[00:00] <sebsebseb> Virtualbox  and a Sun Microsystems version, probably the last one, since my distro.  However even Virtualbox's that are about a year old, are still good.
[00:00] <penguin42> yeh, I use kvm - it doesn't like 3d stuff
[00:02] <sebsebseb> penguin42: this version is slightly later than what I used before upgrading the distro, so not that long ago.  anyway 3.1.8 is the version.  Also no KVM for me on here, since this computer does not do hardware virtaulization.
[00:03] <sebsebseb> (and Virtualbox OSE, if we are going to be really exact,  :D )
[00:03] <penguin42> yes, my main machine fortunately has VT but the others don't
[00:49] <penguin42> anyone know why coretemp isn't automatically loaded for sensors?
[00:49] <IdleOne> why are all my apps changing theme? they are all turning silver/grey
[00:51] <IdleOne> and my buttons have moved to the left again
[00:51] <IdleOne> hmm
[00:51]  * IdleOne is irritated
[01:04]  * penguin42 is not really in the mood to debug the gnome bug I seem to be hitting
[01:05] <Daekdroom> penguin42, describe it :3
[01:06]  * penguin42 did do up there ^   - menu bar taking ages to come up in a few gnome apps, gnome-terminal occasional crashes and gnome-terminal and nuatilus spitting out pages of errors into .xsession-errors - all seem related to ubuntu-local
[01:06] <Daekdroom> I didn't run into any of those, yet.
[01:06] <penguin42> it's only one of my 2 machines
[01:09] <IdleOne> nice... nautilus not opening
[01:11] <IdleOne> hmm killing the pid seems to spawn another nautilus
[01:11] <Daekdroom> It has been like that for quite awhile
[01:13] <IdleOne> just started for me
[01:13] <IdleOne> this issue I mean
[01:13] <Daekdroom> Ah. I was talking about killing nautilus bringing it back]
[01:13] <IdleOne> I'm assuming it isn't meant to
[01:14] <Daekdroom> IdleOne, could be the gnome-session process bring it back up
[01:15]  * shadeslayer pokes his 150 MB ppa upload
[01:15] <IdleOne> whatever, doesn't really bother me so much
[01:15] <Daekdroom> I find it quite useful when nautilus memory leaks
[01:18] <Ian_corne> 3;2~
[01:18] <IdleOne> strange thing is Places > Home Folder is now working again
[01:18] <IdleOne> heh
[01:18] <IdleOne> yay for problems that fix themselves
[01:19] <IdleOne> uptime 11 days, think I should reboot?
[01:22] <penguin42> ooh - my bug goes if I remove the appmenu-gtk package
[01:24] <penguin42> right, time for bed
[02:07] <Bookman> I am getting the following when trying to update:
[02:07] <Bookman> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[02:07] <bacchus> Rebooting was a bad idea :(
[02:16] <Sylphid> hey all, just upgraded to 10.10 and now setting swappiness appears to have no affect as after setting it to 0 and flushing swap space it is still sending half of the used memory to swap
[02:17] <Sylphid> also it appears that even though i am using only 328M of memory out of 2G it will not let me flush swapspace more than a few times
[03:09] <Volkodav> Looks like ure is the openoffice stopper /
[03:09] <Volkodav> ?
[03:12] <Dmstrdj> do drivers exist to run ati radeon video cards now
[03:15] <Jordan_U> Dmstrdj: Yes, but it depends on the exact model and whether you want open or proprietary drivers.
[03:29] <Dmstrdj> Jordan_U:  well its x1950 pro and i have tried the prop drivers on 10.04 already
[03:29] <Dmstrdj> Jordan_U: no open drivers worked at all
[04:13] <IdleOne> !nox
[04:14] <magicianlord> is there a fix to the maverick netbook cursor blinking problem that makes it not boot?
