: thanks for helping but for the 4th time its not for me, its for sm3gal. I was merely stating to him/her that there is no such package and that (s)he should just download it form the site
[01:47] <chazz> hi, `modprobe ipv6` on the default ubuntu (x86_64) kernel gives out "FATAL: Module ipv6 not found.", so how do I enable the ipv6 module?
[01:47] <control_> http://pastebin.com/WxVhDCMd
[01:47] <eztop> Dr_Willis:  but, how well does it work?   does it work with ATI cards? lol
[01:47] <headkase314> _DGM_, okay, sm3gal -> redirect my comments to you! ;)
[01:47] <_DGM_> :P
[01:47] <psilo2> thune3: is there any point in zeroing the entire device?
[01:47] <control_> http://pastebin.com/WxVhDCMd this help?
[01:47] <ilovefairuz> control_: open a terminal and try this: sudo ifconfig eth0 up; iwlist eth0 scan
[01:48] <_DGM_> i'm looking at that program though and i dont see anything that the "normal desktop doesnt provide" as it claims
[01:48] <Seeker`> Grub isn't letting me boot in to windows properly. Keeps on giving me "invalid signature" when I select the windows 7 option. Any ideas?
[01:48] <control_> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[01:48] <Wiesshund> Renfield im kind of at a loss on the next step, aside from installing from a livecd instead. your vid hardware doesnt use any proprietary drivers that i can point you to an update for
[01:49] <eztop> control_  has a broadcom BCM4309 802.11a/b/g card
[01:49] <Renfield> Wiesshund: Why must I be using proprietary drivers in order to move windows?
[01:49] <Wiesshund> Renfield i myself have had the upgrade go bad on a machine or two for unknown reasons, but cd install went perfect
[01:49] <chazz> Anyone know how to enable the ipv6 kernel module?
[01:49] <headkase314> control_, so did you have any updates in Update Manager?  I know Update Manager needs to be run once before Hardware Drivers will show listings.
[01:49] <ilovefairuz> control_: sudo tail -n 600 /var/log/messages | pastebinit -
[01:50] <eztop> control, do you know how to use synaptic?
[01:50] <Renfield> Wiesshund: Well, I don't want to blow away this computer and start fresh.
[01:50] <_DGM_> Renfield: what was your problem exactly?
[01:50] <thune3> psilo2: i can't see a reason. if there was a hidden area, i think it would show up as a seperate device. So I can't see how zeroing would do anything useful.
[01:50] <Wiesshund> Renfield you dont, your misunderstanding. drivers for your hardware are built in, they should just work (obviously they are not though)
[01:50] <control_> http://pastebin.com/YKMVayeW
[01:50] <Renfield> _DGM_: I've upgraded to 10.4 LTS, and now my plain vanilla Enlightment 16 no longer allows me to manipulate the windows. Move, resize, close or iconify all don't work.
[01:51] <ilovefairuz> control_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[01:51] <ilovefairuz> control_: restart your machine after this
[01:51] <control_> k brb
[01:51] <_DGM_> Renfield: aah alright.. cant help with enlightment i'm affraid. Was wondering if it might've been a compiz problem but its obviously not
[01:52] <eztop> yes, you need non-free repo, maybe
[01:52] <_DGM_> shouldnt have anything to do with the video driver.. i cant imagine that having anything to do with eachother
[01:53] <ilovefairuz> control_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic  (i had a typo in the second command, redo it again)
[01:53] <wheliton> good evening. i need some help to change the resolution of my ubuntu. can anyone help me?
[01:53] <eztop> ilovefairuz:  I think control disconnected
[01:53] <Wiesshund> _DGM_ his video driver doesnt appear to be working. he can go back to gnome with same issue and cant enable desktop effects etc
[01:54] <thune3> psilo2: i'm not clear about the "raid" part, and if you have a hardware raid controller that might be doing something to cause this. otherwise this falls into a "contact the manufacturer" recommendation.
[01:54] <headkase314> wheliton, do you know what your video card is and do you know if you have the driver set up for it?
[01:54] <psilo2> thune3: nope, the raid is just a partition type.
[01:54] <eztop> my thinkpad had a broadcom card when I tried ubuntu 9.10
[01:54] <Renfield> I really don't understand how the video driver could be not working. Everything about video display works except that the window manager doesn't respond to my window manipulations.
[01:54] <_DGM_> Wiesshund: either way i dont see how that could be related. Even if he had a standard vga or vesa driver he prolly still cant move windows
[01:54] <headkase314> wheliton, for the generic resolution settings, go to System > Preferences > Monitors and you will see the controls there.
[01:54] <psilo2> thune3: yeah, I will have to return the drive and tell them the serial number of the good one, and demand an exact match.
[01:55] <_DGM_> it would be on a whole other layer
[01:55] <Renfield> I am even able to resize Firefox using the firefox corner. Just not the corner of the window borders themselves.
[01:55] <control_> ok i did all that and restarted, now how do i test the wireless?
[01:55] <psilo2> thune3: unfortunately they've *really* inconvenienced my employer by rounding the size.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> Renfield:  sounds like the 'window manager' part of the desktop has crashed.  Try opening a terminal and running (for example)  metacity, or some other window maanger.. do you SEE the windows titlebars?
[01:55] <Renfield> Dr_Willis: I see everything just as I expect to see it.
[01:56] <Renfield> Windows look correct in Enlightenment.
[01:56] <thune3> psilo2: of course they might say that both drives exceed "spec" in terms of size, and that anything over X, was just unused fail/redundancy that that you get as bonus.
[01:56] <Renfield> Window interiors are fully useable.
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> Renfield:  as a test. You could make a new user, and see if the problem affects them.
[01:56] <_DGM_> psilo2: you'll have a hard time getting that. Usually it has bad sectors that are hidden on the low level format. Thats why its smaller. It will have a size around... but never exact
[01:56] <Renfield> It's just the window borders that I can't effect.
[01:56] <Renfield> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I'll try that.
[01:56] <eztop> control_:  is there a pair of monitor icons anywhere in the corner?
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Renfield:  id also be curious if alt-click in a window lets you move the window.
[01:57] <wheliton> headkase314 - i dont know what is my video card.
[01:57] <control_> No
[01:57] <psilo2> _DGM_: three out of four drives (different brands) have the exact same size down to the byte.  I think the correct size is the norm rather than exception
[01:57] <wheliton> headkase314 i know there is a command for me to get the information about my videocard, but i dont remenber it.
[01:57] <eztop> control:  no where?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> wheliton:  lspci
[01:58] <eztop> i think in ubuntu, it's in top right corner?????
[01:58] <headkase314> wheliton, are you on a fresh install?  You can go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers and see if any are offered for your machine.  Hopefully that will show either an Ati or an Nvidia solution.
[01:58] <_DGM_> psilo2: those were probably bigger drivers, where they set it to be that exact size in the low lvl format
[01:58] <eztop> I'm using lubuntu so for me, it's at bottom right
[01:58] <Wiesshund> _DGM_ i had same issue while i had driver removed and was building a new driver.
[01:58] <_DGM_> drives**
[01:58] <Gerrin> Trying to setup JACK so i can use IDJC can anyone help me out
[01:58] <eztop> control_ if you go to hardware drivers, is there any option for wireless?
[01:58] <control_> No
[01:59] <control_> completely blank
[01:59] <control_> and only icon is xchat up top
[01:59] <headkase314> wheliton, if one is offered there you just need to activate it.  Then reboot and your display should be at its native resolution.  If there is nothing there then its a bit more complex and someone else will have to jump in too.
[01:59] <eztop> what about in the menu?
[01:59] <conn> how goes everyone
[01:59] <eztop> I forget which category... my de is lxde on this machine
[01:59] <sm3gal> what brand is recommended for a wireless g usb adapter
[01:59] <sm3gal> linksys doesn't make ubuntu compatable
[02:00] <sm3gal> according to a sales rep
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> sm3gal:  it would depend more on the chipset in the thing, then the brand.
[02:00] <sm3gal> ok
[02:00] <wheliton> HEADKASE - that is right. i am not offered any resolution but 600x800
[02:00] <eztop> sm3gal:  I will suggest ralink and zydas chipsets... anyone agree?   maybe linksys or d-link for brand
[02:00] <wheliton> HEADKASE324 - that is right. i am not offered any resolution but 600x800
[02:00] <control_> I have to admit, i was messing around with drivers trying to get this worked, and i installed multiple network tools and uninstalled them
[02:00] <Gerrin> ive never had a problem with Belkin, ive used them on 3ubuntu systems
[02:01] <Gerrin> was just plug and go
[02:01] <Renfield> Dr_Willis: When I use the diamond key and click in a window I can move it around.
[02:01] <Oer> sm3gal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported#Wireless%20USB%20Adapters   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:01] <eztop> sm3gal:  my usb wireless adapter is a belkin with zydas chipset
[02:01] <eztop> works out of the box
[02:01] <picard1400> hey guys..
[02:01] <headkase314> wheliton, System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, do you see something that says Ati or Nvidia there?
[02:01] <picard1400> super duber question
[02:01] <eztop> ralink is very supported now... if you can find a brand with that chipset
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> Renfield:  sounds like the window manager is confused about somthing.  if it works with a newly made user. that would point to a config issue.
[02:01] <eztop> control:   why not check synaptic for 'broadcom?'
[02:01] <Gerrin> anybody know how to set up JACK, i need help
[02:02] <picard1400> i have GDM installed but i want it to log into DWM... not GNOME.. i know at hte bottom of hte login screen i can choose, gnome and gnome failsafre... how do i get DWM as an option in there??
[02:02] <control_> How do I fix this guys?
[02:02] <brandon__> whats the command to reload the current theme
[02:02] <eztop> control:   what is in your sources list?  do you have any non-free repositories?   you might need one for the broadcom firmware...
[02:02] <control_> i just installed the broadcom firmware and crap
[02:03] <eztop> control:  b43 firmware?
[02:03] <picard1400> njyone?
[02:03] <control_> yes i think so
[02:03] <wheliton> headkase314 - i was said that there is no drive properties in the system
[02:03] <brandon__> whats the command to reload the current theme
[02:03] <control_> how do i get the b43 firmware?  i got the cutter...
[02:03] <eztop> control:  that is the firmware
[02:04] <control_> the fwcutter? ok then its installed
[02:04] <brandon__> whats the command to reload the current themee??? trying to make my own theme
[02:04] <eztop> control: what is the output of 'iwconfig'
[02:04] <headkase314> wheliton, that statement really doesn't make sense.  Go to the "System" menu in the upper-left corner, select "Administration" and then choose "Hardware Drivers", in that - exactly what does it say?
[02:05] <joey_> okay samba is configured
[02:05] <control_> lo        no wireless extensions.
[02:05] <control_> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[02:05] <eztop> oh, you need, 'sudo iwconfig'
[02:05] <eztop> i think
[02:06] <control_> same output
[02:06] <control_> but this command shows diff
[02:06] <control_> control@server1:~$ lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[02:06] <control_> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M Gigabit Ethernet [14e4:165d] (rev 01)
[02:06] <control_> 02:03.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g [14e4:4324] (rev 03)
[02:06] <control_> control@server1:~$
[02:06] <FloodBot3> control_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <chris63546541651> i am having trouble accessing my external hdd, it says that /dev/sdb1 is not a valid block device
[02:06] <wheliton> headkase314 - IT SAYS: "there are no driver properties in the system"
[02:06] <eztop> post those in pastebin :)
[02:06] <Renfield> Dr_Willis: I logged in with a user that's never use E16 before and it is even more messed up. Nothing looks right and no menus are available. I did a reinstall of E16 but that doesn't help.
[02:07] <eztop> your wireless card is at least detected... sounds like you need to load the modules
[02:07] <headkase314> wheliton, There are no proprietary drivers on your system, not properties?  Is there any listed that you can activate - Ati or Nvidia?
[02:07] <control_> i dunno what the f im doing
[02:07] <psilo2> thune3: Fry's is going to let me open drives and plug them in until one has the right size :)
[02:07] <eztop> control:  you rebooted, right?
[02:07] <control_> Yes sir
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> Renfield:  i would say check the forums. Or i recall some E16 PPA's  - every time i use 'E' it lasts for about 30 min.. then i get sick of it
[02:08] <wheliton> HEADKASE314 - sorry. i had problems when translated. they said "no proprietary drivers". proprietary, not properties
[02:08] <Ubuntu-User> Hi
[02:08] <eztop> control:  oh... okay... it's been a while since I used a broadcom wifi card... sorry, takes me a while to remember
[02:08] <wheliton> headkase314 - but the list i was given is blank
[02:08] <control_> yeah i dunno what to do lol
[02:09] <techwizrd> I just installed Lucid on a desktop that was running Jaunty fine. Everything works fine (compositing, etc.) except for one thing: I have some weird horizontal "flicker".
[02:09] <headkase314> wheliton, ok, if the list window is blank then someone else is going to have to help - first need to find out what your video hardware is and then see about getting you to a resolution higher than 800x600.  Sorry, this is the limit I know myself - someone else will have to help from here.
[02:09] <eztop> control:  for me, it worked sometimes and other times, not... so, i switched to in an intel 2200bg wifi card lol
[02:09] <control_> yeah i dont have that option
[02:10] <picard1400> anyone
[02:10] <picard1400> have GDM.. want to get DWM as a login option????
[02:10] <picard1400> do i edixt Xsesion or what?
[02:10] <wheliton> headkase314 - ok. i did appreciate your help. thank you so much.
[02:10] <iflema> control_ you may require the b43legacy firmware
[02:10] <headkase314> wheliton, you're welcome ;)
[02:10] <Ubuntu-User> I'm looking for unoficial ubuntu wiki.i have forgot addres but it was one simple page. By clicking any link page is scrolling to exactly place
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> picard1400:  if its not in ghe GDM Menus. make a proper .desktop entry file for it for GDM to use.
[02:10] <control_> ok?
[02:11] <techwizrd> control_: have you tried the b43-fwcutter package?
[02:11] <picard1400> Dr_willis what do you mean
[02:11] <control_> thats what i just installed techy
[02:11] <thune3> psilo2: that'll work
[02:11] <control_> but it didnt do anything...
[02:11] <Dr_Willis>  picard1400  GDM gets its menu items from .desktop files -- ie: ---> /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[02:11] <control_> i installed it through package manager and rebooted...
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> picard1400:  copy that, rename it, edit it.. make it run what you want
[02:11] <eztop> maybe control has to enable the modules?
[02:11] <eztop> I dunno...
[02:12] <psilo2> thune3: to be safe I'll buy two identical models, as well.  I will take the bunk patriot drive and use it as a voodoo doll against the patriot.com mailserver drives
[02:12] <picard1400> if i want to create my own script Dr_Willis what would i do?
[02:12] <control_> all i did was install the cutter thing, am i supposed to config it or something?
[02:12] <techwizrd> control_:  What is your exact wifi card? I've installed b43-fwcutter on several different laptops with broadcom wifi cars with much success.
[02:13] <control_> How do i show you that tech?
[02:13] <techwizrd> control_: no configs or anything needed
[02:13] <control_> its a dell latitude d600
[02:13] <bindi> hmm. I wonder where the problem is. probably not related to ubuntu at all. But I've got a ubuntu 10.04, running on a core i3 530, as a htpc. It's connected to a 42" TV using hdmi... and the picture is GREEN <.<. What's supposed to be black, is green.. I tried the same computer and hdmi cable with my monitor, and it worked without problems. I tried some googling and all i could find out was its related to HDCP
[02:13] <headkase314> Dell Latitude D600 Hardware specs: http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/dell-latitude-d600-notebook/4507-3121_7-20906166.html
[02:14] <sm3gal> is ettercap-gk in the repos
[02:14] <sm3gal> ?
[02:14] <eztop> control:   I don't know if this will help but take a look:   http://sc.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549538
[02:14] <techwizrd> control_: sudo lshw -short | grep Wireless
[02:15] <control_> Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 03)
[02:15] <eztop> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[02:15] <techwizrd> control: Mine is BCM4318. Installing b43-fwcutter should work.
[02:15] <control_> didnt output anything...
[02:16] <control_> i already installed b43-fwcutter and anything that said broadcom on the package manager
[02:17] <twoten> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 and it won't boot, just says GRUB and a blinking cursor
[02:17] <twoten> what should I do?
[02:17] <techwizrd> remove all the stuff that says broadcom except b43-fwcutter
[02:18] <control_> ok removing it all now BUT the fwcutter
[02:18] <control_> do i restart after?
[02:18] <control_> by the way, am i supposed to install a network manager?
[02:18] <control_> or should something pop up saying wireless?
[02:19] <techwizrd> control_: you are using gnome, right?
[02:19] <lov255> !.conf
[02:19] <control_> gnome, xubuntu, xfce got them all in here, but using gnome atm
[02:19] <TrentonAdams> So, anyone here know how to do raid after installation?  Can't get my system to auto boot
[02:20] <techwizrd> control_: you should have nm-apple by default then
[02:20] <eztop> control_:  do you have network manager?   you should see something in there for wireless?  no?
[02:20] <techwizrd> control_: *nm-applet
[02:20] <control_> what is the best network manager to use
[02:20] <control_> i dont have that installed anymore
[02:20] <eztop> yeah, nm-applet, the double monitor with antenna icon
[02:20] <twoten> skynet?
[02:20] <techwizrd> control_: You should have nm-applet.
[02:20] <lov255> So I am trying to read up on .conf files.  These are config files, I am more intereseted in how they relate to in /etc/modprobe.d/?
[02:20] <lov255> I hope this is the right channel for this question
[02:21] <sponzor> the 10.04 has a lot of bugs :/
[02:21] <eztop> control_:  whatever one is installed now is probably good enough?   i dunno...
[02:21] <Izinucs> sponzor: maybe on your machine..
[02:21] <twoten> my new install won't boot either, off of my SCSi drive
[02:21] <headkase314> sponzor, 10.04 has been rock solid for me.  It really depends on the hardware in your machine - luck of the draw sometimes.
[02:22] <lov255> sponzor: I have had nothing but head aches with 10.04 but half of it is because I am a noob
[02:22] <lov255> anyone can help with my question?
[02:22] <Izinucs> lov255: depends on the question
[02:22] <techwizrd> lov225: .conf files are just regular config files. A lot of apps have them.
[02:22] <twoten> I like 10.04, I left KDE for gnome becuase of 10.04
[02:22] <eztop> control_:  do you use ebay? :)
[02:23] <control_> no
[02:23] <Wiesshund> sponzor 10.04 works really well but it doesnt work on some of the older hardware that 9.X ran on. Also the 10.04 upgrade seems hit and miss compared to a cd install. that part is a bit flawed
[02:23] <eztop> control:  do you know anyone who can?
[02:23] <lov255> techwizrd: How would a .conf file relate to a driver?
[02:23] <Izinucs> twoten: 10.04 has a good kde dm
[02:23] <control_> no
[02:23] <techwizrd> extop: I hope you're not suggesting he buy a new wifi card.
[02:23] <eztop> control_:  oh...
[02:23] <picard1400> ok guys still havin a problem Dr_Willis ok what i did was actually create dwm.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions/
[02:23] <picard1400> this is what it contains
[02:23] <picard1400> http://pastebin.com/gpSGxJvg
[02:23] <eztop> techwizrd:  yes, that's what i was going to
[02:23] <lov255> techwizrd: also in follow up, how would I go about finding the location of a preloaded driver on ubuntu 10.04?
[02:24] <eztop> techwizrd:  I had a broadcom card and I changed it to intel 2200bg... way better ...easier
[02:24] <techwizrd> Find the package, and look at where it install files.
[02:24] <eztop> techwizrd:  c'mon...broadcom cards have been a pain since hardy!
[02:24] <picard1400> and when i tried to boot up i did not have the DWM as an option
[02:24] <picard1400> http://pastebin.com/gpSGxJvg
[02:24] <Izinucs> lov255: lots are part of the kernel and therefore not a separate file
[02:24] <eztop> still don't work well...and pain to configure
[02:24] <picard1400> im not sure what i did wrong?
[02:24] <eztop> even when i got it to work, i bought an intel one anyway
[02:25] <techwizrd> eztop: I wasn't able to get my card working until 8.04. After that I just install b43-fwcutter and everything is abreee.
[02:25] <Nazdravi> hi all - I'm trying to setup kpsat to run alerts for psat IDS. I can't get the kdialog command to work when called from inside a shell script. I've tried using the absolute path, running DISPLAY=localhost:0.0, and even xhost +local:....nothing seems to be working...if I run the line from the command line, it works fine. I'm getting the following error: kdialog: cannot connect to X server
[02:25] <eztop> techwizrd:   yeah, but control is having trouble with it
[02:25] <twoten> I just installed off the cd but it won't boot, I guess I should reboot off the cd and see if I can fix grub from there
[02:25] <techwizrd> eztop: If it makes a difference, I'm using a laptop. I've got no choice.
[02:25] <eztop> techwizrd:   me too... thinkpad t41 here
[02:25] <Izinucs> Nazdravi: you might get a technical answer to a kde issue here but if you don't try #kde
[02:25] <eztop> I have the same video card as control's as well, btw
[02:26] <picard1400> anyone know what im doin wrong?
[02:26] <eztop> thinkpad t4x series has many of the same options in hardware components as many dell d6xx series
[02:27] <twoten> no-one cares about me, I will now kill myself
[02:27] <eztop> control_ :  still there?  sorry, my broadcom troubles was long ago... it should still work... maybe something is missing
[02:27] <techwizrd> control_: Uninstall all the broadcom stuff including b43-fwcutter and make sure to use the purge option (or completely remove option in Synaptic). Then reboot and install b43-fwcutter and reboot again. Report back telling us if it works or not.
[02:27] <twoten> **shboof**
[02:27] <traviscj> hi there. i'd like to disable errors on the startup screen
[02:27] <Nazdravi> thanks! I'll check it out
[02:27] <lov255> Izinucs: I am wondering how I would interact with the preloaded driver called rt2870sta - and how I can get that driver to run my wireless USB WUSB100 by linksys - everything I read says thats the driver and many articals say it is installed on Ubuntu 10.04
[02:27] <headkase314> control_, _just to make sure_ is your wireless turned on?  You know, the switch on the laptop... ;) Just making sure! :D
[02:27] <Wiesshund> brb
[02:28] <control_> there is no switch, its an older laptop
[02:28] <eztop> yeah, try the install in command line :   sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[02:28] <headkase314> control_, ok then, just making sure ;)
[02:28] <control_> this is crazy
[02:28] <picard1400> Dr_Willis http://pastebin.com/gpSGxJvg
[02:28] <ilovefairuz> control_: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:28] <control_> maybe i dont have a network manager or something
[02:28] <twoten> shouldn't your handle be _control? then it would read as "under control"
[02:29] <a16BitSoft_> Running 10.04 32bit - its the greatest OS ever made
[02:29] <techwizrd> control_: Have you tried my instructions yet? (the whole completely remove bit And make sure you have nm-applet installed and running.
[02:29] <ilovefairuz> control_: type nm-applet in a terminal and see if a new icon appears
[02:29] <lov255> ilovefairuz: how is it going?  I am still determined to get this WUSB100 to work
[02:29] <control_> nm-applet i cant seem to find
[02:29] <Izinucs> lov255: if it's there and compatible with your usb adaptor then you should be able to use network-manager to connect.. up by the clock is a network icon.. right mouse click, edit connections, wireless etc.etc..
[02:29] <control_> ** (nm-applet:9527): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[02:29] <eztop> sudo install network-manager???
[02:29] <lov255> izinucs:nothing in network-manager
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> picard1400:  so? what of it.
[02:30] <headkase314> control_, hold Alt+F2 then in the window that appears type "nm-applet" and ok.
[02:30] <Izinucs> lov255: it helps if there is no encryption on the link .. once connected and functional then you can add that later.. you won't see the card there in network manager
[02:30] <picard1400> Dr_willis i created that in
[02:30] <techwizrd> Does anyone have screen flickering issues with Radeon 9600? It worked in Jaunty but I am getting screen flickering issues in Lucid.
[02:30] <ilovefairuz> control_: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[02:30] <eztop> techwizrd:   I have issues with a Radeon 9000... you are not alone
[02:30] <picard1400> i created it in /usr/share/xsessions Dr_Willis and named it dwm.desktop
[02:30] <headkase314> control_, hold Alt+F2 then in the window that appears type "nm-applet" and Run actually..
[02:30] <techwizrd> I'm also using the default radeon drivers that come with ubuntu if that matters.
[02:31] <Izinucs> lov255: is your network broadcasting the ssid? if not you'll have to name the network manually
[02:31] <picard1400> but when i booted up it did not have it in an option next to the other stuff?
[02:31] <ilovefairuz> lov255: rebooted since yesterday? sudo tail -n 600 /var/log/messages | pastebinit -
[02:31] <lov255> izinucs:so if I do not see the card in Network Manager how do I use it?
[02:31] <eztop> wait until _control wants to do anything with video....ouchie
[02:31] <eztop> :)
[02:31] <control_> nothing
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> picard1400:    You dident edit the contents of the file.. you need to tell it what to run.
[02:31] <hiexpo> ha
[02:31] <lov255> ilovefairuz I rebooted a lot LOL
[02:31] <eztop> techwizrd:   that's all you can use... we have only radeon open source driver as a choice
[02:31] <ilovefairuz> control_: install the package i gave you
[02:31] <picard1400> i did
[02:31] <picard1400> it says
[02:31] <picard1400> run dwm
[02:31] <Izinucs> lov255: single click the icon.  Create wireless network
[02:31] <picard1400> intead of the gonem thing
[02:31] <Wiesshund> picard1400 your pastebin says to run xterm
[02:31] <FloodBot3> picard1400: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <headkase314> control_, I'm on a pretty default install and I have nm-applet.  Go to Applications > Accessories > Terminal and type nm-applet there and press enter: what does that say?
[02:32] <ilovefairuz> !enter | picard1400
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> picard1400:  your paste id showing xterm for the name and program to exec.
[02:32] <control_> An instance of nm-applet is already running.
[02:32] <Aemaeth> if anyone knows "Dash" loops that will run in a current sh prompt then please respond, i need a simple for loop but i've having problems with this language
[02:32] <control_> but i see no icons
[02:32] <eztop> control_:  I would reboot but that's just me...
[02:32] <picard1400> Dr_Willis here is the pastebin
[02:32] <control_> k brb
[02:32] <picard1400> http://pastebin.com/pCW5wcww
[02:33] <eztop> sorry, if that is wrong move, guys :)
[02:33] <eztop> but, he can't find network manager?   can't find the applet
[02:33] <ilovefairuz> Izinucs: lov255: bad advice, create wireless network makes an adhoc network, doesn't even connect to an existing one
[02:33] <techwizrd> ilovefairuz: But I'm getting horizontal screen flickering. Should I try fglrx or xorg-edgers or should Ijsut downgrade back to Jaunty?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> picard1400:  you dident c change the NAME line..    and you MUST restart GDM for it to see the new files.
[02:33] <ilovefairuz> techwizrd: pastebin: lshw -C display
[02:33] <picard1400> name line..
[02:33] <eztop> i have had applet problems in the past... i think a reboot might help... reloads it maybe?
[02:34] <picard1400> i will redo it
[02:34] <perlmonkey2> Is eclipse 3.6 in the pipeline for 10.04?
[02:34] <Wiesshund> picard1400 you have the name just saying GNOME
[02:34] <Izinucs> ilovefairuz: didn't know that.. thanks.. it's not clear .. one of my many gripes with nm
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> picard1400:  yes... ie: --> http://pastebin.com/Jsq3Ba2p
[02:34] <picard1400> lol thanks Dr_willis
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> File a bug on DWM package - tell it that it needs a .desktioop file
[02:34] <eztop> techwizrd:   fglrx isn't applicable to your card
[02:34] <lov255> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/CCvvXkwa - also take a look at this, I found the true id's to the card and the script we have been using is wrong http://pastebin.com/CWKMycdN
[02:35] <Wiesshund> Dr_Willis lol i like yours hehe
[02:35] <eztop> techwizrd:   flgrx supports cards from hd 3xxx on
[02:35] <headkase314> techwizrd, what is your graphics hardware?
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> !info dwm
[02:35] <techwizrd> ilovefairuz: http://pastie.org/1089579
[02:35] <eztop> headkase314:  we all have radeon 9xxx cards here lol
[02:35] <sm3gal> how i get the bar at the bottom like in this screenie
[02:35] <sm3gal> http://www.valeriovalerio.org/images/Ubuntu_Mockup_Hardy_Heron_by_willwill100.png
[02:35] <flyeng4> Having trouble with mounting nfs share on my ubuntu server.  mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '192.168.1.101' failed: timed out, giving up
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> sm3gal:  if its a Mockup - then its just a image file someone pasted together
[02:36] <eztop> his is radeon 9600, iirc
[02:36] <headkase314> eztop, fglrx supports HD2000 and later on Ubuntu 10.04 before that you *must* use the built-in Ati open-source driver.  The reason is that Ati's legacy driver does not support the new x-server in 10.04
[02:36] <flyeng4> The command is sudo mount 192.168.1.101:/home/william/media/pictures ~/tmp/mnt/
[02:36] <techwizrd> My graphics card is  "RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]"
[02:36] <Aemaeth> please anyone that can get a line of "sh pageParser.sh $varString/$varInt" $var2"   where var int starts at a max number and drops to zero to loop in dash, please shout my name so i see your response
[02:36] <lov255> ilovefairuz: can you give me the command to paste bin the /etc/udev/rules/w-usb100.rules file...I am not sure what it is
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> sm3gal:  that can be one of many different docks..
[02:36] <Wiesshund> sm3gal software center, look for dock
[02:36] <Ardjun> i instealled some ffmpg codecs and suddenly my mp3 playing isn't working, i ininstalled the codecs but it's the same. How could i restart the whole system so it would function?
[02:36] <sm3gal> thank you
[02:36] <iggy_> does anyone know whats the best way to convert flash video to a format to burn to cd
[02:36] <eztop> headkase314:   you sure?  i was sure radeon hd 2100 was only OSS
[02:36] <iggy_> like mp3
[02:36] <Izinucs> sm3gal: that could be awn, gnome-do, and there are others.. icons will probably be a bit different
[02:36] <ilovefairuz> lov255: wrong id? it's the same id as in the blog post, why do you think it's wrong?
[02:36] <iggy_> gnome do is awesome
[02:37] <headkase314> techwizrd, you have to use the open-source driver - it should be installed with Ubuntu by default.  eztop, I'm almost positive HD2000+
[02:37] <Aemaeth> simple for (i=var; i>0; i--) in dash is all i ask, this will unlock most of dash's secrets that it's hiding from me
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> iggy_:  ffmpeg/mencoder can take the audi from a flash file and save as mp3.
[02:37] <iggy_> thanks dr_willis
[02:37] <eztop> headkase314:  i know someone who has hd 2100... i think i am right but I'm not betting ;)
[02:37] <headkase314> eztop, HD2000+ for proprietary fglrx driver hardware older than that Open-Source driver
[02:37] <iggy_> is it in the softwar center
[02:38] <techwizrd> headkase314: I'm using the open source driver, but I'm getting this weird horizontal flicker. Like the edges of lines and things of that nature look wiggly and are flickering
[02:38] <headkase314> eztop, the OSS driver works on newer than HD2000 hardware but the proprietary driver doesn't work on older than HD2000 hardware.
[02:38] <Izinucs> sm3gal: check out http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2010/06/avant-window-navigator-for-ubuntu-linux.html
[02:38] <lov255> ilovefairuz: let me show you the file with the changes
[02:38] <agony> How can I stop the apache server by default ?
[02:38] <ilovefairuz> techwizrd: have you selected changing monitor frequency ?
[02:38] <North_Italian69> If I move "locate" from "cron.daily" to "cron.hourly" it is sufficient to make update every hour or I have to edit/modify the task?
[02:38] <lov255> ilovefairuz: I need the command to pastbinit to you
[02:38] <ilovefairuz> lov255: sudo pastebinit /etc/udev/rules.d/10-wusb100.rules
[02:39] <thune3> sm3gal: looks like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock to me
[02:39] <corpsegrindr> I have a cisco ae1000 on 10.04. It works for a few hours most of the time, but it always ends up losing connection. When it does I get "bad password" when i try to reconnect to my router. Also i can not bring the router back up from console. the only way to reconnect is to reboot
[02:39] <ilovefairuz> techwizrd: check if you can select a different frequency for the monitor
[02:39] <headkase314> techwizrd, I don't know what to suggest but I know you have to use the built-in driver.  Perhaps it is something to do with your monitor timings?  If it is be very careful in adjusting them as bad numbers can damage some monitors.
[02:39] <Izinucs> thune3: sm3gal I'd forgotten that one.. could be
[02:39] <lov255> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/ZFQxyrGb
[02:40] <techwizrd> ilovefairuz, There are no other frequencies, only 60 Hz @ 1680x1050
[02:40] <Wiesshund> techwizrd lcd? if so 60 is what you want to use
[02:40] <Ardjun> sound isn't working on my 10.04 versions, any clues how to put it all in default settings?
[02:41] <ilovefairuz> lov255: wrong syntax, restore it to original form http://razcx.wordpress.com/2010/04/11/getting-a-linksys-rangeplus-wusb100-17370078-working-with-ubuntu-9-10/
[02:41] <agony> I would like apache-server to be close when I open my PC. Do you know anyone how I can do this?
[02:41] <eztop> oh, you're right hd 2xxx is last series supported
[02:41] <headkase314> techwizrd, this page may help -> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa <- MAKE SURE to read it all as sometimes you will get a bad update that may leave your system broken until you remove these packages.  Happened to me once!
[02:41] <techwizrd> Wiesshund, I am using an lcd. Lowering the screen resolution from the default (1680x1050) gets rid of the screen flickering, running at 1440x900 is not cool.
[02:41] <iggy_> dr_willis i dont know what application your talking about
[02:41] <Wiesshund> techwizrd is 1440X900 its native?
[02:42] <techwizrd> Wiesshund, the native is 1680x1050
[02:43] <headkase314> techwizrd, I used X-Org Edgers to get an HD2600 working that wouldn't work any other way - worked great until one day there was a bad update.  Happens infrequently but does happen with that PPA
[02:43] <eztop> headkase314:  does that work with radeon drivers too?
[02:43] <eztop> headkase314:  i mean, with radeon mobility 9000 cards?
[02:43] <Ardjun> is there a way to make my sound to work other than reinstalling this system? i'm really new with this
[02:44] <headkase314> eztop, here is the driver list -> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/drivers-only
[02:44] <lap_dragon> what does this mean?  Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[02:44] <shockmount> how often do you guys do your updates
[02:44] <lov255> lap_dragon means you are about to cause a collision
[02:45] <lap_dragon> which is
[02:45] <headkase314> shockmount, I'm OCD about it, I run Update Manager every hour or two - brb, going to run Update Manager...
[02:45] <lov255> lap_dragon:when two items conflict with one another
[02:45] <eztop> headkase314:  thanks... i ask because i had video driver issues too
[02:45] <lap_dragon> ok, is that serious?
[02:45] <lap_dragon> my screen has been blinking a little, does that have anything to do with it?
[02:45] <lov255> lap_dragon: can be extremely serious depending on the situation
[02:45] <agony> can someone to help me? I want to close the apache-server and only when I need to start it
[02:46] <lap_dragon> I should probably shut that terminal then. It has been doing this for about 300 lines
[02:46] <eztop> does anyone like their ati cards?  anyone use a newer one?
[02:46] <lov255> ilovefairuz: we will have to wait a bit mouse is acting up again
[02:46] <headkase314> eztop, just remember x-org edgers is a development ppa - sometimes after an update your graphic mode will be borked and you have either the choice to uninstall the whole ppa or apt-get upgrade for a few days from the console until they fix it!
[02:46] <shockmount> headkase314: *laughs* well suppose someone hack the repository an inputted a bad mod that hacks your stuff?
[02:47] <lov255> lap_dragon: good idea
[02:47] <conn> blarg, can anyone help me create a xorg conf file
[02:47] <eztop> i need to get a video card sometime... i passed my nvidia one to a relative... i don't want to use an old x300se  ...lol
[02:47] <North_Italian69> If I move "locate" from "cron.daily" to "cron.hourly" it is sufficient to make updates every hour or I have to edit/modify the task?
[02:47] <techwizrd> eztop: I mostly use integrated intel cards (I mostly have dell laptops(. They work perfectly for me.
[02:47] <headkase314> shockmount, well there were no updates when I just checked ;) was a record for me 2 whole hours since last check! Thanks for reminding me ;)
[02:47] <Izinucs> !xrandr | conn
[02:47] <eztop> headkase314:  oh! um...... :)
[02:47] <Blue1> North_Italian69: why do you need to do it once/hour?
[02:48] <agony> Please someone to speak with me?
[02:48] <biodegabriel> Hi All, are there any GUI SSH interfaces for Ubuntu 10.04? Don't shoot me for asking!
[02:48] <eztop> techwizrd:  well, I ask for my desktop... i'm fixed for my laptop...no choice but to use radeon! :o
[02:48] <shockmount> headkase314: lol i get tired of doing updates sometimes i wish they do them once a month
[02:48] <Blue1> biodegabriel: well putty
[02:48] <Blue1> biodegabriel: but that's windows
[02:48] <alket> How to upload image at ubuntu wiki ?
[02:48] <techwizrd> I'm going to try the xorg-edgers ppa and report back on whether it works or not. Wish me luck!
[02:48] <Izinucs> biodegabriel: I think nautilus will do ssh
[02:48] <Blue1> agony: sup?
[02:48] <North_Italian69> Blue1: i need to test a new configuraton in "updatedb.conf"
[02:49] <lap_dragon> xchat was causing a collision o.o
[02:49] <eztop> techwizrd:  good luck!!!! lol
[02:49] <biodegabriel> Blue1, Izinucs: i mean, like with buttons and 'up/down' arrow controls, like old DOS style?
[02:49] <biodegabriel> Nautilus?
[02:49] <agony> Blue1: what do you mean?
[02:49] <Blue1> North_Italian69: ahh you should be ok
[02:49] <agony> sup?
[02:49] <shockmount> i wonder which tech channel has the most viewers ... do anybody here knows?
[02:49] <Blue1> agony: you asked for help, what cn we help with?
[02:49] <headkase314> shockmount, I'd rather have security updates as soon as they are available - if you don't like the frequency you can modify how often it prompts you by going to: System > Administration > Software Sources, and under the "Updates" tab is the setting.
[02:49] <North_Italian69> Blue1: ** i need to test a new configuration that i made in "updatedb.conf"
[02:49] <conn> so am I reading dated material when I read that you need to enable UXA in xorg, to get the most out of your intel graphics card
[02:49] <Izinucs> biodegabriel: I don't know what old dos style you're referring to.. what I remember of dos never had arrow controls..
[02:50] <techwizrd> I love how they are called Xorg crack pushers. Anyways, I'm going to reboot now. I'll see you all in a few minutes.
[02:50] <agony> I want to close the apache-server but by default
[02:50] <Blue1> North_Italian69: you should be able to just update the cron.hourly then
[02:50] <Izinucs> conn: could be
[02:50] <shockmount> headkase314: Yeah I will do that
[02:50] <eztop> haha, crack pushers
[02:50] <Blue1> agony: I am NOT the apache guy, sorry.
[02:50] <North_Italian69> Blue1: i never done before
[02:50] <biodegabriel> Izinucs: Yeah, I know, i guess it doesn't exist. fuggetaboutit.
[02:50] <agony> thanks
[02:50] <headkase314> shockmount, yup - set it to what you like!
[02:50] <eztop> i can't help with apache either, sorry
[02:50] <Blue1> North_Italian69: hang on - priviate message ok?
[02:51] <North_Italian69> ok
[02:51] <eztop> agony:  try googling it... what you want to do...
[02:51] <conn> Izinucs, whats the best way to get the best perf out of an intel graphics chipset (noob usr0
[02:51] <conn> )
[02:51] <sm3gal> !hammertime
[02:51] <eztop> apache server is popular
[02:51] <Izinucs> conn: sorry I use nvidia.. never messed with intel
[02:51] <sm3gal> ubottu, hammertime
[02:51] <eztop> should i get a nvidia or ati card?
[02:51] <Blue1> eztop: nvidia
[02:51] <headkase314> eztop, ati
[02:52] <eztop> for my desktop....
[02:52] <headkase314> :p
[02:52] <conn> Izinucs, its all good :), more so trying to figure out how to create a xorg to test the enabling "uxa" mode i have read about
[02:52] <conn> xorg.conf rather
[02:52] <eztop> =-O
[02:52] <Izinucs> conn: good luck
[02:52] <eztop> :'(
[02:52] <iflema> !yay | sm3gal
[02:52] <North_Italian69> Blue1: are you there?
[02:52] <agony> I know how to stop  sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop but  when I restart my PC it is again open
[02:52] <techwizrd> I'm back. xorg-edgers did not fix my problem unfortunately. I still have this annoying horizontal screen flicker
[02:52] <Blue1> North_Italian69: I am
[02:52] <eztop> that is last component i need for my desktop to finally be built
[02:52] <lov255> ilovefairuz: I am rebooted - still no mouse - I did iwconfig no wireless extensions.  Should we put something in the /etc/network/interfaces   ??
[02:53] <headkase314> eztop, Ati actively supports an open-source driver by providing documentation to developers while nvidia only offers proprietary drivers.  This means 5 years from now you will be able to run old Ati cards while nvidia has remained closed and you can't get drivers anymore.
[02:53] <techwizrd> agony: Do you have apache start at startup?
[02:53] <ilovefairuz> lov255: sudo tail -n 600 /var/log/messages | pastebinit -
[02:53] <eztop> headkase314:   but, ati is so slow at fixing problems and bugs... and their binary drivers which you need for most tasks especially 3d are horrible
[02:53] <headkase314> techwizrd, you should ppa-purge x-org edgers then if it didn't solve the issue.
[02:54] <courpse> After googling, havent found any info, wheres the x64 netbook ubuntu install of 10.04?
[02:54] <techwizrd> headkase314: I will. xorg-edgers is pretty dangerous.
[02:54] <Blue1> North_Italian69: sorry folks -- format for cron jobs is:  # m h  dom mon dow   command
[02:54] <eztop> techwizrd:   my google earth doesn't start and before ... it was really slow
[02:54] <headkase314> eztop, Ati HD4670 here, works perfect.  All id games (really the only commercial 3d games) work fine @ 1680x1050.
[02:55] <dsfwea23> what the heck is it with ubuntu lately?  I did another update and things broke again.  Fourth time in the last two months.  This time I have no icons on my desktop but the files are still in ~/Desktop  Last time it was my shutdown/logout buttons were corrupted.  Even after reboots.
[02:55] <eztop> and my screen goes all green writing and borked when i shut down... 'ubuntu' colours are often messed up
[02:55] <headkase314> techwizrd, yes because if it doesn't fix your immediate problem then you are looking at perhaps someday getting a bad update from x-org edgers.
[02:55] <Blue1> headkase314: older ati cards are no longer supported - they are in legacy mode --
[02:55] <lov255> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/Bn6sjMnm
[02:55] <techwizrd> blue1: that's my
[02:55] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: must be your system.. doesn't happen here.
[02:56] <control_> Nothing works
[02:56] <eztop> headkase314:  i see... well, hd 4xxx cards ... ati maybe has those covered since they're older
[02:56] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, might be a good guess if it didn't happen to my wife's laptop as well
[02:56] <techwizrd> Blue1: the whole unsupported legacy card thing is terrible.
[02:56] <headkase314> Blue1, that is where the documentation Ati is providing to the Open-Source community comes into play.  The open-source drivers are getting better each month - Ubuntu 11.04 will probably be rock solid with old Ati!
[02:56] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: both the same type of lappy?
[02:56] <eztop> headkase314:   but, there's still no hardware acceleration with them at all
[02:56] <Guest57170> hey im trying to setup a ftp server. can anyone assist?
[02:56] <Blue1> headkase314: that's several months away
[02:56] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, not even close, I have a i7 generic desktop, she has a core2 dell laptop
[02:56] <eztop> i use my card for video so would like ha
[02:56] <techwizrd> headkase314: Ubuntu's open-source drivers are hit-or-miss with pretty much all ati and nvidia cards.
[02:56] <Blue1> headkase314: biggest change in 10.10 will be reporting things in decimal instead of binary - must shuttleworth copy apple?
[02:57] <headkase314> eztop, compiz effects were perfect before I installed 10.7 proprietary, games no compiz yes.  And I am looking long-term with Ati's openness.
[02:57] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, she has SSD and I've got standard HD, different hardware all the way around.
[02:57] <eztop> headkase314:  not perfect now???? :)
[02:57] <North_Italian69> Blue1: ok, but once modified have i to move the cronjob to daily?
[02:58] <eztop> I was looking at hd 4770 before but now i want either hd 5xxx card or equivalent nvidia
[02:58] <dsfwea23> But seriously, this isn't the first time an update broke things.
[02:58] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: weird.. I've got a dell vosro 1400 .. no issues at all.
[02:58] <headkase314> eztop, Open-Source Ati drivers won't do Doom 3 right now, I'd bet by Ubuntu 11.04 they just may!
[02:58] <North_Italian69> Blue1: *** sorry hourly
[02:58] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: except maybe getting a little hotter on 10.04 then 9.10
[02:58] <eztop> headkase314:  maybe...
[02:58] <Guest57170> Setting up ubuntu server. anyone that can help please msg me
[02:58] <techwizrd> headkase314: They've been saying that for _years_. It's always the year of the Linux desktop I suppose.
[02:58] <Blue1> North_Italian69: yeah just copy it over
[02:58] <ilovefairuz> lov255: sudo modprobe rt2500usb    and check iwconfig
[02:58] <eztop> techwizrd:  yeah!
[02:58] <dsfwea23> my desktop is completely blank, trying to browse through places/desktop is blank, but if I got to terminal and cd Desktop, everything is there
[02:59] <eztop> ati is always saying fix will be in the next release ;-)
[02:59] <North_Italian69> Blue1: ok, i try. hank you
[02:59] <headkase314> techwizrd, the difference in my mind is that Ati is providing documentation to the team writing the open-source driver.  nvidia provides no documentation and the nouvou driver team is on their own.
[02:59] <dsfwea23> and whatever update happened a week or two ago messed up my username and shutdown button so I couldn't logout/shutdown my systems
[02:59] <Blue1> you know it's been a long day, when you enter into your browser:  sudo apt-get install ....
[03:00] <eztop> headkase314:  how much documentation are they providing?
[03:00] <eztop> they are so slow
[03:00] <lov255> ilovefairuz still nothing on wireless extension
[03:00] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: did you do an upgrade from a previous release or a fresh install?
[03:00] <headkase314> eztop, yes its slow.  Someday.. ;)
[03:00] <eztop> i read that xv output doesn't work and there's tearing
[03:00] <alket> How to upload images to ubuntu wiki ? please help
[03:00] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, fresh install on my system, upgraded from 9.10 on wife's laptop
[03:00] <techwizrd> headkase314: ati and nvidia are pretty bad on ubuntu. The only thing that has worked for me out of the box is intel integrate chips (not the gma crap).
[03:00] <eztop> i'm a video junkie and nvidia has vpau or whatever their ha is
[03:01] <headkase314> eztop, I fully recommend an HD4670 as that is what I have.  It's worked well for me.
[03:01] <dsfwea23> [   30.363568] ecryptfs_write_tag_70_packet: Internal error whilst attempting to convert encrypted filename memory to scatterlist; expected rc = 1; got rc = [-12]. block_aligned_filename_size = [128]
[03:01] <linxeh> eztop: VDPAU
[03:01] <Wiesshund> HD4850 works very well too
[03:01] <eztop> linxeh:  thanks ;-)
[03:01] <dsfwea23> That's the only error I get... but again, filesystem is okay if I use terminal
[03:01] <eztop> headkase314:  those must be cheap now?
[03:01] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: sudo modprobe -r rt2500usb  && sudo modprobe rt2870sta && iwconfig
[03:02] <headkase314> eztop, I think they're sitting at $50-$70 - dirt cheap!
[03:02] <eztop> well, i wasn't going to spend much on it for now... since i had to buy a few components already
[03:02] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: tried kubuntu?  I run that on my desktop after 5 years of gnome.. gnome on the lappy.. I like the new itteration of kde
[03:02] <littlec> hi
[03:02] <lov255> ilovefairuz modprobe -r rt2870sta?  it comes back with no command
[03:03] <lov255> ilovefairuz without the -r
[03:03] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, no I haven't.  I haven't liked KDE so wanted to stick with gnome.  If I have to reinstall, I'm moving to something stable like debian
[03:03] <zoZo> how badly do i risk breaking my system or getting owned by booting into an earlier kernel to get my wifi working
[03:03] <lov255> ilovefairuz: no wireless
[03:03] <headkase314> eztop, here's a link to a good one -> http://www1.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=279
[03:03] <zoZo> and you know I only need wifi when working on the road
[03:03] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: I never liked kde in the 3.xx versions.. but 4.xx is smooth
[03:04] <Wiesshund> zoZo should not be a problem, how old are we talking?
[03:04] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: i don't get what you did, what did this say: sudo modprobe rt2870sta ?
[03:04] <lov255> ilovefairuz: should I try booting without my cat5 in?  Would that make a difference
[03:05] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: no reboot, just tell me if there are any error messages
[03:05]  * Izinucs smiles
[03:05] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, but it doesn't matter what DE/WM I use, other things are breaking.  They (ubuntu) broke my digital tablet since 9.04 when they remove HAL/evdev and replaced it with something non-working.
[03:05] <alket> How to upload a screenshot in Ubuntu Wiki ?
[03:05] <littlec> ?
[03:05] <techwizrd> zoZo: You don't really risk much. Honestly, It should be a problem is they are a few version numbers a part eg> 2.6.32-24 and 2.6.32-21
[03:05] <zoZo> Wiesshund 2.6.32-22
[03:05] <littlec> why do you want to upload?
[03:05] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: sudo modprobe rt2870sta .. says what?
[03:05] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, I filed bugs in 9.10 and they got closed because "it's not the current version of ubuntu"  So I moved to 10.04 and it was still broken.
[03:05] <zoZo> instead of 2.6.32-24
[03:05] <lov255> ilovefairuz: on command sudo modprobe rt2870sta comes with FATAL: Error running install command for rt2870sta
[03:06] <techwizrd> zoZo: I don't think you will have any problems. Don't worry about it
[03:06] <zoZo> the only thing i have noticed is the splash
[03:06] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: wacom?
[03:06] <Wiesshund> zoZo i see no problem with that, nothing terrible happens aside from having to reboot and pick diff kernel from grub menu
[03:06] <eztop> headkase314:  I'm checking it out... ;)
[03:06] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, no, generic tablet that worked "out-of-the-box" in 9.04 with evdev
yeah it's wierd but works
[03:07] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/rt2870sta.conf    and try last command again
[03:07] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, 9.10 removed hal + other things that broke it.  Wacom driver did work but then they restricted support for non-wacom tablets, so even in 9.10 it wouldn't work
[03:07] <techwizrd> dsfwea23: Do you mean udev?
[03:07] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: my wacom hasn't had any issues.. graphire 4 .. if you're running a tablet are you into photography?
[03:07] <Muelli> Lov255: I don't know the context but dmesg will give you details.
[03:07] <dsfwea23> techwizrd, no I mean HAL
[03:08] <Ameise> how well does Ubuntu work on tablets
[03:08] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, I used inkscape and gimp.  it worked out of the box in 9.04 with just evdev
[03:08] <Ameise> tablet pcs
[03:08] <headkase314> eztop, the prices aren't as low as I hoped - do some comparison shopping with a HD 5670 too!
[03:08] <techwizrd> dsfwea23: Have you tried downloading the latest wacom drivers and installing those?
[03:08] <lov255> ilovefairuz: done
[03:08] <lov255> muelli: ?
[03:08] <Ameise> my girlfriend has a slight issue with Windows on her tablet -- namely she manages to break any security I eer put on it and get trojans
[03:08] <Ameise> so I'm considering Ubuntu
[03:08] <dsfwea23> I'm running the wizardpen driver on 10.04 now but it's buggy and things crash or my mouse (not tablet) stops working
[03:09] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: no errors for both commands? check  iwconfig
[03:09] <Izinucs> dsfwea23: ah.. design stuff.. if you're into photography check out "darktable".. there's a ppa for it..
[03:09] <Wiesshund> zoZo nothing weird, its normal to work unless you start trying to use kernels from a different family , like trying to us an old 2.4 kernel etc. then it might not boot right, still no damage done
[03:09] <dsfwea23> Izinucs, nah, more graphic design
[03:09] <maco> Ameise: trojans are the result of gullibility. user education is what's really needed for them
[03:09] <maco> Ameise:  it *is* entirely possible (ie, has happened) that someone could tell her to run a malicious command
[03:10] <lov255> ilovefairuz: no erros - still no wireless
[03:10] <dsfwea23> I don't care so much but it was working perfect in 9.04.  So I filed bugs in 9.10 when it came out and they just deleted the bugs when 10.04 came out
[03:10] <dsfwea23> and it still doesn't work well.  The new xinput stuff that replaced hal is buggy yet again.
[03:10] <Ameise> maco - it's more, the tends to say 'yes' to those popups
[03:10] <lov255> ilovefairuz: Just a shot in the dark but what if we add it to /etc/network/interface   ?
[03:10] <Ameise> i have no idea HOW she bypasses what i put on ther
[03:10] <Ameise> but she does.
[03:10] <Ameise> I'm either going to put Windows 7 or Ubuntu on there
[03:10] <reggi> hi folks, a few days ago there was discussion on what was the best distibution of linux for an old laptop (pentium D 1.8Ghz). Can anyone remember which distro was mentioned?
[03:10] <headkase314> Ameise, what kind of tablet?  Any specialized input for it like a touch-screen or a pen?  If so, it may be difficult to get drivers for those parts in Ubuntu.
[03:10] <Ameise> but she needs proper tablet functionality
[03:10] <Ameise> it has a pen
[03:11] <eztop> headkase314:   yeah, I am comparing hd 5670 and nvidia hd 240 ;)
[03:11] <maco> Ameise: mmhmm.... so, like i said, user education
[03:11] <Ameise> i've tried that
[03:11] <Ameise> it failed.
[03:11] <jinxzs> how can i print in this computer in a shared printer installed in windows. i really dont understand in samba documentary
[03:11] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: has nothing to do with it, we need to find the right kernel module
[03:11] <jinxzs> im so newbie
[03:11] <dsfwea23> All I wanted was a stable system.  Even with 10.04 LTS it's still breaks something every other update. >:(
[03:11] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: lsmod | pastebinit -
[03:11] <maco> Ameise: just because there havent been any viruses released in the wild for a few years for linux (which is what people mean by "no viruses") doesnt mean its immune to everything bad on the internet
[03:11] <reggi> hi folks, a few days ago there was discussion on what was the best distibution of linux for an old laptop (pentium D 1.8Ghz). Can anyone remember which distro was mentioned?
[03:11] <ilovefairuz> reggi: try lubuntu
[03:11] <maco> reggi: lubuntu?
[03:11] <headkase314> eztop, when I buy a new system later this year it's going to have a GTX 480 in it and run Windows - just for gaming! I'll probably use this computer I'm typing on right now for everything else just cause I love the Ubuntu! ;) :D
[03:12] <ilovefairuz> !lubuntu  > reggi
[03:12] <Wiesshund> Ameise since a trojan is a legit app (so to speak), no OS is immune if the user is willing to install/run it
[03:12] <reggi> ah i think that was it. thanks maco :)
[03:12] <dsfwea23> so what am I supposed to do to get my desktop back now?
[03:12] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/viWgBh5v
[03:13] <Wiesshund> reggi you could try an older ubuntu dist, or you could try puppy linux
[03:13] <reggi> Wiesshund: linux puppy has gui?
[03:13] <Wiesshund> reggi of course
[03:13] <dsfwea23> Seems there  was only one gnome, gnome-exe-thumbnailer
[03:14] <eztop> headkase314:   i thought you were an ati guy, though!  u changing your mind? lol
[03:14] <reggi> ah thanks Wiesshundi might check out a youtube vid of puppy and install it on a virtual machine
[03:14] <eztop> headkase314:  btw, go for gtx 460 instead
[03:14] <lov255> ilovefairuz: rt2870sta is there..hhhmmmm...weird
[03:14] <headkase314> eztop, I've been Ati for 10 years now but those 480 benchmarks are _smokin'_! ;)
[03:14] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: yeah because we modprobed it
[03:15] <lov255> ilovefairuz: I C
[03:15] <Wiesshund> reggi http://puppylinux.org/news/userfiles/lucid-puppy510-desktop-500px.png
[03:15] <eztop> headkase314:  true... but, it runs hot... gtx 460 close to performance but runs way cooler... newer nvidia cards probably built on that design or at least use part of it
[03:15] <Wiesshund> i believe puppy is based off of ubuntu, atleast partialy
[03:15] <reggi> cool thanks Wiesshund :)
[03:15] <Ameise> maco - well
[03:15] <reggi> Wiesshund: looks good - simple.
[03:15] <eztop> lubuntu is on my laptop... but i might try out xfce some time or xubuntu ...dunno yet
[03:15] <Ameise> it'd still be harder for her to break.
[03:16] <headkase314> eztop, It's still a while off before I put together my next rig.  Perhaps by then an Ati 6000 series will be out and I'll have to think about that too!  Thanks for the 460 tip, I'll check that out too when the time comes!
[03:16] <Ameise> but, we'll see
[03:16] <Ameise> once i blow it away
[03:16] <Ameise> ill put ubuntu on it, see how hard it is to get drivers
[03:16] <eztop> headkase314:  no prob... true... hd 6000 will come out but unfortunately, probably not supported whatever ubuntu ver. is latest... oops ;-)
[03:16] <headkase314> Ameise, do you have Windows restore media in case Ubuntu doesn't work out and you need to reload Windows?
[03:16] <Ameise> maybe ill just put MS DOS on there, and teach her how to use telnet.
[03:17] <Ameise> restore media?
[03:17] <Ameise> err.
[03:17] <Ameise> I do everything myself.
[03:17] <headkase314> eztop, I've read rumors that this fall the 6000 series will be coming to market - maybe early in 2011 at the latest.
[03:17] <Ameise> always.
[03:17] <jinxzs> what driver i will use in T13, there is no such T13 in the list
[03:17] <eztop> i am hoping i can align partition ntfs with ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 gparted... anyone think this can be done?
[03:17] <techwizrd> eztop: Everyone says xfce is so much lighter than Gnome, but I don't really think it is. LXDE is much lighter by far.
[03:17] <Wiesshund> eztop i dont know what you mean by align?
[03:17] <eztop> headkase314:  yeah, but what x.org will ati support with that one?
[03:17] <maco> Ameise: headkase314 means an install cd for windows
[03:17] <Ameise> oh.
[03:17] <Ameise> I have an MSDN subscription.
[03:18] <Ameise> I have a copy of everything.
[03:18] <eztop> techwizrd:  by far?  really?
[03:18] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: sudo modprobe rt2800usb && iwconfig
[03:18] <techwizrd> extop: really.
[03:18] <eztop> tech but, i find lubuntu really buggy...very disappointed with it so far
[03:18] <headkase314> eztop, the new rig is going to be a gaming system so it'll run Windows as it's priority with maybe a dual-boot with Ubuntu.  This machine I'm keeping too and will be my "everything-else" system ;)
[03:18] <lov255> ilovefairuz: lo and eth0 both no wireless extensions
[03:18] <eztop> i don't want to install lxde on ubuntu because this is on my laptop... i don't want all the extra packages
[03:19] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: lsmod | pastebinit -
[03:19] <eztop> headkase314:  that's what i'm building too ...but, i can't afford a super duper gaming card right now..lol
[03:19] <alberto> si
 lxde is sweet, very lite
[03:19] <eztop> also, i'm building with a lot of used components
[03:19] <headkase314> eztop, I hear you - pinching pennies too ;)
[03:20] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz:http://pastebin.com/5EpxeweF
[03:20] <eztop> zoZo:  yeah, i like the de itself...if only lubuntu could be improved... it looks good until you encounter all the bugs
[03:20] <eztop> there's a terminal window bug i reported but still not fixed...
i use it with lenny(sshh! no bugs!)
[03:21] <eztop> well, i will try a live cd of 10.10 to see if there's any change
[03:21] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: sudo ifconfig ra0 up && iwconfig
[03:21] <eztop> zoZo:  same here
[03:22] <Niglop> where can I see some good looking bashrc files?
[03:22] <_genuser_> hello poeple
[03:22] <eztop> i have three partitions, xp, sqeeze lxde (shhhhh)....and lubuntu ;)
[03:22] <SimonSayez> I found the fix to stop Google Earth from crashing on most users Ubuntu Linux 10.0.4 systems
[03:22] <_genuser_> can someone please explain the sound arch on ubuntu?
[03:22] <eztop> headkase314:  yeah, hate to admit it...but, then i volunteered my desktop to a relative's computer that died... but, i am recycling some of the powerful hardware from there...lol
[03:22] <lov255> Ilovefairoz: ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:23] <eztop> and doing a switcheroo
[03:23] <Guest4403> greetings                                                                                                                                                                                       to all
[03:23] <eztop> SimonSayez:  yeah?   how about getting it started?!? lol!
[03:23] <headkase314> eztop, This 4670 I have has an HDMI Adapter, I just may repurpose this computer as a media server plugged into my HDTV, all the ports are there!
 i also like sidux kde light with ceni as the network manager for my Toshiba Satellite M45
[03:24] <eztop> but, yeah, it's crashing for me, too....what is the fix?!??????
[03:24] <SimonSayez> ezrafree, Follow these instructions http://kaliphonia.com/content/notes/how-to-fix-google-earth-crash-on-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[03:24] <SimonSayez> eztop, , Follow these instructions http://kaliphonia.com/content/notes/how-to-fix-google-earth-crash-on-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[03:24] <eztop> i will try it out but alas not in lubuntu right now.... shhhhhh ;)
[03:25] <_genuser_> what is lubuntu?
[03:25] <thune3> _genuser_: for actual architecture the graph on this page is a good intro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio
[03:25] <Guest4403> just popped in to see wat things are like on this
[03:25] <eztop> SimonSayez:  thanks !   something to try now...wooohooo
[03:25] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: so?
[03:25] <eztop> headkase314:  good idea... that's all i'd be buying for now... a htpc calibre card
[03:25] <sarge1221> Hey was wondering if someone could offer some advice on a good ubuntu backup software for the OS?
[03:25] <SimonSayez> eztop, Tell me if it works for you ?
[03:25] <Guest4403> was just checking things out
[03:26] <lov255> Ilovefairoz:<lov255> Ilovefairoz: ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:26] <mjn> hi all...i have a hopefully quick question, if anyone interested?
[03:26] <headkase314> eztop, been a good chat - I gotta go for now: good hunting!
[03:26] <TELL0> sarge1221, back in time
[03:26] <_genuser_> thune3: so pulseaudio is the default in ubuntu? I'll look at the link.
[03:26] <SimonSayez> Google Earth is up and running on my Ubuntu Linux system it works great
[03:26] <_genuser_> thune3: thanks.
[03:26] <eztop> zoZo:  i have sidux on my old desktop...but, haven't updated it... not being used... is sidux still any good?  i had some issues with it but it was interesting ;)
[03:26] <Guest4403> im a newbie lol
[03:26] <eztop> i think it's at 2.6.27 ...lol
[03:26] <mjn> i am a window and ubuntu user, but clueless about macs
[03:26] <lov255> Guest4403: normally the people signing in with Guest are newbies
[03:27] <TELL0> SimonSayez, how you did that?
[03:27] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: go to http://eng.ralinktech.com.tw/support.php?s=2  and download second link
[03:27] <mjn> i have some data from a windows system that i recovered, and want to pass it on to the user, who is now a mac user..
[03:27] <SimonSayez> TELL0, Did it work for you yet ? http://kaliphonia.com/content/notes/how-to-fix-google-earth-crash-on-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[03:27] <Wiesshund> mjn Mac is a playstation with a keyboard <jk> go ahead and ask
[03:27] <Guest4403> just got on ubuntu been wanting to try it so this is my frist time
yeah it has been quite stable lately;)
[03:28] <bsdfreak> Heh.
[03:28] <SimonSayez> I am downloading flv videos from youtube and converting them to mp3s using ffmpeg right now
it actually runs 24/7 at my house
[03:28] <Guest4403> kool
[03:28] <mjn> can i/how can i format a hard drive so that the mac user can read it? will HFS do (which i think just requires gparted?), or does it have to be hfs+?
[03:29] <TELL0> I'll check SimonSayez. Thanks
[03:29] <SimonSayez> TELL0, Good Luck
[03:29] <indrora> mjn: there's a set of tools that do HFS(+) partitions, but iirc, its kinda spotty
[03:29] <mjn> whitedog: actually a netbook
[03:29] <Guest4403> see yall later im going to bed bye fr now
[03:29] <Wiesshund> mjn cant mac read fat32?
[03:29] <eztop> zoZo:  oh?   well, my desktop will be my experimental machine... i'll disk room and enough power... maybe i'll try a fresh install
[03:30] <eztop> anyone use VirtualBox here?
[03:30] <mjn> i don't know...i am mac ignorant...is this a default, or does it depend/
[03:30] <mjn> ?
[03:30] <eztop> better to have multi-partitions when trying distros or use VBox?
[03:30] <_genuser_> thune3: so pulseaudio is stand alone sound architecture? does it replace alsa per the image on the article and fool the apps into thinking they're using alsa? What about side by side with alsa drivers?
[03:30] <Wiesshund> mjn lemme see if mac reads fat32, a cd is also an option
[03:30] <lov255> ilovefairuz: give e a few min I need to down load a decompresser
[03:30] <XuMuK> hi there!
[03:30] <mjn> i thought of the disc option, but it is a lot of data
remastersys is good
[03:31] <Spaztic_One> My windows share folder is failing to "fetch the list" and so I have been unable to access my other computers via my laptop
[03:31] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: tar xvf DPO_RT3070_LinuxSTA_V2.3.0.4_20100604.tar.bz2
[03:31] <Wiesshund> mjn OSX can read and write fat32
[03:31] <_genuser_> thune3: nevermind. I see that it sits on top of the alsa/oss layer providing the pulseaudio layer.
[03:31] <jinxzs> Which one i choose if i install Epson T13. there is no T13 in the list of epson software
[03:31] <zoZo> eztop>definately  give it a try... I would even try a dist-upgrade just for fun.......it would be huge!
[03:31] <XuMuK> I have two layouts on my laptop: spanish and russian and that's all I need, but since not long time there appears US one...
[03:32] <mjn> ok, i will format it that way, instead of ntfs or hfs....thank you for the help whitedog
[03:32] <Wiesshund> mjn you can READ ntfs but not write to it
[03:32] <XuMuK> I try to remove it, but after each reboot it appends there automaticly!
[03:32] <zoZo> eztop>the manual makes most things simple
[03:32] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: cd DPO_RT3070_LinuxSTA_V2.3.0.4_20100604; sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:32] <mjn> got it....thank you so much...i knew one of you would know off the top of your head...
[03:32] <XuMuK> any idea how can I remove it permanently?
[03:33] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: after the install finishes: ./configure && make .. tell me if there are any errors
[03:33] <eztop> zoZo:  yeah, i should do the dist-upgrade for fun...see what happens ;)
[03:33] <mjn> so is /ext3 or 4 even close to the mac format?
[03:34] <SimonSayez> It is so cool running Google Earth on Ubuntu Linux 10.04 without Crashes
[03:34] <Wiesshund> mjn that i do not know
[03:34] <lov255> just as I thought I do not have tar
[03:34] <magicianlord> eztop: it just upgrades the kernel
[03:34] <eztop> i have a separate grub partition but not operated via sidux so nothing would get broken that would cause trouble... except maybe booting to it haha
[03:34] <thune3> _genuser_: i'm not an expert, it does to alsa interception at the library layer (i think)
[03:34] <whileimhere231> Hi. Is it possible to boot directly into X and then startup a program automatically without the need for all the desktop stuff?
[03:34] <mjn> well, thank you for your willingness and ability to help....saved me a lot of random searching
[03:34] <jinxzs> How to Install Epson T13 there is no version in epson list of driver
[03:35] <XuMuK> thanks for your help!
[03:35] <Chiggins> How can I force-kill a running program? kill #### wont work for me :(
[03:35] <SimonSayez> jinxzs, Does your Epson t13 come with a USB cable ?
[03:35] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: what ubuntu version are you running that doesn't have tar!
[03:36] <jinxzs> yea it is but is it in the other computer. its shared.
[03:36] <Wiesshund> whileimhere231 its possible yes, youd need to have it auto logon
[03:36] <Wiesshund> whileimhere231 and of course set the session to be the app you want run
[03:36] <SimonSayez> jinxzs, Did you plug in your printers USB cable and reboot your system it should detect it
[03:37] <mjn> WeissHund rocks!...late!
[03:37] <jinxzs> @simonSayez is that the only way to install it? we want to just share it..
[03:37] <lov255> ilovefairuz: 10.04
[03:37] <lov255> ilovefairuz: I have to redownload
brush up with the manual on how to goto init3 and do the dist-upgrade with the -d switch and all that
[03:38] <Wiesshund> Chiggins killall -9 appname ?
[03:38] <SuperMiguel> whats a good word processor for engineers???
[03:38] <jinxzs> @SimonSayez there is no driver of T13 in the epson lists
[03:38] <lov255> ilovefurz: Okay it is extracted
[03:38] <Raydiation> hi is 10.04.1 out yet?
[03:38] <maco> SuperMiguel: i suspect many engineers would be familiar with using LaTeX for typsetting (physicists and mathematicians as well) rather than a word processor
[03:39] <SimonSayez> jinxzs, Does Ubuntu Linux detect your printer when you plug it into your system and reboot ?
[03:39] <Chiggins> Wiesshund - Nope. Its conky, if that helps
[03:39] <SuperMiguel> maco actually whats what i was looking for :)
[03:39] <traviscj_> maco +1
[03:39] <SuperMiguel> maco didnt remember the name
[03:39] <Raydiation> SimonSayez: it should detect it automatically
[03:39] <maco> yay i win
[03:39] <SimonSayez> Raydiation, that is what I am trying to tell jinxzs
[03:40] <sacarlson> wow rt73 wifi is now plug and play on ubuntu 10.04 for me.  it was broken in 9.1 for me now magic it works.
[03:40] <Raydiation> SimonSayez: what printer does he have?
[03:40] <lov255> what is rt73 wifi?
[03:40] <lov255> is that  a card?
[03:40] <jinxzs> its T13 and its not physically connected in this computer..its shared
[03:40] <SimonSayez> Raydiation, Some kind of Epson Printer T13 model ???
[03:40] <sacarlson> rt73 is a chipset in wifi.  I saw someone with rt wifi problem so I had to see if mine was working
[03:40] <lov255> ilovefairuz: I have it extracted
[03:41] <Raydiation> jinxzs: shared via samba or is it a network printer
[03:41] <TELL0> SimonSayez, where did you get the Google Earth installer? At Google Earth page?
[03:41] <jinxzs> im newbie. i already installed samba. what am i gonna do next?
[03:41] <sacarlson> rt73 is one of those usb wifi dogles  the vendor on mine is tplink
[03:41] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: cd DPO_RT3070_LinuxSTA_V2.3.0.4_20100604; sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:41] <SimonSayez> TELL0, Click here http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[03:41] <lov255> what is samba
[03:41] <Raydiation> jinxzs: describe exactly where and how your printer is connected
[03:41] <Raydiation> Lov255: windows shares
[03:42] <TELL0> SimonSayez, thanks
[03:42] <jinxzs> i have 2 computer. 1 server 1 client. the printer is on the server. i want to shared it with this computer.
[03:43] <jinxzs> btw the server is Windows
[03:43] <Raydiation> jinxzs: if you go to system -> system -> printing you can add a printer
[03:43] <lov255> ilovefairuz: it can not find file
[03:43] <Raydiation> jinxzs: look at network printer and windows printer via samba
[03:44] <lov255> ilovefairuz: that file is not in that dir
[03:44] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: where did you extract it? just cd into it
[03:44] <lov255> yeah I am in the dir
[03:44] <jinxzs> i am here at choosing the driver but i dont see the T13 driver
[03:44] <lov255> I am looking in it, that file is not in there
[03:45] <Raydiation> jinxzs: did you see the input directory SMB Printer smb://
[03:45] <SimonSayez> TELL0, Did you get Google Earth up and running yet ?
[03:46] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: what file? it's a directory? ls | pastebinit -
[03:46] <Raydiation> jinxzs: http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2250/h46o888b_png.htm
[03:46] <sacarlson> SimonSayez: TELL0: ya that same place I got google earth it works for me on ubuntu 10.04  and before that it worked on 8.04
[03:46] <mjn> hey WeissHund....a hitch:  went to reformat that disc, and I was formatted FAT32..
[03:46] <jinxzs> yea i just browse it to the printer (server)
[03:46] <SimonSayez> sacarlson, Thanks
[03:46] <lov255> ilovefairuz: sorry
[03:47] <lov255> ilovefairuz: installing right now
[03:47] <jinxzs> the only problem is what driver i would use since there is no T13
[03:47] <mjn> what's me next best option? (please don't say disc)...I have a working Windows system, if that helps
[03:47] <zruty> 10:04 power management: Dim display when idle - does not seem to work. What can I check?
[03:47] <zruty> Or rather, unchecking that option does not seem to work...
[03:48] <bsmith093>  is there a way to make the encoding detection a little smarter? I can read files perfectly well in open office, but in gedit i get ecoding not detected erors,
[03:48] <hariom> Is it possible to upgrade Hardy installed as Guest OS on VMWare to 10.04 LTS?
[03:48] <whileimhere231> wiesshund Thanks how do I set the session to be the app I want to run? I can get something like fluxbox to start and then start the program but I would like to forgo the extra added desktop to just boot into the program itself in fullscreen.
[03:48] <_joey> how do I install true type fonts
[03:49] <lov255> ilovefairuz: it is installed
[03:49] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: type: make
[03:49] <Wiesshund> whileimhere231 i think you can make a desktop file for the app in /usr/share/xsessions, and then have the auto logon use that for its default session
[03:50] <_joey> what is the fiefox package name? :)
[03:50] <Blue1> !googleearth
[03:50] <skumara> i get these error every time i start computer. http://pastebin.com/3eFkj1Y9 i have tried reinstalling grub2 but the error still happen. I need to type ls /dev/sda6 every time to start ubuntu. but i can start windows without problem. and my cdrom also not detected in ubuntu. help please
[03:50] <mjn> hariom..i did run across some instructions at somewhere on the regular upgrade, but i didn't have to do that, and was pressed for time, so i'm sorry, but i don't know the specifics
[03:51] <Spaztic_One> My windows network folder is failing to "fetch the share list" and so I have been unable to access my other computers via my laptop
[03:51] <mjn> my experience with vmware is, that were you to find those instructions, it should pretty much work the same as if it wasn't a virtual machine
[03:52] <SimonSayez> Hey bot, this is the Google Fix to stop Google Earth from crashing on Ubuntu Linux 10.04 http://kaliphonia.com/content/notes/how-to-fix-google-earth-crash-on-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[03:53] <lov255> ilovefairuz: it go to stage two then cp: cannot create regular file `/tftpboot`: Permission denied make: ** [LINK] Error 1
[03:53] <elitexray> Ubuntu is fun to learn engineering software :P
[03:54] <skumara> anyone got any idea with my problem?
[03:54] <lov255> ilovefairuz: should I   sudo make?
[03:55] <Raydiation> jinxzs: hm, im not sure which printer you should select
[03:55] <sacarlson> skumara: at boot can you hold shift and pick another kernel to boot from than the default?  make sure you install you grub2 to the sda1 disk also.
[03:55] <thune3> SimonSayez: isn't libGL.so.1 a driver/hardware dependent file. How can your solution be universal (and running some random library seem to violate my security sensibilities).
[03:55] <Raydiation> jinxzs: i dont see support for linux drivers on their hp too http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/ink/DL1.do
[03:55] <mjn> skumara, not really but maybe....back up a little about your system info....
[03:56] <mjn> you're running a dual boot ubuntu/windows?
[03:56] <jinxzs> weeeeeeeeee thanks to both of you its working now.. i just use the T20 ang set the passwords..
[03:56] <skumara> sacarlson i have two kernal modules and tried both. its the same error
[03:56] <skumara> mjn i dont understand. what do u want actually?
[03:56] <jinxzs> Oh my gosh its working now..
[03:57] <Raydiation> jinxzs:  :)
[03:57] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: no, just: make
[03:57] <lov255> ilovefairuz: I did sudo make...it is done
[03:57] <skumara> my grub2 is installed on sda1.
[03:57] <lov255> ilovefairuz: it wanted to stick some directory in root
[03:57] <mjn> im probably over my head here, but if i can help, i'll at least try; and if not i'll try to stay outta your way...
[03:58] <lov255> ilovefairuz: now what?
[03:58] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: man i told you just make
[03:58] <lov255> ilovefairuz: sorry did it before you responded, we should be good though?
[03:58] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: anyway, type: ls *.ko and see what shows up
[03:58] <skumara> mjn iḿ running dual boot. my sda 1 is boot device and it has windows. my sda2 is my windows d: drive. my sda6 is ubuntu parttion and this where my ubuntu is.
[03:58] <mjn> your running a dual boot system with ubuntu and windows side-by-side?...and the grub error occurs when you try to boot to ubuntu, and the error occurs, where?...
[03:58] <shsek> should I be worried about "could not access PID file for nmbd" during boot if everything seems to be working fine?
[03:58] <sacarlson> skumara: maybe problem in /etc/fstab  try change that id number thing to the /dev/sdax format
[03:59] <Blue1> what's the trick to getting GoogleEarthLinux.bin to run?
[03:59] <Blue1> tried chmod +x
[03:59] <lov255> ilovefairuz: nothing...scratching my head it must not have compiled?
[04:00] <Quantum> Blue1, http://kaliphonia.com/content/notes/how-to-fix-google-earth-crash-on-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[04:00] <sacarlson> skumara:  so I guess you can change the /etc/fstab file root mount to /dev/sda6
[04:00] <Quantum> Blue1, Bookmark the page hit Control-D http://kaliphonia.com/content/notes/how-to-fix-google-earth-crash-on-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[04:00] <Blue1> Quantum: trying now thanks
[04:00] <Quantum> Blue1, np
[04:00] <skumara> sacarlson, yes. I can change it to /dev/sda6. but isn it uuid is better.
[04:00] <thune3> Quantum: isn't libGL.so.1 a driver/hardware dependent file? How can your solution be universal? (and running some random library seem to violate my security sensibilities).
[04:01] <Quantum> thune3, It works
[04:01] <sacarlson> skumara: well in thery yes but it seems it can't find it
[04:01] <Blue1> Quantum: nope still get command not found
[04:01] <Quantum> Blue1, is Google Earth installed on your system
[04:02] <skumara> sacarlson, any idea why? and also my cd rom device also missing in ubuntu. i can even open the cd rom lid.
[04:02] <Blue1> Quantum: ltr GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[04:02] <Blue1> -rwxr-xr-x 1 nwayno nwayno 31388873 2010-06-11 14:00 GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[04:02] <sacarlson> skumara: it could be the sda6 partition is corupted and you could try fsck /dev/sda6
[04:02] <Guest83059> I have a question about 9.10 and logitec wireless ...
[04:02] <Quantum> Blue1, Go here http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[04:02] <Blue1> Quantum: I've done that...
[04:02] <abhijit> hi
[04:02] <netherwolfe> Hello abhijit
[04:03] <Quantum> Blue1, open a command line and type ./googleearth
[04:03] <Quantum> Blue1, I mean a terminal
[04:03] <sacarlson> skumara: sounds like the cd has been mounted as boot device and your running from that so it won't eject
[04:03] <Blue1> Quantum: no directory
[04:03] <Quantum> Blue1, check in /opt for google earth
[04:04] <Quantum> Blue1, cd /opt
[04:04] <skumara> sacarlson, what? how this can happen?
[04:04] <Quantum> http://www.pastebin.com
[04:04] <sacarlson> skumara: corumpted disk?  can hapen from bad power down event or many other things
[04:04] <Blue1> Quantum: just chrome there
[04:04] <abhijit> hi netherwolfe
[04:04] <sacarlson> skumara: if you didn't try the fsck /dev/sda6  you might try that first
[04:05] <Lov255U> found it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:05] <skumara> sacarlson, ok. iĺl try fsck. but my sda6 is mounted. do i need restart in lice cd to do this
[04:05] <skumara> ?
[04:05] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: sudo modprobe ./namehere.ko
[04:05] <sacarlson> skumara: you will have to do it by booting a ubuntu live boot disk
[04:06] <Guest83059> help ??
[04:06] <skumara> sacarlson, ok. thank you. Iĺl reboot now and fsck /dev/sda6 now. thank you.
[04:06] <sacarlson> skumara: good luck
[04:07] <Blue1> Quantum: ./GoogleEarthLinux  -- that uncompresses it...
[04:07] <abhijit> !help | Guest83059
[04:07] <Quantum> Blue1, I thought you knew how to run a .bin file
[04:08] <Blue1> Quantum: I did, but when you put sudo apt-get install in a browser, it's been too long a day....
[04:08] <Guest83059> I have a question about 9.10 and logitec wireless ... I updated from 8.04 => 9.10 but now the wireless kbrd & mouse don't work... how to activate ?
[04:08] <Quantum> Blue1, okay
[04:08] <Quantum> So now you have Google Earth installed on your system right ?
[04:08] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: keeps saying rt3070sta.ko  FATAL: Module rt3070sta.ko not found
[04:09] <Blue1> Quantum: it's installing as we speak
[04:09] <whileimhere231> wiesshund Sorry the internet bumped me did you have a response?
[04:09] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz however I am in the DIR staring at it!
[04:09] <Wiesshund> whileimhere231 i think you can make a desktop file for the app in /usr/share/xsessions, and then have the auto logon use that for its default session
[04:09] <Quantum> Blue1, How old is your computer ?
[04:09] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: add ./ before module name
[04:09] <Blue1> Quantum: 2 years
[04:09] <whileimhere231> wiesshund thanks Ill look into it
[04:09] <Blue1> Quantum: amd64
[04:10] <mjn> anyone here know about cross-platform filesystems?  i'm kind of an idiot, but a basically nice guy that tries not to irritate all that much?
[04:10] <whileimhere231> Would a system be lighter booting into say fluxbox and then auto running a program or into gnome-terminal and then auto launching a program?
[04:10] <Quantum> Blue1, is it a dual core system
[04:10] <sacarlson> Guest83059: I think the wireless keyboard is probly a bluetooth device?
[04:10] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: says same thing
[04:10] <Quantum> Blue1, when it finishes installing type ./googleearth from a terminal
[04:11] <Guest83059> i think so ... not so sure
[04:11] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: use full path to the module, type: pwd, then append this before module name
[04:11] <Blue1> Quantum: all is good except I don't have any of my places...
[04:11] <FreshPrince> i've installed virtualbox with gdebi, now i see a new version of virtualbox is available, so how do i upgrade to this package with gdebi? i already downloaded the deb package
[04:11] <Quantum> Blue1, What ???
[04:12] <Blue1> Quantum: all of the places I "bookmarked" in google earth are gone
[04:12] <abhijit> !bluetooth | Guest83059
[04:12] <sacarlson> Guest83059:  try >system>preferences> blue tooth manager
[04:12] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: append this?
[04:12] <sacarlson> abhijit: Guest83059:  good call that link
[04:13] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: the string that shows up from pwd
[04:13] <Guest83059> ty will read it
[04:13] <Quantum> Blue1, Do you know how to run Google Chrome in incognito mode on startup
[04:13] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: where's the .ko file? what directory ?
[04:14] <Blue1> Quantum: negative.
[04:14] <Quantum> Blue1, make a Google launcher on your desktop do you have one present
[04:14] <Blue1> yes
[04:14] <Lov255U> ilovefair so you want me to do path then ~(filename)?
[04:14] <Blue1> Quantum: yes already there
[04:15] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: in what directory is it? just cd to where it is and type: pwd
[04:15] <hv> how can I find some attributes about a (usb) device to use in udev rules?
[04:15] <Lov255U> yeah I have the dir
[04:15] <ilovefairuz> hv: lsusb
[04:15] <Lov255U> I am in it
[04:16] <Quantum> Blue1, Right click on properties and type /usr/bin/google-chrome --incognito
[04:16] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: paste here: pwd
[04:16] <johnnylee194> Hi, I have an Apache server running on port 80, and a Tomcat running on 8080. Currently I'm using www.domain.com:8080/project to access my tomcat project, how can I config to use www.domain.com to access my tomcat project directly? thanks a log
[04:16] <Quantum> Blue1, put the word --incognito after /usr/bin/google-chrome
[04:16] <Blue1> Quantum: what does that do?
