[00:00] <xissburg> tensorpudding: but GParted still shows these two partitions as one single unallocated partition
[00:00] <Barnabas> empewoow, I think you have to choose between using wicd and using the linux config files to setup your wlan nic
[00:00] <xissburg> tensorpudding: yes, exactly the same, they seem intact
[00:00] <Barnabas> empewoow, if you choose the /etc/network/ way look at this url https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[00:00] <empewoow> Barnabas: yes, i think so too
[00:00] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: line 90 says "and misteriously it is installing WinXP.."
[00:00] <tensorpudding> xissburg: okay
[00:01] <empewoow> Barnabas: ok thanks
[00:01] <Barnabas> in place of wlan0 use ath0
[00:01] <Barnabas> you have to add the wpa stuff to the networks file
[00:01] <xissburg> nUboon2Age:  oh it was because I got to boot in WinXP and it was installing Xp I dont know why...it then finished installation and is now working
[00:01] <tensorpudding> xissburg: so hit enter to go to the next section
[00:02] <xissburg> tensorpudding: on which partition?
[00:02] <tensorpudding> xissburg: on the one with your windows 7 files
[00:03] <thune3> al_: something like -- find /location/to/search -name "*.jpg" -size +100k -exec cp '{}' /your/target/dir \;
[00:03] <xissburg> tensorpudding: right..then?
[00:03] <Bookman> does AVerLife Cinema work with ubuntu? Or any other type of TV out?
[00:04] <tensorpudding> xissburg: it should take you to a section that looks like http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/File:Search_menu.gif
[00:04] <tensorpudding> xissburg: is that what it looks like?
[00:04] <xissburg> tensorpudding: yes
[00:04] <tensorpudding> does it have three partitions?
[00:05] <al_> thune3: ta
[00:05] <xissburg> how to take a screenshot in ubuntu?
[00:05] <xissburg> tensorpudding: it actually shows 4 entries
[00:05] <xissburg> one line is extended LBA
[00:05] <tensorpudding> xissburg: that means you have an extended partition somewhere
[00:06] <tensorpudding> that shouldn't be a problem, i don't think
[00:06] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: screenshot, there are several ways, but if you go to accessories do you have "Take Screenshot" there?
[00:06] <tensorpudding> but take a screenshot, yes
[00:07] <xissburg> I got with alt+printscr
[00:07] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: that works too. :)
[00:07] <xissburg> where should I paste it?
[00:07] <xissburg> suggestions
[00:07] <well_laid_lawn> !paste
[00:08] <well_laid_lawn> http://tinyurl.com/imagebin
[00:08] <xissburg> tinyrul.com/imagebin
[00:08] <xissburg> ops wrong keyboard lol
[00:10] <xissburg> tensorpudding: http://imagebin.org/109698
[00:10] <tensorpudding> xissburg: okay
[00:11] <unitedpotsmokers> hello guys.... we usually install ubuntu in a hardisk. how to install ubuntu in a pendrive?
[00:11] <tensorpudding> xissburg: what order were your partitions in?
[00:11] <tensorpudding> xissburg: and do those sizes seem reasonable?
[00:11] <xissburg> XP, 7, files
[00:11] <xissburg> yes
[00:11] <tensorpudding> xissburg: XP and 7 were the same size?
[00:11] <rooks> unitedpotsmokers, System -> Administration -> Startup Disk Creator
[00:11] <teunvD> unitedpotsmokers: there is a package called usb-creator that you can use to create a bootable pendrive
[00:12] <xissburg> tensorpudding: yes...it is XP 80GB, 7 80GB, files 140GB
[00:12] <tensorpudding> xissburg: this looks correct to me, try writing it.
[00:13] <xissburg> tensorpudding: so in this screen I go to Write?
[00:13] <rooks> unitedpotsmokers, it requirres iso of ubuntu, and i successfully created an pendrive desktop with it, with storage on pendrive :)
[00:13] <tensorpudding> xissburg: yes
[00:13] <xissburg> k
[00:13] <notwok> k
[00:13] <A|pHA> tensor thx
[00:13] <tensorpudding> and cross your fingers
[00:13] <A|pHA> Last question
[00:13] <A|pHA> Need help installing Vmware
[00:14] <al_> anyone know any good fiel recovery software for ntfs partitions? photorec is good but doesnt recover with filenames/dirs etc
[00:14] <tensorpudding> VMware needs to be purchased/downloaded from the VMware website, it is non-free software.
[00:14] <teunvD> A|pHA, which product are you trying to install?
[00:14] <xissburg> tensorpudding: now GParted shows the 3 partitions, but says the other ones are empty
[00:14] <A|pHA> yea you can get open source version free I thought
[00:14] <tensorpudding> al_: testdisk might be able to help you
[00:15] <tensorpudding> xissburg: empty?
[00:15] <xissburg> tensorpudding: yes.
[00:15] <A|pHA> Workstation
[00:15] <al_> tensorpudding: thanks, but irc testdisk is for stuffed partitions, this is a case of format over data
[00:15] <xissburg> tensorpudding: the used space has --, while the XP partition has the actual number
[00:15] <tensorpudding> xissburg: that is odd.
[00:15] <teunvD> A|pHA, what's the problem?
[00:16] <A|pHA> Well I would use virtual box but its not picking up my wifi drivers
[00:16] <tensorpudding> xissburg: you still need to restore the boot sector, i think
[00:16] <quidnunc> http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/events/stoc2010/19102/player.htm
[00:16] <quidnunc> ^ does thisi work for anyone?
[00:17] <quidnunc> (with moonlight plugin)
[00:17] <A|pHA> when i go to install Vmware I have no clue where it installed the repositories
[00:17] <quidnunc> A|pHA: Not in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[00:18] <xissburg> tensorpudding: but testdisk still show all my files
[00:18] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I have to reset I think
[00:18] <A|pHA> let me check
[00:18] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: reset?  what do you mean by 'reset'?
[00:18] <teunvD> A|pHA VMware is non-free software, you must purchase this so it's not in the repository
[00:18] <schoppenhauer> hello. is it possible to install wubi on a system that is encrypted with truecrypt?
[00:19] <xissburg> reset the other machine / reboot
[00:19] <A|pHA> hmm
[00:19] <tensorpudding> it should still boot into XP
[00:19] <xissburg> it is booting in XP directly
[00:20] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: so it doesn't show windows bootloader menu you mean (ie. 'directly')?
[00:20] <A|pHA> I have the serials I will just get a download of RS
[00:20] <A|pHA> Thanks
[00:22] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: yes not boot menu to choose OS
[00:22] <tensorpudding> the MBR was overwritten by XP with XP's bootloader
[00:22] <tensorpudding> there is probably a program in the 7 partition that will restore 7 to the MBR
[00:23] <nUboon2Age> ha m$ OSs don't even play nice among themselves. ;/
[00:23] <tensorpudding> XP doesn't play nice with anything, period
[00:23] <c3l> rsync vs rsnapshot for backups?
[00:23] <tensorpudding> 7 is much more charitable
[00:23] <xissburg> tensorpudding: good news, now I see my other partitions and all its files from WinXP :)
[00:23] <N3VV3K> hey guys i there any way i can shrink my hdd to fit a windows partition
[00:23] <tensorpudding> xissburg: :)
[00:23] <xissburg> now , need to fix MBR. ?
[00:24] <tensorpudding> you might be able to run easybcd from xp
[00:24] <tensorpudding> easybcd can restore windows 7 to the bootloader i believe
[00:24] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: i was confident that nothing had actually altered your win 7 partition.  Wubi certainly doesn't.  its probably just been problems with the Windows bootloader all along.
[00:24] <cristian> hola y hello a todos and for all
[00:24] <tensorpudding> err, nevermind
[00:24] <aeon-ltd> N3VV3K: look up gparted liveCD
[00:25] <xissburg> so easybcd does the job?
[00:25] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: xissburg i used easybcd before.  it worked quite nicely.
[00:25] <Fshy> Hey guys. Having a small but annoying issue with Ubuntu -- namely, I have an Aspire TimelineX 4820TG, but installing the FRGLX proprietary driver causes the laptop to blackscreen at start.
[00:25] <xissburg> I'll take  alook
[00:25] <tensorpudding> i'm not sure if it runs on windows xp
[00:25] <tensorpudding> it's worth a try
[00:25] <tensorpudding> vista changed the bootloader format so that it worked nicely with other OS
[00:25] <Fshy> I can reset it by using the nomodeset startup options, but I have to disable the FRGLX drivers to make it work.
[00:25] <Blue1> !vnc
[00:25] <N3VV3K> aeon_ltd in the disk utility
[00:26] <N3VV3K> i think thatll do it
[00:26] <cristian> he instalado ubuntu 10.4 64 bits y me va lento por lo que creo
[00:26] <tensorpudding> !es | cristian
[00:26] <Eder> Ola
[00:26] <cristian> me gustaria dezinstalarlo e instalar el de 32 bits a ver si va mejor
[00:26] <Fshy> Anyone got any ideas on my issue?
[00:27] <cristian> alguien me podria ayudar
[00:27] <Eder> ablas cristian
[00:27] <N3VV3K> tensorpudding, how do you pronounce your name
[00:28] <tensorpudding> N3VV3K: exactly how you would guess
[00:28] <cristian> ok, then we make it in english
[00:28] <Eder> ok
[00:28] <N3VV3K> tens or pudding or tenso r pudding
[00:28] <tensorpudding> cristian: you can install 32-bit the same way as 64-bit
[00:28] <Fshy94> Apologies. Dc'ed.
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Fshy: try this: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/   Use it until you get to the embedded video
[00:28] <tensorpudding> cristian: it will overwrite your old files, so do a backup if there is something you want to save
[00:28] <N3VV3K> lol
[00:28] <cristian> yes but first i want to uninstall it
[00:29] <tensorpudding> no need
[00:29] <cristian> and don know how
[00:29] <tensorpudding> installing 32-bit will take care of it
[00:29] <Eder> install the 64bits, to very much performance
[00:30] <Fshy94> ActionParsnip -- I love you.
[00:30] <cristian> so it will go in the same partition and the 64 will be erased?
[00:30] <tensorpudding> cristian: yes
[00:30] <avi_> hey, where are mounted CDs mounted to? Like if I wanted to SSH into my comp, and cd to a CD I have in the computer, where would I cd to? Thanks!
[00:30] <Fshy94> Will attempt, if it works, I'll post that so nobody else has that issue.
[00:30] <avi_> Because it's not in /cdrom or /media.
[00:30] <annnie> avi_: /dev/sr? something
[00:31] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: i found EasyBCD here: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
[00:31] <headkase314> For 32-bit versus 64-bit I've read that the executables (not program data) are on average 9% bigger and you get a performance boost on average 3-4% faster.  However having 4GB or more for memory should be the primary reason to choose 64-bit.  If you have more than 4GB and wish to use 32-bit you can also install a PAE (Physical Address Extension) kernel to have 32-bit and be able to utilize all your memory.
[00:31] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: like tensorpudding i can't tell if it will run from XP.
[00:32] <avi_> annnie, Not that I can see, I don't have a /sr folder, and I've checked the similarly named ones. Hmm
[00:32] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: :(
[00:32] <xissburg> then?
[00:32] <annnie> avi_: what does fstab -l say?
[00:32] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: i'm not saying it won't.  i'm just saying i don't know.
[00:33] <cristian> thanks a lot, and the last question is that i have on my computer also windows 7 64 bits and thatś why i installed ubuntu 64 but it seems it doesn work very well
[00:33] <xissburg> hehe ok
[00:33] <tensorpudding> cristian: which doesn't work well?
[00:33] <cristian> 64 once
[00:34] <cristian> it congelate very often
[00:34] <schoppenhauer> hello. is it possible to install wubi on a system that is encrypted with truecrypt?
[00:34] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: it is running till now
[00:34] <avi_> annnie, Interestingly enough, command not found. I'm using lucid, and the only thing fstab thing I have in /etc is fstab-decode. Hmmmmm
[00:34] <xissburg> it shows the partitions
[00:35] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: easybcd is running and showing partitions?
[00:35] <tensorpudding> cristian: that should not happen..
[00:36] <avi_> annnie, No wait, that's wrong. I've got fstab in there but it when I type fstab, fstab -l, or sudo fstab, the command isn't found..
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> cristian: it works pretty well, but 32bit is slighlty more supported in some situations but 64bit is great if you have more than 3Gb ram, pae is one solution though
[00:36] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: not exactly the partitions but the OSes, XP,7 and Ubuntu
[00:36] <annnie> avi_: ok try mount -l
[00:36] <tensorpudding> cristian: are you doing anything when it freezes?
[00:37] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: easybcd is showing OSes?  That sounds very promising.
[00:37] <Rogue1> heyhey?
[00:37] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: yes it does, and also show some details
[00:37] <xomp_netbook> 'Ello, I just purchased an Acer Aspire One D260 and am already tired of this Win7 Starter. Hoping someone can help me perhaps get ubuntu installed on this instead? it has no CDROM but I do have an external blank USB hdd I can use if need be.
[00:38] <annnie> avi_: the cd has to be mounted
[00:38] <avi_> annnie, Yeah that worked. I see my internal and external hard drives.
[00:38] <tensorpudding> xomp_netbook: the easiest way is to make a bootable usb pendrive using unetbootin
[00:38] <avi_> annnie, It is indeed mounted, or at least I can browse it in nautilus
[00:38] <cristian> iĺl be back in a secound please
[00:38] <annnie> avi_: the cd has to be mounted then you can talk to it
[00:38] <tensorpudding> xomp_netbook: but you may consider trying wubi or running ubuntu in virtualbox
[00:38] <A|pHA> what flash do i need for 10.4 tls ?
[00:39] <avi_> annnie, But shouldn't viewing and playing the contents in nautilus indicate that its mounted?
[00:39] <annnie> avi_: so wheres it mounted at?
[00:39] <xomp_netbook> tensorpudding, can a bootable unetbootin be used on a 1Gb pendrive? I'm afraid I have no larger pendrives.
[00:39] <headkase314> xomp_netbook, UNetbootin is what you are looking for -> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  You can make your blank USB harddrive bootable with an Ubuntu install with it but preferrably you would use a USB thumbdrive.
[00:39] <tensorpudding> xomp_netbook: the cdrom installer iso is 600 MB, it will fit
[00:39] <nUboon2Age> btw if you didn't know xissburg, wubi doesn't actually create an ubuntu partition -- it runs as a Windows program with most all the OS contained in one Windows file.  The only thing it changes is inserts an Ubuntu entry into Windows bootloader menu.  It does not alter the MBR afaik.
[00:39] <annnie> avi_: yes it seems to be mounted
[00:39] <xomp_netbook> ah ok, thanks guys I'll give that unetbootin a looksy
[00:40] <avi_> annnie, That's the question.. I think it should be in /media/cdrom0, but it's not.. let me try ejecting and remounting..
[00:40] <headkase314> xomp_netbook, remember it can be difficult to go back to Windows without an installation method so if things go south maybe someone can lend you a usb cd-rom to reinstall Windows with - be prepared.
[00:41] <annnie> avi_: well mount -l tells you where its mounted
[00:41] <xomp_netbook> headkase314, I have 2 other machines in the house running Win7 and an OSX machine too hehe. Linux needs to be in the family :P
[00:41] <c3l> what file would be the best place to put configurations such as xset foo etc that doesnt get saved?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> nUboon2Age: its actually an image file, the boot loader simply mounts the image and boots the data, just like an ISO can be booted in grub2
[00:41] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: so wubi is very light on the system, and really usually quite safe.  Real dual boot systems (such as what you've got now with Windows 7 and XP) are much more complicated than Wubi.
[00:41] <scott__> Is it OK to have some code in Drupal using .inc files that have regular forms instead of FAPI ?
[00:42] <nUboon2Age> ActionParsnip: oh, interesting.  thanks for that info.
[00:42] <phoenixandthor> hey guys, I'm trying to follow a tutorial here: http://conkyhardcore.com/beginners/tips-tricks/tt-2-if_existing/ But when I plug in a flash drive, it always comes up as a something other 'disk'. Is here any way to fix this? Look at the tutorial and you'll see what I mean
[00:42] <bryanwithy> I haven't used irc in a long time....how do I tell who's in here?
[00:42] <xomp_netbook> oh, last question, is there anyway I can be sure wifi will work with ubuntu on this netbook?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> bryanwithy: what client?
[00:43] <xissburg> so nUboon2Age what do I do in easyBCD?
[00:43] <bryanwithy> xchat
[00:43] <xomp_netbook> I'd hate to be arsed an install and have no wifi after heh
[00:43] <syslq> xomp_netbook: get bootable usb and try
[00:43] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: but at this point you've acquired quite a bit of experience with dual booting.  Not pleasant experience, i understand, but nevertheless you've covered many of the areas that can be problematic.
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> xomp_netbook: check the hcl, or you can just use the livecd / usb environment and test
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> xomp_netbook:  check the forums.. or test with a live cd/flash.  Most netbooks are decently well supported.
[00:43] <xomp_netbook> gotcha, thanks
[00:43] <IdleOne> bryanwithy: expand the nick list on the right of the screen
[00:43] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: off the top of my head i don't remember.
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> bryanwithy: the right hand window is the user list
[00:44] <headkase314> xomp_netbook, with the LiveCD you'll put on the USB pendrive there is a "try" option, try that first.
[00:44] <annnie> avi_: has that helped?
[00:44] <avi_> annnie, AH! I've found it! It was listed in mount -l, but I initially overlooked it because I didn't think that it would be located at /home/myuseracc/.gvfs/cdda mount on sr0... what a terrible place to mount!
[00:44] <florentin> hello
[00:44] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: yea...despite the suffering, it is worth because I learned something...but I'm not yet finished heh
[00:44] <bryanwithy> ah, I think I was confused...I thought xchat-gnome and xchat were the same thing
[00:45] <florentin> have you an idea for download the file from an xspf file?
[00:45] <syslq> avi_: it's coz of fuse
[00:45] <annnie> avi_: ok hope that helped
[00:45] <tensorpudding> xissburg: you first would need to install a windows 7 bootloader
[00:45] <bryanwithy> I found the nicklist in xchat-gnome, though
[00:45] <IdleOne> bryanwithy: they are different but basic layout is the same
[00:45] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: baptism in fire.  not fun but it will give you confidence that things can be fixed w/o having to reinstall.
[00:45] <tensorpudding> xissburg: i think this is done under the manage bootloader menu
[00:45] <headkase314> xomp_netbook, sometimes your wireless will come up as a restricted driver - you'll get a notificiation if so so you know you can install that when you put in on the hard drive.  Make sure you have wired network access, with wired you can usually work wireless into the picture.
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> bryanwithy:  most people that use xchat -   tend to HATE xchat-gnome :)
[00:45] <avi_> annnie, Yes, thanks a bunch!
[00:46] <tensorpudding> xissburg: then you would need to create a bootloader entry for windows 7
[00:46] <avi_> syslq, Ah gotcha. Any way to override that? Why should CDs be mounted with FUSE?
[00:46] <syslq> Dr_Willis: and for a good reason :), it lacks "dock to systray" if I remember right
[00:46] <annnie> avi_: np glad to help
[00:46] <syslq> avi_: dunno, check your mountd settings
[00:47] <geoffmcc> i cant seem to get a startup script to run as a user not root. I thought i did this b4 by chown the script i was trying to start. cant find help on web any pointers?
[00:47] <arnaildo> good night
[00:48] <syslq> arnaildo: have you pasted your script? And where did you put it?
[00:48] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: , xissburg here are some easybcd screens that might help: http://neosmart.net/gallery/album/view/neosmart/EasyBCD/EasyBCD+2.0/
[00:48] <annnie> geoffmcc: startup script needs to be root
[00:49] <kisuke> Any one know how I would make a dialog box popup on boot?
[00:49] <geoffmcc> annie - i know i did this b4 cause it a shoutcast server and not a good idea to run as root
[00:49] <mike1_> Ubuntu 10.04 fails to boot from CD or USB.  drops to busy box with initramfs error and failure to mount everything....
[00:49] <mike1_> any help
[00:49] <syslq> mike1_: which error?
[00:50] <syslq> mike1_: you probably just need to set reference to correct drive in grub
[00:50] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I already have an entry for 7
[00:50] <mike1_> no grub yet, trying to do a fresh install
[00:50] <annnie> geoffmcc: sure but  script may need to be root user
[00:50] <syslq> mike1_: cd verifys?
[00:50] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: xissburg: is this the bootloader menu you were referring to? http://neosmart.net/gallery/photo/view/neosmart/EasyBCD/EasyBCD+2.0/Bootloader+Setup/
[00:50] <syslq> geoffmcc: you could put the content of a script as function in rc.local if you dont know otherwise
[00:51] <syslq> Alghough it's ugly :)
[00:51] <geoffmcc> i know with redhat varients its startproc but cant find something with ubuntu that does same thing
[00:51] <nUboon2Age> it gives an option to install win 7 bootloader.  tensorpudding xissburg
[00:51] <geoffmcc> i could have swarn i did this with a counterstrike server before
[00:51] <annnie> syslq: you might confuse him
[00:52] <syslq> annnie: probably
[00:52] <BlueIceVirus> can soemone help me get my x-fi sound card working ?
[00:52] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: sure
[00:52] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: no. I was looking into Add New Enrty. I added one for 7 in its corresponding partiion (E:)
[00:52] <mike1_> good iso, I've tried booting from usb or CD.    it's just scrolling through /init: line 7 can't open /dev/
[00:52] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, i dont even know where to start
[00:52] <geoffmcc> ok, so lemme ask u this. how does apache run as www-data , thats what i want - shoutcast to run as say shoutcast
[00:53] <syslq> No sound or fscked sound?
[00:53] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, i cant find anything with recent instr
[00:53] <phoenixandthor> hey guys, I'm trying to follow a tutorial here: http://conkyhardcore.com/beginners/tips-tricks/tt-2-if_existing/ But when I plug in a flash drive, it always comes up as a something other 'disk'. Is here any way to fix this? Look at the tutorial and you'll see what I mean
[00:53] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: but tensorpudding made the point that FIRST you need to install the win7 bootloader.
[00:53] <R0b0t1> How can I mark ruby ask installed using ruby1.9 instead of 1.8?
[00:53] <R0b0t1> as*
[00:53] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, fresh install of lucid, no sound at all
[00:53] <syslq> Go from pulse audio to alsa in sound preferences
[00:53] <syslq> then check alsamixer
[00:54] <bryanwithy> I thought my sound card wasn't working once after a fresh install...it was just muted
[00:54] <BlueIceVirus> also, im kinda newb at linux
[00:54] <thiebaude> mine also bryanwithy
[00:54] <headkase314> syslq, do you mean "gstreamer-properties" in a terminal, that is where I set my sound system to alsa
[00:55] <thiebaude> see if its muted BlueIceVirus
[00:55] <annnie> I have 318 days shore leave
[00:55] <syslq> headkase314: no, I mean what I said, sound properties, from pulse audio 2 alsa
[00:55] <headkase314> syslq, okey doke.
[00:55] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, ok how do i get tehre?
[00:56] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: in the Bootloader Setup, I have no partitions to choose
[00:56] <BlueIceVirus> thiebaude, not muted
[00:56] <thiebaude> ok
[00:56] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: just looking myself :)
[00:56] <BlueIceVirus> :)
[00:56] <phoenixandthor> anyone?
[00:56] <BlueIceVirus> i went into gstreamer properties and set alsa and tried to test but error
[00:57] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: so are you looking at a screen like http://neosmart.net/gallery/photo/view/neosmart/EasyBCD/EasyBCD+2.0/Bootloader+Setup/
[00:57] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: open terminal and type gstreamer-properties
[00:57] <BlueIceVirus> did
[00:57] <BlueIceVirus> or done
[00:57] <syslq> headkase314: you were right
[00:57] <headkase314> syslq, luck.  I learn more here than anything else ;)
[00:58] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: you choose alsa?
[00:58] <BlueIceVirus> ues
[00:58] <BlueIceVirus> yes
[00:58] <syslq> headkase314: it was in the menu in some old releases under sound, but it just works now for several releases
[00:58] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: test?
[00:58] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, error
[00:58] <syslq> What does it say?
[00:59] <cristian> iḿ back.....like james brown.....hihihihi
[00:59] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: if you are looking at a screen like ^^^ the second section/lower right hand side where it says MBR Configuration Options is the part where you can install Win 7 bootloader.  The part above that doesn't matter right now.
[00:59] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, let me copy and paste
[00:59] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: if it's a lot use pastebin
[00:59] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, what is pastebin?
[01:00] <cristian> i was just saing that ubuntu 64 freezes a lot and i have 4gb
[01:00] <arricherekk1> I am running Ubuntu in VirtualBox.  I have installed Guest Additions.  xrandr indicates that my maximum resolution is 800x600; how can I change this?
[01:00] <annnie> BlueIceVirus: check out pastebin.org
[01:00] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: http://pastebin.com/
[01:00] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: ok I did it, I clicked the red button
[01:00] <xissburg> but shouldnt there be partitions?
[01:01] <bryanwithy> I have a strange problem that I haven't been able to fix...Ubuntu does not see audio CDs when I load them into my CD or DVD drive, but data CDs work fine.  If I reboot with an audio CD loaded, then I can see it....
[01:01] <cristian> and computer is cuore 2 duo
[01:01] <annnie> xissburg: you should have taken the BLUE one!!!
[01:01] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: if you're asking about the section on the top right, that is only talking about *external* media and *those* partitions.
[01:01] <nUboon2Age> annnie: ha, ha, not the right moment.
[01:02] <BlueIceVirus> http://pastebin.com/0AnCwz7a
[01:02] <annnie> nUboon2Age: wasted I know  :P
[01:02] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, did that work?
[01:02] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: http://imagebin.org/109710
[01:03] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: it did
[01:03] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: okay xissburg has installed the win 7 bootloader, is there more xissburg needs to do with easybcd?
[01:03] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, yes.  Below the Alsa setting there should be a device selection drop-down box, what is in that box for choices?
[01:03] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, thats a nifty site
[01:03] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: those "Deleted partition"s look suspicious
[01:03] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: can you choose a device in gstreamer properties
[01:03] <tensorpudding> xissburg: you need to create an entry for Windows 7
[01:03] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I already have it http://imagebin.org/109710
[01:04] <Masshuu> Ubuntu 11.10 Obstinate Ocelot
[01:04] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, choices are: Default; nvidia hdmi; and CA0110 Digital
[01:04] <tensorpudding> xissburg: that looks like it could be right
[01:05] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: what is now the choosen one
[01:05] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, default
[01:05] <tensorpudding> the only way to know for sure would be to reboot, though that could be risky
[01:05] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: does /dev/snd exists?
[01:05] <xissburg> tensorpudding: well.. that's what I have to do :P
[01:06] <BlueIceVirus> syslq yes
[01:06]  * nUboon2Age prayers of support for xissburg
[01:06] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314, did you see my reply?
[01:06] <headkase314> syslq, CA0110 Digital is an X-fi device: -> http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&q=linux+CA0110+Digital&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=e152ff60f580dc26
[01:07] <tensorpudding> xissburg: it would be really helpful to have a windows 7 support cd if you could get one for the future
[01:07] <xissburg> :)
[01:07] <syslq> headkase314: x-fi?
[01:07] <headkase314> syslq, that's what google is saying..
[01:07] <BlueIceVirus> syslq headkase314 from what I read, that it is a good sign that I can see that in the options
[01:07] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: try and choose it
[01:08] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, then test?
[01:08] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: yeah
[01:08] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: if that doesnt work check the content of /dev/snd dirs
[01:08] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: if that doesnt work check the content of /dev/snd dir
[01:08] <tensorpudding> xissburg: is it working?
[01:09] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, well no error this time, but I get the testing window with the bar going left to right to left that says click ok to finish, but I dont hear anything
[01:09] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: go to /dev/snd dir and check if all device files are in audio group (ls -la)
[01:09] <syslq> Although then logically there would be access denied error but still
[01:10] <j_dalmond> guys, is it possible to make firefox use qt theme instead of gnome?