[04:14] <IdleOne> magicianlord: see above and after you login to text mode only type startx and that should start the GUI
[04:14] <magicianlord> thanks
[04:14] <IdleOne> magicianlord: if that doesn't work
[04:14] <magicianlord> when is this gonna be fixed?
[04:14] <IdleOne> soon we hope :)
[04:15] <IdleOne> you have nvdia?
[04:15] <IdleOne> nvidia*
[04:15] <IdleOne> I just had to remove nvidia-* to get GUI to load
[04:17] <magicianlord> didnt boot on both intel or nvidia
[04:17] <magicianlord> i just told my dawg to try the notext. we'll see if it works
[04:18] <IdleOne> ok
[07:03] <shadeslayer> 'lo
[07:59] <vish> can we not make a bootable usb image from a daily iso?
[08:00] <vish> i'v been trying to make one using usb creator and every time i create one.. the boot hangs with "unknown keyword in configuration file" and "boot: _ "
[08:02] <vish> but if i try ti make the live usb from a ubuntu 10.04 iso it works
[08:02] <vish> to*
[08:27] <ziroday> vish: edit syslinux.cfg and remove 'ui' from the file
[08:27] <vish> oh!
[08:27]  * vish tries
[08:28] <shadeslayer> vish: known bug i think
[08:28] <ziroday> shadeslayer: you have a bug report handy?
[08:29] <shadeslayer> no :(
[08:29] <shadeslayer> ill check logs
[08:30] <shadeslayer> bug 608382
[08:30] <shadeslayer> that one?
[08:30] <shadeslayer> no...
[08:30] <vish> shadeslayer: yeah , thats the same bug
[08:30] <vish> atleast the one i'm facing..
[08:30] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.com/nnrwdyef << from a few days ago
[08:32] <vish> doh! i spent the whole time yesterday thinking it was some bug in usbcreator! and was trying to figure out where the problem actually was.!
[08:32]  * vish should probably have asked here earlier ;)
[08:32] <ziroday> looks like evand is already working on the bug, nothing much more you can do vish
[08:32]  * shadeslayer gets back to project neon
[08:33] <vish> ziroday: yeah.. thanks for the workaround.. now gonna test it \o/
[08:33] <shadeslayer> frickin ppa builders .... :(
[08:34] <shadeslayer> vish: ssup with operation cleansweep ? i saw the progress counter at 11 % a few days ago :)
[08:34] <shadeslayer> since we are in FF now, i can spare some time for it :D
[08:34] <vish> shadeslayer: hmm.. i guess not many are interested in checking patches for projects that they are not really interested in ;)
[08:34] <shadeslayer> feel free to forward any kde* bugs you find ;)
[08:35] <shadeslayer> vish: everyone has a particular area of interest
[08:35] <shadeslayer> for eg. mine is kde :D
[08:35] <vish> shadeslayer: that workflow can be a lot easier/simpler than what it is.. which will make it easier to clear more bugs..
[08:36] <shadeslayer> yeah
[08:36] <shadeslayer> imo we need more of project tabs
[08:36] <shadeslayer> *tags
[08:36] <shadeslayer> 76651 Open Bugs :(
[08:37] <vish> shadeslayer: we need lp to handle the reviews , like bgo and tagging is an awkward workaround.. for which we have 12 tags. right now. ;p
[08:37] <vish> shadeslayer: yay , buggy kde ! ;p
[08:37] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[08:37] <shadeslayer> vish: most of the bugs on LP are upstream bugs
[08:37] <vish> yup
[08:38] <shadeslayer> some of them are truly in our packaging, but majority are upstream
[08:38] <shadeslayer> vish: oohh.. checkout google.co.in
[08:38] <shadeslayer> supreme
[08:39] <vish> oh! :)
[08:40] <vish> shadeslayer: looks like google.com is also the same? or is it just a cache..
[08:40] <shadeslayer> vish: if you go to google.com it redirects to .in
[08:40] <shadeslayer> of course you can actually go to .com
[08:41] <shadeslayer> but its the same doodle there too
[08:41] <vish> yeah..