[04:16] <Wicked> hmm hello all. im using ufw and i had a rule to allow ssh over ipv6...but i now removed the rule...but when i scan with nmap to verify..its showing as filtered...id really prefer it to not send anything back so it just shows as closed
[04:16] <Quantum> Blue1, then it should stop up in incognito mode means it doesnt record your history aka Porn Mode
[04:17] <Quantum> start up
[04:17] <Blue1> Quantum: ahh got it
[04:17] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: it is /home/lov255/temp/
[04:18] <Quantum> Blue1, Did it work if it worked you should see a guy with little a hat in the left hand corner of Google Chrome
[04:18] <sacarlson> johnnylee194:  well you could just put a forward link in your index.html file to redirect to your other port
[04:18] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: ls -l /home/lov255/temp/rt3070sta.ko .. shows info or an error ?
[04:19] <hv> ilovefairuz: I see, thanks
[04:19] <Lov255U> shows the dir
[04:19] <Lov255U> and file
[04:19] <Lov255U> no error
[04:20] <PeterDrop> hi, i installed a software without a simlyns, where i can find the executable file?
[04:20] <PeterDrop> i can run the software xD
[04:20] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: it should show only ONE line with the file name, does it?
[04:20] <st__> PeterDrop, "which"?
[04:20] <PeterDrop> st__ visual paradigm
[04:20] <PeterDrop> is a uml case tool
[04:21] <PeterDrop> i cant find it
[04:21] <Lov255U> -rw-r--r-- l lov255 lov255 745144 2010-08-12 23:19 /home/lov255/temp/rt3070sta.ko
[04:22] <Quantum> Time to get some sleep
[04:22] <Quantum> Well folks its been real see yah !
[04:22] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: sudo insmod rt3070sta.ko && sudo ifconfig ra0 up && iwconfig
[04:22] <sacarlson> Quantum: nite
[04:23] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz says   insmod: error inserting 'rt3070sta.ko': -1 Device or resource busy
[04:25] <Lov255U> brb ilovefairuz
[04:25] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: sudo rmmod rt2500usb && sudo rmmod rt2870sta
[04:25]  * lap_dragon wonders what would happen if everybody in here talked
[04:26] <Kalidarn> hmm, when i am queuing some music with rhythmbox, any idea why gvfs unmounts my SMB share that i'm queuing from?
[04:29] <sacarlson> ilovefairuz: what version of ubuntu are you playing with there with that rt3070sta thing?
[04:29] <pinPoint> Hey I just ran this command sh -c "sleep 30 && empathy -h &"
[04:29] <pinPoint> twice by mistake, How do I disable the second entry?
[04:29] <ilovefairuz> sacarlson: lucid
[04:29] <sacarlson> Kalidarn: every time you run rythmbox and only that?
[04:29] <Kalidarn> [ 1101.903583] gvfsd-smb[2331]: segfault at 28 ip 0000000000411d04 sp 00007fff9f5d4cd0 error 4 in gvfsd-smb[400000+26000]
[04:30] <Kalidarn> hmm
[04:30] <Kalidarn> found that in messages
[04:30] <Kalidarn> yeah seems to only be sacarlson
[04:31] <lov255> ilovefairuz: sudo insmod rt3070sta.ko works, sudo ifconfig ra0 up   brings back ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:31] <lov255> should add ra0 to interface?
[04:31] <ilovefairuz> lov255: sudo tail -n 100 /var/log/messages | pastebinit -
[04:32] <skumara> sacarlson, are u there?
[04:32] <sacarlson> skumara: yes
[04:32] <skumara> fsck does not help i get error
[04:32] <papna> What's the best way to perform encrypted backups? Should I drive image my drive with the encrypted folders in place or mount an encrypted drive and put the files on it?
[04:33] <sacarlson> skumara: so fsck gave errors?
[04:33] <lov255> ilovefairuz: http://pasebin.com/D9eeNeib
[04:33] <biodegabriel>  http://pastebin.com/D9eeNeib
[04:34] <lap_dragon> how do you take screenshots on ubuntu?
[04:34] <papna> lap_dragon: Hit the print screen button
[04:34] <lap_dragon> oh no ctlr?
[04:34] <sacarlson> skumara: if not then mount /dev/sda6 and change /etc/fstab  and change the root mount to /dev/sda6  and see what that does
[04:34] <Kalidarn> lap_dragon: or use the screenshot util in accessories
[04:34] <jrmy> k who can help me with my gnome issues?
[04:34] <jrmy> im runnign in fail safe cause its not working for some reason
[04:35] <ilovefairuz> lov255: lsmod | pastebinit -
[04:35] <elkclone> lap_dragan : i think there is an app that does it too.
[04:35] <jrmy> even after using recovery mode
[04:35] <Mozlatz> How can I learn the differences between Windows and Linux?
[04:35] <jrmy> updated grub as well
[04:35] <resno> how do i install a minimal ubuntu server? should i use jeos?
[04:35] <ilovefairuz> resno: yes
[04:36] <jrmy> last memory test said all but 1 mb was cached
[04:36] <sacarlson> ilovefairuz: I didn't see you guys try iwconfig  maybe they changed the device name,  mine uses wlan0
[04:36] <elkclone> Mozlatz: by installing ubuntu like i did last night. now I can run both os.
[04:36] <lov255> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/GfaYGqGJ
[04:36] <resno> ilovefairuz: someone told me of another option outside of jeos
[04:36] <Mozlatz> Um, I mean, the technical diffences... file system, imaging tools, etc
[04:36] <ilovefairuz> sacarlson: where are still trying to find the right module
[04:36] <Jordan_U> !minimal | resno
[04:37] <Lov255U> ls
[04:37] <Kalidarn> meh i got no idea why ithappens :P
[04:37] <jrmy> is there a problem with teh encryption of teh file system and thats why it doesnt work?
[04:37] <skumara_> sacarlson, http://pastebin.com/dxNJTess
[04:37] <jrmy> or am i completely screwed?
[04:37] <corpsegrindr> Hi, I just got a linksys AE1000 usb card. I used the ndiswrapper and it seemed to work ok, but every few hours it turns off and i have to reboot once or twice until it will be detected again.
[04:38] <sacarlson> skumara_: what version of ubuntu boot disk are you using to get this?
[04:38] <jrmy> does no one know how to make gnome work?
[04:39] <resno> Jordan_U: is the disk minimal or the actual install minimal?
[04:39] <skumara_> sacarlson, lucid 10.4
[04:39] <sacarlson> skumara_: wow and you sda6 is in ext2 format?  must be old?
[04:39] <ilovefairuz> lov255: cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/modalias | pastebinit -
[04:40] <lov255> kk
[04:40]  * resno chuckles
[04:40] <lov255> brb
[04:40] <lov255> rebooting the system
[04:40] <jrmy> i dont understand why the recovery system didnt work
[04:40] <skumara_> sacarlson, am i missing something? during ubuntu install I manually edit partition and create ext2 partition. my windows in ntfs.
[04:41] <jrmy> mode*
[04:41] <Jordan_U> resno: debian-installer, which is used by the mininal, server, and alternate CDs allows you to make the install as minimal or "bloated" as you want. The minimal iso contains very few packages on the CD itself so it's a smaller download.
[04:41] <resno> thanks Jordan_U ill give it a spin!
[04:41] <sacarlson> skumara_: oh ok well I'm not sure I haven't seen ext2 used for some time you might want to reinstall and use ext3 or ext4
[04:41] <jrmy> i swear im gonna have to wait for teh install cd to get here
[04:42] <Jordan_U> resno: You're welcome.
[04:42] <jrmy> though they havent sent me an email about the shippment
[04:42] <jrmy> i never realised how whiney i get
[04:43] <jrmy> till now
[04:43] <jrmy> thats pretty sad
[04:43] <Jordan_U> jrmy: Booting into recovery mode in and of itself does not "recover" anything.
[04:43] <skumara_> sacarlson, whats the advantage of ext3 over ext2?
[04:43] <jrmy> then why did it fix it last time?
[04:43] <jrmy> or seem to do so
[04:43] <jrmy> why im saying gnome doesnt work is because teh panels dont show btw
[04:43] <sacarlson> skumara_: I don't know I'm no expert on that but they keep improving to make files systems more reliable
[04:43] <Jordan_U> jrmy: Did you select any of the options from the rescue mode menu?
[04:44] <skumara_> ok.
[04:44] <jrmy> idk
[04:44] <jrmy> it was about an hour or so ago
[04:44] <Jordan_U> jrmy: What happens when you try to start gnome normally?
[04:45] <jrmy> it starts up i see the cursor
[04:45] <sacarlson> skumara_: really old files systems don't even let you have 1 tera byte disks,  disk keep getting biger and they have to change things
[04:45] <jrmy> makes teh start up noise
[04:45] <jrmy> and i see teh background
[04:45] <LangTuBuon> help me please
[04:45] <jrmy> thats it
[04:45] <lov255> ilovefairuz: heep://pastebin.com/k5BjcFnb
[04:46] <jrmy> oh and teh encryption passphrase prompt well teh first time it was made
[04:46] <jrmy> but yeah
[04:46] <skumara_> sacarlson, thanks. i think i need to upgrade my partition. is there a way to upgrade partition without reformat?
[04:46] <jrmy> i dont get why the panels dotn show
[04:46] <jrmy> i can right click and make a folder and what not but yeah
[04:46] <LangTuBuon> help me please
[04:46] <sacarlson> skumara_: if there is something you need on the disk you can also try another supperblock number but I don't know what the numbers are I forget
[04:46] <maurer_> How do I set which version of autoconf my system invokes by default?
[04:47] <sacarlson> skumara_: no you need to reformat
[04:47] <skumara_> sacarlson, ok than. i need to backup first...
[04:48] <LangTuBuon> có ai ngu’ò’i viêt nam hôk ?
[04:48] <shsek> should I be worried about "could not access PID file for nmbd" during boot if everything seems to be working fine?
[04:48] <jrmy> when i installed i selected the erase and install option so i dont think that has anything to do with teh problem
[04:48] <lov255> ilovefairuz: that is http://pastebin.com/k5BjcFnb
[04:48] <Wiesshund> er ubottu know cantonese?
[04:48] <sacarlson> skumara_: so there is something you created on that partition that you want to save?
[04:49] <rww> ubottu: vn | LangTuBuon
[04:49] <tewi> hello linux bros
[04:49] <LangTuBuon> thanks rww
[04:49] <jrmy> and before when it last stopped working before i reinstalled i tried loading a game that made it freeze
[04:49] <jrmy> so i rebooted
[04:49] <jrmy> and when i logged in gnome didnt work right again
[04:50] <jrmy> so i decided to reinstall
[04:50] <jrmy> but its still not
[04:50] <Gnea> HI all, trying to burn an .iso image to a USB device, but cdrecord doesn't seem to be able to see it, is this even possible?
[04:50] <Wiesshund> Gnea trying to make a live USB drive?
[04:50] <corpsegrindr> Is it possible that i would get a more stable wifi connection using wep instead of wpa2? or would that have nothing to do with my disconnects?
[04:50] <sacarlson> skumara_: here an option to restore your super block http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806-4073/6jd67r9m1?a=view
[04:50] <z340> use dd to write an iso to usb
[04:51] <jrmy> maybe my harddrive is messed up
[04:51] <Gnea> Wiesshund: trying to write hiren's bootcd to it
[04:51] <jrmy> because of what happened
[04:51] <z340> dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX
[04:51] <jrmy> i really dont get it
[04:51] <Gnea> yeah, tried that, no go
[04:51] <jrmy> im way to much of a linux noob to figure any of this out
[04:51] <Wiesshund> Gnea you could try using unetbootin, dont think it cares what ISO you use
[04:52] <jrmy> are any of the other os' easier to use?
[04:52] <tewi> ##furry
[04:52] <jrmy> or have less problems
[04:53] <resno> jrmy: no os is perfect
[04:53] <Wiesshund> jrmy ubuntu is probably one of the easiest to use linux distros out.
[04:53] <jrmy> why havent i ever had a problem like this with windows?
[04:53] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: go to the folder of the driver we downloaded, find the file os/linux/rt3070sta.mod.c .. open it with gedit, you'll find a lot of device ids, add yours to the end: MODULE_ALIAS("usb:v1737p0078d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*") ... then in terminal type again: make
[04:54] <jrmy> and i dont know what distro means
[04:54] <Wiesshund> jrmy think of distro as brand i guess
[04:54] <jrmy> or make/model
[04:55] <corpsegrindr> jrmy: Its the distrobution name, such as karmic koala or lucid lynx
[04:55] <jrmy> i'll think of it as cars
[04:55] <ilovefairuz> Lov255: its "MODULE_ALIAS("usb:v1737p0078d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*");" note the semi-colon at the very end
[04:55] <resno> jrmy: well linux/ubuntu isnt for everyone and every use
[04:55] <resno> corpsegrindr: karmic koala, isnt the distro name. thats ubuntu/ suse/ etc.
[04:55] <corpsegrindr> resno: bah, yeah its late sry
[04:56] <resno> corpsegrindr: :-)
[04:56] <jrmy> well i dont like teh idea of spending $400 on an os
[04:56] <resno> jrmy: there are multiple car makers. there are multiple linux versions (distros) ubutnu/suse/fedora/ etc
[04:56] <jrmy> when i can get one for free
[04:57] <jrmy> or 200
[04:57] <jrmy> how ever much
[04:57] <resno> because its free it takes some work to make it perfect.
[04:57] <i-am_ur-PALLADIU> hhhheeemmmm
[04:57] <ilovefairuz> jrmy: and it's a lot more "free" than what you think http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[04:57] <elkclone> im am sitting in the dark ffs.
[04:57] <SpiderDan> I copied .gtk-bookmarks from my home directory to /etc/skel so that it would propagate to new users, but the system does not correctly adjust the path.  Manually editing the file to point to /~/ instead of /home/me/ doesn't work.
[04:57] <Wiesshund> jrmy didnt see your problem, but sounded like you had some kind of spontaneous failure? if its hardware related, even windows will crash from it
[04:57] <a3ropunch> am n3wbi3
[04:58] <SpiderDan> How can I resolve this?
[04:58] <Lov255U> the file is not writable only readab le
[04:58] <jrmy> well my audio card, and ethernet card work
[04:59] <jrmy> so unless its with something on the motherboard
[04:59] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: did you extract as root?  anyhow, chmod -R a+rwx .
[04:59] <jrmy> perhaps i try reinstalling without encryption?
[05:00] <sacarlson> SpiderDan:  maybe use a symbolic link?
[05:00] <LangTuBuon> -=Bây giò’ là=-=11:00:00 (GMT +07:00)=-=Thú’ Sáu=-=13/08/2010=-
[05:00] <LangTuBuon> Ke² khen ta, khen ðúng là ban ta - Ke² çhê ta, çhê ðúng là thâ`y ta - Ke² khen ta, khen không ðúng là ke² thù çµa² ta.
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> Lov255U, be careful with ilovefairuz suggestion above, not really idea to set everything as executable...
[05:00] <jrmy> and btw my cd isnt a prefect copy thats why i think i need to use recovery mode
[05:00] <Wiesshund> jrmy can be many many things, instability in ram or cpu, bad power, hardware timed beyond specs (over clock) etc etc, i missed what your original trouble was
[05:00] <xangua> jrmy: did the sound and internet work in the live cd session¿
[05:00] <SpiderDan> sacarlson: What, specifically, are you suggesting?
[05:00] <ilovefairuz> ZykoticK9: that x wasn't needed yes (just typed it so) but they are C files so it's meaningless
[05:00] <afr0beatz> i need help
[05:00] <xangua> jrmy: perfect copy¿
[05:01] <xangua> !ask | afr0beatz
[05:01] <Wiesshund> LangTuBuon i dont think anyone here speaks vietnamese, can you ask in english?
[05:01] <jrmy> well i didnt configure prferences at teh time i tried that back 4 days ago
[05:01] <jrmy> but teh ethernet card worked
[05:01] <a3ropunch> how to change admin password,i use karmic koala??
[05:01] <jrmy> well i think the cd isnt exactly how its suppose to be
[05:02] <jrmy> i think some small portions are missing
[05:02] <jrmy> otherwise i thihnk it would work correctly
[05:02] <elkclone> ok dl some ubuntu books.
[05:02] <resno> a3ropunch: open termianl. type pwd and type new password.
[05:02] <sacarlson> SpiderDan: I'm not I don't really know I don't fully understand the problem or what the skel does if it's a script or what.
[05:02] <Mercuryman> Apparently ubuntu one sync of contacts has been down.  Any idea when it will be up?
[05:02] <jrmy> btw what am i suppose to do when the terminal thing boots after recovery is done
[05:02] <elkclone> I <3 ubuntu
[05:02] <ZykoticK9> resno, pwd = present work directory, did you mean passwd?
[05:02] <jrmy> and you select resume with normal boot
[05:02] <jrmy> ?
[05:03] <resno> ZykoticK9: heh, yes i did thanks :)
[05:03] <afr0beatz> so i hv jst upgraded to ubuntu 10.04, but i hv this problem my computer keeps freezing and restarting automatically, i have run linux anti vruses i can find but none show a virus. so wats wrong?
[05:03]  * resno sighs
[05:03] <jrmy> i enter my user and pass but i cant get it to go to teh normal login screen its justr in teh black screen terminal mode
[05:03] <jrmy> or whatever it is
[05:04] <jrmy> so i eventually hit ctrl alt dlete
[05:04] <jrmy> to make it restart
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> jrmy, try to cut down on the enter key if possible...
[05:04] <jrmy> when it loads up it says error unknown command terminal
[05:04] <jrmy> sorry its a habit
[05:04] <ilovefairuz> !enter | jrmy
[05:04] <Wiesshund> jrmy what makes you think your CD is "missing parts" ?
[05:05] <sacarlson> afr0beatz: maybe run from a live boot cd in fact an older one and see if you restart problem persist to find out if the problem is hardware or not
[05:05] <jrmy> it says error after restarting after its complete with installation
[05:05] <cannonfodder> hey you guys, i bought an asus eee pc. it has no disc drive and i have no usb. it has windows 7..is there a way i can split the disc into 2 partition and insta
[05:05] <jrmy> at that point it ejects the cd
[05:05] <cannonfodder> install a boot sector?
[05:05] <Wiesshund> cannonfodder unetbootin is what you want
[05:06] <xangua> !wubi | cannonfodder
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> !dualboot | cannonfodder
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> cannonfodder, don't use wubi if you don't have too
[05:06] <Wiesshund> Dont use wubi if you dont have to
[05:06] <resno> Wiesshund: ZykoticK9: is wubi not reliable?
[05:06] <Wiesshund> wubi is vewy ebil
[05:06] <jrmy> oh yeah and when it says error its a long list
[05:07] <cannonfodder> ubottu, will it create dual boot?
[05:07] <ilovefairuz> cannonfodder: yes
[05:07] <xangua> why don't you write in an english we can all understand¿ i mean plain english
[05:07] <ted__> Can I install 10.04 from DVD without re-partitioning the disk?
[05:07] <ZykoticK9> resno, wubi makes ubuntu rely on windows - does that sound like a good idea to you?
[05:08] <sacarlson> cannonfodder: you have no sub flash drive?  you could do a pxeboot if you have another computer to use to support boot off lan
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> cannonfodder, as ubottu relied - ubottu isn't a real person - she's a bot.
[05:08] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: I am getting Make: *** No rule to make target '/os/linux/config.mk'. Stop.
[05:08] <sacarlson> cannonfodder: sorry usb flash drive you don't have one?
[05:08] <resno> ted__: unless you install it on a virutal machine. if you are dual booting, you will ned to repartiton
[05:08] <cannonfodder> sacarlson not atm
[05:08] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: cd ../../
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> ted__, or use Wubi (not the best idea)
[05:09] <shubbar> virtualbox says my cpu does not support VT-x, but its a new cpu intel core due 2 e7500
[05:09] <ted__> resno: I compiled GnuPG 2.0.16 and my login screen went away...
[05:09] <cannonfodder> i was thinking though that i can slit my partition then install a boot sector into the new artition so it can install ubuntu netbook
[05:09] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: do 'make' in the initially directory containing all files not os/linux
[05:09] <cannonfodder> ubuntu netbook edition
[05:09] <sacarlson> cannonfodder: well then pxeboot is your only posible option if you have anther computer that can suport it like windows or linux system
[05:09] <jrmy> whats teh channel for US, PA?
[05:09] <ted__> I did this to both of my Ubuntu machines...
[05:09] <cannonfodder> guess ill just have to buy a flash drive lol'
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> shubbar, check "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[05:10] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: all set with that now?
[05:10] <ted__> If I can get the login GUI back, that's all that's necessary.
[05:10] <jrmy> i mean whats teh channel for ubuntu for pennsylvania
[05:10] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: did you type make? did it finish with no errors?
[05:10] <lov255> same error as before with not being able to put files in root
[05:10] <abhijit> jrmy, channel are categories as per language. which langugae is spoken in pennsylvania?
[05:11] <jrmy> english
[05:11] <lov255> but the driver we need is compiled
[05:11] <abhijit> jrmy, then this is the channel only
[05:11] <abhijit> !irc | jrmy
[05:11] <sacarlson> cannonfodder: oh ya it still runs windows so you could repartition with partition magic and install with wubi
[05:12] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: good, sudo rmmod rt3070sta && sudo ismod os/linux/rt3070sta.ko
[05:12] <KE1HA> jrmy, try #ubuntu-us-pa
[05:12] <ted__> resno: I'm sure the answer is simple.  I just eludes me.
[05:12] <abhijit> jrmy, ther is #ubuntu-us
[05:12] <jrmy> thanks abhijit
[05:13] <abhijit> jrmy, http://www.ubuntu-us.org/
[05:13] <Lov255U> back to dose not existg in /proc/modules
[05:13] <rww> jrmy: #ubuntu-us-pa
[05:13] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: cd os/linux, sudo insmod rt3070sta.ko
[05:13] <ted__> resno: X comes up, but no signin screen.  I'm hoping that it can be fixed from the command line.
[05:14] <abhijit> jrmy, http://ubuntupennsylvania.org/
[05:14] <jrmy> rww :thanks but im there already
[05:14] <resno> ted__: i dont aynthing about fixing that, sorry
[05:14] <rww> abhijit: United States LoCos are per state, not per country/language.
[05:14] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz that worked
[05:14] <ted__> resno: Thanks, anyway...
[05:14] <abhijit> rww, hmm ok
[05:14] <Tomwa> Can someone answer me this: If I want to try multiple Disto's (I want Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and Xubuntu) is it better to install Ubuntu and the install KDE and XFCE or install them all seperately?
[05:14] <lap_dragon> sudo apt-get intall the game
[05:14] <lap_dragon> er
[05:14] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: sudo ifconfig ra0 up && iwconfig
[05:14] <lap_dragon> wrong channel sorry
[05:15] <abhijit> Tomwa, seperately is very much better.
[05:15] <resno> Tomwa: the main difference is just the gui
[05:15] <shubbar> ZykoticK9, i couldn't tell if it support VT-x  http://pastebin.com/G9uiLTz1
[05:15] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[05:15] <resno> Tomwa: you can install them on one machine and switch between them
[05:15] <Tomwa> Abhijit: What difference is there?
[05:15] <KE1HA> Tomwa, I have a box set up similarly, several /root partitions one fer each distro. Works pretty good.
[05:16] <sacarlson> Tomwa: you can try them all in virtualbox from a standard ubuntu-desktop install
[05:16] <Tomwa> So many people at once @.@
[05:16] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: give me two sec brb
[05:16] <z340> Tomwa: you can twy them all together, just will ccause some theme problems, and a bunch of redundant underlying bits (screen saver, network manager applet) and is a bit cumbersome
[05:16] <abhijit> Tomwa, they dont messes up eath other! :P
[05:16] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: dmesg | tail -n 50 | pastebinit -
[05:16] <Suit_Of_Sables> So, in my attempts to set up an osx/linux dual boot machine I followed several guides but it seems I must deviate from them a bit as I need a pure GPT partition table and not a hybrid. if I want seperate /boot, /root, /home, and swap partitions for Linux and OSX requires it's own Partition as well as one for the EFI. Thats 6 partitions and the hybrid MBR/GPT is limited to 4! :(   after using parted to make partitions for the 
[05:16] <Suit_Of_Sables> i need for linux I am told I need to sync my two partition tables with rEFIt!? wah! what was it that created the MBR partition table thus mucking up my pure GPT. any ideas? The bottom line is, I don't want to be limited to 4 partitions
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> shubbar, it's the "flags" line you want - and it doesn't look like your CPU support virtualization i'm afraid.
[05:17] <brandon__> can anyone tell me why my custom mouse theme doesnt work over every window
[05:17] <xangua> brandon__: restart your user session
[05:17] <shubbar> ZykoticK9, too bad, it was listed on wikipedia that it support virtualization
[05:17] <brandon__> xangua thats not the problem
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> brandon__, turn off compiz and i bet you mouse theme works properly.  no solution.
[05:17] <brandon__> its been like this for months
[05:18] <brandon__> theres n o way around that ZykoticK9 ?
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> brandon__, not that i know of.  compiz seems to cause problems with mouse pointer i'm affriad.
[05:18] <Tomwa> Abhijit: How large of a partition do I need for each OS generally I use 70GB partitions for OS's and I use the rest of my main HD for storage but with 4 partitions (Windows 7, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, and Ubuntu) that's 280GB
[05:19] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: catch you up quickly with that I did...when I complied the first time the .ko file was in the destination folder so it did not get made, I deleted the old one and recomlied the new file that we made, sudo rmmod rt3070sta worked now
[05:19] <brandon__> youre right ZykoticK9 it worked, but i gotta choose compiz over the mouse theme :(
[05:19] <abhijit> Tomwa, approx 10gh per OS for normal day to day activito -office work, printing, entertainment, /home depends on user
[05:19] <brandon__> thanks for your help
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> brandon__, i hear that...
[05:20] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: sudo: ismod: command not found
[05:20] <Marco01> hello there. I just bough an Lenovo s10-3 netbook. I tried to install ubuntu from an usb three times today and each time it told me either the usb key was malfuntioning or the hard drive was bad. I ran the ubuntu "disk utility" tests on the usb key and everythig seemed fine. I guess the netbook's hard disk might be Ok since it is running windoze 7 allright. Any hints on how should I get ubuntu into this netbook?
[05:20] <abhijit> Tomwa, its 10GB
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> Lov255U, lsmod for list modules
[05:20] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: sudo insmod rt3070sta.ko
[05:20] <Tomwa> abhijit, really? Windows 7 ate up 90% of it's 70GB just from it's office tools and updates
[05:20] <cheasee> anyone familar with truecrypt? i installed libfuse and dmsetup, created a truecrypt container but after creation it told me "Error: Incorrect password or not a TrueCrypt volume." trying to mount gives same
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> Lov255U, i think it's modprobe to load stuff
[05:21] <ilovefairuz> ZykoticK9: synonymous
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> ilovefairuz, no ismod command on 10.04
[05:21] <ilovefairuz> INSmod
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> ilovefairuz, no INSmod command on 10.04
[05:22] <jamesw-and-tom> hey
[05:22] <abhijit> Tomwa, actual ideal requirement is not that much. now i tell you my case i have apprx  5 major heavy software and i use my pc for day to day office work, development,programming,entertainment but still my ubuntu partition hardly excced 8 GB. but i need very large space for my /home partition becuase i have ltos of movies and songs
[05:22] <picard1400> hey guys i have LVM encryption on.. and when i try to install a program in GDM
[05:22] <picard1400> it does not appear in my applications thing>>> do i need to change my LVM settings? it seems like nothin' is installin
[05:22] <ilovefairuz> ZykoticK9: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man8/insmod.8.html
[05:23] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz I am getting the No such file or directory again
[05:23] <jamesw-and-tom> i can't get HDMI out to work on maverick, does anyone have any suggestions please? I am using open source drivers and using vga cable for now. not sure if i am using nvidia binaries or not
[05:23] <ljsoftnet> how do i make a window open in a fixed postion?
[05:23] <ZykoticK9> ilovefairuz, insmod is a valid 10.04 command
[05:23] <Tomwa> abhijit, my windows program files are over 180GB lol I had to start moving programs to my storage drive how is linux so lightweight?
[05:23] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: as we did before, cd os/linux
[05:24] <abhijit> Tomwa, because linux uses concept of library sharing. thats why
[05:24] <Lov255U> I get the same thing
[05:24] <KE1HA> jamesw-and-tom, u should ask maverick questions in #ubuntu+1
[05:24] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: paste here: pwd
[05:25] <abhijit> !filesystem | Tomwa also you just look at this:
[05:25] <picard1400> anyone
[05:25] <Lov255U> it is /home/lov255/temp/DPO_RT3070_LinuxSTA_V2.3.0.4_20100604
[05:25] <picard1400> is there a permissions thig i have to set in LVM?
[05:26] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: cd os/linux.. works?
[05:26] <KE1HA> picard1400, when you df is your LVM being listed, as in, can you acess it normally?
[05:26] <kish> is apparmor comparable to selinux
[05:26] <picard1400> oen sec
[05:26] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz: yes but everytime I do the command from there is says that it can not find it
[05:27] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: ls *.ko
[05:27] <Lov255U> if I move the file to /lov255/temp/ it will work, but then I am not sure if it will be able to find the other files
[05:27] <ZykoticK9> Lov255U, are you trying "ismod" or "insmod"?
[05:27] <picard1400> i have to turn the machine on hold on ..
[05:27] <Lov255U> the file is ther...the .ko file
[05:27] <Lov255U> insmod
[05:27] <picard1400> but i mean isnt there a setting or something i have to run to make the stuff permissive or somethin?
[05:27] <KE1HA> ok
[05:27] <ilovefairuz> ZykoticK9: OBVIOUSLY insmod
[05:27] <Tomwa> abhijit: that is fantaaaaaastic
[05:27] <Lov255U> I am doing insmod
[05:27] <abhijit> Tomwa, yay!!!
[05:28] <ZykoticK9> Lov255U, ilovefairuz and insmod is the correct command ;)
[05:28] <Marco01> hello there. I just bough an Lenovo s10-3 netbook. I tried to install ubuntu from an usb three times today and each time it told me either the usb key was malfuntioning or the hard drive was bad. I ran the ubuntu "disk utility" tests on the usb key and everythig seemed fine. I guess the netbook's hard disk might be Ok since it is running windoze 7 allright. Any hints on how should I get ubuntu into this netbook?
[05:28] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: sudo insmod rt3070sta.ko
[05:28] <Tomwa> abjihit: I'm gonna add all three of these Distro's and if all else fails I can always resize partitions right :)
[05:28] <abhijit> Tomwa, yes.
[05:29] <Lov255U> brb
[05:29] <abhijit> Tomwa, got to go. bye.   :)
[05:29] <Tomwa> Abhijit, btw the total count of my windows 7 program files is over 300GB
[05:29] <ljsoftnet> how do i make a window open in a fixed postion?
[05:29] <Tomwa> peace mate :)
[05:29] <ZykoticK9> Tomwa, installing 3 version of Ubuntu on the same machine is kinda a waste of space, but if you prefer it, and have the space - who cares.
[05:29] <abhijit> Tomwa, :)
[05:29] <Lov255U> Damn me the file is not there!
[05:30] <brandon__> ZykoticK9, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/how-to-change-mouse-cursor-theme-in.html
[05:30] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: you just said the file is there
[05:30] <Tomwa> ZykoickK9, Lol yeah but I like different aspects of them all it's too hard to choose :)
[05:30] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: cd /home/lov255/temp/DPO_RT3070_LinuxSTA_V2.3.0.4_20100604 && make
[05:30] <sacarlson> tomwa: also in virtualbox the diskspace only grows as needed up to the max you will allow.
[05:30] <slgma> works perfect ZykoticK9
[05:31] <Gnurdux> Tomwa, you realize you can install all the packages in all of them in one install, right>
[05:31] <slgma> to change cursor
[05:31] <Lov255U> I just did, I think that error is not letting it be made
[05:31] <Lov255U> errrm
[05:31] <slgma> with compiz enabled
[05:31] <philip___> when I click on Places|Home Folder (or anything) VLC would start up instead of nautilus. What do I do?
[05:31] <picard1400> ok i just got hte machine back online?
[05:31] <ZykoticK9> brandon_ (gone) slgma thanks!
[05:31] <picard1400> what do you guys want me to do to test the LVM
[05:31] <slgma> np zyko, knew someone had to know how to do it
[05:31] <slgma> working perfeclt yo fmr
[05:31] <slgma> for me&*
[05:31] <slgma> just logout
[05:31] <FloodBot2> slgma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <slgma> and back in
[05:31] <slgma> gotta copy the theme folder to /usr/share/icons
[05:31] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: what error?
[05:32] <KE1HA> picard1400, if you not seeing the lvm after boot, or with lvm lvdisplay, just to a sudo lvmchange -a y to activate it.
[05:32] <Tomwa> Sarcarlson, I use Oracle's VB bot I prefer running them seperately, and Gnurdux, I know I can install KDE, XFCE, all under ubuntu but that caused weird problems
[05:32] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: whatever, run it as root as you did first time
[05:32] <distant2> what is wrong with the designers? i'm surprised they placed those window icons on the left like on the mac. now i'm reconsidering my choice of ubuntu.
[05:32] <picard1400> no... like hte i have to type in the password before it boots
[05:32]  * IanWizard want's somethin' good to do with Ubuntu
[05:32] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: unless the error is not about the /tftp stuff
[05:32] <picard1400> so like after bios i type in a password then it starts to load the OS
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> !controls | distant2
[05:33] <Lov255U> OKAY - My bad, sorry for that, it is there now
[05:33] <Lov255U> lets go from this point
[05:33] <IanWizard> picard1400: encrypted partition?  or bios lock
[05:33] <philip___> when I click on Places|Home Folder (or anything) VLC would start up instead of nautilus. What do I do?
[05:33] <sacarlson> Tomwa: ya you don't get the real performance from virtualbox but I like to start there if it looks good then I take another step
[05:33] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: lsmod | pastebinit -
[05:33] <picard1400> IanWizard the partition encryption
[05:33] <picard1400> from the Ubuntu mini iso install option
[05:33] <picard1400> i encryped home directory and the LVM encryption thing
[05:33] <IanWizard> yeah, I just got it setup on mine, congrats
[05:33] <IanWizard> me too
[05:34] <IanWizard> and I encrypted windows with truecrypt
[05:34] <sacarlson> Tomwa: I'm not sure why but virtualbox install is like 10X faster since I install direct from the iso file so it's faster than a real cd
[05:34] <IanWizard> the most someone can do is bootloader and my boot partition
[05:34] <dp_> How do i create  a copy of a folder in linux
[05:35] <ilovefairuz> dp_: cp -R foldername newfoldername
[05:35] <KE1HA> picard1400, ok, and what are you not able to do after the install was complete?
[05:35] <sacarlson> Tomwa: oh and no cd to burn.  but to each his own
[05:35] <distant2> i'd like to know why in the download page it says that 64bit (i have core 2 duo) is not recommended...
[05:35] <IanWizard> dp_: from the command line, or the file manager
[05:35] <Lov255U> http://pastebin.com/0xerTJXv
[05:35] <picard1400> KE1HA ok LVM is running.. but when i install a program... it does not show in my application tab in Gnome
[05:35] <IanWizard> distant2: it's uses more ram, so for everyday use, it's more of a hassle
[05:35] <picard1400> no apps are installed
[05:35] <picard1400> correctly
[05:35] <picard1400> i think the LVM is blocking them or somethjing
[05:35] <FloodBot2> picard1400: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:36] <dp_> commandline IanWizard
[05:36] <IanWizard> distant2: but for heavy number crunching, it's better
[05:36] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: sudo insmod rt3070sta.ko
[05:36] <IanWizard> dp_: cp -R source_dir  dest_dir
[05:36] <KE1HA> picard1400, tha't more likely applicaiton specific, not all installed apps place an icon in one of the menu's which app is not showing up?
[05:36] <ZykoticK9> distant2, see the "bug" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[05:36] <dp_> ok thanks IanWizard :)
[05:37] <Lov255U> insmod rt3070sta.ko worked
[05:37] <picard1400> well its not working either correctly
[05:37] <picard1400> i followed same instructs..
[05:37] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: sudo ifconfig ra0 up && iwconfig
[05:37] <picard1400> once with the LVM all setup
[05:37] <picard1400> the other time no LVM...
[05:37] <FloodBot2> picard1400: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> !enter | picard1400
[05:37] <ljsoftnet> how do i make a window open in a fixed postion?
[05:37] <ilovefairuz> picard1400: group your words on one line and stop using enter
[05:37] <picard1400> the time with NO LVM works fine... the time with LVM the app does not install correctly.. i think there a permissions thing?
[05:38] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[05:39] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: sudo tail -n 100 /var/log/messages | pastebinit -
[05:39] <picard1400> like a way to make LVM enable all install or something?
[05:39] <KE1HA> picard1400, so it's no lvm non encrypted, then lvm encrypted and the problems are on the lvm encrypted install?
[05:40] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: are you sure you have edit and compiled the module correctly because if you didn't, all this will be in vain
[05:40] <Lov255U> http://pastebin.com/Mf9p0cUK
[05:40] <Tomwa> Sancarlson, yeah i have noticed that virtual installations are waaaay faster xp install is like a 3 minute process lol
[05:41] <picard1400> yes
[05:41] <picard1400> i have two installs
[05:41] <KE1HA> picard1400, also, with the no LVM, did you elect encrypted drive there as well? in other worked, it it limited to LVM encrypt only or does the same happen with no LVM and encrypt?
[05:41] <KE1HA> works is it ..
[05:41] <picard1400> no i did one install with the LVM and encrypted drive and the encrypted home directory
[05:41] <Tempus_Fugit> How do i put firestarter in the startup programs??
[05:41] <picard1400> the other drive had no encryption whatsoever
[05:41] <distant2> i don't really understand. well, i know my usage is somewhat particular: i do desktop all right, and also video watching. but, i don't turn off the computer. i just hibernate it. i usually reboot the computer only after two or three weeks (this slows down the software a little, like the browser, not the computer itself). and i have 2gb ~600mh ram, so does this mean that 64 is still not recommended for me?
[05:41] <Rad-> Hey someone told me to rm -rf / and I can't figure out what it did but my computer doesn't work anymore. What do I do?
[05:42] <KE1HA> picard1400, ok, no what apps are you installing that's not showing up on the LVM encrypted setup ?
[05:42] <maco> Rad-: it deletes your entire system
[05:42] <maco> Rad-: thats like deleting C:\
[05:42] <Rad-> What?
[05:42] <Rad-> So that's not good?
[05:42] <ZykoticK9> distant2, if you're willing to do a "little" more work for things - 64bit makes a better desktop then 32bit
[05:42] <maco> Rad-: that person is a jerk
[05:42] <KE1HA> :-) No, not good rad :-)
[05:43] <philip___> good in that you get to install a fresh system :)
[05:43] <maco> Rad-: you need to reinstall the OS
[05:43] <Rad-> Some guy said some mkfs could fix it. Does that work?
[05:43] <Tempus_Fugit> Rad-: Ummmm no you no longer have an OS
[05:43] <Rad-> =\
[05:43] <picard1400> qt-facetrainer
[05:43] <maco> Rad-: they're wrong
[05:43] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: pastebinit rt3070sta.mod.c
[05:43] <picard1400> KE1HA qt-facetrainer is not installing correctly
[05:43]  * Scunizi sniff.... sniff... 
[05:43] <maco> Rad-: mkfs formats the drive. thatd be another round of deletion
[05:43] <Rad-> Dang it.
[05:43] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[05:43] <Rad-> So is there anyway to get my data back?
[05:43] <maco> Rad-: pay a data recovery service $500-$2000?
[05:43] <Tempus_Fugit> Rad-: did you have a back up
[05:43] <phoenix_> i have some problem with aptitude, can anyone help me
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> !anyone | phoenix_
[05:44] <Rad-> *sigh* nvm. i'll cutmy losses see thaks
[05:45] <Tempus_Fugit> How do I put Firestarter in my startup programs?
[05:45] <distant2> ZykoticK9: i don't really understand what you mean by doing a little more work on things (me or the computer, too). (english isn't my native language)
[05:45] <phoenix_> ZykoticK9: thats because one one responds to the question and so i feel that this way is good
[05:45] <z340> Tempus: System: preferences: startup programs
[05:45] <KE1HA> picard1400, ok, im not up to speed on that app. But the no-encrypt v.s. encrypted LVM is what's puzzling me.
[05:45] <Lov255U> the script did not save correctly
[05:46] <Lov255U> brb
[05:46] <ZykoticK9> distant2, 64bit doesn't always work exactly as it should, requires some research/hacking to get "some" stuff working.  64bit just means more troubleshooting then 32bit does...
[05:46] <Tempus_Fugit> z340: yes I did that and it is not in the list and asks for a cmd in which to add it to the startup list
[05:46] <ZykoticK9> phoenix_, i sent the !anyone factoid because you didn't ask a question
[05:46] <phoenix_> ZykoticK9: aptitude is asking me to remove important files, i feel that if it is removed , i wont be able to use the desktop environment
[05:47] <Yud_Zroc> Verson question: 1.8ghz celeron(sc), 1gig memory, intel media gfx card (8mb onbaord intigrated upto 128mb shared) is kubuntu asking too much?
[05:47] <distant2> haha...
[05:47] <KE1HA> picard1400, whar repo did you get the app from, it is a custom compile?
[05:47] <z340> Tempus: enter the command that you like manually
[05:47] <ZykoticK9> phoenix_, what are you removing?  is it saying it will remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[05:47] <IdleOne> phoenix_: what files?
[05:47] <picard1400> yea cutomm
[05:47] <picard1400> here one sc.
[05:47] <Tempus_Fugit> ok tried it time to reboot
[05:47] <Tempus_Fugit> brb
[05:47] <distant2> ZykoticK9: i guess this is just characteristic of ubuntu? or general linux distros? if not, this is somewhat scaring.
[05:48] <picard1400> http://pam-face-authentication.org/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installation_Instructions_2
[05:48] <KE1HA> picard1400, pass, without looking through the app, no way of tellign what's going wrong. are there any Ub-Supported apps not installign correctly ?
[05:48] <philip___> when I click on Places|Home Folder (or anything) VLC would start up instead of nautilus. What do I do?
[05:48] <sacarlson> distant2: I ran 64bit in ubuntu 8.04 and had do many workarounds to make me happy.   I never got my canon printer driver to work.  I had to install dual libs 32bit and 64bit.  it wasn't worth it and later I learned it didn't even speed things if you don't have more than 4 gig ram or like that.
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> distant2, the 64bit thing is a linux issue, not an ubuntu issue
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> distant2, see sacarlson message above
[05:48] <maco> philip___: start nautilus from a terminal, right click a folder, go to properties, set open with nautilus (and um there might be a checkbox to make that permanent)
[05:49] <phoenix_> ZykoticK9: when i started aptitude, it suggested 4 removals , i then examined and saw that , it is recommending to remove "ubuntu-desktop" and the supporting files
[05:49] <phoenix_> IdleOne: those are the files
[05:49] <Wiesshund> distant2 there are lots of existing things in the windows world that dont work in 64bit either, not exactly just a linux thing
[05:49] <distant2> ok, well i understand.
[05:49] <IdleOne> phoenix_: you can safely remove the ubuntu-desktop package
[05:50] <distant2> but i think it's too bad to not be able to profit from faster cpu technology like that...
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> phoenix_, if you remove anything from the "base" ubuntu it will remove the "ubuntu-destkop" metapackage - which can be removed safely... if you need it.  FYI updates will be an issue.
[05:50] <phoenix_> IdleOne: then i wont be able to use the workspace
[05:50] <KE1HA> picard1400, obvious question but, are you sure you have all the build deps met correctly?
[05:50] <picard1400> yes
[05:50] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: don't compile again, i'm compiling it
[05:50] <distant2> Wiesshund: yeah? like? are you talking about win7?
[05:51] <picard1400> i followed the guide exaclty both times
[05:51] <IdleOne> phoenix_: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, a list of packages but when removing it does not remove all the packages in the list
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> phoenix_, i mean updateing from version to version
[05:51] <picard1400> thsi time for some reason
[05:51] <phoenix_> ZykoticK9: so you people say that it is safe to remove it right?
[05:51] <picard1400> not installin (P):
[05:51] <kiba> hey hey hey
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> phoenix_, generally yes
[05:51] <Yud_Zroc> Can't see the list....is ubotu still around?
[05:51] <KE1HA> picard1400, and this is on a modified GMD install as well yes ?
[05:51] <Wiesshund> distant2 any 64bit win.
[05:51] <phoenix_> ok i will try that , thank you ZykoticK9 and IdleOne
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> !bot | Yud_Zroc
[05:51] <IdleOne> phoenix_: welcome
[05:51] <philip___> maco: that did the trick thanks. I don't know how VLC managed to hijack it like that
[05:52] <Yud_Zroc> Yay
[05:52] <picard1400> not really
[05:52] <picard1400> its basic
[05:52] <picard1400> ubuntu server
[05:52] <picard1400> + the wiki guide
[05:52] <FloodBot2> picard1400: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> !enter | picard1400
[05:52] <KE1HA> picard1400, but not a full Gnome or KDE install right?
[05:52] <picard1400> no..
[05:52] <distant2> Wiesshund: can you give me a concrete example? because in the case of software i know that 32bit sw works in 64bit. so where would be the problem?
[05:52] <picard1400> but like i said KE1HA... i have the exact same thing on two machines.. one with the encryption the other without...
[05:53] <KE1HA> picard1400, I'd do like what we talked about last week, and do the Dev work on a full install, then scale it back to what you dont need.
[05:53] <kiba> hey
[05:53] <kiba> My ubuntu netbook is broken
[05:53] <Lov255U> ilovefairuz okay compipled - rmmod rt3070sta.ko worked and insmod rt3070sta.ko works, although sudo ifconfig ra0 up is not working
[05:53] <Wiesshund> distant2 not all 32 bit software works, and 32bit drivers dont work
[05:53] <kiba> I got an empty screen
[05:53] <kiba> can't login or do anything
[05:53] <kiba> I have a xmonad windowing and xmobar status bar setup
[05:53] <kiba> help?
[05:53] <FloodBot2> kiba: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <Lov255U> I just read your comment on you compliinig
[05:53] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: another file needed to be modified, wait
[05:54] <kiba> my login screen is broke and no hint
[05:54] <distant2> Wiesshund: yes, drivers, good point.
[05:54] <picard1400> KE1HA right.. but like i said i did it without any of the fulll install.... without ecryption no probs..
[05:54] <Lov255U> do you want to do the modify and compile cause this is a mess on my system
[05:54] <KE1HA> picard1400, I dont know mate, that does't make sense to me, but there's something in the build that' not rght for encrypted LVM's
[05:54] <picard1400> now i did with ... problems.. has to be something with LVM
[05:54] <picard1400> yea..
[05:54] <picard1400> alrighty i guess no encrypt install
[05:54] <picard1400> is there a way to temporarliy turn off the encryption to see?
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> !enter | picard1400 last time
[05:55] <Yud_Zroc> Do desktop enviornments use video memory or system memory
[05:55] <kiba> so...
[05:55] <phaidonx> Hi. I am about to upgrade to 10.04 from 9.04 but would rather go through a fresh install. I backed up my /home and /etc folder to an external hard drive, but I was just wondering if there was a way of installing the 10.04 as a dualboot to make sure that it works fine on my laptop, and progressively migrate my old /home directory. What steps do I need to take? partition first then install? or will the installer have that as an option?
[05:55] <kiba> no login screen. Just a _ at the top
[05:56] <gryllida> What alternative to Gnome or KDE can you suggest?
[05:56] <rww> phaidonx: the installer should have an option to resize the existing partition
[05:56] <gryllida> They both have lots of redundant features, and are slow.
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> gryllida, fluxbox, xfce, lxde?
[05:56] <sacarlson> phaidonx: ya you can do that.  you will need a free partition to install it on
[05:56] <z340> phaidonx: sure, you might have to resize your drive, and update grub, but the install gui can guide you pretty easily by selecting resize partitions and all that
[05:56] <rww> gryllida: /join #ubuntu-bots; ask "BestBot, what's the best desktop environment?"
[05:56] <KE1HA> gryllida, xubuntu or do a custom build
[05:57] <Lov255U> phaidonx you get the option to do that when you install
[05:57] <kiba> so
[05:57] <kiba> I can't login or do anything on my netbook at all
[05:57] <kiba> zip zero nada.
[05:57] <IdleOne> !details | kiba
[05:57] <kiba> IdleOne: that IS the details
[05:57] <phaidonx> alright, seems like it's an option during install. Great. Now, once I am satisfied with 10.04 and what not, what do I do to get rid of 9.04? just go into GParted and delete the other partition?
[05:57] <kiba> no login screen to look at.
[05:57] <kiba> _ at the top
[05:58] <IdleOne> kiba: what did you do before it stopped working?
[05:58] <lov255> !details | ubottu
[05:58] <Aemaeth> i need my computer to speak to me like a dalek, any support for that?
[05:58] <kiba> I installed erlang
[05:58] <lov255> LMAO
[05:58] <kiba> what?
[05:58] <kiba> it boot up normal..than BAM. give me the black screen with _ at the top.
[05:59] <sacarlson> phaidonx: keep it for a while later when you need space you can reformat it and use it as a data patition or mount it later as your /home folder
[05:59] <st__> why Xorg use half of my CPU when I move mouse?
[05:59] <kiba> wait
[05:59] <kiba> I edited xorg file
[05:59] <lov255> kiba: ywah
[05:59] <lov255> kiba: that happens to me, wait a few seconds
[05:59] <kiba> I can't escape to anywhere
[05:59] <ZykoticK9> kiba, "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig" then restart
[06:00] <kiba> how am I supposed to...
[06:00] <IdleOne> !nox | kiba
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> kiba, can you login with ctrl+alt+f1?
[06:00] <IdleOne> kiba: boot to text mode and then do what ZykoticK9 said
[06:00] <phaidonx> sacarlson: yeah I intend to keep it for a while, but I mean once I copy all of the things I want from my old /home, will it be straightforward to merge the 2 partitions? it won't be an issue that i am deleting the "first" partition with the old 9.04 and keeping the 2nd one? or will GParted figure it out and just merge the two together?
[06:01] <st__> phaidonx, you cannot 'merge' partitions
[06:01] <phaidonx> err, btw, what about the grub? I hear that ubuntu 9.04 uses a different version ... will I still be able to dual boot into 9.04?
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, "team canada" ;)
[06:02] <gary_inNYC> hi, can someone point me to a good guide on what directories to back up and exclude?
[06:02] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: Ubuntu Without Borders.
[06:02] <IdleOne> :)
[06:02] <st__> gary_inNYC, why would you need backup for?
[06:02] <sacarlson> phaidonx: you don't need to merge the partitions you can still mount and access the partititon as it was another directory
[06:02] <gary_inNYC> st__: so i can always go back in case i mess something up
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> gary_inNYC, generally you'd want you home directory and possibly /etc?
[06:02] <lov255> ilovefairuz: I have to get going to sleep it is 1am here and I have to be somwhere in 7 hours - can you either save the file and I will catch up with you tomorrow?  Thanks for all your help...we will get this working :)
[06:03] <ZykoticK9> gary_inNYC, s/you/your
[06:03] <lov255> ilovefairuz: We seem to be on a good track now...
[06:03] <lov255> Night everyone
[06:03] <KE1HA> gary_inNYC, depends on what level of paranoia ya have about recovery, but here's something to consider: http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2280165098.html
[06:03] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: taking forever to upload, edit common/rtusb_dev_id.c and add "{USB_DEVICE(0x1737,0x0078)},"
[06:03] <gary_inNYC> awesome thanks
[06:03] <sacarlson> phaidonx: no the new install will not touch your old install partition.  it will just use a free partition that you create to install on
[06:04] <lov255> ilovefairuz: its okay we can work on it tomorrow I really have to get to sleep, I have to be up in less then 7 hours for a very important day
[06:04] <elkclone> reading wiley. ubuntu linux secrets
[06:04] <sacarlson> ok I got to go eat now.  be back later
[06:04] <lov255> ilovefairuz: thanks I will be on tomorrow night
[06:04] <ilovefairuz> Lov255U: at least try this one
[06:04] <phaidonx> sacarlson: I understand that part. but I eventually envision not wanting to deal with a second partition and just get rid of the old one after I am satisfied with the new release. I would just want to use the space in there and not worry about having to mount it as a different directory..
[06:04] <Jordan_U> Aemaeth: The default male voice for espeak isn't too far off :)
[06:05] <kiba> I tried to swap caps lock to ctrol key
[06:05] <kiba> for my netbook
[06:05] <kiba> since it was hard for me to use my plam to access the left key
[06:05] <kiba> and caps lock I never use anyway
[06:05] <st__> is it normal for xorg to use CPU?
[06:05] <z340> st_: yes
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> st__, of course.  you could try disabling compiz if your currently running it.  X is Xorg or the GUI environment.
[06:06] <Aemaeth> why doesn't mythtv work for me? am I the only one?
[06:06] <Wiesshund> kiba, can you keep your stuff on one line? its hard to follow
[06:06] <st__> isn't compiz hardware accelerated?
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> Aemaeth, Myth is difficult to setup the first time round.  what are you having trouble with?
[06:07] <Aemaeth> it won't play any music, haven't even tried video
[06:07] <kiba> ok
[06:07] <kiba> my configuration for xorg went like this:
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> Aemaeth, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[06:07] <kiba> option  "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch, ctrl:nocaps"
[06:08] <Tempus_Fugit> ok when I go to add something into startup programs and it needs root permission to start how would i add that into startup ... sudo firestarter pw?
[06:08] <Aemaeth> ZykoticK9, yes
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> Tempus_Fugit, that probably won't work - unless you add firestarter to sudoers file
[06:09] <Aemaeth> as far as other programs, (if that matters) video and sound work great (mostly)
[06:09] <Wiesshund> kiba what are you trying to remap from and to ?
[06:09] <z340> Tempus: i don't suggest using the startup programs for running something as root. you should add it to init
[06:10] <kiba> Wiesshund: to ctrl
[06:10] <Wiesshund> kiba what key are you trying to remap to control?
[06:11] <kiba> caps lock
[06:11] <Tempus_Fugit> ZykoticK9: how do I add it to that file
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> Tempus_Fugit, sorry - i'm gonna take a pass on those directions - best of luck.
[06:11] <Wiesshund> kiba in terminal reun xev, hey caps lock a few times and note the keycode number.
[06:11] <Tempus_Fugit> ZykoticK9: ok ty
[06:12] <KE1HA> Tempus_Fugit, are you sure the app needs "root" permission and not sudo permission to start ?
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, sudo = root ... just sayin'
[06:13] <Wiesshund> kiba then do xmodmap -e "keycode (code you noted) = Control_L" or Control_R either one
[06:14] <KE1HA> ZykoticK9, Yes, I know that, but to get it fired up at stat should be with sudo not root.
[06:15] <Tempus_Fugit> KE1HA: from my understanding ubuntu does not offer root permission only sudo
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, BUT sudo will require a password - thus the problem
[06:15] <linux_f> sdffffffffffff
[06:15] <linux_f> hello
[06:15] <linux_f> anybody here
[06:16] <linux_f> fuck
[06:16] <Tempus_Fugit> linux_f: nope
[06:16] <sacho> !ask | linux_f
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> linux_f, 1306 people
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> !language | linux_f
[06:16] <KE1HA> Tempus_Fugit, Have a read here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo   and Here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firestarter
[06:16] <Tempus_Fugit> KE1HA: looking now ty
[06:16] <KE1HA> You can do this with system init's
[06:16] <KE1HA> or cleverly through update.rc.d
[06:17] <z340> or chkconfig
[06:17] <Wiesshund> !spam >> linux_f
[06:17] <roved2101> Boooooooooom!
[06:17] <linux_f> shutdown -r now
[06:17] <linux_f> init 6
[06:19] <Wiesshund> kiba did you figure that out?
[06:23] <plouffe> there aren't enough people in this room
[06:23] <syslq> plouffe: I'm here
[06:23] <syslq> plouffe: and that has to mean something
[06:24] <plouffe> because?
[06:24] <ZykoticK9> !ot | plouffe syslq
[06:24] <rocket16> 1305 people are not enough? =-O
[06:24] <elkclone> lol
[06:24] <rocket16> lol
[06:24] <syslq> purpzey: because I'm a human being and my life has value :)
[06:25] <elkclone> ^5
[06:25] <rocket16> What is a decent replacement for OneNote? I tried Basket, but am not really impressed with it, :(
[06:27] <rocket16> Is there any OneNote-like Notebook software for Ubuntu? I don't like most Microsoft products, but I like OneNote, :( and hence it would have been great, if there would have been one.
[06:27] <KE1HA> rocket16, NoteMeister, Gnome Vazaar, BasKet (which you've tried), Newton Desktop Wiki.
[06:27] <KE1HA> TomBoy maybe?
[06:28] <rocket16> KE1HA: Thanks, :) and I mostly tried every software among those, :( and Tomboy/Gnote is simple, but not so feature-rich like OneNote. Still thanks,
[06:29] <roscogruen> ANYONE: dual booting with Win7 on a notebook and get great speed???!!1
[06:29] <roscogruen> i'm Distro shopping for a new notebook.
[06:29] <KE1HA> roscogruen, sure, lots of folks, depends on the notebook.
[06:30] <roscogruen> http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Acer-AS5251-1245/14575789#ProductDetail
[06:31] <KE1HA> roscogruen, I really can't recommend "brands" persay, but if you get a descent level CPU/RAm and common GPU card, should do just fine.
[06:31] <roscogruen> I run Mint on the current desktop and love it.  but i think the OS might need to be more leightweight for a notebook like this one
[06:31] <roscogruen> KE1HA: that is the new notebook we bought and needs to be dual booted
[06:31] <KE1HA> roscogruen, One thing to do, is check the hardware compatability lists for GPU & WiFI support, also sound, those are the touchy areas.
[06:32] <IanWizard> roscogruen: Ubuntu runs pretty much great on anything.  I've had it on my 700 Mhz netbook, and it ran ok.
[06:32] <heyboy> any idea how to use "chattr" to set attributes to files. I mean any usage case documentation available?
[06:32] <roscogruen> KE1HA: good thinking.
[06:32] <KE1HA> 10.04 recommends 1gb of RAM for the full desktop flavors, if you have ligher weight systems, xubuntu is sometimes a better choice.
[06:33] <acidjazz> thats odd .. i just did a typical 10.04 install of ubuntu on vmware and my keyboard doesnt work to login .. mouse works fine.
[06:33] <Wiesshund> roscogruen doesnt tell me what kind of wifi it has in it, ram wise it is fine at 3gb
[06:34] <roscogruen> KE1HA: & IanWizard i've heard the architecture of notebooks sometimes doesn't agree with a certain OS.  Mint/Ubuntu doesn't have good drivers for monitor
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> acidjazz, if you don't get an answer here, i'd recommend trying to find some vmware channel/support.  Good luck.
[06:35] <acidjazz> thanks ZykoticK9
[06:35] <roscogruen> I'd hate to burn more DVD's checking distros.  i already have like five ubuntu's three Mint's five puppylinux, jolicloude, etc
[06:35] <KE1HA> roscogruen, depends on the MFG of the hardware, some are better with open-source than others. A little preparation before hand, can save lots of troubles post install. Use the LiveCD to check things out.
[06:36] <ozfalcon> My internal Mic volume under alsa keeps reseting to 0 on reboot. How do I make it stick?
[06:36] <Wiesshund> roscogruen got a usb drive?
[06:37] <roscogruen> KE1HA: yeah, i'm trying to prepare, but dont' know tech words or even thoughts.  so searching for this stuff is hard.  like i said, i have wasted 20 DVD's on distros that don't fit
[06:37] <plouffe> what?
[06:37] <roscogruen> i've a disck with lubuntu on it and another with kubuntu i think.  maybe mint.  getting a pendrive linux OS takes me hours
[06:37] <KE1HA> roscogruen, hardware lists are good to review, then use a re-writable media.
[06:38] <Wiesshund> Witing a bootable usb drive takes hours?
[06:38] <roscogruen> KE1HA: yeah, this is a very good idea.  where do i check this out?  where are the reviews?
[06:38] <Wiesshund> *writing*
[06:39] <KE1HA> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:39] <fancybit> who playing the fuking robot?
[06:39] <roscogruen> i've found a few and now see a forum post for a wifi problem w/ linux and its wifi
[06:40] <Wiesshund> fancybit ?
[06:40] <KE1HA> roscogruen, broadcom is one fo the troubled Nics, but that's a kernel thing, which is soon to be fixed, but review the list, it's a good source.
[06:41] <roscogruen> k.  am doing it now.  THX for this idea.  it was something i was overlooking
[06:41] <roscogruen> KE1HA: ^
[06:41] <st__> i'm getting messages that something has been slowing my system and composite desktop was truned off, why this happwens?
[06:42] <KE1HA> roscogruen, I'd much rather have yo here now asking question, than coming back shouting at us cuz it aint work'en :-)
[06:42] <Wiesshund> fancybit what robot?
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> !away > _3rr0r_
[06:43] <gryllida> rww: ok, BestBot would list the environments for me at least.
[06:43] <roscogruen> KE1HA: one huge problem i've not fixed - transferring huge files from the win7 notebook to the Linux machine
[06:44] <roscogruen> KE1HA: i have resorted to placing them on an unsecure public drive
[06:44] <Wiesshund> roscogruen from what i can tell so far, you are fine cpu and ram wise, video is good, audio appears to be ati (via) and ok, but i dont know what the heck the wifi in it is
[06:44] <fancybit> okey
[06:44] <KE1HA> roscogruen, USB storage Drive, there cheap for that sorta thing.
[06:45] <fancybit> certainly you made the protection actions..
[06:45] <grendal_prime> anyone else having problems with yahooo?
[06:45] <grendal_prime> im that is
[06:46] <Wiesshund> fancybit you have a question or?
[06:46] <KE1HA> gen_cornwallis, define problems :-) ... but yes, e-mail been slow all eveing.
[06:46] <roscogruen> Aetheros wifi driver seems to have caused at least one issue
[06:46] <KE1HA> sir grendal_prime  that was fer you :-)
[06:47] <Wiesshund> !pm fancybit
[06:47] <Wiesshund> !msg fancybit
[06:47] <goten_> how to export these values " -Dunicorn.home=/var/lib/tomcat6/webapps/unicorn/ " as values for the environmental variable $CATALINA_OPTS in my bash_profile and source it.
[06:47] <grendal_prime> ok ...i was wondering..hehehe ok..well my im client is doing funky things..(pidgeon) just wanted to make sure the yahoo server wasnt jacked up before i started digging further.
[06:47] <fancybit> yes
[06:47] <ZykoticK9> Wiesshund, you need to put a | between factoid and nic
[06:47] <fancybit> I wan't to kown ,WHAT IS NON-LOGIN SHELL...
[06:47] <grendal_prime> wow..
[06:47] <grendal_prime> Firefox can't find the server at www.yahoo.com.
[06:48] <grendal_prime> that..sounds ...well bad
[06:48] <Wiesshund> ZykoticK9 oops. Fancybit ive no clue what your pming me about?
[06:48] <KE1HA> grendal_prime, i can see it, it's rendering here, but the mail clinet is just slow fer me.
[06:49] <Wiesshund> fancybit if youve a question ask it in the channel, i know nothing about a robot trying to compile scripts and shut down your computer
[06:49] <uncle_sin> hello
[06:49] <ZykoticK9> !hi | uncle_sin
[06:49] <fancybit> i'm a chinese , and trying to add my scripts in ubuntu of some commets  by my mother language. that's all
[06:49] <uncle_sin> .
[06:49] <bazhang> !cn | fancybit
[06:50] <KE1HA> goten_, have a read here: http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/path.shtml
[06:50] <a> ,
[06:50] <a> m
[06:50] <fancybit> no, I'm trying  to shutdown the robot
[06:50] <goten_> KE1HA, Thanks
[06:50] <bazhang> fancybit, that has nothing to do with Ubuntu support. Please stop
[06:51] <fancybit> okey.
[06:51] <fancybit> but more persons here,right?
[06:52] <bazhang> !ot | fancybit
[06:52] <JoshDreamland> Is there a good way to identify the SD slot, regardless of volume name, if I know the name now?
[06:53] <fancybit> I konw, I'm studing bash now and wish some help
[06:53] <bazhang> fancybit, #bash
[06:53] <Jordan_U> JoshDreamland: Depending on your end goal, /dev/disk/by-path/ may be usefull.
[06:53] <ZykoticK9> JoshDreamland, could you use the /dev/sdX#
[06:53] <fancybit> okey
[06:54] <KE1HA> fancybit, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[06:54] <JoshDreamland> ZykoticK9: thanks.
[06:54] <otoko> Evening
[06:54] <fancybit> KE1HA , thanks
[06:55] <grendal_prime> damn looks like yahoo is broke...is it just me?
[06:55] <goten_> KE1HA, is this right export CLASSPATH=$CATALINA_OPTS: -Dunicorn.home=/var/lib/tomcat6/webapps/unicorn/
[06:55] <saravan> hi i installed vlc reccently but audio is not working any one help me out
[06:56] <Wiesshund> grendal_prime could be the particular yahoo server answering your route. they have many servers
[06:56] <otoko> Evening everyone, I'm trying to get broadcom drivers working my Inspiron 1318
[06:56] <sacarlson> grendal_prime: yahoo.com looks good here in thailand
[06:56] <grendal_prime> yahoo has many servers?
[06:56] <grendal_prime> how do they do that?!!!
[06:56] <grendal_prime> hehehehe
[06:56] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx otoko
[06:56] <livingdaylight> hello oooBoonToo users
[06:57] <Wiesshund> grendal_prime because a single server would die when the entire internet tries to access it
[06:57] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, only ubuntu users here ;)
[06:57] <KE1HA> goten_, looks reasonable ..
[06:57] <livingdaylight> ZykoticK9, but in repos and synaptic i see Oubountu etc also ;)
[06:57] <KE1HA> goten_, http://download-llnw.oracle.com/javase/1.3/docs/tooldocs/solaris/classpath.html
[06:57] <grendal_prime> werid im in california we dont have server downtime...its illegal.  costs to much money so we made it illegal
[06:57] <Wiesshund> grendal_prime can you access google or msn etc fine?
[06:58] <goten_> KE1HA, but i get error goten@Netpad:~$ export CLASSPATH=$CATALINA_OPTS: -Dunicorn.home=/var/lib/tomcat6/webapps/unicorn/
[06:58] <KE1HA> goten_, its for Oracle, but the concept is same.
[06:58] <goten_> bash: export: `-Dunicorn.home=/var/lib/tomcat6/webapps/unicorn/': not a valid identifier
[06:58] <goten_> goten@Netpad:~$
[06:58] <grendal_prime> Wiesshund, yes those are fine.
[06:58] <Wiesshund> !pastebin | goten_
[06:58] <KE1HA> goten_, look above
[06:58] <livingdaylight> grendal_prime, I have been to kalifornia once. I like. Your governor comes from my country
[06:58] <rww> grendal_prime: Comcast is currently experiencing some network issues. I would guess that's why.
[06:58] <Blue_> ok, who wants to help me fix my audio?
[06:58] <bazhang> livingdaylight, support issue?
[06:59] <shawnboy> can someone help me convert filenames with nonsense characters to filenames with correct characters (with accents)?
[06:59] <Wiesshund> grendal_prime then your system is fine, its a problem somewhere between your ISP and yahoo
[06:59] <grendal_prime> thanks..
[06:59] <livingdaylight> bazhang, thx, can you tell me should I rip out pulseaudio?
[06:59] <KE1HA> goten_, another example: http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/classpath.shtml
[06:59] <livingdaylight> bazhang, where were you yesterday when I needed you?
[06:59] <livingdaylight> ;)
[06:59] <grendal_prime> rww, dude im totally on comcast...
[06:59] <grendal_prime> !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:59] <grendal_prime> how did you know?!!!
[06:59] <KE1HA> goten_, you want this one for bash: xport CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/java/classes:/home/tchin/myclasses
[06:59] <bazhang> livingdaylight, outline your issue to the channel, removing pulse is not a good choice
[06:59] <rww> grendal_prime: /whois grendal_prime
[07:00] <grendal_prime> hehehe
[07:00] <goten_> KE1HA, I did that one already
[07:00] <rww> grendal_prime: plus, I'm in California and also on Comcast, and currently having a heck of a time connecting to my webserver, hence me knowing things are weird right now.
[07:00] <Wiesshund> grendal_prime it tells us when you join the channel
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, +1 on bazhang's "not a good choice" comment
[07:00] <shawnboy> I've installed convmv but I can't seem to figure out what character set is being used and which char set I need to convert to.
[07:01] <livingdaylight> bazhang, I wondered what the take on pulseaudio is currently. After a fresh install previously people were ripping it out. Apparently it is rubbish and the reason why many avoid Ubuntu. Why does Ubuntu use it then?
[07:01] <KE1HA> goten_, finger {username} and make sure you know which shell you in.
[07:01] <kjoz> Hello, can someone help? I just installed the new Ubuntu and having issues with wireless... I am using BCM4401 card
[07:01] <grendal_prime> thank you Wiesshund. I was being facetious.
[07:01] <livingdaylight> I've just installed Ubuntu fresh here and wondered what I need to do to fix sound issues that could arise as a consequence of pulseaudio being installed by default.
[07:01] <bazhang> livingdaylight, not really a support question; if you have particular audio issues then pastebin error logs and describe your exact problems
[07:01] <Wiesshund> livingdaylight i wouldnt rip it out. what is your issue ?
[07:02] <KE1HA> goten_, to to set path do: export CLASSPATH=//java/myapp
[07:02] <grendal_prime> ya yank pulsaudio and run alsa
[07:02] <livingdaylight> I installed Spotify and spotify config page says to set Audio to OSS and I see that it is on Alsa currently. Are we using OSS or Alsa, anyone?
[07:02] <KE1HA> goten_, to export class: export CLASSPATH=//java/myapp://java/appletstuff/applet1/
[07:02] <goten_> KE1HA, okay
[07:02] <SwedeMike> livingdaylight: ALSA works, but generally applications should use pulseaudio.
[07:03] <grendal_prime> puls works fine on my inspiron 1420 (but it came with linux pre installed)
[07:03] <livingdaylight> SwedeMike, but I see no pulseaudio option in wine config manager
[07:03] <kjoz> Hello, can someone help? I just installed the new Ubuntu and having issues with wireless... I am using BCM4401 card
[07:03] <KE1HA> goten_, putting an example in pastebin for you
[07:03] <goten_> KE1HA, I want to set this variable  -Dunicorn.home=/var/lib/tomcat6/webapps/unicorn/ tell me how to set this one
[07:03] <saravan> audio is not working in vlc player any one help me please
[07:03] <Wiesshund> livingdaylight you can pick alsa oss or pulse, depending on the app, and depending on what the app works best with. wine wise, alot of games like OSS
[07:04] <KE1HA> goten_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/477306/
[07:04] <sacarlson> livingdaylight:  I think alsa sound can only support a single application at a time.  if two apps want to make sound I guess it says it's busy.  pulseaudio I think you can here like more than one thing like beeps and music play at the same time.  I could be wrong tho
[07:04] <KE1HA> goten_, what is this [-Dunicorn.home] ?
[07:04] <Blue_> any one want to help me with my audio?
[07:04] <livingdaylight> k, thx guys, agues I'll just leave it for now and hope for the best
[07:05] <Wiesshund> pulseaudio does quite a few nice things, like virtual devices to play to or record from
[07:05] <Blue_> i have an x-fi that i would like to get working
[07:05] <kjoz> Hello, can someone help? I just installed the new Ubuntu and having issues with wireless... I am using BCM4401 card
[07:05] <goten_> KE1HA, I want to install and compile the Unicorn validator.w3,org
[07:06] <ZykoticK9> saravan, if other audio is working.  VLC / Tools / Preferences / Audio / Output module / try ALSA and/or Pulse
[07:07] <KE1HA> goten_, that's a bit OT, but your building from source ?
[07:07] <saravan> zykotick9, i installed vlc two days back
[07:07] <ZykoticK9> kjoz, do you see anything in System / Admin / Hardware Drivers for you wireless?  Have you plugged in an ethernet cable and done updates?
[07:07] <goten_> KE1HA, yes can u try this one, hg clone https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/unicorn
[07:07] <kjoz> ZykoticK9, cant do the ethernet way my good man
[07:08] <KE1HA> goten_, I know what it is, I'
[07:08] <KE1HA> goten_, just not installed it locally on my server.
[07:08] <saravan> zykotick9, i can play the videos but audio is not working
[07:08] <Wiesshund> kjoz no possible way you can get to a wire? not even for a short time?
[07:08] <KE1HA> goten_, they have an Install how too, have you followed that ?
[07:08] <goten_> KE1HA, yes how to install it locally on my server
[07:09] <livingdaylight> Wiesshund, I know that people at #winehq think pulseaudio sux :s
[07:09] <KE1HA> http://code.w3.org/unicorn/wiki/Documentation/Install
[07:09] <kjoz> Ya, no possible way for a wired... Can get the drivers from another machine and USB it..
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> saravan, sorry beyond my previous suggestion - I have nothing.  I don't use VLC.  Good luck.
[07:09] <Jordan_U> kjoz: BCM4401 is an ethernet card, not a wireless card.
[07:09] <kjoz> damn, let me get the wireless then
[07:09] <Wiesshund> livingdaylight so dont use pulseaudio for wine, youve got 3 choices
[07:09] <kjoz> lspci right?
[07:09] <KE1HA> goten_, you download the source code, then compile, use their directions, and make sure you have the deps met.
[07:10] <Blue_> can some one help me get my x-fi working
[07:10] <goten_> KE1HA, I downloaded the Unicorn and gone inside n read the Read me file
[07:10] <Wiesshund> kjoz yes
[07:10] <raskah> Hello all =)
[07:10] <gryllida> HI
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> kjoz, "lspci | grep Wireless" might show it.
[07:10] <saravan> Zykotick9, ok what about movie player even in movie player audio is not working
[07:10] <KE1HA> goten_, I'd have to do that myself to figure it out, best best is to check with them.
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> saravan, is audio working for anything?
[07:10] <raskah> I am havings some issues regarding fdisk/cfdisk. Would anyone be available to answer a few questions for me?
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> !ask | raskah
[07:11] <RandomlyCool> linux is dog shit
[07:11] <goten_> KE1HA, okay have u tested unicorn before
[07:11] <bazhang> RandomlyCool, wrong channel
[07:11] <KE1HA> goten_, it lookes pretty straight forward, just enter their commands.
[07:11] <elkclone> lmao
[07:11] <RandomlyCool> NOU
[07:11] <kjoz> ZykoticK9, BCM4312
[07:11] <JJohn> I agree with RandomlyCool/
[07:11] <gryllida> RandomlyCool: /part then
[07:11] <KE1HA> I've used the Valdator for years yes, but not built one for a long time.
[07:11] <elkclone> awww
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> kjoz, sorry i'm no help with that part - just giving you direction to find it...
[07:11]  * gryllida ensures bazhang is here yet
[07:11] <saravan> zykotick9, not at all working
[07:12] <RandomlyCool> So who likes Mac?
[07:12] <sacarlson> raskah: did you try sudo fdisk /dev/sda1 ?
[07:12] <ZykoticK9> saravan, sorry i'm not an audio expert.  good luck.
[07:12] <gryllida> !ot | RandomlyCool
[07:12] <bazhang> RandomlyCool, please take chat elsewhere
[07:12] <goten_> where should i execute this command ant retrieve generate_observer generate_tasklist default_conf war inside the unicorn root or anywhere
[07:12] <RandomlyCool> John
[07:12] <JJohn> RandomlyCool,
[07:12] <goten_> KE1HA, where should i execute this command ant retrieve generate_observer generate_tasklist default_conf war inside the unicorn root or anywhere
[07:12] <JJohn> Lets have a small debate.
[07:12] <RandomlyCool> Ok
[07:12] <Wiesshund> Lets not
[07:13] <KE1HA> in a terminal
[07:13] <elkclone> other than my docs stuck in win7 os. I am just as functional in ubuntu. pretty easy with gnome interface.
[07:13] <KE1HA> goten_, in a terminal where you downloaded the source code example /Download/src..../.../
[07:13] <frykholmm> Do anyone know why the daily mainline kernels aren't built anymore?
[07:13] <goten_> KE1HA, okay
[07:14] <elkclone> just gotta migrate the docs onto the net then dl them to ubuntu.
[07:14] <sacarlson> raskah:  beter yet sudo fdisk -l    and l i lowercase L
[07:14] <Wiesshund> elkclone win7 in same machine as ubuntu? if so you should be able to access your docs?
[07:14] <elkclone> how?
[07:14] <raskah> This has been the same across 2 old and 1 new HD. I can always oipen a drive in fdisk, but it shows up weird errors saying it will be corrected by write. So i make a new ms-dos partition table and write it and it opens in cfdisk fine. If i make a new partition table (whether using fdisk or cfdisk).. I can no klonger open the drive in cfdisk and fdisk opnce again shows up errors. I have tried on Ubuntu, slack and knoppix always the same\
[07:14] <Wiesshund> elkclone dont you see the win7 partition in Places?
[07:15] <Blue_> can someone help me get my x-fi working?
[07:15] <roscogruen> KE1HA: where are the reports where i can search for acer aspire 5251?
[07:15] <elkclone> possible just havn't been looking.
[07:15] <elkclone> but gennerally no it doesn't show on a dual boot. which is what I am running.
[07:16] <Wiesshund> elkclone if you click Places you should see the windows partition.
[07:16] <steph021> i am following this guide using lucid https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization, but i get this error  E: Could not open file /dists/lucid/extras/binary-i386/Packages.new -  open (2 No such file or directory) when running this command apt-ftparchive -c $APTCONF generate apt-ftparchive-deb.conf
[07:16] <sacarlson> raskah: does it have to be in ms-dos format?  can't you use ext3 or other like fat32
[07:17] <goten_> KE1HA, http://paste.ubuntu.com/477308/ I get this output
[07:17] <elkclone> system is the only thingy that looks like a disk
[07:17] <raskah> well thats just the option making the partition table.. i then make type 83 for my installs and a swap partition
[07:17] <ezrafree_> hello
[07:17] <Wiesshund> elkclone win partition would be listed by its partition name
[07:18] <Wiesshund> elkclone this isnt a wubi install is it?
[07:18] <KE1HA> goten_, you need the ant libs :-),, and I dont know where to get those.
[07:18] <KE1HA> roscogruen, is that the model number of the box itself ?
[07:19] <goten_> okay if i install the ant libs means it will work right
[07:19] <sacarlson> raskah: well if your going to use type 83 (that's ext3 I think) then that's what you should be using in fdisk not ms-dos
[07:19] <elkclone> yah i did a wubi
[07:20] <raskah> ok.... you need a partition table to vcreate opartitions on.... hence 45 primary or with extended p[artitions this is ms-dos format partition table. Youn then make new partiutions of type 83 which is linux.... and you cvan then format the partition with whatever fs you want
[07:20] <raskah> thats how it works
[07:20] <Wiesshund> elkclone oh. you do realize that wubi is not exactly a linux install, there is no linux partition, its booting a compressed image saved on the windows partition
[07:20] <sacarlson> raskah:  just delete all the patitions you created and boot a live ubuntu cd and let it auto select how it thinks you should partiton the disk unless you have multi boot in the drive
[07:21] <raskah> thats not what i want6
[07:21] <saravan> i installed vlc player in ubuntu 9.10 videos is working bur audio is not working
[07:21] <raskah> my pount is to have control over partitions
[07:21] <elkclone> seems to work fine
[07:21] <elkclone> other than not accessing winbows. while im running ubuntu. i can live with that.
[07:22] <kjoz> whats the name for ubuntu 10.4?
[07:22] <Wiesshund> elkclone yes but it has some important differences, such as you can never remove windows, and if windows dies so does ubuntu
[07:22] <raskah> and i have my own poartition schemes... with multiple OS's.  just not sure why fdisk/cfdisk keep bugging out on new old sata ide whatever drives
[07:22] <bazhang> kjoz, lucid lynx
[07:22] <kjoz> thanks
[07:23] <elkclone> so far I like not having to deal with disk druid or fdisk etc. lol.
[07:23] <Wiesshund> elkclone and i dont think via wubi you can access the windows partition since that could potential break wubi
[07:23] <elkclone> I have done red hat and slack installs in the past . this was easy.
[07:24] <Wiesshund> elkclone hehe yea, ubuntu uses gparted, its much simpler, helps you resize partitions etc
[07:24] <sacarlson> raskah: well what schemes are you really wanting and what is already there.  you should pastebin a copy of sudo fdisk -l  here so we get an idea
[07:24] <nimbiotics> Hi guys. I was using twin view wit my envidia card and now I cannot open the Monitors utility. I get The following message when I try "Could not get screen information. RANDR extension is not presnt.". What can I do?? TIA!
[07:25] <elkclone> I used red hat in the 2000 and was all slack before that.
[07:25] <Wiesshund> elkclone but yea unfortunately i believe the wubi method makes directly accessing the win7 partition not possible, to prevent bad things from happening
[07:25] <raskah> its variable dude.. i have like 6 HD's. These bugs/errors/fucks/ show upn on EVERY drive i try on nEVERY distro
[07:25] <null____> Question:  On Ubuntu 10.04 and 1.06-1ubuntu1.1 if I 'vlc http://www.di.fm/aacplus/goapsy.pls' , control+Z, bg; VLC quickly leaks about a gig of ram and almost kills my computer.  Known bug?  There is no update available for Ubuntu.  Can someone try to reproduce this?
[07:25] <elkclone> its fine. I only have a few docs authored by me. so no prob.
[07:25] <raskah> srry for swearing
[07:26] <elkclone> the rest of my stuff is just downloads, music books. etc.
[07:26] <roscogruen> KE1HA: sorry, missed that.  is that the model number of the box?  here is its description:  http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Acer-AS5251-1245/14575789#ProductDetail
[07:26] <sacarlson> raskah: even windows don't use ms-dos anymore
[07:26] <elkclone> raskah: np
[07:26] <Wiesshund> raskah sign of a failing hdd controller perhaps?
[07:26] <raskah> you mean for the original partinion table?
[07:26] <raskah> hmmm possibly
[07:27] <sacarlson> raskah: yup
[07:27] <raskah> I was getting a few cyclic redundancy check errors in winblows on my other hd
[07:27] <goten_> can anyone tell me how to install ant libraries
[07:27] <AnxiousNut> which is the best app for getting the output of a pci video capture card?
[07:27] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Yeah, wnet looking, and the reviews if you will are more on the component level, v.s. the system level other than what's posted on the site.
[07:27] <Wiesshund> elkclone If you felt like creating one extra partition on the drive, i do believe win7 and wubi can share it, since wubi doesnt live on it
[07:27] <goten_> KE1HA, thanks for the help
[07:28] <KE1HA> goten_, dod you get it ?
[07:28] <KE1HA> Did?
[07:28] <Blue_>                                 can some one help me get my x-fi working?
[07:28] <elkclone> not so keen on hacking up the drive on a laptop. this way reminds of using knoppix cd's. back in the day.
[07:28] <Wiesshund> raskah sounds like youve more of a hardware problem, could be mb/controller, could be bad ram or cpu, can even be an unstable power supply
[07:29] <elkclone> bt4 now.
[07:29] <raskah> sacarlson, create new empty DOS opartyition TABLE not ms-dos partition... my error
[07:29] <Wiesshund> elkclone thats fine, may want to pick up a cheap jumpdrive, both os's can share it easily
[07:29] <roscogruen> yeah, i'd have a problem searching for component issues and ubuntu.  but i'm trying.  i'm on ubuntu.org searching, "acer aspire 5251" and not getting anywhere
[07:30] <goten_> KE1HA, No but I found this ant-doc, ant-gcj, ant-optional(updates the library), ant-optional-gcj
[07:30] <raskah> damnit. was going to use this system as a fiule server when i build my new system but its just too old to bother if bits are breaking
[07:30] <elkclone> yah gonna keep offloading the downloads under ubuntu to disk so I dont jam up the drive space on the compressed disc image.
[07:30] <Wiesshund> elkclone if you ever decide to move to a linux partition install, ubuntu makes it really really easy, virtualy windows point and clickish :)
[07:30] <KE1HA> goten_, ok, its looking for the Ant libs, so you need those as deps.
[07:30] <goten_> KE1HA, Not solved same error
[07:31] <sacarlson> raskah: just reformat it.  it might still work but use a type that is usable like ext3
[07:31] <AnxiousNut> how do i know the location of a mounted device? (pci card)
[07:31] <elkclone> i don't have a usb drive which is what is common method.
[07:31] <KE1HA> goten_, only thing I can suggest there is, ensure the lis are built, then export the path to them before you run the rest.
