[00:28] <robin0800> Roey  ctrl alt f1
[01:28] <coz_> hey guys... we had a fellow in #ubuntu try to change the system sounds... with no success.... I am assuming it is the same on maverick.... is there a specific way of dealing with sound changes?
[02:18] <jamesw> hi all
[02:19] <jamesw> can anyone please help me, my hdmi out on my nvidia card is not working
[02:20] <jamesw> vga port works,maybe it is just a resolution issue
[02:52] <Nitsuga> jamesw: all nvidia is f**** currently
[02:52] <Nitsuga> until the driver gets built for the current version of Xorg
[02:53] <Nitsuga> you're lucky if you can actually use nvidia driver. Myself, i've to use nv.
[02:54] <jamesw> i am not sure if i am using it or not.. i installed proprietary ver and it didn't work so i rm'd my x11 config and now i dont know WHAT im using
[02:56] <Nitsuga> jamesw: you might be using vesa
[02:57] <Nitsuga> jamesw: you can tell at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:01] <bjsnider> nvidia will work with a minor change to the xorg.cof file
[03:01] <jamesw> yeah?
[03:01] <jamesw> please share!
[03:03] <bjsnider> Section "ServerFlags"
[03:03] <bjsnider>     Option "IgnoreABI" "true"
[03:03] <bjsnider> EndSection
[03:08] <jamesw> tyty
[03:17] <Bookman> I don't seem to be able to update due to the following error: This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.  Details are:  libgirepository1.0-1
[04:03] <Andre_Gondim> since my last upgrade my openoffice is misssing, any workaround?
[04:06] <jamesw> bjsnider: well thank you, it was able to boot with nvidia driver, but no hdmi out still.. hmm maybe it is sending a freq out of range
[04:06] <jamesw> it worked in karmic
[05:58] <sanjay> hey guys, I need some help. I am using Maverick Alpha3. After updating packages last night, my network-manager broke. Nm-applet is disabled all the time and I can't seem to enable it.
[06:03] <sanjay> sudo iwlist scan gave error "Interface doesn't support scanning. Network is down"
[06:04] <sanjay> but after 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up' ... it gave me scan results.
[06:04] <sanjay> however the network-manager seems to be disabled. When I right click on the nm-applet, 'Enable Networking' is unclickable
[06:04] <sanjay> Any help will be appreciated
[06:24] <LucidFox> How do I access the System menu on UNE?
[06:28] <chilicuil> hi, good morning, how do I upgrade to ubuntu maverick from the console?
[07:05] <billybigrigger> anyone having problems with the new kernel, and/or nvidia drivers?
[07:07] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.ca/1916790
[07:08] <billybigrigger> anyone getting this?
[08:11] <knittl> moin
[08:11] <knittl> jockey does not display any other drivers
[08:22] <knittl> but no errors in console either …
[11:59] <om26er> anyone using Unity ? are there icons on indicators?
[13:28] <shadeslayer> \o
[14:24] <mfraz74> When I created a live USB boot of Ubuntu 10.10 yesterday, it wouldn't boot and I had to alter syslinux.cfg to remove 'ui' from the last line
[14:24] <mfraz74> Where do I file a bug report for it?
[14:28] <Volkodav> mfraz74: at Launchpad
[14:38] <mfraz74> found it bug 608382
[14:46] <mfraz74> is it possible to have UNE without Unity?
[15:15] <detrix> Hi to all.  anyone here know if/when ubuntu will be getting gnome 3?  Or not.  I am running the alpha of gnome 3 now.  Not really liking it.
[15:24] <penguin42> detrix: I thought Gnome 3 got delayed
[15:25] <penguin42> hmm, reboot
[15:27] <sinurge> i have an nvidia fx6200 card. nvidia says i have to use the 173 driver. but as per latest upgrade xorg needs 256 otherwise it breaks .....how do i get around this.