[08:52] <boldak> Hello, I am using Kubuntu 10.10 Alpha 3 installed here to kicad and he does not work. The console says this: kicad: relocation error: kicad: symbol _ZTI12wxAuiToolBar, version WXU_2.8 not defined in file libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0 with link time reference. How to fix it? thx
[09:06] <boldak> Do you know where it could be a problem?
[09:52] <geser> my guess is that kicad needs a rebuild
[12:11] <penguin42> hmm, my touchpad is working today
[12:22] <ircipimp> Hi. I can't access http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ because of some "show_static" error displayed.
[12:23] <ircipimp> Is this an error on my side or a known issue?
[12:23] <penguin42> looks broken to me
[12:26]  * penguin42 wonders how OpenOffice.org managed to get itself uninstalled
[12:26] <BUGabundo> mornign
[12:26] <penguin42> Hi
[12:38] <Ian_corne> 1http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/2009/ga090815.gif
[12:38] <Ian_corne> oops
[13:25]  * BUGabundo clicks
[13:26] <Ian_corne> it's garfield :)
[14:55] <Ian_corne> anyone else notice stuttering when playing songs through rhythmbox?
[14:57] <Ian_corne> stream and songs
[15:16] <penguin42> anyone here running radeon open source drivers?
[15:17] <coz_> penguin42,  I am not sorry
[15:19] <Ian_corne> Me
[15:19] <Ian_corne> penguin42: I have to get lucky if I boot on .35
[15:20] <Ian_corne> sometimes X freezes
[15:20] <Ian_corne> sometimes it doesn't
[15:20] <Ian_corne> when it doesn't, it's good, and doesn't crash
[15:20] <penguin42> Ian_corne: I seem to have a reliable X crash I can trigger; bring up gnome-screensaver-preferences and toggle between the different hacks - even switching to blank sometimes does it
[15:20] <Ian_corne> errr
[15:20] <Ian_corne> sec
[15:20] <penguin42> Ian_corne: Oh, if you have that start up one try removing the set gfxmode in the grub boot - works for me
[15:20] <Ian_corne> let me save my work :p
[15:21] <Ian_corne> do I need to preview penguin42?
[15:22] <penguin42> I think so, for me it was doing it with the skyrocket screensaver from the rss-glx package but then I found it did it with most others as well
[15:22] <Ian_corne> I'm not seeing any crash
[15:23] <penguin42> ok, thanks for trying
[15:23] <Ian_corne> ah it just did
[15:23] <Ian_corne> :p
[15:23] <penguin42> ah !
[15:24] <Ian_corne> only seems to happen with fuzzy flakes
[15:24] <penguin42> does the backtrace look something like my bug 618236
[15:24] <Ian_corne> I don't know, X crashes and takes the terminal with it :p
[15:25] <penguin42> Ian_corne: /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old has the backtrace in
[15:25] <Ian_corne> ah
[15:25] <Ian_corne> I'll look
[15:26] <Ian_corne> yep
[15:26] <Ian_corne> exactly the same
[15:26] <penguin42> ok, can you confirm that one please
[15:26] <Ian_corne> I just did :)
[15:27] <penguin42> Ta
[15:27] <Ian_corne> I sometimes have random crashes to but can't reproduce them
[15:27] <penguin42> this seems a nice reproducable one
[15:27] <Ian_corne> uhu
[15:43] <WaY> hello
[15:43] <WaY> has anybody tried kde 4.5?
[15:45] <shadeslayer> WaY: me
[15:45] <shadeslayer> why?
[15:45] <BUGabundo> bbl
[15:45] <shadeslayer> BUGabundo: bye
[15:52] <WaY> shadeslayer, when you open amsn or jdownloader it opens a new window for each program on task manager?
[15:52] <shadeslayer> ermm.. dont have either of those :)
[15:52] <WaY> a new window like hanged up
[15:52] <WaY> it does not happends with any program that you use shadeslayer ?