[07:32] <goten_> KE1HA, can u me how to get it
[07:32] <raskah> you don't understand me sacarlson... its the partition table.... nothing to do with the filesystem on any disk or partition
[07:32] <elkclone> I got a tonne of apps running though. lol.
[07:32] <KE1HA> goten_, no Idea how they are built or installed, I assume from source.
[07:32] <Jordan_U> raskah: Can you actually pastebin the error you're getting from fdisk?
[07:32] <roscogruen> heck, KE1HA is it ubuntu.com?
[07:32] <raskah> yeah i gotta plug my other disk back in brb
[07:33] <KE1HA> roscogruen, from the link I sent you earlier
[07:33] <sacarlson> raskah: the partition table is what controls what filesystem that linux and or windows uses.
[07:33] <roscogruen> i got nothing on it.  all directions and stuff
[07:33] <Wiesshund> raskah if you cant set up stable disks on that machine (you said youve tried many different disks) id say the hardware itself is having an issue
[07:33] <roscogruen> how to fill out a testcase.  KE1HA unless i missed something
[07:34] <saby> how can i clean up my memory
[07:34] <Wiesshund> saby what do you mean exactly?
[07:34] <roscogruen> KE1HA: which ubuntu is good for notebooks.  i need to know which OS my search should include.  fast, "out of box" and good at dual booting
[07:35] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Um, :-) you could try it, but that's typically for commercial venders, like Dell, HP etc.
[07:35] <Q_Continuum> Running 10.04-amd64, gnome-power-manager has a memory leak.  @ 272MB now and climbing 0.1MB every 10-15 seconds
[07:35] <saby> Wiesshund, like some part of the memory is used for cache and isnt needed
[07:35] <saby> so how can i clean it up
[07:35] <pure_hate> saby, sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[07:35] <KE1HA> roscogruen, All of then really, if your resouce limited (Lower CPU, 512MB Ran etc) you may try Xubuntu, but the NetBoox-Remix is good for those as well.
[07:36] <euphorial> For a notebook, I would seriously get Linux Mint (which is ubuntu, only with stuff already activated)
[07:36] <saby> thanx pure_hate
[07:36] <euphorial> already supported*
[07:36] <roscogruen> that link is out of my history.  what does it start with so i can search web history history?
[07:37] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Xubuntu and netbook-remix are the lightest, KDE and Gnome take more resources.
[07:37] <Wiesshund> You can also try puppylinux which is based off of ubuntu but tailored to low spec and legacy hardware machines etc.
[07:38] <dri245> hi
[07:38] <roscogruen> netbook-remix
[07:38] <roscogruen> ?
[07:38] <dri245> someone please tell me a good free anti virus for ubuntu, please :)
[07:38] <bazhang> dri245, clamav if you must
[07:38] <distant2> what are the alts to ubunto gnome/kde in terms of DE?
[07:38] <euphorial> you do not need anti-virus on ubuntu
[07:38] <Wiesshund> dri245 you dont really need AV for linux
[07:38] <dri245> if there is such. or if you can use such. since i'm new on linux, never used it. i am a complete noob.
[07:38] <bazhang> distant2, lxde xfce4 and tons of others
[07:38] <Wiesshund> unless your going to make a file server
[07:38] <dri245> i'm not.
[07:39] <roscogruen> what is the homepage for ubuntu?  the official one?
[07:39] <bazhang> dri245, then no need
[07:39] <sacarlson> dri245: you only really need anti virus you you are supporting windows users on your linux system
[07:39] <euphorial> dri245: Viruses are a Windows thing
[07:39] <bazhang> roscogruen, yes
[07:39] <distant2> bazhang: and are those limited in features compared to gnome?
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Wiesshund: Puppy is not based on Ubuntu.
[07:39] <dri245> great!
[07:39] <Wiesshund> dri245 there really arent any viri for linux in the wild
[07:39] <dri245> i love this OS!
[07:39] <saby> it has been more than 12 hours since i started building gnome-shell and it still hasnt completed
[07:39] <dri245> thanks a lot!
[07:39] <bazhang> distant2, to a degree, though much quicker as a result
[07:39] <euphorial> Ubuntu will update you from time to time for its security
[07:39] <Wiesshund> Jordan_U no? how come it comes in karmic and lucis etc?
[07:39] <bazhang> distant2, you can try lubuntu-desktop and see
[07:39] <nimbiotics> Hi guys. I was using twin view wit my envidia card and now I cannot open the Monitors utility. I get The following message when I try "Could not get screen information. RANDR extension is not present.". What can I do?? TIA!
[07:39] <rww> Jordan_U: yes it is
[07:39] <KE1HA> roscogruen, http://www.ubuntu.com/
[07:40] <Wiesshund> er lucid
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Wiesshund: Seems I'm just remembering wrong, sorry.
[07:40] <rww> Jordan_U: they switched relatively recently
[07:40] <appuru_guru> can anyone point me in the right direction as far as getting iTunes running on Ubuntu 10.04??
[07:40] <Wiesshund> Jordan_U no worries lol
[07:40] <rtronkiv> just installed ubuntu server with no added package's, do i have sshd already?
[07:40] <Jordan_U> rww: Ahh, thanks.
[07:40] <roscogruen> i thoght you said that was for companies, KE1HA ?
[07:40] <KE1HA> roscogruen, the hardware certificaiton process is, but not the Software, its for everyone.
[07:41] <roscogruen> is the ubuntu netbook edition okay for this 15.6" notebook?
[07:41] <saby> appuru_guru, you can use iTunes through Wine
[07:41] <roscogruen> ?
[07:41] <distant2> bazhang: i'm wondering for things like compiz (the advanced fluid gui fx) if they're on the alts to g/k ubunto.
[07:41] <appuru_guru> saby: any version of itunes?
[07:41] <KE1HA> roscogruen, maybe Im confused, what you looking for ?
[07:41] <Wiesshund> Cool thing about puppy , if you sit down and learn woof, is you can have a custom distro made exactly for your machine. kind of neat even though many dont use that.
[07:41] <saby> yes appuru_guru
[07:42] <bazhang> distant2, sure, but not much point as kubuntu has its own compositing, and lubuntu is so memory light that running compiz is counter-intuitive
[07:42] <KE1HA> Wiebe, LFS :-)
[07:42] <appuru_guru> saby: thanks
[07:42] <rww> xfce4 has its own compositor too <3
[07:42] <roscogruen> KE1HA: a distro to dual boot w/ win7 on the notebook
[07:42] <rtronkiv> what do i apt-get install ? for sshd?
[07:42] <rww> rtronkiv: openssh-server
[07:42] <saby> appuru_guru, welcome :)
[07:42] <bazhang> distant2, but certainly can be done if you wish to go that route
[07:42] <KE1HA> roscogruen, all of them will Dual-Boot, but some are better suited for lower resource machines.
[07:43] <distant2> bazhang: i don't really need that for the low mem usage, just for the looks - i prefer win98 looks and feel.
[07:43] <Wiesshund> roscogruen any modern distro can dual boot with windows
[07:43] <KE1HA> roscogruen, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[07:43] <distant2> and could definitely use a little boot in power
[07:43] <sacarlson> rtronkiv: apt-get install ssh
[07:43] <bazhang> distant2, you could check some screenshots, or try with the kubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop etc, or just run in a vm
[07:44] <Wiesshund> sshd isnt it?
[07:44] <distant2> kubuntu is KDE?
[07:44] <bazhang> yes distant2 kde4
[07:44] <distant2> i hate kde.
[07:44] <rww> Wiesshund: ssh is a metapackage that installs openssh-server and openssh-client. sshd isn't a package.
[07:44] <KE1HA> roscogruen, this ins't a UB site, but a good illustration: http://www.hackourlives.com/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[07:44] <Wiesshund> rww ah ok
[07:44] <distant2> i don't wand windows on a linux os
[07:44] <sacarlson> rtronkiv: rww:  eather way works ssh or openssh-server    ssh is just a dumby package
[07:44] <distant2> s/wand/want
[07:45] <Wiesshund> KDE has some neat features but its too time consuming to sit around building warfs etc.
[07:45] <roscogruen> kj
[07:45] <roscogruen> k
[07:45] <distant2> it's all shiny, glossy and stupid
[07:46] <roscogruen> KE1HA: bookmarked that page.  thank you
[07:46] <distant2> worse than mac os x
[07:46] <bazhang> distant2, that is getting offtopic
[07:46] <distant2> ok.
[07:46] <rww> opinions are like IRC clients, everyone in here has one and the ones that aren't irssi suck
[07:46] <KE1HA> distant2, Linux is like cars, you can get'um in many diff flavors, if ya dont like one, there's another down the road.
[07:46] <maco> Wiesshund: building warfs?
[07:47] <Wiesshund> its not my fave but in its defense, it can look like virtualy anything you want, but its a pain in the butt to put together
[07:47] <KE1HA> roscogruen, welcome
[07:47] <bazhang> rww, will be glad to debate you in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:47] <ianwizard1> Ok, so my hotkeys worked with liveCd, but now that I'm installed, nothing...
[07:47] <roscogruen> KE1HA: while i've got your help, i'm having issues sharing files from this win7 notebook with a linuxMint/ubuntu Karmic.  printer sharing is also issue
[07:47] <Wiesshund> maco yea, they called soemthing else now?
[07:47] <maco> rww: s/irssi/quassel/
[07:47] <distant2> ianwizard1: that's funny
[07:48] <maco> Wiesshund: uhh i hear warf and i think of something to do with coastline. what are you talking about?
[07:48] <roscogruen> would you have a link with a guide for that?  KE1HA i dont' know the terminology to get a all-in-on guide
[07:48] <maco> Wiesshund: and yes, i use kde...
[07:48] <dri245> another question.
[07:48] <Wiesshund> maco kind of think of it as a dock
[07:48] <KE1HA> roscogruen, is this on the same machine, or two diffrent machines
[07:48] <dri245> i configured wine. and i installed macromedia flash. how do i uninstall the wine-installed applications? or do i just delete them from that virtual C drive?
[07:48] <maco> Wiesshund: oh the panel?
[07:49] <roscogruen> KE1HA: two machines
[07:49] <maco> Wiesshund: do you mean what was called kicker in kde3 and panel in kde4?
[07:49] <Wiesshund> maco with draws and buttons, located anyplace you write it to be. middle of the desktop if you wanted
[07:49] <KE1HA> roscogruen, and here's a good base reference manual for you: ttp://ubuntu-manual.org/
[07:49] <maco> Wiesshund: oh, plasmoids
[07:49] <maco> Wiesshund: or widgets in non-geek-speak
[07:49] <Wiesshund> maco ive not used kde in a while, used to be called a warf
[07:49] <roscogruen> win7 notebook (wireless) to router.  Karmic ubuntu atheth0) to router
[07:50] <roscogruen> oh, THX again
[07:50] <maco> Wiesshund: was that in kde3? i didnt know kde3 even had them...
[07:50] <rww> or wharfs, which is what they've been called since before KDE existed :3
[07:50] <roscogruen> ah, the entire manual?  kewl
[07:50] <KE1HA> roscogruen, put this in google, and read to your hearts contest: Ubuntu 10.04 file share with win7 "
[07:50]  * maco only knows kde4 terminology. disliked kde3
[07:51] <raskah> the problem appeared to be something to do with having windows type partitions created by fdisk... nfi its fixed now just keeping windows and linux on seperate disks
[07:51] <Wiesshund> maco mm im thinking back in say slackware 3 redhat 5 etc
[07:51] <maco> Wiesshund: oh, like KDE 1.0...
[07:51] <Wiesshund> lol possibly
[07:51] <raskah> also to do with my own lack of understanding on the functionality of the MBR
[07:52] <roscogruen> KE1HA: do you have experience dual booting with win7?  i bet win7 caused LOTS of problems on purpose
[07:52] <the_wench2> hello, in a cron entry can't I use MAILTO along with /dev/null 2>&1 ?
[07:52] <sacarlson> raskah: very good
[07:53] <Simeon_H> are there any canonical employees in here?
[07:53] <distant2> lol. well i don't know if it's logical to run lubuntu on a 2gb ram system.
[07:53] <KE1HA> roscogruen, I now how to do it, but I've no machines running it, only one Win box in the house, and that's cuz Im waiting on a kernel patch an i855 chipset
[07:53] <the_wench2> anyone ?
[07:53] <KE1HA> Know*
[07:54] <Wiesshund> maco i didnt like gnome alot way way back but it was kind of big and chunky feeling back then. now its like it doesnt even exist on the desktop
[07:54] <roscogruen> dual booting xp/vista and dual booting with win7 are too totally different ball games
[07:54] <KE1HA> roscogruen, :-) .. Its jsut somethign I dont do, no real need fer it.
[07:54] <Simeon_H> I purchased software from the canonical store a week ago and still no download link :(
[07:54] <Simeon_H> and no reply to my email
[07:55] <Wiesshund> Ive no problem multi booting with win7
[07:55] <roscogruen> i'd not dual boot if i ddin't have to.  i'd never use any windows if i absolutely didn't have to.  but i must for just one thing
[07:55] <distant2> where is "ubuntu light?"
[07:55] <bazhang> !minimal | distant2
[07:55] <roscogruen> Wiesshund: really.  install M$ first, then ubuntu?
[07:56] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Im not knocking, dont get me wrong, I just personally dont ahve a need fer it at the moment.
[07:56] <sacarlson> the_wench2: I guess I need the whole crontab line
[07:56] <the_wench2> saby: one sec
[07:56] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Yes, that's the recommended way.
[07:56] <roscogruen> KE1HA: i envy you in a big way.
[07:56] <Wiesshund> roscogruen yes install winXP 1st, then win7 (if you want 2 windows) then ubuntu
[07:56] <saby> the_wench2, ok
[07:57] <distant2> ok in that case the official ubuntu became the 'light ubuntu'
[07:57] <roscogruen> just one install of win7 and one of linux.  won't use XP at all
[07:57] <roscogruen> two partitions is all i want (excluding ext and swap)
[07:57] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Another option, Install Ubuntu all the way, then use Win7 in VirtualBox, but ya need some Umph in the computer to do that.
[07:57] <Wiesshund> roscogruen just install win7 1st, on 1st partition prefferably, then install ubuntu.
[07:58] <roscogruen> vbox will not work in this case.  spent weeks in #vbox channel.  camera needs more
[07:58] <KE1HA> roscogruen, ditto, that's what I'd recommend as a preferred methind.
[07:58] <the_wench2> sacarlson: saby: http://pastie.org/private/wyworiaaxbf4rjhw0ylgew
[07:58] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Like Wiesshund said, Win7 1st, then UB
[07:58] <roscogruen> Wiesshund: right now, i've got win7 taking up entire space.  does the ubuntu distros have partition manager options in install process?  as does mint?
[07:58] <distant2> does anyone know a linux audio editor? you know, the best.
[07:59] <emma> roscogruen: yes you can create your partitions manually in the ubuntu installer.
[07:59] <Wiesshund> roscogruen yes gparted will handle that
[07:59] <KE1HA> roscogruen, if you go to screencasts.ubuntu.com you can watch video's of it all as well.
[07:59] <bazhang> distant2, no best, try audacity for starters
[07:59] <saby> the_wench2, this is for ?
[07:59] <roscogruen> gparted is during the install process?  yes?
[07:59] <the_wench2> the question I asked
[08:00] <sacarlson> the_wench2: you will need to put you command in a script or maybe you can put 'xxx' around it the 'wget xxxxx'
[08:00] <the_wench2> you said me ok when I said I am giving the corn entry
[08:00] <the_wench2> ?
[08:00] <roscogruen> k.  Wiesshund you had xp installed, then installed win7 then ubuntu?
[08:00] <the_wench2> "hello, in a cron entry can't I use MAILTO along with /dev/null 2>&1 ?"
[08:00] <tensorpudding> !best | distant2
[08:00] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Linky: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/
[08:00] <Wiesshund> gparted is the partition tool and its used during install, no cryptic disk druid or fdisk
[08:00] <roscogruen> k
[08:00] <emma> roscogruen: i guess it is using gparted, but durring the installation you can either have ubuntu create default partitions for you or you can opt for manual where you can create as many partitions you want and mount them to whatever directories you specify.
[08:01] <Jordan_U> Wiesshund: Ubuntu has its own partitioner built into the installer, it does not use gparted.
[08:01] <saby> the_wench2, oh hehehe sorry was for someone else
[08:01] <roscogruen> i'm looking in the forums and it looks like others have had problems dual booting with win7
[08:01] <KE1HA> rr gparted needs to be installed after if you want it.
[08:01] <rww> the_wench2: redirecting to /dev/null is overthinking it. just use the -q option to wget.
[08:01] <emma> yeah and for some reason gparted is not on the livecd.
[08:01] <roscogruen> k
[08:02] <Wiesshund> i thought the installer one was gparted? well in any case the installer partition tool is very easy to use
[08:02] <the_wench2> rww: how would that help ?
[08:02] <emma> but once you have booted the livecd you can sudo aptitude install gparted
[08:02] <the_wench2> sacarlson: ? didn't get you
[08:02] <sacarlson> emma: no gparted on live cd I will have to check that
[08:02] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Make a rescue CD, back up your data, then follow the Install guide for Dual-Booting
[08:03] <rww> the_wench2: umm, because the point of redirecting to /dev/null is to throw away any output...
[08:03] <emma> sarts: yeah i don't think gparted is on the livecd but you can install it from inside the live session with sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:03] <nimbiotics> Hi guys. I was using twin view wit my nvidia card and now I cannot open the Monitors utility. I get The following message when I try "Could not get screen information. RANDR extension is not present.". What can I do?? TIA!
[08:03] <rww> emma, sacarlson: gparted is on the live cd.
[08:03] <the_wench2> I see , so in order to make MAILTO work I need to remove dev/null, right ?
[08:03] <rww> was when I used it, anyway
[08:03] <sacarlson> the_wench2: you have spaces in it cron don't like spaces.  you will have to put single quotes around it.  i normaly just create scripts that have what's needed in them
[08:03] <the_wench2> also wget is downloading files, how do I stop that ?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> emma: Gparted is uncluded in the Ubuntu LiveCD, just not used in the installer.
[08:03] <emma> rww: im not so sure about that.
[08:03] <the_wench2> sacarlson: could you edit that entry and explain ?
[08:03] <roscogruen> KE1HA: i need to make backup disk for Acer driver and what-not.  12GiB.  it will take 4 DVD's to do that.  and the blank dvd's i have aren't acceptible to acer???
[08:04] <the_wench2> rww: did you read that? too many people speak here so my lines went way abv :P
[08:04] <sacarlson> */10 * * * * /home/myaccount/wget_script.sh >> /dev/null 2>&1
[08:05] <rww> the_wench2: I have no idea what you're trying to do. As far as I can see, you're using wget, which downloads files, except you don't want to download files, and you're redirecting to /dev/null, which throws away output, except you don't want to throw away the output :\
[08:05] <KE1HA> roscogruen, I'd go sped 20 bucks for a USB External drive.
[08:05] <Wiesshund> rww partition tool on live cd is GPartEd eh im guessing thats not quite the same
[08:05] <the_wench2> rww: that url does some crawling processes and updates the mysql DB
[08:05] <distant2> audacity _is_ cool, used it in windows.
[08:05] <holty> Hello..I could use some help with ampache
[08:06] <the_wench2> and I can't use path, just because it uses lots of MVC files, basically controllers, models, libraries, helpers, etc.
[08:06] <the_wench2> now the thing is, I want to send output/errors to my mail id and also not download any files because of wget, how do I do that ?
[08:06] <sacarlson> rww: the_wench2: rww has a good point
[08:06] <KE1HA> roscogruen, The RescueCD will ahve all the drivers on it, in case you need to restore, what you really need to get secured, if your file data.
[08:07] <the_wench2> sacarlson: lol, who has a good point? :P
[08:07] <rww> the_wench2: ah, okay, I see now
[08:07] <the_wench2> cool :)
[08:07] <fr0y0z> Hello! I have a question about exporting access databases to mySQL via myPHPadmin. I downloaded MDB Tools and exported the mdb database which was exported as a txt file. I tried to Import it into MyPHPAdmin and I got the following error: #1051 - Unknown table 'TABLE_NAME' I'm not really sure where I'm going wrong and I'm not sure if anyone here can help with it but if anyone has encountered this, some help would be very much appriciate
[08:07] <Wiesshund> ok im off to bed, night all
[08:07] <emma> rww: i think perhaps it is included on the livecd but not installed?
[08:07] <rww> emma: correct
[08:08] <Freudlund> I'm trying to install a game(bztank) ./configure says I need curl, and should install it, but I know I have it. # curl --version says 7.19.7...what should I do?
[08:08] <_3rr0r_> why does gnome-look.org and kde-look.org always forward me to a sports blog page when I try to download wallpapers?
[08:08] <the_wench2> rww: so ?
[08:08] <emma> rww: ahh yeah then, i meant that you have to install it.
[08:08] <rww> the_wench2: I'm thinking, one sec
[08:08] <Jordan_U> Freudlund: bztank is avialable in the repositories. Install it via Applications > Ubuntu Software Center
[08:08] <the_wench2> rww: no probs,take your time ;)
[08:09] <Freudlund> Jordan_U, cool, didnt think to look there...
[08:09] <Jordan_U> Freudlund: It's the first place you should look when installing any software.
[08:09] <fr0y0z> oh my gosh sorry folks wrong room
[08:10] <sacarlson> the_wench2:  yes wget is for downloading files so I guess that's what you want to do.  what do you want to do with the file it downloads?
[08:10] <emma> Freudlund: however a game like that from the repositories is likely to be well behind the latest thing you can compile from source. I am not saying that is true in your case since I don't know about bzflag.
[08:10] <the_wench2> I don't want it to download any file sacarlson
[08:10] <nimbiotics> Hi guys. I was using twin view wit my nvidia card and now I cannot open the Monitors utility. I get The following message when I try "Could not get screen information. RANDR extension is not present.". What can I do?? TIA!
[08:10] <Freudlund> StJordan_U, I usually do...still if the installer fails on this wrong error, somethings knocked, i'd like to figure out what...?
[08:10] <sacarlson> the_wench2: well what is the purpuse of this function doing?
[08:11] <the_wench2> client doesn't wants the filesystem to get filled every min lol
[08:11] <the_wench2> the cron will run every min
[08:11] <EddieV113> nimbiotics: when i install the driver non of my windows will render, even the login screen so it ruins the system, i'm going without the driver for now until I find out whats going on
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Freudlund: I assumed you were actually talking about bzflag, I've never heard of bztank before.
[08:11] <roscogruen> KE1HA: we won't have anything, like a video that someone else would want.  but browser history and if we pay bills online, we'll want that history hidden.  plus, i'll have a firewall up.  not sure if malware can get into ubuntu firewall and go through for personal information (passwords and credit card info)
[08:12] <rww> the_wench2: "wget --delete-after" will delete any files it creates. "wget -q" stops all output, "wget -nv" shows only basic output, and I don't see anything for "just error output". You could probably do it with shell redirection (which is the >> and > stuff you have in that pastebin), but I'm no good with that, so I wouldn't know how.
[08:12] <nimbiotics> EddieV113: thanks
[08:12] <EddieV113> whats a good irc client with favorites lists?  Im using chatzilla now
[08:12] <rww> (as in, delete the downloaded copy, not the server copy)
[08:12] <Freudlund> Jordan_U, nope, didn't read your comment that good, it's actually bzTank...a 3d multiplayer game...
[08:12] <EddieV113> but no favorites is getting annoying
[08:13] <sacarlson> the_wench2: well if it does nothing then you don't need to add it to cron.  just delete the line.
[08:13] <ezrafree_> hello
[08:13] <Freudlund> Jordan_U, never mind...we are talking about the same...
[08:13] <the_wench2> ok, thanks rww
[08:13] <rubydiamond> hi guys..
[08:13] <rubydiamond> I am running an app on port 3000
[08:13] <rubydiamond> can I share my IP:3000
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Freudlund: Yeah, just found the about page "BZtank is a BZFlag server network located in London, United Kingdom."
[08:13] <rubydiamond> in network
[08:13] <rubydiamond> using Ubuntu 9.10
[08:14] <KE1HA> roscogruen, well, your not going to actually bash the data files on the Win7 partition, it's the MBR that your concerned about trashing, and that's where the Rescue comes in, but there's ways to fix MBR's without a rescue disk in a couple commands.
[08:14] <emma> Freudlund: Is it called bztank or bzflag?
[08:14] <ezrafree_> i have a "UUID" set in my /etc/fstab but now i can't mount my external hard drive... any ideas?
[08:14] <roscogruen> KE1HA: does the new ubuntu come w/ grub2?
[08:14] <ezrafree_> is there some way to get a new UUID?
[08:14] <Jordan_U> roscogruen: Yes.
[08:14] <bazhang> ezrafree_, sudo blkid?
[08:14] <KE1HA> roscogruen, yes
[08:15] <rubydiamond> uname -a: Linux anil-desktop 2.6.31-22-generic-pae #61-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 28 03:15:32 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:15] <kermit> is there an open source flash plugin?
[08:15] <ezrafree_> bazhang: thank you kindly, let me try that
[08:15] <Freudlund> emma, eeee, it's bzFlag, my mind played tricks on me
[08:15] <emma> Freudlund: try sudo aptitude build-depends bzflag
[08:15] <emma> Freudlund: and then try compiling from source again.
[08:15] <bazhang> kermit, none worthwhile
[08:15] <roscogruen> Jordan_U: & KE1HA grub2 will take care of the MBR issue?
[08:15] <Jordan_U> kermit: There are a few, none of them particulary good yet.
[08:15] <rww> ezrafree_: sudo tune2fs -U newuuidgoeshere /dev/devicenode, but I'd highly recommend figuring out what's not working instead.
[08:15] <the_wench2> rww: -l --delete-after or just --delete-after ?
[08:15] <kermit> Jordan_U: like what? i'll try
[08:15] <papi> Hello
[08:15] <rubydiamond> halp
[08:15] <KE1HA> roscogruen, yes, Grub will become the new boot-loader.
[08:16] <quietone> EddieV113, xchat
[08:16] <papi> Can anybody help me?
[08:16] <bazhang> papi, ask a question
[08:16] <Jordan_U> kermit: lightspark (a relatively new project), gnash, and swfdec.
[08:17] <KE1HA> roscogruen, Have a read though this site, answers allot fo quesitons: http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[08:17] <emma> ubuntu should but BURG in as the interface to Grub2. It would be nicer for people to look at.
[08:17] <roscogruen> KE1HA: if grub2 is installed and that takes care of the MBR issue, no need, right?
[08:17] <papi> with live cd i can acces a external hard drive but after install of ubuntu i can't  acces
[08:17] <KE1HA> It's for 9.10, but the context is what's inportant.
[08:17] <EddieV113_> im running xchat now, how do i add a server/channel to my favorites?
[08:18] <KE1HA> roscogruen, It's jsut for background information and how ti all works.
[08:18] <rubydiamond> Can I share my IP:3000 (a web app) over network without changing IP tables
[08:18] <rww> the_wench2: just --delete-after. I'm not seeing what -l has to do with anything :\
[08:18] <emma> papi: is it connected by usb? If so perhaps try lsusb to find it
[08:18] <SoftwareExplorer> I'm looking to buy a joystick for flightgear. How is ubuntu's joystick support?
[08:18] <bazhang> EddieV113_, under xchat menu network list edit ubuntu servers add there
[08:18] <papi> it says i don't have enough permissions
[08:18] <Jordan_U> emma: BURG is a fork of GRUB2 maintained by only one person, and GRUB2 has it's own graphical themeing system (BURG's is a fork of the theming system that already existed in GRUB2).
[08:18] <KE1HA> EddieV113_, Server >> Join Channel etc etc
[08:18] <bazhang> EddieV113_, separate with a ,
[08:19] <Jordan_U> emma: While Ubuntu will likely include a nice graphical theme for the grub menu at some point, it will not be from BURG.
[08:19] <emma> Jordan_U: oh well does Grub2 have that nice menu or is it still the old one that looks the same as always?
[08:19] <KE1HA> EddieV113, Wehn you first log-in, you can add all the rooms you want, and t re-connects for you.
[08:19] <papi> it's mout automatic but i can't acces it
[08:20] <emma> papi: it mounted?
[08:20] <papi> it says
[08:20] <Freudlund> emma, no go..trying repo instead, still bugs me tho
[08:20] <bazhang> KE1HA, for autojoin? that needs to be edited in
[08:20] <KE1HA> bazhang, Yes, it's a pain
[08:20] <bazhang> KE1HA, at any rate he quit
[08:20] <KE1HA> :-)
[08:20] <emma> papi: then go to it and type sudo chown <your user name> <the name of the directory>
[08:21] <KE1HA> bazhang, it's burried about 3 panels down to get the re-connect sites on there.
[08:21] <KE1HA> Should be Right-Click, re-connect on log-in, how tough is that :-)
[08:21] <Jordan_U> emma: http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/261/ is a theme made for grub2, unfortunately most people are making themes for BURG instead.
[08:22] <ccherrett> hey guys!
[08:22] <papi> can't acces
[08:23] <emma> papi: you mean it shows up as mounted, as a directory of its own but when you try to use files in it, it says you can't access them>
[08:24] <kabrag> triple
[08:25] <papi> i can't see it on the desktop or the menu
[08:25] <emma> how do you know it's mounted?
[08:25] <papi> only in the disk utility
[08:26] <emma> fdisk?
[08:26] <sacarlson> papi: emma: i'm guessing that's it's mounting read only.   try the command in a terminal mount  also
[08:26] <papi> i suppose because i have ubuntu in spanish
[08:27] <sacarlson> papi: pastbin the results of both fdisk  -l   and mount
[08:27] <papi> pastbin?
[08:27] <emma> sacarlson: but he says its not even showing up on the desktop nor the places menu
[08:27] <emma> !pastebin | papi
[08:27] <papi> pastebin?
[08:28] <papi> ok
[08:28] <bazhang> http://paste.ubuntu.com  <----- papi
[08:28] <KE1HA> copy, paste, hit send, then copy the link and post it here
[08:28] <sacarlson> emma: ya must no be mounted or his privliges?
[08:28] <Aeronius> Greetings, is there a way around DRM for WMV files?
[08:28] <emma> Someone with factoid editing privs should shorten that pastebin factoid. It's kind of ironic when the invitation to use a pastebin uses more lines than if the person would have just pasted into the channel.
[08:28] <kermit> emma: hahah
[08:29] <emma> sacarlson: i think either not mounted, or needs to use chown or chmod, but i don't know that stuff well enough and i don't want to mess him up.
[08:30] <sacarlson> emma: well with the fdisk -l and mount we should see
[08:30] <emma> could be you need to chmod the directory +x  i think when a directory is not +x then you can't access it.
[08:30] <Aeronius> *anyone*, is there a way around DRM for WMV files?
[08:30] <KE1HA> Aeronius, those are, well illegal activities, if you Goggle it, I'm sure you'll find the answers your looking for.
[08:30] <papi> http://imagebin.org/109423
[08:31] <emma> Aeronius: a sure way to avoid that is to use ogg instead.
[08:31] <the_wench2> */10 * * * * <--- says bad minute
[08:31] <the_wench2> I am getting error
[08:31] <sacarlson> Aeronius: DRM?  you can't view wmv files?
[08:31] <Aeronius> I thought it wasn't illegal...
[08:31] <Aeronius> yeah, it's one file in particular
[08:32] <DasEi> Does anybody know what's up with streamtuner ? the stations won't appear under their folders no more, though the urls are up
[08:32] <Aeronius> just shows a bunch of jumbled digital mess
[08:32] <the_wench2> rww: any idea?
[08:32] <the_wench2> */10 says bad minute
[08:32] <KE1HA> Aeronius, that's it's design.
[08:32] <EddieV113> why can't i join python channnel anymore?
[08:33] <sacarlson> the_wench2:  it look write to me but like I said you other parts of you line has spaces in it
[08:33] <papi> So... what do you think?
[08:33] <YinYulong> 中国人的有？
[08:34] <KE1HA> EddieV113, I dont see a Python channel listed.
[08:34] <EddieV113> its #python on freenode
[08:34] <EddieV113> can't join atm tho
[08:34] <KE1HA> At least not a ubuntu associated channel
[08:35] <sacarlson> papi: I don't see the results of the command fdisk -l  or mount in you paste  and I don't speak spanish
[08:35] <Aldeos_BBC> Hi all
[08:35] <DasEi> !hi
[08:35] <KE1HA> EddieV113, the #python would not let me join either.
[08:35] <emma> papi: try: sudo chown -R papi /media/usb0
[08:36] <the_wench2> this is my cron entry bud -> http://pastie.org/private/tywedul6hwuapuvklyqow
[08:36] <emma> papi: asuming that your login name is papi on your machine.
[08:36] <Aldeos_BBC> I like the linux mint ui.. Is there an ubuntu theme that will make it look like mint?
[08:36] <stimpson> YinYulong: 没有中国人
[08:37] <papi> emma: and them?
[08:37] <sacarlson> the_wench2:  to prove it is correct you can try this line */10 * * * * /bin/ls >> /dev/null 2>&1
[08:37] <emma> papi: then try it again.
[08:37] <the_wench2> sacarlson: it says bad minute :(
[08:37] <the_wench2> I mean the error
[08:38] <sacarlson> the_wench2: yes cause it's looking at the seperation of your command that has spaces in it
[08:38] <the_wench2> http://pastie.org/private/auljugak1pfghwcydqehna
[08:38] <x90> hey fag fucked ferry faggot fag fucks, lay off the fag fucked jacobs moms nasty snatch hole
[08:38] <the_wench2> which spaces ?
[08:38] <KE1HA> Aldeos_BBC, is this what your after? : http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Cassandra+Mint+Green?content=64998
[08:38] <haldo> stimpson: sure?
[08:39] <x90> oh come on
[08:39] <x90> lol
[08:39] <haldo> stimpson: #ubuntu-cn #ubuntu-tw
[08:39] <the_wench2> sacarlson: ?
[08:39] <papi> works!
[08:39] <x90> heres a good seperation command split(/faggots/, "fags faggots fags");
[08:39] <the_wench2> this small issue has wasted 1 hour of mine, DAMN
[08:39] <Aldeos_BBC> Ha that looks good sir!
[08:39] <papi> but why and how?
[08:39] <holty> I could use some help with ampache loggin if someone has the knowledge
[08:39] <sacarlson> the_wench2:  wget<space>http://yoursite.com<space>  those spaces  they need to be in quotes or in a script that you run
[08:40] <KE1HA> Aldeos_BBC, Here's another one: http://www.sizzledcore.com/2008/08/09/ubuntu-themes-awesome-themes-for-linux/
[08:40] <the_wench2> really ?
[08:40] <llutz> sacarlson: since when?
[08:41] <sacarlson> llutz:  what did I miss?
[08:41] <llutz> sacarlson: look at examples in "man 5 crontab" and see that you're wrong :)
[08:41] <papi> emma: what that command do
[08:41] <DasEi> Aldeos_BBC: no mintsupportt here, but basically can have other desktops too, looked at gnome.org for a theme already ? else fluxbox and such work flawless on ubuntu, too, and there is kubuntu, too
[08:41] <Magix> Hello. My sound doesnt work in my webbrowsers. How to fix that. In other applications it does work. But not in the webbrowsers.
[08:42] <sacarlson> llutz: ok than what's wrong with her line? http://pastie.org/private/wyworiaaxbf4rjhw0ylgew
[08:42] <Magix> Then i am talking about: Firefox, Opera.
[08:42] <emma> papi: changes the owner of that directory to you.
[08:42] <emma> papi: i don't know if it will do what you need or not though.
[08:42] <the_wench2> llutz: so whats the solyution ?
[08:43] <papi>  and who was by default?
[08:43] <papi> it works
[08:43] <llutz> sacarlson: sorry, i don't have www access yet, cannot look at  paste
[08:43] <sacarlson> the_wench2:  did this work? */10 * * * * /bin/ls >> /dev/null 2>&1
[08:43] <Magix> Then i talk about: FLASH videos.
[08:43] <emma> papi: it's working now?
[08:43] <papi> emma: yes
[08:44] <emma> papi: WOW! ♥
[08:44] <papi> emma: thank you
[08:44] <emma> papi you are the first person i've ever helped for a non trivial propblem!
[08:44] <papi> emma: :-[
[08:44] <KE1HA> Magix, check out Chromium, and Enable HTML-5 .. Makes Web-Vid sing and no choppy U-Tube. No need fer flash.
[08:45] <tasslehoff> I have a laptop with ATI graphics running the proprietary driver. What should I use to setup dualscreen? Is there a graphical ATI-tool?
[08:45] <pocoyo> hello, everyone
[08:45] <sacarlson> llutz: how can you see this without internet access?
[08:46] <Magix> KE1HA: How to enable HTML-5. And Sometimes the vids does work. SOMETIMES.
[08:46] <Magix> KE1HA: I now installed chromium
[08:46] <KE1HA> Magix, You go to the U-Tube site, and there's a button, job done.
[08:46] <llutz> sacarlson: internet != www
[08:46] <sacarlson> llutz: oh ok
[08:47] <KE1HA> Magix, Search on Utube HTML-5
[08:47] <KE1HA> with google
[08:47] <Magix> ok
[08:47] <papi> emma: there's a new problem
[08:47] <sacarlson> llutz:  the line was this: */10 * * * * wget -S http://www.example.com/track/cronjobs/updateLinkStatus >> /dev/null 2>&1
[08:48] <emma> papi: im afraid it's unlikely i can solve two problems.
[08:48] <emma> papi: but what is it, in case someone can.
[08:48] <papi> emma: well is not really a problem
[08:48] <emma> papi: okay it's getting better already!
[08:48] <emma> ]
[08:48] <parapan> hi there fellows > pls provide me with a linux software for photo batch conversion ...resize of 10 pictures at once ....something like the faststone from the win world ....
[08:49] <sacarlson> llutz: so what's wrong with that line?
[08:49] <MaRk-I> parapan: Phatch
[08:49] <papi> when i acces using the live cd the icon is different from what is lokking now
[08:49] <llutz> sacarlson: idk, seems correct
[08:50] <dandre2> hello,
[08:50] <parapan> MaRk-I: hmm ..let me check -it ..thanks it's a GUI software or command line ?
[08:50] <sacarlson> llutz:  so maybe the problem wasn't on that line?  I guess I should have tried it
[08:50] <saji89> parapan, Please visit this- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5029251
[08:51] <MaRk-I> parapan: it's gui go to software center and look for phatch
[08:51] <dandre2> How can I activate the network interfaces at system startup instead of user login?
[08:51] <papi> emma: now it appears the right icon
[08:51] <emma> papi: yay!
[08:51] <parapan> k
[08:52] <Magix> KE1HA: Im now exctracting the files..
[08:52] <papi> emma: this is a little crazy
[08:52] <KE1HA> Magix, Here's a Video How Too :-): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wteih8XzJX0
[08:52] <sacarlson> llutz: I didn't get any errors so I think your right
[08:52] <KE1HA> Very clear instrucitons.
[08:52] <jacobs> omfg there is this new virus that effects this crazy part of the brain in fags and makes the seek out lil kids to kill in there sleep
[08:52] <emma> !ops | jacobs
[08:53] <emma> oops i didn't know it would spam like that.
[08:53] <emma> but anyway maybe the ops in here care about jacobs. Whatever.
[08:53] <papi> emma: now both icons appears one works and the other don't
[08:54] <kermit> Jordan_U: yeah, gnash almost worked but not really, i didnt get the other two installed
[08:55] <emma> papi: that's pretty weird. i don't know what to make of that.
[08:55] <Jordan_U> kermit: If you're wanting FOSS support for Youtube then try html5 or totem's youtube browsing plugin.
[08:56] <papi> emma: thank you anyway because it works
[08:56] <papi> good night
[08:56] <emma> Jordan_U: how do you 'try' HTML5?  I thought that was something your browser either did or not.
[08:57] <emma> papi: goodnight
[08:57] <Fb14> Hi!
[08:57] <emma> Hi.
[08:58] <rww> emma: http://youtube.com/html5, I assume
[08:58] <Fb14> I have some questions about tune DVB card. Anybody know something about that?
[08:59] <Fb14> In Ubuntu...
[08:59] <Jordan_U> emma: There are a few different factors. First, youtube by default will always use flash, even if your browser supports html5 (and the codec that particular video uses). Second, up untill recently youtube has been using h.264 as the codec for their video files with html5, but Firefox doesn't support h.264 because it's not a Free codec.
[08:59] <Magix> KE1HA: Sound doesnt work....
[08:59] <Magix> again.
[08:59] <EddieV113> how do i get terminal to change directory to a flash drives drive?
[09:00] <TheStreetRacer> please command for enter ubunti it chat
[09:00] <sacarlson> EddieV113:  normaly you will find flash drives in /media
[09:00] <emma> Jordan_U: somehow the ipad is able to view YouTube videos without flash I guess.
[09:00] <KE1HA> Magix, Well, that's half the problem solved at least :-)
[09:00] <Magix> Yeah.
[09:01] <emma> Jordan_U: does that codec have to be built into firefox when it's compiled?
[09:01] <tasslehoff> I have a 1080p laptop w/ati graphics. When I setup cloned display to an external 1080p monitor, the image doesn't fill the external monitor. I'm pretty sure it's not scaling in the monitor that's an issue.
[09:02] <Jordan_U> emma: Yes, they don't use a web browser for browsing youtube IIRC, much like what you can do with totem (which rather than having a full built in web browser just grabs the videos directly from youtube's servers and plays them)
[09:02] <MaRk-I> TheStreetRacer: /join #ubuntu-it
[09:02] <Jordan_U> emma: Firefox can't be compiled with h.264 support, and probably never will be able to be. But...
[09:03] <KE1HA> Magix, From bug reports: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer
[09:04] <quietone> EddieV113, cd /media/<name>
[09:04] <Jordan_U> emma: Google recently released their VP8 codec under a royalty free licence, meaning that it can be used in Firefox.
[09:04] <KE1HA> +1 on h.264 and the Big Goog.
[09:05] <Jordan_U> emma: So if you install the latest development release of Firefox you will be able to watch those videos that have been made available using html5 and webm (the new open video format that uses vp8).
[09:05] <emma> cool
[09:06] <shawnboy> The more I look at this, the more confused I get. I need help with ssh command line going through non-standard ssh port.
[09:06] <KE1HA> Jordan_U, You need FF 4.X +
[09:06] <kiamo> amarok wont play my mp3s.  I'm guess I need to install mp3 playback support, however rhythmbox works fine.  Am I missing something?
[09:06] <Jordan_U> shawnboy: ssh -p 1234 user@host
[09:07] <rww> kiamo: they use different backends. for amarok, try installing the package libxine1-ffmpeg
[09:07] <shawnboy> Jordan_U: Thanks. I'll give that a try.
[09:07] <Jordan_U> shawnboy: You're welcome.
[09:07] <kiamo> rww, thanks I'll try that
[09:07] <whysoserious> HI, whats up
[09:07] <whysoserious> I want to talk a lot about
[09:08] <EddieV113> whats the command to run a .o file?  I have a main.cpp file that i compiled and it gave me a main.o file, so how do i run that?
[09:08] <whysoserious> o.O
[09:08] <kiamo> rww, so because I'm running amarok, does that mean I'm running both gnome and KDE?
[09:08] <kwtm> EddieV113: Don't you have to link the object (.o) file?
[09:08] <whysoserious> Well
[09:08] <milen8204> why when I turn WLAN and LAN on, the icons in uplet disappears
[09:08] <milen8204> ?
[09:08] <llutz> !ot > whysoserious if its not ubuntu support related, talk there
[09:08] <whysoserious> Your mouse will looks like KDE
[09:08] <rww> kiamo: kinda. depends on how you define GNOME and KDE, I guess
[09:09] <whysoserious> cursor
[09:09] <whysoserious> You understand that
[09:09] <kwtm> kiamo: You have both KDE and GNOME libraries, but your window manager is still Gnome WhateverIt'sCalled (Ubiquity?)
[09:09] <EddieV113> kwtm, im not sure, first time compiling a c++ file on linux
[09:09] <rww> kwtm: metacity or compiz. ubiquity is the Ubuntu Installer
[09:09] <EddieV113> kwtm, what should i do?
[09:09] <kwtm> EddieV113: How are you compiling?  What command line?
[09:09] <whysoserious> You willbe on KDE, by using amarok, or K3B, just because your mouse cursor will be on the same on being in kde
[09:09] <Jordan_U> EddieV113: Did it also create a file name "a.out" or give any error messages? What command did you run to compile main.cpp?
[09:09] <shawnboy> Jordan_U: another question just to make sure, if you don't mind. I set my router to forward port 1234 to 22 on 192... Then command you showed should work, right?
[09:10] <rww> whysoserious: running KDE programs in GNOME doesn't change your cursor :\
[09:10] <kiamo> ah ok, so it's not a bad idea to run KDE apps alongside gnome apps?
[09:10] <milen8204> why when I turn WLAN and LAN on, the icons in uplet disappears? How to avoid that?
[09:10] <kwtm> whysoserious: Are you sure?  I use KDE and GNOME apps in Kubuntu.  Does that mean I'm using GNOME on KDE?
[09:10] <rww> kiamo: nope, it should work fine
[09:10] <Jordan_U> shawnboy: Yes.
[09:10] <parapan> MaRk-I: You're the man bro; thanks for the tip; it's working as expected - fast and light :d
[09:10] <kwtm> kiamo: People do it all the time, running KDE apps in GNOME.
[09:10] <rww> and vice versa
[09:10] <whysoserious> Not so fast I mean
[09:10] <MaRk-I> parapan: yw
[09:10] <llutz> whysoserious: nonsense, running any kde-app under gnome wouldn't make you "running kde"
[09:10] <whysoserious> I use kubuntu desktop on ubuntu
[09:10] <shawnboy> Jordan_U: problem must be somewhere else. I'll keep looking. Thanks again. At least I know I have the command line right.
[09:11] <kiamo> kubuntu is just ubuntu with the KDE window manager?
[09:11] <whysoserious> Its all a mess, because my cursor is of KDE full time
[09:11] <rww> kiamo: basically, yes
[09:11] <kwtm> whysoserious: "Not so fast I mean".  What are you referring?  To?  I can't see which part of the conversation this connects to.
[09:11] <kiamo> aah I see
[09:11] <whysoserious> And all that bunch of progrmas of kde desktop is implanted on gnome
[09:11] <rww> ubottu: kubuntu
[09:11] <EddieV113> kwtm, i used anjuta to compile it, I have no errors just a main.o file and the main.cpp in that folder
[09:12] <whysoserious> I just talking, typing, kwtm
[09:12] <KE1HA> kiamo, and allot of different apps designed fer KDE, some cross over, some don't.
[09:12] <kwtm> EddieV113: I confess that I've actually never actually compiled a program in Linux before.  But let me look up "anjuta" and see what options it has.
[09:12] <whysoserious> Well
[09:13] <whysoserious> I have have some thoughts about be in a place for one single pourpose, and do not avoid it until its done
[09:13] <KE1HA> kwtm, pretty easy ./configre   ./make && make install   :-) if all goes well it works :-0)
[09:13] <Jordan_U> shawnboy: It's often helpfull you use telnet to test basic connectivity, if you "telnet hostname 1234" I'm guessing you'll get "Connection refused".
[09:13] <whysoserious> Do You understand that?
[09:13] <KE1HA> need sudo fer make install most of the time
[09:13] <rww> whysoserious: I think #ubuntu-offtopic would be more suited to you.
[09:14] <kwtm> KE1HA: Well, I've done *that* before.  But we're talking about compiling one's own software, not someone else's which already has a makefile done.
[09:14] <whysoserious> And my point is: Can you/we/me manage ours/mine connection on linux?
[09:14] <kwtm> EddieV113: Check out http://library.gnome.org/devel/anjuta-manual/stable/build-compile-and-build.html.en
[09:14] <whysoserious> I mean, can we do that?
[09:14] <emma> EddieV113: i suggest using checkinstall.
[09:14] <kwtm> EddieV113: It looks like instead of Build > Compile, you may want Build > Build.
[09:14] <KE1HA> kwtm, Ahh :-) Makefiles can be a bit interesting.
[09:14] <whysoserious> When I am doing any download, an youtube tab do not load anymore
[09:14] <emma> when you use make install it's possible that so many binaries will be made in so many places you cannot practically ever uninstall it.
[09:15] <emma> with checkinstall you can.
[09:15] <whysoserious> I ask if it is the same to everyone on the linux world
[09:15] <shawnboy> Jordan_U: good idea.
[09:15] <whysoserious> Well, i have to stop now to read someone
[09:15] <whysoserious> ^
[09:16] <kwtm> whysoserious: Sorry, couldn't I just get you to clarify: are you asking a question to try to get us to help?  You seem to be giving a lot of information that doesn't quite connect, and I don't know whether I should make the effort to try to understand you, or whether "I just talking, typing, kwtm"
[09:16] <whysoserious> emma is female?
[09:16] <whysoserious> Goo
[09:16] <KE1HA> there's aps that track install, but yes, it can be touchy, especially on a packaged base system.
[09:16] <whysoserious> f
[09:16] <whysoserious> d
[09:16] <whysoserious> I will be more especifc
[09:16] <KE1HA> please dont.
[09:17] <shawnboy> Jordan_U: Thing is, it works when I use standard port 22, but when I try non-standard, I get no connectivity.
[09:17] <kwtm> whysoserious: So: You can run GNOME and KDE software in a KDE environment.  I run KDE, like you.  Not sure what that has to do with "the cursor is KDE".
[09:17] <whysoserious> Can we manage our very connection  of download and whatever?
[09:17] <whysoserious> Is that making any sense?
[09:17]  * llutz smells a lousy troll
[09:17] <whysoserious> and make whatever
[09:17] <whysoserious> NO
[09:17] <bazhang> !enter | whysoserious
[09:17] <whysoserious> I am seriouslly
[09:18] <bazhang> whysoserious, stop with the enter key
[09:18] <whysoserious> Haha
[09:18] <whysoserious> Man
[09:18] <kwtm> whysoserious: I would agree with ubottu.  So, I am going to ignore you until you ask a specific question that is all on one line.  Thanks.
[09:18] <bazhang> whysoserious, not kidding
[09:18] <whysoserious> I am seriouslly here, please, help
[09:18] <EddieV113> kwtm, in anjuta after i compile the build option stays greyed out ?
[09:18] <papi> Hello
[09:18] <whysoserious> ¬¬
[09:18] <rww> whysoserious: What's your native language?
[09:18] <papi> Can anybody help me?
[09:18] <whysoserious> Portuguese
[09:18] <whysoserious> Sorry my bad english
[09:18] <rww> ubottu: pt | whysoserious
[09:18] <DasEi> !details | papi
[09:19] <kwtm> EddieV113: Interesting.  You might want to create a makefile, or read up on it if you are not familiar with that, and then use the makefile to get to an actual compiled program.
[09:19] <rww> whysoserious: probably would get a better result there.
[09:19] <whysoserious> I like chat
[09:19] <KE1HA> !ask | papi
[09:19] <bazhang> whysoserious, this is NOT a chat channel
[09:19] <whysoserious> And even can help
[09:19] <whysoserious> You mean it
[09:19] <papi> The file '/media/usb0/Julio/Programas/UT4063/Utility/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit. ubuntu 10.04
[09:19] <bazhang> whysoserious, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[09:20] <KE1HA> chmod +x {filename}
[09:20] <kwtm> EddieV113: Basically, an object file is halfway to a fully compiled executable.  It needs to be linked in order to get to the final step.  I see that the Anjuta web site says you don't have to worry about that since it's automatic, but I don't know why it is not so for you.
[09:20] <DasEi> papi: thats a windows file, you want to run it in wine ?
[09:20] <papi> i'm trying to open with wine
[09:20] <whysoserious> Right
[09:20] <papi> but The file '/media/usb0/Julio/Programas/UT4063/Utility/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[09:20] <emma> papi well since that is an .exe i guess that's for windows and it's not going to run on ubuntu.
[09:20] <DasEi> papi: sudo chmod +x  YourFile.exe
[09:20] <whysoserious> How can I connect on the pt channel?
[09:20] <milen8204> any one knows a program for files downloading, which can continue the downloading if it had stoped
[09:20] <KE1HA> papi, then after wine setup.exe
[09:21] <whysoserious> Jdownloader
[09:21] <llutz> milen8204: ftp, rsync, wget
[09:21] <KE1HA> but wine needs to be instaled of course
[09:21] <bazhang> whysoserious, /join #ubuntu-pt  /join #ubuntu-br
[09:21] <kwtm> milen8204: Yes.  I recommend rsync (for command line) or grsync (for graphic interface); it is capable of resuming partial downloads.
 any one knows a program for files downloading, which can continue the downloading if it had stoped JDOWNLOADER
[09:21] <kwtm> Who is pocoyo?  I didn't like that Chinese quit message.
[09:21] <milen8204> thanks dudes
[09:21] <whysoserious> If I leave here, how to connect so? I am seriouslly
[09:21] <milen8204> you rock
[09:22] <DasEi> whysoserious: see above
[09:22] <KE1HA> milen8204, curl, rzync wget most of them have flags for that. rzync probably easiest on BW.
[09:22] <KE1HA> Whoops rsync ..
[09:22] <whysoserious> I will stop for a while so I can read
[09:22] <whysoserious> Away
[09:22] <kwtm> KE1HA: Did you mean rsync, or is "rzync" another program I don't know?
[09:22] <KE1HA> Yes
[09:23] <KE1HA> zsync is diffrent, Im not sure if it has a resume or not.
[09:23] <whysoserious> milen8204 I have the website so you can add the app of the download manager
[09:23] <KE1HA> I ment rsync
[09:23] <whysoserious> I dont know if I can post here
[09:23] <whysoserious> Can I???
[09:23] <bazhang> whysoserious, no
[09:23] <papi> dasei: th file or the directory does no exist
[09:23] <whysoserious> ooooww
[09:23] <TrentonAdams> anyone have ideas for me on why my system won't boot with raid?  I have to manually assemble the raid after it drops to a shell.  I've run update-grub and update-initramfs
[09:23] <milen8204> whysoserious, thanks
[09:24] <KE1HA> kwtm, I thin for using zsync you need a (.zsync) file association as well, but not 100% on that.
[09:24] <pavi> A video n00b question : I have videos from camera in .mov format how do I convert it to a free format prefarably ogg using mencoder ?
[09:24] <papi> any other solution?
[09:24] <rww> KE1HA: it does resume by nature, and does need a .zsync file
[09:24] <DasEi> papi: one word ahead : not all files can be run in wine, now whole story, what do you want to achieve ? which programm  / function ?
[09:24] <TrentonAdams> pavi, do you want a scriptable way?  Or a GUI that uses mencoder?
[09:25] <ezrafree_> anyone know if a usb wifi adapter by Tenda will work in Ubuntu?
[09:25] <KE1HA> rww, TNX I dont use it much, didn't know if it had a resume or not.
[09:25] <papi> dasei: it worked when it was in cd live session
[09:25] <kwtm> pavi: I am familiar with that.  Basically, "mencoder -o MyOutfile.avi MyInfile.mov", or whatever extension you need.  There are many options you can use.  I'll paste in the one that I use the most.
[09:25] <DasEi> papi: what worked ?
[09:25] <whysoserious> Dadei is female?
[09:25] <whysoserious> dasei
[09:25] <papi> dasei: the setup file with wine
[09:26] <whysoserious> Probably not
[09:26] <bazhang> whysoserious, stop that
[09:26] <whysoserious> what?
[09:26] <rww> whysoserious: the gender of channel members has nothing to do with you.
[09:26] <pavi> kwtm, yes thats the syntax but is ogg is the output video formats ?
[09:26] <bazhang> whysoserious, being offtopic.
[09:26] <whysoserious> o.O
[09:26] <DasEi> whysoserious: stop that, or you'll be removed , I ignore you now
[09:26] <whysoserious> OK, I am done.
[09:26] <kwtm> pavi: Trying to remember: when --hang on.  I'm going to castigatge whysoserious
[09:26] <whysoserious> Right
[09:26] <pavi> ok
[09:27] <DasEi> papi : good sign, so let's get it done, open a terminal..
[09:27] <papi> dasei: ok
[09:27] <kwtm> whysoserious: People are seriously warning you: you need to stop talking/typing in this channel because you are being rude.  Please figure out what you are doing wrong (READ what people are telling you) and then correct your behaviour or the ops will prevent you from typing.
[09:27] <DasEi> papi : where is the file ? Desktop ?
[09:27] <whysoserious> I am quiet here now
[09:28] <papi> dasei: in a usb hardrive
[09:28] <sacarlson> papi: DasEi: as DasEi asked you before what is you windows exe file/package you try to run do?
[09:28] <kwtm> pavi: Sorry.  Anyway -- Ogg is a container format, and most files named "*.ogg" are actually Ogg VORBIS, which is an audio format.  Trying to rmember what the video format is called.
[09:28] <DasEi> papi : sudo mkdir driver
[09:28] <rww> kwtm, pavi: theora
[09:28] <pavi> Kwpolska, ogv format I guess
[09:28] <kwtm> pavi: Got it:  Ogg Theora is the video format.  Having said that, I don't know how to get Theora on mencoder.
[09:28] <Kwpolska> pavi: what?
[09:28] <DasEi> papi : sudo fdisk -l  (-l is lower L)
[09:28] <llutz> kwtm: ogm ogg-video
[09:28] <papi> sacarlson: yes
[09:29] <DasEi> papi : which device is the usb  ?
[09:29] <anditosan> I got a zen vision m which is not being detected on kubuntu, I can't see it when I do lsusb. I do mtp-detect and get: no raw found
[09:29] <rww> Kwpolska: mistab, I'd guess
[09:29] <pavi> kwtm, llutz  I want the video as free . no propreitary formats involved
[09:29] <kwtm> kwtm: In fact, my mencoder does not play Ogg Vorbis files.  Probably needs some library installed.  But yes, presumably you would use the "-ovc ogg-video" option.  Hang on, let me look up.
[09:29] <DasEi> papi : /dev/sd...
[09:29] <papi> dasei: the external hard drive
[09:29] <DasEi> papi : sudo fdisk -l  (-l is lower L)
[09:29] <whysoserious> I Have a question fr you big brains
[09:29] <DasEi> papi : which device is the usb  ?
[09:30] <whysoserious> I Lost my entire HD 500Gb
[09:30] <papi> /media/usb0/Julio/Programas/UT4063/Utility
[09:30] <papi> dasei: /media/usb0/Julio/Programas/UT4063/Utility
[09:30] <whysoserious> An, there is a solution of get back my files sing Linux?
[09:30] <rww> ubottu: recover | whysoserious
[09:31] <DasEi> papi : sudo cp /media/usb0/Julio/Programas/UT4063/Utility/setup.exe /driver
[09:31] <DasEi> papi : sudo cp /media/usb0/Julio/Programas/UT4063/Utility/setup.exe    /driver
[09:31] <kwtm> pavi: Okay, buried deep in the mplayer man pages (which I had to specifically reformat to make them understandable) is this: "vcodec=libtheora".  Now let me look up how to use that info...
[09:31] <whysoserious> The entire HD war formated just once, and I am preventing this HD of using, so I can have more chances of recover my files entire with no messing
[09:31] <KE1HA> I got lost on this one, what's he trying to do ?
[09:31] <pavi> kwtm, llutz  Is http://oggconvert.tristanb.net/ available ?
[09:31] <whysoserious> *was
[09:31] <DasEi> papi : cd /driver
[09:31] <Jordan_U> pavi: You probably want to use ffmpeg rather than mencoder, or for an easier solution "oggconvert"
[09:31] <DasEi> papi : ls
[09:31] <DasEi> papi : file there ?
[09:32] <papi> dasei: done what's netx
[09:32] <whysoserious> It was NTFS partition, then entire Hard Disk, its an odd. In ext3 you lost forever?
[09:32] <anditosan> I got a zen vision m which is not being detected on kubuntu, I can't see it when I do lsusb. I do mtp-detect and get: no raw found
[09:32] <DasEi> papi : file there ?
[09:32] <kiamo> why does amarok need acess to kdewallet every time I start it?
[09:32] <pavi> Jordan_U, I don't want anything to do with ffmpeg . I am better off with oggconvert . strange that mencoder doesn't support IRONY !!
[09:32] <papi> dasei: setup.exe
[09:32] <kwtm> pavi: Okay, I see that you're supposed to put "mencoder -<codec>opts vcodec=libtheora", replacing "<codec>" with the actual codec, but I don't know what that is yet.
[09:33] <DasEi> papi: is the setup.exe in /driver  ?ah, good
[09:33] <DasEi> papi: using lucid ?
[09:33] <whysoserious> Exile seems amarok, with you use gnome you do not have to install amarok kiamo
[09:33] <Zhorik> Î÷åíü íóæíà ïîìîùü â óñòàíîâêè ìîäåìà E1750
[09:33] <kwtm> pavi: Probably something like "mencoder -lavcopts vcodec=libtheora", but I don't know if the "lavc" codec supports libtheora.
[09:33] <DasEi> papi: chown $User setup.exe
[09:33] <bazhang> !ru | Zhorik
[09:33] <DasEi> papi: chown $USERser setup.exe
[09:33] <kwtm> kiamo: Because the KDE designers think it's cool to force you to use the MySQL database to run KDE. :P
[09:33] <Jordan_U> pavi: mencoder was designed from the begginning for the avi container, it's not greate with other formats (ffmpeg is though, and the syntax is practically identical).
[09:34] <DasEi> papi: chown $USER setup.exe    ,Typoking^ ^
[09:34] <papi> dasei: /media/usb0/Julio/Programas/UT4063/Utility ubuntu 10.04
[09:34] <kwtm> pavi: Yes, it's available.  Check http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=oggconvert&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all
[09:34] <kiamo> whysoserious, sorry I didn't understand :(
[09:34] <DasEi> papi: chown $USER setup.exe   , done ?
[09:34] <pavi> kwtm, yeah got it . installing it
[09:34] <kiamo> kwtm, lol there must be a reason...
[09:34] <kwtm> pavi: In fact, you might find the general ubuntu packages check page useful.
[09:35] <kwtm> kiamo: Well, it is fairly powerful.  But so much for KDE not being bloated. :)
[09:35] <papi> dasei: is mising something
[09:35] <DasEi> papi: you are in /driver         directory ?
[09:35] <whysoserious> I had this entire HD with multimedia, bunch of stuff and 2 operating systems, so I went to resize some partition and the movement ends with Shit
[09:36] <bazhang> whysoserious, watch the language
[09:36] <papi> dasei: /media/usb0/Julio/Programas/UT4063/Utility
[09:36] <DasEi> papi: please answer my questions :)
[09:36] <DasEi> papi: you are in /driver         directory ?
[09:37] <whysoserious> So, I search for some tutorials that what said to me that I dont have to use this HD for recover but to take another one and save back to there
[09:37] <papi> dasei: yes
[09:37] <DasEi> papi: sudo chown $USER setup.exe   , done ?
[09:37] <DasEi> papi: your location ?
[09:37] <whysoserious> Understood? So I am preventing this HD of being used, because its more easy to recover thefiles without any lost
[09:37] <karlo> how to change number of workspaces in terminal ?
[09:37] <papi> dasei: /media/usb0/Julio/Programas/UT4063/Utility
[09:37] <whysoserious> Finally
[09:38] <DasEi> papi: please answer my questions :)
[09:38] <DasEi> papi: your location ?
[09:38] <bazhang> whysoserious, you were given some links. Please read them.
[09:38] <papi> dasei: that's the location
[09:38] <DasEi> papi: geography, needed for repo coming.. spain, Us..
[09:38] <papi> dasei: ooooooohhhhh
[09:39] <whysoserious> Can I recover not the expecifycally any files, like .JPEG ,DOC ,BMP, but the entire folder, like My documents or something.......................
[09:39] <DasEi> never hearrd of ..
[09:39] <whysoserious> Thats the point
[09:39] <papi> dasei: santiago, Dominican Rep.
[09:39] <bazhang> !recover | whysoserious read these
[09:39] <whysoserious> Recover not the type of file... but the entire bunch
[09:39] <bazhang> whysoserious, stop repeating and do some reading of links
[09:39] <whysoserious> Yes, I got the links
[09:39] <KE1HA> whysoserious, short answer, yes you can, you can DD your data partitions off the drive, but you need someone local knowledgeable enough to perform the task.
[09:40] <DasEi> papi:http://pastebin.com/ACpwxm6j  ,one command in one line
[09:40] <whysoserious> Wait there is more
[09:40] <whysoserious> I heard that you even can recover an entire partition
[09:40] <KE1HA> whysoserious, That's the answer to your problem.
[09:41] <whysoserious> Keiha is male i supose
[09:41] <whysoserious> I got it
[09:41] <KE1HA> I've not descided what I am, but that's nothign to do with your problem.
[09:41] <DasEi> papi: this will give you a better wine in few seconds
[09:41] <kiamo> amarok won't see my music :\  I changed the collection directory in prefs and rescanned but it didn't add anything.  Is there something else I have to do?
[09:41] <DasEi> pai  : repo added ?
[09:42] <papi> dasei: Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys F9CB8DB0
[09:42] <papi> gpg: solicitando clave F9CB8DB0 de hkp servidor keyserver.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <papi> gpg: clave F9CB8DB0: clave pública "Launchpad PPA for Ubuntu Wine Team" importada
[09:42] <papi> gpg: Cantidad total procesada: 1
[09:42] <papi> gpg:               importadas: 1  (RSA: 1)
[09:42] <FloodBot2> papi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:42] <papi> ok
[09:42] <kiamo> nm, it just took ages to refresh
[09:42] <kwtm> kiamo: Okay, so it's working?  I use Amarok also, although I liked the KDE3 version better.
[09:42] <DasEi> !paste papi : , a simple yes would have benn k, too
[09:42] <DasEi> !paste | papi : , a simple yes would have benn k, too
[09:42] <KE1HA> DasEi, +1 :-)
[09:43] <kermit> !pastebinit
[09:43] <papi> sorry im'm new
[09:43] <DasEi> papi : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:43] <kwtm> papi: WHy are you giving us the output of that command when it was successful and basically there was no problem?  Never mind, other people have beat me to it saying the same thing.
[09:44] <kiamo> kwtm, yea its seems to be working, although it doesn't feel like its well integrated into ubuntu.  My media keys on the keyboard don't work with it, and its a bit sluggish.
[09:44] <papi> does anybody have team viewer?
[09:44] <whysoserious> How to get on the pt channel?
[09:44] <whysoserious> into
[09:44] <DasEi> papi : update through ?
[09:44] <cofffeee> Where can I get intltool 0.35.0 or later?
[09:45] <bazhang> whysoserious, /join #ubuntu-br  /join #ubuntu-pt
[09:45] <papi> dasei: working
[09:45] <whysoserious> And
[09:45] <kwtm> kiamo: My media keys to work.  So there's hope, although I found there was a LOT of reconfiguring needed for Kubuntu KDE4 before it worked decently.
[09:45] <DasEi> papi: nice, say when done
[09:45] <whysoserious> Where I paste this link?
[09:45] <yunintegral> there is any simple and easy draw tool? like windows default draw tool
[09:45] <kwtm> whysoserious: That is the 3rd time you have asked and been answered, not counting the private messages I sent you.
[09:45] <DasEi> papi : if wine was installed before, will have the updated version after this procedure
[09:45] <whysoserious> Well
[09:46] <whysoserious> As you banned me, so I look you message
[09:46] <whysoserious> First time i've ever rea a private  message
[09:46] <papi> dasei: i installed today
[09:46] <kwtm> whysoserious: If you type "/join #ubuntu-pt", then instead of those words appearing on screen, you will end up joining the #ubuntu-pt channel.  So, please say this: /join #ubuntu-pt
[09:46] <whysoserious> An first time I understood this layout of this channel program.....
[09:46] <whysoserious> ok?
[09:46] <papi> dasei: don't you have team viewer?
[09:46] <kwtm> Did you type it yet?  /join #ubuntu-pt
[09:47] <DasEi> papi : so it'll be then, sorry, not team view here
[09:47] <bazhang> !test
[09:47] <KE1HA> Go To Gate, Open gate, Go Through gate, Close gate, Run Run Run :-)
[09:47] <whysoserious> right bottom and go to th channel, simple
[09:47] <milen8204> i have download one game caled Savage 2 now i have this file Savage2Install-2.1.0-i686.bin , How to instal it ?
[09:47] <whysoserious> And you making all that mess.
[09:47] <whysoserious> I got it now, thanks for all.
[09:48] <iceroot> milen8204: chmod +x Savage2Install-2.1.0-i686.bin  then just type ./Savage2Install-2.1.0-i686.bin
[09:48] <papi> dasei: is quicker if you download team viewer than wating for the updates
[09:48] <milen8204> ok thanks a lot
[09:48] <whysoserious> none online, must be because is 5:48 A.M.
[09:49] <kwtm> bazhang: Is that whysoserious?
[09:49] <kwtm> The ban, I mean.
[09:49] <KE1HA> Was more like ;-)
[09:49] <bazhang> mute
[09:49] <papi> dasei: it's 50 minutes
[09:49] <kiamo> kwtm, Im not using kubuntu, just regular ubuntu.
[09:50] <DasEi> papi : slow connection so, well , updates are neccesary for a consistent OS..
[09:50] <kwtm> kiamo: Behind the scenes there's not that much difference.  Hmm, I wonder if it affects the media keys.
[09:50] <kiamo> kwtm, should I consider installing kubuntu if I want kde apps to run better?
[09:50] <kwtm> kiamo: You can do this: go to Amarok and configure shortcuts.  When it says "what key do you want to use for Play?" or whatever, just press your media key.
[09:50] <papi> dasei: i installed it today
[09:51] <DasEi> papi : newermind, when it's done it should just be wine setup.exe now, if the defaults on live where used, too
[09:51] <DasEi> nevermind, I'm really a typoking today, papi
[09:51] <kwtm> kiamo: I don't think you need to have KDE... with KDE the KDE apps work better between them; e.g. if you want to cut and paste from (say) Kolourpaint into Kmail, or something, but just using Kolourpaint itself or Kmail itself should be the same in KDE and GNOME.
[09:51] <megabraker> how to close an open port ?
[09:51] <sacarlson> DasEi: what is that setup.exe application papi is trying to install?
[09:51] <kwtm> megabraker: ?? Explain.  Open port?
[09:52] <DasEi> megabraker: man ufw tells you
[09:52] <zfmf> he guys i try to install php5-clamavlib but i get the message not found, must i activate a another source ? the universe sources are activated or is it called different on lucid lynx anyone an ideA?
[09:52] <megabraker> how to close open port 3520 in ubuntu lynx 10.04 ?
[09:53] <DasEi> sacarlson: a driver I don't know more about, but pap.. said it worked under live-cd, so I left him whole story then
[09:53] <papi> sacarlson: connect to a router for downloading bittorrent with the computer off
[09:53] <megabraker> i know there is a one in backtrack but i forgoten it
[09:53] <megabraker> :(
[09:53] <kwtm> megabraker: What DasEi said.  You can use ufw (uncomplicated firewall).  I'm not that familiar with it so I'll let DasEi tell more.
[09:53] <dany_> can you tell me if exists a library that reassembly http packets starting from tcp packets?
[09:53] <kwtm> zfmf: No such package --is that not the exact package name?
[09:53] <megabraker> k
[09:54] <sacarlson> papi: I don't think you need it.  I do bitorrent all the time don't need any windows stuf to do it.
[09:54] <DasEi> megabraker : which port ? whch protocol ?
[09:54] <kwtm> zfmf: I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205724
[09:54] <megabraker> DasEi port 3520/tcp
[09:54] <kwtm> zfmf: Looks like you do add another repository.
[09:54] <th3hate> any way to umount "/" to repartition hardisk?
[09:55] <kermit> dany_: i use sniffit
[09:55] <iceroot> th3hate: use a live-cd
[09:55] <DasEi> megabraker: sudo ufw deny 3520/tcp
[09:55] <papi> sarcarlson: i do with my pc off
[09:55] <zfmf> kwtm: thanks ;)
[09:55] <kwtm> th3hate: I doubt it.  You'd have to reboot using a live-cd so that "/" is not your current hard disk.  But you can't do it while you've booted from your current hard disk.
[09:55] <DasEi> th3hate: use live cd
[09:55] <sacarlson> papi: I think if there is any hope for you project you will need to run windows like in virtualbox.  but good luck
[09:55] <megabraker> DasEi could this port be opened when an up need to work on it?
[09:56] <th3hate> can i edit ext4 partition from windows?
[09:56] <DasEi> megabraker: remotely by ssh, sure or again by ufw allow, yes
[09:56] <sabgenton> you can edit  ext3
[09:56] <kwtm> th3hate: Depends on the software.  Maybe Partition Magic can do it?
[09:56] <papi> sacarlosn: but it worked with live cd why not now
[09:56] <Jordan_U> th3hate: Not easily, but it's possible.
[09:56] <DasEi> th3hate: no, and also not read subdirs, ext3 can be /read/write in win, but not resized
[09:57] <sabgenton> possibley it might detect/mout as ext3
[09:57] <sacarlson> papi: you installed wine in live cd?
[09:57] <th3hate> i don't have any live cd's ... so no way to resize ubuntu partition?
[09:57] <megabraker> ok thanks but this is not what am searching , lets try again is there any command to show the process that openes a specific port?
[09:57] <papi> sacarlson: yes
[09:57] <sacarlson> papi: well then I must be wrong.  goog luck
[09:57] <sabgenton> hey whats a command to check what groups user bob belongs to
[09:57] <kwtm> th3hate: How did you install Ubuntu?  From Wubi?
[09:58] <DasEi> th3hate: usb stick least one gb handy ?
[09:58] <sabgenton> or do I just have to less /etc/group
[09:58] <sabgenton> ?
[09:58] <papi> sacarlson: thanks
[09:58] <sabgenton> nice command?
[09:58] <iceroot> sabgenton: id bob
[09:59] <th3hate>  i have mint virtualbox running on windows, can i resize ubuntu's partition from there?
[09:59] <kwtm> th3hate: Resizing a hard disk partition while you're using it is like trying to fix a car while you're driving it.  It's not feasible.  Can you download a Ubuntu 10.04 CD (only 700MB)?  If not, you can buy programs like PartitionMagic or Partition Expert.
[09:59] <DasEi> megabraker: there is, but I think you don't get iptables..
[09:59] <kwtm> th3hate: It doesn't matter what software you are running.  As long as you are using the hard drive to boot, you can't fiddle with the hard drive (at least, not with that partition that you booted from).
[09:59] <Jordan_U> th3hate: You can boot from an iso file without burning it to disk with grub2, with a distribution that supports loading completely to RAM, and resize from there.
[10:00] <megabraker> k
[10:00] <sabgenton> nice
[10:00] <th3hate> Jordan_U: thanks
[10:00] <KE1HA> sabgenton, grep developers /etc/group   for example.
[10:00] <sabgenton> iceroot what does the number represent in  groups=number
[10:00] <Jordan_U> th3hate: You're welcome.
[10:00] <DasEi> megabraker: iptables controls the behaviour of your firewall, that means how a port will react on in or outgoing traffic, an app itself connects to a certain port, if blocked, it will fail
[10:01] <KE1HA> sabgenton, to add sombody: useradd -G developers sombody
[10:01] <iceroot> sabgenton: the gid, the number of the group
[10:01] <sabgenton> KE1HA: I like  id better :)
[10:01] <KE1HA> Ok cool
[10:01] <megabraker> DasEi the connection will be blocked but the port would still accesible localy
[10:01] <sabgenton> oh it was the first numbeer
[10:01] <sabgenton> the users number
[10:02] <sabgenton> see
[10:02] <papi> Sorry it's too late for me good night
[10:02] <sabgenton> iceroot: thanks :D
[10:02] <DasEi> megabraker: no, if you block a port, there will be neither acces nor a response (drop)
[10:02] <KE1HA> just do id username
[10:02] <Rocky> does anyone know what libnl does?
[10:02] <megabraker> DasEi from localhost
[10:03] <DasEi> megabraker: no, if blocked, no pass through the blocked port
[10:04] <iceroot> Rocky: library for dealing with netlink sockets
[10:04] <megabraker> ok
[10:04] <KE1HA> libnl is a library for applications dealing with netlink sockets
[10:04] <Rocky> It does not comple for me for a ppc target
[10:04] <KE1HA> Man, my inet is SLOW
[10:04] <sabgenton> what is the sudo group for
[10:05] <DasEi> !sudo
[10:05] <sabgenton> I knotice it has all permisions
[10:05] <KE1HA> doing sudo things
[10:05] <sabgenton> like admin
[10:05] <KE1HA> yes
[10:05] <DasEi> sabgenton: root privilegs
[10:06] <sabgenton> yeah but %admin in /etc/sudoers  give users root privileges
[10:06] <KE1HA> sabgenton, :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:06] <sabgenton> why is there  a %sudo with all access aswell?
[10:06] <KE1HA> sabgenton, not on a RootSudo system t doen't, root is effectivly disabled.
[10:07] <DasEi> megabraker: FYI, netstat might be worth a look, and also search web for iptables
[10:07] <megabraker> DasEi netstat -lup
[10:07] <sabgenton> huh
[10:07] <megabraker> *-tupl
[10:07] <sabgenton> I no the root account is disabled
[10:08] <sabgenton> know
[10:09] <Jordan_U> sabgenton: Note the comment in front of that line in /etc/sudoers, it's just an example.
[10:10] <KE1HA> sabgenton, another option, create a custom group, and give them access or control over things you want specifically.
[10:10] <sabgenton> Jordan_U: hmm I'm on ubuntu server that maybe why
[10:10] <sabgenton> %sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL
[10:10] <sabgenton> is uncommented on server lucid
[10:11] <sabgenton> don't know why cause theres nothing under the sudo group
[10:11] <Jordan_U> sabgenton: Are you sure that's not a local modification?
[10:13] <ciphersson1> has any one else had problems running 10.04 with  a ATI Radeon Express 200M?
[10:13] <wolc> hey guys, my wireless is not working, i need some help, using a broadcom wireless, the driver is activated and also installed the bcmwl-kernel package from synaptic
[10:13] <wolc> what do i do
[10:13] <wolc> ?
[10:14] <erUSUL> System>admin>hardware drivers wolc
[10:14] <Jordan_U> wolc: Try de-activating the bcmwl driver and activate the b43 driver.
[10:15] <wolc> Jordan_U: b43 driver is that something i have to install?
[10:15] <wolc> Jordan_U: from the synaptic i mean
[10:15] <ciphersson1> whenever my laptop goes in to hibernation after i get it out of hibernation Ubuntu keeps on making the display messed up and makes horizontal lines on the screen and displacing everything on the screen and the only way to get rid of it is by restarting the computer
[10:15] <wolc> erUSUL: the hardware driver is already activated
[10:15] <Jordan_U> wolc: It should be an option in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers (which will then install and setup the package b43-fwcutter).
[10:16] <wolc> Jordan_U:  so i should uninstall the bcwml package and then reinstal the hardware driver?
[10:16] <ra100> hi, i´ve just found PPA for the newest kernel 2.6.35 in Lucid Lynx- https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid
[10:16] <ra100> have you anybody tried it yet?
[10:16] <Jordan_U> wolc: Do you have two options in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[10:17] <ra100> any issues?
[10:17] <shleda> hi, is there a way to overcome broken dependency issues in ubuntu?
[10:17] <Jordan_U> !details | shleda
[10:17] <skysurfer37> morning all
[10:17] <shleda> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:18] <shleda>   php5-xdebug: Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.14-0.dotdeb.0) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2 is to be installed
[10:18] <shleda> E: Broken packages
[10:18] <wolc> Jordan_U: jus checked the hardware driver section and now my wireless doesn't even show up there!!!!
[10:19] <shleda> Jordan_U: I am trying to install php5-xdebug package and all I see is this -> The following packages have unmet dependencies:   php5-xdebug: Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.14-0.dotdeb.0) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[10:20] <Jordan_U> shleda: Remove the dotdeb repository and any packages you've installed / upgraded from there.
[10:20] <skysurfer37> guys is this just a help page for people or is it genral ubuntu chat as well
[10:20] <erUSUL> !ot | skysurfer37
[10:22] <shleda> Jordan_U: Thanks, am ashamed, I didnt pay attention to the message
[10:22] <Jordan_U> shleda: np.
[10:23] <shleda> Jordan_U: I also see this message after I install some thing from apt-get -> W: Unable to read /etc/apt/preferences.d/ - FileExists (2: No such file or directory)
[10:24] <shleda> there was a prefrences.d folder I renamed it but I still see this message
[10:24] <erUSUL> shleda: sudo mkdir -p /etc/apt/preferences.d/
[10:25] <shleda> erUSUL: there was a folder but I renamed it
[10:25] <erUSUL> why?
[10:25] <chelz> shleda: why did you rename it?
[10:26] <xitocala> what channel takes care of nick problems?
[10:26] <chelz> xitocala: #freenode
[10:26] <xitocala> thnks
[10:26] <shleda> ummm...just out of curiosity :(
[10:27] <chelz> shleda: if you haven't gotten a message before, then you change something and you start getting a message *with* the name of something you changed in the message, the cause might be what you changed :P
[10:27] <shleda> chelz: right said fred, I will check it
[10:28] <chelz> i should check on 10.04.1
[10:30] <KE1HA> chelz, +1 .. Im writing that one down :-)
[10:30] <sabgenton> Jordan_U: unless the installer ask me or something I haven't touched /etc/sudoers
[10:30] <chelz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[10:31] <chelz> 10.04.1 LTS on  August 17th (Tuesday)
[10:31] <sabgenton> Jordan_U: commented or not I'm just interested to why there is a %sudo group
[10:31] <sabgenton> when %admin does what you need
[10:31] <Jordan_U> sabgenton: I don't know, I'm curious now also :)
[10:32] <sabgenton> :P
[10:32] <chelz> maybe stuff left over from debian
[10:32] <dragenov> hi I want to use sub2srt perl script but when i choose to open I doesn't   run what should Ido?
[10:32] <chelz> since i'm pretty sure debian uses a sudo group
[10:32] <sabgenton> hmm
[10:32] <chelz> dragenov: pastebin what your terminal says when you try to run it
[10:33] <sabgenton> why something has uncomented it in my /etc/sudoers
[10:33] <sabgenton> alludes me
[10:33] <ghisen> Hi, anyone know where i can find drivers for Realtek 8112L network card? I was surprised that ubuntu did not have drivers for it because its the card on Asus most common motherboards today....
[10:33] <chelz> not sure. it is commented in mine
[10:35] <Kartagis> !info php5-clamavlib
[10:35] <sacarlson> ghisen: does system>administration>hardware drivers  show anything?
[10:36] <Laggg> why is my terminal all greyed out?
[10:36] <KE1HA> ghisen, Have a look here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/no-network-detected-realtek-8111-8168-issue-615047/#post3029998
[10:37] <chelz> ghisen: http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1465703
[10:37] <chelz> actually yeah, that other post is better
[10:37] <chelz> ghisen: disregard my link
[10:37] <ghisen> okay
[10:38] <ghisen> KE1HA, ok thank you
[10:38] <KE1HA> ghisen, Im suprised as well. Sever a forums reported positive results on the script.
[10:38] <KE1HA> Several*
[10:38] <JustSimplyBob> I have a permissions problem I can't get around. I am creating a GRUB partition. All I have to do is copy the grub.cfg to the partition. I am using a boot flash drive to make everything. It says I can not copy the file b/c I don't have permission to. How do I get permission?
[10:39] <ghisen> KE1HA, i will have a go at it when i get home
[10:40] <chelz> JustSimplyBob: sudo
[10:40] <DasEi> JustSimplyBob: you can prefix the cp -command with sudo
[10:40] <howlymowly> hi poeple... is it somehow possible to run ubuntu software center in kde without crashing itß
[10:40] <howlymowly> ?
[10:40] <DasEi> howlymowly: #kubuntu ; softwrecenter should run there, system up - to date ?
[10:41] <sabgenton> yes
[10:41] <howlymowly> jupp...  my software center runs...  but when installing an applications it immediatly crashs with a segmentation fault after sudo authentication
[10:41] <sabgenton> oh
[10:42] <sabgenton> don't know
[10:42] <russellNNNN> Please help -  screen blanks after short period of use 10.4 -
[10:42] <howlymowly> DasEi: although it still manages to install the application..
[10:42] <sabgenton> sorry
[10:42] <KE1HA> ghisen, I have an Asus A6V Lappy, did not have any trouble, although, I don't recall the exact NIC, but my server board are all Asus, and I've never had UB Nic issuers with any of them.
[10:42] <DasEi> howlymowly: start it from terminal as root and paste the error output from the trml
[10:43] <soby> digital projector not detected in ubuntu 10.04?? help needed....
[10:45] <SauLus> Hi, I lost the root-pw at some of my machines and need to restore it. I dont want to boot by cd, edit /etc/password, I've heard about the init=/bin/sh trick. But this does not seem to work with grub2, right? How do I regain control of the root account?