[01:10] <BlueIceVirus> syslq im lost with that last step, I see the snd folder and then what?
[01:10] <headkase314> syslq, is it possible that BlueIceVirus has both analog and digital ports on his computer and the speakers are analog and only the digital is showing in gstreamer?
[01:10] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: cd /dev/snd
[01:10] <Guest97432> this may seem like a silly question, but....anyone here using mIRC?
[01:11] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, i did
[01:11] <xissburg> Now I have the  OS selection menu but I can't boot in no OS
[01:11] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: paste output of ls -la
[01:11] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, i did ls to list and see somethigns but I dontknow what they are
[01:11] <xissburg> problems with mbr and ntldr from the messages
[01:11] <jramsey> so i've just loaded ubuntu 9.1 (b/c 10 white screens the laptop) on a dell inspiron 1501, broadcom wifi; i've the bc wifi drivers loaded; i see no wifi love ... should i use wicd instead of networkmanager?
[01:11] <syslq> headkase314: could be
[01:11] <xissburg> tensorpudding: Im trying the XP CD which is the only one I have
[01:11] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: not ls, but ls -la and paste output
[01:12] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: can you relay what the messages are?
[01:12] <BlueIceVirus> http://pastebin.com/ti4EqLBi
[01:12] <jramsey> any comments on wicd vs. networkmanager?
[01:12] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: wait a mins
[01:12] <annnie> xissburg: thats very messed up
[01:13] <halvors> I am realy noob in this, but i have a file names start.sh in my home folder (this is an server) i wanto to start it up when system boot, how do that from command line?
[01:13] <tensorpudding> the windows bootloader is such a pain to deal with
[01:13] <blackstar256> @halvors i has to do with cron
[01:13] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, let me hook up my toss-link and see if theres audio
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> halvors: mark it as executable, then in System -> Prefs -> startup items
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> halvors: the .sh file extension isnt needed
[01:14] <Wavesonics> I must say, Windows 7 is pretty darn nice
[01:14] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: I have no idea what's toss-link
[01:14] <annnie> halvors: put a soft link to it into rd.d5
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Wavesonics
[01:14] <Wavesonics> :P
[01:14] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: what does lspci|grep -i "Audio" says?
[01:14] <syslq> Or if you know your audio card model from head
[01:14] <j_dalmond> guys, is it possible to make firefox use qt theme instead of gtk inside ubuntu?
[01:15] <X-Sleepy-X> hi! if i dd my current installation to an external hard drive would that create a single file on that hard drive or would it erase the current data stored on that hard drive? i have a 16gb ssd which i want to image to a file and store it on my backup hard drive...
[01:15] <annnie> j_dalmond: no
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> j_dalmond: just grab a qt looking theme
[01:15] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, its the connector for optical audio,
[01:15] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: aha
[01:15] <annnie> j_dalmond: unless its a theme
[01:16] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, bad usage
[01:16] <brad8171> hello everyone
[01:16] <BlueIceVirus> syslq of grep
[01:16] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: ?
[01:16] <Fshy> OK, so that wasn't a go.
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> j_dalmond: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574/
[01:16] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: it's not a file, it's output of a binary
[01:16] <xissburg> tensorpudding, nUboon2Age , when I try booting in Ubuntu it says that the file \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr may be absent or corrupted
[01:16] <Fshy> ActionParsnip -- that's a fix for if the logo doesn't work if I'm reading that right.
[01:17] <Fshy> My issue is the screen is black *after* the logo.
[01:17] <Fshy> Ironically enough, the logo is the one thing that's working fine.
[01:17] <BlueIceVirus> syslq http://pastebin.com/SA81Lf8V
[01:17] <j_dalmond> annnie: yeah i understand. thx. actually the motivation was white text in white fields on some websites
[01:17] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, syslq, is the sound card an SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio CA0110-IBG?  If so then bad news, this applies -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/463829
[01:17] <xissburg> When I try WinXP it says \ntldr may be corrupted...
[01:17] <j_dalmond> annnie: it's annoying
[01:17] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: what does lspci|grep -i "Audio"
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Fshy: grab a new logo if it offends
[01:18] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: i wouldn't worry too much about the wubi/ubuntu install because that can easily be deleted and reinstalled.  but what about Win 7 and XP?
[01:18] <j_dalmond> ActionParsnip: thx a lot :-)
[01:18] <xissburg> When I try Win7 it says that a needed component doesnt exist or something
[01:18] <Fshy> ActionParsnip -- the logo isn't my problem, again.
[01:18] <Fshy> My screen is black, permanently.
[01:18] <jramsey> no wireless gurus?
[01:18] <X-Sleepy-X> anyone?
[01:18] <Fshy> If I use ATI.
[01:18] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: WinXP says \ntldr may be corrupted
[01:18] <Fshy> The FGLRX or whatever drivers.
[01:18] <Fshy> I can't get my ATI card to work.
[01:18] <BlueIceVirus> http://pastebin.com/y3ScE7Zj
[01:18] <Fshy> If I use the standard Intel thingie it works fine.
[01:18] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: can you see which component win 7 says is missing?
[01:18] <tensorpudding> xissburg: there is a tool called ms-sys on ubuntu that can do windows 7 mbr's
[01:19] <Fshy> Which would be fine, except its a waste of an excellent piece of hardware.
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Fshy: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html  maybe
[01:19] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: it doenst tell
[01:19] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I'll boot into live ubuntu
[01:19] <Fshy> ActionParsnip -- nomodeset lets me log back in, its true.
[01:19] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: you have a live ubuntu disk?  good!
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Fshy: thats all I know, you can also use the framebuffer driver til the desktop turns up
[01:20] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 the command syslq just ask me to put returned CA0110-IBG
[01:20] <Fshy> But without the drivers.
[01:20] <headkase314> syslq, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/463829 the last comments say this issue is still valid in Lucid
[01:20] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: pendrive :)
[01:20] <Fshy> I have to go into low-graphics mode or whatever.
[01:20] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: still good.
[01:20] <xissburg> If I can get to fix mbr and ntldr from there...hm..
[01:21] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 so that means No audio for me at this time? :(
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Fshy: all I know is to use the framebuffer driver until the desktop turns up then the nvidia or intel driver kicks in
[01:21] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, I'm just googling, see what syslq says
[01:21] <Fshy> How?
[01:21] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314j Im awaiting his response
[01:22] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 Im awaiting his response
[01:22] <KyleXY> sircrazy, hi
[01:22] <sircrazy> ;)
[01:22] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, theres a lot to read on that page - hold on
[01:23] <xissburg> so... tensorpudding , nUboon2Age ,I think we're all tired of this thing...do you think I can recover it from live Ubuntu?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Fshy: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/   follow until the embedded video, its an extra package or two, some boot options and a few file edits
[01:23] <tensorpudding> xissburg: you need to apt-get install ms-sys
[01:24] <annnie> xissburg: what aru you trying to do?
[01:24] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: this happened after you upgraded to 10.04?
[01:24] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: i'm not familiar with the utility tensorpudding is talking about, but i will say that bootloader problems look really scarey but are not as serious as they look and can usually be fixed.
[01:24] <xissburg> tensorpudding: cant find package
[01:24] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, no fresh install
[01:24] <c3l> rsync vs rsnapshot for backups?
[01:24] <tensorpudding> xissburg: do you have an internet connection?
[01:24] <xissburg> yes]
[01:24] <tensorpudding> oh dammit
[01:24] <BlueIceVirus> syslq i never had sound on 9.04 either
[01:25] <tensorpudding> it was removed from ubuntu's repos
[01:25] <tensorpudding> due to licensing issues
[01:25] <xissburg> annnie: my PC was screwed up by Wubi
[01:25] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: give me the output of dpkg -l|grep -i "alsa" and of lsmod
[01:25] <sircrazy> neat ubuntu desktop
[01:25] <sircrazy> http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/5/13/ohaiyoujust128552084557608145.jpg
[01:26] <TheGiant> sircrazy lol
[01:26] <annnie> xissburg: so you cant boot?
[01:26] <ePirat> yeah, finally i know what loooong time means... installing inspircd ^^
[01:26] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: xissburg : http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/
[01:26] <xissburg> annnie: yes
[01:26] <L3thal255> can anybody help me out with a mounting issue?
[01:26] <BlueIceVirus> http://pastebin.com/xspQCkzS
[01:26] <upp_> hi all, i have rearly a big Problem with my wireless card, i have try all what i can but i hav'nt get any result, plz help to stop my wlan card to disconnect i have Lucid and Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG is my wireless card
[01:26] <Emageht> Can someone please help me with something, its the weirdest ever http://pastebin.com/m4dyNQ7k
[01:26] <annnie> xissburg: so you cant boot which  ubuntu  or wind0e$
[01:27] <ePirat> o.o
[01:27] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 are you still reading?
[01:27] <BlueIceVirus> headkase syslq I appreciate your help guys
[01:27] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: tensorpudding: it looks like ms-sys 2.2.0 is the latest.
[01:27] <headkase314> syslq, instructions to compile latest alsa (1.0.23 - http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page) on Ubuntu 10.04 -> http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/ Do you think the most current ALSA would help?
[01:27] <xissburg> annnie: soory but it is a long story which Im tired about telling to everyone :0...basically I installed Ubuntu from Win7 using Wubi and it trashed my boot loader
[01:28] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, googling between what you a syslq say ;)
[01:28] <syslq> headkase314: let's leave that for the end :)
[01:28] <Emageht> YOU ALL JUST LOST THE GAME!! AHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
[01:28] <Emageht> YOU ALL JUST LOST THE GAME!! AHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
[01:28] <Emageht> YOU ALL JUST LOST THE GAME!! AHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
[01:28] <FloodBot3> Emageht: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:28] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: run alsamixer from console
[01:28] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 LOL i did try yesterday to update alsa
[01:28] <xissburg> thanks nUboon2Age Ill try it
[01:28] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: and check volumes
[01:28] <brabo> damn now i lost too
[01:28] <upp> hi all, i have rearly a big Problem with my wireless card, i have try all what i can but i hav'nt get any result, plz help to stop my wlan card to disconnect i have Lucid and Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG is my wireless card
[01:28] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: eh, just check if it's disabled anywhere, volume would not give an error
[01:28] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: paste output of lsmod
[01:28] <st__> how to enable flash in konqueror?
[01:29] <avi_> hey guys, my samba shares (hosted on my computer) aren't mounting not even on localhost.  Nautilus seems to  make the connection fine, but it just thows up a blank folder and the busy-pointer. Am I needing to do some other config'ing?
[01:29] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: tensorpudding i just downloaded ms-sys 2.2.0.  Were you able to xissburg?
[01:29] <annnie> xissburg: ubuntu would not trash the wind0e$
[01:29] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, im lost as to how to use this mixer
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> st__: http://mikemcquaid.com/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/
[01:30] <tensorpudding> xissburg: there is a package called mbr
[01:30] <syslq>  BlueIceVirus you see some channels and colors?
[01:30] <xissburg> Im doing it nUboon2Age
[01:30] <xissburg> uh?
[01:30] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, i kinda have it all volumes are up, though my s/pdif says mm over it
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> st__: http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg29t05.htm
[01:31] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: paste output of lsmod
[01:31] <BlueIceVirus> http://pastebin.com/Z568qRMr     the lsmod
[01:31] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: did you change your mind about using ms-sys?  I found it and xissburg is downloading it now.
[01:31] <tensorpudding> nUboon2Age: it'll have to be compiled, will it not?
[01:31] <xissburg> tensorpudding told abput mbr package
[01:31] <nUboon2Age> good question.  let me check.
[01:31] <st__> you linked me something from 2008?
[01:32] <xissburg> this is becoming super annoying lol :(
[01:32] <tensorpudding> xissburg: this package is in the repos and it has a program install-mbr which could possibly work
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> st__: the method is the same, just like applying it to firefox, why not look at the content instead of the year
[01:32] <annnie> xissburg: acidents happen
[01:32] <xissburg> apt-get install mbr?
[01:32] <tensorpudding> yeah
[01:32] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: yes.
[01:33] <xissburg> hm I got it
[01:33] <Chozo> exit
[01:33] <jramsey_> exit
[01:33] <tensorpudding> xissburg: okay, what does linux call your hard disk?
[01:33] <tensorpudding> xissburg: is it sda, sdb, etc.
[01:34] <blackstar256> ya usually
[01:34] <blackstar256> i think mine is sda
[01:34] <blackstar256> sda1
[01:34] <headkase314> tensorpudding, I would guess in this situation Linux calls his hard disk: "pwned."
[01:34] <xissburg> tensorpudding: sda
[01:34] <tensorpudding> xissburg: do sudo fdisk -l
[01:34] <upp> hi all, i have rearly a big Problem with my wireless card, i have try all what i can but i hav'nt get any result, plz help to stop my wlan card to disconnect i have Lucid and Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG is my wireless card
[01:34] <upp> hi all, i have rearly a big Problem with my wireless card, i have try all what i can but i hav'nt get any result, plz help to stop my wlan card to disconnect i have Lucid and Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG is my wireless card
[01:34] <FloodBot3> upp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:35] <upp> hi all, i have rearly a big Problem with my wireless card, i have try all what i can but i hav'nt get any result, plz help to stop my wlan card to disconnect i have Lucid and Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG is my wireless card
[01:35] <tensorpudding> xissburg: i'm going to guess that the windows 7 partition is sda5
[01:35] <tensorpudding> xissburg: since it is under an extended partition
[01:35] <IdleOne> !patience | upp
[01:35] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I agree
[01:35] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I've seen it, it was sda5
[01:36] <jramsey_> upp here =>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[01:36] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: it seems ok, run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and paste feedback
[01:36] <BlueIceVirus> syslq, i know that there is a newer version of alsa 1.0.23 i still have .21
[01:36] <tensorpudding> xissburg: okay, so try sudo install-mbr -i n -p 5 -t 0 /dev/sda
[01:36] <xissburg> ook :)
[01:36] <tensorpudding> i hope that it works
[01:37] <tensorpudding> install-mbr might not understand extended partitions for some reason, which could cause problems
[01:37] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: you can try that too
[01:37] <BlueIceVirus> how? ;(
[01:37] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, please consider bookmarking this for reference -> http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/  Wait what happens between you and syslq first of course, maybe he can get it working without such drastic measures.
[01:37] <tensorpudding> xissburg: does it return anything?
[01:37] <xissburg> tensorpudding: Invalid default partition 5
[01:38] <tensorpudding> damn!
[01:38] <tensorpudding> how is it that mbr's boot from logical partitions anyway
[01:38] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 is that the instr for upgrading alsa?
[01:38] <syslq> BlueIceVirus: download source and compile it
[01:38] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: tensorpudding: is that error stopping it entirely or could it still boot up?
[01:39] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, yes and I've verified that those instructions are for the most current version of ALSA
[01:39] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I verified it here, 7's partition is /dev/sda5
[01:39] <xissburg> dammit dude...
[01:39] <xissburg> this thing is so hard to get working ;(
[01:39] <tensorpudding> xissburg: there are probably some major trickeries going on to boot from extended partitions
[01:39] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 syslq ok let me update and get back
[01:39] <nUboon2Age> oh okay that means that win 7 is different enough mbr doesn't know how to handle it.
[01:40] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, would probably take around 20 minutes of following the instructions to do so just post here if you run into any issues?  syslq, this good with you?
[01:40] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: i wonder if it is working on XP though?  tensorpudding?
[01:40] <bazhang> tensorpudding, this is a wubi install that xissburg has
[01:40] <tensorpudding> right now we don't give a hoot about the wubi
[01:40] <Dwarf2000> tenderpudding XD
[01:40] <tensorpudding> we just want to get windows 7 booting
[01:41] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: it was not the last time I tried. Nothing is working lol
[01:41] <tensorpudding> you could get windows xp booting again
[01:41] <tensorpudding> xissburg: try sudo install-mbr -i n -p D -t 0 /dev/sda
[01:42] <tensorpudding> that will get windows xp booting again
[01:42] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: xissburg if mbr worked to get xp booting then that would def. be a step forward, yes?  easybcd should really work i think.
[01:42] <xissburg> tensorpudding: now it didnt output anything
[01:42] <tensorpudding> that means it worked
[01:43] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I was booting in XP before, directly, without OS choice menu, but after using easybcd the OS menu popped up but none of them worked
[01:44] <tensorpudding> xissburg: i think we messed up when we made the boot options
[01:44] <jramsey> test
[01:44] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: yes, but i'm thinking we just had a config error in easybcd and that it should still work if we set it up correctly.
[01:45] <xissburg> so I'll try booting into XP now
[01:46] <Bytesunfish> If someone has a moment, I have a motherboard (Asus M2N-E) that has an onboard gigabit ethernet that is being incorrectly recognized as device virbr0. I have a pci card 10/100 that is my only link to this computer. I'm running server edition x64. System is updated daily.
[01:46] <xissburg> tensorpudding: , nUboon2Age Xp doesnt work
[01:46] <jramsey> test
[01:46] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314, ran into an issue
[01:46] <xissburg> heh
[01:46] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: what did you get?
[01:46] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: the same error as before, for all 3 OSes
[01:47] <jramsey> xissburg, is the error on pastebin?
[01:47] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 on the part where it wants me to put sudo cp ~/alsa* it tells me a file something.bz2 is not a dir
[01:47] <xissburg> I think that...I could copy the important files into another partition and format other and reinstall Windows there..
[01:47] <xissburg> at least my files are still there
[01:48] <xissburg> jramsey: no
[01:48] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: xissburg wouldn't the goal be to get back into EasyBCD to set up correctly?
[01:48] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I can't  boot in XP anymore
[01:48] <alvaro> I'm trying to get HDMI audio to work.  But all I get when I do "mplayer /foo/bar/file.mp3" is static.  Any ideas?
[01:48] <st__> xissburg, boot from floppy
[01:48] <xissburg> I got to use easybcd before in XP there...after that I couldnt boot again
[01:49] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, was away now back give me a second to review what said
[01:49] <nUboon2Age> one thing xissburg: if you do choose to reinstall win 7 and xp, tensorpudding, doesn't xissburg have to install xp first, then win 7?  i still hope it wouldn't come to that.
[01:51] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, that cp command should copy the three .yar.bz2 files you downloaded into your /usr/src/alsa folder which you should be in.  The files are supposed to be in your /home/username folder and not in a subfolder from there
[01:51] <headkase314> s/.yar/.tar
[01:51] <jramsey> xissburg, have you checked this => http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6800
[01:51] <vol7ron> all: for some reason I can't view flash in my web browsers (chrome/ff), but Adobe says my browser has it installed
[01:51] <st__> xissburg, do you have a floppy drive?
[01:51] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 i just found them and was about to move them
[01:53] <xissburg> st__:  im running live ubuntu from pendrive]
[01:53] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 I cant move them into that folder permission den
[01:53] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, it is not neccessary to make them in the /usr/src/alsa folder you can follow the instructions in your home folder to compile them there.  How familiar are you with the console?
[01:53] <sikilpaake> moin
[01:53] <xissburg> moin
[01:53] <Bytesunfish> top
[01:53] <xissburg> moinsen
[01:53] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 im newb at linux but im getting it perty fast
[01:53] <Nero_> where i can get deb. files for vlc 1.1.2?
[01:54] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus,  ok, type "cd ~" without quotes
[01:54] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: tensorpudding: jramsey:  from that forum posting that jramsey gave i found "If your Windows Vista or Windows 7 bootloader has been damaged or corrupt in some way, you'll have to get it reset before you can use EasyBCD to configure a dual-boot."
[01:54] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: tensorpudding: jramsey: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+from+the+DVD
[01:54] <tensorpudding> xissburg: you can try getting ms-sys to work
[01:54] <Dwarf2000> Nero_ www.google.com
[01:54] <berwaldd> Nero: You should be able to get vlc from the Synaptic Package Manager built into Ubuntu
[01:54] <jramsey> yeah it looks like an evening is ruined with this
[01:54] <vol7ron> If it helps, I have 64b Ubuntu 10.04 ... why is it hard to get Flash running?
[01:54] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 what does the ~ do, cd does the same thing it seems
[01:54] <Nero_> i can not find usefull information...
[01:54] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, type "ls alsa*" without quotes, you should see the three alsa files you downloaded.  ~ is a shortcut for your home folder.
[01:55] <xissburg> tensorpudding: yes, we forgot that one
[01:55] <tensorpudding> xissburg: the goal should be to find some way to get back to xp, so that you can use easybcd to get windows 7 back
[01:55] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I cant burn Cds
[01:55] <berwaldd> Nero_: If you go to your menu and into Synaptic you can search for vlc in there
[01:55] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 ok im unpacking them where they are
[01:55] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: oh, okay.  couldn't remember.
[01:56] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I almost tried that approach, but I couldnt burn the iso to my pendrive
[01:56] <Dwarf2000> Nero_ http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/graphics/vlc
[01:56] <xissburg> tensorpudding: going to live ubuntu to try ms-sys
[01:56] <Nero_> yes, i know how to install software ..
[01:56] <Nero_> i need the 1.1.2 ver.
[01:57] <Nero_> not 1.0.6
[01:57] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, ok, you will have the 3 folders in your home directory.  For each of the 3 folders execute the commands "./configure", "make", and then "sudo make install"
[01:57] <tensorpudding> xissburg: you'll need to install the build-essential package to compile ms-sys
[01:57] <tensorpudding> xissburg: then run ms-sys -7 /dev/sda
[01:57] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314 already on the works ;)
[01:57] <sikilpaake> is there any way to view and mount my partitions through <<ssh -X -C -c blowfish user@192.168.1.102 "gksu nautilus">> ?
[01:58] <jramsey> xissburg, => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:58] <bastid_raZor> Nero_: http://nightlies.videolan.org/
[01:58] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, you will be following the cd commands in the tutorial but you are in your home folder instead of /usr/src/alsa.  The difference between the instructions and what you are now doing is that "./configure" and "make" do not need the sudo command while the "make install" does need a sudo prefix.
[01:58] <BlueIceVirus> headcase314 is there a quick way to respond to a person in here rather than type the name every time?
[01:58] <sikilpaake> BlueIceVirus: try to see if your client supports autocomplete for names
[01:58] <hiexpo> tan BlueIceVirus
[01:58] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, type part of their name then press TAB to complete it works in my IRC client (x-chat)
[01:59] <hiexpo> ^?tab
[01:59] <IdleOne> BlueIceVirus: use tab completion type head and hit TAB
[01:59] <sikilpaake> type sik and then hit TAB
[01:59] <BlueIceVirus> im in the webchat version for this irc
[01:59] <xissburg> jramsey: no, burn the Windows 7 Recovery disc to pendrive
[01:59] <BlueIceVirus> ok got it
[01:59] <jramsey> oic
[01:59] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314: thats a lot faster ;)
[01:59] <sikilpaake> BlueIceVirus: SikEnCide sikilpaake
[01:59] <sikilpaake> BlueIceVirus: sure is
[01:59] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314:  just like tab in the terminal
[01:59] <nUboon2Age> What about ths tensorpudding: have you heard of fixmbr: "restore the Windows bootloader using "fixmbr" from a recovery CD, and use Parted Magic to delete the Linux partition and expand the Windows partition. " xissburg: tensorpudding; jramsey:
[02:00] <jramsey> it's tough jumping into a thread mid-stream
[02:00] <BlueIceVirus> hiexpo: hey buddy, i was looking for you the other day
[02:00] <sikilpaake> is there any way to view and mount my partitions through <<ssh -X -C -c blowfish user@192.168.1.102 "gksu nautilus">> ?
[02:00] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, ok, yup.  Now make sure you have no errors from ./configure and make before you type "sudo make install"  If you have any errors post them here
[02:00] <BlueIceVirus> hiexpo: i finally got lucid installed, but on a diff drive instead of the raid
[02:00] <tensorpudding> nUboon2Age: there is no linux partition, and fixmbr only works for xp mbr's, and only runs from a valid windows xp recovery disk, which xissburg doesn't have
[02:00] <tensorpudding> if xissburg had one, this would have been solved eons ago
[02:01] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314: so if it sayd successfully compiled its good?
[02:01] <dude> hello, I am running Lucid and was installing some software from the repos and after I reboted I can not access any websites or the update servers
[02:01] <tensorpudding> this problem has had very little to do with ubuntu, except that the ubuntu live cd is the only recovery environment available
[02:01] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, if ./configure and make do not give an error message then the compile is good and you can do make install
[02:01] <hiexpo> BlueIceVirus,  kool
[02:02] <BlueIceVirus> hiexpo: but now tring to get my x-fi working ;)
[02:02] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314: ok
[02:02] <dude> the eth0 shows connected but I cant get anywhere
[02:02] <einino> 你好阿
[02:02] <hiexpo> !cn
[02:02] <vol7ron> got flash working in FF on Ubuntu 10.04, but Chrome is still lacking
[02:03] <einino> 有人吗
[02:03] <jramsey> !jp
[02:03] <McLinux> how can it be read... these japanese characters
[02:03] <tensorpudding> get japanese fonts
[02:03] <jramsey> miracle
[02:03] <McLinux> i have them
[02:03] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I have a windows XP installation disc
[02:04] <McLinux> its just .. not readable unless i enlarge the font sizes
[02:04] <vol7ron> it's 64b, which is why Flash isn't working in Lucid
[02:04] <tensorpudding> xissburg: you do?
[02:04] <xissburg> I tried getting into recovery mode but I cant remember the admin password :(
[02:04] <McLinux> flash isn't working on 64b ubuntu?
[02:04] <tensorpudding> oh
[02:04] <tensorpudding> more tragedies
[02:05] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: tensorpudding: is that a generic password?
[02:05] <McLinux> xissburg: ubuntu?  could be your own user account pw?
[02:06] <vol7ron> McLinux: not in chrome, for me
[02:06] <tensorpudding> i have flash working in chrome 64
[02:06] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: tensorpudding: or generic by manufacturer?
[02:06] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314: I have to restart now, brb
[02:06] <McLinux> Weird, because I have 64b plus cHrome-- working fine.
[02:06] <tensorpudding> i can't remember how i got it working though
[02:06] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, ok
[02:06] <tensorpudding> nUboon2Age: I don't know
[02:06] <vol7ron> McLinux: I had to go the backend way of installing it in firefox too ~ http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/install-64-bit-adobe-flash-player-on-ubuntu-904/
[02:06] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I tried a  few ppossible passwords...I cant believe I couldnt break it...and it sucks because you have only 3 chances..then it resets the machine
[02:06] <EvilPhoenix> i need this dependency for a program (amazon MP3 downloader): libboost-filesystem1.34.1  How can I get it?
[02:06] <McLinux> really?
[02:07] <McLinux> ij ust did sudo apt-get install flash-plugin
[02:07] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: is that a cd/dvd?
[02:07] <dude> can anyone help me with a network problem?
[02:07] <tensorpudding> xissburg: did you compile ms-sys?
[02:07] <xissburg> what is the root password in live Ubuntu?
[02:07] <vol7ron> McLinux it could just be that i'm retarded, which is probably the case
[02:07] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: its a WinXP CD
[02:07] <xissburg> tensorpudding: yes
[02:07] <McLinux> vol7ron: if you are then i am too..
[02:07] <xissburg> I cant get to su make install it
[02:07] <McLinux> dude: what exactly is the network problem?
[02:07] <wedwo> dude what's your question?
[02:07] <vol7ron> McLinux: I couldn't find any flash-plugin, which repo?
[02:07] <xissburg> su asks for pw
[02:08] <xissburg> su
[02:08] <tensorpudding> xissburg: try doing sudo -i
[02:08] <dude> My eth0 shows me conected but I cannot actually connect to anything
[02:08] <sacarlson> xissburg: sudo su
[02:08] <tensorpudding> then doing make install
[02:08] <McLinux> vol7ron: think i used: flashplugin-installer
[02:08] <Fshy> I gotta say, this is kinda getting on my nerves....
[02:08] <tensorpudding> the live cd's don't have a user password
[02:08] <McLinux> dude, you are online now? or is this via a different machine?