[15:53] <shadeslayer> WaY: try running from konsole and pastebin debug output
[15:53] <shadeslayer> WaY: no
[15:53] <WaY> it gives no information from konsole
[15:54] <WaY> it's since I have upgraded to kde 4.5, with 4.4 did not happens
[15:56] <shadeslayer> oho
[15:57] <shadeslayer> WaY: alt+F2 > kdebugdialog > Select all > Ok
[15:57] <shadeslayer> then try again
[15:57] <WaY> ok, lets try it
[15:58] <WaY> where do I have to search for the debugging info?
[16:01] <WaY> still the same, no konsole debugging output info :S
[16:02] <blk> how can i "disable wireless" in nm-applet 0.8.1? it's grayed out (running as root doesn't make a difference - same for the "enable networking" tick )
[16:06] <shadeslayer> WaY: no idea mon
[16:08] <WaY> ok, thanks anyway
[16:17] <EliteHunters> My Kubuntu Maverick M live USB is not saving the apps to the USB nor the HDD, is there a solution to this and not re-installing all the apps all over again?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> EliteHunters: maybe because its not a persistent install?
[16:26] <EliteHunters> anyway to solve that problem at the moment
[16:27] <EliteHunters> cause I'm running off the USB at the moment
[16:27] <EliteHunters> cause I reloaded firefox and skype thus far
[16:28] <EliteHunters> and to go thru the process all over is tiredsome
[17:02] <shadeslayer> EliteHunters: oh sorry
[17:03] <shadeslayer> please highlight next time
[17:04] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:04] <shadeslayer> !persistent
[17:04] <shadeslayer> !usb | EliteHunters
[17:04] <shadeslayer> youll need to make the live usb again
[17:05] <shadeslayer> how did you make it last time?
[17:27] <EliteHunters> well shadeslayer, I didn't use the usb creator cause for some reason it was not working
[17:28] <shadeslayer> yeah known bug
[17:28] <shadeslayer> bug 608382
[17:28] <EliteHunters> I used another app at the time, but I can't recall the name at hand
[17:28] <shadeslayer> EliteHunters: use workaround there ^
[17:32] <EliteHunters> I can use the work around
[17:33] <EliteHunters> but I'll have to edit the casper file
[17:44] <dupondje> bluetooth-applet keeps crashing :(
[18:38] <CaptainKnots> does anyone know why the power icon in alpha3 is missing? I tried resetting my gnome panels to default and it didn't fix that
[18:38] <CaptainKnots> it just comes up with a black box with a red symbol in it
[19:37] <knittl> hi. why does nautilus take several minutes to be responsive after login? i cannot click anything on desktop nor open new windows. also desktop icons do not refresh
[19:40] <Ian_corne> "why"?
[19:40] <Ian_corne> because of a bug?, high disk load?
[19:40] <knittl> i guess it's because of a bug
[19:40] <knittl> previously it was syncdaemon which was eating IO time
[19:58] <WaY> hello
[19:59] <WaY> does anybody knows how to remove the "Page one" bar from kde?
[20:01] <yofel> what page one bar? o.O
[20:03] <WaY> when you make a fresh install of kubuntu maverick
[20:03] <WaY> it installs this bar by default on your kde 4.5
[20:05] <yofel> you mean a widget on the desktop? (can you get me a screenshot? didn't do a fresh installation for maverick yet)
[20:05] <shadeslayer> yofel: the pager
[20:05] <shadeslayer> +widget
[20:06] <yofel> ah
[20:06] <WaY> ok, I'm showing a screenshot
[20:06] <WaY> is it a widget shadeslayer ? I think is a bar
[20:07] <shadeslayer> WaY: http://imagebin.ca/view/u-uSsG34.html
[20:08] <WaY> thats not the one I mean
[20:09] <WaY> the one I mean is upper, I'll show you
[20:09] <WaY> fos, there is no gimp by default grrr
[20:10] <yofel> for screenshots? ksnapshot?
