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coz_hey guys... we had a fellow in #ubuntu try to change the system sounds... with no success.... I am assuming it is the same on maverick.... is there a specific way of dealing with sound changes?01:28
jameswhi all02:18
jameswcan anyone please help me, my hdmi out on my nvidia card is not working02:19
jameswvga port works,maybe it is just a resolution issue02:20
Nitsugajamesw: all nvidia is f**** currently02:52
Nitsugauntil the driver gets built for the current version of Xorg02:52
Nitsugayou're lucky if you can actually use nvidia driver. Myself, i've to use nv.02:53
jameswi am not sure if i am using it or not.. i installed proprietary ver and it didn't work so i rm'd my x11 config and now i dont know WHAT im using02:54
Nitsugajamesw: you might be using vesa02:56
Nitsugajamesw: you can tell at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:57
bjsnidernvidia will work with a minor change to the xorg.cof file03:01
jameswyeah?03:01
jameswplease share!03:01
bjsniderSection "ServerFlags"03:03
bjsnider    Option "IgnoreABI" "true"03:03
bjsniderEndSection03:03
jameswtyty03:08
BookmanI don't seem to be able to update due to the following error: This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.  Details are:  libgirepository1.0-103:17
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Andre_Gondimsince my last upgrade my openoffice is misssing, any workaround?04:03
jameswbjsnider: well thank you, it was able to boot with nvidia driver, but no hdmi out still.. hmm maybe it is sending a freq out of range04:06
jameswit worked in karmic04:06
sanjayhey guys, I need some help. I am using Maverick Alpha3. After updating packages last night, my network-manager broke. Nm-applet is disabled all the time and I can't seem to enable it.05:58
sanjaysudo iwlist scan gave error "Interface doesn't support scanning. Network is down"06:03
sanjaybut after 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up' ... it gave me scan results.06:04
sanjayhowever the network-manager seems to be disabled. When I right click on the nm-applet, 'Enable Networking' is unclickable06:04
sanjayAny help will be appreciated06:04
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LucidFoxHow do I access the System menu on UNE?06:24
chilicuilhi, good morning, how do I upgrade to ubuntu maverick from the console?06:28
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billybigriggeranyone having problems with the new kernel, and/or nvidia drivers?07:05
billybigriggerhttp://pastebin.ca/191679007:07
billybigriggeranyone getting this?07:08
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knittlmoin08:11
knittljockey does not display any other drivers08:11
knittlbut no errors in console either …08:22
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om26eranyone using Unity ? are there icons on indicators?11:59
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shadeslayer\o13:28
mfraz74When I created a live USB boot of Ubuntu 10.10 yesterday, it wouldn't boot and I had to alter syslinux.cfg to remove 'ui' from the last line14:24
mfraz74Where do I file a bug report for it?14:24
Volkodavmfraz74: at Launchpad14:28
mfraz74found it bug 60838214:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 608382 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Maverick images build on lucid fail to boot - different syslinux version" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60838214:38
mfraz74is it possible to have UNE without Unity?14:46
detrixHi to all.  anyone here know if/when ubuntu will be getting gnome 3?  Or not.  I am running the alpha of gnome 3 now.  Not really liking it.15:15
penguin42detrix: I thought Gnome 3 got delayed15:24
penguin42hmm, reboot15:25
sinurgei have an nvidia fx6200 card. nvidia says i have to use the 173 driver. but as per latest upgrade xorg needs 256 otherwise it breaks .....how do i get around this.15:27
Daekdroomsinurge, you wait untill they update the 173 driver15:28
sinurgeDaekdroom: any clue how long that would be15:29
sinurgecuz as of now maverick is all but broken, i have to go to recovery mode only other wise gdm just wont work15:30
sinurgeis there wa way to remove it all and fall back on nove only15:30
Daekdroomsinurge, yeah, you should be able to fall back to nouveau15:30
penguin42anyone else seeing the battery indicator broken after todays update?15:31
sinurgeDaekdroom: would you be able to help me how .. i put a nv in the xorg.conf file but of no use15:32
sinurgehow do i remove xorg 1.915:33
sinurgeotherwise15:33