[10:46] <Rocky> soby,  which digital projector?
[10:46] <soby> rocky: ordinary projector ....:)
[10:46] <Rocky> which make/model
[10:46] <DasEi> SauLus: can try boot singlemode, if not disabled and change pass there
[10:47] <soby> rocky: dunno dude
[10:47] <soby> is that necessary
[10:47] <soby> ?
[10:47] <SauLus> DasEi: right, thats nice. ty - I totally forgot
[10:47] <Rocky> yeah, u need to connect it through some interface like/ usb/firewire/hdmi
[10:48] <Rocky> and the respective drivers have to be present to be able to use it
[10:48] <soby> rocky: i need to connect throug display port
[10:48] <howlymowly> hmm...  DasEi:  it runs as sudo without any problems...  it just crashs when running it as user
[10:49] <howlymowly> i get some warnings before the crash, when running at as user, though...   "WARNING:root:No styling hints for Raleigh were found... using Human hints." DasEi,
[10:49] <DasEi> howlymowly: see... you will have a permissionproblem then, as it can install soft, need it for that
[10:49] <Rocky> soby, r u next to the box now
[10:49] <Rocky> r u connected now
[10:50] <DasEi> howlymowly: the second complains about libs for themes not found, a question for #kubuntu
[10:50] <deploy> Does anyone else have problems with windows occasionally disappearing (remain running but become impossible to see/focus) after using Show Desktop in Compiz?
[10:50] <sacarlson> soby: I'm sure you tried having the monitor/projector pluged into your system and powered up at boot time of you computer yes?
[10:50] <soby> rocky: no
[10:50] <soby> sacarlson: yea
[10:50] <Rocky> U can cycle through through working resolutions using "Ctrl Alt + " and " Ctrl Alt -"
[10:50] <Rocky> and see if it works
[10:51] <soby> rocky: okke
[10:51] <Rocky> if not you might have to add entries to X11 configs
[10:53] <soby> rocky: how abt if i want to connect another display??
[10:53] <soby> rocky: i meant monitor
[10:55] <_ikke_> I have a HP DV6 2030sd laptop, and have trouble to get my microphone to work (both internal as external). You can find information about my soundcard here: http://bit.ly/clfBRp. I'm running Ubuntu 10.4. I have tried to look for the problem on google, but I don't know where to look for. Can anybody guide me to the right direction?
[10:57] <sacarlson> rocky: soby: I think the new xserver does some smart stuf that  reads the model of the display and uses that info to setup  the driver configs.  I had problems with a samsung monitor cause the software didn't recognize the name and didn't know how to set it up.  you can see what it tried and what it sees in /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and maybe w
[10:58] <soby> sacarlson: oke..i will check it
[10:58] <aXING> 有说汉语到吗
[10:59] <erUSUL> !cn
[10:59] <TechMiX> !cn
[11:00] <bullgard> [GNOME 2.30] On an external  USB hard disk I created a new directory and named it »Music«. I'd like to appear it in Nautilus having a one-note emblem in Nautilus  just as the directory »Music« in ~. Right-click does not offer thid emblem. Where to copy it from?
[11:01] <bullgard> s/thid/this/
[11:02] <erUSUL> bullgard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65896 <<< add new emblems ?
[11:03] <xitocala> how do I verify sasl is working properly?
[11:03] <AlexC_> morning
[11:03] <AlexC_> my /tmp is mounted with options 'nosuid,noexec' - I've just created a bash script in /tmp and set it to executable - yet I can still run it, why is this?
[11:04] <erUSUL> AlexC_: how did you run it ?
[11:05] <bullgard> erUSUL: The procedure which you suggest, does not work. As I said: " Right-click does not offer this emblem."
[11:05] <AlexC_> erUSUL: '. /tmp/foobar'
[11:06] <erUSUL> AlexC_: so you sourced the script you di not executed it ...
[11:06] <P3n7A> hello
[11:06] <erUSUL> AlexC_: ". /tmp/foobar" is not the same as "./tmp/foobar" spaces are very iomportant in command line
[11:07] <AlexC_> erUSUL: true, true. Thanks :)
[11:07] <erUSUL> AlexC_: no problem
[11:07] <P3n7A> need some help please
[11:07] <erUSUL> !ask
[11:07] <xitocala> bullgard: on the folder, right click, open emblem tab, scroll down to the note img
[11:07] <P3n7A> ok
[11:08] <xitocala> how do I verify sasl is working properly?
[11:08] <SauLus> DasEi: the single mode setting also asks for the maintainance=root password.
[11:08] <P3n7A> got some problem  with sound not playing on virtual box guest OS(guest OS is Win2k3) host OS is ubuntu 10.04
[11:09] <DasEi> SauLus: that can be on security orientated systems, so no other way then live > chroot
[11:09] <SauLus> there isnt any grub switch that forces single mode without the ubuntu recovery menu?
[11:10] <P3n7A> Saulus: 1 or Single will do that...
[11:10] <sacarlson> P3n7A: did you give the guest os rights in virtualbox to use the sound?
[11:10] <DasEi> SauLus: no, you could pass single to the default kernel, but if if root is protected, it's same there
[11:11] <nk> Hi - I'm having some trouble with loading a java applet in firefox. I get the error "start applet not initialized" in the firefox status bar. Most other java applets (inc testers) work fine... Just my trading platform applet doesn't... Funny thing is that it works fine on my other ubuntu machine. Any ideas why this is? Thanks
[11:11] <P3n7A> sacarlson: how do I do that?
[11:11] <Rocky> I have static allocation of my hard-drive partitions. Will I be able to install over it now
[11:11] <SauLus> ok, ill have another try
[11:11] <Rocky> I have static allocation of my hard-drive partitions. Will I be able to install LVM over it now
[11:11] <janicko> Hello, i need a help no set a wireless router. It is being recognised, it even saing that is connected, but i can't connect to internet and when i press on connection information it show me the speed of 54 mb/s, what with wired connection should be 100. And it is ok that with wireless connection it is showing diferent ip?
[11:12] <sacarlson> P3n7A: in the virtualbox setup.  what version of virtualbox you have installed?
[11:12] <Jordan_U> SauLus: init=/bin/bash should work.
[11:12] <Rocky> sacarlson, thanks on the Xserver info
[11:13] <SauLus> Jordan_U: where do i add this to grub2? ive treied it several times
[11:13] <erUSUL> Rocky: without reformatting ? keeping existing data? no that i know of
[11:13] <sacarlson> P3n7A: when you first start virtualbox you select the guest you want to modify settings there you will see sound settings make sure that is enabled
[11:13] <bullgard> xitocala: Music > right-click > Properties > (Music Properties) > Emblems does not offer what you suggested. Rather it offers »Sound« and »Multimedia« which have a double note.
[11:14] <Jordan_U> SauLus: Press "e" to edit the menu entry and add it to the list of kernel parameters, after "quite splash " (and on the same line).
[11:14] <erUSUL> bullgard: as i said. go to ggogle find an image you want and add that image to the aviable emblems
[11:14] <erUSUL> bullgard: i find one in openclipart site
[11:14] <P3n7A> sacarlson: sure I checked the Enable Audio Box
[11:14] <Jordan_U> SauLus: Then press ctrl+x to execute the modified entry.
[11:14] <P3n7A> sacarlson:  the vbox version is 3.1.6_OSE
[11:14] <erUSUL> bullgard: i'm sure there are others
[11:14] <sacarlson> rocky:  I thought it was soby who wanted the info.  hope it helped
[11:15] <Rocky> erUSUL, I had to go for this option because the
[11:15] <Rocky> DVD I got for 10.04 did not have any lvm support
[11:16] <SauLus> Jordan_U: thanks for the detailed explanation. i tried it yesterday with sh instead of bash and didnt get it. maybe i did a mistake.
[11:16] <Rocky> sacarlson, I did'nt check the Xserver features recently. It was interesting
[11:16] <Rocky> I will go check sometime
[11:16] <P3n7A> sacarlson: any other idea?
[11:17] <sacarlson> P3n7A:  I use virtualbox version 3.2.6  it works fine with windows xp , vista, and windows 7,  maybe you should try that version.  I never used vbox.
[11:17] <Jordan_U> Rocky: This doesn't help much now, but if you want to install to LVM you need to use the alternate installer, which is available (along with the default "Desktop" installer) on the Ubuntu DVD.
[11:17] <xitocala> bullgard: you want a specific png to suit your specific need?
[11:18] <erUSUL> P3n7A: does the guest od see (as in has the drivers installed etc ...) the sound card emulated by virtualbox ?
[11:18] <Rocky> I did allocate les for by /usr. I am pretty sure, it is going to screem on me within days from now
[11:19] <bullgard> xitocala: I'd like to duplicate the symbol of ~/Music there.
[11:19] <erUSUL> bullgard: http://www.openclipart.org/detail/3864 <<< this one. download svg file drag and drop in nautilus window -> Edit>Emblems and backgrounds
[11:19] <sacarlson> erUSUL: P3n7A:  good point if your windows don't have the drivers installed it may not work.  but windows normaly has sound at start.
[11:20] <bornfree> quick question: where do i join for questions about boot loader files? sorry for interrupting.
[11:20] <SauLus> Jordan_U: it worked fine, ty!
[11:20] <Jordan_U> SauLus: You're welcome.
[11:21] <samblak> s
[11:21] <sacarlson> bornfree:  this is multi tasking you can chat at the same time.  boot loader files like grub2?
[11:21] <bornfree> alright, so i'll just shoot and hope for the best
[11:22] <bornfree> i have a question, i was trying to install 10.04 using a usb, and it seems it installed the boot loader in the usb. i reinstalled it using a live cd, and that installation works fine. but now i have a bootloader in my usb, and i want to do another install. which files on the usb do i delete for grub not to run on the usb?
[11:22] <samblak> f
[11:23] <raven> how to change to utf8 in irc client?
[11:23] <erUSUL> raven: i guess it depends on the irc client you use
[11:23] <acidjazz> im rockin windows 7 .. just installed ubuntu 10.04 desktop w/ workstation 7.1 .. are visual effects in ubuntu/gnome possible?
[11:24] <acidjazz> i do have 3d acceleration enabled in vmware btw
[11:24] <raven> erUSUL, but there is any command to change it
[11:24] <sacarlson> bornfree: you want to boot multi kernels from a single usb flash drive?
[11:24] <xitocala> bullgard: are you using nautilus when you are looking at this folder and is the folder you want to have the 'music' emblem shown to you as an icon? if it is and you right click on same said folder, and click on 'properties' and then click on the 'emblem' tab, and then scroll down, do you not see the 'music' emblem?
[11:24] <goten> KE1HA, I found this  http://rioastamal.net/2008/10/tutorial-how-to-install-apache-ant-on-ubuntu-linux/
[11:24] <erUSUL> raven: no that i know of...
[11:24] <raven> erUSUL, with mirc and xchat it is
[11:24] <bornfree> no, i just want to keep the usb as an install usb, no grub or anything.
[11:25] <janicko> could somebody help me to set wireless route> it is recognized but ia can't connect.
[11:25] <IMI_BAT_JOC> bornfree just format the usb and do it bootable again:D
[11:25] <KE1HA> goten, Ok, I was under the impression you already had LAMP or a web0server installed.
[11:25] <erUSUL> raven: in xchat you configure that in the Server preferences.
[11:26] <erUSUL> raven: crtl + S --> highlight server. choose edit.
[11:26] <goten> KE1HA, yes i installed LAMP
[11:26] <sacarlson> bornfree: well to be an install usb it needs grub or grub2 installed.  after boot you can still mount the partitions on the usb I guess to view the files on it.
[11:26] <KE1HA> goten, but it didn't have the exports for ANT ?
[11:26] <bornfree> sacarlson: problem is i don't have the iso anymore, and the internet is slow as hell today. need to satisfy my urge to keep installing ubuntu on different computers :-!
[11:26] <bullgard> xitocala: No, I do not see it. (I told you that before.)
[11:27] <goten> KE1HA, then what is the problem
[11:27] <KE1HA> goten, Oh, I see, you have to install Apache-Ant, not Apache2
[11:27] <xitocala> bullgard: I can't help you, sorry
[11:28] <KE1HA> goten, that's where your Ant-Libs come from.
[11:28] <bullgard> xitocala: Thank you.
[11:28] <sacarlson> bornfree: so you just want to access the files on the usb flash I guess.  you can still boot your system without you usb installed then plug it in and read the files and I guess create a new iso file or whatever.
[11:28] <navid> hi. anyonecan help me setting vpn connection?
[11:28] <goten> KE1HA, I have apache2 but not apache-ant
[11:29] <KE1HA> Bot good, as the W3 app need Ant
[11:29] <KE1HA> Opps Not good.
[11:29] <goten> I don`t understand
[11:29] <bornfree> alright, i'll restate my question. when i try to use the usb, it tries to search for a hard drive because i guess when i did the first install, it updated the grub on the usb. now when i try to install in another computer using the usb, it tries to find that hdd (which is not there) so it does not go into "live cd" mode.
[11:29] <sacarlson> bornfree: but I think I would wait till you had an iso file.  maybe try bittorent the ubuntu iso.  it might be faster to download that way
[11:29] <bornfree> how do i fix that?
[11:30] <bornfree> bittorrent is not allowed in our univ
[11:30] <KE1HA> goten, The Aoolicaiotn your installing requires Ant Lib's and Apach2 doesnt' have them, it requires Anache-Ant.
[11:30] <KE1HA> Applicaiont*
[11:30] <goten> okay
[11:30] <Jordan_U> bornfree: Try "sudo syslinux /dev/sdX" where sdX is your flash drive, likely "sdb".
[11:30] <IMI_BAT_JOC> use internet download manager(under wine)
[11:30] <navid> hi. anyonecan help me setting vpn connection?
[11:30] <erUSUL> bornfree: i gues you have to actually install grub mbr in the usb disk ( probably in the first machine it got installed in main disks mbr ) ?
[11:30] <goten> KE1HA, do u know how to install apache-ant
[11:31] <Jordan_U> bornfree: But make sure you choose the right device, as choosing the wrong one could make your computer unbootable.
[11:31] <KE1HA> goten, follow the Apache-Ant Web Instrucitons.
[11:31] <janicko> Hello, i need a help no set a wireless router. It is being recognised, it even saing that is connected, but i can't connect to internet and when i press on connection information it show me the speed of 54 mb/s, what with wired connection should be 100. And it is ok that with wireless connection it is showing diferent ip?
[11:31] <goten> okay any links
[11:31] <KE1HA> goten, http://ant.apache.org/manual/index.html
[11:31] <zodihax> anyone knows where to get the newest x-fi beta drivers? ive searched all over the place.. all ive retrieved is that they seem to be "XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18" but i cant find them anywhere
[11:31] <goten> KE1HA, thanks
[11:31] <ndxtg> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html <--- could anyone please help me to check these tgz files? how come I cannot open it in Ubuntu 9.04
[11:32] <KE1HA> goten, The Binary is an RPM version, you probably need to build it yourself.
[11:32] <bornfree> erUSUL: yes, i did install the bootloader meant for the mbr into the usb, now figuring out how to remove it (if possible)
[11:32] <DjAngo23> Hello everyone. How can i check whether a cron is executed or not
[11:32] <gokdeniz> heyyyyyy
[11:33] <oCean_> ndxtg: what is the error?
[11:33] <bornfree> Jordan_U: yes, that was my mistake. should have checked under the advanced tab in the installation
[11:33] <ndxtg> oCean_: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[11:33] <ndxtg> tar: Child returned status 1
[11:33] <ndxtg> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:33] <ndxtg> (sorry failed copy & paste)
[11:33] <Jordan_U> bornfree: I meant when you run "sudo syslinux /dev/sdX" to restore syslinux, which is the bootloader that unetbootin installs.
[11:34] <navid> hi. anyonecan help me setting vpn connection?
[11:34] <oCean_> ndxtg: nvm, should not paste here. I tried 'tar xvfz dbpSrc-1-1-9.tgz'  - goes just fine
[11:34] <DjAngo23> Any one any idea bout the Crontab ?
[11:34] <bodom> Hi there. Is there any hope I can have my CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE sequence working?
[11:35] <KE1HA> DjAngo23, man cron
[11:35] <Soldier> setup vpn http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6038003.html
[11:35] <oCean_> DjAngo23: just make a test entry in your cron, one which outputs to a logfile, then you'll know
[11:35] <oCean_> KE1HA: that is not helpful
[11:35] <bornfree> Jordan_U: do i run the syslinux command on the usb? or some other syslinux?
[11:35] <Geier> bodom: you mean http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html ?
[11:35] <Jordan_U> ndxtg: What command did you use to try to unpack it?
[11:35] <ndxtg> oCean_: I still get that error "stdin error"
[11:36] <KE1HA> oCean_, I dont understand, that's the manual fer it.
[11:36] <sacarlson> erUSUL:  bornfree: I think he just needs to reinstall the boot installer on the usb flash.  we used to have a utility that was preinstalled on ubuntu 8.04 that created one.  I don't see it on my present version ubuntu 10.04.
[11:36] <oCean_> ndxtg: better re-download, there's no problem with the archive
[11:36] <Jordan_U> bornfree: On the usb drive, and again I reapeat that you should be sure you choose the correct device.
[11:36] <ndxtg> Jordan_U: http://codepad.org/ebzM5sg1 full log
[11:36] <janicko> Hello, i need a help no set a wireless router. It is being recognised, it even saing that is connected, but i can't connect to internet and when i press on connection information it show me the speed of 54 mb/s, what with wired connection should be 100. And it is ok that with wireless connection it is showing diferent ip?
[11:36] <oCean_> KE1HA: there are manuals for all commands. Don't refer people to read the manual page if they come here with specific questions regarding that command
[11:36] <DjAngo23> KE1HA, Yeah, you are right.
[11:36] <bodom> Geier: yep, I also mean that the "dontZap" option doesn't change anything for me. The sequence is always disabled anyway
[11:36] <DjAngo23> oCean_, didn' t htink about that, thanks.
[11:36] <ndxtg> oCean_: I tried all other versions as well, still have that thing. So I guess this is Ubuntu error?
[11:37] <bornfree> Jordan_U: alright, will try to do that. thanks.
[11:37] <oCean_> ndxtg: no, I don't believe that
[11:37] <Soldier> VPN https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[11:37] <Geier> bodom: and you did sudo dontzap --enable?
[11:37] <shekar> hi i am new to ubuntu can some tell me how to compile
[11:37] <oCean_> shekar: why would you compile? and what are you compiling
[11:37] <Geier> shekar: what do you want to compile?
[11:37] <Dave111> guys im trying to install something and getting this message "Your system does not seem to be set up to build kernel modu.."
[11:37] <bullgard> erUSUL: Your last advice: "-> Edit>Emblems and backgrounds" is too short for me to compfrehend. What file should I edit?
[11:37] <Soldier> Kernal Compile https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[11:37] <Dave111> how to i go about getting these modules?
[11:37] <Geier> Dave111: what are you installing?
[11:38] <KE1HA> oCean_, I didn't see a specific question about cron, only "does  any idea about cron"
[11:38] <Soldier> Compile dpkg http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/cross-compile.5.html
[11:38] <erUSUL> bullgard: is not a file. is a menu entry in a nautilus window. it opens a dialog where you can *add* emblems
[11:38] <navid> hi. anyone can help me setting vpn connection?
[11:38] <bodom> Geier: here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/3KR7x1P6
[11:38] <Dave111> im installing guest additions for the virtualbox
[11:39] <erUSUL> bullgard: open any nautilus window. Places>home for example. there go to Edit>emblems and backgrounds ( or some such)  a new window will open
[11:39] <Geier> bodom: at ubuntugeek it says "DontZap" "false"
[11:39] <oCean_> KE1HA: yes, but that one is referring to the actual question couple of lines earlier.
[11:39] <Geier> not "off"
[11:39] <shekar> i am installing the software called insight i have to compile to use the software
[11:40] <KE1HA> oCean_, I didn't see those, do appologize for the short answer.
[11:40] <Soldier> Insight http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1512700
[11:40] <bodom> Geier: it doesn't make difference (from xorg manual: the following boolean option values are recognised as FALSE: 0, off, false, no )
[11:40] <_ikke_> I can't get my microphone to work on my HP DV6 laptop on ubuntu 10.4. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:40] <Geier> alright bodom
[11:41] <shekar> Geier: software called insight3d
[11:41] <classical> Plz someone help me install minitube i download a deb package but have error Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3)
[11:41] <classical> then i download source but minitube file does not executing
[11:42] <sacarlson> dave111: you need the kernel header files for the kernel you are using
[11:42] <Soldier> audio microphone http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/adintool.1.html
[11:42] <shekar> oCean:software called insight3d please help
[11:42] <rileyp> Hi all im running lucid  quite nicely but when i try to view YouTube videos ifull screen it crashes any ideas ?
[11:43] <classical> i have even try from ppa but E: Couldn't find package minitube
[11:43] <fishbeing> hi,i have a problem with blender_2.53.anybody could help me?(sorry for my poor English : ) )
[11:43] <classical> i have added it in soruce.list and the updated it by apt-get update
[11:44] <shekar> hello please help me how to compile the software insight3d
[11:44] <fishbeing> it is no UI
[11:44] <Soldier> For insight3d it needs java
[11:44] <bodom> Geier: so, no way?
[11:44] <Geier> nothing i know
[11:45] <Geier> always worked for me :(
[11:46] <Geier> shekar: install build-essential and the things mentioned in the README.txt
[11:46] <christa> Is there anything known about a workaround for this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554172
[11:46] <christa> its a little bit annoying to have to cups start manually after booting..
[11:46] <shekar> ya but how to use that i should open terminal
[11:47] <christa> maybe re-naming the symbolic link in rc2.d from S50 cups to S99cups might help(?)
[11:47] <Geier> shekar: have you installed that stuff?
[11:47] <shekar> no
[11:48] <Soldier> This should help to compile insight3d http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2857278&group_id=270681&atid=1151177
[11:48] <shekar> i dont now how to install i am confused :)
[11:48] <Geier> shekar: open a terminal.
[11:49] <shekar> ya i did
[11:49] <Soldier> Oh, sorry then Geier is on his way to helping
[11:49] <sacarlson> shekar: I saw this but look like they had problems too http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2857278&group_id=270681&atid=1151177
[11:49] <Geier> Soldier: not really
[11:50] <shleda> hi, I have a command like this in a script -> echo 'print "hello" ' | at now <- what would it mean?
[11:50] <mschiff> anyone knows a repo that has x86_64 kernels for x86 lucid?
[11:50] <shekar> i downloaded from insight3d.com
[11:51] <Geier> shekar: oh, that's clear
[11:51] <Geier> but you need the dependencies
[11:51] <Soldier> it is a php start script
[11:51] <Geier> shekar: better ask in a forum. Installing by compilation is __really__ complicated sometimes
[11:51] <Soldier> echo then print commands
[11:52] <hollowcrap> hello
[11:52] <andyn> !hi | hollowcrap
[11:53] <shekar> thankyou very much:)
[11:53] <Soldier> let me try and compile insight3d before i give you bad info
[11:53] <KE1HA> Geier, He's also going to need OpenCV, this particular app is not a simple build.
[11:54] <jatt> which program should I install to connect my laptop to a video projector_
[11:54] <Geier> KE1HA: yeah, and opencv ist apparently not in the repositories, so good luck :(
[11:54] <KE1HA> Geier, No, it's not, it's a build app as well.
[11:55] <dany_> hi all, in english you say "a http request" or "an http request" ?
[11:55] <Soldier> shekar give me the website from where you are downloading insight3d
[11:55] <Soldier> please
[11:55] <shekar> http://insight3d.sourceforge.net/
[11:55] <Soldier> k let me look at this
[11:56] <shirtless> Why did ubuntu move the icons to the left side of the window for lucid?
[11:56] <shirtless> Is shuttleworth a lefty?
[11:56] <Soldier> ok so need help install a .gz file
[11:57] <MWelchUK_work_> Hi guys, can anyone think of a good way of determining the interface of each disk in a system? I.e. I have sd[a-c] one is a SATA drive, one is a PATA drive and one is a USB Falsh drive, I wan't to work out which is which from a script...
[11:57] <Soldier> or compiling then install
[11:57] <littlepenguin> gz is an archive like a zip
[11:57] <shekar> Soldier will u help me
[11:57] <Soldier> shekar as much as i can sure will do whatever possible
[11:57] <shirtless> Soldier: is it a .tar.gz or a .gz
[11:57] <shekar> ok ok thankyou :)
[11:58] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, are all the drives on the same system ?
[11:58] <ezrafree_> anyone know how i can get a Tenda 11N usb wifi adapter to work in ubuntu?
[11:59] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, yup.
[11:59] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, df -hT will give you a claen print, then awk / sed the lines
[11:59] <Somelauw> I can't figure out how to open a certain postscript file. I tried using open-office, but it doesn't work. I can upload the postscript file, if you want me to.
[12:00] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, sridf -hT
[12:00] <p3N7A> ok, back with the same problem, guest OS(win2k3) not playing sound on virtual box, the host OS is ubuntu...
[12:00] <shirtless> Somelauw: what is contained in the postscript file
[12:00] <p3N7A> I tried everything ossible
[12:00] <p3N7A> possible*
[12:00] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, df doesn't give me the interface type, just the filesystem type
[12:01] <Somelauw> shirtless I created it using mpost, if that helps.
[12:01] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, it give you the /dev's right,
[12:01] <Soldier> ok, shekar
[12:01] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, as in /dev/sdx or /dev/sdd1 etc etc
[12:01] <shirtless> Somelauw: Yeah, but what kind of data is it. Is it a book about your dog? What is it
[12:02] <shekar> Soldier are u downloading the software
[12:02] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, I've got the dev's - I need to know which interface each dev uses
[12:02] <littlepenguin> p3n7a have you installed the guest additions??
[12:02] <Soldier> this website of ubuntu will walk you through it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[12:02] <MWelchUK_work_> i.e., is the disk SATA or PATA or USB
[12:02] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, Ah, ok.. let me tink abt that one fer a min.
[12:02] <Somelauw> shirtless, it was an example for metauml: http://metauml.sourceforge.net/old/faq.html
[12:02] <Soldier> shakar check it out see if you can do it yourself you will need to know how in the future
[12:03] <sacarlson> MWelchUK_work_:  take a look at this package smartmontools
[12:03] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, Not sure it's trivial - there doesn't seem to be anything obvious in /sys/ but I could have missed something.
[12:03] <Soldier> first command sudo checkinstall
[12:03] <p3N7A> littlepenguin:yeah, all vbox related apps in the repo are installed..
[12:03] <Somelauw> shirtless, I followed the compilation step using mpost and it created a file called example.1 but I can't open it.
[12:03] <Rocky> MWelchUK_work_, sda are generally SATA devices (usb/sta harddrivers)
[12:04] <Rocky> do u want to know that info programatically ....
[12:04] <littlepenguin> noo p3n7a that is no meant..if your machine is started check upper menu for the option of "install guest additions"
[12:04] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, well, you know the /dev/sdx is SATA  .. /dev/hdx is IDE and /dev/sdd is USB, but Im not sure about PATA
[12:04] <N3VV3K> hey guys is there a better app than gedit
[12:04] <littlepenguin> n3vv3k for what purpose?
[12:04] <MWelchUK_work_> Rocky, or actually scsi or usb-storage
[12:04] <Rocky> KE1HA, how is /dev/sdd  USB ?
[12:04] <shirtless> Somelauw: you should be able to open it with gv/ghostscript.
[12:05] <shirtless> Somelauw: i googled and it seems like OO is not very good at postscript.
[12:05] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, I don't that;s the point.
[12:05] <KE1HA> Yeah, like plug ins a USB key and it shows as /sdd
[12:05] <Soldier> shekar i did download the software
[12:05] <N3VV3K> just basic stuff i was looking into leafpad
[12:05] <Rocky> KE1HA, it shows up as sdd as u already have sdb/sdc
[12:05] <littlepenguin> p3n7a menu -> vm->guest->install vm tools
[12:06] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, I need to look at that PATA one fer a minute.
[12:06] <Rocky> otherwise it might have showed yuo sdb or sdc
[12:06] <littlepenguin> n3vv3k whats wrong with gedit?
[12:06] <MWelchUK_work_> Rocky, Yes, I need to discover it programatically
[12:06] <p3N7A> littlepenguin:ok, let switch on the vm and do it, give you feedback in a minute
[12:06] <Rocky> MWelchUK_work, what are you targetting. A script to what
[12:06] <littlepenguin> ok p3N7A
[12:06] <MWelchUK_work_> Rocky, yup a script for testing machines.
[12:07] <N3VV3K> nothing really i kinda just want the best of the best of everything
[12:07] <shirtless> N3VV3K: if you want the best editor, it's not leafpad ;)
[12:07] <littlepenguin> n3vv3k that depends on yourself normally
[12:07] <Rocky> do you know if there a defined list of  Drivers that go inot these machines
[12:07] <Rocky> certian brand/make/model/PCI-IDs
[12:07] <N3VV3K> thanks shirtless and littlepenguin what are some of your favorite linux applications?
[12:07] <Soldier> Shekar when you download insight3d there is a file called readme.txt that walks you through how to compile
[12:08] <MWelchUK_work_> Rocky, no, different machines will have different drives and controllers
[12:08] <N3VV3K> im looking for some good desktop widgets
[12:08] <Soldier> put in a folder and right click extract here Shekar
[12:08] <N3VV3K> i didnt really like screenlets
[12:08] <shirtless> N3VV3K: for an editor on ubuntu: gedit for no learning curve, or use Vim or emacs for a powerful editor.
[12:08] <shirtless> Don't bother with underdeveloped reinventions of the wheel
[12:08] <shirtless> seriously
[12:08] <shirtless> use good stuff
[12:09] <N3VV3K> thanks shirtless
[12:09] <KE1HA> Rocky, that maybe becasue I compile the kernel for libat and it makes everything /dev/sd
[12:09] <littlepenguin> n3vv3k mobloquer awn wireshark..editor vim or gedit...virtualbox..and as game pingus :d
[12:10] <Soldier> shekar Makefile and source code is in the "insight3d" subdirectory. There's no configuration, just execute "make" in the "insight3d" subdirectory.
[12:10] <janicko1> Hello, i need a help no set a wireless router. It is being recognised, it even saing that is connected, but i can't connect to internet and when i press on connection information it show me the speed of 54 mb/s, what with wired connection should be 100. And it is ok that with wireless connection it is showing diferent ip?
[12:10] <Rocky> KE1HA, Awhich kernel are you using
[12:10] <N3VV3K> mobloquer works like a charm i use vmware and what do you use wireshark for @ littlepenguin
[12:11] <littlepenguin> n3vv3k network related issues or informations
[12:11] <KE1HA> Right now?
[12:11] <Rocky> generally MAJOR=8 are SATAs
[12:11] <shirtless> janicko1: what kind of wifi configuration do you have b/g/n, wep, wpa?
[12:11] <Rocky> MAJOR=3 are IDEs
[12:11] <littlepenguin> N3VV3K: its a sniffer
[12:11] <KE1HA> right now on this box its a 32-34
[12:12] <sacarlson> MWelchUK_work_:  this does what you want sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda   give vendor and model of hard drives
[12:12] <KE1HA> oops 32-24. not 34
[12:12] <littlepenguin> N3VV3K: also etherape is usefull
[12:12] <N3VV3K> sorry
[12:12] <andyn> ethe-rape
[12:12] <janicko1> shirtless: actually i need help with that, i have no idea what to set there and how to get that information
[12:12] <Matthes_> someone here who can help me with my sound problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550869
[12:12] <Somelauw> shirtless, I tried ghostscript, but it gave me an error.
[12:12] <shirtless> Somelauw: what was the error?
[12:13] <Somelauw> http://pastebin.com/asMzJedV
[12:13] <Matthes_> oops, wrong link
[12:13] <N3VV3K> is that for penetration lottle penguin
[12:13] <Matthes_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550797
[12:13] <littlepenguin> no N3VV3K etherape shows to what hosts your machine is connecting
[12:13] <KE1HA> sacarlson, but if ya throw SCSI in the mix, it falls over. MWelchUK_work_ is right, this isn't straight forward.
[12:13] <Rocky> KE1HA, u can base your login on MAJOR numbers I guess
[12:13] <N3VV3K> ic
[12:14] <Rocky>  MAJOR=8 are SATAs && MAJOR=3 are IDEs
[12:14] <MWelchUK_work_> Rocky, usb-storage devices seem to get enumerated as major 8 as well
[12:14] <sacarlson> KE1HA:  MWelchUK_work_  it may not do all of them but it's a start
[12:15] <Niglop> If i have a 2 harddrives and 2 monitors next to eachother, is there a way i can make the monitors share the same mouse?
[12:15] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, Gnomes Disk Utility can display the "Fabric" of a Host Adapter.
[12:15] <Niglop> 2 different os's
[12:15] <littlepenguin> N3VV3K: you could get app informations through freshmeat.net, linuxappfinder.com, fossfor.us
[12:15] <p3N7A> littlepenguin:no effect...sound still not playing..
[12:15] <ClearFist> jado:
[12:15] <[nrx]> Niglop, you want a KVM
[12:15] <ClearFist> meinst das klingt so zu schmalzig?
[12:15] <pushdown> how can i install KDE 4.5 in Ubuntu
[12:16] <littlepenguin> p3N7A: what settings have you chosen thorugh vbox menu?
[12:16] <Niglop> whats a KVM [nrx] ?
[12:16] <[nrx]> Niglop, http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3A+kvm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
[12:16] <N3VV3K> your awesome littlepenguin
[12:16] <shirtless> Somelauw: Can you PM me a link to the file?
[12:16] <littlepenguin> :d N3VV3K
[12:16] <Niglop> is it an object or what [nrx] ?
[12:17] <Rocky> MWelchUK_work, beacuse usb is emulated SCSI
[12:17] <[nrx]> It's a physical piece of hardware.
[12:17] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, Yeah, but I dont know how to export the data it pulls.
[12:17] <Niglop> where could I get such a thing [nrx]
[12:17] <shirtless> radioshack
[12:17] <KE1HA> at least froma command-line where you could port it to a script.
[12:17] <[nrx]> Google for it. Ebuyer, Radioshack, Maplin, e-bay, etc.
[12:17] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, :-) I know it's frustrating isn't it!
[12:18] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, It's gonna keep me awake fer sure :-)
[12:18] <p3N7A> littlepenguin: I use "Pulse Audio " and "PulseAudio"
[12:18] <Niglop> is this it [nrx]  http://cgi.ebay.com/4-Port-USB-KVM-Switch-Box-cables-USB-VGA-keyboard-mouse-/310235211303?pt=COMP_EN_Networking_Components#ht_4100wt_1139
[12:18] <littlepenguin> ok p3n7a is sound card found in guest system??
[12:18] <[nrx]> Yes
[12:18] <N3VV3K> i could never download from dc++ does it suck
[12:18] <N3VV3K> who uses it
[12:18] <shekar> Soldier i did not get
[12:19] <Soldier> Shekar ok first you have to sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall
[12:19] <zodihax> i got this wierd problem.. im about to install some drivers, so i unpack them with tar -xvzf and then try to execute configure with "./configure".. which says it cant be done - what's wrong? im certain it has something to do with permissions - i just cant sort it out
[12:19] <zodihax> it says: "sh: Can't open ./configure"
[12:19] <Soldier> hit yes when it tells you
[12:20] <Soldier> or type y
[12:20] <shekar> should i open terminals
[12:20] <Soldier> enter
[12:20] <Soldier> yes
[12:20] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, well, my best "guess" and that's all it is at this point, is your gonna have to do a series of (if, else) statements and check for null values.
[12:20] <littlepenguin> zodihax: is there a configure script in this folder?
[12:20] <Soldier> do you know where your download of insight3d is
[12:20] <Niglop> [nrx]» would having 2 monitors/harddrives running use a lot of power?
[12:20] <ab415> I have a folder containing 2 file types. I want to transfer all .nef files. What command would i use?
[12:20] <andyn> zodihax: are you sure you cd'd into the directory in which that script resides?
[12:20] <shirtless> zodihax: is configure in your current directory when you type that?
[12:20] <KE1HA> if it's a null value, then you not a Device iType is not connected.
[12:20] <[nrx]> Niglop, not really.
[12:20] <Yud_Zroc> is the netbook edition good for normal laptops also?
[12:20] <zodihax> yes, there is.. i can open it if I use sudo ./configure.. but then I cant install it (gives me errors)
[12:21] <KE1HA> Whop, then you Know it's not.
[12:21] <[nrx]> Niglop, forgive me for saying.. but you don't seem to be the most tecnically savvy... why do you need two pc's running?
[12:21] <shirtless> zodihax: cd .. sudo rm -rf ./thatdir && tar xvzf file.tar.gz again.
[12:21] <shirtless> zodihax: don't untar it as root
[12:21] <littlepenguin> zodihax what app you want to compile?
[12:21] <Niglop> [nrx]» I am big on tech, I am just not good with hardware ATM :p I will be using it to run windows/linux simultaneously
[12:22] <zodihax> its a driver for my xfi soundcard.. ill try to do what you said shirtless, thanks (i didnt untar as root tho)
[12:22] <shekar> Soldier should i open the terminals
[12:22] <shirtless> zodihax: well if you didn't, you might need to chmod 755 configure
[12:22] <N3VV3K> damn littlepenguin your the shit they have so many apps that arent in the software center
[12:22] <[nrx]> Niglop, why don't you just run virtual machines then? I piece of hardware, 2 monitors and VM's
[12:22] <nio> hello all
[12:22] <shirtless> zodihax: also check if you're using bash, that might be a problem, but I'm not sure.
[12:22] <shirtless> ls -l /bin/sh
[12:22] <Soldier> Yes open terminal one
[12:22] <Niglop> [nrx]» I will be using linux as my full time operating system, and windows for other things such as sony vegas/music editing
[12:23] <nio> i need to unsquashfs kernel which is lzma compressed
[12:23] <[nrx]> Niglop, fair enough.
[12:23] <nio> could not  find any solution any help guys
[12:23] <Niglop> [nrx]» I dont think virtual machines will handle sony vegas very well :p
[12:23] <Mjuksel> hi guys
[12:23] <littlepenguin> yep N3VV3K ..there is a lot of stuff which is helpfull..
[12:23] <[nrx]> Niglop, if your pc's well specced enough, no reason why not ;)
[12:23] <Mjuksel> i have an error when checking for updates
[12:24] <Niglop> :P
[12:24] <Mjuksel> 2 ppas are not found, can i delete these in ubuntu tweak ?
[12:24] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, Just a though, grep dmesg for the known drives you have and see how you can pull the controller info out for the respective drives.
[12:24] <jatt> which software do I need to connect my laptop to a video projector?
[12:24] <[nrx]> jatt, nothing. Just a cable.
[12:24] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, Yeah - think I might have to resort to that. Cheers.
[12:24] <littlepenguin> jatt nothing because it will be treated as a monitor
[12:25] <Yud_Zroc> Will Ubuntu Netbook edition still work on normal laptops with normal functionality or faster?
[12:25] <zodihax> shirtless, after doing chmod 755 i was able to execute configure, but it gives me the following error: "configure: error: cannot find sources (src/ctalsa/ctalsa_main.c) in . or .."
[12:25] <pradeep> hello everyone
[12:25] <jatt> littlepenguin: thanks, I tried yesterday in a company meeting
[12:25] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, problem is, New Kernels are treating IDE as SATA, and it's gettign real confusing as to what is real and what's transformed. Same with PATA
[12:25] <vita`> Hi all, I am wanting to pick someones brains for a simple (hopefully) issue I am having installing ubuntu server-10.04-i386
[12:25] <jatt> I connected my laptop (runs ubuntu) with the projector but it wasn't automatically recognized
[12:25] <[nrx]> vita`, just ask, don't ask to ask :)
[12:26] <alec_> im trying to transfer all of one file type from a folder containing different file types. what command do i use?
[12:26] <jatt> my laptop has buttons to switch to the projector, it works on windows 7
[12:26] <vita`> hehe, sorry :) didnt want to directly inturrupt the current convo
[12:26] <jatt> I pressed those buttons but it didn't work under ubuntu
[12:26] <jatt> that's why I am asking if a special software needs to be installed.
[12:26] <littlepenguin> jatt then try to set 2nd monitor through grafics properties..also there could be a fn+a key on your laptop to activate the other vgaoutput
[12:26] <littlepenguin> but depends on laptop modell
[12:27] <Somelauw> shirtless, here it comes
[12:27] <vita`> My installation is stopping on starting up the partitioner.... scanning disks   at 43%
[12:27] <shirtless> Somelauw: you mean by DCC?
[12:27] <vita`> I have left it for apx 5 hours, but its not going further
[12:27] <shirtless> Somelauw: It won't work, because I'm behind a firewall.
[12:27] <alec_> jatt: dont know about your laptop specifically, but try going into system>preferences>monitor
[12:27] <jatt> littlepenguin: yes I tried the fn+f4 which  has this icon for external monitor
[12:27] <Fudge> how can i  apt-get remove gnome? not sure how to look for installed packages
[12:27] <littlepenguin> ok jatt and in ubuntu desktop properties for your grafics crad ??
[12:27] <jatt> oh I see
[12:28] <janicko1> need help to find my wep key
[12:28] <jatt> there is a button detect monitors
[12:28] <sacarlson> KE1HA: smartctl supports ATA-3 and later ATA, IDE and  SCSI-3 hard  drives.
[12:28] <nio> i am using ubuntu 8.04 lts hardy do i have to patch squashfs with lzma to decompile the squashfs image
[12:28] <Somelauw> shirtless, wait I'll upload
[12:28] <jatt> currently the laptop is not connected to a projector but I guess I do need to click on "Detect monitors" so I can use it
[12:28] <KE1HA> sacarlson, understand, but he needs to identidy the controller associated with a particular drive.
[12:29] <KE1HA> That could be as many as 4x diffrent "real" controllers in a single box.
[12:29] <littlepenguin> jatt beamer needs to be connected and powerd on
[12:29] <KE1HA> That being, SCSI, IDE, PATA, or even PCI now with SDD's
[12:30] <jatt> littlepenguin: sure, thanks for your suggestions, I will try it in my next company meeting!
[12:30] <Somelauw> shirtless, my upload-site doesn't work, but since it is readable as text, I pastebin'd it: http://www.pastebin.org/478700
[12:30] <shirtless> Somelauw: that's best anyway
[12:32] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, sacarlson you know, probably the best guys to ask this question to  is the Kernel Dev guys, they know this stuff inside out.
[12:33] <vita`> has anyone come accross the "starting up the partitioner..." issue with server-10.04
[12:33] <vita`> I have tried two seperate machines / hardware and am frazzled
[12:33] <alec_> can anybody help, im trying to transfer all .nef files to a separate folder, im not sure how i enter the command so that it transfers all of that file type.
[12:33] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, sacarlson, I'll have a bit more of a poke first you've given me a few more hints cheers.
[12:34] <Ghostly> for some reason the grub menu doesn't show up afeter i have installed ubuntu, only the grub command line does
[12:34] <littlepenguin> alec cp /sourcefolder/*.nef    /targetfolder
[12:34] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, If you get the answer, let us know :-)
[12:34] <alec_> thanks little penguin.
[12:34] <MWelchUK_work_> KE1HA, Will do (and right up a page on my website!)
[12:34] <shekar> Soldier please help should i open terminals
[12:35] <pradeep> in my office i use the LAN here and it is on dhcp too, but still i cant surf the internet but other windows computers can surf the internet on my network dont really know what is wrong here. i can ping the router but cant ping external addresses like eg. www.google.com, www.yahoo.com what can i do please...
[12:35] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, Good Idea L-)
[12:36] <Wolphie> pradeep, check with your network admin whether or not you use a proxy.
[12:36] <pradeep> funny enuf i am the net admin
[12:36] <pradeep> lol
[12:37] <littlepenguin> pradeep maybe some dns issue?
[12:37] <cre> hello
[12:37] <DasEi> pradeep: check your firewall settings, f.e. by firestarter
[12:37] <pradeep> but windows computer are working well
[12:37] <sacarlson> pradeep: it could be your office doesn't want you to surf the internet and are filtering all but some IP address access to it.
[12:37] <Wolphie> pradeep: and you're positive you don't use a proxy on the Windows machines? DNS issues would be unlikely if you're able to ping google etc.. reliably.
[12:38] <pradeep> yes
[12:38] <pradeep> i dont use a proxy
[12:38] <Wolphie> pradeep: do you use iptables or any kind of firewall on linux?
[12:38] <cre> I have a core i5 750 with 8GB RAM...I want ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso?
[12:38] <jpds> cre: Yes.
[12:38] <DasEi> cre: yupp
[12:38] <pradeep> vsat - modem- cisco 1800 router- switch- computers
[12:38] <cre> DasEi / jpds: thank you!
[12:38] <pradeep> nope
[12:39] <pradeep> that is d layout
[12:39] <pradeep> but when i did this $route add default gw 192.168.0.250
[12:40] <pradeep> it worked but when ever i restart i would have to run the command again
[12:40] <DasEi> !firestarter | pradeep
[12:41] <goten> I want to learn ubuntu gnome development suggest me how to start
[12:41] <Wolphie> pradeep: you need to open up the network settings for ubuntu and add the route there.
[12:41] <Wolphie> pradeep: although I don't really understand why you should if DHCP is set-up correctly
[12:41] <littlepenguin> goten reading a developement book :D
[12:41] <pradeep> Wolphie, how do i go about it
[12:41] <sacarlson> pradeep: oh so what is the default gateway address before you add that one manualy?
[12:42] <goten> littlepenguin, Can u be more specify
[12:42] <sed`> is there a GUI way to set the HTTP proxy to be used by apt?
[12:42] <zino> What's the recommended method for testing gdm themes in Lucid? gtmthemetester seems to have disappeared from the distribution.
[12:42] <littlepenguin> ok goten 1 mom pls i will look for sthg
[12:42] <Wolphie> pradeep: it should be under System > Network
[12:42] <pradeep> sacarlson, 192.168.0.250
[12:43] <goten> littlepenguin, Okay sure
[12:43] <sacarlson> pradeep: so if it was already there why would you have to add it?
[12:43] <philinux> sed`: system>prefs>network proxy
[12:43] <DasEi> zino: for all kinds of experimental stuff I use vm's
[12:43] <littlepenguin> goten http://developer.gnome.org/doc/GGAD/ggad.html
[12:43] <DasEi> !virtualbox | zino
[12:43] <sed`> philinux: i only want a proxy for Apt though, not other applications
[12:43] <elky> littlepenguin, can you please type the full words, I'm having trouble understanding you.
[12:43] <philinux> sed`: as far as I know thats it.
[12:43] <Ghostly> for some reason the grub menu doesn't show up afeter i have installed ubuntu, only the grub command line does
[12:44] <sacarlson> pradeep: I'm not sure why you dhcp isn't working but sounds like a solution would be to setup a static address and route by changeing /etc/network/interfaces
[12:44] <goten> littlepenguin, Okay thanks
[12:44] <littlepenguin> elky???
[12:44] <littlepenguin> what you mean elky?
[12:44] <Wolphie> pradeep: I'd try sacarlson's suggestion.
[12:44] <pradeep> sacarlson, i think it has to do with my laptop
[12:44] <zino> That would work of course. Thanks. But I think figuring out Xnest will be faster then.
[12:44] <pradeep> cos every other system works fine on the network
[12:44] <sed`> littlepenguin: probably "pls", "sthg" and "mom"
[12:45] <littlepenguin> ah ok sed...i understand..
[12:45] <littlepenguin> ok = okay
[12:45] <littlepenguin> :D
[12:45] <vita`> Hmm, could the issue I am having with the instalation of 10.04 partitioner/checking disks halting at 43% be because I am using a 32bit system (I am using the 32bit version)
[12:45] <pradeep> i have about 80 systems on the work
[12:45] <pradeep> network* and all are working just fine
[12:46] <elky> littlepenguin, yes as sed said. thanks :)
[12:46] <shirtless> Somelauw: I think I found a solution for this
[12:46] <shirtless> Somelauw: install texlive-fonts-recommended
[12:46] <shirtless> i'm trying that
[12:46] <shirtless> By the way, what is this metapost thing?
[12:46] <sacarlson> time for a beer. catch you all later.
[12:46] <shirtless> I might be interested
[12:46] <phoenix_> can anyone help problems related to kde. there is no one the kubuntu and kde channels
[12:48] <shirtless> phoenix_: i can probably show you how to fix your own problem, if you give me enough information.
[12:48] <phoenix_> shirtless: i am having problems with the font anti aliasing
[12:48] <pradeep> Wolphie, sacarlson http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tTtQuZj0
[12:49] <shirtless> phoenix_: In what part of the UI? Qt widgets?
[12:49] <phoenix_> shirtless: i enabled the anti aliasing and every app looks good excepy browsers
[12:49] <shirtless> Oh!
[12:49] <shirtless> phoenix_: and your browser is mozilla firefox, right?
[12:49] <pradeep> but when i run the command i get this
[12:49] <jayeola> how does one restart X on ubuntu? /etc/init.d/gdm restart tells me some cr** about upstart
[12:50] <phoenix_> shirtless: chrome.does chrome overide the kde settings
[12:50] <shirtless> phoenix_: is chrome written in Qt?
[12:50] <shirtless> phoenix_: if its not, your KDE anti-alias settings don't apply to it.
[12:50] <phoenix_> shirtless: no gtk
[12:50] <littlepenguin> jayeola log out
[12:50] <shirtless> phoenix_: that's why
[12:50] <shirtless> phoenix_: you need to set font and anti-aliasing settings in your gtkrc.
[12:50] <littlepenguin> jayeola: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:51] <phoenix_> shirtless: i will check if there is a setting for the gtk apps
[12:51] <littlepenguin> jayeola: log out would do a restart or the command..
[12:51] <shirtless> phoenix_: there might be, but if not ~/.gtkrc* will be the file to edit.
[12:51] <pradeep> Wolphie, sacarlson http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/bXZq3GFc
[12:52] <pradeep> did you see the difference
[12:52] <jayeola> http://pastebin.ca/1916350
[12:52] <jayeola> grrr
[12:52] <phoenix_> shirtless: i will examine that file now
[12:52] <andrew_gowa> hey...
[12:53] <littlepenguin> jayeola: sudo service gdm restart
[12:53] <KE1HA> jayeola, just curious are you really using "root" as the user?
[12:54] <andrew_gowa> http://tinyurl.com/239a2ck
[12:54] <havarnov> hi, just install 9.10 and installed correct drivers to my graphic card(gma500 :( ) and everything works! But can I know update without doing anything or do I need to run some config again?
[12:54] <MWelchUK_work_> havarnov, that would depend on how you installed the drivers.
[12:55] <jayeola> not using root, i just wanna fix this error.... .xsession-errors file
[12:55] <jayeola> http://pastebin.ca/1916351
[12:56] <philinux> havarnov: update manager will pop up with anything new. Sit back and enjoy
[12:57] <littlepenguin> jayeola: start in recovery mode and rename in home folder .config to .config_old..after a restart it should get rebuild
[12:57] <havarnov> MWelchUK_work_: i followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/
[12:58] <philinux> havarnov: Or just run update manager manually anytime you want
[12:58] <webwanderer> hi folks, i need to make nautilus mount one of my partition with write permission for normal user. How may I do this?
[12:59] <havarnov> philinux: are you sure? I'm not sure but I think I remember from last time i installed ubuntu that there where some trouble when i took a full update....
[12:59] <rileyp>  youtube crashes when I select full screen
[12:59] <KE1HA> havarnov, if you installed 9.10, there's lots of updates, probably would hurt, either through Update manager or terminal, so update and dist-upgradeupdate dist.
[12:59] <rileyp> running lucid and intel vga
[12:59] <jayeola>  littlepenguin , this is a new install. a new user would have no clue what to do. neither do i ;-)
[12:59] <MWelchUK_work_> havarnov, since they are packaged by Ubuntu rather than installed from source or a random script, they will probably be OK.
[12:59] <eldar> anyone got the mic on their creative x-fi card working? sound works perfectly, mic doesnt..
[12:59] <philinux> havarnov: I update when update manager pops up no problem. nVidia 8600GT
[12:59] <KE1HA> sri .. sudo apt-get update .. then .. sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:00] <rileyp> and on another lucid and nvidia 5600
[13:00] <KE1HA> or dist-upgrade which ever you prefer.
[13:00] <jayeola> littlepenguin: also i ran mv .config config.bak and this still happens
[13:00] <havarnov> philinux: yeah, but my graphic card is a pain in the ass. I special case....
[13:00] <Somelauw> shirtless, I tried install texlive-fonts-recommended, but it told me I already have the latest version.
[13:01] <littlepenguin> ok jayeola when its a fresh install its right..that would not change sthg..stop gmd and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:01] <philinux> havarnov: In that case use synaptic to pin the version so it wont upgrade
[13:01] <afeijo> hi guys, how can I update phpmyadmin that ubuntu install? it is quite old
[13:01] <littlepenguin> jayeola: sthg=something
[13:01] <afeijo> apt-get should do it, but didnt
[13:01] <Ginbun2> is there a way to automount all my hd drives when I log into gnome?
[13:01] <KE1HA> havarnov, understand, probaby best to use the update manager then, and select what you want updated.
[13:03] <KE1HA> afeijo, try going through the Package Manager itself v.s. terminal if you can.
[13:03] <afeijo> KE1HA: I'm using terminal
[13:03] <afeijo> but I believe the package has not been updated :( they do it very rarely
[13:04] <MWelchUK_work_> afeijo, Which version of Ubuntu are you using
[13:04] <KE1HA> afeijo, what version you using ?
[13:04] <h0f1ul> i need help...
[13:04] <afeijo> 2.6.28-19-generic
[13:04] <KE1HA> afeijo, better yet, sudo apt-cache policy phpmyadmin
[13:05] <MWelchUK_work_> afeijo, run "lsb_release -d"
[13:05] <afeijo>  4:3.1.2-1 0
[13:05] <afeijo>         500 http://br.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe Packages
[13:05] <afeijo> 9.04
[13:05] <afeijo> oops
[13:05] <FloodBot2> afeijo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <afeijo> sorry about the flood
[13:06] <afeijo> I need to upgrade my ubuntu then...
[13:06] <KE1HA> afeijo, latest is 4.3.3.21 so your not too far off.
[13:06] <Ghostly> for some reason the grub menu doesn't show up after i have installed ubuntu, only the grub command line does shows up
[13:06] <afeijo> KE1HA: yeah I'm running 9.04, I will execute the update
[13:06] <KE1HA> MWelchUK_work_, is for the UB version.
[13:06] <afeijo> do I need to update to 9.10, then 10.04 ?
[13:07] <eldar> anyone got the mic on their creative x-fi card working? sound works perfectly, mic doesnt..
[13:07] <iceroot> afeijo: yes
[13:07] <philinux> Ghostly: Is the the grub_rescue prompt ?
[13:07] <afeijo> iceroot: thanks
[13:07] <alazyworkaholic> I have 2 disks & want to dual boot ubuntu & windows using raid 1 for both operating systems. Is it possible to make ubuntu mdadm &/or dmraid work nicely with a raid 1 windows setup?
[13:07] <afeijo> iceroot: with this? sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[13:07] <DasEi> afeijo: might be less stressy to do a fresh install after a backup
[13:07] <iceroot> !upgrade | afeijo
[13:08] <bihari> i have a problem i have installed ubuntu lucid on my system  problem is when i run this ubuntu for 30 mins automatically system get frezz it stuck off and screen become unlcear pictures become irritating i dont know why
[13:08] <iceroot> alazyworkaholic: hardware-raid windows is using?
[13:08] <KE1HA> afeijo, depends, if 4.3.3.2.1 is in the repor's for 9.04, then probably not as the deps should be met also, if not then you may have to if you want it real bad.
[13:08] <Ghostly> philinux:no only grub command line that you usally can get by pressing some key
[13:08] <iceroot> alazyworkaholic: or fake/software-raid?
[13:08] <KE1HA> afeijo, is there a specific reason you need the next version up ?
[13:09] <philinux> Ghostly: Is only ubuntu installed on the machine?
[13:09] <bihari> i have a problem i have installed ubuntu lucid on my system  problem is when i run this ubuntu for 30 mins automatically system get frezz it stuck off and screen become unlcear pictures become irritating  and then when i restart  my processor will sto working i dont know why
[13:09] <afeijo> KE1HA: I like to be always up to date, with everything I use
[13:09] <MWelchUK_work_> afeijo, That's the latest version packaged for 9.04. To get a newer version either upgrade to 10.04 (to get 4:3.3.2-1) or uninstall it from the package manager and manually install the latest version from source. It will clearly not be controlled via the package manager after that and if an update breaks it, you get to keep the pieces...
[13:09] <philinux> Ghostly: which version of ubuntu
[13:09] <alazyworkaholic> iceroot: THanks for answering. I'm talking about the fakeraid that came with the motherboard that I can use with windows.
[13:09] <KE1HA> afeijo, understand, same here, but you may have to add allot of things you dont need to get it, but if it's a bug or feature need, that's diffrent.
[13:09] <Ghostly> phillinux: no i have a second harddrive with windows xp and i use ubuntu 10.04
[13:10] <iceroot> alazyworkaholic: you can also use the fakeraid with linux
[13:10] <afeijo> KE1HA: that ubuntu was 8.04, I upgraded it up to 9.04 some time ago... its time to do it again :)
[13:10] <iceroot> !fakeraid | alazyworkaholic
[13:10] <afeijo> downloading 1272M lol
[13:10] <justSimplyBob> good morning everyone
[13:11] <Ghostly> philinux: no i have a second harddrive with windows xp and i use ubuntu 10.04
[13:11] <alazyworkaholic> iceroot: Ubuntu's my main OS, but I have to keep windows around. With one disk I've been able to read/write to win using ntfs-3g. I want to put another disk in the computer & I'm wondering if I'll be able to have both OSes running raid 1, & keep the ability to read/write to ntfs from ubuntu.
[13:11] <KE1HA> afeijo, roger that, if it were me, I'd do a clean install after backup, 1x upgrade is ok, but your looking at going up two and that cna cause issues in the long run.
[13:11] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: you can first install win on that fake, let's say half of disk space of 1 drive, then afterwards ubuntu.. where you can decide if you want to use fakeraid (little tricky installation) or use softraid (more reliable, really jus slightly slower on recent cpu's)
[13:11] <KE1HA> but, tix up to you of course.
[13:12] <afeijo> I'll try the upgrade, if anything weird come up I do a clean install
[13:12] <classical> why html5 does not work on chrome ?  its in flash
[13:12] <classical> i have latest chrome
[13:12] <KE1HA> afeijo, well we're hre if ya need anything.
[13:12] <afeijo> thanks!
[13:12] <havarnov> if i make a new user, how do i give him the same sudo rights as the user made under installation have?
[13:12] <classical> 5.0.375.126
[13:12] <DasEi> havarnov: man visudo
[13:13] <DasEi> havarnov: use this command to edit the sudoers file
[13:13] <alazyworkaholic> DasEi: do you mean first install win onto fakeraid using half of BOTH disks? Then install Ubuntu using either mdadm or dmraid?
[13:13] <philinux> Ghostly: I would reinstall grub from a live cd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:13] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: yes
[13:13] <Oct> Ohai
[13:14] <Ghostly> philinux: i have tried that several times to no awail
[13:14] <Oct> Does anyone know if upstart is compatible with logrotate ?
[13:14] <Gangrel> hello all
[13:14] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: say you got 2 times 100 gb,  so win on 50 and ubu on 50 (or whatever relation you want)
[13:14] <bihari> can any one tell me how to test a system hardwqare
[13:14] <bihari> hardware
[13:14] <alazyworkaholic> DasEi: mdadm is slower than dmraid? Do you know if I'd be able to read/write to the windows half?
[13:15] <Gangrel> anyone can help me on setting up an ad-hoc wireless network because the guides i have found are not working
[13:15] <philinux> Ghostly: Does XP boot? Run this script from the livecd. http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[13:15] <eldar> anyone got the mic on their creative x-fi card working? sound works perfectly, mic doesnt..
[13:15] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: will be, by dmraid, but as said dmraid with the last lucidinstaller was tricky, idk if it is fixed meanwhile
[13:15]  * antivirtel is away: work
[13:16] <Ghostly> philinux: yes i have no problems booting xp if i change the boot the drive windows is on
[13:16] <janicko> I need help to set my wireless router
[13:16] <guillaume> what do you want exactly janicko
[13:16] <iceroot> alazyworkaholic: i dont see a problem
[13:16] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: there is a trick : use the alternate karmic installer, set up the raid, after that is done, proceed with lucid cd (dmraid)
[13:16] <guillaume> which kind of router you have
[13:16] <philinux> Ghostly: The script will reveal all.
[13:17] <alazyworkaholic> DasEi: if there's a dmraid problem with 10.04 it ought to be fixed by 10.10?
[13:17] <Somelauw> Since shirtless disappeared, I will ask my question again.
[13:17] <Somelauw> I have a postscript file, but I can't open it. Here is it's source: http://pastebin.com/asMzJedV Here is the error message: http://www.pastebin.org/478700
[13:17] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: you can look at the changelog, maybe it's done
[13:18] <Ghostly> philinux: ok will try that
[13:18] <janicko> guillaume: ubuntu recognize my wireless router, it even say it is connected, but i cant browse on internet and in connection information it say it have spee 53mb/s but in wired connection i have 100. So i need to help to set it properly
[13:18] <nio> i am using ubuntu 8.04 lts hardy do i have to patch squashfs with lzma to decompile the squashfs image
[13:18] <dinosaurvskitten> gnucash seems more geared toward day to day use. Are there any decent budget applications that are more for long term planning, "what if I save x%" scenarios?
[13:18] <philinux> Ghostly: Use this to post back the results.txt http://filebin.ca/
[13:18] <guillaume> I have a problem for something, I have a laptop (ACER) with a camera and a mircophone inscrusted. The camera is working correctly, however the microphone is not working, there is nothing, why?
[13:19] <DasEi> janicko: does ifconfig provide this info on the wired internet ?
[13:19] <Ghostly> !paste
[13:19] <janicko> DasEi: let me check
[13:20] <alazyworkaholic> DasEi: / iceroot: how about reliability? I've gone through a lot of forum posts but didn't get a good answer. What are the chances of data getting corrupted because of a crash, failure to resume from suspend, bad program, or any of the other things that would make me push the reset button?
[13:20] <guillaume> someone has an ideo for the microphone of my laptop, it's not working
[13:20] <guillaume> maybe its a problem of drivers
[13:20] <guillaume> cos my camera is okey
[13:21] <MohShami> hey guys, I have a 3 year old AMD64 3600+, which can't play 1080p movies except in windows, I read that the new cards from nvidia have support for decoding those movies, will that work on ubuntu, if so, can someone recommend a "cheap" card for me?
[13:21] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: on a raid have a much fairer chance concerning hardwarefailures, but corruption of fs due to wrong handling makes no difference
[13:21] <janicko> DasEi: it wrote down stuff but i do not understand that
[13:22] <guillaume> Someone could help me?
[13:22] <DasEi> janicko: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:22] <littlepenguin> what is the irc command to diable login/out messages in here?
[13:22] <DasEi> janicko: ifconfig | pastebinit             ,give url here
[13:22] <DasEi> guillaume: haven't read your question, again ?
[13:23] <KE1HA> alazyworkaholic, If high reliability and date integrity are the primary concerns, HW-Raid is the industry standard, if that's an option.
[13:23] <philinux> littlepenguin: which chat client?
[13:23] <slow-motion> hi
[13:23] <KE1HA> Date Integrity*
[13:24] <DasEi> KE1HA: ;-)raid5
[13:24] <abhijit> hiyaa!!!
[13:24] <abhijit> :)
[13:24] <KE1HA> DasEi, At least RAID-5 if not 10
[13:24] <DasEi> as we all do, hehe
[13:24] <guillaume> DasEu: I've a laptop, and on my laptop i've a camera and a microphone incrusted. My camera is working correctly, however, my microphone is not! Nevertheless, when I plug an headphone, with a microphone, I can speak and I heard my voice when I do a test call on Skype or MSN
[13:24] <janicko> DasEi:http://pastebin.com/wSbYZi1A
[13:25] <twoten> the 10.04 installer put grub on the wrong drive, how can I write the grub bootloader onto the correct mbr?
[13:25] <abhijit> !fixgrub | twobitsp1ite
[13:25] <guillaume> DaSEi: It's just my incrusted microphone who is not working :s
[13:25] <abhijit> !fixgrub | twoten
[13:25] <alazyworkaholic> DasEi: I'm going to go for raid 1 because I want faster reads & some protection against a hard disk mechanical failure, but I have had to reset far too often thanks to some bad programs & would like to know if raid would actually Increase!? my chances of data corruption cuz the disks might not match due to crashes, cpu overheating, etc... i.e. all bad things besides hard drive mechanical failure.
[13:25] <littlepenguin> philinux: freenode webchat ...
[13:25] <twoten> sweeet!
[13:26] <littlepenguin> philinux: its a website which lets me in here...isnt there a command for irc instead of a setting in the client?
[13:26] <Ghostly> philinux: http://filebin.ca/fkqqay/RESULTS.txt
[13:26] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: the fact is that it writes to both disks, but apart from complicating things that itself won't touch corruption
[13:26] <guillaume> too much thing to read for u lol
[13:26] <iromli> is libavahi-discover removed in lucid?
[13:26] <alazyworkaholic> KE1HA: thanks. Unfortunately hw-raid's not an option. Between dmraid & mdadm, what's best for data integrity?
[13:27] <iceroot> littlepenguin: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS
[13:27] <littlepenguin> thx iceroot
[13:27] <iceroot> littlepenguin: but that is client-side, this example was for irssi
[13:27] <KE1HA> alazyworkaholic, Good quesiton, unfortunately, no easy to answer, as either one could be better in a given enviroment.
[13:27] <Niglop> what is the difference between the default xchat-gnome that comes with ubuntu and normal xchat?
[13:27] <Roey> http://pastebin.org/444819  <--- hey why do I get this when I try to apt-get dist-uprade, and how can I fix it?
[13:27] <DasEi> janicko: looks good, apart from a far too less throughput
[13:27] <littlepenguin> yes iceroot found that site also with the explaining..ignore is unknown command on server+
[13:28] <DasEi> janicko: sudo apt-get install ethtool
[13:28] <iceroot> littlepenguin: use a real client, e.g. xchat
[13:28] <DasEi> janicko: sudo ethtool eth0 | pastebinit
[13:28] <littlepenguin> iceroot yes if i could i would do..im at work atm
[13:28] <iceroot> littlepenguin: ah ok, then i think you have to live with the "spam" here :(
[13:29] <pietro_> hi, following site guide for creating bootable USB stick I went to point 6. That's it! When the process completes, you'll be ready to restart your computer and begin installing Ubuntu. - But after announced 4 minutes process I see progress window with Creatopn of persistent file, 100% done. And nothing all. I see this window for 2 hours now. Something went wrong. What can I do now? tnx
[13:29] <guillaume> Noone could help me? :s My laptop mircophone is not working
[13:29] <DasEi> Niglop: eye kandy, better integration in the desktop, smoother apperance
[13:29] <abhijit> !sound | guillaume
[13:29] <littlepenguin> ok iceroot..
[13:29] <Niglop> DasEi» which
[13:29] <pietro_> *Creation
[13:29] <janicko> DasEi:http://pastebin.com/ZNj3bc2p
[13:29] <guillaume> thanks you guys
[13:29] <guillaume> will try
[13:30] <DasEi> Niglop: gnome-xchat
[13:30] <philinux> Ghostly: As you can see you got legacy grub in the mbr of /dev/sdb and grub2 files on sdb1. So legacy grub needs to be replaced with grub2
[13:30] <guillaume> It's an output device hun??
[13:30] <io> Niglop: xchat-gnome is only a frontend.
[13:30] <KE1HA> alazyworkaholic, bottom line is, Fakraid is not much more than BIOS trickery for system with a functional RAID system. You'd be better off with a robust backup system than a SW / FakeRaid.
[13:30] <DasEi> janicko: that side looks good, too, set to 100mb
[13:30] <guillaume> it's just my microphone, the rest is completely good
[13:30] <guillaume> :)
[13:30] <Niglop> o
[13:31] <DasEi> janicko: so you connect wired to your router by dhcp ?
[13:31] <Ghostly> philinux: odd i guess a sudo grub-install will do?
[13:31] <abhijit> guillaume, which version of ubuntu?
[13:31] <guillaume> the last one
[13:31] <guillaume> 10.04
[13:31] <abhijit> guillaume, and what is the problem?
[13:31] <guillaume> The microphone of my laptop is not working
[13:31] <guillaume> just that
[13:31] <janicko> DasEi: what is dhcp?
[13:32] <philinux> Ghostly: So from the livecd so need to install grub2 to the mbr of /dev/sdb NOT sdb1 partition
[13:32] <guillaume> my camera is ok
[13:32] <littlepenguin> x-chat gnome is total crap..some most important settings like proxy is missing
[13:32] <DasEi> !dhcp | janicko
[13:32] <guillaume> it's incrusted devices
[13:32] <abhijit> guillaume, it is not working for all aps or only not working for any specific aps?
[13:32] <philinux> Ghostly: the script is good yes?
[13:32] <Ghostly> philinux: yea easy and small
[13:33] <guillaume> it's not working for msn or skype, however, when i use an headphone with a microphone its ok
[13:33] <DasEi> janicko: pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[13:33] <guillaume> just annoying to use my headphone all the time
[13:33] <guillaume> when i have a video conference
[13:33] <abhijit> guillaume, first in this article see microphone section: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[13:33] <philinux> Ghostly: so the problem is that legacy grub in the mbr look for its files on sdb1 but they are not there. Grub2 files are there.
[13:34] <alazyworkaholic> KE1HA: can you tell me a bit more about the environment differences you mentioned? I have a dual booting desktop. They'll be a 640 GB WD-black pair on a Gigabyte 780g motherboard. I hope I'll be able to read/write to the ntfs raid 1 as I can with just one disk. I've heard that fakeraid is bios trickery. I'm just trying to really figure out the implications of that.
[13:34] <guillaume> I have always checled :/
[13:34] <janicko> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/RymdaRk7
[13:34] <abhijit> guillaume, before that just have a look here: http://titotheman.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/microphone-problem-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/
[13:35] <DasEi> janicko: sudo dhclient                     <<does this assign a IP  ?
[13:35] <guillaume> abhijit, My laptop is an ACER
[13:35] <Ghostly> philinux: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/[media] /dev/sdb will work just fine i guess
[13:35] <guillaume> do you think its ok?
[13:35] <_DGM_> guillaume: brand has nothing to do with if it should run or not. We'd need specs instead
[13:35] <_DGM_> guillaume: type of cpu, amount of ram, videocard etc
[13:35] <abhijit> guillaume, yah. but just try those intsructions. i cant gurantee. but they should work. read them carefully
[13:36] <philinux> Ghostly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[13:36] <KE1HA> alazyworkaholic, There are many solutions, but an easy example would be to do an incremental rsync to a second drive..
[13:36] <philinux> Ghostly: I use method 3 chroot
[13:37] <Ghostly> philinux: ok i will work on it thanks for the help so far :D
[13:37] <alazyworkaholic> KE1HA: I thought about just backing up, but it would be nice if I could wring some extra performance out the the system too, at least for the reads.
[13:37] <DasEi> janicko: sudo dhclient                     <<does this assign a IP  ?
[13:37] <zamba> i'm trying to redirect output from a program into file.. problem is that output is written in 4096 bytes large blocks
[13:38] <zamba> instead of continously
[13:38] <philinux> Ghostly: Although this is a little clearer. http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html
[13:38] <zamba> is there a way i can alter this behaviour?
[13:38] <S_p_or_t_o> !ubottu make error codes
[13:38] <S_p_or_t_o> !ubottu make
[13:38] <nenn3> Hello , i added a script to /etc/bash.bashrc . I need it to be run when people log in to gnome. however it is only run at terminal login
[13:38] <KE1HA> alazyworkaholic, What yuo need to think about is, what or how would you recover from any Single-Point failure in the system. In the case of FakeRaid, if that's the single point failure, your data's lost.
[13:38] <abhijit> !factoid | S_p_or_t_o
[13:38] <DasEi> !brain > S_p_or_t_o
[13:38] <nenn3> What file runs at GUI login that i can use?
[13:38] <_DGM_> zamba: that might be the cluster size of your partition. Theres a difference between size on disk and actual size
[13:39] <zamba> _DGM_: so what can i do to get continuous output?
[13:39] <_DGM_> zamba: the actual file size should be what you expect it to be
[13:39] <S_p_or_t_o> DasEi: ubottu dont know nothing about no make error codes
[13:39] <albuewather> help
[13:39] <abhijit> !ask | albuewather
[13:39] <pietro_> hi, following site guide for creating bootable USB stick I went to point 6. That's it! When the process completes, you'll be ready to restart your computer and begin installing Ubuntu. - But after announced 4 minutes process I see progress window with Creatopn of persistent file, 100% done. And nothing all. I see this window for 2 hours now. Something went wrong. What can I do now? tnx
[13:39] <DasEi> S_p_or_t_o: so write a factoid :)
[13:39] <S_p_or_t_o> anyone know what make error code 2is
[13:39] <KE1HA> alazyworkaholic, and Single Drive performance sill always outperform a Mirror Implementation, through Disk I/O alone.
[13:40] <_DGM_> zamba: you don't. Thats how partitions work. If you have a 4kb cluster size on a partition, the file would always take up atleast 4kb even if you write 1 byte into it. Its normal.
[13:40] <alazyworkaholic> KE1HA: I guess I'll just wait for them to arrive, install a few ways & start a thread about it. KE1HA, DasEi, iceroot, thanks for the help.
[13:40] <abhijit> !details | S_p_or_t_o
[13:40] <S_p_or_t_o> DasEi: sure, once i figure it out lol :p
[13:40] <_DGM_> zamba: even further, you could have a 10gb file that only takes up 2 bytes of actual space on the disk.. therefor having "more" on the disk then thats actually possible :)
[13:41] <KE1HA> alazyworkaholic, Anytime, if you need more help there's lots of good info in the channel.
[13:41] <zamba> _DGM_: no, you misunderstand
[13:41] <alazyworkaholic> KE1HA: huh?? a single drive will outperform a raid 1? makes no sense. writes have to go to both, but reads should be ~2x fast. Why's that wrong?
[13:41] <zamba> _DGM_: i'm not looking at the file size now.. i'm doing 'tail -f' and noticing that nothing happens for long periods of time
[13:41] <gianni_> aiuto non riesco ad accedere nella posta di hotmail
[13:42] <gianni_> c'è qualcuno in ascolto ?  non riesco ad accedere nella posta di hotmail
[13:42] <_DGM_> zamba: but if you're piping from a command, it will write when either the buffer is full or when the program has finished running. Thats just the buffer size then.
[13:42] <abhijit> !en | gianni_
[13:42] <KE1HA> alazyworkaholic, Check out a couple applications called IO-test, and IO-meter, they will tell you the real performance of your disks & disk I.O choices.
[13:42] <alazyworkaholic> KE1HA: I think even with 2 disks (up to about 4 top of the line ssd's i imagine) I'd be a long way from saturating the sata 3gbps.
[13:42] <Somelauw> I have a postscript file, but I can't open it. Here is it's source: http://pastebin.com/asMzJedV Here is the error message: http://www.pastebin.org/478700
[13:42] <abhijit> gianni_, which language you speak?
[13:43] <log|in> join #shellium
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[13:43] <alazyworkaholic> KE1HA: will do, thanks.
[13:43] <FloodBot2> log|in: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <Pici> !it | gianni_
[13:43] <_DGM_> zamba: you will have to recompile your kernel and change PIPE_SIZE to something smaller then 4096
[13:43] <zamba> _DGM_: and then suddenly a whole chunk of data.. when in fact, if i don't redirect stdout, then it's a continous stream of output
[13:43] <S_p_or_t_o> i'm following a guide online for thinning out ubuntu, going for a 1000fps steam server, i dl'ed 2.6.33 from kernel.org and i keep seeing error 2 regarding drivers with make & make-kpkg
[13:44] <_DGM_> zamba: because stdio buffer clears on \n, instead of when the buffer is full
[13:44] <zamba> _DGM_: ah, so there's no way i can force this?
[13:45] <zamba> _DGM_: maybe pipe it through something first?
[13:45] <_DGM_> zamba: only by changing it in the kernel and recompiling as far as i know
[13:45] <S_p_or_t_o> ^^ it has something to do with make menuconfig prolly
[13:45] <zamba> _DGM_: ok
[13:45] <_DGM_> zamba: in the kernel code search for PIPE_SIZE or something similar
[13:46] <zamba> _DGM_: recompiling the kernel is out of the question for this :)
[13:46] <_DGM_> zamba: the only other way would be seeing if the program has some kind of logging feature on itself, instead of piping
[13:46] <jordan1010> Anybody know how to add HFS+ support to Gparted
[13:47] <zamba> _DGM_: yeah, i'm investigating that now
[13:47] <Ghostly> philinux: Hurray finaly it works, the chroot really worked nicely thanks a lot! :D
[13:48] <_DGM_> zamba: i *think* you might also be able to write a simple C program that executes through fork. If you then change the stdio to a file descriptor before you do that, i think it will not use the pipesize. but thats just a guess
[13:48] <FoolsRun> Hi, everyone. I have a weird X11 config issue: My nVidia video card and display are both capable of 1080p resolution, and I've used the proprietary nVidia driver and tool to set the 1080p resolution. However, after reboot, it defaults back to 640x480, the loweset available resolution for the driver. Is it possible to change this default and have it automatically pick the 1080p resolution?
[13:48] <philinux> Ghostly: Nice one. Would have been hard to solve without meifeira's script. Chroot is excellent
[13:49] <alazyworkaholic> Do all common linux filesystem work well on an mdadm or dmraid soft-raid 1 array? or do some suffer, stutter & die?
[13:50] <KE1HA> jordan1010, what version of UB are you on ?
[13:50] <monkeystador> Having some trouble with volume change notifications coming up using the laptop keys for volume. Anyone know which program controls these notifications?
[13:50] <jordan1010> 10.4
[13:50] <jordan1010> KE1HA: 10.4
[13:50] <ame> hi . i install fvwm-crystal . but my xterm font is too small. how can i let it more big ?
[13:51] <ame> hi . i install fvwm-crystal . but my xterm font is too small. how can i let it more big ?
[13:51] <jordan1010> KE1HA: Just figured it out tho, hfsprogs needed to be installed
[13:51] <KE1HA> jordan1010, Intersting, I thought that support was available in like 0.38/0.39  somthing like that.
[13:51] <Vooloo> how do i get the latest f-spot in 10.04 ? do I need to go unstable?
[13:51] <silverash> Hey all, I'm looking for a tut or something to configure a virtual user in vsftpd, anyone got any good links for me?
[13:52] <ame> hi . i install fvwm-crystal . but my xterm font is too small. how can i let it more big ?
[13:52] <jordan1010> KE1HA: I dunno, hope i dont need to LiveCD and do this again (Might forget name of package),
[13:52] <jordan1010> Now to fix my tri boot
[13:52] <KE1HA> jordan1010, Yes, that was the actual patch or fix if you will :-)
[13:53] <monkeystador> wouldnt xterm have its own configuration file too  ?
[13:53] <KE1HA> jordan1010, 332.25 is in the repos
[13:54] <_DGM_> bleh where the ** did they move samba service on ubuntu this time :P its not in init.d anymore
[13:54] <jordan1010> KE1HA: 332.25 of what?
[13:54] <justSimplyBob> Hi everyone, I have another issue. I am trying to re-install XP, I am mutli-booting XUbuntu/Peppermint/XP(well trying) and my computer is not booting from disc any more. I have a GRUB2 partition that seems to work just fine booting the Xubuntu and Peppermint. any suggestions?
[13:54] <KE1HA> jordan1010, hfsprogs
[13:54] <jordan1010> Yeah just installed it
[13:54] <jordan1010> Hope this works right
[13:54] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: "booting from disc", you mean it won't boot from the CD?
[13:55] <philinux> littlepenguin: /set irc_conf_mode on
[13:55] <monkeystador> i think he means from harddisk.
[13:55] <justSimplyBob> Correct it will not boot from any CD
[13:55] <monkeystador> strange.
[13:55] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: how are you trying to make it boot from CD?
[13:55] <KE1HA> jordan1010, cool, glad it's sorted.
[13:55] <mrcan> hiku, i changed my orginal /etc/hosts file for youtube but now i have problem when i write sudo su it says "sudo: unable to resolve host" but it works i want fix this so i need orginal hosts filen anybody can upload it?
[13:55] <mrcan> hi , i changed my orginal /etc/hosts file for youtube but now i have problem when i write sudo su it says "sudo: unable to resolve host" but it works i want fix this so i need orginal hosts filen anybody can upload it?
[13:55] <DIURNO67> !LIST
[13:56] <justSimplyBob> From the quickboot menu at start up and selecting boot from CD
[13:56] <littlepenguin> nice philinux ...but now it tells me im no admin operator so i think  its not possible so
[13:56] <monkeystador> this is an issue of your bios. you have to put the cd drive before all harddisks.
[13:56] <philinux> littlepenguin: more google foo needed then.
[13:56] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: what _does_ it do? Have you tried other bootable CDs?
[13:56] <MWelchUK_work_> Vooloo, You could try the PPA - https://launchpad.net/~f-spot/+archive/f-spot-ppa
[13:56] <monkeystador> Having some trouble with volume change notifications coming up using the laptop keys for volume. Anyone know which program controls these notifications?
[13:56] <Vooloo> MWelchUK_work_: nice thanks
[13:56] <littlepenguin> philinux: its not that important..ill get through with those nervy messages..at home everything is correct configured :d
[13:57] <justSimplyBob> It says hit any key to boot from CD and when I do that nothing happens and the CD spins to a stop after a bit. I tried the Recovery Disc that Came with the computer and a new copy of XP I had also.
[13:57] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: are you using a USB keyboard for this?
[13:57] <justSimplyBob> no
[13:57] <jerryluc> anyone having trouble returning from suspend with gma500? 9.10
[13:58] <FoolsRun> Damn
[13:58] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: when did it work last?
[13:58] <KE1HA> justSimplyBob, are you wanting to get ride of the linux partitions altogether ?
[13:59] <monkeystador> might be just that the xp cd isnt bootable and the recovery disc is not working anymore cuz you maybe killed your recovery partitions?
[13:59] <justSimplyBob> a few hours ago, before I made a GRUB partition and GRUB2
[13:59] <Vooloo> MWelchUK_work_: what is the full line?
[14:00] <Vooloo> MWelchUK_work_: nevermidn, found it
[14:00] <KE1HA> well, that wiped out the MBR at that point, is that what you want back on, to recover the MBR?
[14:00] <_DGM_> justSimplyBob: try burning the disc again at a slower speed
[14:00] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: GRUB shouldn't interfere with the BIOS. Have you tried changing the boot order in the BIOS to put the CD at the top?
[14:00] <justSimplyBob> KE1HA:No I want to keep the Linux partitions and I already have a XP partition made and in NTFS format
[14:01] <_DGM_> justSimplyBob: being able to boot from the cd/dvd has nothing to do with anything on the harddrives. Its either a broken disc or a bad drive. Try reburning the disc on a slower speed
[14:01] <zino> Another GDM question: How do you change GDM theme? I've tried changing GraphicalTheme to an existing one (Tropic) in both /etc/gdm/custom.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm-ccd.conf without effect.
[14:01] <justSimplyBob> FoolsRun:not yet, will that make a difference from the one time boot menu?
[14:01] <KE1HA> justSimplyBob, boot from a USB key if you can get the CD-Rom/Media funcitonal for whatever reason and recover Grub2
[14:01] <monkeystador> totally. its all in the bios or the discs.
[14:01] <KE1HA> "if you can't get"
[14:01] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: no, it won't affect the one-time menu, it'll make the machine try to boot from the CD-ROM drive before even looking for hard drives.
[14:01]  * zino runs off to a meeting
[14:02] <justSimplyBob> FoolsRun: Thank you I will give that a try.
[14:02] <realeyes> hey guy, I just installed Ubuntu and ran 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' :: What else should I run?
[14:03] <FoolsRun> Can anyone help me figure out how to set the default resolution for an autologged-in user? GDM defaults to the lowest available resolution rather than the highest.
[14:03] <monkeystador> anyone knows why the gnome notification popups interrupt flash fullscreen?
[14:03] <KE1HA> realeyes, Info on RE : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[14:04] <KE1HA> there'a few other tweaks it talks about on the page.
[14:04] <abhijit> !resolution | FoolsRun
[14:04] <FoolsRun> So, "figure it out yourself". Alright.
[14:06] <KE1HA> FoolsRun, Im not a X11 guru, but I would think, once ur logged the first time, change the session settings, and they should stick.