[20:10] <shadeslayer> im off to sleep anyways
[20:11] <yofel> gn
[20:13] <WaY> for printing 2 arrows jeje
[20:13] <WaY> http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9784/kubuntu.png
[20:13] <WaY> have a look please
[20:14] <yofel> where did that come from...
[20:14] <shadeslayer> oh that
[20:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: known bug on previous release
[20:14] <penguin42> CaptainKnots: I also have the missing power icon
[20:14] <shadeslayer> partly our fault
[20:14] <WaY> you know what it is shadeslayer ?
[20:14] <shadeslayer> WaY: yep
[20:14] <CaptainKnots> penguin42: did you upgrade from lucid?
[20:15] <WaY> ok, it's a bit... how can I say it
[20:15] <shadeslayer> wait..
[20:15] <shadeslayer> WaY: can you right click on the area?
[20:15] <penguin42> CaptainKnots: Yep
[20:15] <WaY> bothering
[20:15] <CaptainKnots> same
[20:15] <shadeslayer> eh>
[20:16] <WaY> over the Page one?
[20:16] <CaptainKnots> I wonder if it does that on a fresh install penguin42
[20:16] <knittl> seem so to be related to some user specific config
[20:16] <WaY> I can't close it from task bar
[20:16] <shadeslayer> WaY: the upper bar
[20:16] <knittl> and syncdaemon is still eating all io time
[20:16] <shadeslayer> ohhhh
[20:16] <penguin42> CaptainKnots: Dunno
[20:16] <WaY> you can configure that page
[20:16] <WaY> as another desktop
[20:16] <WaY> but you can't remove it
[20:16] <WaY> the only option you have over the bar is to unlock it
[20:17] <shadeslayer> found it
[20:17] <shadeslayer> WaY: right click on desktop
[20:17] <WaY> you can add also some widgets when you unlock it but you can't remove it
[20:17] <CaptainKnots> penguin42: I'm gonna try a fresh install of maverick on my desktop later....I'll let you know if thatr still happens
[20:17] <CaptainKnots> that*
[20:17] <penguin42> CaptainKnots: It's actually my least important bug I'm seeing :-)
[20:17] <shadeslayer> WaY: Desktop Settings > Activity > Type : Desktop
[20:17] <WaY> what else shadeslayer :D
[20:17] <CaptainKnots> penguin42: what other bugs did you find?
[20:18] <shadeslayer> WaY: and that should solve the problem
[20:18] <CaptainKnots> I'll check my install for them
[20:18] <shadeslayer> if not, just restart plasma to check
[20:18] <shadeslayer> kquitapp plasma-desktop; plasma-desktop : in krunner
[20:18] <shadeslayer> im off to sleep now... really :P
[20:19] <shadeslayer> yofel: ill explain what might have caused that tmmrw
[20:19] <WaY> mmm
[20:19] <shadeslayer> just remind me... if you want to know :)
[20:19] <WaY> it's not disappearing
[20:19] <WaY> I'm going to restart
[20:19] <shadeslayer> WaY: just restart plasma
[20:20] <penguin42> CaptainKnots: Oh I've got a whole bunch; two that stop it booting on this machine without fiddling with the boot stanza in different ways (set gfxmode and nointremap), a repeatable X crash, a few unrepeatables, a pesky one involving app menus to name a few
[20:20] <WaY> now I could remove it
[20:20] <WaY> I'm going to restart computer for another thing too
[20:20] <penguin42> oh, and Maverick now includes my kernel patch that means Google Earth works
[20:20] <WaY> thanks a lot shadeslayer
[20:20] <WaY> I'm back for telling what happened
[20:23] <CaptainKnots> penguin42: know what I noticed about maverick? I have an ati mobility hd 4670, and I dont need to install fglrx anymore. compiz runs very smooth, I get full 3d acceleration, and hd playback is seamless. before, even with fglrx, it was pretty messy, and even sd playback was choppy on an i7 with 8gb of ram
[20:23] <CaptainKnots> oh and also it doesn't disable networking everytime I hibernate anymore
[20:23] <penguin42> CaptainKnots: I've been running the open source driver since I got this machine and put Lucid on it
[20:24] <penguin42> CaptainKnots: With an HD4350 - but I do seem to be able to trigger a bunch of bugs in Radeon code
[20:24] <CaptainKnots> well my card doesnt play nice with the open source driver....I get tons of artifacting
[20:25] <CaptainKnots> laptop ati cards are far from easy to get working properly in any linux distro, especially newer cards
[20:25] <bdrung> I have installed indicator-datetime, but the datetime indicator doesn't appear in the panel. is there a option for enabling/disabling it or is it a bug?