Daekdroomsinurge, completely remove the nvidia proprietary driver and erase xorg.conf. That should do it.15:33
sinurgeok thx will do that and try thanks15:33
sinurgeDaekdroom: i removed all the drivers but still xorg.conf shows nvidia drivers how to remove that15:42
yofelsinurge: delete xorg.conf15:43
sinurgeoh yeah darn me15:43
sinurgenow let me see....another one...10.10 starts with sound but just after everything comes up it sets sound to auto mute ...is this a feature...if it is i dont like it15:44
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|gunni|sinurge: You can try adding following to xorg.conf (at the beginning):16:08
|gunni|Section "ServerFlags"16:08
|gunni|    Option "ignoreABI" "True"16:08
|gunni|EndSection16:08
sinurgegunni: not working with that...remove all nvidia using nouveau now so lets see16:09
sinurgegunni:works only for newer cards 256 does not support legacy16:09
|gunni|Was just an idea, as this was the one working for me. Also adding "nopat" to grub was necessary16:10
sinurgewhat does that do...havent had the need to put that to lucid or maverick16:11
DaekdroomDoes maverick currently support rgba transparency?16:12
penguin42anyone using an RT3090 wireless device on Maverick - I've just got a netbook that seems to have one and is unhappy with it on Lucid and wondered if Maverick might be happier16:56
ChogyDanpenguin42: have you tried compat-wireless/LBM?16:58
penguin42no16:59
penguin42will do16:59
ChogyDanpenguin42: looks like what you are looking for17:00
ChogyDanapt-cache search compat-wireless17:00
penguin42ok, will try it - I don't do wireless normally17:00
ChogyDanIt is just a project to backport wifi drivers from later kernels to earlier ones.  You could also try just installing the maverick kernel onto lucid, which is what I happen to be doing.  Much less supported :P17:02
penguin42I've got maverick on my other two machines, but this little guy I've just got and thought I'd start it off easy17:03
penguin42linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic17:09
ChogyDanyea17:10
penguin42hmm still not happy17:18
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penguin42ah, I found the RT2860.dat file in the source for it - it sems to want that, but it's not packaged anywhere17:45
penguin42woah, not seen that before - gnome-terminal just gpf'd and exaile quit18:45
penguin42ah, ok the exaile was just because it was started from another gnome-terminal18:46
penguin42hmm this might be related, none of my menu accelerators are working in Gnome18:48
penguin42anyone running gnome awake and can try something for  me?19:47
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billybigriggerpenguin42, whats up20:04
penguin42billybigrigger: When I start a gnome terminal it's taking a second or two to display the menu20:04
penguin42only after todays update - only one of two machines20:04
billybigriggerto display what menu?20:04
billybigriggergnome-terminal's file menu?20:04
penguin42the menu bar at the top of gnome-terminal20:04
billybigriggerk let me update and try it out20:05
billybigriggeri haven't noticed anything unusual, have been opening tabs all morning20:05
billybigriggernope all is good here20:05
penguin42billybigrigger: Can you have a tail -f .xsession-errors when you're doing it?20:05
penguin42hmm - I wonder why this machine is upset20:06
billybigriggercompiz enabled? even with compiz effects to the max the file menu is speedy as hell here20:06
billybigriggeronly xsession-errors i have are related npviewer.bin20:07
billybigriggernothing new while opening tabs, going through the menu20:07
penguin42no compiz - when gnome-terminal starts it's spitting out hundreds of errors about ubuntu-local20:07
penguin42that's what's slowing it down20:08
billybigriggerhmmm20:11
billybigriggerno errors here20:12
knittlhi. jockey does not display drivers to select. how can i troubleshoot?20:41
ZykoticK9knittl, perhaps jockey doesn't have any restricted drivers for you hardware?20:43
knittlif i install nvidia-current with apt-get it works20:44
ZykoticK9knittl, ummm that is an "issue" then20:44
knittlit does not display in jockey20:44
tcopelandWhat is you hardware?20:45
penguin42is there an ubuntu specific gnome channel?20:45
ZykoticK9penguin42, other then #ubuntu you mean ;)20:45
tcopelandSubmit bug to www.launchpad.net20:45
penguin42ZykoticK9: For discussion of gnomeisms itself rather than the distro in general20:45
knittlnvidia quadro fx 360m20:45
tcopelandJust ask here20:46
shadeslayerknittl: you have a issue with nvidia drivers? or the installing part?20:46
tcopelandknittl: submit as bug to http://www.launchpad.net20:46
shadeslayertcopeland: one sec20:47