[02:08] <wedwo> dude .. ifconfig
[02:08] <vol7ron> McLinux: hopefully this will work :), I'd rather use it than a dated checksum
[02:09] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: ok, im back
[02:09] <dude> mclinux, yes and no
[02:09] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, ok do "cat /proc/asound/version"
[02:09] <xissburg> make install wont work wow
[02:09] <dude> wedwo, all setting with ip# are correct
[02:09] <McLinux> dude, clarify
[02:09] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, and say what the version number is
[02:09] <xissburg> Fshy: lol
[02:09] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: well now I actually have .23 alsa ;) nice
[02:09] <Fshy> OK, let me try explaining this again to see if anyone can help a bit more. I know its an extremely vague error.
[02:09] <sacarlson> xissburg: oh and you like windows xp so you can run it inside virtualbox inside ubuntu
[02:10] <Fshy> I'll try and fetch some logs if possible.
[02:10] <dude> Mclinux, eth0 shows me connected, I can ping from term, but cant laod webpages or pull anything from repos
[02:10] <vol7ron> McLinux: that worked... thank you very much.  Adobe said I had an up-to-date version of Flash, but Chrome said it wasn't installed.  Perhaps because it was a beta version of chrome, it wasn't installed properly
[02:10] <xissburg> sacarlson: runs bad
[02:10] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, ok now "sudo alsaconf" click ok and reboot again.
[02:10] <tensorpudding> vol7ron: chrome doesn't have flash for 64-bit
[02:10] <McLinux> vol7ron: no problem.. i think it had to do with chrome looking in a different location for plugins
[02:10] <tensorpudding> vol7ron: but adobe just says "oh, you have chrome, therefore you have flash"
[02:10] <sacarlson> xissburg: ya bad for you games I'm sure  it would be slow for that
[02:11] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: ok restarting again
[02:11] <tensorpudding> vol7ron: because adobe is lame and pulled support for 64-bit linux for a while so they could fix it, and at some point in the indefinite future they'll bring it back
[02:11] <vol7ron> tensorpudding: McLinux's flashplugin-installer enabled it in chrome, so it's working
[02:12] <McLinux> flash doesn't perform great on anything other than Windows.. but it still works
[02:12] <vol7ron> tensorpudding: whether it's a dated version, or not, at least I have something now
[02:12] <tensorpudding> xissburg: did you get ms-sys to build?
[02:12] <xissburg> tensorpudding: suggestion for parameters for ms-sys? :P
[02:12] <xissburg> yea]
[02:12] <Mqueue> hello im trying to run partimage to make backup on windows drive and my system keeps halting what could be wrong ?
[02:12] <vol7ron> I'm just trying to use speedtest.net
[02:12] <tensorpudding> xissburg: try ms-sys -7 /dev/sda
[02:12] <MACscr> how can i select all avi and mvk files from a folder and its subfolders and move them to a new directory?
[02:12] <McLinux> dude, what sort of IP does eth0 have?
[02:12] <xissburg> tensorpudding: Windows 7 master boot record successfully writeen . . .
[02:13] <Fshy> OK, my issue is this. I have an Acer Aspire TimelineX 4820TG laptop, which contains both an Intel graphics card and an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 graphics chip. The default install used the Intel chip for graphics, but in Hardware Drivers in 10.04, it gave me the option to chose the FGLRX proprietary drives for the ATI card. If I Activate them, it requires me to reboot, at which point I do...
[02:13] <Fshy> ...so. During startup, I come back in, see the logo, and it black screens after that.
[02:13] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: tensorpudding: sounds promising.
[02:13] <vol7ron> My Linux is in VMware, so I'm not too worried about performance just yet.  When I get my new SSD, I'll have a new partition for a full-fledged, sweet linux box
[02:13] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: heh
[02:13] <sikilpaake> how can i mount all mountable drives through the command line?
[02:13] <tensorpudding> xissburg: okay, that might be a start..but i'm not sure exactly what it will do, if it know how to find the partitions
[02:13] <Fshy> If I use the nomodeset option, I can get back in, however, it says Graphics Error and puts me in this ridiculously lame "low graphics mode", where the ATI chip is most definitely not active.
[02:13] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314: ok now im back again
[02:14] <McLinux> Fshy; laptop?  are you using a monitor with it? Hdmi output at all?
[02:14] <tensorpudding> xissburg: the only way to know is to reboot yet again
[02:14] <xissburg> Ill do it
[02:14] <dude> Mclinux, eth0 shows inet 192.168.1.100 Bcast192.168.1.255
[02:14] <Fshy> No monitor, its just a laptop.
[02:14] <McLinux> ok, can you at least the router ?
[02:14] <Fshy> I get some output, but only for the ubuntu logo part.
[02:14] <Fshy> After that, black screens.
[02:14] <McLinux> sorry, ping* the router
[02:14] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, ok now to see if it made a difference.  In a console "gstreamer-properties" ALSA should be the sound system and NOW what are your choices for devices.  syslq you there?  Need you again!
[02:14] <McLinux> I ran into that, are you trying to do a new install or is this a complete install?
[02:15] <vol7ron> dude, what are you trying to do?
[02:15] <avi_> hey guys, I'm trying to set up a samba server in Lucid to, among other things, share a CD in the computer's cd rom drive. The problem is, that in Lucid CDs get mounted to ~/.gvfs, which for some reason you cannot view in samba shares. I mounted my entire ~ in samba, and looked for .gvfs, but it was NOT THERE. Basically everything was however, including other hidden files.. How can i fix this? Thanks!
[02:15] <Fshy> McLinux: Sorry, who are you referring to? Lets use the name tag thingies.
[02:15] <dude> Mclinux, yes
[02:15] <xissburg> tensorpudding: same errors as before in the OS selection screen :(
[02:15] <McLinux> Fshy; sorry, yes.. is this a new install attempt (aka booting to LiveCD)?
[02:15] <dude> vol7ron, I have lost access to internet through browser and repos
[02:16] <vol7ron> dude, but you're using IRC?
[02:16] <Mqueue> hello im trying to run partimage to make backup of windows drive and my system keeps freezing what can be the issue ?
[02:16] <Fshy> McLinux: No, I installed it fine, and normally it defaults to using the Intel chip, so I had a perfectly good install -- just not using the ATI chip. When I attempt to use the FGLRX drivers to activate the ATI chip, all hell breaks loose though.
[02:16] <dude> vol7ron, different computer
[02:16] <xissburg> ok I think its enough eh guys
[02:17] <McLinux> Fshy; Hrm, do you disable the INtel chipset (In BIOS for example?)
[02:17] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: let's see if tensorpudding has any more ideas.
[02:17] <tensorpudding> xissburg: okay, try rebooting into the pendrive and writing an xp mbr
[02:17] <sacarlson> avi_:  i guess I would need to see your /etc/samaba/smb.conf file  I think I gave you a sample of mine the other day
[02:17] <sikilpaake> how can i mount all mountable drives through the command line?
[02:17] <wurlington> mount -a
[02:17] <vol7ron> dude: are you running any sort of firewall/av?
[02:17] <spaceghost_> man cpan takes ages to install stuff, been installing dependencies for like 35 minutes
[02:17] <Fshy> McLinux: No? I wasn't even sure I should try that.
[02:17] <tensorpudding> xissburg: the mbr that ms-sys writes must be set to just boot from the first bootable partition
[02:17] <xissburg> tensorpudding: heh let me do it
[02:17] <sikilpaake> wurlington: that mounts all of the ones on fstab
[02:17] <McLinux> dude, I would check that the browser isn't trying to use a proxy or if there was some firewall configured.. not sure how to "check" for that...
[02:18] <sikilpaake> wurlington: i need to mount all the ones that *can* be mounted
[02:18] <xissburg> it would be good to at least have xp back
[02:18] <dude> vol7ron, firestarter is shutdown right now and clamav not running
[02:18] <sacarlson> avi_:  is your CD mount point mounting as the same ubuntu user as fouruser?
[02:18] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: ok back again,
[02:18] <McLinux> Fshy; did you have the ATI card working in a previous install, or OS?
[02:18] <wurlington> sikilpaake, i duno then :-\
[02:18] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: going to check sound
[02:18] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, ok what devices are there now?
[02:18] <Fshy> McLinux: Works fine in the Win7 dual boot.
[02:18] <McLinux> dude, check your router--?
[02:18] <dude> Mclinux, that wouldnt affect updating the repos too would it?
[02:18] <vol7ron> dude: make sure ps is listing it's not running
[02:18] <plouffe> Are there any open source java browsers in ubuntu repositories?
[02:18] <avi_> sacarlson, I can't remember if you did. But the problem is not getting to my home folder, that works great. The problem is .gvfs not showing up when browsing a samba share.
[02:18] <McLinux> dude, repos is downloaded via http.. port 80
[02:18] <vol7ron> dude: shutdown, then restart your computer
[02:18] <dude> vol7ron, ?
[02:19] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: same ones as before plus now I get CA0110 Analog too
[02:19] <headkase314> k, choose analog and test
[02:19] <Fshy> plouffe: I'm not sure whether he ever finished or even started it, but I know a dude called eondev awhile ago was making one.
[02:19] <headkase314> ^ BlueIceVirus_
[02:19] <Fshy> Or thinking about making one.
[02:19] <vol7ron> dude: shutdown your firewalls and restart your computer, also check for proxies as McLinux stated
[02:19] <grumbo> anyone here use merge? (the tool for merging conflicting files)
[02:19] <McLinux> Fshy; that's a bit.. Fshy ;)  Have you had it working under a previous Linux install?
[02:19] <sacarlson> avi_:  just one file missing?  or can't see the cd that's mounted?
[02:19] <plouffe> Fshy thanks for the headsups
[02:20] <Fshy> McLinux -- nope. Just went with ubuntu 10.04. I know its not just me though.
[02:20] <vol7ron> grumbo: merge or comparing differences or git/merge?
[02:20] <tensorpudding> xissburg: the command for putting the xp mbr on would be ms-sys -m /dev/sda
[02:20] <dude> Vol7ron , Mclinux, have rebooted a number of times, both computers running through same router and switch, have power cycled everything, changed cables
[02:20] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: well I picked analog and clicked test, no sound, and pushed ok and now its froze
[02:20] <dude> I will check for proxies
[02:20] <grumbo> vol7ron: i'm using it for git's mergetool command
[02:20] <McLinux> dude, this is a home network right? not corporate, or whatever?
[02:20] <dude> correct
[02:20] <Fshy> McLinux: There's one other dude with the issue in the ubuntu forums, but he gave up since he didn't know how to use nomodeset, and just reinstalled the entire OS.
[02:20] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, are your speakers analog or spdif?
[02:21] <avi_> sacarlson, CDs get mounted at /~/.gvfs And the entire .gvfs directory is missing when accessing via samba.
[02:21] <blackstar256> haha
[02:21] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: i have both pluged in
[02:21] <vol7ron> dude: how many connection are allowed through the router?  I know that's unlikely cause, but if you have a lot of computers and only allow 5 connections, you may have maxed out.
[02:21] <McLinux> Fshy; I have an ATI card, I had trouble getting it to boot.. eventually sat down, plugged my PC into my monitor using a VGA cable.. installed the driver, configured it to display on the correct display and rebooted.. works now.
[02:21] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, what do you mean "froze" complete computer (and you are on a different one) or just that window?
[02:21] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: just that one
[02:21] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: have to close the terminal to get it to close
[02:22] <Fshy> McLinux: *frowns*...a little impractical given where I am at present...but if that were the case, shouldn't nomodeset be able to access the ATI config settings?
[02:22] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, ok type "xkill" in a console and click on the frozen window
[02:22] <sacarlson> avi_:  can you create a sym link to the file maybe then it will see it?  make sure the sym link isn't .something   the "." makes hiden files
[02:22] <vol7ron> grumbo: i'm not too familiar, since I haven't had the need yet, but what's the problem?
[02:22] <Fshy> Which...needless to say, errors out when tried.
[02:22] <dude> Mclinux, vol7ron, I was browsing internet and saw I needed to reboot the system because of an update, did so, and when it came back up I couldn't access anything
[02:22] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, type "gstreamer-properties" again and try the digital and click test
[02:22] <avi_> sacarlson, Yeah, that was my next move. I'll try and let you know.
[02:22] <McLinux> Fshy; don't know... i tried nomodeset myself, didn't work, I freaked out since this was on a brand new PC :)
[02:22] <halvors> I want to run an executable file when Ubuntu start, how do that? At a server.
[02:23] <Fshy> Hm....
[02:23] <vol7ron> dude: were you looking at porn?
[02:23] <McLinux> Turns out, Ubuntu/ATI doesn't seem to like DVI or HDMI cables when installing the drivers
[02:23] <robertpayne> Anyone have an apt-get repo with php 5.3.3 by chance? Looking to try and get it w/o compiling from source for php-fpm
[02:23] <Fshy> I've tried pushing the switch-monitor button on a whim...it didn't really do anything, but then again, no monitor was plugged in.
[02:23] <dude> lol, no
[02:23] <bastid_raZor> !boot | halvors
[02:23] <McLinux> do you have a spare monitor in the house? I'd try the vga cable just on a whim..
[02:23] <dude> vol7ron, gnokii
[02:23] <grumbo> vol7ron: well, it's apparently supposed to have handy buttons for determining which file's changes to use in the merged result... but it doesn't, at least on my system. I get the three columns and the diff highlighting, but no buttons to pick which changes to use, as seen in the screen shot here: (the buttons being the arrows) http://meld.sourceforge.net/meld_preview.png
[02:24] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: same thing happend
[02:24] <Fshy> McLinux -- technically yes, but I'm not *at* the house :P
[02:24] <Fshy> Nor anywhere near the house.
[02:24] <Fshy> Nor will be anywhere near a monitor till Wednesday :P
[02:24] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: any luck?
[02:25] <bryan_> my CD drive likes playing keep away....it ejects, I reach for the CD, and it says "Sike!" and pulls back
[02:25] <McLinux> Fshy; yuck!  All I can say is your symptoms matches mine.  Though it may not be the same exact problem for you... It boots, displays Ubuntu logo (even displays the scrolling text if I remove "quiet nosplash" from GRUB boot)
[02:25] <Fshy> Its annoying me, since I'm usually pretty good at smacking stuff around til it works. I fixed the headphone jack with ALSA, fixed the stupid wifi issue...
[02:25] <McLinux> Fshy; once it appears to want o boot GDM, it blinks out... and appears to freeze
[02:25] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, ok, we're back to step one except now you have the latest version of ALSA.  I'm sorry but this is the limits of my knowledge.  So, hopefully someone else will be able to help us continue.  If you end up coming back at a later time - if it's not solved in this session - make sure to mention you have updated ALSA.  There may be no solution to that hardware, I'm hoping there is and we just don't
[02:25] <headkase314> see it.
[02:25] <Fshy> Interesting. Scrolling text?
[02:26] <McLinux> The boot messages
[02:26] <vol7ron> grumbo: wish I could help, do you get the arrows or the boxes to the left?
[02:26] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: bummer
[02:26] <Fshy> I don't get that, at least unless I misunderstand you.
[02:26] <McLinux> All that stuff that appears under dmesg
[02:26] <BlueIceVirus_> hiexpo: do you know anyting about setting up an x-fi?
[02:26] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: dcalled ms-sys, successfully written, rebooting now
[02:26] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: was xp already installed or did you install it during the fix attempts?
[02:26] <Fshy> Oh wait. You're right.
[02:26] <Fshy> Mine does do that.
[02:26] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: im almost willing to buy a diff card just for it to fkin work
[02:26] <hiexpo> BlueIceVirus_,  wifi?
[02:26] <Fshy> OK, so we do have near identical scenarios.
[02:26] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, Sorry, I just don't know what to do.  You're lsmod mentioned an Intel HDA module, do you have onboard sound you can use in the meantime?
[02:26] <BlueIceVirus_> hiexpo: no no, soundblaster x-fi
[02:27] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: already installed
[02:27] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: nope
[02:27] <grumbo> vol7ron: yeah, the boxes are just for seeing where the diffs are, they aren't buttons in any capacity... don't get the arrows... I'll see if I their mailing list has anything the seems relevant
[02:27] <Fshy> Just out of curiosity, McLinux, do you get the weird pink stuff around the Ubuntu logo in the beginning?
[02:27] <hiexpo> BlueIceVirus_,  oh sorry no i am a wifi guy
[02:27] <McLinux> Hey, I didn't use Linux on my brand spanking new PC for almost 2 months for that reason, till it dawned on me to plug in the VGA cable...
[02:27] <Fshy> That eventually resolves itself?
[02:27] <McLinux> yeah it was kind of like an artifact
[02:27] <Fshy> Only occurs on this guy.
[02:27] <BlueIceVirus_> hiexpo:  no its a sound card
[02:27] <Fshy> Yeah, yeah.
[02:28] <hiexpo> yup BlueIceVirus_
[02:28] <dude> vol7ron , not running through a proxie
[02:28] <Fshy> Alright, I guess I'll leave Ubuntu alone til Wednesday and give it a shot. Thanks a lot McLinux.
[02:28] <xissburg> nUboon2Age, tensorpudding samething :(
[02:28] <BlueIceVirus_> hiexpo: lol i got it now
[02:28] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, I'm at my limit, don't lose hope just make sure you provide the information that ALSA is the latest version on your system whenever you try here or on ubuntuforums.org
[02:28] <McLinux> Sorry :( Hopefully it works lke magic on Weds
[02:28] <josue> #ubuntu-br
[02:28] <Fshy> There a time you're usually around or some email jic something goes wrong and I feel like contacting you, McLinux?
[02:28] <xissburg> headkase314: I'm at my limit
[02:28] <xissburg> !!!
[02:28] <McLinux> I'll try to be around
[02:29] <vol7ron> dude: does 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' do anything for you?
[02:29] <tensorpudding> xissburg: it still has the windows 7-style bootmanager options, or does it give a different error?
[02:29] <headkase314> xissburg, yeah I've been taking a look as your posts have gone by, man.. :(
[02:29] <hiexpo> hey does weakernet have a channel?
[02:29] <Fshy> Kk. Thanks a bundle. I really should hang out here a bit more.
[02:29] <xissburg> tensorpudding: Win7 style OS chooser yes
[02:30] <tensorpudding> xissburg: that is strange, it suggests that the changes that ms-sys is supposed to be doing isn't happening
[02:30] <xissburg> headkase314: I'm screwed lol but at least my files are yet intact, I think I won't lose them in any way but...I think I have no other choice other than reinstall now]
[02:30] <dude> vol7ron, hmm got 'ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[02:30] <Licuadora> I instaled alsamixer, bur when i try to open it with the terminal, it said "file does not exist"
[02:30] <dude> ifconfig
[02:31] <dude> opps wrong puter
[02:31] <headkase314> xissburg, yup thats a bonafide disaster - the best way to learn things! ;)
[02:31] <xissburg> headkase314: lol :(
[02:31] <nUboon2Age> its kinda like your win 7 and xp are stuck out on an island.  they aren't going anywhere, but getting to them has been difficult.
[02:32] <tensorpudding> nUboon2Age: windows 7 is ithaca, and we're odysseus
[02:32] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: :)
[02:32] <xissburg> what
[02:32] <tensorpudding> xissburg: maybe it's possible to run bcdedit.exe, the thing that windows uses to edit the bootloader, through wine
[02:32] <xissburg> lol
[02:32] <tensorpudding> you can still mount the windows 7 partition using wine
[02:32] <Licuadora> http://pastebin.com/GrZ7dhwz
[02:32] <xissburg> wow
[02:32] <Licuadora> Can somebody tell me why cant i connect to internet?
[02:32] <tensorpudding> err, you can mount the windows 7 partition using ntfs-3g
[02:33] <vol7ron> dude: ?
[02:33] <xissburg> it takes time to install wine?
[02:33] <Licuadora> I have wireless right now, but when i connect the cable, i can acces internet
[02:33] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: what happens when you try to connect to a wireless network?
[02:33] <Strav> Hi. It seems I need some help getting grub2 recon my windows 7 install. I just reinstalled grub2 with my root linux partition as grub root install dir, then chrooted into my install to "update-grub2" and yet, no windows installation found. Then I suspected I might have overwritten the mbr while playing with grub's install options so I went in my windows install disk, fixed the mbr, tried to install/update grub again, still no windows
[02:33] <Strav> found. Next step, I tried entering a manual entry in /etc/grub.d/ as 11_windows, with hd(0,3) (where 3 = /dev/sda3 where is the windows mbr) and still, no luck. Any one can help on that...?
[02:33] <headkase314> tensorpudding, using bcdedit.exe in wine sounds... well... Are you sure about that?
[02:33] <dude> vol7ron, it said "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[02:33] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: I can connect via WIFI, but not with a wire
[02:34] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: It simply does not recongnize the cable
[02:34] <headkase314> tensorpudding, I don't think WINE has implemented low-level hard disk access is what I mean...
[02:34] <vol7ron> dude: open up /etc/network/interfaces
[02:34] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: put the cable in and type: sudo mii-tool
[02:34] <nUboon2Age> headkase314: xissburg we could look at the winehq and see if it is rated.
[02:34] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: ^^^
[02:35] <ilovefairuz> Strav: have you tried booting it by hand from a grub shell?
[02:35] <Guest80295> ~~~
[02:35] <dude> vol7ron, done
[02:35] <vol7ron> anything listed?
[02:35] <Strav> ilovefairuz: nope, I'm not really acquainted with the grub shell commands.
[02:35] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, how about you try unpluggin one of your speaker connections - either the analog or the digital and then gstreamer-properties the one you leave plugged in?  Perhaps having both plugged makes a difference?
[02:35] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: SIOCGMIIREG on eth0 failed: Input/output error
[02:35] <Licuadora> SIOCGMIIREG on eth0 failed: Input/output error
[02:35] <Licuadora>   No MII transceiver present!.
[02:35] <xissburg>  nUboon2Age What???
[02:36] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: i tired that
[02:36] <dude> vol7ron, all it has in there is "auto lo, iface lo inet loopback"
[02:36] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: :(
[02:36] <Strav> ilovefairuz: I'll give it a try... thanks.
[02:36] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, darn, that was like my last hope
[02:36] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: lol
[02:36] <tensorpudding> it'd be nice if windows had a live cd
[02:36] <Mqueue> tnsorpudding>>lol
[02:36] <avi_> sacarlson, Hey, sorry for the hold up. Says "Unable to mount location", and beneath that "Failed to mount Windows share"
[02:36] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, but don't give up hope there are people way more knowledgable than me here - you just have to be on at the right time to catch them!
[02:36] <vol7ron> dude: well that's good, add in an auto eth0
[02:36] <Strav> exit
[02:36] <xissburg> tensorpudding, nUboon2Age what did we do to bring xp to life that time???
[02:37] <JimBastard> noob question : how can i update git on ubuntu using apt-get? it seems to be stuck at git version 1.6.0.4
[02:37] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: yep
[02:37] <avi_> sacarlson, In nautilus that is. So i guess it just REALLY doesn't want me to read .gvfs.. why should it be mounting there? What's the point of /cdrom or /media/cdrom0?!
[02:37] <BlueIceVirus_> any one else have any knowladge of audio problems?
[02:37] <xissburg> testdisk corrected the partitions
[02:37] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: does the light blink as if the cable is connected or not?
[02:37] <tensorpudding> xissburg: i think that somehow you resurrected the xp boot manager when you reinstalled xp
[02:37] <sacarlson> avi_:  who is the owner of the directory?
[02:37] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: headkase314: tensorpudding at least winehq doesn't have an entry in the appdb, but i'll keep looking around.
[02:38] <e__> 怎么一句也看不懂～～～
[02:38] <halvors> bastid_raZor: Is there some simple commands i can run? I have the executable file.
[02:38] <dude> vol7ron, I did that and saved, then ran the networking restart and I got the same error message
[02:38] <ilovefairuz> JimBastard: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy git-core    (to check available versions)
[02:39] <sacarlson> avi_: sorry my cd rom is offline so I can't simulate to see what you see
[02:39] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: nope, no blinking
[02:39] <bastid_raZor> halvors: you wanted to run a command on boot. correct?
[02:39] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: no led light at all?
[02:39] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/GrZ7dhwz
[02:39] <JimBastard> ilovefairuz: still root@hook:/usr/src# git --version git version 1.6.0.4
[02:39] <tensorpudding> xissburg: i'm running out of idea
[02:39] <vol7ron> dude: pastebin your ifconfig
[02:39] <xissburg> oh man it sucks...I have a lot of school stuff to do and I couldn't do anything because of this...everything depends on my main PC...
[02:40] <tensorpudding> xissburg: how did you install windows 7 on the machine in the first place?
[02:40] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: well, there is one led on, buinking
[02:40] <xissburg> I only have one thing to say...
[02:40] <grumbo> vol7ron: I grabbed the current development version from meld's git repo, built it and viola! buttons!
[02:40] <xissburg> OWNED
[02:40] <ilovefairuz> JimBastard: the command i gave you is to check the version in the repositories
[02:40] <BlueIceVirus_> is there anyone that can help me get my sound working?
[02:40] <dude> vol7ron different computer
[02:40] <fengshaun> where is the grub config file?
[02:40] <JimBastard> ilovefairuz: sorry yeah, thats the same version
[02:40] <tensorpudding> xissburg: the only idea i have left is to find a way to burn an iso of the windows 7 recovery disk
[02:40] <ilovefairuz> !info git-core | JimBastard
[02:41] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I had the three partitions, XP was installed first...few months ago I installed 7 in the other 80GB partition.
[02:41] <vol7ron> grumbo: so the pictures were dev lies :)
[02:41] <strav_> ilovefairuz, it worked from the grub shell... so I guess next thing to do is to checkout how to write a custom grub entry...
[02:41] <shuman> fengshaun: /etc/default/grub ?
[02:41] <xissburg> tensorpudding: YES
[02:41] <fengshaun> shuman, thanks
[02:41] <bastid_raZor> !grub2 | fengshaun : grub2 has many changes. read this page to learn more:
[02:41] <xissburg> perhaps I can do it...I need to find a CD where I can burn
[02:41] <vol7ron> dude: well do you use dhcp?
[02:41] <tensorpudding> xissburg: actually, wait, you could try reinstalling xp, that would restore xp to the mbr
[02:41] <JimBastard> git-core:   Installed: 1:1.6.0.4-1ubuntu2   Candidate: 1:1.6.0.4-1ubuntu2   Version table:  *** 1:1.6.0.4-1ubuntu2 0         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:41] <ilovefairuz> JimBastard: this is the latest version on lucid, what ubuntu version are you running?
[02:41] <dude> vol7ron, yes
[02:41] <jfelt> I have a question about the canonical-census package - I was wondering if anyone had any data on how many installs were out there, and what sort of hardware Ubuntu is being run on?
[02:41] <fengshaun> bastid_raZor, thanks
[02:41] <xissburg> tensorpudding: repair?
[02:41] <vol7ron> dude: have you looked into your router settings?
[02:41] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: pastebin: lshw -C network
[02:42] <cystic> trying out the new ubuntu... me menu is sweet
[02:42] <avi_> sacarlson, I own it. Interestingly, trying to change any of the other's access to it automatically switches back to none. I think we found our problem!
[02:42] <bastid_raZor> fengshaun: good luck.
[02:42] <tensorpudding> xissburg: you said that repair failed because you didn't have the password for Administrator
[02:42] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: do you know hot to edit grub?
[02:42] <fengshaun> bastid_raZor, no, I'm looking for menu.lst
[02:42] <strav_> ilovefairuz, still it's kinda strange update-grub2 cannot find my windows mbr... I have a pretty straightforward partition scheme.