[20:25] <EliteHunters> anyone has the repository address for Adobe Flash Player Plugin
[20:25] <penguin42> CaptainKnots: I was running lucid with xorg-edgers and found I could run assaultcube OK, but on Maverick with the standard libraries it has severe problems - so I don't know whether to try edgers again or if it's actually a regression
[20:26] <CaptainKnots> penguin42: you could always try it, and revert if necessary
[20:26] <penguin42> yeh, reverting it gets a bit messy
[20:28] <EliteHunters> I'm running off a live USB of Maverick M Alpha 2 and it still needs additional apps added to it.
[20:29] <EliteHunters> and the USB isn't set to persistent
[20:29] <EliteHunters> so I lose everything with I boot up
[20:30] <EliteHunters> so is there anyway to properly solve this with a usb creator software.
[20:32]  * penguin42 tries to figure out how to build a package with debug symbols
[20:33] <penguin42> can see it has the builds in the build directory but hasn't produced any .debs
[20:46] <BUGabundo> damn it
[20:46] <BUGabundo> some how killed my X
[20:47] <BUGabundo> did the usual safe upgrades
[20:47] <crimsun_> stop doing that! ;-p
[20:47] <BUGabundo> some X stuff got in
[20:47] <BUGabundo> now it won't boot fine :(
[20:47]  * BUGabundo tickels crimsun_ some more
[20:50] <bdrung> BUGabundo: buy other hardware ;-P
[20:54] <BUGabundo> bdrung: I like nvidia
[20:54] <BUGabundo> doesn't give me much trouble
[20:54] <BUGabundo> other then one month per devel cicle
[20:54] <bdrung> BUGabundo: ati with the free driver doesn't give much trouble. nvidia gave me enough trouble
[20:55] <BUGabundo> I can't even make my other laptop with ATI to LCD via hdmi
[20:56] <penguin42> IMHO maverick is having a whole bunch of radeon issues
[21:03] <BUGabundo> so what's the current method to make the blob work?
[21:03] <BUGabundo> abi something ?
[21:04] <penguin42> blob?
[21:09] <WaY> hello
[21:11] <BUGabundo> penguin42: nvidia driver aka blob
[21:11] <penguin42> oh, I dunno about nvidia
[21:11] <WaY> my kubuntu maverick is autorunning plasma-netbook even if it's amd64 version
[21:13] <Ian_corne> ok
[21:13] <Ian_corne> :p
[21:15] <magicianlord> yo
[21:17] <WaY> hello
[21:17] <yofel> BUGabundo: yep, ignoreABI - see bug 619023
[21:17] <BUGabundo> go go ubottu
[21:18] <yofel> er... wrong #
[21:18] <yofel> bug 616023 :)
[21:18] <WaY> I have same bug ubottu
[21:18] <WaY> is it solved?
[21:18] <yofel> WaY: is your screen smaller than 600 pixels in height?
