[00:00] <stochastic> Okay, off topic question for the day: What popular rock band/album/song from the 80's do you wish would be heard/played more often?
[00:02] <holstein> hmmm
[00:02] <holstein> i can come up with a 'play these less often' list ;)
[00:03] <stochastic> yeah, that's the easy list
[00:03] <holstein> maybe some 'hot for teacher'
[00:03] <holstein> more van halen in general
[00:03] <ckontros> Blaspheme!
[00:03] <holstein> hehe
[00:03] <ckontros> Oh wait. Play more or less VH? :)
[00:03] <holstein> well, thats up to you :)
[00:04] <stochastic> I vote more for VH
[00:04] <holstein> i like VH alright
[00:04] <ckontros> heh. "Van Hagar" :P
[00:04] <holstein> OH, and more from the 'back in black' album
[00:05] <holstein> i could hear 'girls got rhythym' quite a bit more
[00:05] <ckontros> Hell with that song. Every time it comes on the radio I hope, just for 1 micro-second that it's Metallica's "Fade to Black". I'm usually disappointed.
[00:06] <holstein> :/
[00:06] <ckontros> They start up the same way with the bells. :P
[00:07] <holstein> how about 'stone cold crazy' ?
[00:07] <holstein> its a cover metalica did on a compilation album
[00:08] <holstein> not quite the usual thing for them
[00:08] <ckontros> I'll go with Lars there. Though Freddie killed it as well.
[00:10] <ckontros> See, I hear most of the 80's songs I want to. Now, if we get to the 90's, I can name a bunch of crazy death metal. :P
[00:11] <stochastic> sweet, well thanks for the suggestions.  I've got a DJ gig contract coming up for a regular 80's/90's night and I want to steer away from the Phil Collins fluff but still keep things popular.
[00:12] <ckontros> Oh oh. Well, that's different. :P
[00:12] <stochastic> yeah, death metal wouldn't exactly fit
[00:12] <holstein> chicks dig the collins
[00:12] <stochastic> yeah, I won't be able to escape him, but I can try
[00:12] <ckontros> stochastic: How, um, "fluffy" do you wanna get? Like Cutting Crew or something? INXS
[00:13] <holstein> what was that band that did 'cult of personality' ?
[00:13] <holstein> i liked that band alright
[00:13] <ckontros> Living Color
[00:13] <holstein> yeah
[00:14] <stochastic> ckontros, it's at a pub, so some regulars will get annoyed with too much fluff, but I could probably get away with a lot if I actually wanted to
[00:14] <ckontros> You know thw singer is Danny Glover's (Lethal Weapon) son?
[00:14] <ckontros> s/thw/the
[00:14] <ckontros> stochastic: Stick to hair bands then. :P
[00:15]  * ckontros whistles "Unskinny bop bop bop..." (from the 90's i think though)
[00:15] <stochastic> well I'm off to work for the night, talk to you guys later
[00:15] <ckontros> later
[00:16] <ckontros> stochastic: Make sure and come back. ;)
[00:17] <ScottL> stochastic, you can always rock the stones...exile on main street, sticky fingers era
[00:18] <ScottL> ckontros, i didn't know that about the Living Color singer
[00:18] <ckontros> ScottL: Nor did I 'till 2 weeks ago. :P
[00:55] <ckontros> Tinkering with text layouts: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6429/testjkk.png (ignore the bg)
[01:37] <ckontros> PM if needed.
[20:40] <ScottL> hi troy_s , got some stuff for you 
[20:40] <troy_s> ScottL: Awesome hit me.
[20:41] <ScottL> here's my quick example blender video:  http://vimeo.com/14034958
[20:42] <ScottL> troy_s, and here's some logo concepts i was working on
[20:42] <troy_s> ScottL: LOL. You pulled off your first baby steps with a greenscreen I see.
[20:43] <ScottL> troy_s, next i'm going to do a screen in screen, well four screens where i hand stuff to myself and around the four cubes
[20:43] <ScottL> troy_s, here's some stuff that cory was working on  http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6429/testjkk.png
[20:43] <troy_s> ScottL: You have some green fringing there which means you need to do a little bit of channel futzing. You basically need to either blur a channel (if you break down the source using the break down nodes), erode a channel and blur it, or such tricks.
[20:43] <troy_s> ScottL: How did you find sync?
[20:43] <ScottL> blender is just freaking awesome, powerful, and accessible in everyone
[20:44] <ScottL> troy_s, i zoomed in and watched my hands in time to the music (not very sophisticated or prescient but it worked)
[20:44] <troy_s> ScottL: You need to pay attention to float values with syncing too. North American 30fps is 30/1.001 for example.
[20:44] <troy_s> ScottL: The telltale is if you import footage and the audio lines up with the video you have it nailed.
[20:45] <troy_s> ScottL: But you have a little to learn from there. Looks like it was a success.
[20:45] <ScottL> troy_s, yeah, i had to adjust to 30fps to make the audio match the video
[20:45] <troy_s> ScottL: 30/1.001 <- Big difference.
[20:45] <ScottL> troy_s, yeah, i could have spent more time with lighting and "channel futzing" but it got the proof-of-concept done :)
[20:46] <ScottL> troy_s, yeah, i know, it will add up to something appreciable eventually
[20:46] <troy_s> ScottL: Also, you should probably try to get that fringing out of there. If you have any green "spill" (reflected green on your skin for example) you will need to extract that too. There are various approaches.
[20:46] <troy_s> ScottL: It's a great start though.
[20:46] <troy_s> ScottL: Good work on getting it done and not wallowing in unfinished land (as I currently am *sigh*)
[20:46] <ScottL> troy_s, i found this set of tutorials for blender also  http://vimeo.com/962573  i helped me set up my node editor layout nicely
[20:47] <ScottL> troy_s, i know you and cory had something for editing video and i tried it, but i like the simplisty of that one ^^^, it works well for my limited workflow
[20:47] <troy_s> ScottL: CGCookie has plenty of them there too.
[20:47] <troy_s> ScottL: If you use 2.5 there is a default layout "Video Editing" for example.
[20:48] <troy_s> ScottL: It is worth SVNing.
[20:48] <ScottL> troy_s, yeah, there are other problems with 2.49 as well, i had thought about building my own :)
[20:49] <troy_s> ScottL: There always are. Ubuntu is hideous at packages like that.
[20:50] <troy_s> ScottL: Any package that evolves at the proper pace, Ubuntu struggles with. They just grab a revision and include it.
[20:50] <troy_s> ScottL: Often has huge lumpy bits.
[20:51] <ScottL> troy_s, oi, i also had something like 450 hits on my blog over 5 days, and only five emails of people wanting to help
[20:51] <ScottL> troy_s, of the 5 that emailed to help, i think maybe one will do something....maybe stay, maybe not *shrug*
[20:54] <troy_s> ScottL: No clue. Not even really sure what Ubuntu Studio is. Never really was. 
[20:54] <troy_s> ScottL: That's probably part of the issue.