[02:42] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: tensorpudding: this page has recovery DVD for win 7 link http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+from+the+DVD
[02:42] <rww> jfelt: the package was just put in the partner repository for OEM use. It hasn't seen significant (or any?) deployment yet, so there aren't any statistics
[02:42] <vol7ron> dude: you should type up what your ifconfig is saying and put it on pastebin
[02:42] <fengshaun> bastid_raZor, I want to add an entry
[02:42] <cystic> i wish there was a way to make status online available from me menu without opening epathany
[02:42] <xissburg> tensorpudding: the command line repair. The "installation repair"  worked
[02:42] <JimBastard> ilovefairuz: sorry, how can i check my current version? im on a random cloud instance doing some stuff righ tnow
[02:42] <tensorpudding> xissburg: installing again would overwrite any data you had on the XP partition, but it wouldn't destroy any data on the 7 partition, or the files
[02:42] <tensorpudding> xissburg: oh, okay
[02:42] <mankash> sometimes login screen keep coming back even if I type the correct password
[02:42] <tensorpudding> xissburg: do that
[02:42] <ilovefairuz> !info git-core jaunty | JimBastard, this is the latest version on jaunty
[02:42] <Guest2143> I recall using a program that creates a family tree type tree layout, but I can't remember the name (not GRAMPS). The term "thought bubble" comes to mind, Anybody know what it is?
[02:43] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: yea I wasted some time trying to run that from  pen drive
[02:43] <bastid_raZor> fengshaun: if you'll notice on that page, menu.lst is now unused and there is a different method for adding custom entries. all the information is addressed on the page linkd.
[02:43] <JimBastard> ?
[02:43] <ilovefairuz> JimBastard: you're running jaunty aren't you? not lucid
[02:43] <JimBastard> yes
[02:43] <fengshaun> bastid_raZor, my fault, thanks
[02:43] <JimBastard> i think so, how can i chec
[02:43] <JimBastard> im on a random instance
[02:43] <bastid_raZor> fengshaun: you're welcome.
[02:43] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/XGZpFKZm
[02:43] <ilovefairuz> !version | JimBastard
[02:44] <dude> vol7ron, sorry but what is pastebin?
[02:44] <avi_> sacarlson, Interesting. If I try to give myself file access, which by default "--", then try to give file access to "others", it automatically kills my file access.. Why should this happen?
[02:44] <JimBastard> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 9.04 Release:	9.04 Codename:	jaunty
[02:44] <ubuntu> hey!
[02:44] <vol7ron> dude:pastebin.com
[02:45] <vol7ron> dude: a place you can quickly paste some temporary text to let others view
[02:45] <ilovefairuz> strav_: boot the machine, press SHIT at boot, when the menu shows up, type 'c'
[02:45] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: you mean you tried to burn the DVD via the pen drive?  Sorry i don't understand what you mean.
[02:45] <dude> ok
[02:45] <xawan> Hey Everyone! How knows the solution of the skype microphone problem? My microphone (internal) works everywhere except in skype....When I see the info on pavucontrol, Didnt appaere the Alsa conf in a call of skype
[02:45] <vol7ron> dude: also, what does uname-r
[02:45] <vol7ron> dude: also, what does "uname -r" show
[02:45] <ilovefairuz> JimBastard: you'll have to upgrade to lucid if you want a more recent version
[02:45] <ilovefairuz> !who > JimBastard
[02:46] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, was away am now back.  Make sure you bookmark -> http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/ and when you find a sound person give them that link and tell them you successfully did that - that is something the person should know
[02:46] <JimBastard> ilovefairuz: i can't update the whole box i think, there is no way to just install the new git?
[02:46] <dude> vol7ron, 2.6.32.24-generic-pae
[02:46] <vol7ron> dude: by turning on auto eth0, what I meant (and hope you typed out) was "auto eth0" \n "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[02:46] <Licuadora> Speaking of drivers, how do i upgrade my Motherboard drivers?
[02:46] <headkase314> !grub2 | BlueIceVirus_
[02:46] <ilovefairuz> JimBastard: for for a ppa with prebuilt packages or compile from source
[02:46] <dude> vol7ron, 2.6.32-24-generic-pae
[02:46] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: i did bookmark it
[02:46] <Bookman> Are there any online poker sites that are friendly to ubuntu?
[02:46] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, ok good!
[02:47] <ilovefairuz> !ot | Bookman
[02:47] <dude> vol7ron , no I opend gedit and typed it it the file "auto eth0
[02:47] <Bookman> ilovefairuz, how is my question offtopic?
[02:47] <ilovefairuz> Bookman: because it is.
[02:48] <vol7ron> dude: include that after the auto lo stuff, but put both lines in there
[02:48] <pmp6nl> Bookman just use a modern browser like firefox and you should be fine
[02:48] <Bookman> ilovefairuz, not sure I understand your logic
[02:48] <headkase314> Bookman, this is a technical support channel for Ubuntu.  A poker side is not tech support..
[02:48] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: have you tried another cable ?
[02:48] <dude> ok
[02:48] <headkase314> s/side/site
[02:48] <Bookman> I am asking a simple question here....which online programs work with ubuntu?  Poker Stars?  No
[02:48] <McLinux> dude; can you do "wget www.google.com", then open the resulting page in Chrome or your preferred Browser?
[02:49] <BaKKaR> hello can I ask something regarding xampp on ubuntu here?
[02:49] <peepingtom> Could someone please tell me where I should ask questions about Ubuntu's implementation of ecryptFS? I'm wondering if it has support for Intel AES instructions.
[02:49] <Bookman> II think that is technical
[02:49] <ilovefairuz> Bookman: here is it: don't ask about poker-related topics here.
[02:49] <halvors> bastid_raZor: I want to simple to run an executable when system boot.
[02:49] <Dmstrdj> guess you cant get help unless they like the game
[02:49] <halvors> Also automaticly.
[02:49] <rww> ubottu: xampp | BaKKaR
[02:49] <shuman> BaKKaR: just ask, maybe someone can help you
[02:49] <shuman> maybe not
[02:49] <Bookman> ilovefairuz, why not?  Technical question....I don't understand
[02:49] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: Yeah, I have sai this before, many times. It worked in a Livecd of Ubuntu 8.04, But Sabayon, or Ubuntu 10.04 like i am using right now wont reckongnize it
[02:50] <Licuadora> Strange, indeed
[02:50] <Licuadora> I even re installed the kernel, and nothing
[02:50] <pmp6nl> Anyone know a way to reinstall Ubuntu and save configurations etc.?
[02:50] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: if not the cable, it's a driver issue
[02:51] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: There isnt a super easy way but it's not hard
[02:51] <Licuadora> How do i fix the driver?
[02:51] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: because it cannot detect the link (the cable)
[02:51] <vol7ron> dude: you have to restart the network after
[02:51] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: You can boot to a liveCD, mount your ubuntu partiton, put everything in a folder
[02:51] <dude> mclinux, connection refused
[02:51] <Wispring> hello everyone...is anyone here familiar with running VirtualBox under Ubuntu?
[02:51] <vol7ron> dude: s/network/network interface/
[02:51] <pmp6nl> peepingtom: ok. could I save the files in / and just restore them, or is that likely to cause more problems
[02:51] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Then when you re-install, don't format. Then you can move the configuration files back
[02:51] <McLinux> dude, that looks like a) proxy or b) firewall
[02:52] <sacarlson> xissburg: can't you just mount the win7 partition collect all your personal files and move them to your usb flash to save then and reinstall windows with something like this http://www.liliputing.com/2008/04/install-windows-xp-on-mini-note-usb.html
[02:52] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: you don't.. i'm trying to find if anyone else has encountered this issue, and please file a bug report (join #ubuntu-bugs for help on that)
[02:52] <dude> vol7ron, it took it!!!, what is the terminal command to stop firestarter service?
[02:52] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: i want to upgrade all my drivers, how do i do that?
[02:52] <BaKKaR> my question is, I am trying to install a php/mysql application and i have placed it in the script directory in the correct place. However when I try to begin the installation it says "This install has no rights to create or update file data.php. so I am not sure but I do belive this might be a file permission issue. Can someone shed some light for me on this one please.
[02:52] <Bookman> Ok, anyone else without a hate for poker.  Can you suggest a site that works with Ubuntu?
[02:52] <Licuadora> ok, thank you
[02:52] <vol7ron> dude: did it work?
[02:52] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: they get shipped with the kernel, so if we didn't find a workaround, you'll have to wait for a kernel update that fixes it
[02:52] <bastid_raZor> halvors: add the command to /etc/rc.local   ;use the full path to the command.
[02:52] <headkase314> Bookman, try "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" and ask there
[02:53] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: also, pastebin: /var/log/messages
[02:53] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: It's not an issue if you're selective about what configuration files you move back, just move back what you feel is necessary. Stuff in your home folder is always safe, you can't ruin a whole system with that stuff
[02:53] <Wispring> can anyone help me with getting sound to work in winxp under vmware under ubuntu?
[02:53] <dude> vol7ron ?dude: s/network/network interface/?
[02:53] <ilovefairuz> Bookman: one last time: poker is illegal in most parts of the world: do not ask about it here
[02:53] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: I think you could use sudo install.sh  to have superuser access at install
[02:53] <dude> vol7ron, I still cant connect but it recognizes the eth0 now
[02:53] <vol7ron> dude: nevermind that...ahh good
[02:54] <pmp6nl> peepingtom: is there a way to determine what configuration files I should keep?  or how I find them?  Basically I am just having a problem with kernels and I think a complete reintall might help.  thanks
[02:54] <ilovefairuz> Wispring: ask in ##windows
[02:54] <vol7ron> just do Firewall -> Stop Firewall
[02:54] <Bookman> ilovefairuz, no it is not.  Please keep personal opinions out of your help suggestions.
[02:54] <Wispring> no...it's an ubuntu thing
[02:54] <Wispring>  i run ubuntu
[02:54] <ilovefairuz> !ops | Bookman
[02:54] <bastid_raZor> Bookman: possibly ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:54] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: use the pendrive as CD
[02:54] <halvors> bastid_raZor: also at the bottom, /home/ss/executablefile ?
[02:54] <halvors> Only path?
[02:54] <xissburg> sacarlson: that would be a good last resort
[02:55] <cystic> why do all games on ubuntu suck so horribly?
[02:55] <BaKKaR> sacarlson, what I am trying to install is a web application. Something is similar to joomla or wordpress where you go to http://path-to-directory/scropt/install.php. and it gives  me this error when i am trying to install it.
[02:55] <headkase314> cystic, which games?
[02:55] <TheAnswer> :O LIESSSSSS
[02:55] <dude> cystic, try nexuiz
[02:55] <Wispring> use wine cystic
[02:55] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Well that really depends what you've made changes to. If it's just userland stuff like firefox profiles and the like, lots of gnome applications store their settings in your home folder at ~/.config and some apps store them at ~/.nameofprogram
[02:55] <cystic> pacman, air combat, 3d chess
[02:55] <bastid_raZor> halvors: yes, have 'exit 0' as the last line. add everything above it.  also make usre that /home/ss/executablefile has the executable permissions
[02:55] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: don't you have admin priv?
[02:55] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: so are you going to try tensorpudding's suggestion?
[02:55] <TheAnswer> what about Urban terror
[02:55] <vol7ron> dude: but I think "firestarter stop" might be the term command
[02:56] <dude> ok
[02:56] <Wispring> cystic use wine and run windows games
[02:56] <halvors> Yes it have
[02:56] <pmp6nl> peepingtom:  ok, thanks for the info.  Also, do you have an idea why a kernel would suddenly stop working properly or how I could go about recompiling an ubuntu kernel
[02:56] <halvors> But how do this using terminal
[02:56] <halvors> Also how save edited file in vi
[02:56] <ilovefairuz> Licuadora: to easily paste it: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /var/log/messages
[02:56] <BaKKaR> sacarlson, yes i do have admin priv but the thing is, how to setup a permission for that directory for the installer to work. can you help me with that pls as a starter
[02:56] <Licuadora> ilovefairuz: how do i do that var/log thing?
[02:56] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: repairing XP install
[02:56] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: I think you need to setup the config dir to 777 to start setup security after it installs
[02:56] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: i was just giving that page again because when you go to burn a windows recovery disk you'd need those links or ones like them.
[02:57] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: unless a program asks for you to type in your password before you makes changes to settings, those settings are stored in your home folder in those "hidden" dot folders. To see them in nautilus (gnome file browser), press ctrl+h
[02:57] <Bookman> ilovefairuz, did you get burned by online poker once?  I don't understand the excitement you seem to have over a simple question.  It it technical.  As with any other program.  Which one works with Ubuntu?
[02:57] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: As for recompiling, you almost certainly don't need to do that. What broke, exactly? does it just not boot after grub?
[02:57] <BaKKaR> sacarlson, so is it like #>chmod +777 directory-name, just like this?
[02:57] <bastid_raZor> halvors: you need to edit the file with sudo and to save and quit type :wq   in vim
[02:57] <headkase314> !ops | Bookman
[02:57] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: that sounds good
[02:57] <Wispring> i would google the ubuntu online poker thing
[02:58] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: man chmod
[02:58] <dude> vol7ron, YES it was the firewall too!!! thanks you so much for your help
[02:58] <tensorpudding> xissburg: assuming that it works, and you can boot into XP, follow http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+with+EasyBCD
[02:58] <tensorpudding> xissburg: Type 1 & 2 should do it
[02:58] <vol7ron> dude: everything good?
[02:58] <Bookman> Must be a sore point here.  I saw no harm in asking the question!
[02:58] <dude> vol7ron, why would my interfaces file lose eth0 all of a sudden?
[02:58] <tensorpudding> xissburg: choose the drive letter that refers to the windows 7 partition
[02:58] <headkase314> !troll | Bookman
[02:59] <Wispring> anyone here with running VirtualBox in Ubuntu?
[02:59] <vol7ron> dude: it doesn't need eth0 to operate (mine doesn't have it)
[02:59] <dude> vol7ron, I can connect now yes
[02:59] <BlueIceVirus_> anyone able to help me solve my audio issues
[02:59] <Bookman> headkase314, how is that?
[02:59] <headkase314> Bookman, asking same question over and over and receiving answer that here is not the place for your question.
[02:59] <pmp6nl> peepingtom: well it boots, but wireless, power management, and other features no longer work.  It was suddenly.  The kernel worked perfectly now not so much.  We cant find a kernel that works properly forthe comptuer
[02:59] <BaKKaR> sacarlson, i have tried that but it is invalid mod, i think i the command can be setup or syntax is different
[02:59] <tensorpudding> Bookman: there are online poker programs that work in Wine, check the Wine AppDB
[02:59] <halvors> bastid_raZor: How edit it?
[02:59] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: chmod 777 yourfile
[02:59] <dude> vlo7ron, it nust have been the firestarter, I didnt see it running in htop or anywhere else, oh well, I am still learning
[02:59] <vol7ron> dude: around the time Lucid came out a lot of people had internet problems
[03:00] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: take out th + you had there
[03:00] <halvors> Also i am inside vim but cant edit.
[03:00] <halvors> I opened with sudo.
[03:00] <Bookman> tensorpudding, that is a good option, thanks.
[03:00] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Is is like brand new hardware or weird old stuff? Did you install one of those cutting-edge kernels from the mainline ppa? You'd know if you did this, it wouldnt happen automatically
[03:00] <Wispring> Bookman WINE is ez to install...try it
[03:00] <SalmonSam> has anyone been able to use sip2sip with empathy?
[03:00] <dude> vol7ron, yes I almost went back to 9.10 but am hangin inthere
[03:00] <vol7ron> dude: I'm not a Linux guru, just because the interfaces file doesn't have it, doesn't mean there wasn't a cached version somewhere
[03:00] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: oh or dir  chmod 777 /theplace/yourdir
[03:00] <kingtut> is anyone getting an error massage proc/bus/usb
[03:00] <bastid_raZor> halvors: sudo vi /etc/rc.local   the press i to enter insert mode then make the changes. press Esc to exit insert mode. then :wq to exit and save
[03:00] <dude> vol7ron, more of a guru than I, thanks again
[03:01] <BaKKaR> sacarlson, ok i have tried that but still same error
[03:01] <vol7ron> dude: sometimes re-defining things fixes problems, just like flushing the dns
[03:01] <Bookman> Holy cow, I didn't need to get beat up here....wow. Some angry people.
[03:01] <vol7ron> dude: no problem, McLinux helped me with my problem, so I had to help someone else
[03:01] <dude> cystic, try nexuiz, it is a great fps
[03:01] <Wispring> Bookman can you see this?
[03:01] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Can you post the output of "uname -a"? That'd tell me what version of the kernel you're running, we could find out if someone an oddball one was installed. Things shouldnt randomly break in a stable ubuntu release, you're not running 10.10 maverick are you?
[03:01] <dude> vol7ron, ic pass it on huh? ok
[03:01] <Bookman> Wispring, yes
[03:02] <pmp6nl> Its a friends computer, an I3 processor based computer which seems to have issues with ubuntu.  We updated to 2.6.32-24-generic kernel and everything worked perfectly.  One day everything stopped working.  I am not sure if she did something or not, but we are trying to find a kernmel that will actually work with the hardware.  No its 10.04
[03:02] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: just open the whole /var/www then
[03:02] <halvors> and for save?
[03:02] <halvors> bastid_raZor: ?
[03:02] <vol7ron> dude: btw I don't think "firestarter stop" works, I think it just starts firestarter again
[03:02] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: not sure what dir you put it in
[03:02] <vol7ron> dude: I think it's "firestarter --stop"
[03:02] <bastid_raZor> halvors: :wq will save and quit
[03:02] <Wispring> Bookman chk your conference thing
[03:02] <dude> vol7ron, correct, I went into prefs and shut it down that way, and killed the auto start
[03:02] <sacarlson> BaKKaR:  maybe it's just a symlink  make sure if it is that you chmod at what it points to
[03:03] <vol7ron> dude: it also looks like there's a "lock" option
[03:03] <BaKKaR> sacarlson, i have it saved in the /opt/lampp/htdocs directory, i am running the xampp server
[03:03] <dude> vol7ron, i will try that one
[03:03] <nUboon2Age> Bookman: of course there are poker games in the repos.  as far as on-line poker goes i don't know if there is any native linux poker client, but here's two approaches: http://www.thepokerbank.com/rooms/ubuntu/
[03:03] <vol7ron> dude: I mean, the firewall could have been locked in the background, which blocked all your traffic
[03:04] <Bookman> nUboon2Age, thanks!
[03:04] <pmp6nl> peepingtom: Its a friends computer, an I3 processor based computer which seems to have issues with ubuntu.  We updated to 2.6.32-24-generic kernel and everything worked perfectly.  One day everything stopped working.  I am not sure if she did something or not, but we are trying to find a kernmel that will actually work with the hardware.  No its 10.04
[03:04] <sacarlson> BaKKaR: so no symlinks?
[03:04] <nUboon2Age> Bookman: i was just googling around for "ubuntu, on-line poker"
[03:04] <dude> vol7ron, true... ok firestarter --stop indeed shuts it down
[03:04] <BaKKaR> sacarlson, no symlinks.
[03:04] <ilovefairuz> nUboon2Age: do not discusses poker here
[03:05] <BaKKaR> sacarlson, lemme take a second look as well
[03:05] <vol7ron> dude: based on your ifconfig, it looks like your eth0 connection setting was good... I think going to your router page would have given you more information if you were truely connected and just your firewall was blocking your traffic
[03:05] <halvors> bastid_raZor: I got it, thank you ;)
[03:05] <Bookman> nUboon2Age, thanks, I was not understanding the animosity to my question here!
[03:05] <nUboon2Age> ilovefairuz: i'm not, just providing a few ubuntu references for the game.
[03:05] <dajskld> f
[03:05] <bastid_raZor> halvors: you're welcome
[03:05] <vol7ron> dude: you should check what ifconfig says now, just to compare if setting auto eth0 did anything
[03:05] <bazhang> Bookman, jpoker is in the repos
[03:05] <dude> voltron, router setup was aok. it was all on the local machine
[03:05] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: I have no idea, the only stuff you can do to screw up an Ubuntu kernel is to either install one of those "backports" packages which are newer kernel-modules (hardware drivers) that are ported to an older version of ubuntu (and they usually work fine). The other thing is to try and compile your own kernel modules, replacing some files with the ones that came with Ubuntu packages. So if you want to find out if it's an actual kernel pr
[03:06] <Dmstrdj> Bookman: that is plentiful here
[03:06] <headkase314> Bookman, I suggest you listen to bazhang as he is an operator here
[03:06] <vol7ron> dude: router may have been fine, but you can check the devices that are connected to the router on the router itself
[03:06] <BlueIceVirus_> any one able to help me with my sound card problems?
[03:06] <vol7ron> dude: if you found your MAC address there, then you know the problem wasn't with your network interface
[03:06] <dude> vol7ron, ifconfig doesnt have cast 192.168.1.255 now hmm, why would that be
[03:06] <nUboon2Age> Bookman: i think there was a bit of misunderstanding.  This is a bit a a stress environment where folks are trying to answer technical questions about ubuntu, and sometimes the stress and the definition of 'what is technical ubuntu question' can lead to misunderstandings.
[03:06] <Bookman> bazhang, yes but is there anything comparable to poker stars or the like?
[03:06] <dude> voltron ic re:router
[03:07] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Like when Ubuntu installs a new version of the kernel, it keeps the old ones. And all the kernel modules for different kernels live in their own folders, so if you were to for example try to compile your own modules and screw something up, it would generally only affect the kernel that's currently running.
[03:07] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: So if I had a diff X-FI card then i wouldnt have these problems?
[03:07] <pmp6nl> peepingtom:  is there some reason that uninstalling and reinstalling that kernel does not fix the issue?  Is there a way I can just download the kernel sources separately and compile them my self
[03:07] <Bookman> nUboon2Age, If that is the case, forgiven.
[03:07] <bazhang> Bookman, perhaps via wine if that is a windows game; check the appdb and join #winehq
[03:07] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: like a standard soundblaster card vs the msi ver that came with my mobo?
[03:07] <bazhang> !appdb | Bookman
[03:07] <vol7ron> dude: not sure, but you can make it broadcast that :)
[03:07] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, I think if you had a different card your chances of having working audio would be greater - yes what comes with the mobo is a good candidate to try.
[03:08] <Bookman> bazhang, see, perfect help with no animosity.  Love it!
[03:08] <dude> vol7ron, hmm interesting if I am thinking the same thing
[03:08] <BaKKaR> sacarlson, no symplinks there. Just the installation directory
[03:08] <bazhang> Bookman, apt-cache search poker turns up some others as well
[03:08] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, I think that because of the page I dug up (lost the link now) which talks about the x-fi specifically having issues under Ubuntu.
[03:08] <vol7ron> dude: if it's not broke, don't fix it... but it is good to understand
[03:08] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: the card I have now is the one that came with my mobo.
[03:09] <Dmstrdj> any chance the new 10.10 would be able to usetilize an ati radeon video card
[03:09] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, so there is no onboard sound for your mobo or the x-fi is onboard?
[03:09] <Wispring> anyone here familiar with getting sound to work in winxp under VirtualBox under Ubuntu?this is quite a technical question IMHO.
[03:09] <xissburg> I'm back, had to reset this machine
[03:09] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: i did read that the guy in the page you found was talking about the msi version, which is what I have
[03:09] <Bookman> bazhang, thanks again.  Let me check those out.  No bad words needed!
[03:09] <Dmstrdj> haha, use*
[03:09] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: how's it going?
[03:09] <bazhang> Dmstrdj, #ubuntu+1 for maverick support/discussion
[03:09] <pmp6nl> wispring: what have you tried?  Should work by default
[03:10] <Dmstrdj> bazhang: k thanks i look around there
[03:10] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: no on board audio,
[03:10] <bazhang> Wispring, you may also wish to ask in #vbox
[03:11] <Wispring> bazhang..thanks that's the kind of answere i needed
[03:11] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, if it comes down to it would you be willing to spend like $15 and get a generic card for audio?  I know it's not an x-fi but x-fi is really about gaming and there isn't much commercial high-end gaming on Ubuntu?
[03:11] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: You probably won't see any benefit from compiling one yourself versus installing the binary packages that are available though. The reason people do that is to add patches or use newer kernels than are supplied with Ubuntu. Have you tried booting to an earlier version of the kernel to see if it's actually a kernel problem? 'cause it's probably not an issue with the kernel, but some stuff in userland. Did everything break at once?
[03:11] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodmbspec&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&cat3_no=537&prod_no=1438
[03:11] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: the WinXp recovery is going on, I think it will be successful and bring XP back
[03:11] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: Ya, im tinking about getting one of those cheap usb sound cards
[03:12] <nUboon2Age> good xissburg. very good.
[03:12] <pmp6nl> peepingtom:  since she got the computer it has had problems running ubuntu (this was a commone thread on ubuntuforums).  Some kernels would allow for this, others that, and finally the one I am speaking of worked with everything.
[03:12] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, yeah theres no audio on that spec sheet so you have an x-fi add-in card.  Stay clear of USB audio!  Get a realtek add-in card - basic audio that works fine under Ubuntu
[03:12] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Also as for why uninstal/reinstalling kernel packages didn't work, were you trying to reinstall the kernel package that you were currently using, or did you boot into an earlier one to reinstall the latest kernel, or could you maybe have by mistake only uninstalled/reinstalled an older version of the kernel that wasn't in use?
[03:13] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: But it's a regular ubuntu install and it just randomly broke one day, right?
[03:13] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: Oh, ok no usb audio. Check ;)
[03:13] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: What im saying is that it's an issue caused by an update to the ubuntu kernel, you can easily boot to the older version by holding shift at boot and picking it at grub
[03:14] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: if booting to an older version doesn't fix it, you don't have a kernel issue :)
[03:14] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, yup, usb audio is as big a can of worms as your current x-fi!  Google whatever you decide to purchase + "ubuntu" and choose something that either has no negative links or has positive links
[03:14] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: and then you could easily reinstall without format and put your files back as we discussed earleir
[03:15] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: well like you said, all i need is simple audio for linux
[03:15] <pmp6nl> peepingtom: All kernels have had issues.  Just different issues with each kernel (ie: wireless, power management, screen flicker). The most recent kernel fixed all of these issues for a few days then it randomly stopped working properly
[03:15] <Licuadora> Does anyone knows what does this means?
[03:15] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, you can also check the Linux hardware compatibility list -> http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[03:15] <Licuadora> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/9004uBXJ
[03:15] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, yup basic audio is absolutely fine.
[03:15] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Do you need proprietary drivers? You can install a mainline kernel in Ubuntu
[03:16] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: but it doesn't ahve the headers so you can't use ubuntu-supplied proprietary drivers
[03:16] <Mqueue> how to burn UIF formats ?
[03:16] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[03:17] <Bookman> ilovefairuz, see, was that so hard to answer?  I was not doing anything wrong with my question
[03:17] <Jordan_U> peepingtom: There is a header package there as well.
[03:17] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: as tensorpudding recommended, these instructions would apply after you're able to boot into XP http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+with+EasyBCD
[03:17] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: my current card is on this list :/?
[03:17] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: !!!!
[03:17] <peepingtom> Jordan_U: I meant for the restricted stuff like nvidia proprietary drivers, am I wrong?
[03:17] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: except instead of 'vista' just replace with 'win 7'
[03:17] <peepingtom> Jordan_U: specifically the ubuntu-supplied proprietary binary driver modules
[03:17] <pmp6nl> peepingtom: I cant recall, its on a friends computer.  But if it does I have tried it both ways.  Just not sure why this particular model is having all these issues and why the one kernel just stopped working
[03:18] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I got some (old) CDRWs. I'll try to burn it on them
[03:18] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, here is ALSA compatible hardware -> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main Technically your card is on the list but it obviously shouldn't be.  I have realtek cards and fine those work like champs!
[03:18] <headkase314> s/fine/find
[03:18] <_GLaDOS_> Ah, I like these types of support channels
[03:18] <_GLaDOS_> Users helping other users
[03:18] <Bookman> headkase314, I was not doing anything wrong with my question.  I had it answered correctly before being reported for abuse.  I have no idea why you did that.
[03:19] <manu__> hello ubuntu people
[03:19] <headkase314> Bookman, whatever - its over.
[03:19] <Jordan_U> peepingtom: Ubuntu uses DKMS, which builds the drivers (or rather, the glue portion of them) when you install a new kernel. If the proprietary drivers are compatible with the version of the kernel you are installing at all, then they should work as long as you install the header package.