shadeslayersee it might be a cache issue20:47
knittlshadeslayer: i have an issue with jockey not displaying drivers for installation if they are currently not in use20:47
shadeslayerknittl: fire up a terminal20:47
knittlno error messages in terminal when starting jockey20:47
shadeslayeryou have maverick right?20:47
knittlbut ok, terminal is up20:47
shadeslayerknittl: no no :)20:47
penguin42tcopeland: I've got a gnome-terminal bug triggering on one of my maverick machines and it's obviously ubuntu specific given the error but I don't know what Ubuntu adds that would trigger it: (gnome-terminal:11441): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_set_valist: object class `GtkImageMenuItem' has no property named `ubuntu-local'20:47
knittlyes, maverick20:47
shadeslayerknittl: type : sudo apt-get update20:48
tcopelandshadeslayer: Jockey doesn't display his options.20:48
knittlyeah20:48
shadeslayerknittl: done?20:48
knittlyeah20:48
shadeslayernow try jockey20:48
shadeslayerit should display the drivers20:48
knittlno20:48
shadeslayeror the ones its supposed to install20:48
shadeslayer0_o20:48
knittlno, it just displays »there are no prop. drivers in use on this system«20:49
shadeslayerknittl: does it not say : Searching for drivers?20:49
knittlstarting jockey-gtk from terminal. searching for available drivers …20:49
knittlno, it says that20:49
* tcopeland is sure knittl's issue is a bug20:49
tcopelandOr maybe nvidia dropped support?20:49
shadeslayertcopeland: actually nvidia-current is quite broken right now20:50
tcopelandYes20:50
shadeslayerhave to disable ABI to get it working20:50
knittlisn't there ubuntu-nvidia or ubuntu-x?20:50
tcopelandI know20:50
shadeslayerknittl: #ubuntu-x20:50
knittlno, it works better than nouveau for me20:50
tcopelandTotally froze my splash20:50
shadeslayerknittl: no believe me, its broken20:50
knittlbecause no resume from standby with nouveau20:50
shadeslayerok see in jokey-kde it works20:50
shadeslayerso its a problem with jockey-gtk20:51
knittljockey-txt does not display anything either20:51
shadeslayernow you can run ubuntu-bug jockey-gtk20:51
shadeslayerhmm20:51
shadeslayermaybe the modaliases are not installed20:51
knittl$ jockey-text20:51
knittlSearching for available drivers...20:51
knittlknittl@kbook:~$20:52
knittlmodaliases are installed …20:52
shadeslayerknittl: kockey-text --update-db20:52
tcopelandJust use default x until version current is updates20:52
tcopelandupdated*20:52
tcopelandTyping on iPhone xD20:52
shadeslayer:)20:52
knittlnow jockey-text does not output anything20:53
knittlshould i try purge and reinstall jockey?20:53
shadeslayerknittl: no, now try to run jockey-gtk20:54
shadeslayerbecause it doesnt show anything here either20:54
knittl»no prop. drivers are in use on this system«20:54
shadeslayerhmm.. can you paste output from terminal?20:54
shadeslayerof jockey-gtk20:54
knittlno output on terminal20:55
knittlzero. nada.20:55
knittlhrmmm. i think nvidia-common might've been missing20:56
knittlreinstalling jockey pulls that package too20:56
shadeslayernow i dont know what you need to get dbg o/p in gnome20:56
knittlYAY!20:57
penguin42anyone know what the ubuntu_menu_proxy is ?21:23
jfipenguin42,  /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/ubuntumenuproxy.h   ?21:34
penguin42jfi: Indeed21:34
penguin42that's what does stuff with ubuntu-local and is hence most likely to cause my problem21:35
jfiseems to be used by appmenu21:35
penguin42appmenu?21:35
penguin42what's appmenu?21:35
jfiI don't know, that's what google claims:)21:36
jfihttps://code.launchpad.net/appmenu-gtk21:36
jfimaybe it is the new global menu?21:36
penguin42what's that?21:37
jfiit adds the menu in the top panel like in macos21:38
Dinkhmm is there a way to view what compile options where used for a package/binary ?21:38
DinkErr basically want to see if a specific compile option was used for a file.21:39
penguin42jfi: Oh I didn't know such a thing existed21:41
jfipenguin42, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationMenu21:41
* penguin42 hits a weird problem on this laptop - the touchpad has moved to absolute positioning after an upgrade21:41
williami just install MM 10.10 and updated the drivers and install a braodcom wireless driver on the system ... it says my wireless is still disabled .. any ideas ?21:42
jfipenguin42, be smooth! :-)21:42
penguin42It's making it rather tricky - I didn't even know that you could configure a touchpad for absolute mode21:43
jfipenguin42, maybe it has just increase the speed setting of the touchpad?21:44
penguin42jfi: No, I'm pretty sure it's in absolute mode21:44