[15:28] <Daekdroom> sinurge, you wait untill they update the 173 driver
[15:29] <sinurge> Daekdroom: any clue how long that would be
[15:30] <sinurge> cuz as of now maverick is all but broken, i have to go to recovery mode only other wise gdm just wont work
[15:30] <sinurge> is there wa way to remove it all and fall back on nove only
[15:30] <Daekdroom> sinurge, yeah, you should be able to fall back to nouveau
[15:31] <penguin42> anyone else seeing the battery indicator broken after todays update?
[15:32] <sinurge> Daekdroom: would you be able to help me how .. i put a nv in the xorg.conf file but of no use
[15:33] <sinurge> how do i remove xorg 1.9
[15:33] <sinurge> otherwise
[15:33] <Daekdroom> sinurge, completely remove the nvidia proprietary driver and erase xorg.conf. That should do it.
[15:33] <sinurge> ok thx will do that and try thanks
[15:42] <sinurge> Daekdroom: i removed all the drivers but still xorg.conf shows nvidia drivers how to remove that
[15:43] <yofel> sinurge: delete xorg.conf
[15:43] <sinurge> oh yeah darn me
[15:44] <sinurge> now let me see....another one...10.10 starts with sound but just after everything comes up it sets sound to auto mute ...is this a feature...if it is i dont like it
[16:08] <|gunni|> sinurge: You can try adding following to xorg.conf (at the beginning):
[16:08] <|gunni|> Section "ServerFlags"
[16:08] <|gunni|>     Option "ignoreABI" "True"
[16:08] <|gunni|> EndSection
[16:09] <sinurge> gunni: not working with that...remove all nvidia using nouveau now so lets see
[16:09] <sinurge> gunni:works only for newer cards 256 does not support legacy
[16:10] <|gunni|> Was just an idea, as this was the one working for me. Also adding "nopat" to grub was necessary
[16:11] <sinurge> what does that do...havent had the need to put that to lucid or maverick
[16:12] <Daekdroom> Does maverick currently support rgba transparency?
[16:56] <penguin42> anyone using an RT3090 wireless device on Maverick - I've just got a netbook that seems to have one and is unhappy with it on Lucid and wondered if Maverick might be happier
[16:58] <ChogyDan> penguin42: have you tried compat-wireless/LBM?
[16:59] <penguin42> no
[16:59] <penguin42> will do
[17:00] <ChogyDan> penguin42: looks like what you are looking for
[17:00] <ChogyDan> apt-cache search compat-wireless
[17:00] <penguin42> ok, will try it - I don't do wireless normally
[17:02] <ChogyDan> It is just a project to backport wifi drivers from later kernels to earlier ones.  You could also try just installing the maverick kernel onto lucid, which is what I happen to be doing.  Much less supported :P
[17:03] <penguin42> I've got maverick on my other two machines, but this little guy I've just got and thought I'd start it off easy
[17:09] <penguin42> linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[17:10] <ChogyDan> yea
[17:18] <penguin42> hmm still not happy
[17:45] <penguin42> ah, I found the RT2860.dat file in the source for it - it sems to want that, but it's not packaged anywhere
[18:45] <penguin42> woah, not seen that before - gnome-terminal just gpf'd and exaile quit
[18:46] <penguin42> ah, ok the exaile was just because it was started from another gnome-terminal
[18:48] <penguin42> hmm this might be related, none of my menu accelerators are working in Gnome
[19:47] <penguin42> anyone running gnome awake and can try something for  me?
[20:04] <billybigrigger> penguin42, whats up
[20:04] <penguin42> billybigrigger: When I start a gnome terminal it's taking a second or two to display the menu
[20:04] <penguin42> only after todays update - only one of two machines
[20:04] <billybigrigger> to display what menu?
[20:04] <billybigrigger> gnome-terminal's file menu?
[20:04] <penguin42> the menu bar at the top of gnome-terminal
[20:05] <billybigrigger> k let me update and try it out
[20:05] <billybigrigger> i haven't noticed anything unusual, have been opening tabs all morning
[20:05] <billybigrigger> nope all is good here
[20:05] <penguin42> billybigrigger: Can you have a tail -f .xsession-errors when you're doing it?