[03:19] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: well the other thing is  I only have a pcie x1 slot
[03:19] <maco> headkase314: realtek is one of a dozen companies making codecs for azelia (hda) audio chips.  each company has many many codecs & revisions of those though, so unless you're looking at a list of subsystem vendor id's paired with codec revisions...
[03:19] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: i dont have reagular pci slots avail
[03:19] <Bookman> headkase314, no it is not.  I still do not know why you did what you did.  I asked a simple question.
[03:20] <nUboon2Age> Bookman: just a misunderstanding i think.  let's move forward. :)
[03:20] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, a sound card is pretty low on requirements I think you could find one to go in a pcie x1 slot?
[03:20] <peepingtom> Jordan_U: So this is from a time before DKMS was implemented in Ubuntu? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000542.html
[03:20] <maco> BlueIceVirus_: keep in mind they make usb sound cards for like $10
[03:21] <BlueIceVirus_> maco: we already decided usb is a no go :)
[03:21] <headkase314> maco, how troublesome are USB sound cards in Linux - I have a bad feeling about them?
[03:21] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: im looking at newegg for pcie cards and they are only creatives and auzuretech
[03:21] <maco> headkase314: the guy that did ubuntu audio for years and years has two that work fine...  usb headsets are also usb sound cards (built into them) and i have one of those and its fine
[03:22] <pmp6nl> peepingtom:  would I just go to http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and try a new kernel and see what happens?  Use the package installer to install them then select that version in grub?
[03:22] <tensorpudding> xissburg: did those instructions help?
[03:22] <maco> headkase314: he actually recommended to one of our friends today "just go pick up a $10 usb sound card at best buy" with no mention of specific models to watch for
[03:22] <headkase314> maco what is the exact brand you could recommend to BlueIceVirus_ ?
[03:22] <Bookman> nUboon2Age, I just want to make sure that everyone understands that i asked a legit question.  No matter how harsh the help was at the beginning.
[03:22] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Yup, no harm done if it doesn't work
[03:22] <maco> headkase314: i have the impression they are very well supported
[03:22] <maco> headkase314: they have a /lot/ less variation than onboard cards do
[03:22] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I got WinXp to boot again. It is still finishing the repair
[03:22] <headkase314> maco, ok maybe my woogie feeling is misplaced for USB audio then?
[03:23] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I got some old CDRWs Ill try to burn that Win7 recovery in it
[03:23] <pmp6nl> peepingtom: so its that easy, just use the gdebi package installer for both the image and headers?
[03:23] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: It says theyre made for 10.10 maverick but I dont see why it wouldnt work with Lucid
[03:23] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Yup, I went through a similar thing with my laptop in Feb and it worked for me
[03:23] <HB2> hi somebody know why sometimes the flash objects turns "gray  color" ????
[03:23] <maco> headkase314: probably :)  most stores will let you return if it doesnt work in linux anyway. ive checked with microcenter and best buy on that, and they both said they'll take back for *any* reason in the first month
[03:24] <pmp6nl> peepingtom:  Thank you very much for your help, I will have her try various kernels and see what works.  I really appreciate your help!
[03:24] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, got maco's comment about returning?  Inquire about that pre-purchase and you only lose your time worst-case?
[03:24] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Just to clarify, did you ever have to install any drivers using the Ubuntu "hardware drivers" "Restricted driver" thing?
[03:24] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: no problem btw, good luck!
[03:24] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: sounds like an idea
[03:25] <pmp6nl> peepingtom:  I do not think so, but I cant remember (its on a friends computer).  will it matter with new kernels?
[03:25] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, keep asking questions!  Everyone here is better to recommend than just me! ;)
[03:25] <nUboon2Age> Bookman: yes i understand.  it is unfortunate, but true that problem does come up semi-frequently.  i don't quite know how to solve it.  bazhang is one of the operators and seems to understand your questions in the context they were intended so maybe having a chat with bazhang might be helpful.  its kind of a cultural issue with this channel.  people are a little tense at times and sometimes push the panic button a little
[03:25] <maco> BlueIceVirus_: in the meantime, whatever's wrong with your audio driver, please report a bug :)  ubuntu-bug -s audio
[03:25] <nUboon2Age> quickly.
[03:25] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Well that's what I was wondering, that Jordan_U guy said its not an issue but Ive read documentation that says there are no restricted modules in mainline builds
[03:25] <maco> Bookman: bazhang has already said in #ubuntu-ops that its just a misunderstanding and folks shouldnt worry about you
[03:26] <Bookman> nUboon2Age, Nice to know.  It would be nice to have the others admit.  No worries.
[03:26] <HB2> hi somebody know why sometimes the flash objects turns "gray  color" ???? I'm using Flash player 10 and nspluginwrapper 1.3 on amd64 arch =/ I HATE FUCKING FLASH !!!!!
[03:26] <ilovefairuz> maco: posting poker websites links here is VERY questionable at the very lest
[03:26] <maco> HB2: watch your language
[03:26] <headkase314> Bookman, ok - know I have that experience if it happens again.  grumble grumble, sorry.
[03:26] <pmp6nl> peepingtom:  ok.  I suppose it wouldnt hurt to install the kernel and see what happens... I can always switch back
[03:26] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: But lots of hardware has open source drivers now. Also just for future reference, you don't have to recompile a whole kernel to compile a module
[03:26] <maco> ilovefairuz: well if they were related to the question... but i wasnt here at the time
[03:26] <BlueIceVirus_> maco: done ;)
[03:27] <maco> BlueIceVirus_: thank you!
[03:27] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: those instructions wouldn't require getting the recovery dvd, but of course at some point you'll want/need it.
[03:27] <bazhang> Bookman, and others, lets move on please
[03:27] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: Like many drivers arent built into the kernel itself because they're so crappy that the Linux develpers won't let the code merge with theirs
[03:27] <Bookman> bazhang, done.  Just a learning experience I hope! Understanding!
[03:27] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: That's why Ubuntu has the restricted modules, and also for proprietary drivers
[03:27] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: the recovery DVD is to try to recover Win7
[03:28] <xissburg> now that the partitions are ok
[03:28] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: well i have another issue, freakin adobe flash isnt working
[03:28] <bazhang> Bookman, PM please
[03:28] <pmp6nl> peepingtom:  on the new kernel wont I have an option to select restricted drivers?
[03:28] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, flash not working as in at all or only when you try to click on it?
[03:28] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: er maybe not "restricted modules" for open source stuff that isnt in the kernel, but thats why Ubuntu has to add some drivers in separately
[03:28] <nUboon2Age> so to clarify xissburg there are two paths we are talking about here.  1) the http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+with+EasyBCD
[03:28] <peepingtom> pmp6nl: No idea, Jordan_U said so but https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000542.html says no, hopefully you can :)
[03:29] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: well im using chrome. and sites are asking me to install the latest, but its supposedly already in chrome
[03:29] <pmp6nl> peepingtom:  oh ok.  Thanks I will give it a whirl and see.  I really appreciate your help!!!
[03:29] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: that one doesn't require the recovery DVD and may/should fix the bootloader menu.
[03:29] <peepingtom> np. Also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds
[03:29] <bullgard> How can I determine if the program Rhythmbox depends on Avahi or Avahi depends on Rhythmbox?
[03:29] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, it is in chrome - I know that for a fact, sorry maybe the sites are not coded properly?  Does youtube work fine without errors?
[03:30] <manu__> if any of it syas an error
[03:30] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: 2) is only if you cannot boot into any version of Microsoft Windows.
[03:30] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: let me try
[03:30] <peepingtom> bullgard: Avahi doesnt depend on rhythmbox
[03:30] <mrman208> !rhythmbox | bullgard
[03:30] <ZykoticK9> BlueIceVirus_, i don't think the Chrome with flash built-in, is on linux yet (i could be wrong).  Try installing flash non-free or whatever it's called these days ;)  I get mine from ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[03:30] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: they recommend doing #1 first.
[03:31] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, I know for a fact because I saw a Chrome update the other day and consciously checked my flash version in Chrome, installed the update, checked flash again: and my flash version was higher.  So, it's a fact.
[03:31] <McLinux> Not booting into any version fo MS windows isn't neccessarily a Bad Thing(tm)
[03:31] <mj8741> Hi all: what program do I need to convert avi files to mp4?  thanks
[03:31] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: 2) if that doesn't work for some reason or you can't boot into windows (and i don't see why you wouldn't be able to now that you know you can recover XP)
[03:31] <bryanwithy> I'm getting a lot of errors on youtube and other flash sites with Chrome, but not firefox....
[03:31] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: we tried #1, it failed
[03:31] <bazhang> mj8741, handbrake
[03:32] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: not really
[03:32] <ZykoticK9> headkase314, you really should consider using Chromium over Chrome - just for the open source, reporting bugs in ubuntu fact.  Only an opion - please don't take offence :)
[03:32] <BlueIceVirus_> ZykoticK9: well ill give it a try anyeay
[03:32] <xissburg> :)
[03:32] <mj8741> bazhang: is that in Ubuntu repository?
[03:32] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: we didn't follow those instructions note for note i don't think.
[03:32] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: it failed...after that I coudn't boot again
[03:32] <headkase314> ZykoticK9, you are correct Chromium should be used over Chrome - I have no excuse ;)
[03:32] <ZykoticK9> headkase314, s/opion/opinion
[03:32] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: hm...we must be more careful this tiem
[03:32] <xissburg> *time
[03:33] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: but we weren't following those instructions.  we were trying to guess from memory.
[03:33] <bullgard> peepingtom: How can I review myself if your statement: "Avahi doesnt depend on rhythmbox" is true or false?
[03:33] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:33] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: bluetooth audio ;)
[03:33] <bryanwithy> :o
[03:33] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, ?? You got audio now?
[03:33] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: which instructions?
[03:33] <bryanwithy> congrats!
[03:33] <bazhang> mj8741, in a PPA as well as their website
[03:33] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: over bluetooth
[03:33] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: dont need a soundcard for that
[03:33] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, w00t! ;)
[03:34] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: better than nothing ;)
[03:34] <mj8741> bazhang: I'll check it out - thanks
[03:34] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: these ones.  just substitute Win X7 wherever it says Vista:  http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+with+EasyBCD
[03:34] <edju> Everything I've seen so far tells me that an iPhone is recognized by 10.04 out of the box.  Well, it isn't.  Not asking for a how-to here - but anyone have a pointer to a guide for the simple-minded?
[03:34] <BlueIceVirus_> headkase314: brb need to restart browser
[03:34] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus_, so does youtube work for flash?
[03:34] <ZykoticK9> mj8741, i certainly second bazhang's handbrake suggestion, if you want MP4.
[03:34] <xissburg> oooh I sseee
[03:34] <peepingtom> Is cryptd module related to ecryptfs?
[03:34] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: so that's #1
[03:35] <peepingtom> bullgard: Right-click and properties on the package in synaptic, or dpkg --help in terminal
[03:35] <peepingtom> ie. I dunno how to do it with dpkg but that'll tell you how
[03:35] <Rafi> hello anybody can help me? i forget my irc password. How can I get it back??
[03:35] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: 2) requires making a Win 7 recovery DVD so you'll need to be able to burn DVDs.  That's here:  http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+from+the+DVD
[03:36] <ZykoticK9> Rafi, you might want to try #freenode i believe.  Good luck.
[03:36] <rsvp> which keys will SWITCH DESKS 1 through 4 ??
[03:36] <Rafi> thanks zykoticK9
[03:37] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I can do it now I think, but not  a DVD, a CD...the Win 7 Recovery iso is 160MB big
[03:37] <magicianlord> rsvp: window key + e
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> nUboon2Age, xissburg could you please move the "Windows" talk to PM or ##windows ;)  Thanks.
[03:37] <xissburg> ZykoticK9: Windows allergic?
[03:38] <ZykoticK9> !ot > xissburg
[03:38] <headkase314> magicianlord, that is the default expo key in compiz however I don't know which keys they are by default to go straight to a particular desktop
[03:38] <bazhang> xissburg, offtopic here
[03:38] <nUboon2Age> ZykoticK9: please don't start in.  This is extremely ubuntu related.
[03:38] <peepingtom> edju: ipod touch suport generally comes from libgpod
[03:38] <bazhang> xissburg, try ##windows
[03:38] <peepingtom> edju: How "not working" is it?
[03:38] <bazhang> nUboon2Age, its at the windows support stage. ##windows please
[03:39] <xissburg> ZykoticK9: everything start after I installed ubuntu using Wubi from Win7...that's why I'm here.
[03:39] <maco> peepingtom: no ipod touch needs libifuse and libusbmuxd but those should be on a default install
[03:39] <xissburg> it trashed my boot loader
[03:39] <nomad> HI
[03:39] <nomad> i have a waxing crescent
[03:39] <rsvp> magicianlord, what window key?
[03:39] <magicianlord> headkase314: not sure. i don't use gnome much
[03:39] <maco> edju: keep in mind you have to use the itouch for one sync with itunes before you use it on ubuntu
[03:39] <nUboon2Age> ZykoticK9: bazhang xissburg using ubuntu to try to recover.
[03:39] <bazhang> nomad, does that relate to Ubuntu?
[03:39] <magicianlord> rsvp: between spacebar and control
[03:39] <nomad> possibly
[03:40] <bazhang> nomad, explain
[03:40] <headkase314> magicianlord, I'm on a Windows machine too at the moment so I can't pop into Compiz Settings Manager to see what the defaults are.
[03:40] <maco> magicianlord: could be a pc101 keyboard.. no windows key on that
[03:40] <edju> peepingtom, I have libgpod.  Well I plug it in, and no icon, no nothing.  Though dmesg shows it.
[03:40] <nomad> well
[03:40] <xissburg> ZykoticK9: bazhang this problem involves all OSes around ;)
[03:40] <nomad> when i went into osmo it told me i had a waxing crescent
[03:40] <Jordan_U> peepingtom: I'm using a mainline kernel with the standard nvidia package right now. Since that mail mentions linux-restricted-modules, which no longer exists as a package, it must be from before the switch to DKMS.
[03:40] <bazhang> nomad, okay nothing to do with Ubuntu; #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:40] <nomad> oh ok
[03:40] <headkase314> rsvp, if you use compiz for your desktop install compiz settings manager and it will be under System > Preferences.  There you can set keyboard shortcuts to particular desktops
[03:41] <edju> peepingtom, I have to use it w/ itunes first?
[03:41] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: let it go :)
[03:41] <peepingtom> Jordan_U: Makes sense I wasnt trying to antagonize you just wanted an answer :) Thanks
[03:41] <nomad> i love ubuntu
[03:41] <rsvp> magicianlord, that does not work here... ummm -- any alternatives?
[03:41] <peepingtom> edju: I honestly have no idea, im reading about it now
[03:41] <nomad> and i cant wait for maverick
[03:41] <Jordan_U> peepingtom: np, and you're welcome :)
[03:41] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314: well youtube video works now after getting that plugin that other guy mentioned but now audio
[03:41] <magicianlord> ubuntu should combine unity with openbox
[03:41] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314: no audio from youtube
[03:42] <tom__> hello i have problem with intel G41 graphics
[03:42] <rsvp> headkase314, thanks -- what are some good unused combos for switching desks?
[03:42] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, sorry.
[03:42] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, back to getting a "recommended" pcie x1 audio solution?
[03:42] <BlueIceVirus> LOL
[03:43] <tom__> i am connected to a VGA KVM switch
[03:43] <nomad> video games are at times more difficult than real life
[03:43] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: :) no worries
[03:43] <headkase314> rsvp, if you use compiz and install it's settings manager you can make the key combinations anything you would like.  Compiz is *highly* configurable and its all done through an easy graphic user interface.
[03:43] <tom__> when xwindows starts G41 chipset doesn't recognise vga connection and defaults to dvi i guess
[03:43] <nomad> x-moto is a fun game though. im happy with the selection in ubuntu
[03:44] <tom__> when monitor plugged in directly to vga it works
[03:44] <rsvp> headkase314, I'm looking at the UI now... ones of interest are disabled.  Any good suggestions?
[03:44] <nomad> why do some people still run older versions of ubuntu
[03:44] <onlybleeding> hey guys, trying to get my drivers working for this laptops radeon mobility x2300...
[03:45] <BlueIceVirus> headkase314: im going to try a diff browser
[03:45] <onlybleeding> found this page that looked promising: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478238
[03:45] <headkase314> rsvp, perhaps Super + F1 through F4 for your desktops?
[03:45] <onlybleeding> someone posted a huge list of commands
[03:45] <onlybleeding> but when I do sudo aticonfig --initial
[03:45] <sacarlson> nomad: notice most people in here have problems from update.  maybe that's why?
[03:45] <headkase314> BlueIceVirus, I'm away for about 5 minutes from now - be back in 5
[03:45] <rsvp> BlueIceVirus, be sure to check out "meld" -- it's great for diff side-by-side.
[03:46] <onlybleeding> I get aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[03:46] <onlybleeding> every command up until there seems to work ok...
[03:47] <edju> peepingtom, Where are you reading about the itouch?
[03:48] <murlidhar> i have downloaded ubuntu netbook remix and tried to boot from a usb disk but i am not able to boot it. :(
[03:48] <blueicevirus> headkase314: ok buddy
[03:48] <murlidhar> can anyone confirm that ubntu netbook remix cannot be installed on a desktop ?
[03:48] <blueicevirus> headkase314: i just learned empathy has irc chat  yay
[03:49] <tensorpudding> xissburg: any luck?
[03:49] <peepingtom> edju: I'm checking out libmobiledevice and libgpod and ifuse changelogs
[03:49] <peepingtom> edju: What version do you have?
[03:49] <murlidhar> blueicevirus: it doesn't support tab autocomplete even.
[03:49] <peepingtom> edju: Ill let you know if I find something user-friendly
[03:49] <murlidhar> completion*
[03:50] <blueicevirus> murlidhar: i think it does
[03:50] <xissburg> tensorpudding, nUboon2Age I'm now in Xp, and can boot in it normally
[03:50] <blueicevirus> murlidhar: it does
[03:50] <edju> peepingtom, What version of what?
[03:50] <murlidhar> blueicevirus: :( i am not able to use it as a live cd.
[03:50] <murlidhar> dunno why
[03:50] <blueicevirus> murlidhar: but not like the web version, you have to type a little more of the name
[03:51] <blueicevirus> murlidhar: maybe it needs updates
[03:51] <murlidhar> blueicevirus: yes a lot of updates necessary.
[03:51] <peepingtom> edju: iphone/pod?
[03:51] <tensorpudding> xissburg: have you tried restoring windows 7 bootloader using those instructions?
[03:52] <murlidhar> blueicevirus: not just for irc but im protocols too
[03:52] <blueicevirus> murlidhar: yep
[03:52] <peepingtom> edju: cursory google search give you this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone good luck!
[03:52] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I'll do so now. Also, i already burned the Win 7 Recovery disc
[03:52] <nUboon2Age> tensorpudding: note that we were getting some neg. feedback about talking about a (partially) win prob here on this channel.
[03:52] <headkase314> blueicevirus, so how goes the flash struggle with a different browser?
[03:53] <blueicevirus> trying to install ff now
[03:53] <edju> peepingtom, I have a hand-me-down 1st generation iPhone, w/o a phone account - use wireless.
[03:53] <rsvp> headkase314 et al. -- thanks for your help -- I'm using MENU key for workspace 1 and MENU+WINDOWS keys for workspace 2. Works great! quick switching.
[03:53] <headkase314> blueicevirus, for ff you will need to install "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[03:53] <edju> peepingtom, I'll check it out - thanks.
[03:53] <headkase314> blueicevirus, to get flash in ff
[03:53] <murlidhar> blueicevirus: but also they can't update it cuz actually it is the telepathy plugins that need to be updated.
[03:53] <headkase314> rsvp, you're welcome! ;)
[03:54] <blueicevirus> so what is a good browser?
[03:54] <xissburg> ff
[03:54] <murlidhar> firefox
[03:54] <bazhang> !browsers > blueicevirus
[03:54] <murlidhar> chromium if u not into custom fonts and stuff.
[03:54] <peepingtom> edju: basically "unlock it before plugging it in", I guess :)
[03:54] <headkase314> blueicevirus, I use chrome but the big contenders on Ubuntu are ff, chromium (open source Chrome), and Opera
[03:55] <edju> peepingtom, That's what I mean - it just says it works.
[03:55] <blueicevirus> ubottu: i dont know how to view pms in empathy
[03:55] <murlidhar> anyone know if ubuntu netbook remix can be installed or used as a live cd on a desktop ?
[03:55] <pmp6nl> Trying to install a header and get a dependencies error... any idea how to fix this?'
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> murlidhar:  yes it can
[03:56] <IdleOne> blueicevirus: you should see a tab at top of your window with the name ubottu
[03:56] <murlidhar> oh
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> murlidhar:  it may look a little weird on a BIG monitor. :) but it can work.
[03:56] <murlidhar> Dr_Willis: 14inch screen ?
[03:56] <IdleOne> blueicevirus: I mean at the top of empathy
[03:56] <blueicevirus> IdleOne: no tab here
[03:56] <bebo_mz> hi every one
[03:56] <bebo_mz> i need help
[03:56] <murlidhar> !ask | bebo_mz
[03:56] <bebo_mz> my clamav antivirus engine is outdate
[03:56] <LinuxFetus> Hey I have Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit.  How do I install Eclipse Helios?
[03:57] <blueicevirus> what is eclipse helios?
[03:57] <murlidhar> a game i think.
[03:57] <LinuxFetus> murlidhar: No.
[03:58] <murlidhar> sounds like a game name though
[03:58] <LinuxFetus> blueicevirus: Eclipse is one of the more popular Java IDE's (if not the most popular?).  Helios is the most recent version.
[03:58] <blueicevirus> IDE?
[03:58] <Fshy> LinuxFetus -- I used the zip version.
[03:58] <LinuxFetus> blueicevirus: Integrated Developer Environment.  It's what programmers use instead of editing things from like gedit or something.
[03:58] <bazhang> !ide | blueicevirus
[03:58] <Fshy> You can then replace the default(Europa?) by changing it there.
[03:59] <Fshy> The ubuntu repo's don't actually have Helios.
[03:59] <murlidhar> blueicevirus: integrated development environment ? ide !
[03:59] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: what does ff mean?
[03:59] <blueicevirus> LOL ok
[03:59] <murlidhar> nUboon2Age: firefox
[03:59] <nUboon2Age> Fshy: i just had to go to eclipse.org to get helios.
[04:00] <Fshy> So go to their site and get the compressed version, extract, and, if you feel like it, replace the app data stuff with Helios.
[04:00] <blueicevirus> how do i install a bz2 file
[04:00] <nUboon2Age> murlidhar: oh thank you. :) xissburg
[04:00] <LinuxFetus> Fshy: That didn't quite make sense... But I'll try and do it.
[04:00] <Fshy> nUboon2Age -- sure, but thats only runnable from the extracted folder or from a shortcut.
[04:00] <blueicevirus> i dled ff as a bz2 file, but there is no ./configure
[04:00] <Fshy> You know what, I'm not making sense to anyone but myself.
[04:00] <murlidhar> mention not nUboon2Age
[04:00] <Fshy> Just go to their site and get the compressed version, and extract.
[04:00] <nUboon2Age> Fshy: yes i think you're right.
[04:00] <sacarlson> bebo_mz: most of us here don't use antivirus since it's not a problem in linux/ubuntu it's a windows thing
[04:00] <headkase314> blueicevirus, what kind of bz2 file? Source code, icons, window frames?
[04:01] <Fshy> Isn't that a packaged file?
[04:01] <nUboon2Age> Fshy: in other words when you evoke it you have to give an explicit path, yes?
[04:01] <LinuxFetus> Fshy: I'm downloading the tar.gz file right now.  I don't know what's in it exactly.
[04:01] <blueicevirus> headkase314: glad your back. i downloaded firefox and it gave me a bz2 file
[04:01] <xissburg> what lool
[04:01] <Fshy> Everything, LinuxFetus.
[04:02] <Fshy> Just extract it to a folder, and there'll be a runnable file in there.
[04:02] <peepingtom> blueicevirus: Don't do that.
[04:02] <Fshy> nuBoon2Age -- correct.
[04:02] <headkase314> blueicevirus, oops saw ff after ;) ff should be installed by default with Ubuntu.  There are ppa's for later versions but really do not recommend them - you should stay with the default install.
[04:02] <peepingtom> blueicevirus: Do you just want a cutting edge version?
[04:02] <headkase314> blueicevirus, Should be under: Applications > Internet > Firefox
[04:02] <Fshy> Although I personally wouldn't have used vocabulary that suggested a medieval atmosphere myself, NUBoon2Age :P
[04:02] <blueicevirus> peepingtom: no, i removed ff earlier ;?
[04:02] <peepingtom> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[04:03] <LinuxFetus> Fshy: So is it like Windows, then -- self-contained into one folder?  I'm not familiar with the file structure in Linux -- what gets stored in /home /etc /boot /dev /usr or whatever directories there are.  Are you saying I just need to extract it to a common directory and everything will be runnable from that directory?   That's the way it is in Windows... you just extract the folder and run eclipse.exe.
[04:03] <bebo_mz> sacarlson : i usr it because in my network they use windows and i was use windows but now ubuntu 10.04 but i use clamav for scan my flash momery and any thing i take it from my network
[04:03] <headkase314> blueicevirus, be warned if you install the ppa it could break on a bad update and you'll have to wait for the next update to hopefully fix it.
[04:03] <xissburg> tensorpudding: nUboon2Age now I have Win 7 booting :DD
[04:04] <McLinux> LinuxFetus: If running as the current user, then yes, that's how it works.  It won't be available to other users unless configured to be, by the administrator.
[04:04] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: yessssssssss!!!!! Goooooooaaaaaaaalllllllll!
[04:04] <Fshy> Bingo, LinuxFetus.
[04:04] <xissburg> tensorpudding:  nUboon2Age easyBCD failed in the first try...it trashed the boot again...the Win 7 Recovery disc did it in *one click*
[04:04] <ZykoticK9> blueicevirus, i think headkase314's comment is accurate, but "harsh".  PPAs are very handy, if you want/need more up-to-date software on Ubuntu.
[04:04] <xissburg> BUT
[04:04] <sacarlson> bebo_mz: maybe something like this freshclam
[04:05] <xissburg> now I can't boot in Win XP and Ubuntu :x
[04:05] <headkase314> ZykoticK9, I'm a fan of ppa's just not for firefox ;)
[04:05] <LinuxFetus> Fshy: McLinux: Well I have access to root and I can sudo...   What's the Linux equiv of "Program Files"  I figure I can extract it there... should I chmod anything?
[04:05] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: okay, good to know.
[04:05] <ZykoticK9> headkase314, actually i used to have problems with firefox's PPA as well (don't use FX anymore)
[04:05] <McLinux> there are many strategies, one would be to create /usr/local/eclipse and chmod it so it is available to all users
[04:05] <blueicevirus> headkase314: ?
[04:05] <bebo_mz> sacarlson :freshclam i know that is that in to clamav
[04:06] <xissburg> well 7 is my main OS here. But now...to fix the others.. oh well...I think I can let it to another day :)
[04:06] <LinuxFetus> McLinux: Isn't there a /usr/share ?
[04:06] <headkase314> blueicevirus, specify ?
[04:06] <headkase314> ;)
[04:06] <blueicevirus> Im not getting pms if you guys are sending them
[04:06] <sacarlson> bebo_mz: yes thats the command you run to update the database for clamav
[04:06] <McLinux> LinuxFetus: it varies by flavor, but yes. the idea is /usr/** is user domain stuff.
[04:07] <xissburg> its quite funny to look at it now...after every thing, pushing youy guys knowledge and skills to the limit...the Win 7 Recovery CD did the job in *on click* :/
[04:07] <sacarlson> bebo_mz: normaly it's setup in crontab to auto run at intervals
[04:07] <McLinux> i'm not actually an expert on ubuntu itself
[04:07] <McLinux> it's just what i run  now, so i'm here
[04:07] <blueicevirus> headkase314: well back to square one with sound, Im not getting sound from ff or chrome
[04:07] <muelli> well McLinux, LinuxFetus. It'd better be /usr/local/. "/usr/" does not stand for "user" but rather "unix system resources".