[14:06] <studentz> FoolsRun which video card are you using?
[14:06] <FoolsRun> KE1HA: I would think so, too, but it doesn't. I'm setting them with the nVidia proprietary tool which is probably part of the problem
[14:07] <studentz> FoolsRun which driver for nvidia are you using?
[14:07] <abhijit> !nvidia | FoolsRun
[14:07] <KE1HA> FoolsRun, What is an autologged-in user? no pw logging or somethign, that's a new term to me.
[14:08] <FoolsRun> KE1HA: probably not an official term or anything. I have a user set to automatically log in and start XMBC
[14:08] <FoolsRun> XBMC
[14:09] <_DGM_> KE1HA: you can set a user to auto log in.. that way you dont have to type your pass all the time when rebooting
[14:09] <FoolsRun> studentz: great question. I'm not in front of the machine at the moment and my remote session won't show me. I'll probably have to ask again when I'm near the problem machine.
[14:09] <KE1HA> FoolsRun, Oh, ok, I'd think chaging the xorg.conf default set would do it, but lets let these other guys help ya on this one asn im not that swift on X.
[14:10] <KE1HA> _DGM_, tnx.
[14:10] <rileyp> youtube crashes when I slect full screen
[14:10] <rileyp> lucid intel vga any help much appreciated
[14:11] <oik> can anybody help me? I'm trying to boot ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64 on a dell e6400. I've seen posts on the internet which indicate people have installed it successfully, but I can't even get it to boot. I've tried optical media and usb but I just can't do it. I can boot 32 bit just fine
[14:11] <FoolsRun> Just kinda sucks that it doesn't work automatically. Newer versions of X are supposed to be all fancy and .conf-file-free
[14:12] <abhijit> oik, does it give any error?
[14:12] <HydroUK> hey, ctrl-f4 ha stopped working, how do i reset that? its used to close currect document/tab
[14:12] <FoolsRun> oik: do you get the menu from the LiveCD? "Install", "Use without changin..." etc?
[14:12] <HydroUK> ha/has
[14:12] <MWelchUK_work_> oik, boot 32-bit from CD and run "cat /proc/cpuinfo" from a terminal
[14:12] <oik> i get the menu but when i hit enter it does nothing
[14:12] <FoolsRun> oik: ignore my question and listen to MWelchUK_work_.
[14:13] <oik> only menu option that works is boot from hard disk
[14:13] <FoolsRun> oik: that sounds more like a bad burn
[14:13] <KE1HA> rileyp, is it an i8xx series chip-set?
[14:13] <oik> when i tried to boot a loopback iso, it said 'you need to load the linux kernel first'
[14:13] <abhijit> !md5 | oik
[14:13] <MWelchUK_work_> FoolsRun, Unless syslinux runs in 32-bit mode
[14:13] <HydroUK> hey, ctrl-f4 ha stopped working, how do i reset that? its used to close currect document/tab, anybody?
[14:13] <FoolsRun> MWelchUK_work_: shhhhhh
[14:14] <FoolsRun> HydroUK: don't keep asking; someone will help if they can
[14:14] <HydroUK> lmao
[14:14] <HydroUK> sure, you guys rarely answer
[14:14] <HydroUK> but three will answer to one person heheh
[14:14] <rileyp> KE1HA,  yes it is
[14:14] <iceroot> HydroUK: you mean alt + f4?
[14:14] <FoolsRun> HydroUK: being a dick won't get you help faster.
[14:14] <MWelchUK_work_> HydroUK, You haven't even specified which application
[14:14] <janicko> could i have help to set up my wireless router?
[14:15] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: how'd it go?
[14:15] <KE1HA> rileyp, bad news mate, there's loads of trouble with it.
[14:15] <HydroUK> no alt-f4 closes the application
[14:15] <HydroUK> FoolsRun: your mouthy huh
[14:15] <abhijit> !wifi | janicko
[14:15] <FoolsRun> HydroUK: My mouthy what?
[14:15] <_DGM_> HydroUK: you're the one that wants help.. not us
[14:15] <Pici> FoolsRun: Please mind your attitude here.
[14:15] <oik> argh thanks for the help guys it's a bad image
[14:15] <rileyp> Umm it might be intel gma hang on
[14:15] <KE1HA> rileyp, there's a work-around page, but its hit or miss on wether is works on a given box.
[14:15] <rileyp> Ill llok
[14:15] <HydroUK> i wouldn't of responded if you weren't so quick to tell people to sshhh
[14:15] <FoolsRun> Pici: fine, fine. Early morning. Sorry.
[14:16] <monkeystador> i found the thing about the notify-osd package. Anyone know how to disable specific onscreen notifications?
[14:16] <gdz> #list
[14:16] <KE1HA> rileyp, I'll go find it.
[14:16] <FoolsRun> HydroUK: I wasn' telling anyone to shhh. I was making a bad joke.
[14:16] <HydroUK> ok cool
[14:16]  * HydroUK has had one of those days also ;)
[14:16] <justSimplyBob> FoolsRun: It didn't work. after I hit the key for "press any key to boot from CD, it said Checking system hardware..(I forget the exact wording) then it will stop
[14:17] <FoolsRun> Checking system hardware.... which CD is this?
[14:17] <KE1HA> rileyp, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[14:17] <justSimplyBob> I the CD is good I just did an install from it yesterday
[14:17] <justSimplyBob> *I know
[14:17] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: which CD was this?
[14:18] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: be aware that the restore CDs from your manufacturer might wipe out the whole drive.
[14:18] <_DGM_> any idea why my sound is so quiet even though all sliders are maxed out
[14:18] <justSimplyBob> FoolsRun: XP
[14:18] <Rogue1> Enquiry: I have a server which won't boot from a Live install on a USB flash drive - it the best bet just to use an ISO on a CD-ROM, as opposed to editing grub to allow boot from USB?
[14:18] <justSimplyBob> FoolsRun: I used a XP cd I just burned
[14:18] <FoolsRun> _DGM_: try sudo alsamixer. For some reason other sliders sometimes appear there.
[14:18] <_DGM_> FoolsRun: ye i just found out after i asked that they're not in sync thanks :P
[14:19] <_DGM_> thats .. dumb
[14:19] <_DGM_> lol
[14:19] <oCean_> Rogue1: are you sure the bios of your server is set to boot usb?
[14:19] <FoolsRun> _DGM_: totally dumb. I spent a weekend fighting with Pulse before I tried that.
[14:19] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: Do you have another CD-ROM drive you could try? Could you try making a bootable USB key?
[14:19] <MWelchUK_work_> justSimplyBob, you tried cleaning your cd drive?
[14:19] <janicko> abhijit:hopefully it would help
[14:20] <abhijit> janicko, ok
[14:20] <Rogue1> oCean_, don't have a boot-from-USB option, unfortunately.
[14:20] <_DGM_> justSimplyBob: did you try burning at a *slower* speed like i suggested?
[14:20] <_DGM_> 4x or 8x for example
[14:20] <_DGM_> 2x if its a dvd
[14:20] <oCean_> Rogue1: in that case I'd say boot from the cdrom indeed
[14:21] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: it still sounds liek a bad burn to me. Do you have any manufactured (not burned by you) bootable CDs you could try?
[14:21] <justSimplyBob> I want to make a bootable USB key, but I can not figure out how to make a XP USB key in Ubuntu
[14:21] <_DGM_> i might aswell talk to a wall lol
[14:21] <rileyp> KE1HA, Intel GMA 950)
[14:21] <HydroUK> bartpe is the only way to boot xp live
[14:21] <justSimplyBob> I do not have another one, and I do not have another disc to burn
[14:22] <amstan> hello
[14:22] <HydroUK> hello
[14:22] <FoolsRun> HydroUK: that's a good point. justSimplyBob: would you consider trying to burn a MiniPE or BartPE disk and booting that?
[14:22] <_DGM_> well if the disc is unreadable right after you burned it, its a faulty burn.. the only way to fix that is burning it slower
[14:22] <amstan> i'm in a restricted envoriment at work with windows only facing the internet, how can i do a apt-get update without internet?
[14:22] <rileyp> KE1HA, http://www.gigabyte.com.au/search/search.aspx?kw=230
[14:22] <amstan> i know synaptic has the generate download script, is there something similar for update?
[14:22] <KE1HA> rileyp, well, then Im not sure, but supposedly, the 9xx series were clear of that problem.
[14:22]  * HydroUK has discovered ctrl-w sorts the ctrl-f4 issue kinda ;)
[14:22] <oCean_> !offline | amstan
[14:23] <_DGM_> but PE on itself is limited to 24 hours runtime isnt it? after that it just reboots
[14:23] <KE1HA> rileyp, in fact it says to mod to i915 on boot, but that didn't work for me at all either.
[14:23] <FoolsRun> _DGM_ it would prove whether it's the disk or the drive, though
[14:23] <amstan> oCean_: that is not the question, the question is how to do update, my problem is that the database on the isolated computer is out of date causing a lot of 404s when i try to download
[14:23] <justSimplyBob> If I can do it to a usb yes
[14:23] <monkeystador> anyone know what packages/script/daemon takes care of evaluating laptop buttons?
[14:23] <janicko> abhijit: no help there
[14:23] <monkeystador> special laptop keys.
[14:23] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, Windows only proxy per chance?
[14:23] <KE1HA> justSimplyBob, have you read though this How-Too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[14:23] <justSimplyBob> I would have to try and scrounge up a blank CD
[14:23] <abhijit> !details | janicko
[14:24] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_: by proxy... it's more like... USB flash drives
[14:24] <_DGM_> FoolsRun: its probably the disc. It happens a lot with cheap discs to me :P
[14:24] <HydroUK> :>
[14:24] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, ouch.
[14:24] <_DGM_> FoolsRun: i just burn it 1 step slower and its fine
[14:24] <FoolsRun> _DGM_ Yeah
[14:24] <amstan> yeah.. retarded admins
[14:24] <Monkey_Dust> amstan?
[14:24] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: you said before that you have restore disks that shipped with the machine. Can you try booting one of those (carefully, don't let it restore)?
[14:24] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, I'd probablt think about creating a repository mirror on a USB hard-drive
[14:25] <janicko> is somebody here who would help me to set wireless router? System recognize it, it even say that its connected, but cant browse on itnernet and in connection iformation it say it got speed 53 mb?s but on wired is 100
[14:25] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_: that might be too big, i only want to install stuff like ssh, git and python-qt
[14:25] <rileyp> Keiha I have a amd 64 with a nvidia 5700 that does it as well running lkarmic open youtube full screen and it closes
[14:25] <NiX4446Waterant> if I made a backup of my filesystem, can I restore svn from it? seems like I should've use 'svnadmin dump', but I didn't :O
[14:25] <justSimplyBob> FoolsRun: I did try with the restore disk and it got just as far
[14:25] <KE1HA> rileyp, doing a quick google, there's lots of activity on the 9xx seres as well.
[14:26] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: have you tried the restore disk since changing the boot order?
[14:26] <justSimplyBob> FoolsRun:yes I did
[14:26] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, you can always download the packages you want and just click on them in the GUI, though you will be in dependancy hell.
[14:26] <abhijit> janicko, first of all that 52mbps and 100mbps are not you internet speed. that are the speed  of the connection medium 52 mbps is the maximum capacity of your wifi and 100mbps is the maximum capacity of the wire connected to you comptuer.
[14:26] <ePirat> i have a simple question, ubuntu server has a ui?
[14:26] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_: i'm trying to avoid that
[14:26] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: and your CDs don't have huge scratches or fingerprints on them, right?
[14:26] <rileyp> KE1HA,  thats what I thought so Ill leave it for now its not used ofetn to wacth anything anyhow as its my mythbackend server in the shed
[14:26] <justSimplyBob> Clean as a whistle
[14:27] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: might be your CD drive. Desktop or laptop?
[14:27] <abhijit> janicko, to see the internet speed  go to system>administration>system monitor there you can see it under resoures
[14:27] <justSimplyBob> laptop
[14:27] <janicko> abhijit: ok, fine, but problem is that i can't connect thru wireless router and need help with that
[14:27] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: yuck. Got another laptop you could swap a drive from? How about another machine to try booting the disks in to prove it's not the disks?
[14:28] <justSimplyBob> It is also strange that in Xubuntu my Cd drive comes up twice
[14:28] <KE1HA> rileyp, yep, I've got a brick on the shelf until this gets fixed as well.
[14:28] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, ask your admins to do it? ;-)
[14:28] <gryllida> how do I change password in bash cmd?
[14:28] <FoolsRun> amstan: is it a proxy or a filter?
[14:28] <justSimplyBob> Not at the moment. I have to wait till my room mate wakes up and I am not sure she'll let me on her comp
[14:28] <gryllida> my own user password, like 'passchange' command or something
[14:28] <KE1HA> rileyp, the server editions runs well on it though :-)
[14:28] <abhijit> janicko, do you get any error?
[14:29] <FoolsRun> justSimplyBob: Since it's not a software problem (or doesn't seem to be) I think I'm at the end of my abilities.
[14:29] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_, FoolsRun : they don't want to touch the ubuntu comp, it's all alien him and it doesn't have an antivirus :O!!!
[14:29] <justSimplyBob> Ok thank you very much
[14:29] <FoolsRun> amstan: if it's a filter you might be able to authenticate to it manually
[14:29] <janicko> abhijit: no error, just  it say its connected but i can't go on internet at all, it does not load
[14:30] <abhijit> janicko, can you ping to www.google.com?
[14:30] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, tell him it's either an internet connection or un-patched machine...
[14:30] <rileyp> KE1HA, I use my single core atom as my mythbackend server. Ive re3corded 12 sd channels at once on it without error
[14:30] <amstan> FoolsRun: i would rather solve this offline somehow
[14:30] <Glowball> Probably quite a stupid question, but if I install Ubuntu with a language other than English, will the language pack be fully downloaded automatically after install or do I still have to do that manually?
[14:30] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_: unpatched machine is not really a problem when there's no internet
[14:30] <janicko> i'm doing it whole morning
[14:30] <KE1HA> rileyp, atoms are nice.
[14:30] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_: only a problem for me, lol
[14:30] <abhijit> !who | janicko
[14:31] <abhijit> janicko, go to application>accessories>terminal there type ping www.google.com does it vive you reply?
[14:31] <MWelchUK_work_> ansgar, Then create a full repository mirror - if they complain ask for the internet connection...
[14:31] <MWelchUK_work_> sorry amstan ^^^^
[14:32] <FoolsRun> heh
[14:32] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_: how big is the repo again?
[14:32] <janicko> abhijit: could try
[14:32] <FoolsRun> "Why are you downloading two hundred gigabytes of data?"
[14:32] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, v. big at a guess.
[14:33] <mrconnerton> I'm looking for a freelance linux sysadmin to help with security of my clients vps when development of their sites are finished before they go live, and then monthly checkups.
[14:33] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, When it comes to leverage, the bigger the better.
[14:33] <LogicalDash> Can I do incremental-type backups with Ubuntu One?
[14:33] <syn-ack> yes and no
[14:34] <KE1HA> LogicalDash, sure, use a smal scrypt and something like rsync and ur goo to go.
[14:34] <syn-ack> LogicalDash, Use sbackup and save to your ubuntu one directory.
[14:34] <LogicalDash> oh
[14:34] <LogicalDash> that works
[14:34] <LogicalDash> thanks
[14:34] <FoolsRun> haha
[14:34] <FoolsRun> easiest question ever
[14:34] <FoolsRun> or answer
[14:34] <FoolsRun> That's a great idea
[14:35] <KE1HA> LogicalDash, but like said, it's on a small space, so compress well or get the expansion that's available.
[14:35] <pietro_> problem resolved on another linux box with Ubuntu 9.10
[14:36] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_: well.. here's my list http://pastebin.org/479016
[14:36] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_: if you can help me track down those 404s
[14:37] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, they will probably be updated packages, which you'd need to update the package lists to detemine (and any new dependencies)
[14:37] <KE1HA> that's allot of 404's :-)
[14:37] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, packages.ubuntu.com will probably help.
[14:38] <FoolsRun> amstan: is this Ubuntu machine a desktop or a laptop? If laptop, coulnd't you just bring it home?
[14:38] <amstan> FoolsRun: desktop
[14:38] <FoolsRun> No internet at all? Can't even SSH tunnel to your home network and dowload from there?
[14:39] <ylmfos> you
[14:39] <Kurlon> I'm stuck trying to track down samba issues on a Lucid box.  I've eliminated a kernel triggered lockup by moving to a mainline kernel, but I'm still having failures over time that feel like a memleak/etc within Samba itself.  Is there a straight forward way to upgrade to the Maverick Samba build without moving the whole box to Maverick?
[14:39] <FoolsRun> What about setting up your Windows box to share its network with the Ubuntu machine?
[14:39] <cambazz> hello, what was the name of the command that removed unnecessary packages
[14:40] <FoolsRun> cambazz: apt-get autoremove ?
[14:40] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, are you connected to a network?
[14:40] <amstan> MWelchUK_work_: no.. no network
[14:40] <FoolsRun> amstan: no network connected?
[14:40] <Raydiation> hi im looking for a good soundcard (NO CREATIVE) that works fine with 10.04
[14:41] <MWelchUK_work_> amstan, so, um, what use are ssh server, mercurial and vnc?
[14:42] <FoolsRun> MWelchUK_work_: I want to see if he can set up an SSH server on a Windows box and tunnel the internet from there. Mostly because that would be awesome.
[14:43] <MWelchUK_work_> FoolsRun, but he's not connected to a network
[14:43] <FoolsRun> MWelchUK_work_: I thought it was just that he couldn't reach the internet because of a windows-only proxy or filter
[14:44] <MWelchUK_work_> FoolsRun, no sounds like no network connection at all. Is that right amstan?
[14:44] <dn> hi everyone, recently I've  installed Google Earth on my Ubuntu 10.04 and it doesn't work properly. When I start the program and zoom in 3d earth many stripes appear and I can't see normally towns etc.. Please help me
[14:45] <FoolsRun> Can't he just... plug one in?
[14:45] <BobSapp> sounds like its conflicting with compiz
[14:46] <BobSapp> guys a little help please i have a samsung r60 laptop with an ati radeon xpress 1250 integrated graphics
[14:46] <kanzie> Im trying to get ssconvert running but fail with error: GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Not running within active session). Any takers?
[14:46] <FoolsRun> BobSapp: did you ask your question already?
[14:47] <BobSapp> i can install ubuntu if i use the nomodeset boot parameter, but when i boot the resulting installe ubuntu i get a black screen.
[14:47] <administrator_> df
[14:47] <BobSapp> i guess my question is how can i boot ubuntu?
[14:47] <FoolsRun> BobSapp: if you press CTRL+ALT+F2 do you get a login prompt?
[14:47] <BobSapp> no
[14:47] <BobSapp> also ctrl+alt+del wont work
[14:48] <FoolsRun> CTRL+ALT+DEL won't do anything anyway.
[14:48] <BobSapp> ok
[14:48] <FoolsRun> Sounds like one of those silly laptop display issues
[14:48] <BobSapp> yeah
[14:48] <FoolsRun> Hang on, I found the answer to this once
[14:48] <Jiriel> yay I created my first shortcut on the desktop
[14:48] <BobSapp> could well be, i could run 9.10 just fine
[14:48] <afeijo_br> you guys said that its a good option to do a clean install and restore the backup.  How would that work?
[14:49] <KE1HA> BobSapp, Best thing I can suggest is the Radion Driver support page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[14:49] <dn> well I've installed already Compiz, I think I need proprietary drivers for my video card. My output is: ~$ sudo lshw -C display
[14:49] <dn>   *-display
[14:49] <dn>        description: VGA compatible controller
[14:49] <dn>        product: RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[14:49] <dn>        vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
[14:49] <afeijo_br> any tool to automatize it?
[14:49] <FloodBot2> dn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <dn>        physical id: 5
[14:49] <FoolsRun> jesus
[14:50] <_DGM_> dn: yes you need proprietary drivers for proper 3d acceleration
[14:50] <_DGM_> which google earth uses
[14:50] <augustus> can someone help me revert from nvidia 256.44 driver to 256.35?
[14:50] <FoolsRun> BobSapp, the livecd works OK?
[14:50] <_DGM_> augustus:  why would you want to do that?
[14:50] <BobSapp> only when i set the nomodeset boot parameter
[14:50] <KE1HA> BobSapp, did you see my post, it says your Driver is supported on the How-Too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[14:50] <FoolsRun> dn, have you installed proprietary drivers?
[14:50] <BobSapp> yes im looking there now thanks KE1HA
[14:51] <BobSapp> it says my card is supported
[14:51] <KE1HA> Ok, sri, there was a huge flood there for a moment :-)
[14:51] <mernilio> hi all! I found a pretty fast pc, but it has a "raid-bios", is it possible to just write it over with a standard bios?
[14:51] <dn> on debian I can install but for ubuntu I can't find them or I try and it doesn't work lol
[14:51] <augustus> DGM:My nvidia gt 240 freezes http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=153875
[14:51] <_DGM_> mernilio: what? why do you want to do that?
[14:51] <FoolsRun> dn, click System/Administration/Hardware Drivers
[14:51] <trond-> afeijo_br, run rsync to backup your computer and you can then decide what to restore and what not to restore.
[14:52] <mernilio> _DGM_: i dont use RAID, that's why
[14:52] <beppo> hello
[14:52] <afeijo_br> trond-: backup everything!?!?
[14:52] <_DGM_> mernilio: you can always just disable it. My bios supports raid to i dont use it either
[14:52] <trond-> afeijo_br, with rsync you can exclude stuff you don't want to add.
[14:52] <afeijo_br> I want to virtualize my server, to move to vmware
[14:52] <beppo> i don't get nfs server running, showmount results in ->clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered
[14:52] <sburjan> hello. can someone tell me how can I disable the lock screen from 10.04 ?
[14:52] <trond-> afeijo_br, kinda of server? Ubuntu?
[14:52] <mernilio> _DGM_: well, i could, and it works right now, but the boot-process is somewhat slow.
[14:52] <sm3gal> ok i got a theme i like for emerald
[14:52] <afeijo_br> trond-: yes the question is, which folders should I copy?
[14:52] <afeijo_br> yes ubuntu
[14:52] <sm3gal> how i install it?
[14:53] <dn> yup it says - No proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[14:53] <michelinux> Hi. Just installed Openshot, but all the transitions and Effects are missing. Already tried on a different computer without any problem. Am I missing any dependencies?
[14:53] <_DGM_> mernilio: what motherboard do you have?
[14:53] <FoolsRun> dn: does it offer any?
[14:53] <sm3gal> sburjan, did you lock your self out?
[14:53] <dn> just Software modem lol
[14:53] <_DGM_> mernilio: my crosshair iv is rather slow on the boot too compared to my other computers
[14:53] <KE1HA> mernilio, How does it run after the boot though, thats what's really important I would think.
[14:53] <mernilio> _DGM_: i dont remember, i found the pc down the hall. Oki ^^
[14:53] <mernilio> KE1HA: true
[14:53] <_DGM_> and yes what KE1HA says
[14:54] <FoolsRun> dn: it's possible no 3D drivers are available and so 3D programs like Google Earth just won't work
[14:54] <Jiriel> alright, so I am using 10.04, just created my first launcher on the desktop, how do I change the icon? I found out how to set an emblem for it which is kind of cool.
[14:54] <trond-> afeijo_br, I would go for etc and home at least. Just to have backup of those. If you have a webserver under /var/www, backup that as well.
[14:54] <_DGM_> dont try just overwriting the bios with another.. the chance that that works is reaaaally small
[14:54] <KE1HA> mernilio, Hopefully, reboot isn't an issue :-)
[14:54] <_DGM_> and you could trash the whole board
[14:54] <_DGM_> :P
[14:54] <afeijo_br> ok I will, thanks!
[14:54] <dn> ok I got it back to debian X_X
[14:54] <dn> ty anyway ;)
[14:54] <Jiriel> dn - ubuntu doesnt mess around. You got saaaaaaaaaacked. :P
[14:55] <_DGM_> it ran fine on debian?
[14:55] <_DGM_> meh ati drivers never play nice on linux anyway :P
[14:55] <mernilio> _DGM_: but it was quite a good find. An 2Gig Athlon64, the only thing i had to do was to install a h-drive and memory
[14:55] <FoolsRun> BobSapp, it works with nomodeset  right? Have you tried full updates and proprietary drivers?
[14:55] <mernilio> Ghz *even
[14:55] <_DGM_> mernilio: they just drop those in the hallway? sounds suspecious :P
[14:55] <v00lcano> guys, I have a newly installed 10.04 machine and am trying to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication however there are looooots of inconsistencies, for example it asks to restart nscd but I have no /etc/init.d/nscd, also my /etc/libnss-ldap.conf is missing and I can't seem to find it anywhere else (updatedb && locate), I've found a libnss-ldap.conffiles in doc, but that just mentions /etc/init.d/libnss-ldap. Is there 
[14:55] <sm3gal> what is a good place to get themes for ubuntu
[14:55] <FoolsRun> dn, I only said it's possible. I'm not sure that's the problem.
[14:55] <mernilio> _DGM_: No.. ;-)
[14:56] <dn> yea I've found one day a web site which many commands to do that so I spend about 5-7 mins to configure my Ati proprietary driver on lenny
[14:56] <trond-> have just reinstalled ubuntu, and since some pages are using flash, which should I use. Which one is known to be more stable? Adobe Flash Plugin that comes with Ubuntu, or Gnash??
[14:56] <Glowball> Jiriel: Right click > Properties. Tab 'Basic' (the one that opens by default), click on the icon. Then you can select any image file.
[14:56] <dn> its ok ty :)
[14:56] <_DGM_> dn: thats why i avoid ati and stick to nvidia.. that and a couple of other reasons
[14:57] <dn> right Nvidia kick asses :)
[14:57] <KE1HA> v00lcano, those Server docs were for 9.04/9.10, most tof the server restart things /init.d changed, to sudo service-x restart / start / stop
[14:57] <FoolsRun> _DGM_, I just don't like red boards ;)
[14:57] <augustus> Can someone assist me with installing nvidia 256.35 driver?
[14:57] <dn> lol
[14:57] <KE1HA> v00lcano, there being updated, but it's taking a while.
[14:57] <_DGM_> FoolsRun: red boards?
[14:57] <kanzie> Im trying to get ssconvert running but fail with error: GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Not running within active session). Any takers?
[14:58] <Jiriel> Glowball: Woah, awesome.. Thank you!
[14:58] <FoolsRun> _DGM_, ATI tends to make their cards red
[14:58] <FoolsRun> _DGM_, stupid joke.
[14:58] <_DGM_> FoolsRun: haha oh yea i didnt think of that. The last ati i had was like 7 years ago. An old radeon :)
[14:58] <janicko> I need help to set my wireless router, it is recognized, it also say it is connected, but I can't go on internet
[14:58] <_DGM_> i'm never giving up my nvidia's anymore :>
[14:58] <BobSapp> scripts init bottom does anyone know what that is? its the last thing i see when booting before i get a blank screen
[14:59] <v00lcano> KE1HA: but was libnss-ldap no longer required? or why can't I find any conf for it?
[14:59] <FoolsRun> BobSapp, I asked above but you might have missed it: can you use nomodeset to get a functional desktop? Have you tried updates and proprietary drivers?
[14:59] <KE1HA> v00lcano, best place to ask for up to date info is probably in the ubuntu-server channel although, there may be folks here with server but ther's loads in the other channel that are realy up to speed on it.
[14:59] <BobSapp> FoolsRun: how do i use nomodeset in grub?
[14:59] <v00lcano> KE1HA: but I'm trying to configure a client not a server :)
[15:00] <FoolsRun> BobSapp: great question! I'll let our studio audience fill you in! (I have no idea)
[15:00] <KE1HA> v00lcano, pass mate, I've not built a 10.04 server yet, waining on the 10.04.1 realse then gonna go that direction.
[15:00] <BobSapp> I just tried booting in recovery mode and it halts the computer after it says someting about scripts/init-bottom
[15:00] <KE1HA> v00lcano, Oh, man, I thought you were talking about the server ... my bad.
[15:01] <NginUS> does anyone use btfrs on a fileserver?
[15:01] <BobSapp> i think theres a big difference between the kernel on the 10.04 cd and the one thats actually installed
[15:01] <v00lcano> KE1HA: thanks anyway :)
[15:01] <KE1HA> v00lcano, but the service scripts are the same for function, like samba, used to be init.d and now its sudo samba restart etc etc.
[15:01] <FoolsRun> BobSapp: but there have been a few kernel updates since then; if you can get updates to run you might find it fixes your issue.
[15:02] <sipior> NginUS: that might be a bit premature for data that you care about :-)
[15:02] <FoolsRun> Hey, everyone: BobSapp needs to know how to add a parameter to GRUB, from the GRUB menu. Is this possible?
[15:02] <BobSapp> i cant even get to gdm FoolsRun. it looks like the computer halts some point during bootup(capslock light doesnt respond)
[15:02] <NginUS> sipior : thats what i was afraid of, zfs nas's dont support virtio, & those that do don't do checksumming yet
[15:03] <NginUS> AFAIK
[15:04] <sipior> NginUS: i hear things are moving along rather swiftly with btrfs, so it may not be too long before it's polished enough for serious use. fingers crossed.
[15:04] <BobSapp> ok after some googleing it looks like i have to kopt=nomodeset in grub
[15:04] <NginUS> :)
[15:04] <FoolsRun> BobSapp, worth a shot. Might at least get you a desktop or terminal prompt
[15:05] <Alias01> I Installed ubuntu into a USB pen drive, but when i try to boot from it i get the following error: "remove disks or other media. press any key to restart" i tried on my netbook and on my pc, same error on both. what am i doing wrong?
[15:05] <ibm-t60> How do I check to see to what bus my individual devices are connected to through the terminal?
[15:06] <Oer> BobSapp, maybe this page is any help > i915.modeset=1 or i915.modeset=0; nVidia: nomodeset; Generic: xforce  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[15:06] <ibm-t60> I apologise for that
[15:06] <BobSapp> Oer: thanks i just saw that in google
[15:07] <ibm-t60> What did I miss?
[15:07] <Pici> fruitbag: sudo lshw is probably the easiest way to get that information.
[15:07] <fruitbag> Thank you, Pici
[15:07] <monkeystador> alias01, i have some kind of this error too.. but i could be very specific to my bios. Try to stick in your usb boot stick, start computer go straight to bios and then make that special usb stick first boot device. save and exit.
[15:07] <Pici> fruitbag: programatically, look at the manpage for lshw for the files that it looks at, they're in /proc
[15:07] <fruitbag> Wow
[15:07] <janicko> I need help to set my wireless router, it is recognized, it also say it is connected, but I can't go on internet
[15:07] <fruitbag> I have a SCSI DVD drive ;w
[15:07] <KE1HA> Alias01, how did you create the USB Boot Key, was it a procedure you followed ?
[15:08] <fruitbag> Interesting
[15:08] <Alias01> monkeystador:i did, the USB stick is the first one to boot. what else can it be? i don't have any hdd on my netbook so im trying to install it to the USB stick
[15:09] <Nicekiwi9> is the wubi app for kubuntu 10.04 broken?
[15:09] <bacon> hi please i'd like to know: The build-deps present in a debian/control file are needed for the installation of the package, or the execution of the programm contained in the .deb package?
[15:09] <monkeystador> then your boot stick is not working probably.
[15:09] <KE1HA> Alias01, have a read though this procedure, is this what you followed to make the USB/ Key? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[15:09] <sipior> fruitbag: you probably don't :-)
[15:10] <fruitbag> sipior, why does it show it to be associated with SCSI?
[15:10] <sed`> Does Ubuntu 10.04 recognize SSDs and optimize settings like the I/O scheduler for it? If not, what are some recommended settings for SSDs?
[15:10] <Alias01> KE1HA:the link you gave me is for radeon driver
[15:10] <fruitbag> "vender: MATSHITA    physical id:1   bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0
[15:10] <fruitbag> vendor *
[15:10] <sipior> fruitbag: check to see if you have a similar line attached to your ide controller.
[15:10] <KE1HA> Alias01, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick   Sri about that.
[15:11] <monkeystador> i made my boosticks with the windows tool .
[15:11] <KE1HA> Alias01, the other link was for Bob's issue :-)
[15:11] <fruitbag> My IDE controller is associated with the PCI bus
[15:11] <Alias01> KE1HA:im not trying to install from a USB stick, im trying to install TO a USB stick
[15:11] <BobSapp> damn
[15:11] <monkeystador> or unetbootin
[15:11] <BobSapp> still no further
[15:11] <sipior> fruitbag: no "logical name: scsi0"?
[15:11] <BobSapp> im gonna try turning off all kernel params
[15:11] <fruitbag> No, sipior
[15:11] <KE1HA> Alias01, Same Page, further down: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Installing%20Ubuntu%20directly%20on%20a%20USB%20Flash%20drive
[15:11] <fruitbag> One moment...
[15:12] <Alias01> KE1HA:thanks, i'll look into it
[15:12] <fruitbag> Actually, yes
[15:12] <sipior> fruitbag: the scsi id is a fiction the modern linux kernel uses to address disk devices.
[15:12] <sipior> fruitbag: of all types, not just genuine scsi disks.
[15:12] <fruitbag> I have: "logical name: scsi0;   logical name:scsi1
[15:12] <fruitbag> Why is that the case, sipior ?
[15:12] <sipior> fruitbag: simplicity.
[15:13] <fruitbag> Is the SCSI protocol used at all?
[15:13] <sipior> fruitbag: certainly
[15:13] <fruitbag> Interesting
[15:13] <fruitbag> Do you personally have any criticisms about such an approach?
[15:13] <sipior> fruitbag: i'm not a kernel hacker. my criticisms (if i had them) would be worth very little.
[15:14] <fruitbag> Very well
[15:14] <v00lcano> so guys, can noone help me configure ubuntu 10.04 as an openldap client? :( I'm googling around and can't seem to find anything for 10.04
[15:14] <fruitbag> How do I determine exactly to what bus the DVD drive is connected to?
[15:15] <sipior> fruitbag: there should be a physical id line in the lshw output
[15:15] <Kurlon> fruitbag: I think you can trace it using the files in /proc, lemmie dig for a sec...
[15:15] <amstan> fruitbag: lshw not helping?
[15:15] <fruitbag> It is
[15:15] <sipior> fruitbag: or look for "bus info"
[15:15] <fruitbag> Don't worry about it, guys... I don't want to put you through any trouble
[15:15] <KE1HA> cant you cat dmesg | grep DVD ?
[15:15] <ubuntu> quit
[15:16] <ubuntu> #quit
[15:16] <littlepenguin> v00lcano: http://tuxnetworks.blogspot.com/2010/04/ldap-client-lucid-lynx.html
[15:16] <Nicekiwi9> is the wubi app for kubuntu 10.04 broken?
[15:17] <fruitbag> One other thing...
[15:17] <janicko> I need help to set my wireless router, it is recognized, it also say it is connected, but I can't go on internet
[15:17] <KE1HA> fruitbag, dmesg | grep DVD pulled it on my box.
[15:17] <fruitbag> cdda2wav apparently 'Cannot open SCSI driver.'
[15:17] <wiill> janiko, do you have another computer which has internet acces on that same router
[15:18] <Kurlon> That sounds more like a permissions issue
[15:18] <wiill> janicko, do you have another computer which has internet acces on that same router
[15:18] <scryption5> hello all
[15:19] <Nicekiwi9> i downloads the kubuntu 10.04 disc and tried to do a wubi install, it went well untilll it started trying to download a torrent of the kubuntu ISO????
[15:19] <bwolfe> hello experts, quick question.  I have two internet connections, one wireless and one wired.  Is it possible to tell certain applications to preferentially use one connection over the other if its available?  can someone point me to an app or some documentation on how to do it?  thanks!
[15:19] <scryption5> how would i force notify bubble to show on top of fullscreen firefox ? it now stay's beneath firefox when it is running in F11 mode
[15:19] <scryption5> any tips are welcome
[15:20] <scryption5> i use the notify-deamon to get the info bubble
[15:20] <fruitbag> Any thoughts here on what I could do, guys?
[15:20] <BobSapp> ok wowo
[15:20] <salhow> for ubuntu, which is preferred, nvidia or amd video card?
[15:20] <BobSapp> i just think i solved it :)
[15:20] <scryption5> with zenity its the same thing
[15:20] <pteague_work> !alsa
[15:20] <BobSapp> either its radeon.nomodeset=0
[15:20] <NginUS> bwolfe: vyatta firewall can do that, it's called multi-wan
[15:20] <scryption5> unless i can force it on top somehow
[15:20] <BobSapp> or its the fact that i still had the ubuntu cd in the drive
[15:20] <Calinou> salhow: nvidia is better... i think
[15:21]  * bwolfe goes to check it out.  
[15:21] <bwolfe> thanks NginUS !
[15:21] <egiptoextremo> hola venezuela
[15:21] <wiill> janicko, were you ever able to connect to the net with that router
[15:21] <KE1HA> +1 on NV
[15:21] <afeijo_br> damn, after I updated my ubuntu distro to 9.10, mysql cant start :(
[15:21] <FoolsRun> BobSapp, congrats!
[15:21] <BobSapp> ty
[15:21] <salhow> Calinou: better driver support and such?
[15:21] <egiptoextremo> alguien habla español aqui
[15:21] <Calinou> i think...
[15:21] <Calinou> i can play games "normally" with nvidia
[15:22] <Calinou> you get some bugs with ati, that's harder
[15:22] <afeijo_br> /var/logs/mysql/msyql.log didnt help
[15:22] <salhow> Calinou; ok ty
[15:22] <janicko> wiill: no, i just get it the other day and yesterday i managed to get it recognized by ubuntu
[15:22] <_DGM_> salhow: nvidia is much better supported on linux as a whole
[15:22] <KE1HA> fruitbag, Did you check dmesg for the infor your looking fer?
[15:22] <_DGM_> salhow: always has been
[15:22] <sacarlson> afeijo_br: maybe just restart it?
[15:22] <wiill> janicko, which brand is it
[15:22] <afeijo_br> already did that
[15:23] <afeijo_br> where does mysql save error log?
[15:23] <sacarlson> afeijo_br: no errors when you restart from term
[15:23] <afeijo_br> not that I noticed
[15:23] <ikonia> afeijo_br: what sort of error ?
[15:23] <afeijo_br> just "...fail!"
[15:23] <sacarlson> afeijo_br: was in /var/logs  last I checked but maybe I should look
[15:23] <janicko> its belkin F6d4230-4
[15:23] <fruitbag> I have, KE1HA, though cdda2wav apparently cannot find SCSI drivers
[15:23] <afeijo_br> /var/log has a empty mysql.err
[15:24] <savid> Does anyone know of an app that will monitor my windows and track the amount of time different windows are focused?
[15:24] <janicko> wiill:its belkin F6d4230-4
[15:24] <sacarlson> savid: wow good idea never seen one
[15:24] <afeijo_br> hmm found something
[15:24] <wiill> janicko, ok so your Ubuntu comp recognize and is able to connect to the wireless network, but you are unable to browse the web
[15:24] <BobSapp> is there a way to list kernel parameters?
[15:24] <KE1HA> cdda2wav is that the CD name / type or somethign ?
[15:24] <v00lcano> littlepenguin: thanks
[15:24] <wiill> janicko, is that right
[15:25] <bwolfe> NginUS: vyatta seems to be a full firewall OS solution.  is there anything I can just install on my current OS to just control it?
[15:25] <janicko> wiill: yes it's right
[15:25] <SimonSayez> KE1HA, What are you trying to do ?
[15:26] <wiill> janicko, try running "nslookup google.com" from the terminal
[15:26] <janicko> wiill: at lest it would write that my wireless modem is conected
[15:26] <janicko> wiill: you mean under  the wireless router?
[15:26] <KE1HA> SimonP86, me? help fruitbag figure out his CD-Rom issue.
[15:26] <wiill> janicko, on you computer
[15:26] <sacarlson> janicko: well sounds like progress, do you get an ip address from your dhcp server to see look at ifconfig
[15:26] <BobSapp> yep
[15:26] <NginUS> bwolfe: maybe, but I'm not entirely sure. There's something called bonding- a mode of bonding called alb, stands for adaptive load balancing- makes 2 NICs share a MAC (hardware) address somehow
[15:27] <BobSapp> radeon.modeset=0 fixes it
[15:27] <SimonSayez> lol@fruitbag
[15:27] <KE1HA> SimonSayez, sri .. Wrong Simon, just trying to help him figure out the issue on his CD-Rom
[15:27] <wiill> sacarlson, he wouldn't be connected if he didn't had an ip
[15:27] <Kingsy> does anyone know of a decent app that does reminders? i.e you can set a reminder on certain dates and times on a calender with a note? and it pops up at that set time?
[15:27] <Pacha> anyone here can give me a little help?
[15:27] <gryllida> Hi. I installed xfce, now some applications are seen in the menu twice (e.g. apps - accessories - I have 2 terminal menuitems). How do I get rid of them / put it back to place / uninstall xfce?
[15:27] <janicko> sacarlson: yes i have
[15:27] <NginUS> bwolfe : dunno if that'll work in your case tho- I think you need an external solution to do multiwan
[15:27] <gryllida> !details | Pacha
[15:28] <wiill> janicko, I just want to check if your DNS server is able to resolve names
[15:28] <KE1HA> BobSapp, Glad you got it sorted BobSapp I know that cna be frustraiting.
[15:28] <SimonSayez> Kingsy take a look at this see if it works for you: http://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php?option=com_rny_download
[15:28] <bwolfe> NginUS: yeah, thats not it.  I want Thunderbird+skype+irc to use my wireless but Firefox and everything else to use my wired connection
[15:28] <Oer> BobSapp, sudo sysctl -a | sort | more  >> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2114123,00.asp
[15:29] <Pacha> I had an ubuntu liveUSB in my pendrive, but unfortunatly it is not working for some strange reason. By running the compatibility mode, I can use the terminal, so Im trying to recover my files. The problem is that I am not being able to mount my windows partitions, where I want to put the recovered files.
[15:29] <pkkm> How to install kde?
[15:29] <BobSapp> thanks oer
[15:29] <wiill> janicko, if you can tell me what "nslookup google.com" returns it might give an hint
[15:29] <NginUS> bwolfe: can't help with that- never heard of anything to that extent, Id have to put them each in their own vm if i were to do that
[15:29] <Pacha> @pkkm sudo apt-get install kde
[15:29] <BobSapp> and kE1HA thanks too
[15:30] <Pacha> anyway to know my partition ID without fdisk?
[15:30] <Pacha> with ID I mean sdxx
[15:30] <pkkm> Pacha, "no installation candidate" (I'm on Lucid)
[15:30] <Pacha> hmm
[15:30] <Pacha> open the package manager
[15:30] <Kingsy> SimonSayez - exactly what I wanted thanks
[15:30] <_DGM_> Pacha: you're the one that partitioned :P shouldnt you know anyway
[15:31] <fr0y0z> Hello, I have a stupid question. Would anybody hapen to know what I type into terminal to start iReports? For some reason it's nowhere on the web
[15:31] <Pacha> _DGM_ in fact, no, the computer is not mine, the pendrive is
[15:31] <Nicekiwi9> hmmm $140USD for paid support for ubuntu...
[15:31] <Pacha> I can run the terminal on it
[15:31] <monkeystador> i like to disable the onscreen notifications for volumeUp/Down. Anyone done that beforeß
[15:32] <janicko> wiill: it gives answerNon-authoritative answer:
[15:32] <janicko> Name:	google.com
[15:32] <janicko> Address: 173.194.37.104
[15:32] <gryllida> Excuse me, did anyone even notice my question?
[15:32] <gryllida> above
[15:32] <Pacha> no sorry
[15:32] <wiill> janicko, ok so your server does resolve names
[15:32] <Pacha> again please
[15:33] <kavurt> Pacha: sudo blkid
[15:33] <gryllida> 10:27 < gryllida> Hi. I installed xfce, now some applications are seen in the menu twice (e.g. apps - accessories - I have 2 terminal menuitems). How  do I get rid of them / put it back to place / uninstall xfce?
[15:33] <wiill> janicko, now try in firefox to navigate to that address it gave you
[15:33] <bihari>  i have 2 gb in which i have install ubuntu and now i wants to make vbox and it asking for space so how much shud i assign space ?
[15:33] <Pacha> kavurt: let me tell you the full story
[15:33] <Pici> gryllida: You could run alacarte to customize your menus.
[15:33] <Pacha> I have an pendrive with an ubuntu liveusb
[15:33] <monkeystador> can someone help me on deciphering the dbus messages? i like to know which program send the notification message action.
[15:33] <abhijit> hmm
[15:33] <bihari>  i have 2 gb in which i have install ubuntu and now i wants to make virtualbox-ose and it asking for space so how much shud i assign space ?
[15:33] <gryllida> Pici: well, okay, and how do I uninstall xfce?
[15:33] <Pacha> but for some reason now I can only open the terminal
[15:34] <Pici> gryllida: How did you install it?
[15:34] <Pacha> I want to recover my files on it
[15:34] <Pacha> but not being able to mount my windows drive
[15:34] <Pacha> as the fdisk isnt working
[15:34] <gryllida> Pici: I think it was sudo apt-get install xfce
[15:34] <Kingsy> SimonSayez - have you used that app before?
[15:34] <sacarlson> why is this pidgin chat client seem to lock up about 2 times each day.  It requires me to log out and in again to get it to work.  maybe if I knew what to kill there would be another way but that's what I know.  on ubuntu 10.04
[15:34] <Pacha> so, I want to know the ID of my hard drive, sdxx, to mount it
[15:34] <KE1HA> bihari, you have 2GB space let of that is your total Ubuntu install space ?
[15:34] <KE1HA> Left*
[15:35] <kavurt> Pacha: have you tried sudo blkid? it will show you the drive with ntfs.
[15:35] <Pici> gryllida: sudo apt-get remove xfce4
[15:35] <afeijo> what is the command to check the syslog?
[15:35] <monkeystador> sacarlson: figure out how to enable debug output on your pidgin maybe
[15:36] <Pacha> I will try that. I come back with the results in some minutes(as I need to restart the computer)
[15:36] <sacarlson> monkeystador: like recompile it with debug on?  I'll leave that to the experts
[15:36] <gryllida> Pici: "Package xfce4 is not installed, so not removed
[15:36] <mikrl> hello
[15:37] <mikrl> spanish?
[15:37] <Pici> !es | mikrl
[15:37] <wiill> mikrl, hola como estas
[15:37] <mikrl> hello
[15:37] <sacarlson> monkeystador: but you got me thinking at least I'll run it in a term and see what comes out.
[15:37] <murlidhar> is there any way to automount two of my partitions ? if so how can i make it to automount them ?
[15:37] <monkeystador> sacarlson:  and maybe you can start pidgin with some parameter ...
[15:38] <mikrl>      i can will  startt in mode text
[15:38] <wiill> janicko, so how does it looks
[15:38] <mikrl> what press?
[15:38] <fr0y0z> Hello, I have a stupid question. Would anybody hapen to know what I type into terminal to start iReports? For some reason it's nowhere on the web
[15:38] <mikrl> for dont start gnome
[15:38] <wiill> janicko, if you navigate to http://173.194.37.104/ on firefox
[15:39] <Pici> gryllida: Well, You can remoev xfwm4, that should prompt to remove a bunch of other stuff that depends on it as well.
[15:40] <bihari> yes in 2GB i have installed ubuntu
[15:40] <bihari> now i wants to install virtualbox-ose and it asking for space
[15:40] <abhijit> good.
[15:40] <bihari> so how much shud i give
[15:40] <gryllida> Pici: Maybe. But currently it does not remove anything. It ouputs "Package xfce4 is not installed, so not removed".
[15:41] <gryllida> Pici: With 2 Terminals in Accessories menu.
[15:41] <Pici> gryllida: My second command said xfwm4, not xfce4
[15:41] <Oer> bihari, 4 gb or 8 gb, no problem, it will be expandable
[15:41] <bihari> so how much shud i give?
[15:41] <bihari> 1 gb for my virtual xp
[15:42] <KE1HA> bihari, I dont believe that's enough space. Normal installs take 3GB to 4GB of space on average, more when you add applicaionts.
[15:42] <gryllida> Pici: Oh, I see. Doing it now.
[15:42] <KE1HA> bihari, my /root partition w/VirtualBox is 6.4 GB and very few addiotnal apps.
[15:43] <wiill> janicko, you still there?
[15:43] <sacarlson> bihari: 1gb ram?  give it the default it is setup to give just what you need
[15:43] <afeijo> what is apparmor?
[15:43] <gryllida> Pici: I removed xfwm4 but the additional Terminal in the menu is still there. It is called "Terminal Emulator" and looks differently. How can I get a list of what I installed today?
[15:43] <KE1HA> bihari, 1Gb for Vbox, but you need 1GB for system too.
[15:44] <KE1HA> RAM that is, 1GB for each.
[15:44] <bihari> KE1HA, tell me what  to do
[15:44] <afeijo> apparently my mysql cant start due to that apparmour ?
[15:44] <ikonia> afeijo: that's unlikley
[15:44] <KE1HA> bihari, I dont think you can do it, 2Gb is not enough space.
[15:44] <afeijo> ikonia: Aug 13 11:41:09 galpao kernel: [ 2552.534494] type=1503 audit(1281710469.385:437): operation="open" pid=7927 parent=4251 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/"
[15:44] <Pici> gryllida: Take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log
[15:45] <sacarlson> afeijo: apparmour?  never heard of it
[15:45] <ikonia> afeijo: the default appamour profile will not stop mysql, so what did you do
[15:45] <The_Canuck> hello
[15:45] <afeijo> sacarlson: my first time too
[15:45] <Pelmen> !apparmor | afeijo
[15:45] <afeijo> ikonia: I upgrade ubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10
[15:45] <bihari> i have only 2 GB ram on my system in which i have installed  this ubuntu lucid and  now i wants to make virtaulbox and it asking for the space
[15:45] <bihari> now tell me guys what to do?
[15:45] <ikonia> afeijo: that won't enable a non-existant profile
[15:45] <Ileden> Hi! How can I make sudo not ask for a password when editing rfcomm binds with command "sudo rfcomm bind" and "sudo rfcomm release"? I've tried editing the /etc/sudoers file to set /usr/bin/rfcomm to NOPASSWD but that doesn't seem to work. Then again, I'm not very good with /etc/sudoers... Any ideas how to proceed?
[15:45] <ikonia> bihari: give it space
[15:45] <afeijo> I'm puzzled as well
[15:46] <sed`> Where can I find Sun/Oracle Java 6 in Ubuntu 10.04 amd64?
[15:46] <ikonia> afeijo: easy test, disable appamor
[15:46] <KE1HA> bihari, are you running Ubuntu from the LiveCD ?
[15:46] <bihari> no
[15:46] <afeijo> how?
[15:46] <The_Canuck> I am currently running a linux firewall via Pfsense or Smoothall. I would like to use iptables to protect my network instead.
[15:46] <Pici> sed`: Its in the partner repositories.
[15:46] <bihari> KE1HA,  i have installed it on my system
[15:46] <Pici> !partner | sed`
[15:46] <Kingsy> anyone in here use rainlender?
[15:47] <janicko> wiill: sorry had to leave for sec
[15:47] <Pici> bihari: YOU need to choose how much ram you'd like to dedicate to your virtualbox session when it is running.
[15:47] <ikonia> afeijo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875986
[15:47] <twobitsp1ite> don't you hate it when you look at your IRC terminal, see you have a highlight in one of your channels, only to find that it's scrolled off the lastlog?
[15:47] <KE1HA> bihari, in a terminal window, Applicaiotns >> Accessories >> Terminal type this ins and tell em what it says: df -hT
[15:47] <gryllida> Pici. Okay. How do I uninstall xfce?
[15:48] <bihari> yes pici
[15:48] <afeijo> I stoped apparmor, same error on mysql, damn
[15:48] <sacarlson> The_Canuck: well those programs probly just setup iptables what do you want iptables to do?
[15:48] <janicko> wiill: and that url get me on google
[15:48] <KE1HA> he needs at least 1GB for the system and 1Gb for the Vbox, bue he needs disk space too.
[15:49] <janicko> wiill: now are you here?
[15:49] <sed`> Pici: thanks!
[15:49] <bihari> Pici yes
[15:49] <Pici> gryllida: remove xubuntu-desktop
[15:49] <ikonia> bihari: what part are you not understanding, YOU need to decide how much resources to give
[15:49] <Pici> bihari: I can't make that decision for you.
[15:49] <bihari> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/haFk740w KE1HA
[15:50] <bihari> ikonia  yes
[15:50] <The_Canuck> sacarlson: I am basically not happy with pfsense and would like to learn how to do with using ip tables....
[15:50] <sacarlson> bihari: I told him use defaults it always works for me
[15:50] <The_Canuck> I am just wondering what distro would be the best for us
[15:50] <ikonia> bihari: ok, so what's the issue ?
[15:50] <The_Canuck> e
[15:50] <abhijit> !best  | The_Canuck
[15:50] <wiill> janicko, ok hi did you try navigating to http://173.194.37.104/
[15:51] <Pici> The_Canuck: You're only going to get "Ubuntu" answers here, ##linux for distro-agnostic answers.
[15:51] <KE1HA> bihari, Ok, yo have enough space. Make your Vbox Disk at least 10GB, and slect 1GB of RAM.
[15:51] <gryllida> Pici: I removed xfwm4 and xubuntu-desktop. Still two "Terminal" menuitems there.
[15:51] <bihari> issue is that it asking for memory <base memory size>
[15:51] <sacarlson> The_Canuck: well I'll talk private with you about it I use iptables.
[15:51] <janicko> wiill: i did and i got to google
[15:51] <Pici> gryllida: You can try removing xfce4-terminal
[15:51] <ikonia> bihari: so YOU have to tell it how much you want to give it
[15:51] <The_Canuck> i am not very knowledgable regarding linux and what is out there to complete this task... hence i am here asking for assistance or somm direction...
[15:52] <janicko> wiill: but that is on wired connection. wirelless router is problem...
[15:52] <bihari> yes
[15:52] <wiill> janicko, ok so it makes you go to google, and when you type in google.com it doesn't work
[15:52] <ikonia> bihari: the answer to my statment is not "yes"
[15:52] <abhijit> The_Canuck, see distrowatch.org and ask this question in ##linux about which distro to select
[15:52] <ikonia> bihari: I'm telling you - YOU have to think about how much ram to give it, and put it in that box
[15:52] <bihari> thats what i wants to say < i am just 18 and newbi and english is my second language> :( sory for that
[15:52] <wiill> janicko, oh you were supposed to do that on the wireless comp
[15:52] <Pici> bihari: Depending on how much ram you want to leave for your normal desktop taks, you need to decide that.
[15:52] <bihari> yes
[15:52] <ikonia> bihari: the answer is NOT yes
[15:53] <wiill> janicko, try the nslookup google.com on the wireless comp
[15:53] <ikonia> bihari: the answer is YOU work out how much ram YOU want to give your virtual machine, and put it in that box
[15:53] <KE1HA> bihari, wait before you do that, type this in the terminal: cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal  and post what that says.
[15:53] <gryllida> Pici: Great, it is gone. Now I see that it really is the xfce installation result, not anything else. But now I'm looking at two "Dictionaries" in "Office" menu and wondering whether there is a better nonmanual way to remove it all.
[15:53] <sacarlson> The_Canuck:  I have sent you a private message
[15:53] <janicko> wiill: i am doing it on the one what i have wireless. So in that case i would need to go offline and try it on that router
[15:53] <Pici> gryllida: You can try: sudo apt-get autoremove, but that may prompt to remove more things than you'd like
[15:54] <mooglenorph> Hi all. I just installed ubuntu netbook remix on my netbook, and I want to purge gnome, the login manager, and the entire netbook interface from it. Preferebly from aptitude. How do I do that?
[15:54] <murlidhar> is there any way to automount two of my partitions ? if so how can i make it to automount them ?
[15:54] <Monkey_Dust> murlidhar: mount them in fstab
[15:54] <rocket16> BibleTime ramains blank, and nothing is displayed. How to use it?
[15:54] <janicko> wiill: do you think that trying to hack wep key would help me?
[15:54] <Monkey_Dust> !fstab| murlidhar
[15:54] <bihari> KE1HA,  bihari@bihari-desktop:~$ cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal MemTotal:        2023340 kB
[15:54] <murlidhar> ty Monkey_Dust
[15:54] <sed`> i must admit, i like ubuntu's software center alot. (long-term debian user here).
[15:54] <xangua> and what desktop enviroment do you use now mooglenorph¿
[15:54] <wiill> janicko, is you access point protected
[15:54] <BluesKaj> mooglenorph, so what are you going use as a desktop /
[15:55] <mooglenorph> BluesKaj: xmonad and X11
[15:55] <wiill> janicko, by wep or wpa
[15:55] <KE1HA> bihari, thanks you. You need to use 1GB for your Vbox, so assign it 1GB or it will not run to well ok.
[15:55] <xangua> !purekde | mooglenorph
[15:56] <mooglenorph> ubottu: oh, cool. so I'll just stop after the "remove all" part. thanks very much!
[15:57] <Monkey_Dust> ubottu, I admire your intelligence
[15:57] <ukko> I'm having some issues when building a driver for a touchscreen display http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/21aLRPT4 can someone help? I think that is missing some package in my system
[15:57] <KE1HA> bihari, You can use this for an exanple of how to set up your first Vbox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/FirstVM
[15:57] <wiill> janicko, anyway, just go wireless only and try "nslookup google.com" then come back with the results
[15:57] <bihari> i saw that KE1HA But thats for linux
[15:57] <bihari> not for XP
[15:57] <KE1HA> bihari, ur welcome.
[15:57] <mooglenorph> don't get me wrong, I love UNR for the way the kernel supports my netbook hardware so well. I'm just not into the heavy GUI thing.
[15:59] <Phonex01> hello guys
[15:59] <Phonex01> nice to see you
[15:59] <saji89> !heelo
[15:59] <saji89> !hello
[15:59] <Monkey_Dust> !hi| Phonex01
[15:59] <abhijit> !hi | Phonex01
[15:59] <abhijit> :(
[15:59] <Phonex01> new proxy
[16:00] <Phonex01> www.echostech.com/writer/x/
[16:00] <ikonia> Phonex01: why are you posting that here
[16:00] <Jiriel> consider it spam
[16:00] <Phonex01> hi hi
[16:00] <ikonia> Phonex01: stop
[16:00] <Phonex01> its not spam
[16:00] <ikonia> Phonex01: why are you posting that here
[16:00] <Pici> Phonex01: Please don't advertise here, this is a support channel.
[16:00] <Phonex01> ok i will stop
[16:00] <Phonex01> ok ok
[16:00] <Phonex01> i'm sorry
[16:00] <ikonia> !topic | Phonex01
[16:00] <Phonex01> oh god people you are so hard !!!
[16:01] <[nrx]> no, you're just lame.
[16:01] <Jiriel> BAM
[16:01] <Jiriel> Yeah seriously, it is common sense to not advertise crap like that.
[16:01] <ikonia> Jiriel: dro pit
[16:01] <ikonia> drop
[16:01] <Phonex01> jiriel " consider it as spam " man do you hate me ????
[16:01] <ikonia> Phonex01: please drop it
[16:01] <Phonex01> i dont even know you
[16:01] <syn-ack> Good morning kids.
[16:01] <Jiriel> hiya syn-ack
[16:01] <Jiriel> Man do I hate you syn-ack :P
[16:02] <Jiriel> Not *you* in particular, just.. I have seen syn ack too many times lol
[16:02] <zopiac> For absolutely NO REASON at ALL, ubuntu decided to nuke my sound
[16:02] <Phonex01> oh really experiance man
[16:02] <[nrx]> Ubuntu = female.
[16:02] <Phonex01> i dont know that
[16:02] <syn-ack> Jiriel, I'm sorry?
[16:02] <Jiriel> "syn ack" logs..
[16:02] <saji89> !offtopic
[16:03] <Phonex01> who is the admi here ?
[16:03] <Phonex01> admin ?
[16:03] <ikonia> Phonex01: what do you want ?
[16:03] <Phonex01> oh you are the admin ?
[16:03] <ikonia> Phonex01: what do you want, please.
[16:03] <saji89> !ops | Phonex01
[16:03] <zopiac> Every few hours ubuntu decides its going to destroy my installation in one way or another
[16:03] <ikonia> saji89: ok, I'm here
[16:03] <Pici> saji89: No need for that.
[16:04] <Phonex01> why dont we open arabic chaneel ?
[16:04] <maco> Phonex01: there is one
[16:04] <ikonia> Phonex01: there is one
[16:04] <Pici> !sa | Phonex01
[16:04] <janicko> so i wrote down nslookup google.com at i got back ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[16:04] <janicko> Will
[16:04] <janicko> Will: are you here?
[16:04] <wiill> janicko, yeah
[16:05] <wiill> janicko, sorry
[16:05] <zopiac> "maybe ill torch your login screen" "how about I obliterate your sound" "now I will make it so you cant boot" "now im going to destroy your sound again!"
[16:05] <saji89> ikonia, Oh ok... :)
[16:05] <wiill> janicko, so how does it look
[16:05] <janicko> wiill:so i wrote down nslookup google.com at i got back ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[16:05] <bihari> KE1HA,  U THERE check this http://img404.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1ij.png/
[16:05] <zopiac> ive had it with ubuntu! there are too many horrid, horrid problems that arise for no f***ing reason! i dont know how I have dealt with it on and off for four years
[16:06] <owd95> i installed xubuntu on my fuji siemeans laptop and the audio works great when i use the laptop speakers but when i plug in my big speakers it's become quite, i had even tried with my headset and checked the settings in alsamixer.... heeeelp!
[16:06] <KE1HA> bihari, yes, you need to make that 1000.
[16:06] <bihari> i did 1024
[16:06] <KE1HA> rr good to go.
[16:06] <janicko> wiill: and for the other question what you gave i have no wep or wpa and have no idea how to get it
[16:07] <Pici> bihari: If you have any further Virtualbox questions, please direct them to #vbox, they will be able to help you faster than we can.
[16:07] <wiill> janicko, ok now try doing an "ifconfig -a" right now
[16:07] <majdekalel_> who kicked me out ?
[16:07] <monkeystador> owd95: try pulseaudio volume control
[16:07] <wiill> janicko, you don't have to be only on wifi
[16:07] <janicko> wiill: got it
[16:07] <majdekalel_> hi hi people are you here for help
[16:08] <majdekalel_> i have been kicked out
[16:08] <owd95> monkeystador: how do i that?
[16:08] <majdekalel_> فعلا انك قليلين حيى
[16:08] <monkeystador> install it through synaptic.
[16:08] <[nrx]> oh ffs.
[16:08] <majdekalel_> ولك انت واياه
[16:08] <Pici> !sa | majdekalel_
[16:08] <[nrx]> majdekalel_, please stop that.
[16:08] <majdekalel_> مين طردني
[16:08] <Pici> majdekalel_: #ubuntu is english only.
[16:08] <majdekalel_> بحكي معكو هندي
[16:09] <Calinou> omg
[16:09] <[nrx]> in-Stereo kick there.
[16:09] <Kurlon> I didn't even know my terminal could display those characters.
[16:09] <bihari> KE1HA,  and for boot hard disk ?
[16:09] <KE1HA> bihari, you mean ISO image ?
[16:09] <Phonex01> hi pici i was talking with someone at private
[16:10] <Phonex01> why you kicked me out ???
[16:10] <bihari> wait let me give you screen shot
[16:10] <KE1HA> ok
[16:10] <Pici> 11:08:40 <?monkeystador> install it through synaptic.
[16:10] <Pici> 11:08:42 <[nrx]> oh ffs.
[16:10] <Pici> 11:08:45 <?majdekalel_> ولك انت واياه
[16:10] <Pici> 11:08:48 <Pici> !sa | majdekalel_
[16:10] <Pici> 11:08:49 <ubottu> majdekalel_: For the Saudi Arabia team : /join #ubuntu-sa : للانظمام الى قناة الفريق السعودي - For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية
[16:10] <FloodBot2> Pici: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <janicko> wiill: do you want to pastebin it?
[16:10] <wiill> janicko, do you have a wlan section
[16:11] <Phonex01> hi hi
[16:11] <Phonex01> dont kick me out
[16:11] <[nrx]> >:|
[16:11] <Phonex01> why the fuck you do this !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:11] <Pici> Phonex01: Please join #ubuntu-ops
[16:11] <wiill> janicko, also I;m sorry but i have to leave
[16:11] <Black_Phantom> hey all, anybody know how to print an image on ubuntu in a way that it will cover all the A4 paper ?
[16:11] <janicko> wiill: no, there is not wlan section
[16:11] <rtK> salut comment fait on pour améliorer la quélité de la police sous KDE ?
[16:11] <wiill> janicko, it's a shame i couldn't solve you problem on time
[16:11] <oCean_> !fr | rtK
[16:11] <rtK> qualité*
[16:11] <Calinou> rtK: #ubuntu-fr
[16:11] <[nrx]> Black_Phantom, just remove the margins, no?
[16:12] <Pici> Sorry for the spam folks.
[16:13] <Black_Phantom> [nrx] I removed the margins, but I still cant see the image covering the whole paper
[16:13] <Black_Phantom> its covering only half
[16:13] <Calinou> Pici: how many langages know ubottu ?
[16:13] <janicko> is there anybody who would help me to  get my wireless router working? It saing it is connected but it wont  be able to get on internet
[16:13] <Pici> Calinou: Alot, search yourself with http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[16:13] <Calinou> ok
[16:14] <bihari> KE1HA,  CHECK THIS http://img101.imageshack.us/i/screensho.png/
[16:14] <sacarlson> janicko: I guess I'll take a wack at it
[16:14] <janicko> sacarlson: thx mate. so what should i do?
[16:15] <sacarlson> I think I'll take you private
[16:15] <ePirat> what is grub rescue ?
[16:15] <KE1HA> bihari, I use fixed 10GB for mine. But I mostly do ISO testing and things like that.
[16:15] <janicko> sacarlson: could it be problem that i have no wireless security?
[16:15] <bihari> so what i do ?
[16:15] <bihari> 5 GB ?
[16:15] <Oer> Calinou, ubuntu 8.,04 150+ languages and i stopped counting
[16:15] <KE1HA> 10G fixed
[16:15] <Calinou> omfg!
[16:16] <bihari> SHUD I CREAT NEW? OR EXISTIN ?
[16:16] <KE1HA> bihari, that gives you lots of room to add things without worrying.
[16:16] <KE1HA> New
[16:16] <bihari> dynamically?
[16:17] <mernilio> One thing i have never been able to do, is to use the build-in network-card and soundcard. Why is that? Is it because no drivers exist for linux? I havent put so much thought in it, because i have used separat sound and network cards
[16:17] <bihari> or fixed size?
[16:17] <KE1HA> Then select a location for it like /home//bihari/virtual_machines
[16:17] <oCean_> bihari: are you aware that this is not virtualbox help channel?
[16:17] <Cryp71c> Within the past couple of weeks my numpad (even when numlock is on) no longer puts in numbers, but ALWAYS moves the mouse cursor...any idea how to turn this off?
[16:17] <erUSUL> mernilio: doubt it; integrated sound is either hda or ac97 both supported. and linux has support for many nic's
[16:18] <bihari> oki brb
[16:18] <Oer> Cryp71c, yes, goto system > keyboard, last tab > use numpad as mousepointer
[16:18] <oom8ail> hello
[16:19] <TillDawg> hello to all
[16:19] <oom8ail> anyone experiencing any problems with crypt root since latest update of lts 10.04?
[16:19] <Oer> Cryp71c, sorry, 4th tab
[16:19] <mernilio> erUSUL: maybe so.. i know linux knows about my integrated soundcard tho. It's no big deal tho.
[16:19] <Cryp71c> Oer, thanks!
[16:19] <mernilio> I't so booring when "it just works" (tm) ;-)
[16:20] <nytek_> I'm having a problem with my brightness and etc keys on my compaq presario cq62 laptop, I can't adjust brightness levels, nor sound from keyboard. Any ideas?
[16:21] <TillDawg> <<<<<< has made the switch to ubuntu and loves it ...like to get rid of windows for god
[16:21] <Friktion> hey somone that has some experience with valgrind and kdevelop ?
[16:21] <Friktion> TillDawg: same here =)
[16:22] <oom8ail> after the recent update I found myself in the busybox shell because my crypted root lvm partition could not be mounted. when i mount the cryptroot by hand in the initramfs shell, everything works though. can anyone guide me how to debug this issue? its quite annoying that there is no password question during start...
[16:23] <TillDawg> got it running on a 4 year old toshiba and it faster then it ever was with xp
[16:25] <littlepenguin> ?
[16:25] <littlepenguin> ok so irc works...why everybody is silent?
[16:26] <monkeystador> can someone help me on deciphering the dbus messages? i like to know which program send the notification message action.
[16:26] <NinjaNumberNine> Hi guys, does anyone know how to access the system files in a Live CD environment? (Kubuntu 10.04, but the distro doesn't matter)
[16:26] <littlepenguin> NinjaNumberNine, you cannot change data on a cd
[16:27] <NinjaNumberNine> not to change, it, just to copy from it.
[16:27] <littlepenguin> ok cd is mounted?
[16:27] <NinjaNumberNine> i need the original xorg.conf. yes the cd is mounted.
[16:27] <amr_> using ubuntu 10.04 fresh install with all updates ... after installing chromium .. whenever i go to www.gmail.com my cpu peak to 100% until after 30 seconds my browser shows me aw. snap!!! please help ... this issue is also in google chrome but not firefox ???
[16:28] <TillDawg> is irssi worth messing with  ?
[16:28] <NinjaNumberNine> littlepenguin, i just wansn'
[16:28] <io> TillDawg: Yes.
[16:28] <NinjaNumberNine> 't sure where on the disc they are
[16:28] <littlepenguin> ninja why not just create a new one?make backup of old file and delete xorg.conf
[16:28] <littlepenguin> NinjaNumberNine, after this do : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:28] <TillDawg> hmmm looks confusing as hell
[16:29] <kavurt> pacha
[16:29] <littlepenguin> normally xorg.conf is under /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:29] <io> TillDawg: It is possibly the least confusing IRC client being CLI.
[16:30] <savid> Does anyone know of an app that will monitor my windows and track the amount of time different windows are focused?
[16:31] <TillDawg> io really ? ok i must reread and play with more
[16:31] <oom8ail> AB
[16:31] <gio_gt> TillDawg: if you like CLI IRC clients, I suggest you give weechat a shot, too
[16:31] <TillDawg> i'm really starting to like using the terminal
[16:31] <io> TillDawg: It is useful for running within a screen, so that you can attach/detach from wherever you are.
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> Weechat is very nice
[16:32] <enav> join / #jquery
[16:32] <TillDawg> weechat?
[16:32] <TillDawg> still trying to get xchat down
[16:33] <MTMz> I have such a headache!
[16:33] <jc>  hello! I'm looking for a  little help with 10.4 ltsp specifiacally tftp boot upgraded from 9 to 10 and now my clients won't boot they get their ip but fail with sometype of permissions  this is for a grade school in HSV AL no paycheck just trying to help the school
[16:33] <KE1HA> the whole dpkg-reconfigure is really not doing anything, a better way would be: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/477491/
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> xchats rather straightforward. :)
[16:34] <gio_gt> TillDawg: yes. If you are new to CLI applications, weechat has got more nice defaults, imho. irssi is a lot configurable, but before you can have a nicklist you have to install plugin and configure them. Weechat has got a nicklist by default and it is usable just as it is, after installation
[16:34] <NinjaNumberNine> littlepenguin: i'm afraid i've been doing that all morning, with small variations and/or in exact copy. It always restarts into console tty and when i run startx, it says something about there being no screens found, (set up for dual screens with nvidia geforce 7xxx (i think it's 7300 to be exact) card and has been working well for several weeks. I have tried deleting, then reconfiguring, but to no avail... not to mention, the dpkg-reconfigure -p high
[16:34] <NinjaNumberNine>  xserver-xorg just blinks you to a new line when you hit enter, no sign of action, (unless it's just really fast, and does it in the background) i really appreciate your trying by the way- just tired of pulling out my hair, thats all. ;)
[16:34] <amr_> using ubuntu 10.04 fresh install with all updates ... after installing chromium .. whenever i go to www.gmail.com my cpu peak to 100% until after 30 seconds my browser shows me aw. snap!!! please help ... this issue is also in google chrome but not firefox ???
[16:34] <littlepenguin> jc what is the error exactly?
[16:34] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[16:34] <ipc> Got lag?
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> TillDawg:  i find WeeChat more configurable/flexible then irssi. :) but both irssi and weechat will take a little bit of reading and learning
[16:34] <NinjaNumberNine> stanley_robertso: hi
[16:34]  * philinux +1 for xchat
[16:35] <jc> it is the forbidden directory and the access violation
[16:35] <littlepenguin> NinjaNumberNine, did you install nvidia driver
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> NinjaNumberNine: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[16:35] <NinjaNumberNine> yes, and i've uninstalled/installed 4 times so far.
[16:35] <NinjaNumberNine> thanks parsnip, i'm reading that..
[16:36] <gio_gt> Dr_Willis: BTW, have you noticed that in the default ubuntu repos there is only weechat version 3.0, but 3.3 is already out?
[16:36] <webmactep> hi
[16:36] <TillDawg> Dr_Willis:   TY i will check it out ...been doing alot of reading lately it remembering what is hard lol
[16:36] <littlepenguin> NinjaNumberNine, try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> gio_gt:  thats normal for UBUNTU
[16:37] <NinjaNumberNine> have done...
[16:37] <NinjaNumberNine> ;)
[16:37] <gio_gt> Dr_Willis: some people here yesterday suggested me to install the new version with ppa, but I just found a daily updated repo, and I don't want svn snapshots
[16:37] <littlepenguin> jc check who has permission on folders for clients
[16:37] <NinjaNumberNine> the problem seems to be getting the combination right.
[16:37] <gio_gt> Dr_Willis: so I guess I can just learn to make packages and then make my own updated weechat package
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> gio_gt:  yep. Or use source. Its not too hard to compile from source.
[16:38] <gio_gt> Dr_Willis: no, it's not, but I don't like to "make install"
[16:38] <NinjaNumberNine> ActionParsnip, i'm afraid this isn't my problem... :) (yipes, what am i doing saying i'm afraid i don't have a PROBLEM!!)
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> gio_gt:  and making 'packages' is that much better? :)
[16:40] <littlepenguin> NinjaNumberNine, maybe you have the wrong drivers..you could try to use envy for graficsdriver installation
[16:40] <gio_gt> Dr_Willis: easier to remove it and update it
[16:40] <NinjaNumberNine> littlepenguin: at this point i'd be glad to get back to even the vesa drivers and work from there... i cannot use envyNG in tty.
[16:40] <gio_gt> Dr_Willis: in my humble opinion, eh
[16:40] <littlepenguin> envy has a cli
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> envy is still around?
[16:41] <NinjaNumberNine> littlepenguin: btw i wonder if there's anything to the new nouveau drivers ubuntu made for the nvidia cards?
[16:41] <bazhang> !find envyng
[16:41] <Calinou> "littlepenguin: btw i wonder if there's anything to the new nouveau drivers ubuntu made for the nvidia cards?" T_T
[16:41] <Calinou> "nouveau" shouldn't be in that sentence
[16:42] <NinjaNumberNine> littlepenguin: it does? i hadn't known, mind telling be how to access it?
[16:42] <Calinou> !find alsa-utils
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> the nvidia drivers install are supposed to blacklist teh nouveau drivers.  I cant even get the mouveau drivers working very well on my systems. I have to install the nvidia drivers to get a console.
[16:42] <Calinou> oho
[16:42] <gio_gt> I remember about a couple of years ago, there was a bot message about envy saying that if you use envy, you would envy the people that didn't use it! or something like that... lol
[16:42] <littlepenguin> NinjaNumberNine,  sudo envy
[16:43] <i_chase_bunnies> I'm having troubles with my intel wireless 5100 agn card. My connection will perform fine at first, but after a period of time (seemingly random) I just stop receive packets. (maybe ~500bytes/s at most). I'm running 10.04, any ideas?
[16:43] <KE1HA> Dr_Willis, same here, but not that 173 driver, that one tanks on all my NV cards.
[16:43] <NinjaNumberNine> trouble is I'll have to reboot into my broken system, losing the chat... or can this indeed be done from the LiveCd i'
[16:43] <NinjaNumberNine> 'm in now?
[16:43] <littlepenguin> NinjaNumberNine, ok sry did not know
[16:43] <littlepenguin> envy is not more supported
[16:43] <NinjaNumberNine> ah, too bad.
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> NinjaNumberNine:  You can install irssi or weechat so you can get to IRC from the console if needed
[16:44] <NinjaNumberNine> i understand... i just like a gui while i can have it.
[16:44] <NinjaNumberNine> here's the driver project i mentioned:
[16:45] <NinjaNumberNine> oh, drat, paste don't work
[16:45] <NinjaNumberNine> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[16:46] <littlepenguin> yes NinjaNumberNine i heard of this ..so could you first put lspci in and tell which card you have exactly?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> i_chase_bunnies: when it drops, run: dmesg | tail    it will give clues
[16:46] <janicko> so that didn't help me with my wireless router
[16:47] <NinjaNumberNine> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300  a1)
[16:47] <techwizrd> I'm having a little bit of trouble with my wacom tablet. The table is small, but unlike most tables I've used, when I start to draw anywhere on the tablet, it jumps to that place on my screen and then draws from that point.
[16:48] <techwizrd> Anyone understand what I'm saying?
[16:48] <lunavorax> Hi everybody
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> techwizrd: yep, i understand it
[16:48] <janicko> help! I lost the guy whou tryed to help me with my wireless router
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> techwizrd: what model is it?
[16:49] <lunavorax> Does anyone else is having troubles with making a video call w/ Empathy/Pidgin uding the Gtalk protocol or is it just me ?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> techwizrd: wacom make a wide range
[16:49] <NinjaNumberNine> janicko: he might be back right away, just a guess though
[16:49] <techwizrd> ActionParsnip: Bamboo Pen. I just installed thed linuxwacom driver from the linuxwacom sourceforge site.
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> techwizrd: then I'd report a bug
[16:49] <NinjaNumberNine> janicko: i often have accidentally shut down my irc client
[16:50] <techwizrd> ActionParsnip: It's like the device wants the tablet to map to my screen.
[16:50] <sacarlson> janicko what happend
[16:50] <littlepenguin> NinjaNumberNine, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/NouveauEvaluation this should help..maybee...
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> techwizrd: may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[16:51] <littlepenguin> NinjaNumberNine, your card is under supported cards listed
[16:51] <lunavorax> Nobody can help with my video call problem?
[16:51] <NinjaNumberNine> littlepenguin: that's encouraging, reading the page now
[16:51] <sacarlson> janicko: back to private chat
[16:51] <ipc> How come this network was attcked with bots yesterday?
[16:52] <jc> can you tell me the directory and file
[16:52] <Oer> ipc there was no attack, it was a disconnection between 2 servers.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> jc: directory and file of what?
[16:53] <ipc> ;,ao
[16:53] <ipc> that was funny
[16:53] <xangua> lunavorax: haven't really tried that feature, you can ask in #pidgin for...well pidgin help
[16:53] <littlepenguin> yessss.-..my weekend starts in 6 minutes...
[16:55] <NinjaNumberNine> littlepenguin: lol
[16:55] <littlepenguin> 4 :D
[16:56] <NinjaNumberNine> littlepenguin: me too, finally someone from my own timezone!!
[16:56]  * NinjaNumberNine does happy dance
[16:57] <littlepenguin> :D
[16:58] <Quantum_Ion> seems as though is the IRC server doesn't like your nickname for some reason it will boot you
[16:58] <lunavorax> oh sure xangua
[16:59] <utilitytrack> hello
[17:00] <utilitytrack> please say me
[17:00] <Oer> !hi | utilitytrack
[17:00] <utilitytrack> somebody experienced problems with ALi m5602 webcam?
[17:01] <nimbiotics> Hi guys. I was using twin view wit my nvidia card and now I cannot open the Monitors utility. I get The following message when I try "Could not get screen information. RANDR extension is not present.". What can I do?? TIA!
[17:01] <littlepenguin> wweeeeeekkkkend...bye bye
[17:01] <NinjaNumberNine> bye littlepenguin, thanks!
[17:02] <utilitytrack> @nimbiotics try run nvidia-settings
[17:02] <CubJohn> hey, sometimes my screen randomly turns off and it won't come back on until I put the computer into sleep mode and wake it up
[17:02] <CubJohn> running lucid
[17:03] <ipc> Do you think its professional at all for people to see netsplits?
[17:03] <nimbiotics> utilitytrack: Thanks a bunch, that worked!
[17:03] <bazhang> !ot | ipc
[17:04] <ipc> not really
[17:04] <utilitytrack> @ nimbiotics yes!! I very glad!
[17:04] <bazhang> ipc, that has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[17:04] <ipc> It has to do with everything
[17:04] <Calinou> !guidelines
[17:04] <sipior> ipc: see if you can get a refund from the freenode folks.
[17:04] <florentind> hy all
[17:04] <bazhang> ipc, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[17:05] <ipc> so unprofessional
[17:05] <florentind> help!
[17:05] <sipior> ipc: bye now.
[17:05] <CubJohn> Sometimes, the display goes very dark and I can just barely see the contents of the screen, but there is absolutely no illumination involved.
[17:06] <utilitytrack> @CubJohn What PC/laptop?
[17:06] <ipc> the rooms you tell people to goto are +m
[17:06] <CubJohn> Inspiron 1525
[17:06] <ipc> ,,I,,
[17:06] <CubJohn> laptop
[17:06] <Alias01> KE1HA:i installed ubuntu into a usb stick but it's not bootable, i need to install GRUB? or what should i do
[17:06] <bazhang> ipc, please stop
[17:06] <Alias01> sorry for the speak :X
[17:06] <utilitytrack> @CubJohn What videocard/drivers?
[17:07] <lunavorax> #pidgin is like totally unreactive
[17:07] <florentind> can someone help me?
[17:07] <utilitytrack> somebody experienced problems with ALi m5602 webcam?
[17:07] <florentind> prv me!
[17:07] <vocx> Anybody has a scanner plugged in and ready to use? I'd like to see your "lsmod" output to see if I'm missing a kernel module, so I can try to load it. My scanner is a Canon CanoScan LiDE 100; I think I've read it doesn't work with Linux; still trying though.
[17:07] <CubJohn> I um, how do I find out my videocard/drivers?
[17:08] <utilitytrack> @vocx look drivers on official cite
[17:08] <utilitytrack> site
[17:08] <florentind> utilitytrack?
[17:08] <arthur_> how do i get a service to start at boot, i want motion to run with out logging in,
[17:08] <florentind> help me or not?
[17:08] <florentind> plssss
[17:08] <utilitytrack> Yes?
[17:09] <sacarlson> Alias01: so that link Ke1ha gave you didn't work?  it looked good I was going to try it.
[17:09] <florentind> prv me!
[17:09] <bazhang> florentind, ask here
[17:09] <florentind> ok
[17:09] <vocx> utilitytrack, If you have a working scanner it would help me to see "lsmod", nevertheless
[17:09] <arthur_> how do i get a service to start at boot, i want motion to run with out logging in,
[17:09] <florentind> so...today...i've copied ubuntu 10.4 i think..and now i'm trying to get connected on net...
[17:10] <florentind> i've read something but i dont get it!
[17:10] <utilitytrack> @vocx Why you need lsmod?
[17:10] <florentind> i specify that i dont have a cd-rw so i've copied ubuntu on a mp3 player..i've formatted
[17:10] <MichRT> I have a problem: I was messing with the top bar, and i antecedently removed the status notification dohicky, and when i added it again, my wifi meter ended up in the middle of the bar. Help?
[17:10] <gtm_> utilitytrack: hi, i'm titomax82 :)... can we pvt?
[17:11] <arthur_> how do i get a service to start at boot, i want motion to run with out logging in,
[17:11] <florentind> so...bazhang ????
[17:11] <sacarlson> arthur_:  you can do it with cron  or other ways but I like cron
[17:11] <Potato_> hi
[17:11] <MichRT> Hello Potato_
[17:11] <Potato_> :D
[17:11] <Potato_> So is anyone not running ubuntu?
[17:11] <vocx> utilitytrack, perhaps some of the kernel modules is not loading properly, this happened to me before, My USB drives were not recognized, and it turned out the "usb_storage" was not loaded. After loading it and writing it to /etc/modules, it works okay.
[17:11] <SinnerSaved> ies potato
[17:12]  * Potato_ loves Xubuntu
[17:12] <SinnerSaved> so and i
[17:12] <sacarlson> arthur_:  heres a link that looks like what I would do http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20041105070509783
[17:12] <rockhopper> is there a speparate channel for ubuntu netbook version?