[20:06] <penguin42> hmm - I wonder why this machine is upset
[20:06] <billybigrigger> compiz enabled? even with compiz effects to the max the file menu is speedy as hell here
[20:07] <billybigrigger> only xsession-errors i have are related npviewer.bin
[20:07] <billybigrigger> nothing new while opening tabs, going through the menu
[20:07] <penguin42> no compiz - when gnome-terminal starts it's spitting out hundreds of errors about ubuntu-local
[20:08] <penguin42> that's what's slowing it down
[20:11] <billybigrigger> hmmm
[20:12] <billybigrigger> no errors here
[20:41] <knittl> hi. jockey does not display drivers to select. how can i troubleshoot?
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> knittl, perhaps jockey doesn't have any restricted drivers for you hardware?
[20:44] <knittl> if i install nvidia-current with apt-get it works
[20:44] <ZykoticK9> knittl, ummm that is an "issue" then
[20:44] <knittl> it does not display in jockey
[20:45] <tcopeland> What is you hardware?
[20:45] <penguin42> is there an ubuntu specific gnome channel?
[20:45] <ZykoticK9> penguin42, other then #ubuntu you mean ;)
[20:45] <tcopeland> Submit bug to www.launchpad.net
[20:45] <penguin42> ZykoticK9: For discussion of gnomeisms itself rather than the distro in general
[20:45] <knittl> nvidia quadro fx 360m
[20:46] <tcopeland> Just ask here
[20:46] <shadeslayer> knittl: you have a issue with nvidia drivers? or the installing part?
[20:46] <tcopeland> knittl: submit as bug to http://www.launchpad.net
[20:47] <shadeslayer> tcopeland: one sec
[20:47] <shadeslayer> see it might be a cache issue
[20:47] <knittl> shadeslayer: i have an issue with jockey not displaying drivers for installation if they are currently not in use
[20:47] <shadeslayer> knittl: fire up a terminal
[20:47] <knittl> no error messages in terminal when starting jockey
[20:47] <shadeslayer> you have maverick right?
[20:47] <knittl> but ok, terminal is up
[20:47] <shadeslayer> knittl: no no :)
[20:47] <penguin42> tcopeland: I've got a gnome-terminal bug triggering on one of my maverick machines and it's obviously ubuntu specific given the error but I don't know what Ubuntu adds that would trigger it: (gnome-terminal:11441): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_set_valist: object class `GtkImageMenuItem' has no property named `ubuntu-local'
[20:47] <knittl> yes, maverick
[20:48] <shadeslayer> knittl: type : sudo apt-get update
[20:48] <tcopeland> shadeslayer: Jockey doesn't display his options.
[20:48] <knittl> yeah
[20:48] <shadeslayer> knittl: done?
[20:48] <knittl> yeah
[20:48] <shadeslayer> now try jockey
[20:48] <shadeslayer> it should display the drivers
[20:48] <knittl> no
[20:48] <shadeslayer> or the ones its supposed to install
[20:48] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[20:49] <knittl> no, it just displays »there are no prop. drivers in use on this system«
[20:49] <shadeslayer> knittl: does it not say : Searching for drivers?
[20:49] <knittl> starting jockey-gtk from terminal. searching for available drivers …
[20:49] <knittl> no, it says that
[20:49]  * tcopeland is sure knittl's issue is a bug
[20:49] <tcopeland> Or maybe nvidia dropped support?
[20:50] <shadeslayer> tcopeland: actually nvidia-current is quite broken right now
[20:50] <tcopeland> Yes
[20:50] <shadeslayer> have to disable ABI to get it working
[20:50] <knittl> isn't there ubuntu-nvidia or ubuntu-x?
[20:50] <tcopeland> I know
[20:50] <shadeslayer> knittl: #ubuntu-x
[20:50] <knittl> no, it works better than nouveau for me
[20:50] <tcopeland> Totally froze my splash
[20:50] <shadeslayer> knittl: no believe me, its broken
[20:50] <knittl> because no resume from standby with nouveau
[20:50] <shadeslayer> ok see in jokey-kde it works
[20:51] <shadeslayer> so its a problem with jockey-gtk
[20:51] <knittl> jockey-txt does not display anything either
[20:51] <shadeslayer> now you can run ubuntu-bug jockey-gtk
[20:51] <shadeslayer> hmm
[20:51] <shadeslayer> maybe the modaliases are not installed
[20:51] <knittl> $ jockey-text
[20:51] <knittl> Searching for available drivers...