[04:08] <xissburg> well, I have to say thank you very much, lots of guys helped but specially tensorpudding  and nUboon2Age. I can't believe how helpful you guys are
[04:08] <tensorpudding> muelli: pretty sure that's a backronym
[04:08] <bebo_mz> sacarlson : so i write sudo apt-get upgrade freshclam to upgrade clamav engine
[04:08] <LinuxFetus> muelli: What does "local" refer to, then?
[04:08] <McLinux> muelli: thanks, so /usr/local/share, it is
[04:08] <headkase314> blueicevirus, I think if you want to stick with Ubuntu the best thing you can do is crack open the case pull out the x-fi and put in any old generic sound card.  I really think that would be the solution to the woes.
[04:08] <tensorpudding> it used to be that user accounts were under /usr
[04:09] <tensorpudding> in systems like plan 9, they still are
[04:09] <McLinux> There are no laws, you could install things in /opt/*** if you desired, as long as you configured the correct perms, and setup the symlinks
[04:09] <sacarlson> bebo_mz: no to upgrade the clamav engine i think it's just apt-get install clamav
[04:09] <xissburg> do you guys think that if I uninstall ubuntu (Wubi) it will trash the boot again?
[04:09] <LinuxFetus> McLinux: I figured there weren't "laws"  I just wanted to keep things logically organized.
[04:09] <headkase314> blueicevirus, just responded to the pm you sent - I don't know how long it was there unnoticed!  Shouldn't really pm, see this next line:
[04:09] <headkase314> !pm
[04:09] <tensorpudding> xissburg: i don't think so
[04:10] <muelli> well McLinux. Again, you'd rather not overwrite files put there by the system^tm, i.e. by any installed package. So pretty much everything except /home/, /usr/local/ or /opt/ is out.
[04:10] <LinuxFetus> Is ubottu a bot?
[04:10] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: one thing that is very notable about all the ubuntu irc channels and the ubuntuforums.org in my experience is the extremely patient and helpful approach people take.  and it can be a "pass it forward" kind of experience, so now that you've been helped hopefully you will come back and help others.
[04:10] <xissburg> tensorpudding: I'll do it now then lol...I cant boot in Ubuntu nor XP now, only 7
[04:10] <IdleOne> LinuxFetus: yes ubottu is a bot
[04:10] <tensorpudding> xissburg: you can configure the bootmanager using easybcd, and create entries for them
[04:10] <bebo_mz> sacarlson : i aredy install it clamav and calmtk
[04:10] <blueicevirus> LOL, i found all my pms from you guys. at the menu bar have to click the envalope
[04:10] <McLinux> LinuxFetus: My personal habit has beent o install user based stuff to /usr/share or /usr/local such as perosnally compiled, etc... and barring that.. going to /opt (e.g. /opt/SomeSoftware)
[04:11] <LinuxFetus> muelli: So are you saying that those 3 directories are not overwritten by the system and therefore are safe to put something like this?
[04:11] <blueicevirus> headkase314: ok
[04:11] <muelli> LinuxFetus: yes.
[04:11] <sacarlson> bebo_mz: yes and if there is a newer version then it will install that too
[04:11] <headkase314> blueicevirus, ok too ;)
[04:11] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I love to be able to help, in this sense I don't have much experience so I usually am not capable of delivering a high quality and advanced help as you guys can
[04:11] <xissburg> but as I learn more I help more
[04:12] <blueicevirus> headkase314: anyway, im done fking with ubuntu for the day. back to windows and play some SC2 :) thaks for the help
[04:12] <magicianlord> is there a solution to the blinking cursor problem in netbook remix maverick that causes it to not boot?
[04:12] <headkase314> blueicevirus, you're welcome! Hope you come back regularly ;)
[04:12] <xissburg> tensorpudding: do you think that if I do this using EasyBCD in Win7 I can get the boot to work right for the 3 OSes?
[04:12] <blueicevirus> headkase314: will do
[04:12] <muelli> magicianlord: most likely ;-)
[04:12] <bebo_mz> sacarlson:http://pastebin.com/YG3F9DEF
[04:12] <rww> magicianlord: Maverick support is in #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <magicianlord> thanks
[04:13] <muelli> magicianlord: Try to boot without the "quite" parameter. Edit your boot line in GRUB, probably by hitting delete to get into GRUB und then and "e" to edit your boot line. Remove "quite" and try to boot.
[04:13] <sacarlson> bebo_mz: see your already up todate so all you need is to run freshclam
[04:13] <rww> muelli: it's spelled "quiet"
[04:13] <muelli> oh. maverick. sorry
[04:14] <LinuxFetus> McLinux: muelli: What's the command to extract a tar.gz file to a specified directory?  I figure I'm gonna have to sudo this since my /usr folder has a lock on this... and it's good for me to know the CLI, I figure, anyway.
[04:14] <muelli> rww: thanks. you're right. magicianlord ^^
[04:14] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: no i still doubt wubi was really the problem.  if you run install or uninstall wubi the most it could do is confuse the bootloader, but now you have a quick recovery for that.  Also i think you should be able to use easybcd (or other tools, but i think easybcd should work fine now from win 7) to fix the bootloader menu so that it properly can address and start XP.
[04:14] <muelli> LinuxFetus: well. the simples thing to do is "cd directory; tar xvf /path/to/file.tar.gz"
[04:14] <LinuxFetus> muelli: xvf?
[04:14] <headkase314> LinuxFetus, I would recommend extracting helios in your home folder like -> /home/username/programs/helios <- you can run it from there fine and don't need to worry about permissions
[04:15] <muelli> LinuxFetus: do a "man tar" to get an explanation.
[04:15] <newbie> i need help with nvidia drivers please
[04:15] <JetPackTuxedo> Has anyone played around with some of rythmbox's CI?
[04:15] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I'll try that now since now Im secure that I can (probably) recover it using the Win 7 Recovery disc :0
[04:15] <JetPackTuxedo> *CLI
[04:15] <bebo_mz> sacarlson : but when i open clamtk it's write antivirus engine 0.96.1 is outdate and theres new v 0.96.2
[04:15] <LinuxFetus> muelli: I did that before I asked... I'm just not familiar with options that don't involve hypens.
[04:15] <rww> LinuxFetus: extract (x) the following file (f) and give verbose output (v)
[04:15] <muelli> LinuxFetus: nevermind. tar is very old and doesn't follow new age hyphenation rules ;-)
[04:15] <rww> LinuxFetus: see the DESCRIPTION section. The hypen is optional for tar options
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> bebo_mz:  yes. the thing updates so much - the version in the repos quickly gets 'old' but the program shuld still update teh virus definitions - thats the imporntant part.
[04:16] <newbie> HELP NVIDIA DRIVERS
[04:16] <muelli> !ask | newbie
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> newbie:  state the actual problem to the channel.
[04:16] <muelli> !details | newbie
[04:16] <newbie> CANT GET  NVIDIA DRIVER TO LOAD  ON UBUNTU 10.4
[04:17] <Fshy> Yes, thank you for the caps lock.
[04:17] <xissburg> lol
[04:17] <Fshy> That always gets people to help.
[04:17] <justin_> does anyone have a suggestion for a 3d online game for linux that is similar to modern warfare 2
[04:17] <LinuxFetus> muelli: is xfv shorthand for -x -f -v ?
[04:17] <sacarlson> bebo_mz: that's just the graphical front end to the clamav but you can apt-get install clamtk  also if you want the latist
[04:17] <muelli> LinuxFetus: probably :-)
[04:17] <shiftingcontrol> can anyone tel me hw to remove recovery option in grub2?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> shiftingcontrol:  the Grub2 docs/wiki page tell how to do that. and other tweaks
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | shiftingcontrol
[04:17] <kcaddon> so I've heard osx is better than ubuntu
[04:18] <muelli> ...
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> kcaddon:  ive also hears such discussions go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:18] <newbie> driver installed wont start on alienware m11x64 bit ubuntu
[04:18] <GHH> photo editing and designing software in Ubuntu like  photoshop (without GIMP) please?
[04:18]  * headkase314 dons flameproof suit - kcaddon 
[04:18] <LinuxFetus> muelli: Does that sort of shorthand work on other commands, too?  Like in general, if I want -a -b -c .... I can just do abc... ?
[04:18] <justin_> osx is no way better than ubuntu
[04:18] <bebo_mz> sacarlson : so the antivirus engine is has updated and i install last v of clamtk
[04:18] <muelli> LinuxFetus: probably not :-(
[04:18] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: another thing you can do to run Ubuntu is Portable Ubuntu.  Its kinda like Wine in reverse.  it allows you to run Ubuntu and most Ubuntu programs under windows.
[04:18] <muelli> LinuxFetus: but sometimes, yes. Just try :-)
[04:18] <justakill> hey is the're a liferea irc channel?
[04:18] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: I read somewhere that there is/was a bug in Wubi where after the installation of a specific update in Ubuntu it would possibly trash the boot loader. Its exactly what happened to me
[04:18] <itai_michaelson> hi - i just installed amarok and no sound comes out of it, it appears to be playing but i cant hear anything, VLC plays the same tracks fine
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> GHH:  theres other photo editing apps out there. but i never bother with them.   no idea what you mean by 'desiging software'
[04:19] <justakill> Anyone here use liferea
[04:19] <justakill> ?
[04:19] <newbie> i need help making compiz work but ant get driver to work
[04:19] <rww> justakill: #liferea, unsurprisingly. If you're using it on Ubuntu and have questions, this channel works too.
[04:19] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: Portable Ubuntu Tres is basically Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala.
[04:19] <LinuxFetus> muelli: Just a quirk of this one?  It's weird, not all commands have the same logic to them... Like I remember seeing one the other day that didn't use hyphens at all... But yeah, I guess your suggestion is the simplest :)
[04:19] <GHH> Dr_Willis, Photo design
[04:19] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: do you know where you saw that bug report so i can read it too?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> newbie:  with video issues. always tgell the channel the exact chipset.
[04:19] <headkase314> newbie, go to: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, what is listen in the box there?
[04:19] <well_laid_lawn> justakill: there's #liferea
[04:20] <sacarlson> bebo_mz: well I never ran clamtk clamav has always been invisible and automatic.  so yes I guess, after update clamtk run it and see
[04:20] <headkase314> newbie, listed not listen..
[04:20] <justakill> join #liferea
[04:20] <justakill> oops
[04:20] <muelli> LinuxFetus: yeah. As I'm saying. There are old school tools like tar, dd, ... which behave not very nice ;-) But you'll figure out. Once you learn the power of man pages, you'll be fine :o)
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> GHH:  check the package manager, and the getdeb web site.. and perhaps some other linux software sites. There proberly tools out there that do what you want. but tjhey may not be in the default repos.
[04:21] <nUboon2Age> if you have a faster machine Portable Ubuntu works fairly decently.  xissburg
[04:21] <newbie> NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M video chipset cant get to work please help
[04:21] <McLinux> LinuxFetus; tar doesn't exactly extract to a specific dir
[04:21] <headkase314> newbie, again, go to: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, what is listed in the box there?
[04:21] <GHH> Dr_Willis, Then only GIMP in Ubuntu?For KDE?
[04:21] <muelli> well McLinux. the manpage tells otherwise.
[04:21] <muelli> -C
[04:21] <kcaddon> so I've heard osx is better than ubuntu
[04:21] <McLinux> yes -C tells it to chdir
[04:21] <McLinux> if it EXISTS
[04:21] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: Portable Ubuntu Tres is here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableubuntu/
[04:22] <muelli> kcaddon: please go to #ubutnu-offtopic for those kinds of discussions. They are not welcome here.
[04:22] <newbie> under hardware driver s listed is accelerated hardwared rivers
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> GHH:  theres other Photo 'editing'  and manipulation programs out there for Linux. - I dont use them. I tend to use gimp for my minimal needs.
[04:22] <justakill> well
[04:22] <prince_jammys> LinuxFetus: gnu tar can be made to change into a dir with -C
[04:22] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: hmm I'll try to find it...not sure if I'll get it
[04:22] <muelli> kcaddon: #ubuntu-offtopic even. sorry.
[04:22] <McLinux> unlke typical ZIP operations which would create the directories for you (where you have permissions) where applicable.
[04:22] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: did you know where i could read that bug report?
[04:22] <headkase314> newbie, there should be a "recommended" one for your nvidia card there.  Click the recommended one then click on "Activate"  Once that is done reboot your system and come back here.
[04:23] <McLinux> -C tells it to perform teh 'untar' AT that particular location
[04:23] <justakill> i don't know if the problem is ubuntu related but what happens is i cannot use the feed name rule in liferea
[04:23] <justakill> i don't know if anyone else has this problem
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> justakill:  perhaps chedk the forums.. also check the lifera forums
[04:23] <justakill> well i can use it it just dosn't seem to work
[04:23] <justakill> i tried to look around not getting any real answer
[04:24] <justakill> i'd also like to know if liferea is particulary bugged and slow or if its just my computer thats not working well....
[04:24] <justakill> anyway if any one can fill me in....
[04:25] <LinuxFetus> McLinux: Alright, now how do I edit what appears under my "Applications" ?  Since I didn't use a package manager, it didn't automatically list it there, I take it...
[04:25] <McLinux> Are you talking about hyour menu?
[04:25] <headkase314> LinuxFetus, under: System > Preferences > Main Menu is the editor for your menus.
[04:25] <muelli> LinuxFetus: put a .desktop file in  ~/.local/share/applications/
[04:26] <abhijit> Good Morning!
[04:26] <McLinux> Right-click on "Applications" --> select "edit Menus"
[04:26] <abhijit> :)
[04:26] <sacarlson> LinuxFetus: but you can find the package manager synaptic in system>administration>synaptic package manager
[04:26] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: http://www.omaregan.com/?p=583 at the *The Trouble Begins* but it is not exactly my problem.
[04:26] <LinuxFetus> sacarlson: True, but the application I wanted wasn't in the standard whatever they're called (the URL's the package managers check...)
[04:27] <num-lock> Hi my HDD went out no big deal. I rma it. But for now I installed ubuntu 9.04 to a usb 16gb stick and it seems this older pc cant boot from it. It sees it. Its just not in the bios options or under the qucik boot menu. Can I boot in to the live cd then boot in to the usb install of ubuntu? If so how its been a while since I played with sudo and such.
[04:27] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: but it was what happened to me...before I install the bunch o ubuntu updates the boot loader was working perfectly. after installing it trashed everything
[04:27] <sacarlson> LinuxFetus: oh those are the repositories that can be setup in synaptic
[04:27] <LinuxFetus> sacarlson: Right, this isn't in a repository.
[04:27] <McLinux> LinuxFetus; You'd do a "New Menu" for a new sub-folder or "New Item" for a new entry.  Sometimes if you compile/install a new app it is required if you want things to appear nice prim and proper.
[04:27] <tonius> hello! How turn off autostart transmission-daemon ?
[04:28] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: oh, so there were some updates that seemed to be related to the onset of the problem, eh?  interesting.
[04:28] <justin_> excuse me, what is the terminal command to edit the grub list, or take partitions out of the list that i dont use
[04:28] <muelli> tonius: execute gnome-session-properties. It's probably listed there.
[04:28] <sacarlson> LinuxFetus: you lost me.  what package are you tring to load?
[04:28] <McLinux> This is one instance where they need to borrow from Windows and make it a folder.
[04:28] <headkase314> LinuxFetus, you can add extra repositories with the "add-apt-repository <PPA>" command PPA's are Personal Package Archives.  They are used to get extra software.  Of course this does not apply to Helios you are installing right now.
[04:28] <abhijit> !grub2 | justin_
[04:28] <muelli> justin_: I'd use nano ;-)
[04:29] <McLinux> muelli: *cringe*horror* why not VI?
[04:29] <muelli> McLinux: because nano doesn't make as much music as vi ;-)
[04:29] <justin_> whats nano?
[04:29] <McLinux> Vi works, everywhere..
[04:29] <headkase314> tonius, also check: System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[04:29] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: yes. After reading this post I got to suspect that it happened *because* of the updates. I don't know what but one of them was something about grub...it asked me if I wanted to install or not, and said it was recommended to install and so on...I did it of course
[04:30] <nUboon2Age> justin_: nano is a simple easy to use editor.
[04:30] <McLinux> where Vi may abandon you, you must speak 'ed'.
[04:30] <tensorpudding> i think ee is nicer than nano
[04:30] <muelli> McLinux: heh. well. So does shooting your foot. HEnce that's not a valid argument if you have better things at hand :-)
[04:30] <LinuxFetus> sacarlson: headkase314: I already loaded the application (Eclipse Helios) and it's installed and everything... I don't think it's found in any repositories (this version of it -- they have the old version in the current repos).
[04:30] <tensorpudding> if you want easy
[04:30] <justin_> ok well where do i find the grub menu list
[04:30] <McLinux> Shooting your foot, using vi?
[04:30] <McLinux> You're kidding me, right, muelli?
[04:30] <abhijit> justin_, see the link given by ubottu
[04:30] <LinuxFetus> sacarlson: headkase314: I already loaded the application (Eclipse Helios) and it's installed and everything... I don't think it's found in any repositories (this version of it -- they have the old version in the current repos).
[04:30] <LinuxFetus> Sorry for the double post.
[04:30] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: hmmm... it should happen. grub shouldn't come into the picture at all, but somehow maybe it caused it. hmm....
[04:31] <mluser-laptop> Can someone recomend a good icon editor for gnome or kde (i've already tried kiconedit, but its too slow for me)
[04:31] <justin_> i did and i cant find the file
[04:31] <bikcmp> Hi everyone, how would I get rid of apt saying this message? I can't get it to remove or install this package. The following packages have unmet dependancies: gdk-imlib11: Depends: libungif4g (>= 4.1.3)
[04:31] <headkase314> LinuxFetus, yup it's not in the repositories - keep doing what your doing now: thats the right way!
[04:31] <justin_> is catfish an option?
[04:31] <sacarlson> LinuxFetus: so your good to go. if it's installed and runs what more do you need?
[04:31] <McLinux> gnome-iconedit ?
[04:32] <LinuxFetus> sacarlson: Well I wanted to add a launcher to my menu; I'd always let the package managers edit my menu bar at the top of my Ubuntu.
[04:33] <mluser-laptop> McLinux: what package does it come with?
[04:33] <sacarlson> LinuxFetus: oh ok well I just right click on the top panel and add it there if I run it alot but someone above showed you how to add it to application menu
[04:33] <tonymahoon> hey guys i've broken the permissions on folders in my home folder. how can i change the folder permissions but not the file permissions
[04:33] <LinuxFetus> sacarlson: Well I have a dock below -- but I'd like it there, too.
[04:34] <xissburg> nUboon2Age tensorpudding any ideas about how to use EasyBCD to try to recover the other OSes? I don't really know what to do because in the docs it only talks about vista
[04:34] <xissburg> I tried restoring the MBR for WinXp. didnt work
[04:34] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: it might be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/609815
[04:34] <sacarlson> LinuxFetus: just right click on applictions
[04:34] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: how did you break them?
[04:34] <tonius> muelli : it is not listed in gnome-session-properties,
[04:34] <somethinginteres> I am having trouble copying stuff to my new HDD  it seems to be a premission error. Says "I am not the owner so I can't change permissions" - help!
[04:35] <tonius> headkase314 : and in System > Preferences > Startup Applications is not listed too
[04:35] <LinuxFetus> sacarlson: Oh yeah -- some people already told me how (via GUI and CLI)
[04:35] <muelli> well tonius. It might be a service. Check /etc/init.d for a file name transmission or the like.
[04:35] <xissburg> wow nUboon2Age!! Exactly that!
[04:36] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: i could be wrong but i don't think you'd need to restore the mbr.  i think it might just be configuring the menu items.
[04:36] <YEW50>  
[04:36] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: i did a recursive chmod 775 on my home directory, which is fine for my files, but now the directory permissions are stuffed.
[04:36] <newbie> im back
[04:36] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: i would have guessed it's the other way around. now all files are executable.
[04:36] <sacarlson> LinuxFetus: yes just right click on the control panel over Applictions and edit menu
[04:37] <LinuxFetus> sacarlson: I got it, thanks :)
[04:37] <newbie> i installed activated driver but stillno go
[04:37] <abhijit> !details | newbie
[04:37] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: ok for the bug report could you please list the basics of your computer.  Which version of Windows 7, computer model, maker, speed, 64bit or 32 bit and which version of ubuntu (32 bit or 64bit)?
[04:37] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: ah ok, what should i change the file permissions to?
[04:37] <ColbyLudwig> So.
[04:37] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: hmm...anyway the Win 7 Rec disk did a nice job...well it was quite worth the trouble other wise I wouldn't have played so much with those crazy linux commands
[04:37] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: if you provide me that, i'll enter it into the bug report for you.
[04:38] <ColbyLudwig> Are there any drivers for an ATI Radeon X1270?
[04:38] <xissburg> nUboon2Age: you mean post it there?
[04:38] <abhijit> !ati | ColbyLudwig
[04:38] <xissburg> ok
[04:38] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: not necessarily here.  we could go to pm if you prefer.
[04:38] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: well, they all have the executable bit set now, but that might be desirable for *some* files. are you experiencing any problems?
[04:39] <newbie> i need help making nvidia driver work for NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M video chipset how do
[04:39] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: yeah putty isn't recognising my public key when i'm sshing in, which i presume is becuase it can't see the file.
[04:39] <ColbyLudwig> Last time I installed Ubuntu, graphics corruption occured during installation.
[04:39] <ColbyLudwig> It got reduced if I enabled "nomodeset" in GRUB,
[04:39] <nUboon2Age> xissburg: i opened a private chat w/ you...
[04:40] <ColbyLudwig> but it still happened.
[04:40] <sacarlson> newbie: so you tried System>Administration>hardware drivers ?
[04:40] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: ah, ~/.shh is special. try '' chmod 700 ~/.ssh ''
[04:40] <prince_jammys> *.ssh
[04:40] <newbie> ohh yes and also gone through countless threads but still cant do it
[04:41] <JoshDreamland> I want my IPAQ PDA to communicate with Ubuntu. Some guide says I need USBnet. Will I need to recompile the kernel for that?
[04:41] <xomp> hello, trying to install mybb locally but get the error "MyBB requires one or more suitable database extensions to be installed. Your server reported that none were available." anyone know what this means and how to fix?
[04:41] <newbie> i even tried going through  init 3 sudo sh nvidia-linux.run
[04:41] <xomp> I have LAMP installed and everything is up-to-date
[04:41] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: hmm it's still refusing the key
[04:42] <headkase314> newbie, have you gone to: System > Preferences > Appearance and under "Desktop Effects" tried to enable them?
[04:42] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: my id_rsa.pub in ~/.ssh has permissions 644, my ~/.ssh has 700.
[04:42] <sacarlson> newbie: then you must have gone to nvidia web site and tried there latist released linux drivers
[04:42] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: i'll give that a go
[04:43] <newbie> yes also tried latest nvidia website drivers
[04:43] <flames> have a backtrack channel?
[04:43] <rww> flames: #backtrack-linux
[04:43] <ColbyLudwig> xomp: do you have MySQL installed?
[04:43] <headkase314> newbie, installing the drivers from nvidia's website can cause issue when a kernel update comes around.  It is much better to stick with the "Hardware Drivers" drivers to avoid that issue.
[04:43] <flames> thank Rww
[04:44] <xomp> ColbyLudwig, yes, LAMP is installed.
[04:44] <ColbyLudwig> xomp: Odd.
[04:44] <newbie> extra effects wont load
[04:44] <xomp> ColbyLudwig, typical (everything doesn't work as it should) thing for me hah
[04:45] <ColbyLudwig> xomp: trust me.
[04:45] <ColbyLudwig> it happens to me all the time.
[04:45] <ColbyLudwig> like the past week trying to get OS X to run.
[04:45] <ColbyLudwig> and work with this graphics card.
[04:45] <newbie> i think there is already a confilct with kernel and driver that is recommended
[04:45] <ColbyLudwig> but no.
[04:45] <newbie> on 10.4  64 bit ubuntu ultimate
[04:45] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: gd it, still isn't working. god permissions will be the death of me.
[04:45] <muelli> Ubuntu Ultimate :D class...
[04:45] <xomp> ColbyLudwig, hackintosh?
[04:46] <bazhang> !ultimate > newbie
[04:46] <ColbyLudwig> Yes.
[04:46] <xomp> ColbyLudwig, give the folks in #snowleopard a try irc.osx86.hu :)
[04:47] <headkase314> newbie, refer to this thread -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608465 <- it will give you some things to try.
[04:47] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: have you tried a usual ''ssh user@host '' , without putty?
[04:49] <muelli> so.. nobody with a question or problem? :o0
[04:49] <muelli> :o)
[04:49] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: yeah i can log in with the password
[04:49] <ColbyLudwig> muelli: I do.
[04:50] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: have you added your key to ~/.authorized_keys at the remote machine?
[04:50] <muelli> ColbyLudwig: which is?
[04:50] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: if not, append the contents of your key file to ~/.authorized_keys at the remote box.
[04:51] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: yeah i had. it was working fine yesterday then it just stopped working. the only thing that changed was i was stuffing around with permissions trying to get samba to work properly.
[04:52] <Mistakes> is there an option for the make command to use gcc?
[04:52] <muelli> tonymahoon: use ssh-copy-id
[04:52] <muelli> Mistakes: yes.
[04:52] <muelli> Mistakes: set your env variable "CC" to "gcc".
[04:52] <ColbyLudwig> How can I fix SEVERE graphics corruption with an ATI Radeon X1270 (problem has been described in a lot of diff threads, ie http://is.gd/eicW4 and http://is.gd/eicXc)
[04:52] <ColbyLudwig> that was for muelli
[04:53] <muelli> uh ColbyLudwig. probably install the correct driver. If that doesn't work, fix the driver. If that doesn't work, buy a better supported card.
[04:53] <kadim> i need to boot a usb stick from a live cd. the usb stick has ubuntu fully installed but the pc wont use usb as a boot method. how can i do this?
[04:53] <ilovefairuz> som interesting usability tidbits http://nmarques.digitalwhores.net/2010/08/12/personal-notes-on-fedora-and-regular-pc-computing-users/
[04:53] <ilovefairuz> some &
[04:53] <muelli> ColbyLudwig: btw: I don't click those rickroll evil shortcut links.
[04:53] <Mistakes> kadim: set the usb first in the bios boot order
[04:54] <kadim> no option.
[04:54] <Mistakes> hmmm
[04:54] <ColbyLudwig> muelli: 1) I'm not putting any money in this stupid netbook. 2) It's the stock driver that I used.
[04:54] <ilovefairuz> oh sorry, wrong channel!
[04:54] <ColbyLudwig> 3) No rick roll.
[04:54] <Mistakes> if your bios doesn't support usb booting, then you're kinda SOL there
[04:55] <kadim> the drive will boot up my new pc not my older one
[04:55] <Mistakes> Kadim: if your bios doesn't support usb booting, then you're kinda SOL there
[04:55] <muelli> ColbyLudwig: apt-get source linux; apt-get build-dep linux ;-) Sorry mate. I can't help you with graphics stuff. I buy my hardware on purpose to embrace open sourcy companies like Intel.
[04:55] <kadim> cant i boot to  the live cd and chroot or something? i recall doing this long time ago
[04:55] <ColbyLudwig> muelli: its ok.
[04:55] <ColbyLudwig> thanks for your attempt tho!
[04:55] <ColbyLudwig> =)
[04:56] <xissburg> tensorpudding: THANKS A LOT 4 THE HELP
[04:56] <muelli> kadim: well. You might be able to give root=/dev/sdb1 or whatever your USB pendrive is for the kernel boot parameteres
[04:56] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: well, if my permissions are a "model", you could reproduce them with '' chmod 700 ~/.ssh; chmod 644 ~/.ssh/*; chmod 600 ~/.ssh/id_rsa ''
[04:57] <muelli> kadim: that'll still boot the initrd and the kernel off the CDROM but everything past that should be based on your pendrive.