williami just install MM 10.10 and updated the drivers and install a braodcom wireless driver on the system ... it says my wireless is still disabled .. any ideas ?21:45
williamis there a way to enable the wireless driver21:45
william??21:45
crimsun_william: did you reboot?21:45
williamyes21:45
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crimsun_william: which wifi chipset is it?21:45
williambroadcom on a dell inspirion 156421:46
williamleast thats what the hardware drivers downloaded21:46
crimsun_should work fine with 'wl'. Is that driver loaded?21:47
williamhow to check ?21:47
crimsun_open a terminal, then use: lsmod|grep ^wl21:47
williami got this wl                   1959630  021:49
jfipenguin42, xinput set-mode RELATIVE ?21:49
penguin42not helping21:51
jfiso plug a mouse :-)21:51
penguin42I'm not sure I've got a spare; I do notice one difference in xorg.0.log - it says something about enabling a gesture plugin21:51
bjsniderwilliam, what does iwconfig show you?21:52
williamlo        no wireless extensions.21:53
williameth0      no wireless extensions.21:53
williameth1      IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:""21:53
william          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated21:53
william          Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:24 dBm21:53
william          Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off21:53
william          Encryption key:off21:53
william          Power Managementmode:All packets received21:53
william          Link Quality=5/5  Signal level=0 dBm  Noise level=0 dBm21:53
william          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:021:53
william          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:021:53
* penguin42 wires in synergy 21:54
yofel!paste21:54
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:54
yofelplease ;)21:54
williamdo what /21:54
william?21:54
yofeluse a pastebin instead of pasteing many lines into the channel21:54
williamok21:54
williamdidnt know that21:55
bjsniderwilliam, iwconfig says wireless is working (eth1)21:55
williamok so how do i see my wireless then21:55
bjsnidernetwork manager?21:55
williamcause the network connection says there is no wireless connections21:55
crimsun_err, have you attempted to associate to an access point/21:58
williami havent been able to since there is no listing that i can find21:59
geserdoes "iwlist eth1 scan" list them? (I hope I remembered the syntax correctly)22:00
williaminvalid argument22:01
penguin42william: What's in /sys/class/net ?22:03
williameth0 eth1 lo22:04
penguin42how many wired ethernets do you have?22:04
william122:04
penguin42if you look in either of them is there a wireless subdir?22:05
penguin42I have /sys/class/net/wlan0/wireless22:05
williami have sys/class/net/eth1/wireless22:07
penguin42well I guess that's promising - I don't know much about debugging wireless though22:09
williamok i think i can live with i have for now22:09
williami will work on it later tonight22:09
khemnvidia drivers stopped working on my T-61 with upgrades. When I install plain alpha3 all works ok22:11
khemseen in both ubuntu and kubuntu maverick22:12
yofelkhem: bug 616023 ?22:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 616023 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nVidia card : X won't start since 1.9 update, no screens found" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61602322:14
khemyofel: ah nice22:15
khemI think its same22:15
khemlemme try workaround22:15
khemsecond issue is that when I try to install firefox in kubuntu its using Qapt batch installer and this installer does not honor my password for sudo access so I cannt install firefox or the codecs that rekonq prompts to install22:17
yofelJontheEchidna: ^22:20
sebsebsebHi23:19
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sebsebsebSo what do people here think of the new installer?23:19
* penguin42 hasn't run it yet - only done upgrades I think23:21
sebsebsebpenguin42: I just done it in a vm :)  ,but  like this link well23:21
penguin42actually, I downloaded alpha3 iso last sunday to try it =- but then triggered a kvm bug that I ended up reporting instead23:21
sebsebsebhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/The-New-Ubuntu-10-10-Installer-Is-Live-152167.shtml23:21
sebsebsebit didn't let me install it properly into my vm it seems,  I gave up and closed it.   also  the getting codecs and updates, options,  it didn't like that, an error message instead23:22
* penguin42 disappears to get some food - back in ~10m23:22