[20:52] <knittl> knittl@kbook:~$
[20:52] <knittl> modaliases are installed …
[20:52] <shadeslayer> knittl: kockey-text --update-db
[20:52] <tcopeland> Just use default x until version current is updates
[20:52] <tcopeland> updated*
[20:52] <tcopeland> Typing on iPhone xD
[20:52] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:53] <knittl> now jockey-text does not output anything
[20:53] <knittl> should i try purge and reinstall jockey?
[20:54] <shadeslayer> knittl: no, now try to run jockey-gtk
[20:54] <shadeslayer> because it doesnt show anything here either
[20:54] <knittl> »no prop. drivers are in use on this system«
[20:54] <shadeslayer> hmm.. can you paste output from terminal?
[20:54] <shadeslayer> of jockey-gtk
[20:55] <knittl> no output on terminal
[20:55] <knittl> zero. nada.
[20:56] <knittl> hrmmm. i think nvidia-common might've been missing
[20:56] <knittl> reinstalling jockey pulls that package too
[20:56] <shadeslayer> now i dont know what you need to get dbg o/p in gnome
[20:57] <knittl> YAY!
[21:23] <penguin42> anyone know what the ubuntu_menu_proxy is ?
[21:34] <jfi> penguin42,  /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/ubuntumenuproxy.h   ?
[21:34] <penguin42> jfi: Indeed
[21:35] <penguin42> that's what does stuff with ubuntu-local and is hence most likely to cause my problem
[21:35] <jfi> seems to be used by appmenu
[21:35] <penguin42> appmenu?
[21:35] <penguin42> what's appmenu?
[21:36] <jfi> I don't know, that's what google claims:)
[21:36] <jfi> https://code.launchpad.net/appmenu-gtk
[21:36] <jfi> maybe it is the new global menu?
[21:37] <penguin42> what's that?
[21:38] <jfi> it adds the menu in the top panel like in macos
[21:38] <Dink> hmm is there a way to view what compile options where used for a package/binary ?
[21:39] <Dink> Err basically want to see if a specific compile option was used for a file.
[21:41] <penguin42> jfi: Oh I didn't know such a thing existed
[21:41] <jfi> penguin42, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationMenu
[21:41]  * penguin42 hits a weird problem on this laptop - the touchpad has moved to absolute positioning after an upgrade
[21:42] <william> i just install MM 10.10 and updated the drivers and install a braodcom wireless driver on the system ... it says my wireless is still disabled .. any ideas ?
[21:42] <jfi> penguin42, be smooth! :-)
[21:43] <penguin42> It's making it rather tricky - I didn't even know that you could configure a touchpad for absolute mode
[21:44] <jfi> penguin42, maybe it has just increase the speed setting of the touchpad?
[21:44] <penguin42> jfi: No, I'm pretty sure it's in absolute mode
[21:45] <william> i just install MM 10.10 and updated the drivers and install a braodcom wireless driver on the system ... it says my wireless is still disabled .. any ideas ?
[21:45] <william> is there a way to enable the wireless driver
[21:45] <william> ??
[21:45] <crimsun_> william: did you reboot?
[21:45] <william> yes
[21:45] <crimsun_> william: which wifi chipset is it?
[21:46] <william> broadcom on a dell inspirion 1564
[21:46] <william> least thats what the hardware drivers downloaded
[21:47] <crimsun_> should work fine with 'wl'. Is that driver loaded?
[21:47] <william> how to check ?
[21:47] <crimsun_> open a terminal, then use: lsmod|grep ^wl
[21:49] <william> i got this wl                   1959630  0
[21:49] <jfi> penguin42, xinput set-mode RELATIVE ?
[21:51] <penguin42> not helping
[21:51] <jfi> so plug a mouse :-)
[21:51] <penguin42> I'm not sure I've got a spare; I do notice one difference in xorg.0.log - it says something about enabling a gesture plugin
[21:52] <bjsnider> william, what does iwconfig show you?