[17:12] <SinnerSaved> potato..pls help me
[17:12] <Potato_> ok
[17:12] <SinnerSaved> can...you enter into my pc?
[17:12] <Licuadora> Anyone knows a good video editor?
[17:12] <Potato_> no
[17:12] <Potato_> i cant
[17:12] <rockhopper> hi, is there a speparate channel for ubuntu netbook version?
[17:12] <SinnerSaved> so..then?
[17:12] <Potato_> What are you trying to get me to do/
[17:13] <Licuadora> I am using OpenShot video editor, but it doesent let me add text
[17:13] <sipior> rockhopper: don't believe so, but i might be mistaken. you've an ubuntu question?
[17:13] <SinnerSaved> potato? listen...how do i connect to internet through the ubuntu?
[17:13] <Calinou>  /join #ubuntu-netbook
[17:13] <amr_> does any one here notices that ppa:c-korn/vlc is not working on ubuntu 10.04 ?????????
[17:13] <Calinou> maybe
[17:13] <SinnerSaved> i cant make the connection
[17:13] <rockhopper> ok
[17:13] <sipior> i stand corrected. thanks, Calinou.
[17:13] <Potato_> It should automatically connect
[17:13] <bazhang> Calinou, there is no such channel
[17:14] <SinnerSaved> ohhh...jesus...let it be!
[17:14] <rockhopper> Calinou, no such channel
[17:14] <CubJohn> "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)"
[17:14] <SinnerSaved> on logged now on ubuntu
[17:14] <CubJohn> I think that's the graphics card I'm using
[17:14] <Potato_> If you are using wireless, you need to plug in ethernet port and goto hardware drivers in the panel and enable wireless drivers.
[17:14] <sipior> i guess i stand uncorrected again.
[17:14] <rockhopper> sipior, Yeah, i want to know how to configure the cpu scalling on my netbook..
[17:14] <Oer> amr_, ppa:c-korn/vlc is out of date, remove it, and use synaptic to install vlc
[17:14] <rockhopper> I couldn't find howto on google
[17:14] <Potato_> Then restart computer with the ethernet unplugged.
[17:14] <CubJohn> utilitytrack?
[17:14] <SinnerSaved> i have...a fiberlink connection and a usb card
[17:14] <Potato_> If you are using wireless, you need to plug in ethernet port and goto hardware drivers in the panel and enable wireless drivers.
[17:14] <Potato_> Then restart computer with the ethernet unplugged.
[17:14] <Silentx> Hey please help me with the wireless adpater Alfa :( .. it is connecting to the network but I can browse using it .. I've searched everywhere ..
[17:15] <Potato_> Oh?
[17:15] <Potato_> thats different
[17:15] <rockhopper> Silentx, whats the problem if you can connect to network and browse?
[17:15] <Potato_> is it considered Broadband? mobile broadband?
[17:15] <rockhopper> sorry for my poor english
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Silentx: if you manually add DNS servers, does it work?
[17:15] <sipior> rockhopper: i'm afraid i'm not terribly familiar with ubuntu netbook interface. is there not a cpu scaling applet available?
[17:16] <MichRT> I have a problem: I was messing with the top bar, and i antecedently removed the status notification dohicky, and when i added it again, my wifi meter ended up in the middle of the bar. Help?
[17:16] <rockhopper> uhm... I've never used a netbook before sipior.. So i thought of knowing how to configure it..
[17:16] <Silentx> rockhopper, I cant browse it works just for the first 10 sec
[17:16] <Potato_> Ubuntu netbook edition is only ubuntu with the netbook desktop.
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Silentx: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf     delete ALL text and add these 2 lines: nameserver 8.8.8.8     nameserver 8.8.4.4
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> !panelfix
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> !fixpanel
[17:16] <rockhopper> coz the battery;s rated for 8 hours on wifi..
[17:17] <Monkey_Dust> MichRT: right click on it > move
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> !resetpanel | MichRT
[17:17] <Silentx> ActionParsnip, I'm not on ubuntu now as I cant reach the internet ..
[17:17] <Silentx> I'll do it after restart
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Silentx: you dont need it, you are editting local files
[17:17] <rockhopper> and I've seen a review, says they got 6.55 hrs out of it.. but its only getting me 5 hours of backup
[17:17] <rockhopper> *giving
[17:17] <vocx> Anybody has a scanner plugged in and ready to use? I'd like to see your "lsmod" output to see if I'm missing a kernel module, so I can try to load it. My scanner is a Canon CanoScan LiDE 100; I think I've read it doesn't work with Linux; still trying though.
[17:18] <Silentx> ActionParsnip, I mean if you want me to do something tell me everything because I'll go to resart
[17:18] <Silentx> restart *
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> vocx: canon support is a lot lacking in Linux
[17:18] <insulina> hello, I update ubunto and now I have a compilation problem error: stddef.h: No such file or directory , what can I do ?
[17:18] <Potato_> There is support for lexmark right?
[17:18] <SinnerSaved> potato...yeah broadband
[17:18] <sacarlson> Silentx: I just tried the package wicd to setup my wifi it works very good for me.
[17:18] <hybr1der> are touchscreen drivers universal?
[17:18] <Potato_> Ok
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Silentx: I have told you all you need to do. Edit the file then try the web. You will benefit from connecting with a wired connection and get fully upidated
[17:18] <Potato_> Idk what version you are on SinnerSaved
[17:18] <SinnerSaved> come on..enter into my pc...and solve the problem
[17:19] <vocx> ActionParsnip, that's what I've been reading. I told this guy before we bought this "buy the HP one"... but not, he preferred the slightly less expensive Canon. I knew this was happening...
[17:19] <SinnerSaved> idk?
[17:19] <Silentx> I've no wired connecting but I'll try to go out and be closer to the AP ..
[17:19] <sipior> rockhopper: have a look here, at point 5 in particular: http://maketecheasier.com/13-ways-to-customize-ubuntu-netbook-remix-for-better-usability/2010/02/07
[17:19] <Silentx> just wait brb ..
[17:19] <Potato_> I cant do that sinnersaved.
[17:19] <SinnerSaved> ok
[17:19] <Potato_> But i can tell you how to fix it
[17:19] <SinnerSaved> idk? what is it?
[17:19] <SinnerSaved> ok
[17:19] <SinnerSaved> so lets do it fast?
[17:19] <Potato_> Maybe under the connection icon
[17:19] <SinnerSaved> i dont have time
[17:19] <sipior> rockhopper: and point #13.
[17:19] <FloodBot2> SinnerSaved: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> vocx: yep, buy HP, they love Linux. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1033181
[17:19] <Potato_> click broadband
[17:19] <MichRT> THANK YOU ubottu!
[17:19] <Potato_> or something
[17:20] <gio_gt> what does a * mean in ls -l, please? for example: -rwxrwxr-x  1 user group   76 2010-08-13 18:18 eclipse*
[17:20] <SinnerSaved> and
[17:20] <arthur_> it looks like it wasnts to get saved to /tmp/crontab.xlPjdz/crontab  , is that right?
[17:20] <gigglefight> hello! Ubuntu Studio inquiries.
[17:20] <Potato_> maybe then you can set it up
[17:20] <Potato_> ive used mobile broadband using that with my cell phone.
[17:20] <SinnerSaved> where to click broad band?>
[17:20] <rockhopper> sipior, ty for the link..
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> gio_gt: means the owner and group have full access and all other users only have read and execute
[17:20] <SinnerSaved> is a fiberlink broadband
[17:20] <SinnerSaved> not a mobile
[17:20] <Potato_> It might only be available in ubuntu netbook edition
[17:20] <Potato_> Well idk
[17:20] <rockhopper> I didn;t come across it!
[17:20] <Potato_> I dont know much about that.
[17:21] <gio_gt> ActionParsnip: I see, thanks a lot
[17:21] <SinnerSaved> what is IDK ?????????????????????????????
[17:21] <Potato_> Sorry bro :(
[17:21] <sipior> SinnerSaved: ironically, "i don't know".
[17:21] <SinnerSaved> :))))))
[17:21] <IdleOne> SinnerSaved: IDK is abbreviation for I Don't Know
[17:21] <SinnerSaved> ok
[17:21] <gigglefight> How to install Ubuntu Studio? from Lucid Lynx? I'm on Ubuntu right now.
[17:21]  * Potato_ Crys in apology to SinnerSaved
[17:22] <bazhang> gigglefight, ubuntustudio-desktop?
[17:22] <SinnerSaved> so..
[17:22] <SinnerSaved> how to start?
[17:22] <Potato_> Maybe you can use another type of connection?
[17:22] <gigglefight> @bazhang - yes
[17:22] <SinnerSaved> apliction..or sistem?
[17:22] <bazhang> SinnerSaved, dont use the enter key so much
[17:22] <Potato_> Maybe you can use another type of connection?
[17:23] <Potato_> If you are using wireless, you need to plug in ethernet port and goto hardware drivers in the panel and enable wireless drivers.
[17:23] <gigglefight> background - I'm using Blackmagic Design's Intensity pro capture card. according to the forums, it's suggested to use ubuntu studio.
[17:23] <Potato_> Do that
[17:23] <SinnerSaved> no...wireless potato
[17:23] <Potato_> And then you should have internet
[17:23] <Potato_> What kind of computer?
[17:23] <SinnerSaved> is thrugh the cable link
[17:23] <bazhang> gigglefight, the package name is ubuntustudio-desktop
[17:23] <gigglefight> thanks!
[17:23] <milen8204> how to share LAN trought WI-fi ?
[17:24] <milen8204> please help
[17:24] <Potato_> Im confused. Im not an idiot but i dont know.
[17:24] <unclemantis> is anyone else having trouble with these guys?  58.218.204.110
[17:24] <ionine_> ??DCC SEND "ff???f?????????????????????????????????????????????????????" 0 0 0
[17:24] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[17:24] <unclemantis> [Fri Aug 13 12:57:42 2010] [error] [client 58.218.204.110] script '/var/www/judge.php' not found or unable to stat
[17:24] <hybr1der> are touchscreen drivers unique? or are they like mice and keyboard?
[17:25] <tstillery> looks like weechat is going to take some time to learn
[17:25] <IdleOne> hybr1der: I would guess there are genric drivers but probable like most other devices each manufacturer has there own drivers
[17:25] <SinnerSaved> is a intel p4 2,8 ghz netkork realtek rtl8139
[17:25] <mechbangirc> so i need libjpeg-turbo for zoneminder, my only concern is about libjpeg and libjpeg-turbo api compatibility. can anyone tell me about compatibility between libjpeg-8.0 and libjpeg-turbo-svn-225?
[17:25] <Potato_> SinnerSaved: Use ethernet cord for internet
[17:25] <sacarlson> milen8204: doesn't your access point do that for you?
[17:26] <SinnerSaved> potato?  is a intel p4 2,8 ghz netkork realtek rtl8139
[17:26] <hybr1der> IdleOne: ok thx
[17:26] <gio_gt> tstillery: I think it is worth learning, though
[17:27] <milen8204> sacarlson, I have a laptop whit ubuntu and PC whit windiws
[17:27] <ubuntushop> to get wireless working you use Windows Wireless Drivers put your cd in drive and look for the inf that fits your driver  , , ,
[17:27] <milen8204> the PC have Wi-fi stick
[17:27] <gigglefight> i'm installing ubuntustudio-video. would it be better to install ubuntustudio-desktop vs. ubuntustudio-video?
[17:27] <sacarlson> milen8204: so?
[17:27] <Potato_> I wish people had a IQ higher than what microsoft thinks they have.
[17:27] <ubuntushop> lol
[17:27] <milen8204> i want to share internet whit laptop wi-fi
[17:27] <Potato_> xD
[17:27] <tstillery> gio_gt: i hope so because im really confused cant make since out of it right now lol
[17:28] <gigglefight> okay i got it. just need the video stuff. thanks all!
[17:28] <sacarlson> milen8204: well I could do it with two ubuntu but I can't help you I'm not a windows expert
[17:28] <Knat> I'm trying to install ubuntu on virtual box, during installation I get what looks like "Keyboard = Man in circle"  what does this mean?
[17:29] <IdleOne> !ics | milen8204
[17:29] <Potato_> Eboard with FICS is extremely buggy and seems to not interact with the server correctly.
[17:30] <rockhopper> milen8204, i think you run a dhcp server and allow others to connect to it...
[17:30] <sipior> Knat: have you tried hitting a key?
[17:30] <rockhopper> I'm sure it'll do the soultion
[17:30] <Knat> sipior: yes
[17:30] <sipior> Knat: and it's stuck there?
[17:30] <Knat> sipior: ye
[17:31] <Knat> yes*
[17:31] <Potato_> How come my actual hostname shows up? >;x
[17:31] <sacarlson> milen8204: the problem is putting your wifi into adhoc mode so you can connect two none access points together.  I'm not sure how to do that eather
[17:32] <IdleOne> !register > Potato_
[17:32] <IdleOne> !cloak > Potato_
[17:32] <Knat> looks like it was a problem with virtualbox, its working, thanks
[17:32] <gio_gt> tstillery: well, it depends a lot of what you really want to do with your IRC client. If you like to be always connected and access it easily from everywhere via SSH and screen and if you like to customize your client with an easy scriptable interface, weechat is perfect.
[17:32] <sacarlson> milen8204: and you need to put the wifi on both side windows and linux in adhoc
[17:32] <Potato_> Thanks ubottu :D
[17:33] <gio_gt> tstillery: it is good if you want to use everything for the keyboard and forget your mouse, too
[17:33] <Potato_> So is anyone here running 64 bit Ubuntu?
[17:33] <headkase314> Potato_, I was for a while but switched to 32-bit
[17:33] <sacarlson> Potato_:  I was until about 2 weeks ago for about 2 years
[17:34] <Potato_> I am but its sorta pointless
[17:34] <Potato_> b/c it can read all of my RAM
[17:34] <philinux> Potato_: 64 bit here
[17:34] <Potato_> Nice philinux
[17:34] <headkase314> Potato_, I only have 3GB of memory so didn't need 64-bit. If you have 4+GB then 64-bit is what you need.
[17:34] <sacarlson> Potato_:  yes without more than 4gig ram it's pointless,  I spent many hours getting what I needed to work with it
[17:35] <Potato_> But doenst process 'better' in a 64 bit os?
[17:35] <j-moose> Hello, I just installed xubuntu, on a satellite A305 with a Ocz 96G SSD
[17:35] <vocx> ActionParsnip, hey, the link you gave me seems to give hope about the Canon scanner. Sadly, I don't feel like compiling sane, better wait till Ubuntu 10.10
[17:35] <deFrysk> all apps work with 32 bit, some apps have quirks with 64 bit
[17:35] <philinux> Potato_: 2 gig ram but this swayed it for me. http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-904-32-bit-vs-64-bit-benchmarks
[17:35] <husimon> hey i'm switching hard drive controllers and i was wondering where all do I need to change reference of hda to sda?  I've tried the menu.1st, the fstab but i'm still getting boot problems of it looking for the old hda references.  Are there references built into initrd or something that i'd have to recompile to fix?
[17:35] <sacarlson> Potato_: sure if you have like 6 gig it might make an improvment
[17:35] <Quantum_Ion> true you need a lot of RAM in most machines nowadays at least 2GB or more
[17:35] <Quantum_Ion> minimum is 1GB of RAM
[17:36] <deFrysk> 32bit is a safe choice for a desktop os
[17:36] <Laibsch> Does anybody have an idea how to easily make available several releases of netinstaller CDs via PXE and tftp?
[17:36] <philinux> sacarlson: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-904-32-bit-vs-64-bit-benchmarks
[17:36] <Quantum_Ion> deFrysk, right
[17:36] <sacarlson> Potato_: now they have a 32bit kernel that supports 4+ gigs mem also
[17:36] <coz_> husimon,  so you are not able to boot at all ?
[17:36] <Potato_> Thanks philinux
[17:36] <Potato_> Today is Friday the 13th! :O
[17:37] <deco> :o
[17:37] <Potato_> OMG
[17:37] <Potato_> :D
[17:37] <husimon> coz_, it drops me into some single user mode thing
[17:37] <philinux> Potato_: been running 64 nit for 18 months now no problem at all.
[17:37] <husimon> coz_, but i have a live cd mounting it righ now.
[17:37] <littlepenguin> Potato_, jason is coming for you
[17:37] <coz_> husimon,   try  sudo update-grub  to see if it recognizes  the dirves
[17:37] <Potato_> Nice :O
[17:37] <Potato_> If im interested in trying Debian, What problems should i encounter?
[17:38] <coz_> husimon,  but if you put the hd controller in after installation it may have some difficulty but i dont think it's impossible to remedy...however you may want to try the ##linux channel for more indepth info on this
[17:38] <littlepenguin> Potato_, try and see :D
[17:38] <headkase314> So, I hooked my computer up to my HDTV via HDMI.  Works really good!  So now my computer is officially a Home Theatre PC ;)
[17:38] <enzotib> Potato_: you could ask on #debian
[17:38] <Potato_> Well i only have 1 disc
[17:38] <deFrysk> Potato_, older software, older kernel, more to do afa config is concerned
[17:38] <Potato_> And i dont want to waste
[17:38] <Potato_> Right
[17:38] <littlepenguin> Potato_, virtual machine :D
[17:38] <Potato_> xD
[17:38] <Potato_> Ok
[17:39] <Potato_> Thanks guys :)
[17:39] <Potato_> And girls
[17:39] <deFrysk> Potato_, if you get debian to work properly is faster and more stable usually
[17:39] <husimon> coz_, k i'll try
[17:39] <sacarlson> philinux: it looks like it make a difference in ogg encoding.  but the rest looked flat about the same.  so when they have everything compiled in 64bit I'll be back
[17:40] <deFrysk> Potato_, go for the testing install, the current debian stable version is a bit stale
[17:40] <vocx> Potato_, some feel like using Debian is like graduating from the Ubuntu school... I don't care personally, I want to be spoon fed by Canonical and company.
[17:41] <philinux> sacarlson: Java and Flash
[17:41] <j-moose> I really like this OS on a SSD, I was going to use a external hard drive , but couldn,t resist giving it a home on this drive
[17:41] <deFrysk> ubuntu vs debian ? i choose ubuntu hands down
[17:41] <sacarlson> philinux: but I've been running 32bit for 2 weeks now and notice nothing but having a working canon printer driver and the same speed that I remember having with 64bit
[17:41] <bullhorn> i just got back into ubuntu
[17:41]  * philinux Choice
[17:41] <bullhorn> im on my gsm modem, trying to figure how to connect with my ethernet cable modem
[17:42] <bullhorn> i think it recognizes it as 'eth0' but i need to write some username and password... im not sure :X
[17:42] <Rogue1> Gah - I put an Ubuntu Desktop 10.4 i386 CD into a server I have here, booted to the live install ok... froze. Power-cycled the machine, and now not only can I not get the CD to do anything useful, I can't get the existing OS to do anything. Goes through BIOS then shows a blinking underscore on the screen
[17:42] <mrman208> fuck
[17:43] <bullhorn> any ideas?
[17:43] <splnet> I have installed 32 bit 9.10 on a system. But I need to install 64 bit version. Whats the best way to do that?
[17:43] <deco> splnet: reinstall
[17:43] <sacarlson> philinux: well I guess I don't use java and flash much or the speed is just unnoticable
[17:43] <deco> splnet: there's no other way
[17:43] <mrb_> bullhorn: Does your ISP use PPPoE?
[17:43] <bullhorn> i am not sure about this
[17:44] <sacarlson> philinux: what about never having skype?
[17:44] <splnet> deco: hmm ok. What is the best image for that? http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso <-- is that it?
[17:44] <deco> splnet: yup that's the only one for the desktop
[17:44] <deco> splnet: wait no that's an old release
[17:44] <deco> splnet: get 10.04
[17:44] <philinux> sacarlson: Skype I've never used
[17:44] <splnet> deco: ok thats not the live cd is it?
[17:44] <deco> splnet: just a sec
[17:44] <bullhorn> mrb_, can you give me the two methods than, for PPPoE enabled and disabled?
[17:45] <coz_> splnet,   if it says  "desktop" then it is the live cd
[17:45] <deco> splnet: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download    , click on 64bit
[17:45] <AndrewMC> bullhorn~ well if it is PPPoE you need to know your ISP login info
[17:45] <sacarlson> philinux: I also needed to bend over to install 32bit libs and install 32bit firefox to enable watir in ruby took me 3 days just for that
[17:45] <mrb_> bullhorn: "pppoeconf" in terminal will help you there if you have the details AndrewMC mentions
[17:45] <wout> Hello, is it possible to completely get rid of ubuntu on a computer without reinstalling Windows 7 in a dual boot configuration?
[17:45] <philinux> sacarlson: You're better off with 32 bit I can see
[17:46] <sacarlson> philinux: if I had known I would have never started 64bit
[17:46] <splnet> deco: ok will that blow away all of my files? or can I do an upgrade?
[17:46] <deco> wout: yes remove the ubuntu partitions and merge them with the windows partition
[17:46] <bullhorn> mrb_,  AndrewMC, can we try the without-PPPoE method first and if it fails, ill gtfo back to my windows xp and try to dig out the info..
[17:46] <C-S-B-N900> losing nfs shares when suspsending whats the best solution?
[17:46] <deco> splnet: do you have a seperate /home partition ?
[17:46] <mrb_> bullhorn: well first of all, do you get any kind of IP to your eth0 ?
[17:46] <splnet> deco: good point. no I don't
[17:46] <IdleOne> wout: How did you install ubuntu?
[17:46] <deco> splnet: it will reinstall over it then
[17:47] <deco> splnet: so make a backup
[17:47] <sipior> C-S-B-N900: are they mounted with the "soft" option?
[17:47] <sacarlson> philinux: but I know there will be a day for 64bit or 128 bit who knows
[17:47] <wout> Um,i have 3 partitions, i'm no genius with computers, but i have a 100mb system reserved partition, and a windows 7 and linux partition, i installed ubuntu from the live cd
[17:47] <sipior> C-S-B-N900: also, is this via an automounter?
[17:47] <bullhorn> mrb_, how do i check? im seriously new to this..
[17:47] <splnet> deco: ok thanks
[17:47] <deco> splnet: np
[17:47] <mrb_> bullhorn: open a terminal and type "ifconfig"
[17:47] <AndrewMC> wout~ well what you need to do is boot a live CD use gparted to make the windows partition take the whole drive... then you need the windows disc to reinstall the Microsoft MBR
[17:47] <Potato_> Has anyone here ran 'ttylinx?
[17:47] <littlepenguin> sacarlson, i think something really new will be invented..
[17:47] <mrb_> bullhorn: it's a verbose version of the windows "ipconfig"
[17:47] <sarah32> hi where can i ask question about lucid an problems with graphic card?
[17:47] <Potato_> *ttylinux
[17:47] <deco> sarah32: here ?
[17:47] <IdleOne> wout: ok you can use Gparted to format the linux partition
[17:48] <ubuntushop> Microsoft Windows <><> UGH
[17:48] <AndrewMC> sarah32~ ask away
[17:48] <wout> Yes, okay, but i don't have the windows 7 cd anymore, do i need it?
[17:48] <coz_> splnet,  you may want to try the minimal install cd
[17:48] <Potato_> I wish people had an IQ higher than what Microsoft thinks they have.
[17:48] <deco> Potato_: lol
[17:48] <sipior> Potato_: you said that already.
[17:48] <coz_> splnet,   it will download the current updates  as of today
[17:48] <splnet> coz_: you mean the server install?
[17:48] <Quantum_Ion> wout, Didn't you make a backup copy of Win7 CDROM
[17:48] <Potato_> I know
[17:48] <ubuntushop> Definatly dont need it whith Ubuntu
[17:48] <Potato_> xD
[17:48] <sarah32> when i boot up system it starts and after 10 sec screen goes black with info [drm:radeon_ttm_backend_bind]*ERROR* failed to bind 1294 pages at 0x00000000
[17:48] <deco> wout: you need to reinstall window's boot manager
[17:48] <C-S-B-N900> sipior: i just stuck it in fstab
[17:48] <coz_> splnet,   no  although the server is available with the minimal
[17:48] <sarah32> how to sort it out?
[17:48] <wout> Can i do this from a usb drive?
[17:49] <IdleOne> wout: there is a gparted live cd available for windows. Yes you will need to fix the MBR master boot record. see ##windows for info on that
[17:49] <C-S-B-N900> sipior: i didnt use soft
[17:49] <coz_> splnet,  the minimal allows for  kubuntu   ubuntu edubuntu  including all the servers
[17:49] <sipior> C-S-B-N900: can you show the relevant line?
[17:49] <deco> wout: you'll need your windows cd
[17:49] <bullhorn> mrb_, i dont see an IP there... i do see some TX and RX data though
[17:49] <splnet> coz_: do you have a link? Don't see that here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[17:49] <coz_> splnet,  you decide by ticking which you want install with the space bar at one point
[17:49] <j-moose> Yea I used a live CD to install Xubuntu, Its great, I needed another choice beyond, 7 Ultimate
[17:49] <Quantum_Ion> New Windows 7 always gives you the option to make a Win7 reinstallation CDROM
[17:49] <coz_> splnet,  yep  hold on
[17:49] <coz_> splnet,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:49] <bihari> lii got this error message when i am trying to install windows xp in my vbox FATAL:No Bootable medium found ! System halted
[17:50] <bihari> i got this error message when i am trying to install windows xp in my vbox FATAL:No Bootable medium found ! System halted
[17:50] <coz_> splnet,  its a much smaller download an burn but I would still burn this at 1x  if possible
[17:50] <wout> So there is no way to do it from a external hdd, and i had the (cracked) version of windows 7 on a cd, but the cd broke.
[17:50] <mrb_> bullhorn: no "inet xx.xx.xx.xx" info?
[17:50] <coz_> splnet,  both 64 and 32 bit minimals on that link
[17:50] <deco> bihari: you didn't load the cd or iso properly
[17:50] <Quantum_Ion> most people dont make Win 7 reinstallation CDs before their computers hard drive gets corrupted
[17:50] <splnet> coz_: cool thanks
[17:50] <coz_> splnet,  when that boots just hit "enter"  to get menu
[17:50] <bullhorn> mrb_, this is the closest to that, but no:
[17:50] <sacarlson> bihari: what are you using a real cd to boot from?
[17:50] <IdleOne> wout: We don't support Windows ##windows but you won't get much help with cracked versions.
[17:50] <C-S-B-N900> sipior: FS
[17:50] <C-S-B-N900> oops
[17:50] <bullhorn> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:38:70:e8:4f
[17:50] <bullhorn>           inet6 addr: fe80::21b:38ff:fe70:e84f/64 Scope:Link
[17:50] <wout> well, i'll go try there.
[17:50] <vocx> Anybody has a scanner plugged in and ready to use? I'd like to see your "lsmod" output to see if I'm missing a kernel module, so I can try to load it. My scanner is a Canon CanoScan LiDE 100; I think I've read it doesn't work with Linux; still trying though.
[17:51] <coz_> splnet,   then it will install similar to alternate install disk
[17:51] <arrrghhh> !pastebin | bullhorn
[17:51] <bullhorn> got it
[17:51] <mrb_> bullhorn: ah k, IPv6.
[17:51] <sacarlson> bihari: use an iso file to simulate the cd
[17:51] <IdleOne> wout: like I said Gparted has a windows version and you might still be able to use grub to boot Win7 but I am not sure
[17:51] <bullhorn> it isnt supposed to be ipv6 afaik... :/
[17:51] <bullhorn> its a crappy 2.5mbit cable connection
[17:51] <Oer> vocx canon lide 100 is a pain with linux
[17:51] <C-S-B-N900> sipior: 192.168.1.254:/volume1/Movies /home/xbmc/Videos/Moviez nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
[17:51] <arrrghhh> bullhorn, it'll still have ipv6 info even if it's not using the protocol.
[17:52] <deco> IdleOne: he can still use grub because it gets installed at the master boot sector of the hdd
[17:52] <coz_> splnet,   this is NOT  a live cd   there will be no booting into desktop environment
[17:52] <sacarlson> bihari: oh maybe for you that's all you got a cd.  I use iso files for everything including window install
[17:52] <sipior> C-S-B-N900: might be useful: http://palebluedot.nl/jml/computer-stuff/26-umountnfs.html
[17:52] <IdleOne> deco: so if wout formats his linux partition he should still be able to boot his windows ?
[17:52] <vocx> Oer, I know, I just found a few threads about it. Seems that the new sane in git works though. I don't feel like compiling the new modules, so maybe it will work by Ubuntu 10.10
[17:52] <darkmist> алоха!!
[17:52] <deco> IdleOne: yes
[17:53] <deco> yotta911: using grub
[17:53] <deco> grr
[17:53] <deco> sorry
[17:53] <deco> IdleOne: yeah using grub
[17:53] <FloodBot2> deco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <rooks> i wanna plug my script upon installing new kernel , where do i plug it into ubuntu?
[17:53] <IdleOne> wout: according to deco you should be fine with grub
[17:53] <Oer> vocx verry little chance, i am afraid.
[17:53] <mrb_> bullhorn: what happens if you just open up a webbrowser (without any other NICs connected), are you taken to a login page? Otherwise I would look at finding the details of the ISP config/plan to see if it's PPPoE
[17:53] <vocx> Oer, what's your experience?
[17:53] <bullhorn> mrb_, nothing happens, it keeps trying to connect
[17:53]  * ubuntushop <--- Never uses Microsoft Windows for anything can barely even breath thinking about it  .. . 
[17:53] <bullhorn> ill go back to windows xp and try to get some of the info out
[17:54] <j-moose> Thanks everyone, If I have problems I'll be back
[17:54] <rooks> how to automaticaly run my script on each kernel upgrade?
[17:54] <Oer> vocx i have 1 canon lide 100 for sale, and bought myself a epson photo rx600 incl scanner :(
[17:54] <bullhorn> ill be back in a few minutes via winxp brb ->
[17:54] <Quantum_Ion> I always keep a backup copy of Windows XP
[17:54] <IdleOne> !windows
[17:54] <Quantum_Ion> I need it to run some legacy programs
[17:54] <sarah32> what irc channel is for people with problems in lucid?
[17:54] <Oer> vocx a few hardware will never work, canon has a few, also soundblaster !Live 24 ..
[17:54] <arrrghhh> sarah32, desktop?  this channel.
[17:54] <IdleOne> let's stick to the topic which is Ubuntu support please
[17:54] <mrb_> Anyone encountered problems with flashplayer after following this lovely guide? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[17:55] <IdleOne> sarah32: this is the one
[17:55] <cmpsalvestrini> Greetings A/all
[17:55] <Mjuksel> anyone got advice for a dreamweaver type program?
[17:55] <sarah32>  when i boot up system it starts and after 10 sec screen goes black with info [drm:radeon_ttm_backend_bind]*ERROR* failed to bind 1294 pages at 0x00000000
[17:55] <sarah32> [drm:radeon_gem_object_create]*ERROR* failed to allocate GEM object (5300224,2,4096, -22)
  Failed to allocate:size:trying to bind memory to unitialized CART
[17:55] <sarah32> and now my system is ubuntu lucid and card ati hd4850
[17:55] <rooks> how to automaticaly run my script on each kernel upgrade?
[17:55] <arrrghhh> !pastebin | sarah32
[17:55] <Matthes_> hello  lsmod gave me the outout snd_hda_intel          25677  0
[17:56] <Matthes_> and much more
[17:56] <arrrghhh> sarah32, please pastebin all your output.
 ok
[17:56] <cmpsalvestrini> rooks: perhaps a cronjob?
[17:56] <vocx> Oer, this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1033181&page=1   Not saying you should try it, or that because of that Canon is now good, just that it may work with the next stable release.
[17:56] <Matthes_> does it mean tht the sound modul is disabled?
[17:56] <sacarlson> sarah32: wow glad I don't have a radeon video card I see alot of people complain about them
[17:56] <rooks> cmpsalvestrini, nah, im more interested in some hook that kernel launches on upgrade like auto grub relaunch, i am thinking on hooking up to grub, but i believe tehre are better solutions
[17:57] <Raydiation> changing the volume via the applet causes my sound to freeze for 2-5 seconds. is this normal?
[17:57] <Raydiation> this issue appeared after i installed a new soundcard today, onboard sound was working fine: asus xonar dx 7.1
[17:57] <sacarlson> remember to buy nvidia!! it works
[17:57] <Oer> vocx lucid 10.04 is a stable, lts release ... Canon has show little to no support for its products on Linux.
 this is not a card problem this is driver problem
[17:57] <vocx> Matthes_, no that I know of. Typically if it appears in "lsmod" it works.
[17:58] <Matthes_> ok, thanks
[17:58] <sacarlson> sarah32: I'm sure it is
[17:58] <cmpsalvestrini> rook: Understood, hooks are a bit out of my league, I'm more into generic support and/or evangelism
[17:58] <arrrghhh> sarah32, yes, generally support for nvidia cards in linux is better.
[17:59] <rooks> how to automaticaly run my script on each kernel upgrade?
[17:59] <BullHornL> im back
[17:59] <sarah32> now that the output im getting everytime i boot up lucid screen goes black and there is this info http://paste.ubuntu.com/477522/
[17:59] <IdleOne> sacarlson: sarah32 you are both right, the card needs the drivers and the devs needs the specs to get make the drivers for the card, so yeah both are the problem.
[17:59] <Quantum_Ion> Who will rule the post Microsoft Era world is up for grabs either Ubuntu Linux or Google Android
[17:59] <BullHornL> WAN Miniport (L2TP) - does it tell us anything? :x
[17:59] <arrrghhh> rooks, someone said cron, is that not good enough?
[17:59] <IdleOne> !ot | Quantum_Ion
[17:59] <sipior> rooks: you could use inotify to watch for changes in /boot, and trigger your script appropriately.
[17:59] <rooks> arrrghhh,  cmpsalvestrini, nah, im more interested in some hook that kernel launches on upgrade like auto grub relaunch, i am thinking on hooking up to grub, but i believe tehre are better solutions
[17:59] <ubuntushop> Sarah32 use google translator and check this site http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/drm-radeon-ttm-backend-bind-error-installatio/#post-2569173
[18:00] <sarah32> i did but no solution
[18:00] <arrrghhh> possibly, but i don't know how much help this room is going to be for your rooks
[18:00] <splnet> rooks:  what kind of script?
[18:00] <ubuntushop> hmm
[18:00] <arrrghhh> sarah32, i'm assuming you have the proper drivers installed for the card?
[18:00] <sarah32> i didnt install anydrivers
[18:00] <sarah32> there is no support from catalyst for lucid xorg
[18:01] <rooks> sipior, i want to run my custom mkinitramfs along with regular ones, for some custom netboot system im making for my uni
[18:01] <sarah32> so i use driver already installed probably open source or something
[18:01] <sacarlson> sarah32: can't they just force the vesa drive on it to at least get it to boot?
[18:01] <arrrghhh> sarah32, well that may be your problem then.  the vesa suggestion may work for you, but you won't get any features on the card.
[18:01] <ubuntushop> Sarah32 check / etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:01] <_mrb_> bullhorn: that's a VPN tunnel/pppoe adapter
[18:01] <sarah32> i booted without problem
[18:01] <rooks> sipior, teh best solution i have is plugging my stuff into grub.d scripts, but i was wondering if theres is more straightforward way to do it
[18:02] <arrrghhh> sarah32, so what's the issue if you can boot?
[18:02] <rooks> sipior, like some official hooks available on upgrading a package
[18:02] <sipior> rooks: you could always provide your own kernel packages.
[18:02] <rooks> sipior, lol, too much work and totally unneded
[18:02] <sipior> rooks: that has the advantage of giving you complete control.
 i could boot yesterday today when i boot up in 10sec black screeen with the info about radeon
[18:03] <sipior> rooks: only a few minutes work.
[18:03] <sipior> well, an hour, maybe,
[18:03] <ubuntushop> Sarah32 is that a pci or AGP
[18:03] <arrrghhh> sarah32, so you could boot yesterday but not today?
[18:03] <rooks> sipior,  just wanna hook my script and have whole solution as COTS as possible :p
[18:03] <sarah32> laptop
[18:03] <ubuntushop> ok
[18:03] <sarah32> so i guess pci
[18:04] <rooks> sipior, i guess ill go with pluging into grub then :) itll be ugly, but itll do :0
[18:04] <rooks> :)
[18:04] <sipior> rooks: have fun
[18:04] <rooks> thx :)
[18:04] <splnet> rooks: perhaps you can check into modifing apt. in the case a regex matches such as kernel on update fire off your script
[18:05] <sacarlson> sarah32: also look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:05] <sipior> splnet: he didn't want to make his own kernel packages, so imagine modifying apt is off the table ;-)
[18:05] <rooks> splnet, hmm, sounds interesting, any pointers on that? like some path where to look in my filesystem or some man page?
 yes yesterday was ok the thing about lucid is that everytime i boot up i need to restart udev cuz there is an issue with optirac dvd or soemthing after i restart udev cpu is used in about 3 to 5% than everything is working or was working generally ok today i installed few things like drivers for wifi some themes etc and now i wanted start lucid again and it doesnt work anymore
[18:06] <sarah32> and that what i see after 10 sec http://paste.ubuntu.com/477522/
[18:06] <splnet> rooks well just check out more on how apt update process works. I can't help beyond that. I'm sure there is a cheap hack you do to make that work
[18:08] <arno__> witam wszystkich kto ma chęć popisać
[18:08] <sipior> rooks: hey, does update-initramfs not do what you want?
[18:08] <rooks> splnet, hm... i guess ill settle for pushing my script into /etc/grub.d scripts for now, dont have time for making it more solid, i just hoped for some place to plug a scriopt on package update, like if-up dir for network interfaces
[18:08] <rooks> sipior, im actually doing something in paralell to that
 speak english not a spanish
[18:09] <arno__> proszę po polsku pisać
[18:09] <sipior> sarah32: that's not even close to Spanish :-)
[18:09] <ted__> I installed 10.04 server, ubuntu-desktop.  apt-get issues error statements near the end of the process.  I want a GUI plus the power of the server.  Is there another way to do this?
[18:09] <sipior> !pl > arno__
[18:09] <ted__> s/,/then/
[18:09] <ubuntushop> it is german
[18:09] <sipior> ubuntushop: nein
[18:10] <IdleOne> ubuntushop: I think the word "polsku" makes it clearly not german
 si chico
[18:10] <Flannel> ted__: You can certainly have a GUI with a server, what are the errors?  There's no reason to think you should have errors
[18:10] <ubuntushop> Oh sorry come in at the wrong time on that sorry
[18:10] <ted__> Flannel: I was afraid you'd ask that.  I'll re-do it to get the errors.
[18:11] <ted__> Flannel: brb
[18:11] <sipior> sarah32: quite the polyglot
[18:11] <ubuntushop> I was talking abou the weblink i gave sarah earlier
[18:11] <IdleOne> oh
 it was polish
[18:12] <bihari> i wants to know  shud i connect it through local area network or directly through the internet ? my vbox OS ?
[18:12] <sipior> sarah32: i know.
[18:12] <sacarlson> ok linguist majors
 so how to make  lucid working with ati hd4850?
[18:13] <sarah32> what the solution to my problem?
[18:13] <sipior> sarah32: no earthly idea.
[18:13] <Oer> bihari choose local, if you don't want to access internet
[18:13] <BluesKaj> sarah32, intel hda ?
[18:13] <bihari> Oer and if i wants to access internet then?
[18:14] <Oer> bihari then do not choose local.
 yes intel hdi and ati hdmi
[18:14] <bihari> i have chosen local
[18:15] <bihari> now if i want to access internet then ?
[18:15] <sensouci> Hello, did anyone got the saa7134 dvb card working on a 64bit lucid ubuntu ?
[18:15] <bihari> if i wants to access internet in future then what shud i have to do ?
[18:15] <sacarlson> sarah32: well I guess this at least proves your card can work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKRps2gcGeM
[18:16] <yanick_> hi, according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbeans/+bug/595000, Netbeans 6.9 's package is released... but it doesn't show up in Synaptic (or apt). Anybody know where/when it will be available?
[18:16] <ted__> Flannel: I did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-deskop >desktop.install 2>&1
 are you sure its ati and lucid?
 do you believe in everything you see on tv>?
[18:17] <ted__> Flannel: It produced almost 400 lines of output.  Three of them are telling.  How do I get them to you?
[18:17] <sarah32> or youtube?
[18:17] <Flannel> ted__: paste.ubuntu.com
[18:17] <sacarlson> sarah32: hay I just showing you what I found I thought it was very cool and all you need is hope
[18:18] <ted__> Flannel: um, the name of the 3-line file is ``segfault.''
[18:20] <thune3> yanick_: according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbeans 6.9 is for 10.10 maverick.
[18:20] <techwizrd> I finally got my Wacom table working in lucid. I just installed the drivers from the linux wacom sourceforge site. I solved the whole cursor jumping around thing by adding Option "Mode" "Relative" to my /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-wacom.conf
[18:20] <yanick_> thune3, really? that is sad :(
[18:20] <techwizrd> No bug report needed, although that should be the default. :)
 hehehehehe i still have bit of hope
[18:20] <prakriti> using compiz cube desktop and rotate cube,  when i drag a window to the edge the cube spins madly
[18:21] <kulhas> hello, I am receiving this error error: stddef.h: No such file or directory , could this be a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.3/+bug/355408
[18:21] <prakriti> is there any way to keep it from going nuts and just flipping to the next face?
[18:21] <Alias01> im trying to boot ubuntu from a usb stick and it just prints "j" and a blinking "_" and does nothing, what should i do?
[18:21] <Oer> prakriti, no, just release the mousebutton
[18:22] <prakriti> Oer, it still flips like 10 times before stopping in a random place
[18:22] <ted__> Flannel: 47535
[18:22] <sacarlson> sarah32: I wonder if you look in system>administration>hardware drivers if it would show you anything?
[18:23] <Flannel> ted__: er, oh.  alright.
[18:23] <sacarlson> sarah32: if not I found this: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[18:24] <peggys_mouse> hey all...is it possible to export photos to my ipod touch? i tried f-spot but don't see the option.
[18:24] <Alias01> all files are inplace, the stick is formated to ex4 and bootable, why can't i still boot :(
[18:24] <Flannel> ted__: Are you sure? "47535" looks like code, and we're up to six digits now :)
 do you know whats the xorg version lucid use?
[18:24] <sarah32> it isnt 7.5
[18:24] <sarah32> right?
[18:24] <ted__> Flannel: 477535
[18:24] <ted__> Flannel: 477535,6,7...
[18:25] <deFrysk> peggys_mouse, it should be possible but never got it to work, thanks you steve
[18:25] <sacarlson> sarah32: I see in synaptic xorg 1.7.5
[18:25] <ansimation> any idea why after installing 4gb of ram and using the 2.6.32-24-generic-pae kernel it's only seeing 3.2gb of it?
[18:25] <kryptyk> ansimation: you are using a 32bit OS
[18:25] <Flannel> ted__: Don't have the full thing?  Well, I can verify that you've got an error.  Try installing shared-mime-info (sudo apt-get install shared-mime-info) and pastebin the results
[18:26] <kryptyk> ansimation: it is a limitation of the architecture
[18:26] <Alias01> no one can help me? :/
[18:26] <ted__> Flannel: 10-4.
[18:26] <deFrysk> kryptyk, pae kernel should see it right ?
[18:26] <ansimation> kryptyk:  yes, with a kernel that is compiled with pae
[18:26] <deco> Alias01: what's your question ?
[18:26] <MrGando> Hello guys, I'm trying to be able to make a subdomain of mine to redirect to www.subdomain.com when I type subdomain.com (without www ) in my browser. It's setup as a virtual host, and I have tried server alias and mod_rewrite with no luck. Could anyone help me a bit here ? (I'm using Ubuntu server 8.04)
[18:26] <Alias01> deco:im trying to boot ubuntu from a usb stick and it just prints "j" and a blinking "_" and does nothing, what should i do?
[18:26] <luanlmd> how do I set a background for a whole gnome-panel? not just the middle.... when I try to set the menus and the notification area stay the same!
[18:26] <kryptyk> ansimation: Yes, PAE should take care of it
 so you mean i should try this driver i mean catalyst 10.6 ? will it work with lucid? or will brake everything?
[18:27] <deco> Alias01: so it does boot the usb but just hangs ?
[18:27] <ansimation> that's what i thought as well. but unfortunately it isn't
[18:27] <Alias01> deco:yeah
[18:27] <deco> Alias01: what did you use to get it into the usb ?
[18:27] <sacarlson> sarah32: I would look in system>administration>hardware drivers  first that should be tested by ubuntu already
[18:27] <Alias01> deco:to boot from it? bios settings
[18:28] <deco> Alias01: no i mean what did you use to get the ubuntu iso into the usb
[18:28] <PeterDrop> hi all, iam looking for some software, for web pages mockup, any suggestion here?
[18:28] <Alias01> deco:i made it bootable from windows using "diskpart" could it be because of it?
[18:28] <loculinux> xupalo+
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> PeterDrop: do you mean html writing?
[18:28] <benjamin_> hi, my graphical interface doesnt work properly anymore, ie. I can't use nvidia anymore. When I do I get the xorg message that EDID of CRT-0 can't be found or something like that. What do I do?
[18:28] <sacarlson> sarah32: oh but it won't boot now so how do you install it?
[18:28] <Alias01> deco:i didn't get the iso into the usb i installed ubuntu from a live cd to a usb stick
[18:28] <deco> Alias01: use  unetbootin , ti's for windows too
[18:28] <PeterDrop> ActionParsnip: no, just the mockup
[18:28] <deco> Alias01: ah
[18:29] <ted__> Flannel: Can we start over from the bottom up?  I have the server install disk; I can d/l the desktop disk?
[18:29] <ted__> Flannel: Would this be cleaner?
[18:29] <deco> Alias01: how big is the usb ?
[18:29] <Alias01> deco:8gb
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: it means that udev is asking the monitor what it can do, and its not talking back
[18:29] <deco> k hmm
[18:29] <Flannel> ted__: It would be.  Alternate CD is probably more useful for your purposes
[18:29] <BluesKaj> !usb  | Alias01
[18:29] <benjamin_> ActionParsnip: ok, how do I fix that?
[18:30] <Alias01> «BluesKaj» im not trying to install FROM im installing TO a usb stick
[18:30] <deco> Alias01: did you use the ubuntu usb creator app thing ?
[18:30] <ted__> Flannel: brb.  researching your information.
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: if you run: sudo nvidia-xconfig ,the system will make an xorg.conf file with some ok settings for refresh rates which will tell the system what's what instead of the system working it out for itself
[18:30] <Alias01> deco:whats that?
 someone told me to change something in grub to boot with minimal graphic
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: you can then reboot and it should be ok
[18:31] <benjamin_> ActionParsnip: I tried that it didn't do anything useful (ie. it didnt work at all)
[18:31] <deco> Alias01: wait i thought you said you used the live cd to make a bootable usb ?
[18:31] <Oer> !persistent
[18:31] <deco> how ?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> yeah Alias01 , but that's the procedure to use to put the installer on the stick , you can't just copy from the live cd
[18:31] <sacarlson> sarah32: and that works?
[18:31] <luanlmd> how do I set a background for a whole gnome-panel? not just the middle...
[18:31] <Flannel> ted__: Alternate CD uses the same method as the server CD (debian-installer) to install, instead of a liveCD based installation.  It provides more flexibility for your install
[18:31] <Alias01> deco:yes i did
[18:31] <benjamin_> nvidia-xconfig simply adds "nvidia" it doesnt add modelines or anything
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: does your xorg.conf file now have text in it?
[18:31] <deco> Alias01: but how ?
[18:31] <sacarlson> Alias01: did you try this link for your usb boot?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:31] <benjamin_> ActionParsnip: of course
[18:31] <benjamin_> ActionParsnip: at the moment I use "nv" instead of "nvidia"
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: lucid doesn't ship one so no, not ofcourse
[18:32] <Alias01> deco:i don't have an hdd on my laptop so in the install i just selected the usb stick
[18:32] <benjamin_> I am not sure what that is but at least I get something like a graphical interface
[18:32] <Alias01> «sacarlson» yes i did
[18:32] <sacarlson> opps didn't see it up there
[18:32] <PeterDrop> ActionParsnip: something like this http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups# , very cool
[18:32] <deco> Alias01: where did it install grub ?
 im asking some<sacarlson> im going to try it now
[18:32] <Spaztic_One> My windows network folder is failing to "fetch the share list" and so I have been unable to access my other computers via my laptop, what do I need to do to get it working again?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: you need to put stuff in the screen and monitor sections to define refresh rates as your monitor is not talking back to the system
[18:32] <benjamin_> ActionParsnip: if there is no xorg.conf how does the graphical interface know which driver to use?
[18:32] <Alias01> «deco» not sure, shouldn't the ubuntu setup install grub?
[18:33] <benjamin_> ActionParsnip: but I dont know those settings
[18:33] <sacarlson> sarah32: ok good luck
[18:34] <hsr> Hello
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: hunt online for sample files, you will find sections or code you can use in your file, you will need: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ,to get write access
[18:34] <bichonfrise74> In Ubuntu 10.04, how do I highlight something and it will be copied automatically to the clipboard?
[18:34] <hsr> How to save any playing media irrespective of website in firefox?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> PeterDrop: I don't have flash, I don't do anything like that either, sorry
[18:34] <luanlmd> bichonfrise74, click the middle button to paste
[18:34] <benjamin_> ActionParsnip: but how do I know which settings to put there? if I just copy a file from the internet it will most probably not be a good setting
[18:35] <benjamin_> ActionParsnip: it should be possible to autodetect such settings
[18:35] <Oer> bichonfrise74, i use parcellite Lightweight GTK+ clipboard manager
[18:35] <PeterDrop> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntulife.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mytunez.gif
[18:35] <Alias01> «deco» i'll tell you exactly what i did, i used virtualbox in windows and booted the ubuntu 10.04 image, from there i formated to ex4 and installed it on the usb stick, i made it bootable from windows with "diskpart"
[18:35] <bichonfrise74> luanlmd - I'm using a latop with a touchpad... so I don't have a middle button.
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: it is but you monitor doesn't do it
[18:35] <Alias01> «deco» am i missing anything?
[18:35] <hsr> Hello! Can anyone help me here?
[18:35] <benjamin_> ActionParsnip: hmm or how do I get the EDID to work? I mean something is obviously wrong since the new release of ubuntu (it worked perfectly before without entering anything)
[18:36] <King_Arthur> bichonfrise74, i use parcellite Lightweight GTK+ clipboard manager
[18:36] <Oer> King_Arthur, you too ? nice :-D
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: new monitor, or connect it to the white connector instead of vga
[18:36] <King_Arthur> Oer: it is handy
[18:36] <z340> hsr: if you know the url, why don't you use wget?
[18:36] <bichonfrise74> King_Arthur - Thanks, I will check it out.
[18:37] <PeterDrop> ActionParsnip: ian gonna give  a shot to qt4 designer, seem very cool
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> PeterDrop: if you are using a gtk based desktop you will pull in qt libs as dependancies
[18:38] <Alias01> so does anyone know what did i do wrong? :X
[18:38] <hsr> z340: How to wget?
[18:38] <hsr> z340: How to use wget?
[18:38] <z340> hsr: open a terminal, wget <URL HERE>
[18:38] <PeterDrop> wget url
[18:39] <synvilla> How do I get photoshop to my linux?
[18:39] <maco> synvilla: CS2 can be installed with wine
[18:39] <bichonfrise74> synvilla - use wine?
[18:39] <maco> !wine | synvilla
[18:40] <synvilla> I have wine on my computer
[18:40] <maco> synvilla: newer CS's work for photoshop too, but not for say... illustrator
[18:40] <PeterDrop> y cs4 too
[18:40] <synvilla> seems like wine is the best solution for everything
[18:40] <bichonfrise74> synvilla - so get the CS installer and use wine to install it.
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> !addpb | synvilla
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> !appdb
[18:40] <PeterDrop> synvilla: if su think that, get back to windows xD
[18:40] <hsr> z340: I tried that, It doesn't save media, it saves only the website
[18:41] <synvilla> PeterDrop: dear nerds, be nice to me. I've only had linux since yesterday, and so far people have only been telling me to use wine for stuff
[18:41] <stratagem_bot> I have the ppa ubuntu repo added.  recently did an update/upgrade and some nvidia packages were updated.  now x is starting in low graphics mode.  anyway to revert?
[18:41] <PeterDrop> hsr: wget url/to/media/
[18:41] <z340> hsr: yeah, if you know the media url, that is how you get it...if you can figure out the media url, then you can get it....is it flash media or something playing from a totem|vlc plugin
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> synvilla: try adopting open and free alternatives then
[18:41] <arrrghhh> synvilla, wine is the best solution to run windows-based applications on linux.  my suggestion if you want to use linux full time is use something that's native to linux.  so ask 'what are some linux alternatives for photoshop?" instead of how to run photoshop on linux.
[18:42] <hsr> PeterDrop: Could you elaborate on that?
[18:42] <stratagem_bot> I tried changing xorg to use VESA, and I get login manager, but after entering valid password, it jst keeps kicking me back to login window.  if I enter in wrong password, it'll say authentication failed.
[18:42] <P3n7A> hey, my ubuntu box can no more play sound, I use lucid lynx, what can I do to set sound system back to default
[18:42] <arrrghhh> synvilla, gimp is very good, but it's not photoshop.
[18:42] <synvilla> ActionParsnip: I want to be able to do similar stuff as I did in windows. I don't really care about the exact software, no. It doesn't have to be a closed software, I just want to have similar functions.
[18:42] <cmpsalvestrini> p3n7A: probably pulseaudio needs to be restarted
[18:42] <PeterDrop> hsr: z340 tell u all about that, read up
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> stratagem_bot: try running: sudo nvidia-xconfig ,then rebooting. You could also try (first): sudo apt-get --reinstall install dkms
[18:42] <Ludo6431> hello, sometimes when i use the cross to close a window it closes another window, what is the problem ? thanks
[18:42] <BluesKaj> hsr, you have to make sure you choose the right url if you are trying to download media content with wget
[18:42] <ted__> Flannel: Will I have to re-partition the disk (and lose all my /home/ data?
[18:42] <ted__> Flannel: I avoided that in the server install.
[18:43] <arrrghhh> Ludo6431, do you have another window behind it and you're perhaps misclicking?
[18:43] <Ludo6431> arrrghhh, no...
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> synvilla: try gimp then
[18:43] <cmpsalvestrini> ted__: there is a way to repartition your HD to have your /home in a different partition, it's safer that way
[18:43] <cntrational> trying to use UIM related things gives me this error message: http://pastebin.com/8nJwyVZ4
[18:43] <synvilla> ActionParsnip: can it edit photos+
[18:43] <synvilla> ?
[18:43] <cmpsalvestrini> try googling for ubuntu move home ted__
[18:43] <arrrghhh> Ludo6431, i've never heard of that problem, it sounds like there's something going on...
[18:43] <P3n7A> cmpsalvestrini : I made a dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio, should I restart the system?
[18:43] <hsr> z340: Its playing media from unknown player (in-built maybe), the media url cannot be found out...
[18:43] <arrrghhh> synvilla, yes of course.  it's just not quite as powerful as photoshop.
[18:43] <sacarlson> shaullx: I hope you tried this usb-creator in ubuntu it's a gui that looks like it does everything.
[18:43] <stratagem_bot> ActionParsnip: tried the nvidia-xconfig alrady. in fact I think it did that for me after the update.  I'll try the dkms thing.
[18:43] <PeterDrop> synvilla: the best way always is try urself
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> synvilla: sure. Its a fully functional graphic package. Check it out
[18:44] <Pici> synvilla: It is similar to photoshop in function. see http://www.gimp.org for details.
[18:44] <deco> synvilla: use inkscape for vector graphics
[18:44] <cmpsalvestrini> P3n/a: try restating the pc, if all else fail try reinstalling pulseaudio
[18:44] <Ludo6431> arrrghhh, i'll make a vid and post the problem on the forum, thanks
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> stratagem_bot: could rename xorg.conf to see if udev is nice to you
[18:44] <shaullx> «sacarlson» it makes a liveusb as far as i know
[18:44] <arrrghhh> Ludo6431, please do.  like i said, i've never heard of that.
[18:44] <P3n7A> cmpsalvestrini : ok, thanks try it and give you feedback in a couple of minutes
[18:44] <sacarlson> shaullx: so did it work?
[18:45] <stratagem_bot> You can find Gimpshop which remaps shortcuts to make them similar to Photoshop.  but I still think Photoshop is far superior.
[18:45] <shaullx> «sacarlson» i'm not trying to make a liveusb
[18:45] <synvilla> hm.. I need icecream to be able to deal with this. When I get back, I'll ask more stupid questions.
[18:45] <glaze> question for y'all
[18:45]  * cmpsalvestrini never had udev problems...
[18:45] <glaze> i have a ten year old sister and i want to do something sexual with her. we're really close and she gets touchy feely with me (straddling me, etc.) and she doesnt seem to mind when i do stuff to her (casually rub her pussy through pants and jeans)
[18:45] <hsr> Apart from using wget, is there a way to download any planning media from website? Any add-on in mozilla will also help.........
[18:45] <glaze> BUT how can i actually make this happen?
[18:45] <z340> hsr: sorry bro, i'm sitting this one out...sounds like a flash player, try something like flash get
[18:45] <sacarlson> shaullx: oh you want persistant?
[18:45] <shaullx> «sacarlson» yes
[18:45] <cmpsalvestrini> glaze: apart from being illegal, why do it with your sister?
[18:45] <Pici> cmpsalvestrini: Hes gone.
[18:46] <Rocky> is there a java plugin for w3m?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> cmpsalvestrini: its a troll pici sorted it
[18:46] <sacarlson> shaullx: ok when you figure that out I would be interested
[18:46] <arrrghhh> cmpsalvestrini, yes, he got kicked.  don't encourage that type of behavior.
[18:46] <hsr> z340: What's flash get? How to use it?
[18:46] <cmpsalvestrini> Pici: thanks
[18:46] <ted__> Flannel: I'm putting the image on a ram stick that used to contain data...I've moved it to my home directory.
[18:46] <BluesKaj> hsr , Firefox has an add on that will give the embedded url , but I forget what it's called
[18:46] <arrrghhh> Pici, thank you indeed :D
[18:46] <zamarax> hello, I'm wondering if it's possible to use the grep command to search files recursively in a directory, find a string a text and remove it from those files
[18:47] <hsr> oh yeah
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> hsr: if you want to download youtube vids you can use youtube-dl ,its in the repos
[18:47] <ted__> Flannel: s/it/the data/
[18:47] <cmpsalvestrini> zamarax: in the true spirit of linux, read man for grep ;)
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> zamarax: sure, linux is great at that stuff
[18:47] <hsr> BluesKaj: Inspect this! is the add-on maybe...
[18:47] <arrrghhh> zamarax, sounds like sed would work better.  grep can't really remove text.
[18:47] <Jari0001> Hei!
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> zamarax: the guys in #bash should also be able to help so
[18:48] <zamarax> ok, awesome, thanks!
[18:48] <Jari0001> I have Aiptek drawing tablet HyperPen Mini
[18:48] <jgcampbell300> can anyone recommend a channel that would offer help/support for setting up a home network to look like a domain so i can test diffrent os's , tools, servers, etc ...
[18:48] <Jari0001> my drawing is always on after the first draw.
[18:48] <neeraj> Hi, I have copied my .gnupg folder from lucid to my maverick, but my keys aren't getting synced. I am also not seeing password and keys manager in applications->accessories
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: how does something look like a domain? Its either a domain or a workgroup
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !maverick | Jari0001
[18:48] <bwolfe> jgcampbell300: like dyndns?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> hsr, then you can use that embedded url with wget
[18:49] <Jari0001> im with 10.04
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Jari0001: you copied the file to maverick, you said
[18:49] <jgcampbell300> well ya ... i want to use dyndns to set up a domain on my home network so i can try diffrent things that need to be ran on a domain ... but i am new to this side of things
[18:49] <Freeaqingme> I got myself a new graphics tablet, can I somehow make sure it works for my primary screen only?
[18:50] <jgcampbell300> was just wondering if there was a channel some where i could listen in on and maybe ask questions when i get stumped
[18:50] <Jari0001> i said, i have Aiptek HyperPen Mini drawing table.
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: thing running on a domain are only different by there being a domain controller centrally managing access
[18:50] <Jari0001> it has drawing always on, after the first time i draw.
[18:50] <hsr> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1913/
[18:50] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, his usage of the word isn't quite correct, cut him some slack :D
[18:51] <arrrghhh> jgcampbell300, you can get help in here for all sorts of ubuntu stuff... anything in particular you're trying to do?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: just trying to get info dude
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: what are you trying to achieve?
[18:52] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, well he said he wanted to setup a web server it sounds like.  so domain controllers have nothing to do with what he wants (from the sounds of it, i agree we don't have enough info)
[18:52] <jgcampbell300> well, I am trying to get the grasp of networks a bit better so i can setup a openchange server properly ... among other things
[18:52] <arrrghhh> oh you're trying to setup openXchange?  nvm.  i'm out.
[18:52] <dri245> in ubuntu, where my name is on top right of the screen, next to the shutdown button. the sign next to my name is marked with "X", something like offline. can i fix that, so i can choose available, or so? i cant click any other statuses.
[18:52] <jgcampbell300> i am trying to replace a MS Exchange server is my goal
[18:52] <cypher-neo> I'm having a sudden problem with Google Chrome. When I click a link to download, the file sits in the download tray and acts like there is no connection at all (the remaining time registers infinity), and then Chrome closes.
[18:52] <git__> anybody here use Zimbra?
[18:53] <arrrghhh> jgcampbell300, zimbra would probably be something better than openXchange...
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: if you want a grasp of networks then study addressing and routing etc. Great place to start.
[18:53] <benjamin_> hi
[18:53] <benjamin_> I am back
[18:53] <teunvD> dri245: are you using empathy?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: try different dns servers
[18:53] <nsouer> Zimbra is a neat product, but I've found it to be fat
[18:53] <benjamin_> my whole computer froze for some reason
[18:53] <dri245> teunvD, i don't really know, i am new to ubuntu. i don't think so.
[18:53] <arrrghhh> nsouer, what would you recommend to replace exchange?
[18:53] <git__> nsouer, I'm looking to install zimbra on ubuntu
[18:53] <benjamin_> the module "nv" somehow managed to get some modelines: (II) NV(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0   88.75  1440 1488 1520 1600  900 903 909 926 +hsync -vsync (55.5 kHz)
[18:53] <jgcampbell300> zimbra you say .. i will have to look that up ... just as long as it is very secure and stable
[18:53] <git__> nsouer, and use kvm
[18:53] <peggys_mouse> anyone ever have any luck exporting photos to an ipod?
[18:53] <benjamin_> what do I put in xorg.conf know to get it working with "nvidia" ?
[18:53] <lisa__> i can't connect to my router. how do i do that?
[18:54] <benjamin_> s/know/now/
[18:54] <ezrafree_> hello
[18:54] <teunvD> dri245, try starting up empathy (alt + F2: enter empathy)
[18:54] <ezrafree_> anyone know how i can get a Tenda 11N usb wifi adapter to work in ubuntu?
[18:54] <arrrghhh> jgcampbell300, in my experience there is no replacement for exchange unfortunately.  at least not a drop-in, feature complete replacement.
[18:54] <nsouer> arrrghhh, replace all of exchange or what parts?
[18:54] <git__> all of exchange
[18:54] <jgcampbell300> benjamin, I have had a lot of luck using the built in restricted drivers option ... much easyer than manualy editing xorg
[18:54] <arrrghhh> nsouer, jgcampbell300 was just asking about what to replace exchange with.  the only thing that came to mind is zimba or openXchange which i heard doesn't play so well.
[18:55] <hsr> Thank you
[18:55] <peggys_mouse> benjamin_: i backed up my xorg.conf (moved it out of the way) and rebooted. that usually works unless you have some funky configuration.
[18:55] <philinux> Problem: Headset mic has no sound at all. Playback stuff is fine
[18:55] <dri245> ya it works now, teunvD . so that was the problem. thanks man :)
[18:55] <lisa__> started up empathy, now what?
[18:55] <jgcampbell300> well the reason i chose openchange is that it said it was built to spcificly run with outlook with out extra software
[18:55] <jgcampbell300> on the client side that is
[18:56] <arrrghhh> jgcampbell300, zimbra will as well (i believe, don't quote me on that :P)
[18:56] <nsouer> Zimbra is the closest thing in my experience to exchange, however, I would question whether people need all the features of exchange really, or if they really just want mail and maybe calendering
[18:56] <benjamin_> jgcampbell300: it complains about not finding EDID
[18:56] <BluesKaj> lisa__, wired or wireless ?
[18:56] <jgcampbell300> i see
[18:56] <arrrghhh> nsouer, honestly what else is there other than zimbra & openXchange tho?
[18:56] <arrrghhh> to have pushmail, i'm not talking posix
[18:56] <jgcampbell300> think im going to look up zimbra right quick
[18:57] <z340> Does anyone know how (or can point to some better documentation) to use ifenslave to bond two wireless nics?
[18:57] <nsouer> arrrghhh, nothing else of substance
[18:57] <Ludo6431> arrrghhh, the problem : http://ludo6431.comyr.com/tmp/pb-ubuntu_wm.ogv
[18:57] <fs-a> Hi. Does anypne know the difference between command1&&command2 and command1;command2?
[18:57] <arrrghhh> nsouer, didn't think so :D
[18:57] <benjamin_> yes
[18:57] <benjamin_> in the first case command2 is only executed if command1 was sucessfull
[18:57] <Ludo6431> fs-a, in the first case command2 is executed only if command1 return a 0 status
[18:57] <peggys_mouse> philinux: have you checked the sound config? there are a sometimes a bunch or options in the hardware section.
[18:58] <fs-a> nice thanks benjamin_ Ludo6431
[18:58] <cypher-neo> Where do I find the settings for DNS on Chrome?
[18:58] <Lap_dragon> how do I find out which sound card came with my computer?
[18:58] <benjamin_> where do I put the Modeline?
[18:58] <benjamin_> or how do I get nvidia driver to work?
[18:58] <nsouer> arrrghhh, what I meant to say is that I don't think people really need exchange, I think most people just need a mail server... postfix is hard to beat
[18:58] <smw> cypher-neo, it uses the local settings
[18:58] <brandini> hello all, I need some info on getting my belkin f5d8013 pcmcia wifi card working
[18:58] <arrrghhh> Ludo6431, you never hit the X.  it seems you're having an issue dragging windows when they're maximized...
[18:58] <BluesKaj> cypher-neo, google dns ?
[18:59] <philinux> peggys_mouse: been through alsamixer gnome-alsamixer padevchooser etc nothing muted
[18:59] <cypher-neo> smw, I don't think DNS is the problem here. It locates all webpages and loads them just fine.
[18:59] <Ludo6431> arrrghhh, i dragged them but it's the same problem with the X button, it closes the other window
[18:59] <cypher-neo> smw, It only crashes when I'm downloading a file
[18:59] <benjamin_> my normal xorg setup doesnt work because the EDID is not found, what exactly do I have to manually put there to get it working?
[18:59] <arrrghhh> nsouer, but syncing contacts and having mail pushed is the main reason most run exchange.  that and calendar syncing.
[18:59] <smw> cypher-neo, you asked about DNS...
[18:59] <jlk30> Just dled phpmyadmin with apache mysql etc. But now that I'm logged into PHPMyAdmin i get "Connection for controluser as defined in your configuration failed."
[18:59] <cypher-neo> smw, Sorry... up above I asked about a Chrome problem, and someone said DNS
[19:00] <jgcampbell300> i am seeing in zimba site a 60 day trial ... but i see no pricing ???
[19:00] <areon> hi all
[19:00] <cypher-neo> smw, I'm having a sudden problem with Google Chrome. When I click a link to download, the file sits in the download tray and acts like there is no connection at all (the remaining time registers infinity), and then Chrome closes.
[19:00] <arrrghhh> Ludo6431, looks like you've done some customizations on top of gnome... not being sure what you did, do you have this problem on vanilla ubuntu?
[19:00] <philinux> peggys_mouse: headset headphones work fine
[19:00] <jlk30> Anyone know what I can do to get rid of this error and how will this error effect it?
[19:00] <_mrb_> benjamin: I downloaded the proprietary stuff from nvidias site directly and ran the shell script according to their guide. http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/256.44/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-256.44.run
[19:00] <cypher-neo> smw, Chrome just started doing this, like... 2 hours ago.
[19:00] <smw> cypher-neo, no idea
[19:00] <_mrb_> benjamin: I run Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with a Geforce 880 GTX OC'd
[19:00] <benjamin_> _mrb: so the one from ubuntu didnt work for you?
[19:01] <_mrb_> benjamin_: no
[19:01] <arrrghhh> cypher-neo, i don't think chrome is final for linux yet is it?
[19:01] <lisa__> help! how do i connect to my router using ubuntu?
[19:01] <benjamin_> _mrb_: you also got the EDID message?
[19:01] <arrrghhh> lisa__, plug in a cable...?
[19:01] <deco> arrrghhh: not even on windows
[19:01] <lisa__> already plugged in
[19:01] <distant2> is there a software for defragmenting the disk?
[19:02] <_mrb_> benjamin_: I got all kinds of errors, and a big splash when I started Ubuntu in graphical mode that it didn't have the proper video-settings etc.
[19:02] <arrrghhh> deco, it's not beta for windows...
[19:02] <BluesKaj> cypher-neo,` torrent files ?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> distant2: its not needed with ext3 and ext4
[19:02] <z340> distant2: not necessary for extX, are you using ntfs?
[19:02] <cypher-neo> BluesKaj, What about torrent files?
[19:02] <arrrghhh> deco, it was actually one of the fastest beta-to-final product google has released i believe.
[19:02] <dri245> anyone knows if hamachi is usable with ubuntu? hamachi = virtual network
[19:02] <Oer> lisa__, check connection info, and use the 'gateway' ip to enter your router
[19:02] <pil> hello everyone - I am on lucid ubuntu - sometimes it freezes and I have to restart the computer because of that - it freezes especially when I am on the terminal and all of a sudden, it highlights the terminal inside and I cannot get out of there and from that point on, everything freezes - also it happens when I work with openoffice - does anybody have the same problem like mine?
[19:02] <benjamin_> _mrb_: hmm I think you have a different problem
[19:02] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: deco: Google chrome is out of beta for both Linux and Windows.
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> distant2: there are defrag tools for ext2 but the benefit is next to zero
[19:02] <benjamin_> _mrb_: my problem is that the EDID is not found and that it cant determine a modeline
[19:02] <BluesKaj> cypher-neo,`are you trying to DL torrents ?
[19:02] <_mrb_> benjamin_: well it won't hurt to run that script in console-mode and see if it makes any diff for you
[19:02] <distant2> z340: i don't know yet if i'm gonna dual boot or not, but in any case, yes, ntfs.
[19:03] <z340> pil: could be a number of things, are you using a 3rd party device driver?
[19:03] <cypher-neo> BluesKaj, If you're asking is that what I'm downloading, no, I'm not
[19:03] <benjamin_> well it takes time
[19:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:03] <benjamin_> and I only got very limited time left
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> distant2: ext3 is designed well rather than crappy ntfs which fragments like crazy
[19:03] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, so it is final for linux?  hmmm.... cypher-neo you may want to go into the chrome room for help.
[19:03] <benjamin_> but ok
[19:03] <cypher-neo> BluesKaj, I'm on deviantART trying to download a wallpaper pack.
[19:03] <distant2> but why does ext not need defrag? even after say 5 years use?
[19:03] <benjamin_> I try with 32bit version (that I first have to find)
[19:03] <Flannel> ted__: The alternate CD is the same installation process as the server CD, so no, you won't need to, assuming your home is on a separate partition
[19:03] <pil> z340: you think compiz does that?
[19:03] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: Yes.
[19:03] <arrrghhh> distant2, the FS cleans up itself.
[19:03] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, thanks for the info.
[19:03] <maco> distant2: its to do with the way things are arranged on disk
[19:03] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: You're welcome.
[19:04] <ted__> Flannel: It is...
[19:04] <Ludo6431> arrrghhh, what is a vanilla ubuntu ?
[19:04] <arrrghhh> distant2, defragmenting drives is a windows-only thing.
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> distant2: the journal keeps things nicely organised. Windows filesysytems simply sling data onto the drive as it finds space.
[19:04] <maco> distant2: http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[19:04] <benjamin_> hmm, no it takes too long I dont know the model etc
[19:04] <Flannel> ted__: Then yeah, you reinstall "around" your home partition
[19:04] <lisa__> so how do i connect wirelessly to my belkin router?
[19:04] <benjamin_> so how do I enter modelines etc manually?
[19:04] <arrrghhh> Ludo6431, as in no modifications to the system?  vanilla ubuntu?  fresh install, no changes made whatsoever?
[19:04] <BluesKaj> cypher-neo, click the download indicator box , save file , ...does it time out ?
[19:04] <dri245> anyone knows if hamachi is usable with ubuntu? hamachi = virtual network
[19:04] <ezrafree_> hi... does anyone know how i can get a Tenda 11N usb wifi adapter to work in ubuntu?
[19:04] <peggys_mouse> philinux: in sound prefs -> hardware. do you see a bunch of options there like "analog stereo duplex"?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> lisa__: use a wireless adapter and connect
[19:04] <ted__> Flannel: It's about 1/2 downloaded.
[19:04] <benjamin_> no help here
[19:04] <arrrghhh> dri245, hamachi works with ubuntu.
[19:04] <benjamin_> arg I just try and error
[19:04] <benjamin_> thanks for nothing
[19:04] <Ludo6431> arrrghhh, ok, i don't know, will try
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: the make and model are moot. You need to know the chip inside
[19:05] <arrrghhh> dri245, last i played with it, it was a little awkward to setup but it worked.
[19:05] <_mrb_> ... >_> hardly nothing when I gave him an option...
[19:05] <teunvD> lisa__ what kind of hardware are you using?
[19:05] <distant2> so what about the file system. which is the default on ubuntu and which is the best to use? i'm on a core2duo w/ 2gb ram.
[19:05] <_mrb_> he just chose not to do it
[19:05] <philinux> peggys_mouse: yep
[19:05] <arrrghhh> Ludo6431, just curious to see if you did something to your system to cause the behavior.
[19:05] <pil> z340: youthink compiz causes that problem?
[19:05] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: how can i find this info out?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,you will see the chip and can websearch for guides
[19:05] <peggys_mouse> philinux: have you tried changing those options?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> distant2, ext4
[19:06] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: thanks i'll try. may take a sec cause i have to switch my wireless keyboard over to that computer to do it, so brb :)
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: I'm betting is a broadcom 43xx as they are cheap and a lot of companies use them.
[19:06] <bhargav> Hi! This is my first irc message.
[19:06] <z340> pil: would probably be something other than compiz, but compiz could trigger it...ive got to run, can you check your logs and see if you get any additional info?  someone here could probably help you...i had a sim problem with my ati card on an old computer just the other day...best of luck
[19:06] <cmpsalvestrini> distant2: default fs for ubuntu is ext4 afaik. If you want to create other partitions for /home and so on you cna use a wide array of filesystems including reiser and jfs. imho ext4 is more than adequate though
[19:06] <aeon-ltd> bhargav: congratulations
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> !welcome | bhargav
[19:06] <bhargav> Thanks!!!
[19:06] <pil> z340:thanks alot
[19:07] <bhargav> Is there any guidelines to follow just to use it effectively?
[19:07] <ted__> Flannel: The sudo apt-get install shared-mime-info process still runs, and I can't kill(15) it.  Should I try a 9?
[19:07] <lisa__> i have a network adapter card already, this laptop worked with the router fine with xp. i don't know how to configure the connection using ubuntu?
[19:07] <arrrghhh> ted__, kill -9 will pretty much kill anything.
[19:08] <arrrghhh> lisa__, wired?  is it statically configured?  you should just be able to plug it in if it's dhcp.
[19:08] <Flannel> ted__: You're planning on reinstalling, so that won't cause any troubles
[19:08] <ben_q> hey, could someone be so kind and help me with a bash regex-problem.. I am desperately trying to match lines from lsof against something. but not even this: "if [[ $line =~ ".*" ]];" is returning anything true
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> lisa__: then run: sudo lshw -C network ,and this will show the chip. You can then websearch for guides. I also suggest you use a wired connection to get fully updated too
[19:08] <shaullx> «sacarlson» all i had to do is install grub from the livecd:)
[19:08] <shaullx> «sacarlson» now it works
[19:08] <synvilla> what was the name of the editing software? gimp? do I install in software centre or do I need to go out on the internet?
[19:08] <ted__> I know, but it's a cruel, heartless, and stupid way to get rid of a process because of unintended consequences.
[19:08] <arrrghhh> ben_q, there's a #bash room... may get more attention there.
[19:08] <Yadira> does anyone knows how to run lightscribe on terminal
[19:08] <ben_q> ok arrrghhh
[19:09] <ted__> Flannel: Thanks.  Kill -9 it is.
[19:09] <Yadira> please not the lacie aplication
[19:09] <Flannel> synvilla: The repositories have GIMP
[19:09] <lisa__> its plugged in now to a wired connection to the router but i need a wireless connection
[19:09] <Yadira> just lightscribe
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> synvilla: yes, it stands for (g)nu (I)mage (m)anipulation (p)roject
[19:09] <synvilla> Flannel: What's a repos...?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> !repo | synvilla
[19:09] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: where in this output would it say the chipset?
[19:09] <arrrghhh> synvilla, ubuntu installs basically everything thru repo's.  software center, synaptic, terminal are all places to install things from the repo's.
[19:09] <ted__> Flannel: it's gone :-~
[19:09] <Flannel> synvilla: The repositories are what contain the software that software center goes out and installs from.
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: the product line will say it
[19:09] <synvilla> I don't really wanna know how it works, just how to use it
[19:10] <jeremyn> enigmail with thunderbird likes to make a sound whenever it pops up a confirmation box on whether i want to send an email. how can i disable this sound?
[19:10] <teunvD> lisa__ is your wireless adapter working eg. are there networks in the list of the networkmanager (it's in the upper right corner)
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> !info gimp
[19:10] <arrrghhh> synvilla, it's basically a way to ensure no viruses or bad packages make their way into the system.  those links help you use it as well.
[19:10] <lisa__> yes
[19:10] <Flannel> synvilla: Short answer: yes, software center has gimp
[19:10] <arrrghhh> lisa__, can you see your wireless network?
[19:10] <synvilla> Flannel: that's all I needed to hear. installin' now
[19:10] <lisa__> yes
[19:10] <Oer> Yadira, lightscribe for ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe
[19:10] <ted__> arrrghhh: It did the trick...
[19:10] <PeterDrop> ActionParsnip: http://pencil.evolus.vn/en-US/Home.aspx , exactly what i want! very cool
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> synvilla: sudo apt-get install gimp ,will install it. You can then launch it from the graphics menu in the application menu
[19:10] <arrrghhh> ted__, it always does...
[19:10] <teunvD> lisa__ when you try to connect what happens?
[19:10] <babu__> wat's diff bn ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04..pls tell guys
[19:10] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: strange, i have a product: line on the first *-network (my wired adapter) but not on the second one for my usb wifi adapter
[19:11] <lisa__> nothing
[19:11] <synvilla> ActionParsnip: allready downloadin' it from software centre
[19:11] <lisa__> the icon pulses as if its working but no internet
[19:11] <arrrghhh> synvilla, pretty cool huh?
[19:11] <cypher-neo> babu__, They are basically the same, except 10.04 is the current stable LTS release.
[19:11] <ted__> Flannel: um...I couldn't find the Alternate CD, so I am downloading the Desktop CD.
[19:11] <benjamin_> what do I need to do to get x running with the "nvidia" driver if EDID doesnt work (it complains about not finding the EDID) so I manually want to specify it. I dont have that much time, I would just like to know what I need to add to xorg.conf to get it working...
[19:11] <Yadira> Oer, thats the lacie aplication
[19:11] <Yadira> i dont want that
[19:11] <teunvD> lisa__ what's the security on your wireless?
[19:11] <Yadira> i have that
[19:11] <synvilla> can someone tell me everything I need to know in order to get along with my computer?
[19:11] <Flannel> ted__: 10.04, for i386?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: ok then run: sudo iwlist scan ,does it find access points?
[19:12] <banished> Can I install a lucid version of an application on hardy? (just by downloading the .deb file and installing it)
[19:12] <ted__> amd64
[19:12] <arrrghhh> synvilla, that's a pretty broad statement.
[19:12] <ted__> Flannel: AMD64
[19:12] <lisa__> wep 128bit
[19:12] <synvilla> arrrghhh: I take that as a no, then
[19:12] <deco> banished: no
[19:12] <ted__> Flannel: What is what I have.
[19:12] <arrrghhh> synvilla, well i don't know how to answer that question.  i could write 1,000 pages on that.
[19:12] <ted__> s/What/Which/
[19:12] <Flannel> ted__: ted__ http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[19:12] <Yadira> i want to run on terminal the real lightscribe,,it is a command for that,,i had it before,,,someone here help me before and give me the command
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> synvilla: nobody can tell you that dude
[19:12] <distant2> i have a 160GB hard drive, but my actual use is this: i get it filled with downloaded files until it reaches 10% free space, then i free that up to get to say 20% then fill again... do you still think i wouldn't need defrag on linux?
[19:12] <teunvD> lisa__ have your tried pre-configuring the network in the edit connections menu?
[19:13] <banished> deco: why not?
[19:13] <lisa__> yes
[19:13] <Flannel> ted__: (http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ has them all)
[19:13] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: yes i have access points (mine and two others in the area) showing up from that command
[19:13] <synvilla> arrrghhh: do I really need to know 1000 pages of stuff to get along with my computer?
[19:13] <peggys_mouse> benjamin_: have you tried my suggestion?
[19:13] <ted__> Flannel: k. brb
[19:13] <BluesKaj> banished, no , you need the hardy version , otherwise you'll have brken dependencies etc
[19:13] <lisa__> but i don't know what to do when im there
[19:13] <deco> banished: they are compailed against newer libs
[19:13] <arrrghhh> synvilla, well i need to know how or in what way are you not 'getting along' with your computer?
[19:13] <benjamin_> peggys_mouse: what was your suggestion?
[19:13] <mikeru> hey
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> distant2: no, it will be fine. If you remove the journal so it is ext2 there are defrag tools for ext2 but you won't gain much at all
[19:14] <benjamin_> where you the one which suggested to download the driver from nvidia?
[19:14] <peggys_mouse> mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak and reboot
[19:14] <mikeru> how can I remove an accidental installation of GRUB2 into MBR?
[19:14] <mikeru> (I didn't mean to install it there)
[19:14] <benjamin_> I try but it wil fail
[19:14] <benjamin_> I know it and I will lose so much time
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: great then the hard bit is done. The OS has detected and installed the driver automagically
[19:14] <arrrghhh> distant2, i told you the FS cleans itself up.  ext3, ext4 - they do NOT need to be defragged.  doesn't matter the usage.
[19:14] <benjamin_> you really want me to do that?
[19:14] <synvilla> arrrghhh: well I assume there is more stuff about ubuntu I still haven't figured out
[19:14] <ted__> Flannel: <blush>You're right, as usual</blush>
[19:14] <benjamin_> all right bbl
[19:15] <lisa__> hello?
[19:15] <peggys_mouse> benjamin_: perhaps less time than sitting here and waiting for another answer.
[19:15] <philinux> peggys_mouse: yep nada
[19:15] <arrrghhh> synvilla, certainly, i as well.  but what are you trying to _do_?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: what interface does it say did the scan (scroll the terminal up) common names are wlan0 and ath0..
[19:15] <distant2> arrrghhh: well, ok!
[19:15] <peggys_mouse> philinux: sorry. that was my best guess
[19:15] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: it's wlan0
[19:15] <arrrghhh> distant2, that's a windows mindset :P
[19:15] <lisa__> WEP 128 bit
[19:15] <jgcampbell300> ok so i took another look at the software i have been looking at ... zimba , Open Xchange, and OpenChange ... seems that OpenChange is the only free one ... does anyone here have experience using any of these ... Have any suggestions/advice ?
[19:16] <statagem_bot> Hm, it seems my issue is more than just the nvidia driver.  I just changed my xorg to VESA instead of NVIDIA.  I get the login manager.  But once I type in my correct password, it flashes to a terminal and then just pops back up prompting for password again.  Any way I can see why I'm not able to login?
[19:16] <synvilla> arrrghhh: I just want to use my computer for normal stuff
[19:16] <philinux> peggys_mouse: loud click when pluggin in but silence from mic
[19:16] <Yadira> does anyone know how to run lightscribe on terminal
[19:16] <i2c> hello is there a way to install 9.10's default theme onto 10.04?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: ok that's good, so if you click on the network tool in the top right, do you see the access points?