sebsebsebpenguin42: i'll  do a alpha 3 vm next, well if I can without a load of issues,  and upgrade, and hopefuly be able to try the two new themes23:23
sebsebseband the replacement clock for that matter which seems pointless really, since what is wrong with the Gnome clock, that also does weather?  Nothing?23:23
sebsebseband the weather applet made by omgubuntu people, I have a feeling won't end up in 10.10 by default23:24
penguin42sebsebseb: Yeh, I don't like the replacement clock that doesn't do date23:39
sebsebsebpenguin42: Doesnt' do date? what?23:40
sebsebsebyou meant weather?23:40
penguin42no, I mean weather23:40
sebsebsebI haven't  tried it yet since...  read about it and such since omgubuntu though, and what not23:40
penguin42no!23:40
penguin42no, I mean date!23:40
sebsebsebwhat it doesn't do date either?23:40
penguin42sebsebseb: The old clock will show date and time on the panel; the new thing only seems to want to do time23:41
sebsebsebwell even this basic clock  in  this development version of Gnome Shell  that I am using, does the day and time, and has a calander :D23:42
sebsebsebfrom what I have read about the clock  for 10.10,  the whole idea is pretty insane and pointless really,  just changing, because they can,  rather than with a proper valid reason.  However yeah I haven't tried just yet, since some issues when it came to virtual machinceing 10.10.23:43
sebsebsebpenguin42: well I guess as long as,  people can still put the old clock there instead, things will be ok23:44
penguin42it makes me sad though - I don't see the point23:44
sebsebseband most of the new users and what not, won't even know, that theres a Gnome clock  that does weather as well23:44
penguin42yep23:45
penguin42hmm is this the new installer? the one on alpha3?23:46
sebsebsebpenguin42: I don't have a computer with Ubuntu pshyically installed anymore,  since 10.04 really got at me,  because of the Plymouth issues, which I hope are fixed for 10.10,  espesailly since how I put another distro on the computer that had problems with it in 10.04, and no problems at all for that distro.   Then yeah Gnome patches  and what not in 10.04, that weren't really for me,  or my not so technical brothers for that matter,  and then23:48
sebsebseball of a sudden 10.04 refusing to let anyone log in,  So yep another distro went on instead.   I am not so sure about 10.10 at the moment, but I guess it will be quite a bit better than 10.04,  and at the end of the day thats what matters.23:48
sebsebsebpenguin42: Would be nice for a few popular distros, to have a more proper market share on desktop computing, but that might not happen in the end since how things are really starting to go mobile.23:49
sebsebsebthe installer is in23:49
sebsebseblater daily builds23:49
sebsebsebalpha 3 does not have it23:49
penguin42ah - I thought it looked familiar23:49
sebsebsebpenguin42: the themes well23:50
sebsebseb:)23:50
sebsebsebthe23:50
penguin42is it still called ubiquity?23:51
sebsebsebwindow buttons aren't mesed up by the looks of what I saw23:51
sebsebseb,but  not tried just yet23:51
sebsebseband yeah sure the installer hasn't changed its name, as far as I know23:51
penguin42ah right; just done an apt-get update and apt-get install ubiquity on an alpha3 live image and then run the installer23:52
sebsebsebpenguin42: oh you can do that, for the newer installer?23:52
sebsebsebpenguin42: that newer installer seems to have some issues at the moment23:53
penguin42sebsebseb: Well it certainly seems to be a different installer23:53
penguin42hmm, stalled - maybe not a good idea23:53
sebsebsebpenguin42: I got well23:54
sebsebsebwith my vm I got as far as it doing all the slides for the slide show23:54
sebsebsebthen it just seems to be loading something, but takes quite a long while, so I just gave up23:54
sebsebsebafter about 10 or so minutes23:54
sebsebsebpenguin42: well I seen the installer  in my vm, as well as screenshots in this link and what not.  http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-New-Ubuntu-10-10-Installer-Is-Live-152167.shtml23:55
sebsebsebnow I want to try the new themes,  installing alpha 3 into vm, and getting the updates, should allow me to do that :)23:55
sebsebsebhowever I had issues with vm before and 10.10,  anyway lets try that again now23:56
penguin42which vm?23:56
sebsebsebi'll do a new alpha 3 vm23:56
sebsebseband get the updates23:56
sebsebsebI used the latest daily build for the installer23:57
sebsebsebwell not much of an installer, since it didn't exactly install, but yeah23:57
sebsebsebOr did you mean the vm software?23:57
penguin42which vm software23:58

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