[21:53] <william> lo        no wireless extensions.
[21:53] <william> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[21:53] <william> eth1      IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:""
[21:53] <william>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[21:53] <william>           Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:24 dBm
[21:53] <william>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[21:53] <william>           Encryption key:off
[21:53] <william>           Power Managementmode:All packets received
[21:53] <william>           Link Quality=5/5  Signal level=0 dBm  Noise level=0 dBm
[21:53] <william>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[21:53] <william>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[21:54]  * penguin42 wires in synergy 
[21:54] <yofel> !paste
[21:54] <yofel> please ;)
[21:54] <william> do what /
[21:54] <william> ?
[21:54] <yofel> use a pastebin instead of pasteing many lines into the channel
[21:54] <william> ok
[21:55] <william> didnt know that
[21:55] <bjsnider> william, iwconfig says wireless is working (eth1)
[21:55] <william> ok so how do i see my wireless then
[21:55] <bjsnider> network manager?
[21:55] <william> cause the network connection says there is no wireless connections
[21:58] <crimsun_> err, have you attempted to associate to an access point/
[21:59] <william> i havent been able to since there is no listing that i can find
[22:00] <geser> does "iwlist eth1 scan" list them? (I hope I remembered the syntax correctly)
[22:01] <william> invalid argument
[22:03] <penguin42> william: What's in /sys/class/net ?
[22:04] <william> eth0 eth1 lo
[22:04] <penguin42> how many wired ethernets do you have?
[22:04] <william> 1
[22:05] <penguin42> if you look in either of them is there a wireless subdir?
[22:05] <penguin42> I have /sys/class/net/wlan0/wireless
[22:07] <william> i have sys/class/net/eth1/wireless
[22:09] <penguin42> well I guess that's promising - I don't know much about debugging wireless though
[22:09] <william> ok i think i can live with i have for now
[22:09] <william> i will work on it later tonight
[22:11] <khem> nvidia drivers stopped working on my T-61 with upgrades. When I install plain alpha3 all works ok
[22:12] <khem> seen in both ubuntu and kubuntu maverick
[22:14] <yofel> khem: bug 616023 ?
[22:15] <khem> yofel: ah nice
[22:15] <khem> I think its same
[22:15] <khem> lemme try workaround
[22:17] <khem> second issue is that when I try to install firefox in kubuntu its using Qapt batch installer and this installer does not honor my password for sudo access so I cannt install firefox or the codecs that rekonq prompts to install
[22:20] <yofel> JontheEchidna: ^
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Hi
[23:19] <sebsebseb> So what do people here think of the new installer?
[23:21]  * penguin42 hasn't run it yet - only done upgrades I think
[23:21] <sebsebseb> penguin42: I just done it in a vm :)  ,but  like this link well
[23:21] <penguin42> actually, I downloaded alpha3 iso last sunday to try it =- but then triggered a kvm bug that I ended up reporting instead
[23:21] <sebsebseb> http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-New-Ubuntu-10-10-Installer-Is-Live-152167.shtml
[23:22] <sebsebseb> it didn't let me install it properly into my vm it seems,  I gave up and closed it.   also  the getting codecs and updates, options,  it didn't like that, an error message instead
[23:22]  * penguin42 disappears to get some food - back in ~10m
[23:23] <sebsebseb> penguin42: i'll  do a alpha 3 vm next, well if I can without a load of issues,  and upgrade, and hopefuly be able to try the two new themes
[23:23] <sebsebseb> and the replacement clock for that matter which seems pointless really, since what is wrong with the Gnome clock, that also does weather?  Nothing?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> and the weather applet made by omgubuntu people, I have a feeling won't end up in 10.10 by default
[23:39] <penguin42> sebsebseb: Yeh, I don't like the replacement clock that doesn't do date
[23:40] <sebsebseb> penguin42: Doesnt' do date? what?
[23:40] <sebsebseb> you meant weather?
[23:40] <penguin42> no, I mean weather
[23:40] <sebsebseb> I haven't  tried it yet since...  read about it and such since omgubuntu though, and what not
[23:40] <penguin42> no!