[19:16] <synvilla> arrrghhh: and for work
[19:16] <distant2> linux doesn't need defrag, doesn't need antivirus, ... it's great.
[19:16] <teunvD> lisa__ is your ssid hidden?
[19:16] <Yadira> not lacie that 4l app is not good
[19:16] <statagem_bot> I'm running mythbuntu 10.04
[19:16] <lisa__> not that i know of
[19:16] <peggys_mouse> philinux: do other mic's work?
[19:16] <aeon-ltd> distant2: still needs a firewall though to prevent hijacking
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> distant2: there are viruses but they aren't wild.
[19:16] <PSX> Very fast
[19:16] <Yadira> u need antivirus if u share,,just to be on the safe side
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: not so much if you have a router
[19:17] <synvilla> are there linux antivirus thingys?
[19:17] <distant2> does the windows viruses/script affect linux? i don't think so but...
[19:17] <PSX> Idk
[19:17] <peggys_mouse> philinux: and does that mic work on other setups? windows?
[19:17] <PSX> Don't think u need it
[19:17] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: yes i can see the access point there as well
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> !av | synvilla
[19:17] <jolaren> my server goes into some sort of a lockdown mode after restart
[19:17] <mikeru> ActionParsnip, yet most of those viruses were in fact written for the authors of the exploited tool to notice, or for educational purposes.
[19:17] <aeon-ltd> ActionParsnip: couldn't hurt to have a router firewall and a local firewall :)
[19:17] <jolaren> it takes like 10 hours to connect after restart with ssh/vnc
[19:17] <Yadira> cantivirus is called clamav
[19:17] <teunvD> lisa__ what does it say at the product line when you run # lshw -C network
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> synvilla: they are good for file servers to stop windows client infecting each other
[19:17] <Yadira> is on sypnatic
[19:17] <distant2> in what form can those viruses be on linux? disguised as software?
[19:18] <benjamin_> ok, I tried the method of moving xorg.conf and rebooting and it didnt help at all
[19:18] <aeon-ltd> synvilla: there are virus scanners if you plan on sharing files with windows users
[19:18] <benjamin_> all it does is use the vesa driver which is absolute crap
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: bit ott, depends how extensive you tinfoil hat collection is
[19:18] <philinux> peggy only got ubuntu
[19:18] <peggys_mouse> benjamin_: is there an "nv" or "nvidia" line in the new config it created?
[19:18] <arrrghhh> synvilla, are you having trouble with anything in particular?
[19:18] <benjamin_> there is no config created
[19:18] <peggys_mouse> really? hm.
[19:18] <benjamin_> it used "vesa"
[19:18] <synvilla> I can admit that one of the reasons I stopped using windows was because I had a major software crash, caused by 12 viruses on my computer, and people told me I was too reckless to be a windows user
[19:18] <benjamin_> nto nvidia
[19:19] <statagem_bot> is there a log for GDM somewhere?
[19:19] <benjamin_> "nv" works but it also is crap
[19:19] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: but if i try to connect to it, it just tries to authenticate and then brings up the Authentication Required window again after awhile
[19:19] <ted__> Flannel: The one you specified is downloading.  Whee!  Only 700M. vs 710Mb.
[19:19] <benjamin_> besids "nv" doesnt allow a lot of settings
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> benjamin_: then rerun: sudo nvidia-xconfig ,to get a virgin file
[19:19] <benjamin_> yes that fails
[19:19] <benjamin_> I already tried this two days agi
[19:19] <i2c> hello is there a way to install 9.10's default theme onto 10.04?
[19:19] <ezrafree_> should "Mode" be set to Infrastructure or Ad Hoc
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: do you use any security on your wireless?
[19:19] <aeon-ltd> ActionParsnip: very, got 2000 variants inluding a sombrero. top that... heh heheh heh *shifty eyes*
[19:19] <benjamin_> I already told you it doesnt find the EDID
[19:20] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: yes, it's WPA WPA2 Personal
[19:20] <synvilla> arrrghhh: just wanting to get stuff set up
[19:20] <ted__> Flannel: But it's going at over 1Mb/sec instead of 800kb/sec
[19:20] <teunvD> i2c: what theme are you referring to?
[19:20] <benjamin_> so apparently I need to manually specify all the settings (which is of course bullshit but I dont have time)
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: try using wep, not all adapters can do wpa
[19:20] <benjamin_> so what settings do I need to specify where?
[19:20] <mikeru> distant2, you only need antivirus for windows viruses. they won't affect your system, but if a windows user somehow gets the infected files (e.g. usb drives or download from your linux server) they can get infected.
[19:20] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: i'm connected to it fine through the windows machine i am using to talk to you now
[19:20] <i2c> teunvD: the stock 9.10 theme, I think it was called human? let me find a a screenshot for you
[19:20] <synvilla> oh and another question. Currently I'm using utorrent via wine, is there a better solution?
[19:20] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: using the same card
[19:20] <ted__> Is KiB kilobytes or kilobits?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: I have one but I simply don't care
[19:20] <owen1> does alternate cd have live CD?
[19:20] <benjamin_> the thing is: either I get this working within the next 20 minutes or the user will switch to windows
[19:20] <aeon-ltd> synvilla: use a local native torrent client :)
[19:21] <synvilla> aeon-ltd: such as?
[19:21] <banished> owen1: no
[19:21] <lisa__> where do i type that in?
[19:21] <aeon-ltd> synvilla: rtorrent(if you like cli), transmission
[19:21] <benjamin_> I would hate for this to happen that is why I try to get this fixed quickly
[19:21] <arrrghhh> synvilla, ...ok what are you wanting to setup!!?!  like pulling teeth here.
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: windows is a different OS with different support so it doesn't make any difference what windows does or doesn't do
[19:21] <owen1> banished: sad )-: i can't run live CD on my macbookpro. it used to work on 9.10 but not on 10.4
[19:21] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: well the card definitely supports WPA WPA2 Personal, since it's working under that security method in another box
[19:21] <teunvD> i2c: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Human-Lucid?content=119546
[19:21] <smw>  synvilla there are many torrent programs native to linux
[19:21] <Pici> !torrent | synvilla
[19:21] <mikeru> distant2, therefore, they're for preventing the spread of them to other windows machines, if they're connected to your linux system...
[19:21] <banished> benjamin_: what happens when you just install the driver via the packet manager? Which card is it?
[19:21] <owen1> banished: i tried both ubuntu and xubuntu
[19:21] <synvilla> Well transmission wouldn't work
[19:21] <i2c> teunvD: this is what I'm talking about http://beta.seadvd.com/media/seadvd.com/2009/07/30_ubuntu-9.10-alpha3.jpg
[19:21] <i2c> ok let me try your link
[19:22] <mikeru> Transmission is also Qt, I believe
[19:22] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: so you're saying ubuntu won't support WPA/WPA2 Personal?
[19:22] <teunvD> i2c: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Human-Lucid?content=119546
[19:22] <Yadira> ktorrent is the best
[19:22] <statagem_bot> ActionParsnip: Is there a log for GDM somewhere that might tell me why I can't even login
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: it depends on the chip
[19:22] <synvilla> arrrghhh: you seem impatient. think of me as a five-year-old and you'll be fine.
[19:22] <smw> mikeru, nope, I think it is gtk
[19:22] <Yadira> u can search also inside the program for torrents
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> statagem_bot: set your password in root recovery console
[19:22] <mikeru> smw: there's also a Qt frontend.
[19:22] <aeon-ltd> synvilla: i suggest you learn to use rtorrent, its pretty good, considering you'd never look at your torrents anyway until there fully dl'ed and unarchived
[19:22] <mikeru> smw: and GTK, and web, and cocoa...
[19:23] <synvilla> Hm, should i try rtorrent then? is that via software centre too?
[19:23] <distant2> mikeru: but how come, is it possible for a linux av to identify windows viruses? they have their own logic right?
[19:23] <statagem_bot> ActionParsnip: my password is already set. I'm not sure I understand?
[19:23] <aeon-ltd> synvilla: yeah it should be in the repos
[19:23] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: and for some reason i can't figure out what chip this adapter uses... hmm
[19:23] <arrrghhh> synvilla, for ease i recommend tranmission.  you're just not being very specific.
[19:23] <synvilla> aeon-ltd: I actually stare at the downloading until it's done.
[19:23] <well_laid_lawn> +1 rtorrent
[19:23] <mikeru> smw, indeed there's a Qt one: http://www.transmissionbt.com/images/screenshots/Qt-Large.jpg
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> synvilla: I use transmission in a headless way then use transmission-gui on my lappy to control it
[19:23] <i2c> how do I do autocomplete on the command line? I thought it was the tab button?
[19:23] <smw> mikeru, you missed one. CLI FTW
[19:23] <Yadira> what are u looking for synvilla
[19:23] <teunvD> i2c: you can also look for the human-theme in synaptic
[19:23] <aeon-ltd> sno: hell yeah, you using irssi?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> statagem_bot: if you can't log in, you can reset the password so you know its good
[19:23] <statagem_bot> I  like utorrent in WINE.  They're apparently working on a native version of utorrent for linux though.
[19:23] <distant2> mikeru: and windows files (exes for example) are different from linux.
[19:23] <aeon-ltd> i2c: it is the tab key
[19:23] <mikeru> smw: oh noes! disgrace befall on me.
[19:24] <adi11> hi all. is anyone familiar with this graphic card here: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[19:24] <arrrghhh> don't get me wrong, i LOVE rtorrent.  just not so newbie friendly.
[19:24] <smw> mikeru, I don't really care, I use rtorrent on a headless server anyways :-P
[19:24] <synvilla> Ah
[19:24] <mikeru> distant2, yes. but they scan for .exes and know their internals.
[19:24] <synvilla> arrrghhh: are you asking me what I use utorrent for?
[19:24] <adi11> i am on karmic and cant make it higher than 900X690
[19:24] <lisa__> still there?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: lspci ,may tell you. You may have to dig around online. Try using wep instead. If that works then you know what the issue is
[19:24] <arrrghhh> synvilla, no, i know what you use utorrent for :P
[19:24] <adi11> i am shure it can get as high as xp
[19:24] <distant2> ok
[19:24] <mikeru> distant2, that's like saying openoffice can't open .doc files because they're from office.
[19:25] <mikeru> Microsoft Office®
[19:25] <distant2> yeah got ya
[19:25] <mikeru> *
[19:25] <adi11> anyone please. thanks
[19:25] <benjamin_> banished: you are not help, I dont have time to answer all those obvious standard questions all over again
[19:25] <arrrghhh> synvilla, i'm just asking you to be more specific.  instead of saying "set stuff up" or "for work" - let me know EXACTLY what you're having problems with.
[19:25] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: okay, i'll give it a shot. i really prefer the security of WPA to WEP though
[19:25] <statagem_bot> ActionParsnip: I'm not getting an "authentication failure" message.  if I do type in the wrong passwrod. it'll tell me.
[19:25] <teunvD> is rtorrent in the universe repository? i'd like to try it out
[19:25] <well_laid_lawn> !reolution | adi11
[19:25] <synvilla> well I don't have problems *yet*
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: poor support from hardware manufacturers dude
[19:25] <statagem_bot> ActionParsnip: it looks like it starts to do something and just throws me back to gdm.
[19:25] <well_laid_lawn> !resolution | adi11
[19:25] <arrrghhh> teunvD, it's definitely in the repo's.
[19:25] <statagem_bot> ActionParsnip: any logs for gdm you're aware of?
[19:26] <distant2> mikeru: then again, the reason i asked this is because most win av are buyable, while linux av have the same functionality for free...
[19:26] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: yeah, i know. and i'd buy a better card if i weren't so completely broke right now.
[19:26] <adi11> well laid lawn : yeah resolution on a crt monitor
[19:26] <ezrafree_> just trying to get my machine online again so i can work =/
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> statagem_bot: I've seen people mess with /tmp in recovery root, but unsure of specifics
[19:26] <statagem_bot> ActionParsnip: I did do a "passwd (name)" in console though and it didn't help
[19:26] <adi11> i am gettin mad with this F sis
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: if you have a buddy you could arrange a swapsie :)
[19:26] <ezrafree_> ActionParsnip: unfortunately i just moved to denver heh
[19:27] <ezrafree_> so i don't know anyone here except my roommates
[19:27] <lisa__> can u please help me connect to the internet wirelessly?
[19:27] <i2c> teunvD: thanks I'm all working now
[19:27] <jwendell> hi, folks. How do I tell a service not to start automatically in Lucid? (for instance, mysql or ssh server)
[19:27] <mikeru> distant2, well... the people working behind clamav wanted to make it free. plus, right now a company is paying for their work, and infact it's installed & used in some professional routers.
[19:27] <arrrghhh> ezrafree_, welcome!  i live in denver too :D
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> adi11: those cards need an xorg.conf to play nice and I doubt you will get 3d accelleration (no compiz)
[19:27] <ezrafree_> arrrghhh nice! thanks man
[19:27] <ezrafree_> know any web development companies hiring? hehe
[19:27] <ezrafree_> i live in DTC
[19:27] <peggys_mouse> benjamin_: you must be a very important person to  be so busy. sounds like more important than anyone else here.
[19:27] <ezrafree_> been scouring craigslist but no luck so far
[19:28] <mikeru> anyone here with an EFI machine? I'd like to know why efifb takes soooooooooooo long to load. The grub screen stays there for 10 seconds, then 1 second of plymouth and straight to X
[19:28] <adi11> action parsnip : i allready have gonne through the xorg.conf  . i just want a better resolution. no 3d
[19:28] <arrrghhh> ezrafree_, we are but not for web development...
[19:28] <i2c> does anyone notice that using a usb mouse with linux is just different than windows? I can't explain it, but the way it moves, it's just different (no wise jokes please I know that sounded silly) I like the way windows moves it's mouse better, does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
[19:28] <Pici> ezrafree_: this channel is only for Ubuntu support.  #ubuntu-us-co would be more relevant, it sthe Colorado LoCo team.
[19:28] <benjamin_> peggys_mouse: that doesnt help me one bit either
[19:28] <Oer> mikeru macbook ?
[19:28] <benjamin_> I only have 10 minutes left to fix it
[19:28] <ezrafree_> Pici: ahh nice, thanks for the advice
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: run: dmesg | less ,when you get logged in. Look for large time gaps in the lefthand colomn
[19:29] <benjamin_> then I have to format the linux system, it is not my pc and I am really disappointed about the support here
[19:29] <aeon-ltd> i2c: its black on white? instead of white on black?
[19:29] <mikeru> Oer, yup
[19:29] <ezrafree_> arrrghhh: may i message you?
[19:29] <benjamin_> I asked a very specific question what I get back are standard questions that I all tried looong ago and that dont work
[19:29] <arrrghhh> benjamin_, how much did you pay for this support?
[19:29] <aeon-ltd> i2c: the sensitivity is about the same unless you like it rreally fast
[19:29] <benjamin_> I just compare it to the old days
[19:29] <arrrghhh> ezrafree_, sure.  you may want to ghost your other nick as well ;)
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> adi11: then add the resolutions you want in the screen section. Use tab to complete nicks too
[19:29] <benjamin_> where people knew what they were talking about
[19:29] <mikeru> ActionParsnip, [    4.057471] generic-usb 0003:05AC:820B.0005: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [HID 05ac:820b] on usb-0000:00:06.0-1.3/input0
[19:29] <mikeru> [   30.501102] udev: starting version 151
[19:30] <mikeru> from 4 jumps to 30
[19:30] <peggys_mouse> benjamin_: perhaps we can all quit our jobs to focus on serving you better, since you are so nice about the free help we are trying to provide. it would complete my life.
[19:30] <ezrafree_> arrrghhh: yeah heh it's set up in a screen i can't get to atm
[19:30] <benjamin_> you dont help at all
[19:30] <benjamin_> I dont want to waste anymore useless time here
[19:30] <benjamin_> thx for nothing bye
[19:30] <ted__> Flannel: I have ubuntu-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso now.
[19:30] <statagem_bot> geeze
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: any other jumps. Sounds like your mouse takes a while to wake up
[19:30] <xangua> !attitude > benjamin_
[19:30] <i2c> aeon-ltd: I do have it decently fast on windows, however on linux even on the default speed it seems I'm not nearly as accurate, I 'overshoot' where I'm aiming to click when I move the cursor, it's very hard to explain but I don't like ubuntu's mouse...call me a whiner I guess
[19:30] <lisa__> i still need help with configuring a wireless connection
[19:30] <Sandje> ungratefull people i hate it
[19:30] <peggys_mouse> what can you do?
[19:31] <brandini> lisa__: me too
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Sandje: +1 dude
[19:31] <brandini> it seems to trunk my onboard with my pcmcia
[19:31] <adi11> action parsnip: this is my xorg.conf  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/477567/
[19:31] <Sandje> ty :-)
[19:31] <peggys_mouse> i'm glad you all are here to help when i need it. even if i don't find a solution every time.
[19:31] <mikeru> ActionParsnip, the internal trackpad?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> lisa__: if you run: sudo iwlist scan ,do you see access points?
[19:31] <peggys_mouse> like today ;)
[19:31] <mikeru> ActionParsnip, there's [   44.637530] Bluetooth: HIDP (Human Interface Emulation) ver 1.2
[19:31] <mikeru> [   61.371993] input: Mikel's Magic Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/usb4/4-1/4-1.1/4-1.1:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:11/input12
[19:31] <mooglenorph> Hi all. Trying to remove ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-netbook with aptitude purge only removes THAT package, and not all the depends.
[19:31] <mikeru> ActionParsnip, but that's while in X
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: possibly, keep hunting. You may need a bios upgrade
[19:31] <brandini> ActionParsnip: if I plug in my rt2860 and disable my hw radio on my laptop my rt2860 doesn't work
[19:32] <adi11> ActionParsnip : where to add the resolution?
[19:32] <mikeru> adi11, he just left
[19:32] <mooglenorph> So I'm still trying to figure out how to get rid of gnome and the netbook UI
[19:32] <adi11> ah thats ok
[19:32] <b3li3v3> I am interested in developing Transmission, the bittorrent client, where do I join?
[19:32] <PSX> hey
[19:32] <brandini> is there anything special I need to do when I update my kernel when I'm dual booting letting windows manage the bootloader?
[19:32] <tucemiux> mooglenorph, you dont get rid or gnome, you just dont use it
[19:32] <mikeru> b3li3v3, not here.
[19:33] <PSX> n e 1 here now how to copy ps2 games
[19:33] <brandini> because ubuntu won't boot afterwords
[19:33] <PSX> make copys
[19:33] <teunvD> mooglenorph: do you want to use xfce or what are you trying to achieve?
[19:33] <wildc4rd> evening all
[19:33] <tucemiux> b3li3v3, this is ubuntu support, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:33] <PSX> ALso my PS3 got YLOD yesterday
[19:33] <ezrafree_> what was that channel, #ubuntu-co-us ?
[19:33] <lisa__> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[19:33] <lisa__> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[19:33] <lisa__> eth1      No scan results
[19:33] <mikeru> b3li3v3, try looking for a contact page in http://www.transmissionbt.com/
[19:33] <mooglenorph> teunvD: I want to use just xmonad, and no login manager
[19:33] <rooks> how to get information on what version of package is installed?
[19:33] <adi11> is there anyone to help me with a xorg.conf  sis graphic card and xorg?
[19:34] <Pici> rooks: apt-cache policy packagename
[19:34] <adi11> just some resolution problems
[19:34] <rooks> thx
[19:34] <aeon-ltd> PSX: i don't think theres an ISO ripper for linux, ask in  #windows
[19:34] <PSX> Sound card is set wayy to loud
[19:34] <mikeru> hey, a barcode generator program?
[19:34] <brandini> man, this channel has a very high noise/help ratio
[19:34] <aeon-ltd> PSX: tailored for ps2 games anyway
[19:34] <migster> question: I am compiling a C++ program and I don't have root access to the machine. So I compiled gcc from source entirely. What do I need to link to the compiler to tell it where to look for libraries and where to look for runtime libraries?
[19:34] <ted__> lisa__: ifconfig?
[19:34] <Rogue1> aeon-ltd: Ubuntu supports ripping ISOs by default
[19:34] <s5fs> migster, ask the admin
[19:34] <Rogue1> IIRC
[19:35] <teunvD> mooglenorph i have no experience with that window manager, if you install it can you select it on the login screen?
[19:35] <mikeru> PSX, ubuntu does support ripping ISOs
[19:35] <PSX> K thanks
[19:35] <lisa__>           inet addr:192.168.2.5  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[19:35] <lisa__>           inet6 addr: fe80::212:3fff:fe1e:7df8/64 Scope:Link
[19:35] <lisa__>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[19:35] <lisa__>           RX packets:4703 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[19:35] <lisa__>           TX packets:3805 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[19:35] <lisa__>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[19:35] <FloodBot2> lisa__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <_DGM_> PSX: im sure you'll find something about it if you google :)
[19:35] <PSX> :) Tried but
[19:35] <PSX> Im not that good at it
[19:35] <adi11> this is my lspci: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[19:35] <PSX> Im new to Linux and WIndows
[19:36] <PSX> too complicated
[19:36] <mikeru> PSX: Right click the disc, select Copy Disc, then Copy disc to: [Fi
[19:36] <mikeru> PSX: Right click the disc, select Copy Disc, then Copy disc to: [File Image          ]
[19:36] <adi11> anyone had advantures on this sis
[19:36] <PSX> Did it b4... Too much error
[19:36] <_DGM_> google tip: be specific but not too specific, dont use sentences, but only keywords. its a good idea to avoid plural
[19:36] <PSX> s
[19:36] <mooglenorph> teunvD: I'd prefer to get rid of the login manager and GNOME desktop, and just use startx.
[19:36] <ted__> lisa__: What's 192.168.2.5 on? eth0, eth1, ...?
[19:36] <mooglenorph> teunvD: as I'm never going to use them
[19:36] <Rogue1> PSX, right-click the ISO in Ubuntu and you should have an option similar to "write to disc" or "write to cd" ... select that, choose the correct drive, speed, etc. and away you go
[19:37] <ted__> Flannel: I have the Alternate CD now.
[19:37] <_DGM_> Rogue1: he wants to make an iso from a cd from what i gather :)
[19:37] <arrrghhh> mooglenorph, are you running a headless server?
[19:37] <mikeru> PSX: actually it's quite easy. you just right click the DVD icon and select copy disc. and if you want to burn an iso, do as Rougue1 says.
[19:37] <lisa__> eth0
[19:37] <PSX> mikeru: Thanks
[19:37] <jolaren> exit
[19:37] <PSX> Got it
[19:37] <PSX> xD
[19:37] <mooglenorph> arrrghhh: no, a netbook. and I'm using UNR because I assume that the kernel for UNR is different?
[19:37] <mooglenorph> arrrghhh: if that's not true, I'll just install server edition on my netbook and install X packages from there, and then the WM that I like
[19:38] <aeon-ltd> mooglenorph: it might have a few more modules but i doubt its drastically different
[19:38] <arrrghhh> mooglenorph, i don't believe so, the kernels are the same.  same goes for server, unless you're running 64-bit.
[19:38] <ted__> lisa__: Do you know about nmap, the port scanner?
[19:38] <lisa__> no
[19:38] <Oer> adi11, maybe this answes is any help > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8657260&postcount=2
[19:38] <qjcg> how can i pass an environment variable to program launched via a desktop icon? what i want to do is basically "LC_ALL=C progname"
[19:38] <arrrghhh> qjcg, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[19:39] <mooglenorph> aeon-ltd: is there any changelog or diff or something that I could consult? to see what the differences actually are between UNR and normal ubuntu? because it would be way less hassle to not have to remove this stuff.
[19:39] <qjcg> arrrghhh: thanks, checking
[19:39] <banished> qjcg: you can edit the "icon"'s settings
[19:39] <qjcg> banished: right, but putting "LC_ALL progname" in the exec line doesn't work
[19:39] <aeon-ltd> mooglenorph: not sure, maybe you should try googling for package lists of each version, though comparing them would take a while
[19:40] <lisa__> what is nmap port scanner?
[19:40] <mooglenorph> aeon-ltd: yeah, I've been looking at that... I was hoping for a centralized, summary type thing
[19:40] <JackWoot> is there a difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[19:40] <s5fs> lisa__, nmap.org
[19:40] <Oer> JackWoot, yes, aptitude will be removed in the next maverick 10.10
[19:40] <teunvD> JackWoot: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[19:40] <Raydiation> hm why does vlc quit when i jump to a different position in a video?
[19:41] <arrrghhh> s5fs, nmap is in the repo's/
[19:41] <JackWoot> ok thanks
[19:41] <Raydiation> mkv issue only
[19:41] <lisa__> what am i looking for?
[19:41] <ted__> s5fs: That's a confusing site for a beginner...so is man nmap.  Can you just give an example?  I can't... :-(
[19:41] <PSX> Hey I have a question
[19:41] <s5fs> arrrghhh, the question was "what is nmap", i think their website does a pretty good job of explaining what it is.
[19:42] <coz_> PSX,  spit it out :)
[19:42] <ted__> Flannel: How do I get the .iso to the USB drive?
[19:42] <s5fs> lisa__, nmap is a port scanner and generally useful tool for scanning networks to identify hosts, etc.
[19:42] <s5fs> lisa__, what is your interest in nmap?
[19:42] <Rogue1> ted__: Unetbootin?
[19:42] <erUSUL> !unetbootin
[19:42] <PSX> Is there a program for Live Satellite
[19:43] <qjcg> anyone? i could create a script specifying the variable, but I'm wondering if it setting an environment variable can be done from within a .desktop file
[19:43] <PSX> or is that like
[19:43] <ted__> Rogue1: Is it simple, like for one who hasn't done it before?
[19:43] <lisa__> im just trying to make a wireless connection to my belkin router
[19:43] <PSX> Illigal
[19:43] <banished> PSX: like in Sattelite TV?
[19:43] <PSX> Yeah
[19:43] <aeon-ltd> ted__: dd
[19:43] <PSX> Like google earth
[19:43] <PSX> Exept it live
[19:43] <banished> ?
[19:44] <aeon-ltd> PSX: you have a satellite?
[19:44] <PSX> LOL No
[19:44] <_DGM_> satalites and google earth dont have too much in common :P
[19:44] <aeon-ltd> PSX: yeah its illegal
[19:44] <ted__> OK...which? dd or Unetbootin
[19:44] <PSX> I knew that
[19:44] <_DGM_> aeon-ltd: not if you pay for the lisence
[19:44] <arrrghhh> s5fs, my bad.  damn room moves so fast ;)
[19:44] <aeon-ltd> PSX: in most countries heh heh heh
[19:44] <teunvD> google earth aren't satalite images, mostly aircraft photographs
[19:44] <PSX> lol
[19:44] <ted__> aeon-ltd: and what parameters to dd?
[19:44] <PSX> It b cool tho
[19:44] <Ileden> Hi! How can I make sudo not ask for a password when editing rfcomm binds with command "sudo rfcomm bind" and "sudo rfcomm release"? I've tried editing the /etc/sudoers file to set /usr/bin/rfcomm to NOPASSWD but that doesn't seem to work. Then again, I'm not very good with /etc/sudoers... Any ideas how to proceed?
[19:45] <banished> PSX: there are unlikely publicly accessable sattelites and googles images are usually taken by plane
[19:45] <_DGM_> google earth is nothing special, nasa had a program exactly like it years before google
[19:45] <aeon-ltd> ted__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles#Ubuntu do the cli part
[19:45] <PSX> Can track down people and your friends and scare them
[19:45] <teunvD> Ileden why would you want to do that?
[19:45] <adi11> Oer : thanks for the link. i downloaded and put  it on the drivers folder. i will now log out let see if this one works...
[19:45] <coz_> Ileden,  no sure what it will do but you could change permissions on the file
[19:45] <mikeru> Satellite TV is illegal???!!!
[19:46] <aeon-ltd> mikeru: no he meant spy satellites basically
[19:46] <Pici> PSX: Please stay on topic, this channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[19:46] <aeon-ltd> mikeru: maybe in china
[19:46] <_DGM_> mikeru: no, but you need a decoder to watch them. And you need a lisence.. as its not free. So using a decoder without paying would be illegal
[19:46] <Pici> !ot
[19:46] <PSX> Ok no problem.
[19:46] <Ileden> teunvD: I have a script I use to connect to net via Phone GPRS, and it requires me to do a rfcomm binding. I would like to be able to run that script without having to type my password every time.
[19:46] <lisa__> i guess no knows how to configure a wireless connection on here.
[19:46]  * Potato_ Hates Microsoft.
[19:46] <aeon-ltd> Ileden: change permissions
[19:46] <_DGM_> Potato_: dont be a hater.
[19:46] <teunvD> Ileden through what user does you phone run the script?
[19:46] <Potato_> xD
[19:47] <mikeru> ahh-- sorry but I don't see the connection between spy satellites and ubuntu... how did he get there o_o?
[19:47] <PSX> Every OS isn't perfect.
[19:47] <Ileden> coz_: I'm not sure that helps, the /usr/bin/rfcomm is already accessible, but certain actions require sudo rights
[19:47] <Flannel> Ileden: Adding that command to your sudoers (editing it with visudo) would be the way to go.  Have you seen this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[19:47] <arrrghhh> lisa__, what do you mean?  i thought you said you could see your network?  click on it, connect to it...?
[19:47] <mikeru> Potato_, *Everyone Hates Microsoft
[19:47] <Flannel> Ileden: Specifically, the "shutdown without a password" would be immediately relevant
[19:47] <Questinerboi> o. Am I able to access the TTY consoles from the X11 terminal?
[19:47] <_DGM_> microsoft's visual studio is actually one of the best existing ide's.. where linux ide's are seriously lacking
[19:47] <banished> eclipse is not that bad after all
[19:47] <coz_> Ileden,   mm then I am not sure   you could try   ##Linux channel   they seem to have a broader base of info across linux
[19:47] <Pici> !ot | _DGM_
[19:48] <lisa__> no, it won't connect to the internet
[19:48] <_DGM_> eclipse is a horror... and so is java
[19:48] <Ileden> Flannel: I'm not sure if I've read that, I'll take a look. Thanks!
[19:48] <b3li3v3> Hi Lisa, Did you add the HWaddr of your laptop to the router?
[19:48] <lisa__> not wirelessly
[19:48] <arrrghhh> lisa__, that's real specific.
[19:48] <mikeru> _DGM_, it's the best IDE for linux though
[19:48] <_DGM_> mikeru: i disagree. I'd rather use codeblocks or vim
[19:48] <Ileden> coz_: thanks for the suggestion, I'll try that if I can't get it working here...
[19:48] <_DGM_> or anjuta
[19:48] <_DGM_> those 3 are all better then eclipse
[19:48] <janicko> sacarlson: are you here?
[19:48] <ted__> aeon-ltd: I have an .iso file; do I need to get an .img file?
[19:49] <mikeru> _DGM_, ohhh anjuta is soooooo buggy. I'll never ever use it again.
[19:49] <b3li3v3> I basically added it from a working computer
[19:49] <adi11> Oer: it didnt work :(
[19:49] <lisa__> i don't know what u need to know, iv never used ubuntu
[19:49] <Pici> _DGM_, mikeru: #ubuntu is only for support, if you want to chat, feel free to do so  in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:49] <adi11> i am still on 900X690
[19:49] <coz_> Ileden,  cool... as I said they may have a broader base of working knowledge
[19:49] <aeon-ltd> ted__: probably not, but what do you iintend to do with the isos?
[19:49] <Ileden> aeon-ltd, coz_ : what should the permissions be? The /usr/bin/rfcomm is owned by root, but it does have global execute rights.
[19:50] <ted__> aeon-ltd: install desktop ubuntu 10.04
[19:50] <PSX> When you move a window near another one it looks as if its riping it. Is this normal?
[19:50] <arrrghhh> lisa__, i keep losing you in the mix, so i can't really help you without more info.
[19:50] <coz_> Ileden,  that sounds appropriate but I am not sure as I said
[19:50] <lisa__> like what info do u need?
[19:50] <banished> PSX: can you take a screenshot of this?
[19:50] <PSX> Yes
[19:50] <_DGM_> PSX: install the compizconfig settings manager. In there you can change all that behaviour really easily
[19:50] <PSX> Ok thank you.
[19:51] <SinnerSaved> hy all
[19:51] <arrrghhh> lisa__, since you're not using my name can i PM you?
[19:51] <_DGM_> PSX: and it lets you do really cool things like 3D cube desktop and all that sort of thing
[19:51] <aeon-ltd> ted__: i think ubuntu uses hybrid isos now(can't confirm), but for usb sticks img is reccomended
[19:51] <lisa__> PM?
[19:51] <mikeru> PSX: 'sudo apt-get install ccsm' (or software center then search for ccsm install compizconfig settings manager)
[19:51] <ted__> aeon-ltd: I'll check it out.
[19:51] <mikeru> PSX: after that, open it, go to General
[19:52] <b3li3v3> lisa: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:52] <lisa__> 10.04
[19:52] <mikeru> PSX, select tab Display Settings and click Sync to VBlank
[19:52] <xerox1> i am trying to play a video dvd on a 64 bit ubuntu 9.10; i can see the copyright warning etc, but not the video itself; on 32 bit i used win32codec & libdvdcss2; what to do?
[19:52] <lisa__> 10.04
[19:52] <mikeru> PSX, if you're using an Nvidia card I'd highly recommend to uncheck Detect Refresh Rate and move the slider to 60
[19:52] <JK3MP> PSX: Be sure you don't need proprietary graphics drivers. If so make sure you install and enable them. System > Administration > Hardware Drivers ??
[19:53] <aeon-ltd> Ileden: wait if its in /usr/bin you can set all users to execute that in the /etc/sudoers file, (edit with visudo)
[19:53] <xerox1> normally totem told me, which codecs are missing; not now
[19:53] <PSX> Yes I am
[19:53] <mikeru> JK3MP, there's no way he would be using compiz otherwise
[19:53] <PSX> It works fine just that with some programs
[19:53] <PSX> when you drag it
[19:53] <JK3MP> mikeru Oh wasn't aware he was using effects. Sorry. lol
[19:53] <PSX> it freezes
[19:53] <PSX> LIke it lags
[19:53] <mikeru> PSX, did you even look at my explanation?
[19:53] <Potato_> Why use a GUI?
[19:53] <Potato_> xD
[19:53] <lisa__> i am using the 10.04 version
[19:54] <Potato_> Terminals dont lag.
[19:54] <PSX> Im trying
[19:54] <Ileden> Flannel: I have the NOPASSWD definition set for /usr/bin/rfcomm as the link suggests, so unfortunately no help :(
[19:54] <PSX> Not the terminals
[19:54] <aeon-ltd> Potato_: but framebuffers do lag
[19:54] <Potato_> I know
[19:54] <Potato_> Right
[19:54] <ted__> aeon-ltd: .img files are for the netbook-armel processors.
[19:54] <b3li3v3> Lisa: Try this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/connecting-wireless.html
[19:54] <ascheel> Does Ubuntu periodically clean out /tmp?  If so, what process handles it?
[19:54] <ted__> lisa__: Good version ;)
[19:54] <aeon-ltd> ted__: ok, use the iso then
[19:55] <b3li3v3> Lisa: This is the basic guide.
[19:55] <banished> ascheel: every time you boot it gets emptied
[19:55] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! How do I open multiple tabs in a tty shell?
[19:55] <Ileden> aeon-ltd: I've tried setting NOPASSWD for it in /etc/sudoers, but it doesn't work
[19:55] <azuma>  #ubuntu-it
[19:55] <ascheel> banished: Thanks.  :)  Do you know what process handles it?
[19:55] <Zol> I'm trying to setup VNC on my local network at home.
[19:55] <Zol> I've installed x11vnc, I use the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC#Guide to example scenarios
[19:55] <well_laid_lawn> econdudeawesome: use screen
[19:55] <ted__> aeon-ltd: What are/were the dd parameters?
[19:56] <well_laid_lawn> 1info screen | econdudeawesome
[19:56] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: what does that mean? I can't--gui is broken, can't fix (that's my next problem to address)
[19:56] <well_laid_lawn> !info screen | econdudeawesome
[19:56] <saby> how can i extract split archives in ubuntu
[19:56] <xangua> ascheel: every 30 days i believe
[19:56] <econdudeawesome> nice
[19:56] <ascheel> xangua: Thanks.  :)
[19:56] <Flannel> Ileden: try adding this in there: ileden ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/rfcomm
[19:56] <Zol> I've started x11vnc with the command "x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0", it says The VNC desktop is:      localhost:1, PORT=5901
[19:56] <PSX> Oh I am soo dumb I didn't activate the drivers.
[19:56] <Zol> But the guide says I should use port 5900?
[19:56] <PSX> Nvm.
[19:56] <Zol> Should I use 5901 instead?
[19:57] <Flannel> Ileden: and then save it (remember to edit with visudo), and then sudo -k (to clear your cached password) and then `sudo rfcomm`
[19:57] <saby> how can i extract split archives in ubuntu
[19:57] <jk_> ascheel: it's in RAM, not on disk, so goes away automagically when you reboot
[19:57] <Jordan_U> saby: Do you mean files that have been split with the terminal utility "split"?
[19:57] <andrew__> is this the supprort channel for karmic koala?
[19:57] <Flannel> andrew__: Yes
[19:57] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: So I'm giving #lubuntu a try, but I have more of a GNOME questions. What happens if gdm and gnome-desktop-settings "breaks"? As in, won't fully install on an upgrade?
[19:58] <banished> jk_: /tmp/ isn't mapped to ram, that'd be a huge waste
[19:58] <xerox1> no one watching video dvds on 9.10 & 64 bit?
[19:58] <ted__> Flannel: You're back!  aeon-ltd suggested dd to transfer the .iso to the USB drive.  Can you tell me what parameters to use?  Or Unetbootin.
[19:58] <econdudeawesome> xerox1: try VLC and make sure you have the codecs installed
[19:58] <saby> Jordan_U, rar files with extension .r00, .r01..... .r13
[19:58] <ascheel> jk_: So it's using a ramdisk?  Thank you.
[19:58] <PSX> Thanks for the help. :)
[19:58] <jk_> banished: isn't that where type tmpfs lives?
[19:58] <andrew__> is there a wlaay to get google chrome on karmic koa
[19:58] <well_laid_lawn> econdudeawesome: you can to try and remove them then install ubuntu-desktop again
[19:58] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: is there any way to fix the packages? Aptitude, dpkg and apt-get all give me crazy errors
[19:58] <xerox1> econdudeawesome, if you could tell me which codecs i would do a happy-dance!
[19:59] <Jordan_U> saby: I believe file roller ("archive manager") can deal with them but I've never tried myself.
[19:59] <Jordan_U> !rar | saby
[19:59] <econdudeawesome> :-) xerox1 I'm not fully sure--I usually just install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and leave it at that
[19:59] <ted__> lisa__: Unless the Belkin is an older model, it seems as though it should 'just work'.  Perhaps the drivers are not present/working.  Someone else will have to help you with that.  Just a thought.
[19:59] <econdudeawesome> xerox1: vlc works fine for me after that in 9.10 x64
[19:59] <well_laid_lawn> econdudeawesome: does   sudo apt-get install -f   do anything?
[19:59] <xpuser> is it necessary to encrypt your /home to secure your computer?
[19:59] <Ileden> Flannel: that's pretty much what I have there, but I'll try that exactly
[19:59] <saby> thank you :)
[20:00] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: sudo apt-get install -f <packages> then? Let me give it a shot
[20:00] <xerox1> econdudeawesome, ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version...
[20:00] <stack> hi , what theme provides the standard black ubuntu theme?
[20:00] <well_laid_lawn> econdudeawesome: try it with no packages first
[20:00] <Flannel> ted__: The same method you used for your server install should work just fine.
[20:00] <xpuser> is it necessary to encrypt your /home to secure your computer? why is there c code keep appearing in my home directory?
[20:00] <stack> erhm , what package
[20:00] <ted__> Flannel: I used a DVD.
[20:00] <stack> not theme
[20:01] <prower> hello :> for anyone who's used to building packages -- is there a way to specify to dpkg-buildpackage that you want all files to be installed to /usr/local rather than the default /usr? or is that done another way?
[20:01] <Matthes> hello, i have nearly no sound at my ubuntu 10.4 system
[20:01] <ted__> Flannel: So, write the iso to a cd and boot from that, then?
[20:01] <Ileden> Flannel: btw, what's the deal with editing with visudo? I did accidentally edit the file with "sudo nano" once, can this cause the problem (I have rebooted since)
[20:01] <Flannel> ted__: Ah, and no more discs?  Alternate/Server CDs and USBs aren't straightforward.
[20:01] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: will do
[20:01] <Matthes> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550797
[20:01] <Flannel> ted__: That's the most reliable method, yes.
[20:01] <adi11> hi. is there anyone familiar with sis graphics cards in ubuntu?
[20:01] <ted__> Flannel: I have DVDs and a DVD writer.
[20:01] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: I get a dpkg error status 2
[20:02] <Flannel> ted__: that'll work just fine
[20:02] <adi11> i mean  resolution problems with sis
[20:02] <ted__> Flannel: ...and a command line... no fancy GUI for the appliance operators.
[20:02] <well_laid_lawn> econdudeawesome: there would have been errors mentioned earlier in the output
[20:02] <Flannel> Ileden: visudo does a syntax check on the file when you save it.  A single syntax error can render you unable to sudo, so having that extra layer of protection is a good idea :)
[20:02] <xerox1> dvd-error:  dvdnav demux error: cannot set title (can't decrypt DVD?)
[20:03] <Flannel> Ileden: visudo isnt an editor, its a wrapper around your default editor that does the syntax cehcking (and calls your editor)
[20:03] <Matthes> xerox1: I think I have similar problems, but I couldn't fix it
[20:03] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: yes
[20:03] <Ileden> Flannel: makes sense :)
[20:03] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: im in tty shell and pretty unfamiliar with it--not sure how to cut for a pastebin via elinks
[20:04] <Matthes> xerox1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[20:04] <janicko> could i have help to set up my wireless router? It is recognized, even it say it is connected, but i am not able to go on internet...
[20:04] <well_laid_lawn> !pastebinit | econdudeawesome
[20:04] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: aptitude reports a broken package... how to fix?
[20:05] <Parmenides> hi everybody
[20:05] <coz_> Parmenides,  hey guy
[20:05] <well_laid_lawn> econdudeawesome: the   sudo apt-get install -f   command is supposed to do that
[20:06] <Parmenides> i would like to know if anybody knows how to install in a 2Gb microsd card an Ubuntu, in order to install afterwards ros (robot operating system)
[20:06] <Ileden> Flannel: Well, well, it seems that your line works! I apparently had some mistake. :) Thanks a lot!
[20:06] <breakneck> hello
[20:06] <sierranevadan> apt-get install ipython is somehow depending on X11 now. Can I install ipython with apt and tell it not to install things that require X11?
[20:06] <banished> Is it possible to get a list of all packages that would be downloaded by a upgrade between two ubuntu versions?
[20:06] <xerox1> Matthes, thx, i think if done everything of that; maybe i'll do a really old windows trick: rebooting...let's see
[20:07] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: it wont...
[20:07] <Flannel> Ileden: If you want to give more users the ability, you'll want to substitute out your username for a group (per that page) with all of the users in it
[20:07] <qjcg> anyone know how I can set an environment variable in a .desktop file?
[20:07] <Flannel> banished: Sure, but not in a single line (well, unless you just make it one long line with a few commands in it)
[20:07] <banished> Parmenides: what do you mean by 'install in a microsd card'?
[20:08] <banished> Flannel: what would I do?
[20:08] <Ileden> Flannel: not necessary, I'm the only user of the computer. Thanks, though.
[20:08] <well_laid_lawn> econdudeawesome: I don't know what to do when that command doesn't work sorry - someone else will
[20:08] <Parmenides> i would like to have Ubuntu installed in a microsd card, literally. It's for a quadcopter, and people has asked me to have it. It should be able to boot, of course
[20:08] <coz_> qjcg,  what do you want to change ?
[20:09] <banished> Parmenides: which CPU does the target use?
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Parmenides: You can use unetbootin to make a bootable microsd card with Ubuntu.
[20:09] <Flannel> banished: make sure you're completely up to date (which is what you want to do before any version change): sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then edit your sources.list to be the next version (this is only temporary, we'll be moving this back later), then sudo apt-get update to fetch the info, then sudo apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade (then revert the changes in your sources.list and do another sudo apt-get update)
[20:10] <Flannel> banished: That'll give you an idea (probably around 99.5% accurate) of what you'd get if you used update-manager to upgrade
[20:10] <Arcidias> hi all
[20:10] <banished> Flannel: ah, thank you
[20:10] <Jordan_U> banished: Such a list is presented to you before you commit to the upgrade, though in a GUI rather than a text file.
[20:11] <aeon-ltd> ted__: did you read the page i linked you?
[20:12] <janicko> could i have help to set up my wireless router? It is recognized, even it say it is connected, but i am not able to go on internet...
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> ted__: google for dd iso to usb ubuntu
[20:12] <mfraz74> janicko: are you able to connect to the router's setup page?
[20:13] <kJuniksz> hello, someone has installed OSX in Virtualbox?
[20:13] <Oer> kJuniksz, is is not legal to do that :(
[20:13] <Matthes> xerox1: does it work?
[20:14] <xerox1> Matthes, yes; restarted was missing ;)
[20:14] <janicko> mfraz74: what you mean? On internet?
[20:14] <banished> Oer: that's only true for the USA
[20:14]  * xerox1 is doing a happy-dance
[20:14] <hareldvd> which package do I need to install to enable postgres dblink?
[20:14] <dri245> question please. i installed a wine program. i uninstalled it after. yet, it still shows up in my start menu, under the wine programs. how can i remove it from there as well? it's just shortcuts that need to be deleted but i have no idea how to get in there
[20:14] <xpuser> is it necessary to encrypt your /home to secure your computer? why is there c code keep appearing in my home directory?
[20:14] <kJuniksz> Oer: if it isn't legal, why can i found an OS option?
[20:15] <xerox1> Matthes, thx :)
[20:15] <Matthes> heh
[20:15] <Matthes> I did nearly nothing hehe
[20:15] <Oer> kJuniksz, check the UELA
[20:15] <banished> dri245: right click on Applications->Edit menue and remove the shortcuts there
[20:15] <mfraz74> janicko: no, the router should display a page on your web browser if you enter it's IP address
[20:15] <Matthes> but my dvd drive is still not working what an irony
[20:15] <dri245> thanks banished
[20:15] <Flannel> xpuser: Depends on your definition of "secure".  There shouldn't be random code appearing in your homedir, are you sure you're not accidentally putting it there?
[20:15] <dri245> i knew that but i'm just too dumb. thanks a lot :)
[20:16] <Arcidias> janicko: your wireless router's config page should be something like 192.168.0.1
[20:16] <xpuser> Flannel lol no...... I think it is coming from browser
[20:16] <Arcidias> type it in a browser
[20:16] <coz_> qjcg,  did you get an answer to your question?
[20:16] <janicko>  mfraz74: no it didn't
[20:16] <banished> janicko: do you have a manual for the router?
[20:16] <kJuniksz> Oer: and can i try somehow that system? i am very curious
[20:16] <mfraz74> can you ping the router?
[20:17] <qjcg> coz_: i think i answered it myself! "Exec=bash -c 'LC_ALL=C command ...' "
[20:17] <ted__> Flannel: I only have dd; I cannot install wodim or genisoimage because of the process-halting errors.
[20:17] <coz_> qjcg, ah ok
[20:17] <qjcg> coz_: thanks for following up!
[20:17] <coz_> qjcg,  I was wondering if you could open that in gedit as well and set variables
[20:17] <ted__> Flannel: Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
[20:17] <qjcg> coz_: what do you mean exactly?
[20:18] <coz_> qjcg,   just that I was wondering if a .desktop file could be opened in gedit to cahnge variables  let me check
[20:18] <qjcg> coz_: most definitely
[20:18] <Matthes> help! I have no sound details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9716702#post9716702
[20:18] <thune3> ascheel: for my own edification I looked this one up: for Lucid, /tmp cleaning is handled by init (boot) script /etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf (from mountall package) , and uses TMPTIME variable defined in /etc/default/rcS (specified in days), to determine what should be cleaned.
[20:18] <EddieV113> in anjuta how do i compile and run some code just for debugging without installing it?
[20:18] <EddieV113> and im coding in c++
[20:18] <qjcg> coz_: my problem was just to do with a specific bash *environment variable*
[20:19] <janicko> banished: yep, but not runable under ubuntu. I was able to install it, it also showing that is working on iwconfig.
[20:19] <coz_> qjcg,  oh ok   understood then :)
[20:19] <trumee> can some guru explain me this http://pastebin.com/p4F6g0p2
[20:19] <Flannel> ted__: What process-halting errors?  Your apt-get ones?
[20:19] <trumee> why doesnt that driver compile
[20:19] <ted__> Flannel: yes.
[20:20] <trumee> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop.
[20:20] <Rogue1> janicko: which model router is it? And have you identified it's IP address from ifconfig?
[20:20] <janicko>  banished: i also had advice to install Wicd but it still didn't help
[20:20] <ted__> Flannel: pages of them before it errors out.
[20:20] <banished> janicko: isn't it just a pdf or some printed sheet of paper that explains how to set it up?
[20:20] <trumee> make[1]: Leaving directory `/lib/modules/2.6.31-20-generic/build'
[20:20] <Arcidias> trumee: check your dependencies
[20:20] <youtube> salut danis est tu la
[20:20] <ascheel> thune3: You are a scholar and a gentleman!  :)
[20:20] <danic> oui jean-sebastien
[20:21] <Flannel> ted__: Hmm.  And you can't just install genisoimage (as oppoesd to trying to install a full desktop, etc)  (it happens on any package?)
[20:21] <youtube> hahahaha
[20:21] <danic> Comment va tu ?
[20:21] <danic> ASV SVP?
[20:21] <youtube> ça vas pas pire et toi
[20:21] <danic> #1!
[20:21] <Oer> !fr
[20:21] <banished> !es | youtube
[20:21] <janicko> Rogue1:It is Belkin F6D4230 and i didn't but i try now
[20:22] <Aemaeth> how do i get ubuntu to say "Exterminate!" in daleks ?
[20:22] <janicko> banished: actually it wasn't it was whole aplication whta done it itself whole lot
[20:22] <Rogue1> janicko, if you go onto ifconfig you should have a gateway(?) address, which should be the IP address of your router - shove it into your browser, and see what happens?
[20:22] <trumee> Arcidias: there are no dependencies. it is a wireless driver
[20:22] <xangua> that's not spanish banished :S
[20:23] <cablop> i'm pretty annoyed with a linux feature
[20:23] <ted__> Flannel: It seems to happen with every package I've tried to install.
[20:23] <Rogue1> janicko: manual is availabe in PDF form from http://www.belkin.com/support/product/?lid=en&pid=F6D4230-4&scid=221
[20:23] <cablop> i DON'T want to paste text on middle click!!!! how can i disable this "feature" but NOT DISABLING the middle click?
[20:23] <ted__> Flannel: Is `dd' a possibility?
[20:23] <Flannel> ted__: Hmm, that's troublesome.  Can you stick it on a USB and sneakernet it to another computer to burn?
[20:23] <Flannel> ted__: Not onto a CD
[20:24] <ted__> Flannel: Well, we DO have a Windows computer... :-~
[20:24] <banished> cablop: in firefox or in general?
[20:24] <Flannel> ted__: That'll work.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto  Has some free ISO burning tools for windows
[20:25] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: Finally got it to work. I'm running lubuntu and there was an error in the upgrade of lxdm and lubuntu-default-settings packages. I deleted /etc/alternatives/lxdm.conf and it worked out
[20:25] <ted__> Flannel: Thanks.  This was instead of ``Windows?  Work'' In the same sentence???
[20:25] <janicko> Rogue1: i done it but it won't show ip or gateaway adresss
[20:25] <jamesq2> i have an issue with hcitool scan not finding any of my devices
[20:25] <jamesq2> lsusb shows Bus 006 Device 003: ID 413c:8140 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 360 Bluetooth
[20:26] <Rogue1> janicko, have you considered resetting your router to factory defaults?
[20:26] <jamesq2> hcitool dev
[20:26] <jamesq2> Devices:
[20:26] <jamesq2> 	hci0	00:1E:37:FB:7D:79
[20:26] <jamesq2> but hcitool scan just hangs
[20:26] <jamesq2> had been working but then just quit
[20:26] <well_laid_lawn> econdudeawesome: well done :] - I would never have known to do that
[20:26] <jamesq2> any idea?
[20:26] <cablop> banished: in general
[20:27] <severnaya> hello, im trying to go to init level 3 but it's not working. i typed "init 3" and "telinit 3" command and nothing happened
[20:27] <emerica> In a terminal is there a keyboard shortcut that will bring the pointer to the beginning of a command?  I dont want to hold the arrow key to send the pointer back through the whole command, takes forever,  any ideas?
[20:27] <janicko> Rogue1: you mean by pressing reset button on router? Already done, but could try again
[20:28] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: luck, my friend, and backing up the file before I removed it
[20:28] <Aemaeth> emerica home?
[20:28] <econdudeawesome> well_laid_lawn: but now it's in the logs, so hopefully when this error is repeated someone can find it
[20:28] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[20:28] <econdudeawesome> now to restart end ensure it works...
[20:28] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[20:29] <emerica> Amaeth ; Wicked thanks!
[20:29] <Rogue1> janicko, try holding it down (or if it's a reset button  in a pin-hole, put a paperclip in) and hold it down for, say, over ten seconds -- should reset everything
[20:29] <EddieV113> wtf why is anjuta running "Hello word" script instead of my program i have open and compiled?
[20:29] <DUEDAHL> is it possible to manage your ubuntu servers (ssh) through ubuntu-landscape?
[20:29] <Rogue1> janicko, do you know which version of the router you have? 1xx, 2xx or 3xx?
[20:30] <Oer> EddieV113, fix it ?
[20:30] <EddieV113> Oer, how?
[20:30] <Aemaeth> wow, i got a mp3 for "Silent" sound effects, like "Man watches television with volume set to 0"
[20:30] <EddieV113> Oer, my program doesn't even have hello world in it
[20:31] <Aemaeth> EddieV113, are you maybe compiling into one file and running another location without copying the file?
[20:31] <sharperguy> How do I restart hal in 10.04?
[20:32] <Oer> EddieV113, hello world is the standard graphical example  when you install anjuta , so your
[20:32] <janicko> Rogue1: 1xx And I'm after finding out that i am not able to open that manual becouse of some error :-(
[20:33] <sometux> How to enable bluetooth on my Acer laptop?
[20:34] <Aemaeth> i was really happy i could get Neverhood to run in wine
[20:34] <EddieV113> Oer so the program i just compiled adn it said it compiled is not getting run when i click execute, why?
[20:35] <banished> sometux: is there some switch/button?
[20:35] <Oer> EddieV113, maybe you are missing components, i'm not sure, the basic sample 'hello world' should work fine.
[20:36] <cablop> banished? any ideA?
[20:36] <sarah32> hi i have other problem i can boot lucid normally but when i try to connect to internet using wicd 1.7 and i press connect systme freeze and i need to restart i tried many times and it doesnt work everyth=ime im trying to connect to internet wicd freeze lucid i cant use network manager cuz i uninstakkled it and now i would need to download under windows all lib network mgr applet etc to much trouble what are other options to connect to in
[20:36] <sarah32> ternet in lucid ? are there other programs clients i could use ?
[20:37] <banished> cablop: not really, it's probably possible but I never felt the need to disable it - why does it bother you?
[20:37] <Kaga> i have a problem, when i login ubuntu tells me that power manager needs to close before i LOG OUT and this error message appears everytime
[20:37] <canthus13> sarah32: Can you connect direct to your router via ethernet?
[20:37] <sometux> banished, no
[20:37] <Kaga> i dont even need power manager on my desktop
[20:38] <panozzaj> anyone care to help with a webcam problem?
[20:38] <banished> sarah32: are you using ethernet or wifi?
[20:38] <sometux> banished, on windows its activated by acer software
 didnt tried
[20:38] <cablop> banished i just use middle click to autoscroll on webbrowsers and to activate windows without throwing any other event, just gaining focus on them and nothing more
[20:38] <sarah32> i use wifi
[20:38] <sarah32> rt2573
[20:38] <sometux> banished, you know the problem!!!
[20:38] <canthus13> sarah32: Try that and see if you can get online.
[20:38] <banished> sometux: paste lspci -k and lsusb
[20:39] <canthus13> sarah32: If you can, then you can reinstall network-manager
[20:39] <banished> !paste | sometux
[20:39] <cablop> i just middle click on the text area to switch windows faster
[20:39] <cablop> and... my wrist use to pain too much if i need to do too much mouse movement
[20:39] <Aemaeth> cablop, you have a point, i don't ever remember linux doing that
[20:39] <EddieV113> is there something easier to use than anjuta?
[20:39] <Aemaeth> but there's gotta be someone who has fixed this
[20:39] <_DGM_> codeblocks
[20:39] <cablop> so it's a very importabnt thing to me to avoid moving the mouse
  i know:) are there other clients in ubuntu i could use to connect to internet?
[20:39] <manfred> have two cdrom-drives installed. both serial. one is sr0 = reader and one is sr1 = writer. the writer works fine. however I can't get the reader working properly. it opens and closes immediately again. I used setcd, however no success.anybody got any idea how to correct this?
[20:40] <brontos> so, anyone see issues pasting from gvim to openoffice docs?
[20:40] <Aemaeth> you need a camera to record your eye movements for moving mouse and clicking
[20:40] <brontos> right now I have to paste to gedit then to oo
[20:40] <sarah32> wicd network mgr anything else?
[20:40] <Aemaeth> cablop, so what would you call that pointer feature?
[20:40] <cablop> and if that "feature" annoys me, being just a normal healthy guy, i think this is a real pain to some people with disabilities
[20:40] <banished> sometux: what do you mean?
[20:40] <Manfred-> Hi there, which mp3/FLAC devices sync best with amarok ?
[20:41] <cablop> well... i'll call the no-event middle click or the CUSTOM-event-middle click
[20:41] <Aemaeth> like, i'd like to help you google around for a fix, but it's like a middle-mouse scroll?
[20:42] <cablop> well, let me think
[20:42] <ghisen|home> Hi i have a P7P55D ASUS motherboard... with a Realtek® 8112L networkcard... on a fresh installation i hade no network.. was suggested to install the drivers from realteaks homepage... r8168-8.018.00.tar.bz2 and i did... and it worked.. but now i only have 10mbit network instead of 1gbit... any ideas how to fix this?
[20:42] <sometux> banished, http://paste.ubuntu.com/477593/
[20:42] <cablop> mmm
[20:42] <cablop> in google i found it as "middle-click paste"
[20:42] <shaullx> i can record myself on the sound recorder but no one hears me on Teamspeak3 can someone help?
[20:42] <lap_dragon> will steam work with ubuntu?
[20:43] <banished> cablop: well, for scrolling just go to about:config in firefox and set autoscroll to true
[20:43] <Aemaeth> cablop, http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=middle+mouse+click+scroll+in+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[20:43] <cablop> and they say there's no way to disable it, except to fully disabling the middle click... and i use the middle click more than the doiuble click, so to disable the middle click is not an option
[20:43] <DUEDAHL> is it possible to manage your ubuntu servers (ssh) through ubuntu-landscape?
[20:43] <cablop> banished, yes, that solves the problem for me in just firefox
[20:43] <Aemaeth> banished, so it's called autoscroll?
[20:43] <sometux> banished, http://paste.ubuntu.com/477594/
[20:43] <cablop> not chrome, not opera, not seamoneky and a big amount of others :(
[20:44] <Aemaeth> that does help with firefox
[20:44] <Aemaeth> thanks banished
[20:44] <banished> cablop: well, there is a plugin for chrome that does that…
[20:44] <cablop> but... what i want is to not to paste garbage in my code
[20:45] <sometux> banished, the problem is the bluetooth have to be activated first before the kernel can detect it.
[20:45] <shaullx> i can record myself on the sound recorder but no one hears me on Teamspeak3 can someone help?
[20:45] <cablop> i really switch windows faster and i'm willing to avoid having the pain on my wristles again i had this year before...
[20:45] <ciphersson1> has any one got Star Trek online running properly in wine on Ubuntu? i tried play on linux also but to no avail. I have a intel i7 920 with a nvidia GTX 260 with 8gb of ddr3 ram
[20:45] <EddieV113> geany is a million times easier, it worked first time
[20:46] <jgcampbell300> hello again
[20:46] <banished> sometux: hm, can you activate it in BIOS?
[20:46] <sometux> banished, I tried to use acerhotkey which is packaged by ubuntu as source code to compile but with no luck
[20:47] <Aemaeth> grep-v *
[20:47] <sometux> banished, no option in BIOS for activating bluetooth device
[20:47] <banished> ciphersson1: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10969
[20:48] <banished> sometux: what model is your laptop?
[20:48] <sometux> banished, acer travelmate 4052lci
[20:49] <jgcampbell300> I am in need of more advice, I am setting up 2 small computers to run as DNS servers, they are not tall boxes at all. both 1G 512M ram 30G HD 10/100/1000 . I am trying to figure out if that is enough resources to run the DNS's and if I can spare the resources to maybe install diffrent stuff on them like maybe a sql server on one and a web server on other ... you know stuff like that
[20:49] <jacob_> hello
[20:49] <trumee> guys, how do i install kernel-source, i did apt-get install source and i have a .tar.bz2 in /usr/src
[20:50] <trumee> but not sure whether this is the right kernel for the system.
[20:50] <jgcampbell300> this is a local network for testing so besides me and maybe a friend or two the usage should not be to hard
[20:50] <sometux> banished, I suppose there must be an option in /sys to enable or disable the device, and that what acerhotkey does
[20:50] <cablop> T.T
[20:50] <jgcampbell300> oh there both using ubuntu server 1.04
[20:50] <trumee> uname is Linux joggler 2.6.31-20-generic #58 SMP Wed Apr 14 02:29:59 CEST 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:50] <jgcampbell300> 10.04
[20:50] <trumee> how do i get the correct kernel for this?
[20:50]  * Mogga is struggling with kerberized nfs... unmatched host. Looking for a nudge in the right direction.
[20:51] <Aemaeth> jgcampbell300, yea, as long as you get it all setup i'm not sure why you couldn't
[20:51] <dri245> what can i use as an alternative for daemon tools, please?
[20:51] <dri245> i have .iso files i need to use.
[20:51] <ZykoticK9> !iso | dri245
[20:51] <Aemaeth> never setup a dns before, but the webserver is easy
[20:51] <trumee> also, where should /lib/modules/2.6.31-20-generic/build point to?
[20:51] <dri245> thanks ZykoticK9
[20:52] <dri245> let me try
[20:52] <trumee> i dont know nothing about ubuntu (more of a gentoo guy)
[20:52] <Aemaeth> that's a double negative :(
[20:52] <jgcampbell300> ya i was just wonder if 512M ram is going to do it for the DNS and sql ... other box DNS2 webserver
[20:52] <Mogga> has anyone had succcess with kerberos and nfs on 10.04? i'm stuck... "unmatched host"
[20:52] <henkpoley> I'm seeing 50% ICMP ping packetloss over my rt73 supported wireless USB stick. Anybody there to help me debug this a bit? (nothing in dmesg)
[20:52] <dri245> ZykoticK9, what do i put for mountpoint?
[20:53] <ZykoticK9> dri245, anything you want.  /mnt would work.
[20:53] <janicko> rogue: it didn't work
[20:53] <Pici> trumee: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile yet?
[20:53] <distant2> are opentype fonts usable in ubuntu?
[20:53] <jacob_> I've been using ubuntu desktop for a few years now. I work at godaddy.com and have been using godaddy shared hosting for a while, now I want to use ubuntu server and host my site myself. Is there a control panel I can install on ubuntu server to make management of DNS and email a little easier?
[20:53] <dri245> and in ISO-filename i put the whole path? or do i just go in the path folder first, before doing the mount command?
[20:53] <trumee> Pici: thanks for the link, checking it out
[20:53] <Aemaeth> jgcampbell300, i had a rackmounted server with 512 it was good for apache, mysql, also torrents
[20:54] <ZykoticK9> dri245, path obsolue or relative, of the ISO yes.
[20:54] <Rogue1> janicko, did it not reset the router to factory defaults? if that's the case, plugging direct into the router ONLY should allow you to ifconfig and identify the router's IP address (will most likely be  acting as a DHCP server)
[20:54] <dri245> thanks, trying now
[20:54] <RainRain> new to ubuntu - trying to uninstall an app - its not listed in the ubuntu software centre under installed apps - any help appreciated
[20:54] <well_laid_lawn> jacob_: if noone here knows someone in #ubuntu-server might
[20:54] <fcuk112> anyone got experience with freebsd, wonder how 8.1 compares to ubuntu?  i am setting up an old pc as a simple fileserver and am wondering whether i should try freebsd for fun.
[20:54] <jgcampbell300> Aemaeth; thanks ... i guess I should be fine then ... these are not hot computers but its not like the work load will be very high on them
[20:54] <ZykoticK9> RainRain, was it an app you installed with Software Center/Synaptic/or Apt?
[20:54] <Aemaeth> jgcampbell300, xubuntu takes slightly less ram for install anyway, so if you're saving up megahurtz that might be worth a try, although i never observed a noticable change
[20:55] <fcuk112> one thing that turns me off is that i read the boot time for freebsd is 30 sec.  is that still the case with 8.1?
[20:55] <RainRain> it was installed via terminal
[20:55] <jacob_> well_laid_lawn: thanks
[20:55] <well_laid_lawn> np :]
[20:55] <ZykoticK9> RainRain, how did you install it?  was it a source compile?  or binary?
[20:55] <janicko> Rogue1: it did restart, but that's it. I am still not able to connect on internet...
[20:55] <jgcampbell300> ok thanks for the advice ... and about the sql ... I should not have a problem running all of these servers on different boxes should i ?
[20:55] <Matthes> I still have no sound
[20:56] <dri245> ZykoticK9, i went into the path of the image and did "sudo mount -o loop D154NP.daa /mnt", the result was mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[20:56] <RainRain> ZykoticK9, not sure - it's called toggl - i followed the instructions on their site - i didnt compile anything i dont think
[20:56] <Matthes> but I found out that when I play sound, the gnome sound recorder's sound level goes up
[20:56] <Aemaeth> idk sql i hate that stuff, glorified xml
[20:56] <Matthes> so I think there is a software loop between output and input without hardware in between
[20:56] <arrrghhh> RainRain, i don't think daa image files are supported in linux... you *may* have to convert it to an ISO.
[20:57] <Rogue1> I know you wont' be able to connect to the internet. you have a separate modem plugged into it, correct?
[20:57] <ZykoticK9> dri245, .daa is that an ISO?
[20:57] <RainRain> arrrghhh, not sure what you're talking about at all ??
[20:57] <arrrghhh> RainRain, .daa files i don't believe are supported image files.  you're trying to mount a .daa file as a disc image, no?
[20:57] <jgcampbell300> well i am off to see if i crash all my computers or not lol ... thank you all for your advice
[20:57] <ZykoticK9> RainRain, i'm sorry you'd need to revisit that same website and see if they have uninstall instructions... best of luck.
[20:58] <RainRain> arrrghhh, think you have me mixed up with someone else
[20:58] <RainRain> ZykoticK9, thanks will do
[20:58] <jgcampbell300> oh ... one more question ... would i use open ssh to work on my headless servers or is there a more secure way ?
[20:58] <arrrghhh> RainRain, i apologize you are correct :D
[20:58] <Aemaeth> computers were built to be crashed, like they told Galileo "You can't do that to a toilet!"
[20:58] <shaullx> sound recorder can record me but i can't use my mic in teamspeak, please help me
[20:58] <dri245> nop. sorry. then what do i use for .daa?
[20:58] <RainRain> arrrghhh, no worries
[20:58] <jgcampbell300> lol
[20:59] <arrrghhh> dri245, you're the guy.  i don't think .daa files are supported in linux.  you'll probably have to convert the file to an iso.
[20:59] <Jordan_U> dri245: Try right clicking it and see if there is an "Open with archive mounter" option, if not then you'll need to use a tool like daa2iso to convert it to an iso file first.
[20:59] <RainRain> ZykoticK9, can i ask though - is there not a standard way of uninstalling an app that was installed via terminal - i used sudo get-app or something ?
[20:59] <babu__> is there any applcn to send text mess to phone..
[20:59] <dri245> ok, thanks
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> dri245, if this is an audio cd you wan't be able to convert that to an ISO i'm affraid - you MIGHT be able to convert to bin/cue - but not so easy to mount
[21:00] <jgcampbell300> sudo apt-get remove appname
[21:00] <ZykoticK9> RainRain, "sudo apt-get remove foo" only applies to things you installed with apt-get, not manually installed stuff.
[21:00] <AndrewMC> babu__: Look in the synaptic package manager
[21:01] <RainRain> ZykoticK9, i dont think i manually installed it though ?? -  i had to type in about 3 commands into terminal
[21:01] <babu__> wat to type for searching
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> RainRain, link to instructions you used?
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> !away > q_a_z_steve
[21:02] <distant2> are opentype fonts usable in ubuntu?
[21:02] <jgcampbell300> is open ssh the most secure "best" way to work with my servers ?
[21:02] <q_a_z_steve> ZykoticK9: will do
[21:02] <dri245> and how do you unmount an .iso?
[21:02] <ZykoticK9> jgcampbell300, probably
[21:02] <RainRain> ZykoticK9, https://www.toggl.com/public/widgets
[21:02] <ZykoticK9> !iso | dri245 second time ;)
[21:03] <Jordan_U> dri245: sudo umount /mountpoint
[21:03] <dri245> ya, i mean UNmount :)
[21:03] <dri245> OK
[21:03] <dri245> TNX
[21:03] <ZykoticK9> RainRain, "sudo apt-get remove toggl-desktop"
[21:03] <Jinxed-> So my aunt has a virus on her usb stick and I had an idea, and i wanted to know if it would work. I was planning on burning the ubuntu live cd, booting it up plugging in the usb drive, copying the files she needs  Then I want to reformat the usb drive and completly wipe it out (any advice on how to do that would be appreciated) then download the filess
[21:03] <RainRain> ZykoticK9, thanks
[21:04] <Flannel> Jinxed-: That would work.  Assuming the virus wasn't piggybacking on any of the files (macroviruses or what have you)
[21:04] <Aemaeth> so, i wrote a quick dash script that mirrors images on 7chan, makes me feel like a hero
[21:04] <Jinxed-> Flannel, any other suggestions on a safer way to get the virus off her usb driver?
[21:05] <Flannel> Jinxed-: That's certainly the safest
[21:05] <ghisen|home> Hi i have a P7P55D ASUS motherboard... with a Realtek® 8112L networkcard... on a fresh installation i hade no network.. was suggested to install the drivers from realteaks homepage... r8168-8.018.00.tar.bz2 and i did... and it worked.. but now i only have 10mbit network instead of 1gbit... any ideas how to fix this?
[21:05] <jgcampbell300> oh thats strange ... i just installed ubuntu 10.04 server on two computers just alike in hardware and the first info loged in says on one computer 61 processes and the other is 65 processes lol thats strange
[21:06] <Aemaeth> Jinxed-, sounded good, i would scan it with clamAV or totalvirus.com before you moved it to a vulnerable system
[21:07] <Aemaeth> like, remember when sony put those rootkits on their cd's for win users?
[21:07] <IVerbNouns> I wish I had iTunes & a stable internet connection.
[21:07] <Maser> shennanigans
[21:08] <babu__> is there any applcn to send text mess to phone..
[21:09] <Aemaeth> babu__, do a syrch in synaptic for sms
[21:11] <jean> Steepnowsetto2.23
[21:11] <nanotube> hey, how can i stop thunderbird from eating cpu all the time? tb2 didn't use to do that...
[21:12] <etrnl> Trying to install server edition 10.04 and keep getting debootstrapping errors while trying to install the base system
[21:12] <etrnl> its not one or two files, it's pretty much half the installation files
[21:13] <Guest76236> "i686-pc-linux-gnu failed"  Any help??
[21:13] <Nexus1> etrnl: Already tried burning it again at a slow speed?
[21:13] <etrnl> Nexus1, three different disks
[21:13] <splnet> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a macpro intel with no cdrom. Any pointers?
[21:13] <etrnl> well 2, about to burn three
[21:13] <etrnl> splnet, bootable usb
[21:13] <etrnl> there's a guide on the site
[21:13] <Rogue1> enquiry: in-built burning only allows me to go as low as 10x on my external DVD-RW drive, but the drive's maximum speed is 8x?
[21:14] <intrusion> "i686-pc-linux-gnu failed"  Any help??
[21:14] <splnet> etrnl: I have a bootable usb but, I can't get the mac to boot off of it.
[21:14] <OzoneNerd> I have an Inspiron 17r with a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.4.  The internal speakers work fine, but when I plug in headphones, they go mute and no sound comes out of the headphones.  Any advice?
[21:14] <Oer> intrusion, can you give more info ?
[21:14] <Aemaeth> can macs netboot?
[21:14] <etrnl> Nexus1, i havent tried burning at a lower speed, but havent had a problem in the past with other cds
[21:15] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: are they regular headphones or USB?
[21:15] <splnet> etrnl: it doesn't show the usb device as an option
[21:15] <Rogue1> Aemaeth, yes.
[21:15] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: did they work before with another OS?
[21:15] <Aemaeth> then that might have to be his answer if no cd/usb
[21:15] <OzoneNerd> shirtless: Standard audio jack.  The hardware is functional.
[21:15] <Rogue1> Aemaeth: hold down Option (Alt) when booting, and you'll have the choice to boot from hard drive, and any available optical drives or netboots?
[21:15] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: do you have a headphone jack in the front and back of your computer (ie) one direct to the sound card? Have you tried *both* jacks
[21:15] <Thqrmt> AUDIO PROBLEM: application wide; internet radio site and rythmbox disply same issue; ISSUE: clicking play does not move "time cursor" or play and sound. time cursor is moveable with the mouse but will not play sound and not move from the position to which you set it. again this is application wide
[21:15] <ghisen|home> Hi i have a P7P55D ASUS motherboard... with a Realtek® 8112L networkcard... on a fresh installation i hade no network.. was suggested to install the drivers from realteaks homepage... r8168-8.018.00.tar.bz2 and i did... and it worked.. but now i only have 10mbit network instead of 1gbit... any ideas how to fix this?
[21:16] <Aemaeth> micro splnet rogue1 told you
[21:16] <intrusion> Oer  "error: /bin/bash ./config.sub =i686-pc-linux-gnu failed" i'm trying to setup AVR libc, but when i run the configure command (with options) it just gives me that
[21:16] <etrnl> splnet, probably not formatted with a GUID partition table
[21:16] <OzoneNerd> shirtless: There is only one audio jack on the side of my laptop.
[21:17] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: have you checked all the volume settings in preferences?
[21:17] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: try running alsamixer as well
[21:17] <D-coy> hi
[21:17] <splnet> etrnl: hmm maybe so. I used usb-creator-gtk
[21:17] <OzoneNerd> shirtless: I ran alsamixer and gave every volume setting a 50% or so.  The problem persisted.
[21:17] <Jordan_U> splnet: It's a bug in Apple's BIOS implementation.
[21:17] <splnet> etrnl: is there a trick to it?
[21:17] <etrnl> splnet, http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1948
[21:17] <Oer> intrusion, did you install install build-essential ?
[21:17] <D-coy> I have a blackberry curve (rulz!) but my ubuntu 10.04 no found the device T_T, any idea?
[21:18] <intrusion> Oer yup i tried that, but still didn't work
[21:18] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: lspci for your sound card and google the name of it with linux or ubuntu linux
[21:18] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: see if anyone has had the same issue
[21:18] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: if not, i'd file a bug.
[21:18] <OzoneNerd> shirtless: On it.
[21:18] <ghisen|home> Hi i have a P7P55D ASUS motherboard... with a Realtek® 8112L networkcard... on a fresh installation i hade no network.. was suggested to install the drivers from realteaks homepage... r8168-8.018.00.tar.bz2 and i did... and it worked.. but now i only have 10mbit network instead of 1gbit... any ideas how to fix this?
[21:18] <splnet> etrnl: trouble is I already have ubuntu installed.. any idea how to format it that way WITHIN linux?
[21:19] <livingdaylight> I don't know whether its Adobe Air, but bbciplayer won't install and a couple other apps like DT a twitter client keeps crashing when I go to it. Installed the adobeair from synaptic this time; previously followed the adobe website i believe and did not experience these issues. Anyone else have experience with this and care to comment?
[21:20] <OzoneNerd> shirtless: I apparently have two audio cards.  One is a "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)" and the other is a "02:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan HDMI Audio [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series]"
[21:20] <OzoneNerd> Is this relevant?
[21:20] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: interesting
[21:20] <Aemaeth> weird, 30,000 files in a folder makes nautilus a little slow, anyone have a better file browser, thunar?
[21:20] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: lets take a look at that
[21:20] <Ranakah> OzoneNerd one card on motherboard
[21:20] <Ranakah> and one on your graphic card :)
[21:20] <lontra> how can i change the gtk theme for gdm 3?
[21:20] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: preferences->sound->hardware
[21:20] <shirtless> go there
[21:20] <lontra> where is the .conf file that needs to be edited
[21:21] <shirtless> OzoneNerd: how many devices do you see
[21:21] <OzoneNerd> shirtless: I'm there.  Both are listed, but there doesn't seem to be much to change.
[21:21] <shirtless> you should be able to click the other one to give it higher preference
[21:21] <shirtless> if not, you can do that in ~/.asoundrc
[21:21] <Jordan_U> splnet: One possible solution is to use grub-efi on the flash drive, but that unfortunately brings its own complications.
[21:21] <Magix> Whats the opengl libary called?
[21:22] <shirtless> libgl
[21:22] <Magix> super maryo ask it
[21:22] <shirtless> libGL actually
[21:22] <janicko> how to kill aplications?
[21:22] <Magix> shirtless:
[21:22] <Magix> libboost-filesystem-dev
[21:22] <Magix> shirtless:
[21:22] <Magix> magix@MagixPC:~/games/smc$ sudo apt-get install libGL
[21:22] <Magix> Reading package lists... Done
[21:22] <Magix> Building dependency tree
[21:22] <Magix> Reading state information... Done
[21:22] <FloodBot2> Magix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:22] <Magix> E: Couldn't find package libGL
[21:22] <shirtless> Magix: use a pastebin
[21:22] <OzoneNerd> When I disable the first choice, labeled internal audio, the volume goes mute.
[21:23] <shirtless> Magix: you didn't ask what the *package* was called
[21:23] <shirtless> Magix: you asked what the library was called
[21:23] <shirtless> it's libGL..
[21:23] <Magix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/477616/
[21:23] <OzoneNerd> It does not enable the headphones.
[21:23] <Magix> shirtless: It gives that error.
[21:23] <rebirth> so when you enter an incorrect password to log in and it says "checking" for half a second, that's total bs isn't it? it doesn't take that long to check if a string is equivalent
[21:24] <shirtless> Magix: if you don't have GL installed try pulling it in as a dependency by installing mesa-utils
[21:24] <etrnl> rebirth, those strings aren't stored in plain text
[21:24] <etrnl> ;)
[21:24] <shirtless> I'm not sure how to install it, it's always been pulled in as a dependency for me.
[21:24] <Matthes> hello I think I have a loop between mic and speaker port somehow
[21:24] <Matthes> how can I revert it?
[21:24] <benkevan> I'm getting http://pastebin.com/kdkWeFx6 .. xsessoins won't start.. but if I ssh -X to the box, x applications come up.. GDM / XDM won't come up (but I hear the noises) what gives?
[21:24] <Thqrmt> WOAH polarized glases make my laptop screen appear blank from certain angles <3 physics
[21:24] <Magix> shirtless: magix@MagixPC:~/games/smc$ sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev
[21:24] <Magix> shirtless: That one does work
[21:24] <Jordan_U> rebirth: That's so that you can't enter passwords extremely fast, making brute force guessing of the password more difficult.
[21:24] <OzoneNerd> No permutation of settings seems to allow the headphones to work.
[21:24] <Magix> Got it from another channel.
[21:24] <arrrghhh> Matthes, what makes you say you have a loop between your mic & speaker?
[21:24] <Magix> Ty
[21:25] <dreamer000> Matthes: simply mute the mic with alsamixer in a terminal
[21:25] <shirtless> Magix: yeah, thats mesa though. It might do everything in software.
[21:25] <rebirth> how would won gain access to an ubuntu account without the password? theoretically
[21:25] <rebirth> one not won*
[21:25] <shirtless> I haven't researched whether mesa's GL lib will push stuff onto the gfx card, but it might.
[21:26] <arrrghhh> rebirth, brute force, trying several hundred if not thousand passwords one after the other using a script or program.
[21:26] <Matthes> when I play music the "Level" of the gnome sound recorder goes high
[21:26] <arrrghhh> Matthes, so what's the problem tho?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> rebirth: LiveCD, or reboot and enter recovery mode.
[21:26] <rebirth> could you run a script at the startup screen somehow?
[21:26] <Aemaeth> rebirth, knowledge of regular expressions
[21:26] <Matthes> I can't get sound of my speakers
[21:26] <arrrghhh> rebirth, if you have physical access to the machine it's pretty easy.  most people don't lock down grub.
[21:26] <etrnl> rebirth, if you could the whole concept of security would be a moot idea
[21:27] <etrnl> if you're trying to hack, start with brute forcing
[21:27] <livingdaylight> anyone using adobe air tweeter app?
[21:27] <Kbca> SOCORRO
[21:27] <arrrghhh> Matthes, you said you can play music tho...?
[21:27] <etrnl> hacking 101 right there
[21:27] <arrrghhh> this is NOT a hacker room.
[21:27] <etrnl> I know it isnt
[21:27] <arrrghhh> we're not teaching people to hack :D
[21:27] <etrnl> trying to blow the obvious out of the water
[21:27] <rebirth> i'm not trying to hack i just want to know
[21:27] <arrrghhh> lol fair enough.
[21:27] <etrnl> rebirth, take the path I mentioned, it explains enough
[21:27] <rebirth> ok
[21:28] <etrnl> asking in here, not a good idea
[21:28] <etrnl> banhammer ;)
[21:28] <arrrghhh> indeed.
[21:28] <arrrghhh> hahaha
[21:28] <Matthes> i can play music but I can't hear it
[21:28] <rebirth> i don't think i should be banned for asking a question, i never said i was going to do anything unlawful
[21:28] <etrnl> love the complete stoner mentality in that though
[21:28] <arrrghhh> Matthes, ah, i see.  you don't get a login sound either when you boot up then...?
[21:28] <Matthes> i made a forum post
[21:28] <etrnl> "can't you just run a script before the login screen?"
[21:28] <Aemaeth> ask on freenet, you can ask anything there and the people are helpful and friendly, often putting hundreds of manhours into your problem
[21:28] <Matthes> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9716702#post9716702
[21:28] <etrnl> durrrrrrr
[21:29] <Matthes> no but when I logout I hear a beeo
[21:29] <Matthes> *beep
[21:29] <arrrghhh> Matthes, laptop?
[21:29] <Magix> shirtless: Hmm. It gives still a error:
[21:29] <Magix> checking for main in -lGLU... no
[21:29] <Magix> configure: error: Unable to find the OpenGL library
[21:29] <Matthes> t60
[21:29] <Matthes> yep
[21:29] <livingdaylight> I'm getting constant download issues with adobeair from ubuntu repos
[21:30] <arrrghhh> Matthes, from the look of that thread you did a LOT of stuff without asking.  does sound work from the livecd?
[21:30] <Matthes> yep
[21:30] <DJones> Paddy_NI: "/whois Snuxoll"
[21:30] <arrrghhh> Matthes, clean install.  without knowing what you did exactly, that'll be the easiest method to fix it.
[21:30] <babu__> i installed gammu-smsd..but i don,t know how to run it...it doesn;t appear as a item in menu
[21:30] <Matthes> hehm I asked here many times but noone could help
[21:31] <Paddy_NI> DJones cheers man
[21:31] <Matthes> i shall reinstall ubuntu?
[21:31] <arrrghhh> Matthes, if it works on the livecd, you probably did something that bungled it.  again, without knowing what you did, a clean install will be the easiest fix.  yes.
[21:31] <Matthes> but what will happen to my files?
[21:31] <Matthes> my home folder
[21:32] <arrrghhh> backup any vital data.
[21:32] <Matthes> hmm
[21:32] <arrrghhh> if you put /home on a separate partition, you can just not format that partition.
[21:32] <babu__> i installed gammu-smsd..but i don,t know how to run it...it doesn;t appear as a item in menu
[21:32] <arrrghhh> but if / is the only partition, then there's not much you can do other than backup your files and make /home a separate partition next install.
[21:32] <arrrghhh> babu__, have you tried running it from alt-f2 or gnome-terminal?