[21:18] <yofel> !me | WaY
[21:19] <yofel> erm, smaller than 700 actually I think
[21:19] <WaY> nop, 768
[21:20] <yofel> hm, I'll check on the correct screen height, but you can change that after login in the settings
[21:20] <WaY> I can work without xgl until fix it :S
[21:22] <WaY> I'm going to try ignoring ABI
[21:22] <WaY> see you after X restart
[21:23] <BUGabundo> what a confusing bug that is
[21:26] <WaY> works that fix :)
[21:28] <WaY> I think there is a bug with notification area and amsn, and jdownloader. It opens like another app hanged in the kde 4.5 taskbar
[21:45] <magicianlord> Does anyone know how to make 10.10 Netbook iso boot? It freezes on cursor.
[21:46] <penguin42> at what point?
[21:47] <magicianlord> before the main selection
[21:47] <magicianlord> where it shown the debian text
[21:52] <penguin42> usb or cd?
[21:59] <magicianlord> both
[21:59] <magicianlord> it's a live iso, used usb-creator
[21:59] <magicianlord> also burned iso to dvd
[22:15] <zauzau> i was trying to install from gnome shell ppa but was having issues. I removed the ppa and now i need to run an apt-get install -f to fix dependencies which is pulling a bunch of kde packages to be installed. I don't want this. How do I remove these dependencies ?
[22:44] <EliteHunters> anyone has the repository address for Adobe Flash Player Plugin
[22:45] <penguin42> EliteHunters: It's just flashplugin-installer
[22:46] <EliteHunters> that's not working with the "sudo apt-get install" cmd
[22:48] <EliteHunters> is there something I'm missing in the cmd line segment
[22:49] <EliteHunters> or something I must do in the software management section in third party
[22:50] <yofel> flashplugin-installer is in multiverse
[22:50] <yofel>  *** 10.1.82.76ubuntu1 0
[22:50] <yofel>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/multiverse amd64 Packages
[22:57] <EliteHunters> yofel, how do I then install it into the system, if I'm using a Live USB
[22:57] <jpds> yofel: No mirror?
[22:57] <EliteHunters> nothing
[22:58] <yofel> hm, should work if you have network connection and ran 'apt-get update' once
[22:58] <EliteHunters> I can dl the *.deb file from adobe
[22:58] <EliteHunters> but the cmd line isn't working for install
[22:58] <yofel> jpds: oh, I'll switch back, my mirror was down yesterday
[22:58] <jpds> yofel: Oh? Which one were you using?
[22:59] <yofel> jpds: university mirror, ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de
[22:59] <jpds> Ah.
[22:59] <yofel> EliteHunters: for downloaded .debs you have to either use 'dpkg -i' or gdebi
[23:00] <jpds> yofel: It's a good idea to report mirror problems in #ubuntu-mirrors.
[23:01] <EliteHunters> yofel:- then what would be the correct cmd line statement to type?
[23:01] <yofel> well, it's back up already, so no point
[23:02] <yofel> EliteHunters: sudo dpkg -i *.deb       where *.deb is your .deb file
[23:02] <yofel> but at least for the ubuntu installer the package needs a working internet connection to work, not sure what the adobe one does
[23:05] <EliteHunters> its telling me that the dpkg-i cmd not found
[23:05] <EliteHunters> the file it there in the dl folder
[23:05] <EliteHunters> my internet is up and running
[23:06] <yofel> EliteHunters: 'dpkg -i' note the space in between
[23:06] <EliteHunters> my konsole cmd line was "sudo dpkg -i install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[23:07] <yofel> then 'dpkg-i cmd not found' doesn't make sense
[23:07] <EliteHunters> now it's telling me that the package isn't found
[23:08] <EliteHunters> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[23:08] <EliteHunters> dpkg: error processing install_flash_player_10_linux.deb (--install):
[23:08] <EliteHunters>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[23:08] <EliteHunters> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:08] <EliteHunters>  install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[23:09] <Jordan_U> EliteHunters: Just double click the .deb file.
[23:09] <penguin42> anyone else still having f-spot problems in Maverick?