[04:59] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: cheers, i think i might give up on it for the mean time. thanks for your help.
[05:00] <prince_jammys> welcome
[05:00] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: do you get an error message at all?
[05:00] <muelli> tonymahoon: well. debugging SSH messages can be done via /var/log/auth.log or the like.
[05:00] <muelli> tonymahoon: again, use ssh-copy-id
[05:00] <tonymahoon> muelli: ssh-copy-id?
[05:00] <prince_jammys> he thinks it's a client-side problem
[05:01] <jason> espn360 how do you run?
[05:01] <Matt1> Hey, I've got a problem with Ubuntu locking up a lot, anyone lend a hand?
[05:01] <muelli> well prince_jammys, tonymahoon. Client side is even easier to debug with ssh -v or -vv.
[05:01] <tonymahoon> ok here's what i got: authentication refused bad ownership or modes for directory /home/tom
[05:01] <muelli> there you go tonymahoon.
[05:01] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: ah.
[05:02] <Mistakes> so . . . in noob speak, how can i set gcc as my default compiler?
[05:02] <muelli> Mistakes: export CC=gcc
[05:02] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: so that means the permissions are wrong on my home foler right?
[05:02] <muelli> tonymahoon: nope. ownership
[05:02] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: show us the output of ''ls -ld ~''
[05:02] <muelli> tonymahoon: sudo chown $USER /home/tom
[05:02] <tonymahoon> drwxrwxr-x 50 tom tom 4096 2010-08-15 13:58 /home/tom
[05:02] <muelli> uh tonymahoon. apparently, permissions.
[05:03] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: remove group writability.
[05:03] <prince_jammys> try
[05:03] <muelli> anyway. good luck. I'm off.
[05:03] <tonymahoon> muelli: cheers mate
[05:03] <prince_jammys> chmod 755 ~  # NOT recursive!!
[05:03] <prince_jammys> tonymahoon: chmod 755 "$HOME"
[05:04] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: yay! we got it. thanks mate and to muelli too. good stuff.
[05:05] <prince_jammys> cool. ssh is picky about who has access to your keys
[05:05] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: with good reason i suppose. my lan is not exactly a high value target though :)
[05:06] <prince_jammys> ssh doesn't want any dir that's an ancestor of ~/.ssh to be group-writable, i think.
[05:07] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: yeah must be.
[05:08] <prince_jammys> all the way up to /home and /
[05:08] <tonymahoon> prince_jammys: well now i've got everything working samba included. it's a miracle.
[05:13] <ARGGG> im going to install 9.10 in hopes that it will be compatable with my ATI Radeon x1300 grapics card will i beable to install it on my slave drive?
[05:16] <LinuxFetus> ARGGG: Feel free to ignore if I jumped in on the conversation and my advice is rubbish, but you can install various OS's on different partitions....
[05:16] <LinuxFetus> ARGGG: There is no need to install one on a separate drive, unless you're trying to operate drives simultaneously for speed/performance.
[05:17] <LinuxFetus> Question:  I'
[05:17] <ARGGG> thank you
[05:18] <LinuxFetus> ARGGG: Chances are GParted isn't installed, but you cannot edit a partition that you're currently using.  So unless you can shrink a partition that isn't being used to run your current distro, then run Ubuntu Live to edit the partitions.  GParted is pretty straight-forward and simple to use.
[05:20] <LinuxFetus> Question:  I'm on Ubuntu 10.04.  At the top of my Desktop, I have the standard Gnome panel (Applications, Places, System, etc.).  I have several applications next to System, but they're all really close together.  Is there a way to change the minimum distance in pixels between the icons?  Sometime I click on the wrong application (I'm using a touchpad on a laptop... I don't like to use a USB mouse because it will detract from my USB
[05:20] <LinuxFetus>  bandiwidth.)
[05:20] <ratdog> yo
[05:21] <infid> i have 64bit ubuntu and hulu.com is saying hulu player doesn't work in 64-bit versions of flash, gotta be kidding me. Can i still have a 32-bit version of flash installed next to my 64bit version?
[05:21] <karpus> hi, my friend who's running windows, her OS was borked, and possibly one of her harddrives too (I don't know, haven't seen the HDD yet), the problem is that she's using a RAID0 config, meaning all the data is spread out over the two drives, would it be possible to boot from an ubuntu live cd and try to mount the hdd? I don't know much about raid0, and even less with linux
[05:21] <ARGGG> so with the live cd i can partition my slave drive on install and not lose any data that i may have saved : LinuxFetus
[05:22] <vivisecter> Hey could someone help me upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 without the use of internet and off a CD?
[05:22] <vivisecter> I've yet to find documentation on the forums.
[05:22] <LinuxFetus> ARGGG: GParted doesn't erase data unless you tell it to format your partition/drive.  You can resize the partition that's being used by your current distro and run another parallel... unless you want to use your other drive for some reason.
[05:23] <LinuxFetus> vivisecter: I assume that another media (i.e. USB) isn't available to you?
[05:23] <vivisecter> Unfortunately no it's my parents computer and it's only able to connect to wifi in 10.04 but it won't install 10.04 from the live CD but will install 8.04.
[05:24] <LinuxFetus> vivisecter: Have you tried http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[05:24] <LinuxFetus> It give instructions for a network upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04
[05:24] <vivisecter> See why couldn't I find that earlier I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
[05:24] <Jordan_U> vivisecter: Before you go that route, what happens when you try to install 10.04?
[05:25] <vivisecter> It hangs up usually at about 56% and will not go any further.
[05:25] <LinuxFetus> I used the query "upgrade ubuntu without cd" on Google and it was the first result.
[05:25] <vivisecter> Well I have the CD but no network access.
[05:25] <LinuxFetus> vivisecter: Perhaps there is another issue going on and a network upgrade wouldn't fix it.
[05:25] <LinuxFetus> Network access == WiFi, methinks.
[05:25] <vivisecter> You would be correct.
[05:26] <vivisecter> Like I said 10.04 works flawlessly with the WiFi 8.04 won't even try to connect.
[05:27] <LinuxFetus> vivisecter: Oh, so you're saying that when you run 10.04 live, you can connect to WiFi, but you can't install 10.04.  When you install 8.04, you can't connect to WiFi?
[05:27] <vivisecter> Yeah.
[05:27] <vivisecter> Sorry if I cobbled it earlier.
[05:27] <Jordan_U> vivisecter: What step does the installer say it's on when it freezes?
[05:27] <rww> vivisecter: upgrading 8.04 to 10.04 without Internet access? Try the alternate CD or ISO, per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades section "Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD"
[05:27] <vivisecter> Copying new files.
[05:28] <thune3> karpus: i'm running on a system that has a raid-1 fake/software raid setup which I don't use for ubuntu, i'm on 9.10 and the system sees it as two seperate drives. However, when I pop in 10.04 cd, it detects it as a raid-1 array and offers to mount it as such automatically (though I have never doen so).
[05:28] <Jordan_U> vivisecter: Try installing via the alternate install CD, if it fails you can also use it as an upgrade CD (but I really suggest trying to install via the alternate CD first).
[05:28] <JoshDreamland> I've taken several steps now to try to connect my PocketPC to Ubuntu. Why isn't Ubuntu acknowledging its existence in any way?
[05:28] <Jordan_U> vivisecter: You can't use the normal LiveCD as an upgrade CD.
[05:28] <JimBastard_> which is better out of the box for a high traffic web server? Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) or Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) ? sorry if that is a noob request, im a noob.
[05:29] <vivisecter> That could be where my problem was coming from.
[05:29] <RandomNerdKarel> I have been in and out of Linux the last few years, used to have favourite audio player but there seems to be a few other options these days. Any personal preferences out there?
[05:29] <rww> JimBastard_: 10.04. Using a non-LTS on a server and thus having to upgrade it every 6 months would be a pain.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> JimBastard_: Use 10.04, simply because it's LTS (and the latest release)
[05:29] <JimBastard_> what does TLS stand for?
[05:29] <rww> !lts
[05:29] <FalsAlarm> anyone ever hear of software that can recover data from a sata hdd that doesn't show up at POST?
[05:29] <JimBastard_> thanks
[05:30] <JimBastard_> you guys rock
[05:30] <rww> (compared to normal releases, which are 18 months)
[05:30] <vivisecter> Well the download is going to take about an hour and a half so when it's done I'll giver her a go and report back.
[05:30] <fredo> how to convert amd64 to i386??
[05:30] <abhijit> fredo, iso?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> FalsAlarm: If it doesn't show up in /dev when booted from linux then it's not likely that any *software* will help you.
[05:30] <fredo> packages
[05:30] <rww> fredo: reinstall. there isn't a supported method for changing an existing install from one to the other
[05:31] <abhijit> fredo, you can install 32bit software into 64 bit ubuntu
[05:31] <abhijit> FalsAlarm, testdisk?
[05:31] <karpus> thune3: ok, maybe I'll ask her to burn a live cd, it doesn't hurt to try since she basically tried everything, if that doesn't work, her choice is to send it to a data recovery company, the problem is that they charge between €30000 to €500000 lol
[05:32] <ubunt1> My notifications thing is showing two "broadcast account" items... Why?
[05:32] <prince_jammys> for half a mill euros, she better have great data.
[05:32] <fredo> i have many pack. of amd64  ,is their any way  to install them?
[05:32] <fredo> i m using ubuntu 9.10
[05:32] <karpus> prince_jammys: oops, got an extra zero, but yeah, it is WAY too pricey, ain't happening
[05:33] <thune3> karpus: i would recommend mounting read-only, but i'm not sure how to do that with places menu
[05:33] <ylmfos> ?
[05:33] <rww> ubottu: hi | ylmfos
[05:33] <Jordan_U> karpus: I'm sure you already know this, and have told your friend, but having critical data without a backup is careless. Having that data on RAID0 is asking for trouble.
[05:33] <karpus> she only stored documents and photos on it, so I can't seem to figure out why she stores important data to her on those drives... no backup either, but I guess she learned a lesson from this
[05:34] <karpus> Jordan_U: yeah, I said the same thing...
[05:34] <fredo> when i boot then memtest86 appears with operating system name .
[05:34] <fredo> how to remove this
[05:34] <karpus> thune3: I'll look into it
[05:35] <JoshDreamland> Okay, Multisync is useless
[05:35] <Jordan_U> fredo: sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ; sudo update-grub
[05:35] <JoshDreamland> is there a not-useless program to make Ubuntu talk to a PDA?
[05:35] <ARGGG> LinuxFetus: will i be able to choose what os i want to boot into upon start up?
[05:36] <vincleo>  :o
[05:36] <karpus> well, time for work soon so I'd better get ready, thanks for your opinions/comments
[05:36] <LinuxFetus> ARGGG: Yeah, Ubuntu will install a boot-loader called GNU GRUB.
[05:37] <tonsofpcs> i hope it isn't GNU GRUB
[05:37] <Fshy> Indeed.
[05:37] <fredo> how to convert synaptic packages in a repository???
[05:37] <LinuxFetus> oh wait.
[05:37] <LinuxFetus> Maybe it's just regular GRUB haha.
[05:37] <LinuxFetus> Yeah.
[05:37] <LinuxFetus> Sorry.
[05:37] <LinuxFetus> I'm tired.
[05:37] <Jordan_U> tonsofpcs: Why do you say that?
[05:37] <prince_jammys> fredo: explain what you mean.
[05:38] <Jordan_U> LinuxFetus: You were correct, GRUB is part of the GNU project, so GNU GRUB is appropriate.
[05:38] <ARGGG> LinuxFetus: thanks for the info time to try it out
[05:39] <fredo> softwares which we install by synaptic if i want to give these s/w to my friend then how should i make them a repositry???
[05:39] <Jordan_U> !offline | fredo
[05:39] <LinuxFetus> ARGGG: GRUB can be configured to have a background of your choosing, various resolutions (granted your GPU and monitor support said settings), you can re-arrange the menu items (generally an installation of a distro will add 4 items -- two kernel settings and two memtests) additionally it installs the most recent OS at the top, and you may wish to rearrange the order and change the delay (i.e. if nothing is selected in __ seconds, a
[05:39] <LinuxFetus> utomatically load ____ kernel).
[05:43] <thune3> JoshDreamland: i'm not expert, maybe the synce stuff or maybe not?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile
[05:43] <JoshDreamland> thune3: Thanks much, I'll look into it.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Just got a laptop with an eSATA port. I plugged in an external HD that has esata and USB conectors.. but esata dident seem to work with it. The HD dident even sound like it spun up. Is there somthing im missing here? it should be plug and play just like USB right?
[05:47] <Aemaeth> haha, i'm surfing from my phone
[05:47] <Slart> Dr_Willis: not sure about power supply.. but yes.. otherwise my eSATA drive functions the same as an USB drive
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Slart:  yea. ive never tried esata befor. So its possible this usb enclosure may not  work right. I got some time back and just reliozed today it was eSATA :0
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> I finally have a use for these cables i dident know what it was for. :) This laptop also has a weird 'port' its a USB and eSata in one.. It may be theres some way to toggle it to be one or the other. (checking the manuals Now)
[05:50] <KE1HA> Dr_Willis, Im trying to find the page, it's on the 2.6 kernel page somewhere, but not all the eSATA controllers are support yet from what I recall reading.
[05:50] <Slart> Dr_Willis: just fired up my first eSATA drive which I got a month ago or so.. lets see if it shows up
[05:50] <thune3> Dr_Willis: This guy said he had to enable ahci in bios: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1528398
[05:51] <Slart> Dr_Willis: yes, it shows up in nautilus.. if it makes any difference I'm running with ahci enabled in my BIOS
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> thune3:  ok.. - im reorganising some stuff and will try that. In 'theory' an external eSata should be as fast as an internal hd right?
[05:51] <mv2112mv-2> 0_o
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> will check ahci here in a min.  I was wantiong to move my old laptops linux install via esata to the new box and just boot from the exteranl hd. :)
[05:52] <mv2112mv-2> 0_o
[05:52] <mv2112mv-2> exit mv2112
[05:53] <thune3> Dr_Willis: should be same as sata 1.5 if i understand it
[05:54] <xieqing> =.=!
[05:54] <Esat> hi, is there any wiki channel for Ubuntu
[05:55] <Slart> thune3: wikipedia claims that eSATA is the same as SATA 300
[05:55] <fancybit_> id
[05:55]  * fancybit_ 发飙
[05:57] <unr3a1> was curious, I do not use the envelope next to the volume control.  Is there anyway to remove just the envelope and leave the volume?
[05:57] <tpmccallum_> What is the best game available via apt-get for my 7 year old son?
[05:57] <maco> !cn | fancybit
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> tpmccallum_:  depends on what they like. Ive seen several 'games for linux' articals over the past few weeks,.
[05:57] <thune3> Slart: indeed, thx. I saw "Some single disks can transfer 157 MB/s during real use" and made a calculation that misled me.
[05:57] <Slart> thune3: although that is only present in the swedish wikipedia.. not the english.. perhaps it shouldn't be trusted fully.. we swedes are weird
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> tpmccallum_:  frozenbubble is a must get :)
[05:58] <maco> unr3a1: you dont use empathy, pidgin, evolution, or gwibber?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> tpmccallum_:  and xmoto, bloboats,
[05:58] <xangua> if ou want get people's  opinion tryy #ubuntu-offtopic tpmccallum_
[05:58] <xangua> you*
[05:58] <tpmccallum_> ok thanks all
[05:58] <rww> ubottu: games
[05:58] <unr3a1> nope
[05:59] <unr3a1> maco, nope
[06:00] <Slart> thune3: ah.. nevermind that.. there is a nice table with SATA comparisons.. it seems to be the same as SATA 300.. I think I need some coffee now before I get even more confused
[06:03] <unr3a1> maco, so do you know how I can remove the envelope?
[06:04] <maco> unr3a1: no. i think its built into the whole notification system
[06:05] <unr3a1> maco, ok.  thanks
[06:06] <lonejack> Hi, I'm using Lucid version, does anybody know where are stored repositories? I knew that the list was stored in etc/apt/sources.list. Do you know if exist another?
[06:07] <xangua> what exactly do you want to do lonejack¿
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> lonejack:  in that directory theres that file and the sources.list.d
[06:07] <MitigationElf> I am brand-spankin-new to Ubuntu. I istalled it today on my HP Touchsmart iQ775. After installation was complete, the monitor  is very difficult to read - though I can make most things out - barely. If the os were Windows, I would say it was a resolution or driver proble. I was able to find the resolution settings and that did nothing to positively affect the display. I was also able to make out where/how to connect to the intern
[06:07] <lonejack> Dr_Willis, yesss, now I see
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> lonejack:  the habbit of altering sources.list is a little outdated.. normally one makes entries one per file in  sources.list.d now
[06:08] <lonejack> Dr_Willis, thank you
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> lonejack:  makes it  a MUCh cleaner setup.
[06:08] <lonejack> I think so
[06:08] <thune3> Slart: yeah, i also didn't look all the way down to the table the first time
[06:11] <unr3a1> maco, just wanted to give you heads up, took a shot and googled it.
[06:11] <unr3a1> maco, http://whileitcompiles.com/ubuntu/how-to-remove-envelope-from-indicator-applet/
[06:12] <maco> unr3a1: alright thnks. ill bookmark
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> I finaly found a applet thing that puts gmail in the Envelope menus :)
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> or whatever you call that stuff these days...
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> http://ahadiel.org/projects/gmail-notifier
[06:13] <budweiser> Hello I have a problem with Flash in Ubuntu, I'm using Gnome and many times when I am watching a fullscreen video in Flash I can't exit fullscreen mode
[06:13] <budweiser> I have to shutdown my computer and restart
[06:13] <xangua> budweiser: have you just tried the Esc key¿
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Thats weird.. niormally with flash fullscreen.. if i so much as sneeze at it.. it unfullscreens
[06:13] <budweiser> Yes
[06:13] <JoshDreamland> Each time I run synce-pls, I get "** Message: Hal reports no devices connected"
[06:14] <JoshDreamland> The device is definitely connected.
[06:14] <budweiser> Nothing responds
[06:14] <budweiser> Can't get to the desktop or anything, it flickers some
[06:15] <goten> can anyone suggest me irc channel for open-java
[06:16] <punkmexic> hi my gpodder cant download youtube videos anyone can help im using version 2.7
[06:16] <Slart> budweiser: sounds like full screen flash alright.. the full adobe experience =)
[06:16] <budweiser> Maybe an alternative would work better
[06:17] <Slart> budweiser: I get almost the same problems.. I don't have to restart but I have to struggle to un-fullscreen it
[06:19] <fox> Hi, guys, why everytime I use gvim to write something, it can't be saved!
[06:20] <fox> it says "can't open file for writting
[06:20] <fox> thanks
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> fox:   een to your home dir? or are you spefifically editing a file somewhere else?
[06:21] <goten> #help
[06:21] <budweiser> has anyone here tried lightspark
[06:21] <budweiser> Slart, how do you exit it
[06:21] <fox> in a sub directory of my home
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> fox:  how about in just youir home dir?
[06:22] <Slart> budweiser: I think I just press esc.. not entirely sure though.. I try to avoid full screen
[06:23] <fox> in my home dir, it'ok
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> fox:  check ownership and permissions on the subdir,.
[06:24] <xangua> budweiser: you mean that flash plugin¿ i don't
[06:24] <budweiser> yes
[06:24] <fox> thanks. I checked, the owner is root
[06:25] <fox> so how can I change that to my owner(fox)?
[06:25] <glick> excuse me, is it difficult to upgrade from django 1.1.1 to 1.2? 1.2 isnt in the repos yet so ill have to do it by hand
[06:26] <fox> Dr_Willis: thanks a lot!
[06:26] <maco> glick: 1.2 is in 10.10's repositories. you could download the source package and rebuild it for 10.04
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> fox:  sudo chown username:username  directory
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> fox:  is the dir empty?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | fox
[06:27] <glick> maco, where do i download the source package?for 10.10
[06:27] <maco> glick: i wouldnt just use the binary package directly since i think they use different python versions
[06:28] <fox> the dir is not empty
[06:28] <budweiser> is gnash any good
[06:28] <maco> glick: dget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-django/python-django_1.2.1-1.dsc
[06:28] <fox> ubottu: I will read that source. Thanks!
[06:28] <maco> glick: itll download 3 files. unpack with:   dpkg-source -x python-django_1.2.1-1.dsc
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> budweiser:  from what i hear.. not really
[06:29] <xangua> budweiser: if you wnat to play all flash content in web use adobe's plugin
[06:29] <Guest58233> pc_68_194.smrw.lodz.pl
[06:29] <Guest58233> 99-197-135-161.cust.wildblue.net
[06:29] <Guest58233> 12.109.229.75
[06:29] <Guest58233> 12.109.229.87
[06:29] <Guest58233> 	
[06:29] <FloodBot3> Guest58233: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:29] <Guest58233> 91.201.66.31
[06:29] <maco> glick: install build dependencies "sudo apt-get build-dep python-django" and then cd into the directory that unpacking it created, and run "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us"
[06:30] <maco> glick: actually.... dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -us
[06:30] <maco> glick: itll create a deb for 10.04 for you
[06:31] <clincher> cheese detects my laptop's built in webcam but I cant get it to work on aMsn or any other app. I have an HP dv4-2013. Can anyone help me?
[06:37] <c|oneman> is there a path character limit in linux that should worry about? I'm making lots of folder depth on my webspace to classify things better]
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I think theres a limit c|oneman  but  not sure how big it is...
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> it may be im thinking of the bash 'command line legenth' limit also.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> c|oneman:  dont forget 'soft links' also - for organizing things
[06:40] <c|oneman> are those like, those fodlers with the shortcut icon when I use winscp to my iphone?
[06:40] <sheenobu> hey what's that window manager tool that lets you specify windows to skip in window list?
[06:40] <sheenobu> also lets you undecorate windows
[06:40] <glick> maco, where did it download it to
[06:41] <glick> when i run dpkg-source -x i get no such file or directory
[06:41] <maco> glick: current directory
[06:41] <maco> glick: type "ls" and it shouldve downloaded 3 files that say python-django...  one is .orig.tar.gz, one .dsc, and one .debian.tar.gz or .diff.tar.gz
[06:42] <sheenobu> it's not a window manager but a window manager tool
[06:42] <glick> a yes, had to get dget first
[06:42] <glick> maco, two files
[06:43] <sheenobu> ooo devilspie
[06:46] <maco> glick: which 2?
[06:46] <glick> ls
[06:47] <glick> maco, a .orig.tar.gz and .debian.tar.gz
[06:47] <glick> python-django_1.2.1-1
[06:47] <maco> glick:  no .dsc though?
[06:47] <glick> no
[06:47] <maco> glick: weird weird, well wget that one then
[06:47] <glick> it built a deb
[06:48] <glick> two debs
[06:48] <glick> a doc
[06:48] <maco> what?
[06:48] <glick> and the regular one
[06:48] <FloodBot3> glick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:48] <maco> its not supposed to build til you run dpkg-buildpackage -b
[06:48] <glick> i did run that maco
[06:48] <maco> glick: im confused about what order you did things then
[06:49] <glick> the order you mentioned
[06:49] <maco> glick: ok, install the debs and you have 1.2 i think
[06:49] <glick> maco, just upgrade or install?
[06:49] <maco> glick: install. dpkg doesnt differentiate like rpm does
[06:51] <glick> hmm lets see if it works :)
[06:51] <glick> sweeet
[06:53] <glick> thanks maco seems to work
[06:53] <lonejack> Hi, I've to install the eclipsePDT(all in one) pakage. Which is the best directory where to place it?
[06:53] <maco> glick: yay
[06:54] <Andre305> Hello everyone
[06:54] <ThisDB> Hi And
[06:54] <ThisDB> Andre#)%
[06:55] <ThisDB> I can't type -,-
[06:55] <ssfdre38> how can i connect my server to my computer?
[06:55] <ThisDB> ssfdre38: filesharing?
[06:55] <ssfdre38> im trying to config my server for dns
[06:56] <ThisDB> Oh can't help you there
[06:57] <ssfdre38> yea im trying to make an irc server
[06:57] <AviMarcus> I changed my montior settings, and now the top panel is a blur and I can't see it. Everything else is working perfectly. Is there a way I can restart that w/o restarting the whole computer?
[06:58] <xangua> AviMarcus: restart what¿ your panel¿
[06:58] <Andre305> Help ---> I am using an eee pc 1005peb with the latest netbook remix. Like a total noob i installed gma500 chipset firmwares thinking it would improve my graphics (probably not needed). It downgraded all of my graphics and upon reboot I had to run it in low graphics mode. I tried to uninstall all the poulsbo packets in synaptic package manager but my graphics are still on low. Is there any way I can go back to my previous settings (def
[06:58] <AviMarcus> yes xangua, i can't see anything on it.
[06:58] <goten> how to deploy a tomcat project on console version
[06:59] <holocene> for program simple backup suite, it says restored files/dirs are owned by root. If backing up /home with many users, is it very practical to change ownership back to the users?
[07:00] <Andre305> anyone?
[07:01] <ssfdre38> does anyone know how to config the ubuntu DNS?
[07:01] <ssfdre38> if you do please pm me?
[07:02] <joschi> ssfdre38: "the ubuntu DNS" is what exactly? your resolver configuration? your own authoritative or caching name server? any specific software package?
[07:02] <Andre305> anyone know how to uninstall installed packets and restore previous settings? pm me
[07:03] <AviMarcus> I did killall gnome-panel but that didn't help. So I disabled the main screen, then re-enabled it and it's fine now.
[07:03] <AviMarcus> Maybe I needed both. Anyway.
[07:03] <ssfdre38> joschi: Im trying to make a irc server and i know i need the dns on ubuntu but i was wondering how can i config it
[07:03] <abhijit> Andre305, which packets/
[07:03] <joschi> Andre305: `sudo aptitude purge [packages]` will remove the packages and all of their configuration
[07:04] <joschi> Andre305: when you reinstall the packages, the stock configuration will be used
[07:04] <joschi> ssfdre38: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns.html
[07:05] <ssfdre38> do i need to connect it to my ubuntu computer?
[07:05] <peepingtom> I changed resolution using the gnome settings and it runs an xrandr command each time I log in. Could someone please tell me what folder those settings are stored in?
[07:06] <Andre305> joschi: I don't know how to reinstall my stock configs
[07:07] <Juniksz> Hello, is there any software which can reach my Nokia 6300 phone datas, eg. sms, dates, etc
[07:07] <sinurge> what is the reason that apt-get upgrade will tell that packages have been left back
[07:08] <peepingtom> sinurge: it's normally because you have a package conflict, lack a dependency, or have a package forced to a specific version
[07:08] <haro> hi , I've just bought a Genius "easypen" device. Is there something easy I can follow in order to get it working under an originally ubunti 9.10, that has been updated regularly ?
[07:09] <Andre305> joschi: i uninstalled what i thought were the packets in synaptic but they have not corrected themselves
[07:09] <peepingtom> Juniksz: gnokii
[07:10] <Andre305> how do i restore default graphic properties to my netbook? I installed the wrong drivers
[07:10] <peepingtom> Andre305: PURGE to delete settings, not uninstall
[07:10] <Juniksz> peepingtom, thanks, i'll search it
[07:11] <Andre305> peepingtom: how do i purge?
[07:11] <Andre305> I already uninstalled... is that a problem?
[07:13] <peepingtom> Andre305: In Synaptic click [status]  then [Not installed, residual config]. Right-click the package and purge
[07:14] <peepingtom> Andre305: actually not purge, "complete removal
[07:15] <punkmexic> hi my gpodder cant download youtube videos anyone can help im using version 2.7
[07:15] <mute> Hey.  Help me out with something?  I have a directory of mixed case files names all of which need a batch renaming to the same names, but only lowercased.  Point me in the right direction?
[07:15] <wulfman> g whater?
[07:16] <Andre305> peepingtom: it's not in there. maybe this will help. i installed it through terminal.