[21:32] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: The Ubuntu installer allows you to re-install without reformatting /
[21:32] <Aemaeth> don't die befor me, arrrghhh
[21:33] <Matthes> I think I'll create another user and check with this one
[21:33] <babu__> yes..but in vain
[21:33] <Matthes> maybe it#s only local configurations :)
[21:33] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, really?  how?
[21:33] <Rabbitbunny> I've noted some odd activity. Namely, about 50kbps constant going to amazonaws.com and stun1.ideasip.com  lsof -i  shows that java has about 15 connections to these sites. Google seems to imply that the first is the Amazon Cloud, and the second has something to do with OpenVPN. What in the sam hill is going on?
[21:33] <arrrghhh> Matthes, i guess you don't need to format...?
[21:34] <Aemaeth> Rabbitbunny, that's pretty interesting turn off java?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: Choose manual partitioning, select your current / partition to be used as / and make absolutely sure that "format before using" is *not* checked.
[21:34] <Rabbitbunny> Aemaeth: kill -9 does nothing, it restarts.
[21:34] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, that won't cause issues?
[21:34] <etrnl> rebirth, it was the context in which your question was being asked that you should be directing it towards another type of channel
[21:34] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: Not that I know of.
[21:34] <guntbert> babu__: for sending sms? you don't need gammu-smsd for that - just gammu
[21:34] <Matthes> I have 57.8 gb i my home folder
[21:34] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, so... what happens with the previous install?  it's just overwritten?
[21:35] <ted__> Flannel: I've put the alternate CD onto the Windows machine.  I'll have to overwrite the USB drive's contents, won't I?
[21:35] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: System directories are overwritten.
[21:35] <sandking> hey
[21:35] <Matthes> brb, searching for hdd
[21:35] <arrrghhh> Matthes, not sure what that has anything to do with... but Jordan_U is telling me (you) that you don't have to format.
[21:35] <Mogga> 1) if i'm nfs exporting directories does the file server need to be the kerberos server or can that be a third server? ie. fileserver, client server, kerberos server
[21:35] <sandking> what's the easiest way to change list of bootable os'?
[21:35] <babu__> the wat gammu-smsd for n how to install gammu
[21:35] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, and custom configuration files...?
[21:35] <Mogga> 2) what keytabs do i need to create and where?
[21:36] <Rabbitbunny> Mogga: Stop that.
[21:36] <Aemaeth> Rabbitbunny, not sure if this will show anything, but maybe check your system monitor set to show dependencies and see if something else is using java?
[21:36] <DasEi> how does one convert bmp's (bitmap or jpeg) scannerimages to pdf ?
[21:36] <etrnl> Trying to install server edition 10.04 and keep getting debootstrapping errors while trying to install the base system, I've tried redownloading the image, and burning three different cds, still not working
[21:36] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: If they're in system directories they will be overwritten / removed, if they are in your home directory they will be preserved.
[21:36] <Rabbitbunny> Mogga: All on one line. This room moves very fast.
[21:36] <arrrghhh> DasEi, the easiest would probably be a pdf printer.
[21:36] <Rabbitbunny> Aemaeth: seeing how to do that.
[21:37] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, interesting.  i guess i just assumed you had to format /.
[21:37] <Nexus1> What's a good printer that works in ubuntu?
[21:37] <DasEi> arrrghhh: any app in mind ?
[21:37] <arrrghhh> Nexus1, i like HP's.
[21:37] <Mogga> np
[21:37] <arrrghhh> DasEi, built-in feature with linux/cups.
[21:37] <DasEi> Nexus1: hp and canon I got best results with
[21:37] <guntbert> !who | babu__
[21:38] <Nexus1> Alright thanks
[21:38] <guntbert> babu__: I didn't understand your last question
[21:38] <dominicdinada> what is the safe way to remove gnome desktop and xorg ? ?
[21:38] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, uhm... install the server edition?
[21:38] <Rabbitbunny> Aemaeth: Genius. It seems someone installed freenet. Thank you very much.
[21:38] <etrnl> dominicdinada, command line?
[21:38] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: that was not the question
[21:38] <etrnl> or rather ssh into the box
[21:38] <Aemaeth> Rabbitbunny, lol, i love freenet
[21:38] <DasEi> arrrghhh: you think of using sth. like gimp, choose print, then in file ?
[21:38] <dominicdinada> etrnl: yes
[21:39] <etrnl> dominicdinada, ssh in remotely
[21:39] <splnet> Is there a way to create a usb install disk with out using the USB creator gui?
[21:39] <arrrghhh> DasEi, i believe so.  i can boot up my ubuntu box if you want me to walk you thru it, but i'm pretty sure ubuntu has pdf printing out of the box.
[21:39] <Aemaeth> Rabbitbunny, there's even a "Search for open files" that could have probably helped (also in system monitor ctrl-O)
[21:39] <DasEi> splnet: many,  I like unetbootin
[21:39] <arrrghhh> splnet, pendrivelinux.net
[21:40] <dominicdinada> etrnl: well yes it would be ssh access but I guess when removing the gnome/xorg crap what do i risk losing ? confs in samba or network files etc?
[21:40] <Aemaeth> to talk of penprograms other than unetbootin is blasphemy
[21:40] <splnet> DasE, arrrghhh ok do either of those options support GPT partition type?
[21:40] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, you want the server edition it sounds like.  why are you trying to butcher up a desktop install when the server edition has what you want?
[21:40] <DasEi> arrrghhh: I'll come back onto it, just searched synaptic.. ups, 700 MB of stuff to down (yes, some other, too)
[21:40] <Jordan_U> splnet: GPT has nothing to do with your problem.
[21:41] <arrrghhh> splnet, no clue, but i would agree with Jordan_U.
[21:41] <thune3> Rabbitbunny: my connection to amazonaws.com is from ubuntu one syncing.
[21:41] <etrnl> dominicdinada, oh the only files you should lose are conf files for those respective programs
[21:41] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: to much data to lose, To much data to back up
[21:41] <splnet> Jordan_U: ? why do you say that?
[21:41] <etrnl> dominicdinada, since samba and such aren't dependant
[21:41] <DasEi> splnet: gpt on usb ?
[21:41] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, hrm... still sounds like you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
[21:42] <etrnl> he might have files and such already setup, its not that hard of a conversion really
[21:42] <Jordan_U> splnet: The only option for creating a USB drive that is bootable on a mac is to use grub-efi or elilo, and there is currently no tool for automating the process. I can help walk you through setting it up manually if you'd like.
[21:42] <dominicdinada> etrnl: but for the network manager the desktop makes things simple with auto network, samba, etc that will be lost ?
[21:42] <etrnl> wouldn't you just have to specify which runlevel to boot into and change some processes to boot at that runlevel instead of runlevel 5?
[21:42] <dominicdinada> etrnl: was that for me ?
[21:43] <etrnl> dominicdinada, all the network manager is a GUI for ifconfig/dhcp
[21:43] <etrnl> dominicdinada, could be, was pointing out to arrrghhh
[21:43] <splnet> Jordan_U: ok that would be great. What software do I need?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> splnet: Apple's firmware is unfortunately full of bugs and limitations, one of which that it's BIOS implementation doesn't recognise external drives (though its EFI implementation does).
[21:43] <arrrghhh> etrnl, i don't think that method would work so well.
[21:43] <dominicdinada> etrnl: oh ok so the auto load of those files wont change ? because when it was just commandline they didnt auto load the network and samba etc :/
[21:43] <guntbert> !runlevel | etrnl
[21:44] <ted__> Flannel: I have unetbootin ready on the Windows box.  Under the 10.04 Ubuntu distribution there are these options: NetInstall_x64, HdMedia_x64, and Live_X64.  Which one do I use for the Alternate CD?
[21:44] <splnet> Jordan_U: I just installed grub-efi
[21:44] <etrnl> oh, nevermind then
[21:44] <Jordan_U> splnet: That's all you need software wise.
[21:44] <ted__> Flannel: Going to a USB drive, that is.
[21:45] <splnet> Jordan_U: So what's the idea? boot into grub-efi -> usb device?
[21:45] <etrnl> dominicdinada, probably better installing server edition
[21:45] <livingdaylight> anyone know why when I have two instances of Adobe Air Installer in drop-down menu when right-clicking to install an air app?
[21:45] <arrrghhh> LOL sorry dominicdinada.  it really is the best solution.
[21:45] <Flannel> ted__: Uh, I've never heard of HdMedia before, Netinstall isn't what you want, nor is Live...
[21:46] <dominicdinada> etrnl: arrrghhh LOL it is the server edition with the xorg,gnome overlay because it was such a hassle long ago and now well....
[21:46] <ted__> Flannel: Thas is my thought.
[21:46] <Jordan_U> splnet: First of all, make sure that grub-efi-amd64 was installed rather than grub-efi-ia32 (unless you have an old 32 bit intel mac).
[21:46] <ted__> Flannel: It's the only one left over after the obviously inappropriate ones.
[21:46] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, uh... should i even ask why you installed xorg on a server?!?  normally i tell people to install the desktop edition if they want a gui...
[21:47] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, did you install xorg with aptitude?  you may be in luck then.  if you used apt-get, you're probably SOL.
[21:47] <etrnl> GUI's and servers are bleh
[21:47] <dominicdinada> because it was such a hassle. long ago nothing properly saved. No KB to boot it up each time and mount and turn on network etc...
[21:47] <etrnl> install windows if you want that
[21:47] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: yup
[21:47] <AndroidBruce> are there any details on these latest distribution updates?
[21:47] <splnet> Jordan_U: ok good catch.  done. whats next
[21:48] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: running aptitude gnome shows up as a installed package so i do believe it was installed via aptitude
[21:49] <Flannel> ted__: With what little information I've scraped from google, it appears that that might be the correct one
[21:49] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, that's not an indicator that it was installed by aptitude... they're both front-ends for apt.
[21:49] <Flannel> ted__: Since we're just trying this on a USB and not a CD, I suppose we don't lose much by trying :)
[21:49] <intrusion> "i686-pc-linux-gnu failed" any help??
[21:49] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: correct but i dont use apt
[21:50] <Jordan_U> splnet: I assume that you have a fat32 partition on the flash drive. Mount that partition to /mnt (or wherever you want, I will use /mnt as the path in my instructions).
[21:50] <DasEi> arrrghhh: yes, works this way gimp > print...> to file, choice of pdf,svg,postscript,  even does boxe and such, nice..
[21:50] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, oh but you do... you just use front-ends that connect inot it.
[21:50] <thune3> AndroidBruce: which updates? which ubuntu version?
[21:50] <mike12345> Hi, I'm running 10.04 on my laptop and my desktop. If I connect the UMTS stick Huawai E160 to my laptop, it works fine. If I connect it to my laptop it does not work. I checked dmesg. It seems that the modem-manager on the laptop does not pick it up.
[21:50] <arrrghhh> DasEi, I said it was built-in :P
[21:50] <mike12345> sorry, on the desktop
[21:51] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: let me get this right... you are arguing with me about gnome/xorg if i used aptitude or apt and i say it is showing up in aptitude and never use apt.
[21:51] <splnet> Jordan_U: done
[21:51] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: oranges or apples ?
[21:51] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, no one is arguing.  i apologize if you feel that i am.
[21:51] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, i'm just telling you how things work
[21:51] <RainRain> trying to use toggl on ubuntu but there's something wrong with it - anyone know of a similar replacement
[21:51] <DasEi> arrrghhh: if you google it, there are really funny tuts, and synaptic wasn't helpful O:-)
[21:51] <intrusion> "i686-pc-linux-gnu failed" any help??
[21:51] <arrrghhh> DasEi, hrm.  i guess i always saw the print to pdf option and never thought twice about it ;)
[21:52] <Jordan_U> splnet: Now run "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt"
[21:52] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: deductive reasoning says that if it is listen in APTITUDE and I NEVER USE APT then it was installed via, Aptitude
[21:52] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, you're not using logic here... do you want me to explain how aptitude and apt-get are really just front-ends for apt?
[21:52] <splnet> Jordan_U: ok got that
[21:53] <Rabbitbunny> intrusion: Gonna need some more info.
[21:53] <Flannel> dominicdinada: No, it could've been installed with the Software Center, or Synaptic, or a number of other frontends
[21:53] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, i just don't want to bust up your system by giving you a command that may or may not work.
[21:53] <arrrghhh> i don't think anyone else here wants to do that either.
[21:53] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: well true and i accept that
[21:54] <arrrghhh> truth be told, you shouldn't have put a GUI on your server install in the first place dominicdinada...
[21:54] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: "error: /bin/bash ./config.sub =i686-pc-linux-gnu failed" i'm trying to setup AVR libc but when i try to run the configure command it just gives me that. i've tryed build-essentials package and it still dosent work. i've run out of idea's, was hoping someone else might know a trick
[21:54] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, that's what webmin and ebox are for :D
[21:54] <dominicdinada> Flannel: in order to use synaptic or software center doesn't the xorg gnome front end have to be there :O well even if not I would not have installed synaptic and software center before the desktop
[21:54] <Jordan_U> splnet: I'm getting out my intel mac and confirming that things work as I go, so it may take a while.
[21:54] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: EBOX = Biggest fail ever
[21:55] <splnet> Jordan_U: ok
[21:55] <arrrghhh> dominicdinada, uh ok.  i've never used it...
[21:55] <arrrghhh> i use webmin, although it's not "officially" supported in ubuntu any longer.
[21:55] <Rabbitbunny> intrusion: http://pastebin.org  One lines isn't going to help, it said something before that that was useful.
[21:55] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: that crap effed up my system so bad, tried it 10 diff times
[21:55] <arrrghhh> hrm.  i'm going to stay away from that comment...
[21:55] <dominicdinada> arrrghhh: i have webmin but dont like that someone cant just release a mod for the samba etc
[21:55] <AndroidBruce> thune3 lucid lynx 10.04
[21:56] <Flannel> AndroidBruce: You're looking to remove what from your system again?
[21:56] <Flannel> erm
[21:56] <Flannel> sorry AndroidBruce
[21:56] <Flannel> dominicdinada: You're looking to remove what from your system again?
[21:56] <AndroidBruce> Flannel, it's ok
[21:56] <Matthes> back
[21:56] <AndroidBruce> i am just curious about this dist update that i've receieved on 10.04
[21:56] <arrrghhh> Flannel, from what i've gathered, X and gnome-desktop.
[21:56] <Matthes> couldn't find powercable of hdd >_>
[21:57] <dominicdinada> Flannel: well it might be more headache than it is worth now that i think of it
[21:57] <Flannel> dominicdinada: See if autoremove does what you're looking for.
[21:57] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: http://pastebin.org/480336
[21:57] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, can you explain more?  are you running 10.04?
[21:57] <etrnl> weird so I move the image over to my macbook and burn it at 10x and now I am cruising through the base system install
[21:57] <ted__> Flannel: After ``Installation Complete, Reboot (Current), UNetbootin has these messages: After rebooting, select the USB boot option in the BIOS boot menu. (No problem there.)  Next line: *IMPORTANT* Before rebooting, place an Ubuntu alternate (not desktop) install iso file on the root directory of your hard drive or USB drive.  These can be obtained from cdimage.ubuntu.com (The `alternative CD' is not in there.)
[21:57] <etrnl> yay for two badly written cds @ 24x
[21:57] <burak_> hey ;)
[21:57] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, yes
[21:58] <Flannel> ted__: Thatd be the file I linked to your earlier, the alternate iso
[21:58] <Flannel> ted__: I can give you a new link if you need it
[21:58] <acidjazz> what package in ubuntu do i need to install to run the 'deb' get commands
[21:58] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, so what's the question?  i'm not sure what you mean.
[21:58] <the20year> using places>ftp , how do you change directory permissions? When i right click properties/permissions , it says the file type couldn't be determined
[21:58] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, is there a way to see a changelog of recent updates?
[21:58] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, yea, i think apt has a log somewheres...
[22:00] <ted__> Flannel: I've put the alternate CD image on the USB drive.  Do I just set the BIOS to boot from it?  Is that all it means?  Or is there something else?
[22:00] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, i removed compiz and it looks like it's do a dist update and redownloading compiz
[22:00] <Rabbitbunny> intrusion: You're missing libboost.     sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[22:00] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, hrm... interesting.  is there a /var/log entry for apt?
[22:00] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, lemme take a look
[22:00] <the20year> anyone?
[22:01] <dominicdinada> AndroidBruce: purge compiz?
[22:01] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, looks like there are some .logs
[22:01] <AndroidBruce> dominicdinada, i removed compiz with synaptic
[22:02] <arrrghhh> the20year, that's for connecting to an ftp server.  you have to change permissions on the server itself.
[22:02] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, perhaps those will point you in the right direction...
[22:02] <the20year> k , so i can't do it without a dedicated ftp program?
[22:02] <arrrghhh> the20year, do you have access to the ftp server?
[22:02] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, was a partial upgrade
[22:02] <Flannel> ted__: What that's saying is "when you boot to this USB drive, it will boot this program, and that progrm will look for that iso for data"
[22:02] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, ew... i'm sorry.
[22:02] <splnet> the20year: if you have permissions on the directory you can do it from within ftp
[22:02] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, yea?
[22:02] <the20year> yeah , it's my server , i'm on it w/ admin privledges
[22:02] <Flannel> ted__: So yeah, once you've stuck it on the root of that drive, reboot to the USB
[22:02] <AndroidBruce> what is a 'partial upgrade'?
[22:03] <ted__> Flannel: k
[22:03] <ted__> Bye for now...
[22:03] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, yea, partial upgrades suck.  basically everything could not be updated correctly - package dependencies, hardware issues, there are a ton of factors.
[22:03] <splnet> Jordan_U: are you still around?
[22:03] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, ohh mother
[22:03] <arrrghhh> the20year, what do you serve ftp with?  proftp?  vsftp?
[22:03] <Jordan_U> splnet: Yes.
[22:04] <the20year> not really sure what the server is using
[22:04] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, basically.  did you have issues upgrading from karmic recently i'm guessing.
[22:04] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: didn't work
[22:04] <arrrghhh> the20year, who setup the box?
[22:04] <klax0n> hi
[22:04] <Rabbitbunny> intrusion: pastebin?
[22:05] <the20year> the  hosting  company, it's a shared server
[22:05] <arrrghhh> the20year, talk to them.,
[22:05] <the20year> nevermind i guess, i was able to get filezilla
[22:05] <splnet> Jordan_U: so does efi-grub replace the mac boot manager?
[22:05] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, no i did a fresh install of lucid
[22:06] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, really?  when did you get the partial-upgrade message?
[22:06] <AndroidBruce> just now
[22:06] <AndroidBruce> a 15 mins ago maybe
[22:06] <Jordan_U> splnet: No.
[22:06] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, were you installing something?  updating anything?
[22:06] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: exactly the same output
[22:06] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, my wife was using firefox at the time
[22:06] <klax0n> i woud run ftp server,how can help me?
[22:06] <AndroidBruce> i was stupid and didn't look at what was updating
[22:06] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, i saw that it updated flash player as well
[22:07] <Oer> !ftp
[22:07] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, hrm... that's very odd.  seems like you just had a bad update.
[22:07] <Rabbitbunny> intrusion: that's near line 15 of a normal build.
[22:07] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, ahh ok well i will see. any word on the next update?
[22:07] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, i may have missed it, but is something _not_ working?
[22:07] <jgcampbell300> can anyone point me to a "newbie" tutorial / guide to setting up and understanding domain controlers, dns, servers, and any other information related to the basics of both?
[22:07] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, no
[22:07] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, well the next ubuntu upgrade is in october.  maverick drops 10.10.10 i believe.
[22:08] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, i wouldn't worry about it then ;)
[22:08] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, lol ok
[22:08] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
[22:08] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, is that maverick merecat?
[22:08] <hosoka> hello, do I at the right room for sound issues with Alsa on Ubuntu 10.04
[22:08] <AndroidBruce> meerkat rather
[22:08] <Rabbitbunny> hosoka: Yes.
[22:08] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, yes.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/samba-dc.html
[22:08] <caim> Good evening
[22:09] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, when that releases is there an easy way to backup all of my data, settings etc?
[22:09] <distant2> i'd like to know, when having ubuntu+windows on a system, if there's a risk for the windows personal data files to be accessed from ubuntu (via the inter/network) and vice versa.
[22:09] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip: thank you
[22:09] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, im a fairly new ubuntu user
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html
[22:09] <klax0n> no, i woud install wordpress in localhost but it say give ftp u & p
[22:09] <hosoka> Rabbitbunny: I have sound issues with Alsa which can explain on site http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=571219e8d46cfb9ca02ac317614d2c83e6c2b0ea
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: all I did was websearch, you could have done that
[22:09] <opc_0de> HI everyone, Does anybody know of any ubuntu software having similar functionality to pikybasket (windows only) - http://lifehacker.com/358571/copy-and-paste-scattered-files-with-piky-basket . thanks.
[22:09] <hosoka> in the Alsa room nobody answers.
[22:09] <Rabbitbunny> distant2: That question doesn't really make sense as file acces isn't normally considered a risk if it's running on the same hardware.
[22:09] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, no worries.  uhm... as far as backups go there's several options.  having a separate /home is a good start, and there's several backup suites if you want to just backup files.  for the most part upgrades are pretty tame.  i've had some fail, but not many.
[22:09] <caim> I am trying to boot my dom0 kernel over xen 4.0 and I get the following error : (XEN) Dom0 kernel not specified. Check the bootloader configuration.  Dom0 is specified correctly and should work
[22:10] <Jordan_U> splnet: Ok, now run "sudo mkdir /mnt/efi; sudo cp -r /mnt/boot/grub /mnt/efi/"
[22:10] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: any idea's?
[22:11] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, i gotcha. so best bet is to put my /home on it's on partition
[22:11] <AndroidBruce> own**
[22:11] <Rabbitbunny> intrusion: I'd consider fulfilling the rest of the dependancies.
[22:11] <hosoka> I am running the Ubuntu 10.04 and have sound issues with Alsa running on a soundcard snd_hda_intel
[22:11] <janicko> is there any way how to open bin file?
[22:11] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, that's just for ease of formatting, which evidently you don't have to format / if you do a fresh instlal.
[22:11] <opc_0de> *: anyone?? i did google search but that didn't help
[22:12] <splnet> Jordan_U: ok
[22:12] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, yeah i gotcha. is there anyway to put my /home on it's own partition now?
[22:12] <xangua> hosoka: ubuntu uses pulseaudio by defaultm what issues¿
[22:12] <^hiku> opc_0de: I don't know of anything like that for linux. not a gui anyway
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> opc_0de: pyou can use find -exec paitrings to search for files which are so old / modified when etc and copy those
[22:12] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: i'm almost certain they are all done. this is the last little thing i have to do and unfortunatly its the only one that has gone wrong
[22:12] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, eh... it gets kinda tricky if the hdd is already partitioned.  if you have free (raw) space on the drive it's pretty easy.  but not many people leave that unless they're doing disk spanning...
[22:12] <Rabbitbunny> hosoka: That doesn't show what the problem is.
[22:13] <Jordan_U> splnet: Now unmount the flash drive and try booting with the flash drive plugged in holding option. If the USB drive still isn't showing up as a boot option you may need to install rEFIt.
[22:13] <Rabbitbunny> intrusion: That's how it always works.
[22:13] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: bugger.
[22:14] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, i wouldn't worry about the home partition honestly.  just backup your vitals and you'll be fine.
[22:14] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, yeah def not the case here. is it possible to throw another harddrive in and dd /home to that and tell my install somehow where the new /home is?
[22:14] <opc_0de> ActionParsnip: I want to interactively just go folder by folder and select files to be copied (GUI)..
[22:14] <splnet> Jordan_U: ok rEFIt is alreaady installed
[22:14] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, yea, but again... i wouldn't worry about it too much.  it only comes into play when doing a fresh install, and i guess you don't have to format / to do that anymore :P
[22:14] <splnet> Jordan_U: secondly, I haven't installed the installer onto the flash yet
[22:14] <Jordan_U> splnet: Then just boot with the flash drive plugged in and it should show up as an option in rEFIt
[22:15] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, i see ok
[22:15] <splnet> Jordan_U: well.. it wasn't working before. Thats why I was trying to do the guid parition type
[22:15] <AndroidBruce> arrrghhh, but ideally you want /home, /system, /boot on sep partitions
[22:15] <Jordan_U> splnet: This is just a test, after we've confirmed that grub loads I'll walk you through setting up grub to boot from the Ubuntu iso.
[22:15] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, so long as you backup stuff that can't be replaced - docs, music, etc you'll be fine.
[22:16] <janicko> would i have help to set wireless router? It is recognized, but i can't connect to internet
[22:16] <irule> may I export display from an ubuntu to another to show an application on the other remotelly?
[22:16] <distant2> i'd like to know, when having ubuntu+windows on a system, if there's a risk for the windows personal data files to be accessed from ubuntu (via the inter/network) and vice versa.
[22:16] <splnet> Jordan_U: ok. give me a couple of minutes
[22:16] <arrrghhh> AndroidBruce, uhm... back in the day there used to be advantage to slicing those out into separate partitions... i don't see the advantage of it any more, unless you're concerned about space usage.
[22:17] <xangua> arrrghhh: since when there is no advantage¿¿ :S
[22:17] <KnifeySpooney> Hi, if I completely wipe my usb flash drive with the command `sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M`, would it still be bootable if I used unetbootin to write an iso on it?
[22:17] <Oer> distant2, no risk. as long as you do not mount it, ubuntu will not acces a windows partition.
[22:18] <^hiku> KnifeySpooney: yes
[22:18] <RainRain> could someone point me in the right direction -  i downloaded timeedition as a tgz file - trying to install it
[22:18] <rww> KnifeySpooney: part of unetbootin's job is to make it bootable, yes
[22:18] <^hiku> KnifeySpooney: though you need to have at least 1 partition before I think
[22:18] <arrrghhh> xangua, what advantage do you get from it?
[22:18] <^hiku> KnifeySpooney: and that part needs to be formated fat32 or fat16
[22:18] <distant2> Oer: what is mounting? and also how does ubuntu get installed from within windows (inside the ntfs partition?)
[22:19] <KnifeySpooney> hiku, rww,ok :) good, i've done this plenty before but it appeared the boot sector was corrupt (hopefully the drive is not dying)
[22:19] <_DGM_> distant2: you cant really install on an ntfs partition. The only way to run it "inside windows" would be on a virtual machine
[22:19] <xangua> distant2: you mean !wubi ¿
[22:19] <Oer> distant2, installing inside windows, you use WUBI for that.
[22:19] <^hiku> KnifeySpooney: nice. I hope it's not a bad usb stick =(
[22:19] <livingdaylight> !mstcorefonts
[22:20] <livingdaylight> !mscorefonts
[22:20] <KnifeySpooney> hiku, do you know if unetbootin rewrites the boot record every time it runs?
[22:20] <Oer> livingdaylight, mstcorefonts can be found in restricted extra's
[22:20] <KnifeySpooney> and partition table
[22:20] <^hiku> KnifeySpooney: well, it's installing an OS everytime you run it, so I'd have to say yes =)
[22:20] <KnifeySpooney> hiku, okay, sounds good, thanks
[22:20] <distant2> yes i mean wubi, and i wonder how it does that
[22:21] <^hiku> KnifeySpooney: no problem. good luck
[22:21] <^hiku> distant2: magic
[22:21] <distant2> does it install without having an additional partition?
[22:21] <^hiku> distant2: yes
[22:21] <gmachine_24> I need to know what program is good for editing PHP please? Thank you.
[22:21] <guntbert> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer | livingdaylight
[22:21] <distant2> ^hiku: well then i think my personal files from the inactive os would be at risk then won't they.
[22:21] <^hiku> distant2: wubi is really for test driving the os without the need for a cd/dvd to boot from to test it out.
[22:21] <Greg-O> i have a question
[22:22] <livingdaylight> guntbert, can't find it
[22:22] <^hiku> distant2: well, if it's "inactive" then how would they be at risk?
[22:22] <gmachine_24> Just out of curiosity, can anyone see my typing?
[22:22] <distant2> ^hiku: they would be accessible.
[22:22] <guntbert> livingdaylight: did you enable the multiverse repository?
[22:22] <^hiku> gmachine_24: yes
[22:22] <Rabbitbunny> Greg-O: Ask it, Everyone is waiting for a question they know the answer to.
[22:22] <Greg-O> could someone help me with something please?
[22:22] <RainRain> i have an executable file which is giving me an error when i double click it - am i supposed to do something special to install it
[22:22] <gmachine_24> ^hiku: thanks
[22:22] <livingdaylight> guntbert, is it 'ttf-mscorefonts-installer 3.2 ?
[22:23] <distant2> ^hiku: i'm talking about personal files, which can have access codes etc. very sensible.
[22:23] <^hiku> distant2: are you worried that the wubi install within your windows install is gonna kill your windows files?
[22:23] <xangua> RainRain: by executable you mean a windows app¿¿ install !wine
[22:23] <^hiku> gmachine_24: your welcome
[22:23] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: You means an exe meant for windows?  try running it from a terminal.
[22:23] <RainRain> well i downloaded the package for linux
[22:23] <gmachine_24> ^hike how do we type your name correctly?
[22:23] <splnet> Jordan_U: ok I just attempted to boot from the usb device. no dice
[22:23] <gmachine_24> ^hiku: I meant hiku
[22:23] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: that's not and exe then. it should be *.deb
[22:23] <^hiku> gmachine_24: use the "tab" key to auto-complete
[22:23] <splnet> Jordan_U: same problem
[22:24] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: will check again
[22:24] <gmachine_24> ^hiku, ok
[22:24] <distant2> ^hiku: i may be more worried by this: when working on windows (having installed ubuntu by wubi) the files i put on ubuntu system would be accessible from windows by a thrid party.
[22:24] <Greg-O> so i downloaded konversation and its not showing up under applications, so i dont know how to start it
[22:24] <Thqrmt> can I output sound thru the headphone jack and built in speaker simultaneously?
[22:24] <guntbert> livingdaylight: the package is ttf-mscorefonts-installer, the version is 3.2 yes
[22:24] <Rabbitbunny> Greg-O: Still typing?
[22:24] <livingdaylight> guntbert, thx
[22:24] <xangua> Greg-O: launch it from terminal or the launcher
[22:24] <Rabbitbunny> Thqrmt: Neve seen an option for that one.
[22:24] <guntbert> livingdaylight: you're welcome :-)
[22:24] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: no it says linux and it's got an "executable" file it it when i extract
[22:25] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: From where?
[22:25] <Greg-O> ok, is there a way for me to put it under applications
[22:25] <^hiku> distant2: yup cause it's on the windows partiton and the ubuntu files will be readable. so, install ubuntu on another "second" disk and dual boot.
[22:25] <xangua> Greg-O: it should be on apps>internet
[22:25] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: http://www.timeedition.com/en/downloads/index.html
[22:25] <Jordan_U> splnet: There should have been a new icon in the rEFIt list (the onld one would still also be there, still non-functional)
[22:25] <^hiku> distant2: or part out your primary disk and install ubuntu on the second partition
[22:25] <Thqrmt> Rabbitbunny do you know of the most advanced ways to modify sound preferences in ubuntu?
[22:25] <Greg-O> xangua: but it isnt, and thats the problem
[22:26] <distant2> ^hiku: and that can be done by the live cd?
[22:26] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: That's an archive, right click on it and extract it.
[22:26] <^hiku> distant2: and, if your "really really" worried. Run ubuntu from a usb drive with a persistant file system for storing your data.
[22:26] <splnet> Jordan_U: no there was nothing. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1948 <- this says it needs to have guid partioning
[22:26] <RainRain> i know and inside it's got an "executable" file which errors out when i double click it
[22:27] <^hiku> distant2: for that I would read up on - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[22:27] <kreeper> where can i find a list of commands for grub rescue
[22:27] <^hiku> kreeper: man page?
[22:27] <distant2> ^hiku: hmm. interesting. but won't the files inside the usb be readable when inserted without booting?!
[22:27] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: when i access the properites it says under type "executable (application/x-executable)"
[22:28] <DasEi> !grub2 > kreeper
[22:28] <^hiku> distant2: from windows? no
[22:28] <kreeper> i cant use the man pages it juns says no command "man"
[22:28] <^hiku> distant2: hmm, check that... yes. nver mind
[22:28] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: You'd have to run it from console, but it won't work anyway.
[22:28] <xangua> what about gnome menu extended Greg-O ¿ http://gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/Gnome+Menu+Extended+%28Debian+Package%29?content=73515
[22:28] <distant2> ^hiku: no, from the systems that'll recognize the file system on the usb.
[22:28] <^hiku> distant2: so basicly your trying to do what?
[22:28] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: I went ahead and grabbed it, It errors out.
[22:28] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: thanks for that
[22:29] <test_> Hi, is there someone who knows if there exists any alternative to Adobe Reader to display Java Serialized Objects ?
[22:29] <Mqueue> how do I create a harddrive image of my windows drive to a new drive using live C
[22:29] <^hiku> distant2: yes and the file system on a usb drive (installing via unetbootin) will be format fat
[22:29] <DasEi> kreeper:whole story ?
[22:29] <Oer> Mqueue, DD
[22:29] <Oer> !dd
[22:29] <Greg-O> xangua: i have no idea what that means, i just got ubuntu 2 days ago< and im not very comp savvy
[22:29] <Mqueue> !dd
[22:29] <RainRain> finding it very hard to get a decent time tracking program working on ubuntu - trying to replace toggl - any suggestions
[22:29] <f0d> how can i install rpm files in ubuntu
[22:29] <Mqueue> thanks you :)
[22:29] <Oer> !info dd
[22:30] <DasEi> kreeper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[22:30] <^hiku> distant2: I would just dual boot your system. that way, ubuntu can be setup to not see the windows drive, and the other way around =)
[22:30] <kreeper> i tried starting my computer and it just goes to a cli screen that says GRUB RESCUE>
[22:30] <vemon> f0d, you'd have to use something like alien to convert the package to deb. i'd still recommend finding the real ubuntu package for the job
[22:30] <rww> Oer: it's part of the 'coreutils' package
[22:30] <f0d> vemon: i cant find it
[22:30] <^hiku> distant2: you could alway encrypt the usb filesystem with a password =)
[22:30] <rww> ubottu: alien | f0d
[22:31] <luckybunny> I think I killed terminal
[22:31] <Oer> rww tnx
[22:31] <f0d> vemon: and i don't think its available
[22:31] <distant2> ^hiku: encrypt it from the installation inside the usb itself?
[22:31] <Oer> Mqueue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[22:31] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: Search the Software Center for 'hamster'
[22:31] <vemon> f0d, i'd even go as far as installing from source rather than using alien
[22:31] <distant2> ^hiku: i mean, no wait.
[22:31] <janicko> would somebody help me to get my wireless router working?
[22:31] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: thanks
[22:31] <DasEi> Mqueue: dd is part of a metapackage, sectorwise copying tool; sudo apt-get install dd && man dd
[22:31] <^hiku> distant2: more like after the unetbootin installation
[22:32] <^hiku> !ot | janicko
[22:32] <f0d> vemon: heh
[22:32] <f0d> vemon: well
[22:32] <arand> Mqueue: dd is one way, but fsarchiver or a clonezilla-liveCD might be a more efficient/easier choice.
[22:32] <luckybunny> terminal disappears every time I open it. immediately, and without a command prompt
[22:32] <vemon> f0d, what's the app you're missing?
[22:32] <^hiku> brb
[22:32] <xangua> ^hiku: why is that !ot¿
[22:33] <Jordan_U> splnet: Apple's documentation lies :)
[22:33] <f0d> vemon: sgifonts.
[22:33] <Rabbitbunny> luckybunny: You have something in your .bash_rc?
[22:33] <coz_> luckybunny,   hit alt+F2  and type gnome-terminal  and see if it opens that way
[22:33] <distant2> ^hiku: now this made me think that even if my files on my windows system aren't accessible from another user in windows, if someone can remove the hdd and plug it somewhere, would he be able to access and read all the files on that hdd? oh my...
[22:33] <DasEi> janicko: solved your wired problem ?
[22:33] <f0d> 22:27 < f0d> is it possible for someone to use git to manage file handling like, backups and so on
[22:33] <hosoka> ubuntu 10.04 is using Alsa and I have issues with sound
[22:33] <f0d> 22:27 < f0d> other than just source code versioning control
[22:33] <f0d> btw
[22:33] <hosoka> all are at maximum but still no sound
[22:33] <luckybunny> it doesn't
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Do you have an efi/grub/grub.efi path on your flash drive?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> splnet: ^^
[22:34] <coz_> hosoka,   you mean from terminal    alsamixer   all sliders are at max and none muted?
[22:34] <^hiku> distant2: of course, but that's always been the case. if anyone has access to the computer and can touch it, then they can do just about anything they want
[22:34] <splnet> Jordan_U: yes I did
[22:34] <vemon> f0d, http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2026302 :D you don't seem to be alone with that
[22:34] <hosoka> coz, via alsamixer have put all on the max.
[22:34] <splnet> Jordan_U: mkdir /mnt/efi; cp -r /mnt/boot/grub /mnt/efi
[22:34] <f0d> vemon: seen that yeah
[22:34] <distant2> ^hiku: actually i would be at ease if they could just destroy the hardware but not access the files!
[22:35] <livingdaylight> i've installed mscorefonts but when i look in software center i dont' see that it's installed
[22:35] <kreeper> so will all of the grub 2 commands work in GRUB RESCUE?
[22:35] <coz_> hosoka,  when you open    alsamixer from terminal  is your card printed out at the top?  does it recognize the sound card i mean?
[22:35] <distant2> i wonder why i never thought about this. doesn't the os put the in-system protected files in some protected area that even an external system can't read?
[22:35] <Jordan_U> splnet: I'm not using GPT on my flash drive and it's working fine here, if you want to try it though just use gparted to create a GPT label on the flash drive and try again.
[22:35] <DasEi> kreeper: grub-rescue, do you mean busybox ?
[22:35] <Jordan_U> kreeper: No.
[22:36] <splnet> Jordan_U: yeah I'm a step ahead of you:) I'm getting this error on grub-install though:
[22:36] <luckybunny> coz_: It immediately closed again, still
[22:36] <hosoka> yes, HDA Intel with chip Intel G45 DEVCTG
[22:36] <Jordan_U> distant2: No.
[22:36] <splnet> Jordan_U: /mnt/boot/grub doesn't look like an EFI partition.
[22:36] <Jordan_U> splnet: Is it formatted fat32?
[22:36] <splnet> Jordan_U: ext2
[22:36] <kreeper> i'm not sure, it says cant read from hd 0,1  and then under it it says GRUB RESCUE>
[22:37] <vemon> f0d, the hard way would then be to learn how the font system works, extract the fonts from the rpm and manually install them to your system
[22:37] <hosoka> have gone through Alsa update with 1.023 and felt I am missing sound at the max. Very low on sound output.
[22:37] <Jordan_U> splnet: Apple's firmware only supports fat32 and hfsplus.
[22:37] <coz_> luckybunny,  try this in alt+F2    gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=Default
[22:37] <xangua> hosoka: what about with pulseaudio¿
[22:37] <Rabbitbunny> kreeper: Last time I saw that message I bought a new hard drive. Mine was a heat failure.
[22:37] <splnet> Jordan_U: ah ok I'll try it with mkfs.vfat then
[22:37] <Jordan_U> kreeper: Is this a fresh install?
[22:38] <Rabbitbunny> kreeper: I'd try datarecover first, then grub recovery, then fresh install if grub can't be recovered.
[22:38] <kreeper> no i've had it for about a month
[22:38] <luckybunny> coz_: still immediate disappearance
[22:38] <Jordan_U> kreeper: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[22:38] <Rabbitbunny> kreeper: By doing data recovery first you make sure that if the drive only has 10minutes life left, you use that time getting your data.
[22:38] <kreeper> we had a power outage yesterday too so maybe that has something to do with it
[22:38] <pala> i have a wired 802.1.x secured network - is there any way i can save the password in network-manager?
[22:39] <pala> it doesn't seem to have that option
[22:39] <kreeper> i only have 1 hdd
[22:39] <splnet> Jordan_U: ok I'll try this again. Hopefully that will do it
[22:39] <mifadir> how can i get my cam work on ubuntu 10.04
[22:39] <distant2> well then can anyone tell me what's the most efficient way to protect files with sensible data form being read by anybody besides the system? is encryption the only solution?
[22:39] <Rabbitbunny> kreeper: Uh, this is not sounding good.
[22:39] <coz_> luckybunny,  mm   open the home directory.... hit  ctrl+h and look for the  .bashrc  file
[22:40] <thune3> luckybunny: maybe alt+f2 run "xterm", then try launching gnome-terminal from that and see if you get any error messages
[22:40] <coz_> luckybunny,  move that to the desktop and restart the terminal
[22:40] <kreeper> i know. i could reinstall it but i have files i want to save
[22:40] <_DGM_> distant2: the "system" programs that need to read them should be ran as a specific user. Then you chrown those files to only allow read to that specific user. That will do what you want
[22:40] <Rabbitbunny> kreeper: Uh, it doesn't really sound like you'll be getting any data.
[22:41] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: thanks - tried out hamster but what i need is something that will track time spend on projects
[22:41] <hosoka> pulseaudio mentions Daemon already running
[22:41] <Rabbitbunny> kreeper: I'd seriously start on some data recovery.
[22:41] <luckybunny> no .bashrc.... O.O
[22:41] <_DGM_> distant2: for example if your program is called blah, you'd make a blahuser and make those files owned by the blahuser, then you modify the rights of the files to read only to owner
[22:41] <hosoka> but if 10.04 comes with Alsa by default there should be no issue with sound.
[22:41] <coz_> luckybunny,  it should be there somewhere
[22:41] <xangua> hosoka: doesn't ubuntu uses pulse by default¿
[22:41] <distant2> _DGM_: i'm talking about unplugging the hard drive so to read all files inside it from another computer.
[22:42] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: Hmm, it seems to track them kinda well...
[22:42] <hosoka> xangua, no. I do not see that.
[22:42] <syn-ack> xangua, ALSA is the hardware framework as well as userland
[22:42] <headkase314> hosoka, "gstreamer-properties" in a console lets you choose your audio system to use.
[22:42] <erUSUL> distant2: make it only readable by the owner of the file
[22:42] <_DGM_> distant2: then the only true safe way is to encrypt them. Trusting on userrights is not enough as it is easy for a hacker to completely circumvent these settings and read the raw data
[22:42] <coz_> luckybunny,  did you  hit alt+F  type in   xterm  then run   gnome-terminal from there as suggested?
[22:42] <luckybunny> coz_: found it, moved it, still no joy
[22:42] <hosoka> I am in terminal and see Alsamixer 1.0.22
[22:42] <kreeper> rabbitbunny: i cant i tried with windows minipe but it cant find my partitions, should i just reinstall it and use a file recovery program to get my files back?
[22:42] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: i didnt see anywhere to put in projects or clients , just to track time by activity
[22:43] <syn-ack> xangua, out of the box though, yes Ubuntu does use Pulseaudio by default so it would go GNOME>PULSE>ALSA
[22:43] <hosoka> have been upgraded to 1.0.23 and that does fix the sound but not happy with the output.
[22:43] <Rabbitbunny> kreeper: No. reinstalling will delete your data. You need to be doing forensic recovery.
[22:43] <coz_> luckybunny,   were there errors when running   gnome-terminal   from xterm?
[22:43] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: Clients are activities...
[22:44] <kreeper> it wont work it doesn't show my c drive in the list
[22:44] <hosoka> I have HP620 and using HDA Intel soundcard with chip Intel G45 DEVCTG
[22:44] <syn-ack> kreeper, you don't have a C:\ drive in linux
[22:44] <coz_> luckybunny,  do you recal what you were doing prior to gnome terminal crashing?  installing?  uninstalling?   changing thing in terminal profile??
[22:44] <_DGM_> kreeper: but were your partitions ntfs? you should be booting an ubuntu live cd and looking at your harddrive through that
[22:44] <cfedde> How do I but 8.04 recovery mode w/o it trying to start networking?
[22:44] <distant2> erUSUL: would that work even when having the drive as external and accessing all its contents?
[22:44] <_DGM_> kreeper: when you insert the ubuntu disc pick "try ubuntu without change to my computer"
[22:44] <Rabbitbunny> kreeper: You don't want minipe. google 'forensic file recovery', that's what you're trying to do.
[22:44] <luckybunny> I installed a load of things last night, and all was working fine when I went to bed
[22:45] <kreeper> ok brb
[22:45] <luckybunny> just today, I logged in and it's gone
[22:45] <_DGM_> Rabbitbunny: thats one step too far imo.. sounds like he hasnt even tried mounting in linux yet
[22:45] <coz_> luckybunny,  ok do you remembe the "load" of things you installed?
[22:45] <distant2> i don't know, this unrecognized security hole seems strange.
[22:45] <Rabbitbunny> _DGM_: ... You do know that he's got grub errors, and just suffered a power outage, right?
[22:45] <coz_> luckybunny,  several things...you could reset gnome to defaults or  create a new user account
[22:45] <headkase314> cfedde, holding shift at boot will give you a grub-menu, one of the options is recovery mode and you can boot to the console without networking I believe
[22:46] <coz_> luckybunny,  either way if this continues to happen then something is seriously wacked on that end
[22:46] <_DGM_> Rabbitbunny: no i didnt, but that doesnt mean he cant boot a live cd and try to mount his stuff anyway. The only thing i know of is a rare case with ext2 partitions becomming unreadable.. but we dont even know that for certain yet
[22:47] <cfedde> headkase314: thanks.
[22:47] <Rabbitbunny> _DGM_: This is true, but the outage kills I've seen all killed the drive within 15 minutes of powerup. data recovery > playing with LiveCD.
[22:47] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: no.... i had a good play with it but it wont work for me - no project management, client management or anything that i can see... thanks though
[22:47] <headkase314> cfedde, you're welcome, the recovery mode will only give you a console however there is an option to start X in a failsafe mode if I recall correctly..
[22:47] <luckybunny> update: xterm actually did the same thing
[22:47] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: Well, Hmm. So you need something a little more contracter freindly. I know I saw something for that...
[22:47] <coz_> luckybunny,  whoa
[22:47] <Rabbitbunny> _DGM_: Granted, opinion.
[22:48] <coz_> luckybunny,  mm  I am going to suggest resetting gnome to defaults
[22:48] <_DGM_> Rabbitbunny: not all i've seen. Either way, data recovery for linux partitions is expensive.. i'd rather try the free way first :)
[22:48] <cfedde> headkase314: I can handle command line mode i think.
[22:48] <BuckWild> I actually use the liveCD to recover windows files for people on a pretty regular basis
[22:48] <coz_> luckybunny,    if you want to do that let me know
[22:48] <luckybunny> yes please
[22:48] <Rabbitbunny> _DGM_: data recovery is free
[22:48] <cfedde> headkase314: and thanks again
[22:48] <BuckWild> because I don't feel like messing around in their messed up computers and trying to get stuff copied
[22:48] <headkase314> cfedde, excellect : irrsi is a good console irc client "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[22:48] <coz_> luckybunny,  ok copy and paste this next command alt+f2 and restart x
[22:48] <coz_> luckybunny,    sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[22:49] <RainRain> this is a far out question but is there any way to have a tiny internet window open in a taskbar
[22:49] <RainRain> i mean just the same height as the taskbar
[22:49] <coz_> luckybunny,  if that doesnt work via alt+F2  you can hit ctrl+alt+F  log in and run that command    write it down first of course
[22:49] <cfedde> headkase314: exactly.. Personaly I like the white background themes.  irssi is the best.
[22:49] <BuckWild> RainRain, to what end?
[22:49]  * dreamtraveler zZzzZzZ
[22:49] <coz_> luckybunny,  rather  ctrl+alt+F1
[22:49] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: http://www.fanuriotimetracking.com/features.html
[22:49] <RainRain> to put a tiny iframe in it from a website
[22:49] <kreeper> rabbitbunny: do i have to find one in a debian package?
[22:49] <coz_> luckybunny,  if that does work   restart x and come back here
[22:50] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: ta
[22:50] <headkase314> cfedde, yup, have that in one of your virtual terminals for here and the other doing whatever it is you can't have networking to do.. ;)
[22:50] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: thanks but my budget is limited to freeware
[22:50] <BuckWild> I don't really know of a pre-configurable way, I would think it would be pretty easy to code that
[22:51] <thune3> distant2: physical-access = root-access . This is a well recognized security issue
[22:51] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: I suggest writing a gnome panel applet then.
[22:52] <BuckWild> yeah, I wouldn't even necessarily do it with a full web browser
[22:52] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: gnome panel applet ??? roughly what will that do?
[22:52] <BuckWild> just grab whatever you need from the server and display it in the applet
[22:52] <arnaud> yo
[22:53] <BuckWild> if you control the server side at all I'd make it a separately parseable thing
[22:53] <BuckWild> or just the string text that shows up in the applet
[22:53] <Rabbitbunny> RainRain: Anything. You have to write it.
[22:53] <RainRain> buckwild: sorry i was missing all that - thanks
[22:53] <arnaud> Hi all
[22:53] <RainRain> Rabbitbunny: will check it out
[22:53] <Oer> hi arnaud
[22:54] <luckybunny> nope... no dice
[22:54] <BuckWild> has anyone ever found a good way to replace having to have outlook open using linux?
[22:54] <Rabbitbunny> kreeper: http://foremost.sourceforge.net/
[22:54] <jgcampbell300> so what search engine do you guys find to be the best for finding tech instructions , manual , tutorials, etc for Ubuntu ? Google seems to send me to places i do not want to be these days
[22:54] <distant2> _DGM_: you said"Trusting on userrights is not enough as it is easy for a hacker to completely circumvent these settings and read the raw data"
[22:54] <BuckWild> my company has owa, but I hate having to have that browser open, and it doesn't notify me of meetings
[22:54] <distant2> _DGM_: does this apply to linux too?
[22:54] <distant2> _DGM_: or yo uwere just referring to windows systems?
[22:54] <_DGM_> distant2: yes. You say you take it into another computer. So i assumed its something like a mobile usb drive
[22:55] <_DGM_> distant2: correct?
[22:55] <xangua> BuckWild: outlook¿
[22:55] <Rabbitbunny> jgcampbell300: You'll have to learn to use better keywords. I can coach a little if there's something particular you're looking for.
[22:55] <coz_> BuckWild,   I am not sure what you mean...could you say again differently?
[22:55] <BuckWild> coz_, I want, very simply, something to check my outlook calendar, and to alert me of incoming email
[22:55] <BuckWild> coz_, I don't even care if I have to open owa to read the email
[22:56] <distant2> _DGM_: i don't see why you even use the word hacker, because as one said physical acces _is_ root access, so the person doesn't need to hack anything to access it, right?
[22:56] <nerdy_kid> how do i get a backtrace out of a program?  i compiled a program and set the release type to debug; but when it crashes all it says is "segmentation fault" and nothing else.
[22:56] <BuckWild> distant2, if you have data on a hard disk without encryption it can easily be read
[22:56] <jgcampbell300> well i have tried to look up how much ram it would take to run several things and i never find the information i am looking for ... for instance i just tryed to find how much ram is recommended to run ubuntu server 10.04 and samba4 as a PDC and got all kinds of windows information
[22:56] <BuckWild> distant2, if you have encryption on the other hand, little more difficult
[22:56] <_DGM_> distant2: no no wait a sec.. what is the drive you are talkign about? you have a harddrive or some sort.. which you take with you.. correct?
[22:56] <synvilla> hey people
[22:57] <synvilla> How do I rip music from CD to harddrive?
[22:57] <Rabbitbunny> jgcampbell300: Give me a moment to look around
[22:57] <Rabbitbunny> synvilla: Brasero
[22:57] <BuckWild> distant2, you could attempt to rely on the filesystem to provide you user only access, but that really only gets you so far, the data is still on disk, so it can still be read
[22:57] <coz_> synvilla,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[22:57] <jgcampbell300> thank you
[22:57] <coz_> BuckWild,   I am not sure then    sorry
[22:58] <synvilla> brasero seems to be a burner though?
[22:58] <BuckWild> coz_, I tried evolution, but I don't know if the settings are off serverside or something, any combination of owa settings doesn't appear to work
[22:58] <synvilla> how do I use it the opposite way?
[22:58] <BuckWild> I want something that can just read the exchange server crap
[22:58] <savid> Does anyone know of an app that will monitor my windows and track the amount of time different windows are focused?
[22:58] <coz_> BuckWild,  eveolution would have been my suggestion but let me see if I can find something else
[22:58] <Rabbitbunny> jgcampbell300: "ubuntu 10.04 server minimum ram" First page has the answer. You won't find an answer for samba, as disk use will dramatically affect requirements.
[22:59] <luckybunny> coz_: I tried both twice now. Still no success
[22:59] <Rabbitbunny> synvilla: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/06/burncopy-cddvd-discs-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[22:59] <bgiarrocco> Hey all - Is it possible to map a network server so that it looks like a local drive on my ubuntu machine?
[23:00] <jgcampbell300> i see ... so the short story is ... i am just going to have to load some things and find out if my hardware will run it
[23:00] <Rabbitbunny> bgiarrocco: Yes. sshfs if linux.
[23:00] <distant2> _DGM_: talking about the local drive, that can easily be removed form computer and plugged anywhere else ;)
[23:00] <nsouer> bgiarrocco, what kind of server?
[23:00] <distant2> s/form/from
[23:00] <Rabbitbunny> jgcampbell300: Yes.
[23:00] <bgiarrocco> some sort of linux/unix box -- not sure what... It would be accross VPN
[23:00] <Rabbitbunny> nsouer: What does it matter what process are running?
[23:00] <BuckWild> sshfs rocks
[23:01] <nsouer> Rabbitthunny, server as in platform not application
[23:01] <_DGM_> distant2: then its unsafe to not encrypt it. When somebody steals it's relatively easy to read any data on another sytem if its not encrypted. They can completely ignore userrights and everything. They dont even need to be root on their system to do that
[23:01] <nsouer> bgiarrocoo, nfs is your answer
[23:01] <coz_> luckybunny,   whoa  ...something is seriously wrong then
[23:01] <coz_> luckybunny,  did you create a new user account?
[23:01] <Rabbitbunny> nsouer: Oh, so you meant to ask what OS..
[23:01] <bgiarrocco> what's nfs -- do i need to get it from apt?
[23:01] <distant2> _DGM_: yep. it didn't really get to me before, i wonder why!
[23:02] <BuckWild> distant2, the rule is pretty simple, if you have really sensitive data, you pretty much have to encrypt it...preferably with strong non-dictionary passwords and the strongest encryption mechanism possible
[23:02] <distant2> i have to find an encryption software for win at the moment.
[23:02] <luckybunny> I created 3 in the past week (I share the laptop, and having been using Uuntu for the first time this eek)
[23:02] <luckybunny> week*
[23:02] <coz_> BuckWild,   is  evolution-exchange package installed?
[23:02] <nsouer> Rabbithunny, stop being pendantic, he/she knew what I was asking
[23:02] <Rabbitbunny> bgiarrocco: network file share.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[23:02] <Rabbitbunny> s/share/system/
[23:02] <nsouer> great information there
[23:03] <headkase314> bgiarrocco, Tutorial -> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[23:03] <BuckWild> coz_, I had it installed at one point, is that the OWA one, or the one that tries to connect directly to exchange?  I've had both
[23:03] <_DGM_> distant2: if its really that important you will also need proper encryption software.. as it is also relatively easy to decrypt in some cases if they know what encryption is used.. and the type of it obviously
[23:03] <coz_> BuckWild,  I believe it is the one that tries to connect directly
[23:03] <BuckWild> coz_, I could get the exchange server email thing to work, but the calendar didn't
[23:03] <jgcampbell300> ok ... thank you ... you would not happen to know of any tools that would help me plan my network projects would you? I am trying to build a local domain at home and trying to figure out witch computers should have what roles to be the most effective
[23:03] <BuckWild> coz_, it said something about "Error opening calendar 'calendar'" or something when I tried to access it
[23:03] <bgiarrocco> thanks guys... how is that different from sshfs you talked about Rabbitbunny?
[23:03] <kreeper> what is ubuntu cloud best used for?
[23:03] <coz_> BuckWild,   check this out    http://motersho.com/blog/index.php/2010/05/14/howto-install-evolution-2-30-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[23:03] <BuckWild> bgiarrocco, NFS is unencrypted
[23:03] <kreeper> would it be good for a web server?
[23:04] <Rabbitbunny> jgcampbell300: I pretty much guessed until things stopped breaking. May want to consider some books.
[23:04] <distant2> _DGM_: is there any parameter for a better encryption (software) other than the number of bits-encryption?
[23:04] <BuckWild> distant2, http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads
[23:04] <bgiarrocco> ah ok -- I'd rather use sshfs then
[23:04] <bgiarrocco> or would it matter if its already across vpn?
[23:04] <jgcampbell300> lol ... i have sure been doing that ... I have reinstalled ubuntu on my 3 boxes im working with 3 times each today lol
[23:04] <BuckWild> bgiarrocco, doesn't really matter via VPN
[23:05] <_DGM_> distant2: since you're in #ubuntu, can i suggest just using the encrypt home dir feature?
[23:05] <bgiarrocco> great - thanks for the help!
[23:05] <headkase314> bgiarrocco, Howto -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[23:05] <BuckWild> bgiarrocco, SSHFS adds some encryption overhead, it's great for external networks, NFS is faster if encryption doesn't matter
[23:05] <luckybunny> coz_: Should I just insert the live disc and reinstall?
[23:05] <distant2> so there is a built-in feature for that.
[23:05] <BuckWild> coz_, thanks, I'll take a look
[23:06] <coz_> luckybunny,  if you dont have much to backup    I would  try that yes.... then if you want to install extra packages  ..and are not sure  if they are compatiable  ...come here first
[23:06] <jgcampbell300> well thanks for the info again ... im sure i will be seeing you guys later :)
[23:06] <coz_> BuckWild,  I am actually trying that  out now to see the difference
[23:06] <luckybunny> coz_: ok. Thanks
[23:06] <luckybunny> :)
[23:06] <Wormfall> Henkpoley: Do you remember me? I had the problem with my Ubuntu hibernating at bootup?
[23:07] <BuckWild> coz_, yeah, mapi, that's the one I used to get email working, it seemed pretty cool in that regard, now if only they could get calendaring working
[23:07] <coz_> luckybunny,  no problem... on this next install...just recall what you have installed later on in case it happens again...its a good idea to keep some sort of notes
[23:07] <henkpoley> Wormfall: hah, yeah. Again it's past midnight here :P
[23:07] <pil> hello everyone - I am on lucid ubuntu - sometimes my desktop freezes - especially when I am working in openoffice or in terminal, it automatically hightlights the text and I cannot get out of there no matter what I do -and from there on, everything freezes in my desktop - you think compiz triggers that because I have many compiz stuff working in the background.. anybody has any idea?
[23:07] <BuckWild> coz_, I don't know if I was running 2.28 or 2.30 tho
[23:07] <Wormfall> Henkpoley: I fixed the problem! turned out that I have to have my battery in my computer in order for ubuntu to boot up. I was running it straight through A/C power
[23:08] <coz_> BuckWild,  if its ubuntu lucid then it is the  2.28 I believe
[23:08] <BuckWild> pil, have you tried turning desktop effects off to see if it makes a difference?
[23:08] <Wormfall> Henkpoley: after i plugged my computer in and had the battery in, that fixed the problem. Using Ubuntu as we speak actually :)
[23:08] <distant2> _DGM_: wouldn't the built in encryption in ubuntu be weak?
[23:08] <henkpoley> Wormfall: but your computer did work using another OS ?
[23:08] <pil> BuckWild: honestly, I did not - I know it sounds stupid but I will now
[23:09] <distant2> BuckWild: i see that truecrypt is for entire disk encryption. i only need individual file enc.
[23:09] <_DGM_> distant2: i think its good enough really.. do you really think people will spend days trying to get your files ? are they really that important?
[23:09] <henkpoley> Wormfall: seems to me like your CMOS/PRAM was resetting while reading it, because of the missing battery
[23:09] <BuckWild> distant2, you can do either
[23:09] <Jordan_U> splnet: Any progress?
[23:09] <Wormfall> Henkpoley: yup windows booted normally.. I'm not sure if having your battery in is a requirement for ubuntu to boot? as in, it cna't boot off of a/c
[23:09] <_DGM_> distant2: are you storing secret cia information or something
[23:09] <nerdy_kid> how do i get a backtrace out of a program?
[23:09] <BuckWild> distant2, you can actually have a fully unencrypted drive, and use a file as an encrypted volume
[23:09] <Wormfall> Henkpoley: yea, but eitherway its fixed. Wanted to thank you for all your help!
[23:09] <pil> BuckWild: I thought maybe ithas the same problem like mine - the compiz thing was my idea of that problem thats why I said compiz
[23:09] <Rabbitbunny> nerdy_kid: use a debugger, like gdb.
[23:10] <discozohan> Hello! I am going to create software raid 10 with 4 hdd, and confused, what the values for "number of active devices" and "number of spare devices" ?
[23:10] <discozohan> 4 and 0 ?
[23:10] <distant2> _DGM_: not that much i believe. but data about other persons' stuff that's why, security info.
[23:10] <distant2> BuckWild: i... don't get it.
[23:10] <BuckWild> pil, turning it off would relieve any concern about that being the cause of the problem.  Personally, I've never had an experience with desktop effects causing freezes
[23:10] <Fagundes> anyone knows how to fix the dell inspiron 1525 webcam on ubuntu 10.4?
[23:10] <BuckWild> distant2, so if I have a hard drive that's mounted on /
[23:10] <pil> BuckWild: thanks so much..
[23:10] <BuckWild> distant2, I can make a file /something
[23:11] <distant2> _DGM_: does that home encrypt suggest multiple algos or is just a simple push button function?
[23:11] <_DGM_> distant2: then i'd recommend just using the encrypted home folder of ubuntu.. it will be good enough
[23:11] <BuckWild> distant2, and I can mount /something (the file) as a truecrypt encrypted drive
[23:11] <_DGM_> distant2: i dont know i've seen it in the setup when i installed 10 a while ago.. i have no need to encrypt my files so i didnt look at it
[23:11] <_DGM_> but i'm pretty sure its good enough :P
[23:12] <BuckWild> I wouldn't imagine that ubuntu would build in crappy home directory encryption, I'm sure it's using industry standard encryption mechanisms
[23:12] <BuckWild> I'm encrypting files other than my home directory :)
[23:13] <distant2> BuckWild: "create encrypted file container" is that it?
[23:13] <BuckWild> distant2, sounds about right
[23:13] <discozohan> Ping: is it ok to choose 4 active devices and 0 spare devices for software raid 10 ?
[23:14] <lov255> hello
[23:14] <distant2> BuckWild: yeah, i will test that out.
[23:14] <lov255> what is the dir /proc/modules ?
[23:14] <lov255> and do you happen to know why I can not get to it?
[23:14] <Rabbitbunny> lov255: /proc is a bad place to play.
[23:15] <lov255> ohhh
[23:15] <nerdy_kid> Rabbitbunny thanks :)
[23:15] <lov255> every time I try to sudo rmmod a .ko file it tells me that it can not find the module in /proc/modules
[23:15] <Rabbitbunny> nerdy_kid: np
[23:15] <cfedde> for some reason this 8.04 server wants to start networking in recovery mode.  and so it hangs about half way up.  Does anyone know a workaround?
[23:16] <lov255> Would that be because of the driver .c file before I compiled it?
[23:16] <lov255> <---is a noob
[23:16] <BuckWild> btw guys, I recently redid a lady I know's computer using Ubuntu (from windows xp) I had her bring all the peripherals she intended to use with it with her, and every single one of them worked fine
[23:16] <BuckWild> Ubuntu has come a long way in a short time
[23:17] <jgcampbell300> is there a way to find out what type of memory is in a computer from cli ?
[23:17] <BuckWild> I was really surprised when the printer/scanner fired up without a problem
[23:17] <Oer> BuckWild +1
[23:17] <jgcampbell300> like for instance find out if it is pc 2700 ecc etc
[23:18] <Oer> jgcampbell300, memorytype is hard to get, use sysinfo, it is not CLI
[23:18] <MorayJ> What make of printer/scanner was it?
[23:18] <lubun2> lov255, it means it's not loaded
[23:19] <benkevan> I'm getting http://pastebin.com/kdkWeFx6 .. xsessoins won't start.. but if I ssh -X to the box, x applications come up.. GDM / XDM won't come up (but I hear the noises) what gives?
[23:19] <jgcampbell300> ok thanks
[23:20] <JPeterson> I have a python program with  # -*- coding: latin-1 -*-, how do I get it to print "Häagen-Dazs" correctly in the terminal?
[23:20] <JPeterson> instead of replacing the ä with a ?
[23:20] <Marine_> Marine is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[23:20] <JPeterson> ie the file has the 1-byte-peter-letter cp1252/latin-1 character set
[23:21] <JPeterson> but the linux terminal seems to have another character set in my case
[23:21] <JPeterson> is there something similar to the windows "chcp 1252" command?
[23:21] <holocene> anyone know when the 10.04 point release will be?
[23:21] <iggy_> hey guys i have a dlink wireless adapter and i was on alien arena and it froze i restarted my computer and now i lost wirelees
[23:23] <thune3> holocene: looks like any day now: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-10.04.1
[23:24] <holocene> thune3, I hope so!
[23:25] <_DGM_> holocene: why? anything specific you need?
[23:25] <iggy_> hey guys i have a dlink wireless adapter and i was on alien arena and it froze i restarted my computer and now i lost wirelees
[23:26] <teunvD> iggy_ did you lose you wireless adapter, or your network?
[23:26] <teunvD> iggy_ is it still showing up on lshw?
[23:26] <_DGM_> iggy_: try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[23:27] <iggy_> teunvd the network the adapter blinks and when i unplug it it says connection lost but the only way i can get internet is through ethernet and whats lshw
[23:27] <synvilla> I failed miserably :(
[23:27] <teunvD> iggy_ nvm my comment, try what _DGM_ said
[23:27] <_DGM_> iggy_: whats the output of that command
[23:28] <iggy_> it said no device found did iwconfig seen it was wlan1 and then it out put nothing
[23:28] <iggy_> when i changed sudo ifconfig wlan1 up
[23:28] <iggy_> should i reboot
[23:29] <_DGM_> iggy_: pastebin the output of ifconfig please
[23:29] <intrusion> does anyone know of any AVR cross compilers?
[23:29] <holocene> _DGM_, I wanted to install on another box but not from a cd that requires 250MB addl download
[23:30] <_DGM_> intrusion: avr gcc
[23:30] <iggy_> _DGM_, np http://pastebin.com/aaVA98cY thanks so much
[23:30] <Rabbitbunny> intrusion: #AVR exists.
[23:30] <andyn> intrusion: avr-gcc?
[23:31] <intrusion> i tried that, but it still says it needs one. hmmm...
[23:31] <_DGM_> iggy_: ok try sudo dhclient
[23:31] <_DGM_> intrusion: be more specific please
[23:31] <BuckWild> coz_, that exchange stuff still isn't quite working, kind of a shame, at least it's come some way since I last looked at the problem
[23:31] <coz_> BuckWild,  oh man!  that's a shame
[23:32] <_DGM_> intrusion: the ubuntu package is named gcc-avr, but you also need avr-libc for it to work
[23:32] <BuckWild> coz_, I expect I'm not the only one who would like to rid themselves of outlook
[23:32] <coz_> BuckWild,   i cant think of another application to do this with MS exchange server
[23:32] <intrusion> i would if i could, i'm trying to configure avr libc, but when i run the code, it says it needs to be built with an avr corss compiler
[23:32] <andyn> _DGM_: funnily enough the package is gcc-avr but the binary is avr-gcc
[23:33] <_DGM_> andyn: yea i know :)
[23:33] <BuckWild> coz_, I tried something called DAVMail or something that was a daemon that actually worked as an intermediary between the exchange server and kind of turned the services that the exchange server provided into reasonable protocols (IMAP, CalendarDAV), but that wasn't quite working well either.  Not sure I'm sold on that as a solution either.
[23:33] <aeon-ltd> andyn: yeah probaably to avoid confusion as -avr could be a parameter
[23:33] <_DGM_> andyn: thats probably the naming convention of ubuntu. avr-something
[23:33] <_DGM_> woops gcc-something
[23:33] <andyn> yeah, since it's obviously a gcc extension or something
[23:33] <coz_> BuckWild,    go to ##linux channel ...they may have a solution that we are not aware of
[23:33] <_DGM_> iggy_: did that help anything?
[23:34] <coz_> BuckWild,  I am betting that opensuse may have applications that do this better  ....<< just a thought
[23:34] <BuckWild> coz_, yeah, not a bad thought
[23:35] <iggy_> im not sure let me reboot
[23:35] <iggy_> _DGM_,
[23:36] <_DGM_> iggy_: no, what was the output of dhclient ?
[23:37] <splnet> Jordan_U:  if you are still around.. I had to leave for the day. but it still didn't work. BUT... In partition manager there was an error with the partition. So I think I screwed up with gparted. This will have to wait until next week though
[23:37] <iggy__> _DGM_, it didnt work :(
[23:38] <_DGM_> iggy__: i needed the output of sudo dhclient :P
[23:38] <_DGM_> iggy__: please dont reboot just yet, because theres no need
[23:39] <tautos_priesas> server irc.ktu.lt
[23:39] <isakill> haha
[23:39] <Rabbitbunny> /connect must be too long.
[23:39] <holocene> what's the name of that lucid iso (maybe only 25MB) that allows you to boot and install over the network?
[23:39] <erUSUL> !minimal
[23:40] <iggy__> http://pastebin.com/rSyUh7BV _DGM_
[23:41] <Xase> Okay... so trying to fix overscan, anyone know -anything-?
[23:41] <jgcampbell300> ok i think i am getting confused about some terminology ... i am trying to set up a pdc dns and back up dns at my house ... would this be a local domain ... but i also want to setup a dyndns to link to my home net .. why am i getting so confused here ?
[23:41] <holocene> erUSUL, that did it .thanks
[23:41] <erUSUL> holocene: no problem
[23:41] <coz_> BuckWild,  did you try the ##linux channel yet?
[23:42] <Xase> /join #xorg
[23:42] <BuckWild> coz_, nah not yet, let me try that
[23:42] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  rvening
[23:42] <_DGM_> iggy__: hm i think you need to reconfigure the wireless settings. Have you tried doing so through the gui?
[23:42] <BuckWild> coz_, I apparently have to have a registered nick to go to that channel :)
[23:42] <coz_> BuckWild,  oh!   didnt realize that    sorry
[23:42] <_DGM_> BuckWild: just register yourself with nickserv
[23:43] <_DGM_> BuckWild: /msg nickserv help
[23:43] <DasEi> Xase: nvidia card ?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> !register > BuckWild
[23:43] <coz_> BuckWild,  I suggest that channel... and I am sure there are others...because this particular issue is not common practice with general users :)
[23:43] <Wiesshund> jgcampbell300 what are you trying to set up? might help someone answer you better
[23:43] <Xase> DasEi, No.
[23:43] <iggy__> _DGM_, its a belkin d_link i had to use the windows wireless drivers and ndiswrapper
[23:43] <Xase> It's an intel 4500mhd
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> iggy__: does the chip have no native driver?
[23:43] <DasEi> Xase: sorry then, don't know a tool for it
[23:43] <Xase> I know nvidia has an overscan feature.
[23:44] <BuckWild`> coz_, yeah I kind of figured :)
[23:44] <iggy__> ActionParsnip, i dont think so its the dwa-130
[23:44] <Xase> I don't need a tool, that isn't already included in Ubuntu.
[23:44] <hiexpo> coz_,  whats his prob > BuckWild`  that is ?
[23:44] <iggy__> ActionParsnip, if there is one please point me too it
[23:44] <Xase> I know there is a tool but I don't know how to use it.
[23:44] <BuckWild`> coz_, I'm actually running ubuntu on my work computer under virtualbox, it would be really cool to be able to fire up evolution or something on there and have it work instead of outlook, I bet it would actually save ram to do it that way too
[23:44] <jgcampbell300> ok ... my end goal is to have a samba4 server at my home ...
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> iggy__: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network    the make and model is moot
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> iggy__: we only need the product line for the chip
[23:45] <Rabbitbunny> jgcampbell300: If you're running linux on everything, you don't want samba,
[23:45] <jgcampbell300> well i have been reading all day on this stuff and i am having a hard time describing exactly whats in my head lol
[23:45] <coz_> BuckWild`,  mmm another issue may be that it is running virtually.... you might want to check into that as well
[23:45] <BuckWild`> coz_, I'm not running it virtually here :)
[23:45] <jgcampbell300> well i am runing linux on everything but i need to learn to build a domain that uses mac and windows as well
[23:45] <BuckWild`> coz_, I'm at home right now
[23:45] <coz_> BuckWild`,  oh ok  sorry I misread :)
[23:46] <Aemaeth> i need a daleks voice for linux so it can be superior
[23:46] <Rabbitbunny> jgcampbell300: Oh, you're trying to use the lesser OSs... disregaurd then.
[23:46] <nerdy_kid> i have an input latency issue with pulseaudio, so that if i try recording anything i get stuttering.  is there any way i might be able to fix this?
[23:46] <BuckWild`> jgcampbell300, I think that windows might be able to use NFS if encryption isn't an issue
[23:46] <iggy__> ActionParsnip, _DGM_  here you go and thanks http://pastebin.com/wubsE9tE
[23:46] <BuckWild`> jgcampbell300, and I'm pretty sure that mac can too
[23:46] <jgcampbell300> ok let me step back a bit ...
[23:46] <janicko> is anybody here who would help me to get my wireless router woriking? it is recognized, but it is not able to get on internet.
[23:47] <jgcampbell300> let me describe excactly what i have and need to do
[23:47] <Rabbitbunny> jgcampbell300: one line, remember.
[23:47] <hiexpo> janicko,  what kinda router ?
[23:47] <jgcampbell300> i have 3 computers one 2g and the other two are 1gig
[23:47] <jgcampbell300> oh ya sorry
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> iggy__: its a broadcom 43xx
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | iggy__
[23:47] <coz_> janicko,  I am probably the biggest "doof" with networking issues on this channel :)
[23:47] <Rabbitbunny> janicko: Describe this a little more, You have connectivity via cat5, but not wireless?
[23:48] <BuckWild`> hiexpo, I'm trying to figure out a workable way to access calendar/email from an exchange server on linux
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> iggy__: i think you got too bogged down with it being a dlink that you missed the smart bit
[23:48] <iggy__> no i bought the dlink wireless usb because the broadcom was such a pain in the ass to setup
[23:48] <BuckWild`> hiexpo, evolution works okay for email through the mapi plugin, but calendaring is another thing
[23:48] <janicko>  hiexpo: belkin F6D4230-4
[23:48] <hiexpo> BuckWild`, oh ok wrong guy here  lol
[23:49] <BuckWild`> I think I might end up just writing my own OWA google chrome extension
[23:49] <hiexpo> janicko,  is it pw protected?
[23:49] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: ok so i fixed my problem, it might have been because there was a space in the command :S
[23:49] <janicko> coz_: so you are the guy who i need then. I tryed second day and i just managed to get recognized router, but it still not working.
[23:49] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: thanks for your help
[23:49] <jgcampbell300> ok one 2g computer 2 1g computers ... i am trying to set up dns and back up dns on the 1/gs .. the big computer will run as a openchange server later on .... but i would like to set up a local domain at my house use dyndns to direct internet trafic to my house ... i am under the impresion i will need a pdc for this ... the pdc i think should be samba4 ... i think that is how it works but i just cant get this strait in my head
[23:49] <janicko> hiexpo: no it's not
[23:49] <Rabbitbunny> intrusion: That's nothing, yesterday I edited the wrong fil and complained loudly that the output wasn't changing.
[23:50] <coz_> janicko,  no I think you misunderstood me :)  I am the last person you want to deal with networking issues  ..honest
[23:50] <ubuntu> hi
[23:50] <ubuntu> can anyone here help me out... my X video is broken but the system boots into KDE.   I want to re-install the NVidia drivers in a command-line environment.  How do I start Maverick in command-line mode?
[23:50] <intrusion> Rabbitbunny: the joys of linux
[23:50] <hiexpo> janicko,  so you can connect to it wireless but no internet?
[23:50] <Xase> OVERSCAN help please. 720p Panasonic tc-p42c2
[23:50] <Rabbitbunny> jgcampbell300: Note that most residential ISPs will block your ports if you host. It's normally specifically barred.
[23:50] <iggy__> ActionParsnip, _DGM_  no i bought the dlink wireless usb because the broadcom was such a pain in the ass to setup i could not for the life of me get the laptops wireless card to work so i bought dlink and now im having a hard time with that
[23:50] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: oh hey :)
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: yo
[23:51] <erUSUL> ubuntu: #ubuntu+1 for maverick help
[23:51] <isakill> My wife and I are attempting to homeshcool our children and a lesson planner solution for linux is needed..  is there an answer?  Preferably a local solution not web based.
[23:51] <nerdy_kid> anyone know how to workaround this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/558813
[23:51] <Roey> erUSUL: thanks
[23:51] <coz_> ok break time... I am hungry :)  be back in a bit
[23:51] <DasEi> ubuntu: wron chan here, sudo service gdm stop
[23:51] <janicko> Rabbitbunny: i have connectivity on wire but when i try on wireless it is not woriking, even if it saying that there is connection
[23:51] <BuckWild`> jgcampbell300, are you trying to run some kind of company from your house or something?  that seems like quite a complicated home network you're attempting to create there :)
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> iggy__: the chip has a native driver, installable with the hardware driver item in system hardware
[23:51] <Rabbitbunny> janicko: Check encryption.
[23:51] <DasEi> janicko: throughput sufficient on wired meanwhile ?
[23:52] <Scunizi> isakill: even the web based versions you can run locally on a machine setup with apache..
[23:52] <jgcampbell300> well not really ... but i am trying to learn how to set a net up for that use
[23:52] <BuckWild`> jgcampbell300, PDC if I'm correct is a windows NT type of terminology, is there some reason you really need a "domain", because that seems like something Microsoft only shops tend to function with
[23:52] <Wiesshund> jgcampbell300 do you really need to run samba sharing from your home? not exactly clear on what your trying to attempt completely?
[23:52] <hiexpo> hey DasEi
[23:52] <Rabbitbunny> isakill: Might be a good resource for you  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=818907   don't stop homeschooling
[23:52] <iggy__> ActionParsnip, are you talking about broadcom cause i tried everything i asked here read tons of forums and couldnt get broadcom to work but now i bought dlink besides its better connection
[23:53] <DasEi> löle hiexpo
[23:53] <janicko> Rabbitbunny: what is that?
[23:53] <Rabbitbunny> janicko: WEP, WPA, WPA2
[23:53] <janicko> DasEi: yes
[23:53] <hiexpo> DasEi,  lole
[23:53] <DasEi> janicko: fixed interfaces file, too ?
[23:54] <Rabbitbunny> janicko: I dealt with this quite commonly when I was doing tech 1. I bet you've got the wrong password entered.
[23:54] <isakill> Scunizi, not really, because they are all subscription based.  Rabbitbunny I'll look at that link
[23:54] <BuckWild`> jgcampbell300, samba is also typically used as a file sharing technique (I think it might share printers too, etc.) but I'm confused by the terminology you are using, the east thing for me would be to try to understand how linux fits into this picture
[23:54] <tsLight> Any idea what package I need to install gcc "backward compatible headers"? (now deprecated, such as iostream.h).  I need it to compile an old project.
[23:54] <janicko> Rabbitbunny: i am not able to get it cose i don't know them
[23:54] <jgcampbell300> I need the windows side of things just for the knolage and some friends that come over ... the most important thing here is that i learn how to make this model work properly ... this is mainly for my own benefit so i can reproduce working environment in a office setting if i need to
[23:54] <BuckWild`> s/east/easiest/;
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> iggy__: if ndiswrapper works then i'd stick with it, 43xx normally uses the firmware cutter
[23:54] <thune3> nerdy_kid: i don't have a solution, you *already* have a workaround
[23:54] <Scunizi> isakill: I was thinking of the gpl versions of software for schools.. calendaring, grades, testing etc..
[23:54] <andyn> every time i try playing a video with totem my xubuntu lucid system crashes with blank screen, switching to text console doesn't work and after reboot xorg log says "Failed to submit batchbuffer: Input/output error". how should i start hunting down the problem?
[23:55] <hiexpo> !xubuntu
[23:55] <DasEi> !wireless | janicko
[23:55] <isakill> like edline?  you have to buy stuff like that
[23:55] <janicko> Rabbitbunny: i didn't put any password
[23:55] <jgcampbell300> ok ... i use ubuntu on everything at home ... my servers is where i dont have enouf knolage ...
[23:55] <Rabbitbunny> janicko: Hey look, we found your problem.
[23:55] <DasEi> janicko: first tell us which chip
[23:55] <Roey> DasEi: thanks for the service stop command; the thing is I need to boot to command-line mode to fix the NVidia drivers (nothbing to do with Maverick).
[23:55] <jgcampbell300> my brother and family use windows kuz they will not learn something new and better
[23:55] <janicko> DasEi: been there, done that, didn't help
[23:55] <nerdy_kid> thune3 i meant can i workaround the bug in pulse's config files?  like is there a line i can edit or would it require recompiling to fix it?
[23:55] <BuckWild`> jgcampbell300, trying to reproduce a windows domain type network in a home environment will probably run you quite a bit in licensing fees, besides, I'm still convinced that nobody really knows how to run a windows domain, none of the network people I've ever bumped into really have any idea how any of that works
[23:55] <Wiesshund> jgcampbell300 what is knolage?
[23:56] <DasEi> Roey: just ask
[23:56] <iggy__> ActionParsnip, yeah it was working i played alien arena it froze i shutdown and turned on only to find the connections were lost in the task bar the dlink usb is still blinking like it works and when i unplug it it says connection lost but i cant get wirless internet
[23:56] <janicko> Rabbitbunny: and what is solution?
[23:56] <jgcampbell300> i have found a few very interesting sites if you would like them
[23:56] <unique> if i want file.txt to be shared between two users what permission do i give? chmod or chown?
[23:56] <Guest79615> wifi problems, can't ping anything but have ip from comcast router via dhcp, on dell with broadcom-sta driver, how to troubleshoot from here?  ethernet connection to same router works
[23:56] <jgcampbell300> one tells you exactly how to set the samba4 up to be a pdc
[23:56] <Roey> DasEi: OK, how do I boot into the command-line mode?
[23:56] <Rabbitbunny> janicko: Figure out how to enter the password.
[23:57] <BuckWild`> jgcampbell300, if you want to be able to do windows filesharing, samba will do that for you.  If you're looking to share files across linux, windows and mac, I think SSHFS works in a lot of cases (you can use an SFTP client on windows), I hate SAMBA personally because of how slow it is, and I have no idea if it works on mac
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> BuckWild`: you should come to our lpace, most people here are MCP
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> BuckWild`: samba is a lot faster than sshfs dude
[23:58] <Wiesshund> samba is going to run slow as snot piped across the internet on a dsl or cable connection
[23:58] <jgcampbell300> ahh
[23:58] <DasEi> Roey: first you need kernel-headers and build essential, too, then it is a good idea to first remove old driver, then ..
[23:58] <janicko> Rabbitbunny: but have no idea how to get password
[23:58] <Rabbitbunny> ActionParsnip: I'd like to see evidence of this.
[23:58] <BuckWild`> ActionParsnip, transfer wise, probably, no encryption overhead, however, latency is horrible in SAMBA
[23:58] <jgcampbell300> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499753 is that link btw ... very detailed
[23:58] <BuckWild`> ActionParsnip, NFS is faster than SAMBA
[23:58] <Rabbitbunny> janicko: It's your router... If you didn't set it, try the default password.
[23:58] <tsLight> Any idea what package I need to install gcc "backward compatible headers"? (now deprecated, such as iostream.h).  I need it to compile an old project.
[23:58] <ilyekkakai> how do I select my freepulse bluetooth headphones as the sound output device in lucid? I can't find any way to do it. You used to be able to just go to sound prefs and select it in intrepid... what happened? How do I select it now?
[23:58] <Roey> DasEi: I can fix the driver fine, I just need to boot to a command line to do it
[23:59] <BuckWild`> I like the "use anywhere" nature of a SSHFS connection
[23:59] <erUSUL> !find iostream.h
[23:59] <DasEi> Roey: sudo service gdm stop will log you off, install the new driver, reboot, and again run nvidia-xconfig , and restart gdm
[23:59] <janicko> Rabbitbunny: so no help here?
[23:59] <djonesuk> this must be some previous unheard of definition of "use anywhere" that I wasn't aware of
[23:59] <jgcampbell300> hmm ... i am thinking i should take a break for a while ... been reading all day ... this will problaby be much clearer in the monring :)
[23:59] <DasEi> Roey: sudo service gdm stop is what you want then