[23:09] <EliteHunters> jordan_U: done
[23:10] <EliteHunters> the window is up and there's the option to install package
[23:11] <EliteHunters> the option however isn't working when clicked and double clicked
[23:13] <EliteHunters> Is there another option?
[23:17] <EliteHunters> jordan_U: Any other option that I can try?
[23:18] <Jordan_U> EliteHunters: How big is the flash drive? It might be better in general to just do a standard install.
[23:19] <EliteHunters> well I'm using a 1GB flash drive and yes I could install it on the system (laptop), but I wanted the option to test drive it like this
[23:22] <EliteHunters> and plus Jordan_U, soon I'll have to wipe this drive and install Maverick M Alpha 3
[23:23] <Jordan_U> EliteHunters: I meant that if it were a 3 or 4 GIG flash drive you could do a full normal Ubuntu install to the flash drive itself.
[23:23] <EliteHunters> true
[23:24] <EliteHunters> I could've dl the DVD iso
[23:24] <EliteHunters> perhaps it is still and option
[23:24] <EliteHunters> I just have to get a larger flash drive
[23:24] <EliteHunters> shouldn't be much of a problem
[23:24] <EliteHunters> not at all
[23:25] <EliteHunters> but nevertheless, I'm still try to troubleshoot the problem at hand with the adobe flash plugin
[23:25] <EliteHunters> cause firefox dl well using the sudo apt-get
[23:26] <EliteHunters> and skype I had to use the software management and then sudo apt-get
[23:26] <EliteHunters> and thoes two worked well
[23:26] <EliteHunters> it's just this one thus far
[23:26] <BUGabundo> !dvd
[23:26] <BUGabundo> !daily
[23:27] <EliteHunters> Ohh, even Nmap installed well using the sudo apt-get Jordan_U
[23:27] <BUGabundo> EliteHunters: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ still there
[23:27] <EliteHunters> I'll aim for the DVD iso of Maverick M Alpha 3
[23:28] <BUGabundo> why?
[23:28] <EliteHunters> just trying to get the one on the flash drive install apps without problems
[23:28] <EliteHunters> Alpha 2 is working well
[23:29] <EliteHunters> just some problems with installing adobe plugin
[23:29] <EliteHunters> the deb package isn't installing
[23:29] <EliteHunters> not from konsole
[23:29] <EliteHunters> and not from the package itself
[23:31] <EliteHunters> So I'm looking for some help with that problem
[23:34] <EliteHunters> if anyone can help, thanks.
[23:43]  * Jordan_U can't wait untill compressed btrfs is used on the LiveCD's because then *real* persistance will be possible.
[23:43] <Jordan_U> But that won't be for a while, if ever.
[23:50] <Daekdroom> Jordan_U, compressed btrfs on LiveCD? To make them able to ship more in 700MB?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> Daekdroom: No, the CD's are already compressed with squashfs (and btrfs compression will likely never be as good as squashfs as that's its sole purpose).
[23:52] <Jordan_U> Daekdroom: The advantage from btrfs is that you would still be able to get a lot of compression (hopefully enough not to be a noticeable regression from squashfs) but you could extend the btrfs filesystem from the CD to another (writeable) device.
[23:55] <penguin42> oh that would be kind of nice, although that could be done with aufs at the moment?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> Daekdroom: Currently with "persistance" when any file is modified the entire file is copied to the casper-rw partition. That's inneficient with large files and small changes, and more importantly the changed / added files are only recognised after the kenel is loaded. So with persistance you can't upgrade the kernel (even though the system will let you install the newer package without complaining)
[23:57] <Jordan_U> Even more cool is that if you wanted to "install" this modified system you could simply use btrfs tools to migrate the entire filesytem to a hard drive.
[23:58] <Jordan_U> penguin42: I hope that explains some of why btrfs would be far superior to what we have now with aufs :)
[23:59] <penguin42> I've heard that story about copying the whole file and I don't quite get it
[23:59] <penguin42> normally on any upgrade the whole file gets rewritten anyway