[23:40] <penguin42> no, I mean date!
[23:40] <sebsebseb> what it doesn't do date either?
[23:41] <penguin42> sebsebseb: The old clock will show date and time on the panel; the new thing only seems to want to do time
[23:42] <sebsebseb> well even this basic clock  in  this development version of Gnome Shell  that I am using, does the day and time, and has a calander :D
[23:43] <sebsebseb> from what I have read about the clock  for 10.10,  the whole idea is pretty insane and pointless really,  just changing, because they can,  rather than with a proper valid reason.  However yeah I haven't tried just yet, since some issues when it came to virtual machinceing 10.10.
[23:44] <sebsebseb> penguin42: well I guess as long as,  people can still put the old clock there instead, things will be ok
[23:44] <penguin42> it makes me sad though - I don't see the point
[23:44] <sebsebseb> and most of the new users and what not, won't even know, that theres a Gnome clock  that does weather as well
[23:45] <penguin42> yep
[23:46] <penguin42> hmm is this the new installer? the one on alpha3?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> penguin42: I don't have a computer with Ubuntu pshyically installed anymore,  since 10.04 really got at me,  because of the Plymouth issues, which I hope are fixed for 10.10,  espesailly since how I put another distro on the computer that had problems with it in 10.04, and no problems at all for that distro.   Then yeah Gnome patches  and what not in 10.04, that weren't really for me,  or my not so technical brothers for that matter,  and then
[23:48] <sebsebseb> all of a sudden 10.04 refusing to let anyone log in,  So yep another distro went on instead.   I am not so sure about 10.10 at the moment, but I guess it will be quite a bit better than 10.04,  and at the end of the day thats what matters.
[23:49] <sebsebseb> penguin42: Would be nice for a few popular distros, to have a more proper market share on desktop computing, but that might not happen in the end since how things are really starting to go mobile.
[23:49] <sebsebseb> the installer is in
[23:49] <sebsebseb> later daily builds
[23:49] <sebsebseb> alpha 3 does not have it
[23:49] <penguin42> ah - I thought it looked familiar
[23:50] <sebsebseb> penguin42: the themes well
[23:50] <sebsebseb> :)
[23:50] <sebsebseb> the
[23:51] <penguin42> is it still called ubiquity?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> window buttons aren't mesed up by the looks of what I saw
[23:51] <sebsebseb> ,but  not tried just yet
[23:51] <sebsebseb> and yeah sure the installer hasn't changed its name, as far as I know
[23:52] <penguin42> ah right; just done an apt-get update and apt-get install ubiquity on an alpha3 live image and then run the installer
[23:52] <sebsebseb> penguin42: oh you can do that, for the newer installer?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> penguin42: that newer installer seems to have some issues at the moment
[23:53] <penguin42> sebsebseb: Well it certainly seems to be a different installer
[23:53] <penguin42> hmm, stalled - maybe not a good idea
[23:54] <sebsebseb> penguin42: I got well
[23:54] <sebsebseb> with my vm I got as far as it doing all the slides for the slide show
[23:54] <sebsebseb> then it just seems to be loading something, but takes quite a long while, so I just gave up
[23:54] <sebsebseb> after about 10 or so minutes
[23:55] <sebsebseb> penguin42: well I seen the installer  in my vm, as well as screenshots in this link and what not.  http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-New-Ubuntu-10-10-Installer-Is-Live-152167.shtml
[23:55] <sebsebseb> now I want to try the new themes,  installing alpha 3 into vm, and getting the updates, should allow me to do that :)
[23:56] <sebsebseb> however I had issues with vm before and 10.10,  anyway lets try that again now
[23:56] <penguin42> which vm?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> i'll do a new alpha 3 vm
[23:56] <sebsebseb> and get the updates
[23:57] <sebsebseb> I used the latest daily build for the installer
[23:57] <sebsebseb> well not much of an installer, since it didn't exactly install, but yeah
[23:57] <sebsebseb> Or did you mean the vm software?
[23:58] <penguin42> which vm software