[07:17] <Andre305> i'll be back
[07:17] <peepingtom> Andre305: sudo apt-get purge **nameofpackage** . I dont even know what your problem is specifically, that's just how you wipe out system-wide settings. it does not wipe out settings in your home folder.
[07:17] <wulfman> punkmexic>>  i use download Youtube+ 2.2 plugin for firefox, it works. not sure what gpodder is
[07:18] <punkmexic> gpodder downloads podcasts (videos or audios of blogs)
[07:18] <punkmexic> for firefox i use videodownloader
[07:19] <wulfman> punkmexic>>  oh, sorry never used it
[07:20] <joschi> mute: `for i in *; do declare -l NAME="$i"; echo mv "$i" "$NAME"; done`
[07:20] <Andre305> peepingtom: this is the name of the packet "sudo apt-get install poulsbo-driver-2d poulsbo-driver-3d poulsbo-config" and when i do the terminal purge it give me this.. E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:20] <Andre305> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:20] <Andre305> andre@andre-laptop:~$
[07:20] <rww> mute: rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' *
[07:21] <IdleOne> Andre305: close synaptic and run the command again in terminal
[07:21] <wulfman> Andre305>>  you got two package tools open at same time
[07:23] <Andre305> brilliant one idileone
[07:23] <Andre305> apparently i did purge it from synaptic
[07:23] <Andre305> i also get this message
[07:24] <Andre305> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[07:24] <Andre305>   libtool autotools-dev libva1 libltdl-dev
[07:24] <Andre305> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[07:25] <IdleOne> Andre305: read the message it gives you the answer :)
[07:25] <Andre305> how do i write that in terminal?
[07:25] <mute> rww: That sounds really simple.  I'll try it.
[07:25] <Andre305> apt-get autoremove libtool autotools-dev libva1 libltdl-dev
[07:25] <IdleOne> Andre305: apt-get autoremove   don't put the ' '
[07:25] <mute> rww: -n will do a test mode, right?
[07:25] <Andre305> '?
[07:26] <rww> mute: correct
[07:26] <IdleOne> Andre305: you may need to add sudo if it gives you a permission denied
[07:26] <rww> mute: I literally copypasted that from the manpage, though, so it should work :)
[07:27] <Andre305> btilliant.... i need to reboot to see if they take effect. stay tuned!
[07:27] <wulfman> Andre305>>  i think just sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:28] <mute> rww: Thank you.
[07:29] <Genlan> wiibuntu
[07:30] <Andre305> no good guys
[07:30] <Andre305> i get a message when it starts up of cannot detect pbe and mentions no drivers installed
[07:30] <Andre305> how do i reset it back to the default drivers?
[07:31] <Andre305> i think it was a firmware upgrade... is there any way i can get ubuntu to reinstall its original graphic drivers?
[07:32] <IdleOne> what is pbe?
[07:33] <Andre305> no idea
[07:33] <Andre305> maybe it was pba
[07:33] <Andre305> in either case its looking for the graphic drivers and arent finding them
[07:33] <rww> psb?
[07:34] <Andre305> psb... that sounds right
[07:34] <Andre305> <--- bad memory
[07:34] <rww> that would be the Poulsbo Xorg driver ;)
[07:35] <Andre305> yeah... thats the one that started my whole mess'
[07:35] <nIRV> quick question: how to I make it so that a task started by init.d runs on a user I specify (versus root) ?
[07:36] <IdleOne> so right now xorg is looking for poulsbo
[07:36] <Andre305> i read on a forum that installing some graphic drivers for my 1005peb would be a good thing. it wasn't. so I'm trying to get them back to default. I dont know what that would be
[07:37] <IdleOne> rww: would a mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf .bak  help him out?
[07:37] <Andre305> i uninstalled all of poulsbo cause it made my graphics run on low as soon as i updated it through terminal
[07:37] <rww> IdleOne: no idea, literally the only thing I know about the Poulsbo driver is that I don't want to know anything about the Poulsbo driver lest I be driven insane in the process
[07:37] <IdleOne> haha
[07:37] <Andre305> :-!
[07:37] <IdleOne> rww: it couldn't hurt anything right?
[07:38] <rww> IdleOne: indeed. it's probably what I'd try first
[07:38] <IdleOne> Andre305: ok run sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf .bak
[07:38] <rww> I assume you removed the Poulsbo packages at some point
[07:38] <Andre305> indeed
[07:38] <dismal_denizen> Does anyone have the drivers for TuxDroid?
[07:38] <IdleOne> Andre305: then restart your X by holding alt-sysrq-k keys
[07:39] <IdleOne> Andre305: ok run sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  <<< this one (there is an extra space in the first one I gave you)
[07:40] <IdleOne> Andre305: when you run the above command you wont see any output
[07:40] <Andre305> yep... no output. done
[07:41] <IdleOne> ok now alt-sysrq-k
[07:41] <Alives> anyone using ubuntu as an AP with WPA encryption?
[07:41] <Alives> i cant figure out how to get wlan0 to come up
[07:41] <Alives> i keep getting messages saying "dont seem to have all the variables for wlan0/inet"
[07:41] <IdleOne> see you soon andre
[07:41] <maco> Alives: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:41] <Alives> yeah
[07:41] <Alives> sudo ifup wlan0
[07:41] <AvonGenesis> Whats the alternative way to edit keyboard shortcuts through terminal?
[07:41] <Alives> gives that error
[07:41] <rww> Alives: that's a different command from maco's ;)
[07:42] <maco> Alives: ifup and ifconfig ... up are two different things
[07:42] <Alives> maco: im having trouble finding a good guide on this...
[07:42] <Alives> ok ill try ifconfig
[07:42] <maco> Alives: ifup uses the configuration in /etc/network/interfaces if you have it created
[07:42] <Andre305> nothing!
[07:42] <maco> Alives: if you havent configured it in there... error
[07:42] <IdleOne> Andre305: nothing!  ? good or bad nothing?
[07:42] <maco> Alives: if you want to use ifup and the interfaces file, see:  man 5 interfaces
[07:42] <Andre305> still in low graphics mode
[07:42] <rww> although it sounds like it's partially configured, since no configuration is a different error :\
[07:43] <Alives> rww: yes, i have been pulling config directives from guides i have found online
[07:43] <IdleOne> Andre305: lspci | grep VGA
[07:43] <IdleOne> what's that give you?
[07:43] <Alives> rww: it seems to be an issue with how wpa_supplicant comes into the picture
[07:43] <Andre305> i did the command. it took me to a re-loging page. and the back to low graphics
[07:43] <Andre305> whats what give me?
[07:44] <maco> Alives: wpa-ssid  linksys
[07:44] <IdleOne> Andre305: run lspci | grep VGA
[07:44] <rww> Alives: yeah, wpa_supplicant is a pain. I can do WEP in interfaces, but WPA eludes me.
[07:44] <maco> Alives: wpa-psk Your password goes here
[07:44] <maco> Alives: thats all you need to make ifup/interfaces work for wpa, IME
[07:44] <Alives> maco: you mean: wpa_supplicant <ssid> <password" >
[07:44] <Alives> bah
[07:44] <NightKhaos> Wireless was actually surprisingly easy on my machine, even UniWide (for UNSW) that has a authication based network instead of a PSK. :)
[07:44] <maco> Alives: no i do not
[07:44] <Alives> ok
[07:45] <Andre305> Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[07:45]  * Alives looks up wpa-psk prog
[07:45] <IdleOne> hmm that should be well supported
[07:45] <maco> Alives: wpa supplicant can work inside the /etc/network/interfaces file
[07:45] <maco> Alives: thats what i find easiest. i store all my ssid/psk pairs in that file and uncomment whichever im going to use at the time
[07:45] <Andre305> it is... like i said.. i was a noob and messed with it
[07:45] <Alives> wpa-psk is not a valid program according to aptitude and dpkg --list
[07:45] <maco> Alives: so, you edit interfaces file, and put:  iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[07:45] <IdleOne> Andre305: How old is this Ubuntu install?
[07:46] <Alives> NightKhaos: im trying to setup an AP, not a client
[07:46] <Andre305> 3 days old
[07:46] <maco> Alives: under that, put:  wpa-ssid <ssid>
[07:46] <maco> Alives: i did not say wpa-psk was a program
[07:46] <IdleOne> Andre305: reinstall :) I know it's a real dirty fix but will get you back to default everything
[07:46] <maco> Alives: it is a configuration item inside /etc/network/interfaces
[07:46] <Alives> ahh
[07:46] <Alives> ok cool
[07:46] <maco> Alives: under that:  wpa-psk <password>
[07:46] <Alives> let me change that then
[07:46] <Andre305> i know... but what a pain... then i have to install everything all over again... ugh!
[07:47] <IdleOne> Andre305: wait
[07:47] <Andre305> ...
[07:47] <IdleOne> !clone > Andre305
[07:47] <IdleOne> you get that message?
[07:47] <maco> Alives: you just need a stanza in /etc/network/interfaces like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/478248/ then run "sudo ifup wlan0"
[07:48] <Andre305> yeah... im decyphering it
[07:48] <maco> Alives: if you want to change APs, comment out your lines, add some new ones (my preferred way so i dont have to remember them) and then "sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0"
[07:48] <maco> Alives: ifup will automatically handle sending the key and dhcp
[07:48] <IdleOne> Andre305: that command will create a file called my-packages, it's a simple text file which will list everything you have installed at this point in time
[07:49] <Alives> maco: yeah, but i am trying to make an AP
[07:50] <Alives> will this work for that?
[07:50] <maco> oh... :-/  hrmph
[07:50] <Alives> i already have this routing and tcp fwding on eth
[07:50] <Alives> trying to add wlan0 into the mix
[07:50] <Alives> once i get connection with wpa on wlan0, i will bridge eth0 and wlan0
[07:50] <maco> Alives: sorry, i thought you were just trying to sort out how to use wpa with ifup :-/
[07:50] <Alives> to avoid complex iptables rules
[07:51] <Alives> maco: no :), but i really appreciate your thouroughness
[07:51] <Alives> maco: any ideas on how to make it into an AP?
[07:51] <maco> Alives: no, sorry
[07:51] <Alives> cool thanks
[07:51] <IdleOne> Andre305: sorry I can't help more then that
[07:51] <Andre305> its cool...
[07:52] <Andre305> can i pm you real quick to verify what you sent me... im still unsure about it
[07:52] <IdleOne> Andre305: or hang around here and ask every now and then and someone might be able to help out
[07:52] <IdleOne> sure
[07:54] <deoxxa> why is the keyboard/mouse so slow under ubuntu 10.04 on the macbook 2.1?
[07:55] <deoxxa> by slow i mean unresponsive, as if there's a buffer somewhere that's being read at excruciatingly long intervals
[07:56] <airtonix> percentage of mac users : [--------5%--------], percentage of mac users here using ubuntu [--0.005%--], chance of someone who cares enough to give an answer : ---
[07:56] <gean> Hello Brothers!
[07:56] <shuduo> anyone know why i got "dpkg-gencontrol: error: package ... not in control info" msg on compiling kernel under ubuntt?
[07:57] <airtonix> deoxxa, you're better off asking this kind of question on the forums
[07:57] <deoxxa> airtonix, i see
[07:58] <airtonix> deoxxa, since there is a macosx section i believe.
[07:59] <hipitihop> when building from source, is the ubuntu way to ./configure, make and make install from some home dir or should git source be moved to /usr/src ?
[07:59] <well_laid_lawn> !checkinstall | hipitihop
[08:01] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, thanks will go and read, is that the recommended way regardless of what I'm building from source ? e.g. I'm want to build FreeSwitch after doing a git clone of source to a subdir off my home
[08:02] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: I use 'cause it lets me uninstall apps I make easily
[08:04] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: in ./configure -help it will tell you the path the app will install to - normally /usr/local - and in the configure options is where you set the install path
[08:04] <well_laid_lawn>  -prefix=/usr as an example
[08:06] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, so far not done much from source, so sorry if I'm asking basic questions. Are you saying I need to edit original ./configure downloaded with source ?
[08:08] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: no - there are options you can add to ./configure like   ./configure -prefix=/usr   - ./configure -help will tell what's available as options
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> Wow. I was asking about eSATA earlier on my new laptop.. going to boot ubuntu from the esata port.. then i relized this laptop had a second empty hard drive slot... :) Joy.
[08:10] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, I see, so why wuold I want to specify where to install, e.g. if I use normal apt-get install somepkg, where does that normally get installed to ?
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> Just curious if anyone has used esata as a boot disk befor with ubuntu or linux?
[08:10] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: normally /usr/bin for user apps
[08:10] <koosha> hii. is there any gnome software to get google reader feeds?
[08:11] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: /usr/local might not be in your $PATH
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> koosha:  i think theres some google applets (gadgets?) that can do that. Not sure about other ways
[08:11] <koosha> ok thank you
[08:12] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, hmm, so if I'm trying to make something like FreeSwitch on a mythbuntu where my userid is the auto logged in user, then I shoul dbe ok with default location ?
[08:13] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: yep should be - in terminal type   $PATH   to check
[08:13] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[08:14] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: looks fine :]
[08:15] <bryanwithy> why can I not join most of the channels on freenode?
[08:15] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: I make my apps in my home dir then install the deb
[08:15] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, thanks for the checkinstall tip, but I don't think you answered the initial question which is if I did a git clone to a subdir of my home, should I move the source to /usr/src before make etc
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> bryanwithy:  many required a 'registered' nick name
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> !register > bryanwithy
[08:17] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: sorry - I make everything in my home dir - never use /usr/src
[08:17] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, cool thanks
[08:17] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[08:18] <Aemaeth> oh wow, fspot didn't crash at 10,000 this time
[08:19] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, final question, I hope, when given steps like ,configure, make and make install, do I need sudo in those steps or after I have package ready
[08:19] <maco> hipitihop: only make install needs sudo, and only if you didnt add --prefix=$HOME/local to your ./configure
[08:20] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: if it involves install you need sudo - no sudo needed for configure or make
[08:20] <maco> hipitihop: thats because make install does the actual installation wherever the prefix is set to, and the default prefix is /usr/local/
[08:21] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, ok and 'make install' is still relevant even though checkinstall builds package ? (guess I should read the docs now, bugged you enough ;-)
[08:21] <RookieStar> hi, ppl
[08:21] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: instead of make install do   sudo checkinstall
[08:21] <RookieStar> now i got a big problem
[08:22] <RookieStar> i installed ubuntu 10.04, but cant get into desktop
[08:22] <RookieStar> only something like tty1 the command lines
[08:22] <jola> #userlist
[08:22] <RookieStar> what can i do?
[08:22] <RookieStar> pls help, thanks
[08:23] <RookieStar> i tried some setting in BIOS like turn on/off APIC/VIRUS, but no help
[08:23] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, indeed ... unfortunately failing in first step 'auto-apt run .configure' getting "E: Exec .configure failed, auto-apt failed"
[08:24] <RookieStar> i googled and did some typing like startx or something, but no help 2
[08:24] <RookieStar> :(
[08:25] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: not knowing the app all I can suggest is to make sure you are in the right dir
[08:25] <RookieStar> what's wrong with the pc
[08:25] <RookieStar> com'on, folks, would u pls help me?
[08:26] <Suit_Of_Sables> hmm is there a way to manualy edit the colors gtk in xfce rather than just downloading and installing themes? I could do it in gnome. sorry  the xfce channel has been dead for hours
[08:26] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, I did 'git clone git://git.freeswitch.org/freeswitch.git' while in ~/git-source
[08:26] <well_laid_lawn> RookieStar: log into the tty and do   cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i ee   and see what is the issue
[08:27] <RookieStar> thanks, i will do that, a sec
[08:28] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: you'll have to check with the apps website for a faq or readme
[08:29] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, so while in ~/git-source/freeswitch I did 'auto-apt run ./configure' ... http://www.voipkb.com/wiki/index.php/Install:Linux#Ubuntu
[08:29] <RookieStar> <well_laid_lawn: no such file or directory
[08:31] <well_laid_lawn> RookieStar: which ubuntu are you using/
[08:32] <well_laid_lawn> ?*
 10.04
[08:32] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, any chance using auto-apt in a ssh session is causing a problem ?
[08:32] <RookieStar> newly install
[08:32] <RookieStar> installed from hard disk
[08:33] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: you need to be one dir lower - cd freeswitch-1.0.6
[08:34] <bihari>    /ns id 460021
[08:35] <well_laid_lawn> RookieStar: try   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, no such dir in teh git version .. subdirs are 'build, cmake_modules, conf, debian, src, etc
[08:36] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: try   find ./ -name configure
i tried, but it cant find the file, should i get the internet connected first?
[08:36] <dhiraj> i want my gnome desktop to automatically align the icons, is this possible..?
[08:36] <well_laid_lawn> RookieStar: yep :]
[08:37] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, ./src/mod/endpoints/mod_gsmopen/gsmlib/gsmlib-1.10-patched-12ubuntu1/configure
[08:37] <hipitihop> ./libs/portaudio/bindings/cpp/build/gnu/configure
[08:37] <hipitihop> ./libs/yaml/configure
[08:37] <alabd> Good day all , what was the name of that software that could possible to schedule relaxation times when we are working with PC
 so? :(
[08:39] <rww> alabd: there's a setting that'll do it in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (I think; I'm not in GNOME right now). There's also the 'workrave' package, which does a similar thing.
oh! i c, internet, ok
[08:40] <dhiraj> anyone there to help me out..?
[08:41] <alabd> rww, thanks
[08:41] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop:  the ./ part of ./configure means the current dir so there needs to be a configure file in the current dir
[08:42] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, there is a configure.in at the top level which has #                                               -*- Autoconf -*- # Process this file with autoconf to produce a configure script.
i've got the internet on, and tried again "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", but it still cant find the package
[08:44] <rww> sudo apt-get update
[08:44] <dov> @dhiraj:  it looks like gnome can't do it yet, but kde can.  Check this out:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49941&page=2 for a script that might work for you in gnome
[08:44] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: sorry but I've never used automake - the sites howto seems straightforward just have to adjust the dirs accordingly
[08:44] <RookieStar> ok, i try that
[08:45] <rww> ubottu: tab
[08:45] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, yes seems so, just confused why the git based source seems to not correspond
i think it cant get the internet cause it even cannot ping any site
[08:46] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: have youused autoconf to make the configure script as suggested from the file?
[08:47] <dhiraj> @dov: thank you for the thread...but it seems that the script is for XFCE
[08:47] <dhiraj> not for gnome
[08:47] <well_laid_lawn> RookieStar: sounds like lots have gone wrong with your install - did you do the cd check?
[08:48] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, no I have not
[08:48] <occamsRZR> Whoop whoop
i installed it from hard disk
[08:48] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: I don't know how to use autoconf but it sounds like you need to run it
when installing, i cut the internet wire off
[08:49] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: and that should get the needed configure script
[08:50] <RookieStar> should i update AMD ATI thingy?
[08:51] <dov> dhiraj, sorry about that.  Maybe I'll take a crack at converting that script next weekend.  Have you checked to see if gnome-shell (gnome 3) will include that feature?  I think it's due to be released in a couple of weeks
[08:53] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, yes you are on teh right track, some minor errors when it ran.. unfortanelty now get following from 'auto-apt run ./configure' "cannot find install-sh, install.sh, or shtool in build/config "."/build/config"
[08:53] <dov> dhiraj, did you try #gnome?
[08:54] <dhiraj> dov, sure i will check it, thanks for your help
[08:54] <bullgard> 'detlef@no:~$ screen -x; There is no screen to be attached.' How can I re-attach screen?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> If theres no other screens running.. there is none to reattatch to...
[08:55] <brontoeee> bulldog, screen -r ?
[08:55] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: as i said I don't know the app - there is a readme with the source?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> screen has some list option to see what screesn exist
should i reinstall it? or i will be the same?
[08:55] <well_laid_lawn> RookieStar: I would do the cd check first
 i dont have a cd of ubuntu
[08:56] <bullgard> brontoeee: '~$ screen -r; There is no screen to be resumed.'
[08:56] <well_laid_lawn> RookieStar: it is an option on the cd's boot menu
[08:56] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: Hm...
[08:57] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, no, but have been advised now to try 'autoreconf -fvi'
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> screen -ls   to see what's there
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: luck ;']
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> :]*
[08:57] <wqz2719> bullgard: how did you detach screen before?
[08:57] <fahad> hello
[08:59] <hipitihop> well_laid_lawn, thanks... it is these sort of problems why so far I'm still shy about recommendations to isntall from source, invariably something like this comes up and I get stuck and bother people
[08:59] <bullgard> wqz2719: I did not. Some other influence.
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> hipitihop: you not bothering anyone - i just don't know the app or it's build process... :]
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> s/you/you're/
[09:01] <Calinou> me?
[09:02] <quesada> I'm using bare X (with xmonad) and I miss an option to make windows chrome dark. Is this possible (outside of gnome/kde's themes)?
[09:03] <maco> quesada: you can still set gtk themes in ~/.gtkrc i think
[09:03] <quesada> maco: thanks, will check
[09:05] <bihari> gcc is already insttaled om lucid?
[09:05] <Kwpolska> bihari: I think no.
[09:06] <bazhang> bihari, install build-essential
[09:06] <bihari> is GCC is already installed in lucid?
[09:06] <wqz2719> gcc is, but no header files
[09:06] <RookieStar> <well_laid_lawn: thanks, i'll be back!
[09:06] <bihari> what is build-essential ?
[09:06] <bazhang> bihari, install it
[09:06] <RookieStar> have a good day, guys
[09:06] <bazhang> !b-e > bihari
[09:07] <aditya> hey, having a very weird problem here - the cursor is following the mouse pointer like mad. It's driving me crazy. How can I stop that behavior?
[09:07] <Igramul> aditya, maybe the mouse button is stuck.
[09:09] <krishyuva> hi
[09:09] <krishyuva> hi
[09:10] <xover> how do I make the kernel run the current statup scripts in my runlevel
[09:10] <aditya> Igramul, nope. It doesn't happen right away. I type 3-4 characters and the cursor goes to the text area under the pointer or if the pointer is not on a text area then the cursor disappears
[09:10] <xover> I have added some sysv script links and want to refresh without changing runlevels
[09:10] <bazhang> !upstart > xover
[09:10] <A|pHA> how do i run net rpc tunneling
[09:11] <xover> bazhang, I know how to do that
[09:11] <xover> I am asking how do I get the kernel to reread the runlevels script links
[09:11] <xover> i tried telinit 2 and nothing happens
[09:11] <dov> aditya: maybe there's an accessibility setting you changed recently?
[09:12] <aditya> dov, nope. It's a fresh install.
[09:12] <A|pHA> mapunixgroup root chmod ?
[09:12] <lenz> folks
[09:12] <lenz> help
[09:12] <lenz> here is ubuntu studio users?
[09:12] <dov> aditya: is it on a laptop or using something like bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo or extra peripherals?
[09:13] <aditya> laptop
[09:13] <aditya> nothing else
[09:13] <A|pHA> Donde esta la backtrack 133t ?
[09:13] <bazhang> lenz, #ubuntustudio
[09:13] <lenz> thnx
[09:13] <bazhang> A|pHA, #backtrack-linux
[09:13] <A|pHA> no slack
[09:13] <A|pHA> si senior
[09:13] <bihari> gcc gross_salary -o gross_salary.c << i am trying to compile my programe but it having some problem
[09:14] <dov> aditya: basically, the focus always follows the mouse, right?
[09:14] <aditya> not for windows
[09:14] <dov> aditya: what os and window manager?
[09:14] <aditya> just for text
[09:14] <dov> aditya: and app?
[09:14] <aditya> Ubuntu 10.04 gnome
[09:14] <aditya> all apps
[09:14] <wqz2719> bindi: wrong syntax. try: gcc -o gross_salary gross_salary.c
[09:14] <wqz2719> bihari: wrong syntax. try: gcc -o gross_salary gross_salary.c
[09:14]  * bindi is scared
[09:14] <dov> aditya: so if you open a terminal, you get the same thing?
[09:15] <wqz2719> bindi: sorry, wrong tab completion
[09:15] <aditya> no cause there is only one text area in terminal
[09:15] <dov> aditya: i want to try to reproduce your problem.  give me an app to try on
[09:15] <aditya> dov, like now in xchat if I leave the cursor over the list of channels while I am typing - the channel changes all of a sudden
[09:16] <dov> aditya: ok, let me try something
[09:16] <aditya> dov, okay, another situation, I am typing password for GMail and the cursor suddenly disappears from the password box because pointer is not inside the box
[09:17] <airtonix> aditya, if its a wireless mouse you might like to try usign a wired mouse.
[09:17] <aditya> dov, while I am chatting with 3-4 people on GMail and if the pointer is in the window of 1st contact while I am chatting with the 2/3/4th person then cursor suddenly jumps to 1st window
[09:17] <aditya> it is the touchpad
[09:17] <bihari> http://paste.ubuntu.com/478275/ look i got the same problem
[09:17] <aditya> of the laptop
[09:17] <airtonix> aditya, is it a synaptics or a alpa touchpad ?
[09:17] <dov> aditya: i understand.
[09:17] <A|pHA> beta
[09:18] <bihari> http://codepad.org/ipZlCncf and this is my programme
[09:18] <aditya> airtonix, synaptics
[09:18] <dov> aditya: have you tried lowering the sensitivity settings for tapping the touchingpad?
[09:18] <bazhang> A|pHA, backtrack is not supported here
[09:18] <aditya> dov, how? gsynaptics is not working
[09:19] <dov> aditya: i use mouse preferences
[09:19] <aditya> system -> preferences -> mouse?
[09:19] <dov> System->Preferences->Mouse
[09:20] <aditya> there is no such thing as the tap sensitivity
[09:20] <dov> aditya: i have a toshiba satellite that responds to that dialog
[09:20] <dov> i used the dbl click
[09:20] <bihari>  look i have a programe http://codepad.org/ipZlCncf but i got an error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/478275/   can any one help me
[09:20] <A|pHA> *--***  ****--  **
[09:20] <aditya> dov, what?
[09:20] <bazhang> A|pHA, stop that
[09:21] <dov> aditya: there's a tab for touchpad
[09:21] <dov> aditya: enable mouse clicks with touchpad
[09:21] <aditya> dov, cannot find it :(
[09:21] <wqz2719> bihari: the source from http://codepad.org/ipZlCncf compiles fine here
[09:22] <dov> aditya: i'm running gnome 2.30.2
[09:22] <dov> aditya: System->Prefs->Mouse
[09:23] <dov> aditya: Touchpad Tab
[09:23] <aditya> dov., there is no touchpad tab
[09:23] <dov> adi
[09:23] <bihari> wqz2719,  yes but not on GCC
[09:23] <aditya> and I get this error GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[09:23] <aditya> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics
[09:23] <wqz2719> bihari: i have gcc
[09:24] <dov> aditya: one sec.  I'll find a screenshot for you
[09:24] <dov> aditya: i'm not using xorg.conf
[09:24] <dov> aditya: it's autoconfigured in 10.04
[09:24] <aditya> ok
[09:25] <dov> aditya: ok.  I found one for you.  Sorry about the length of the url
[09:25] <dov> http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thinkwiki.org/images/e/e0/Screenshot-Mouse_Preferences.png&imgrefurl=http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Synaptics_TouchPad_driver_for_X&usg=__99LxJrhLCd6P7bgReRqa4fz_Shw=&h=649&w=606&sz=32&hl=en&start=0&tbnid=iM-GmTUSkIWqwM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgnome%2Bmouse%2Bpreferences%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1149%26bih%3D865%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=439&vpy=67&dur=295&hov
[09:25] <dov> h=135&hovw=126&tx=63&ty=105&ei=T6RnTOW0BIPCsAPLxoHmBQ&oei=T6RnTOW0BIPCsAPLxoHmBQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0
[09:25] <abhijit> !paste > dov
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> heh. a url across 2 lines.. not going to work vbery well.
[09:26] <dov> ubottu: ok.  tx
[09:26] <rww> dov, aditya: Try http://www.thinkwiki.org/images/e/e0/Screenshot-Mouse_Preferences.png ;P
[09:27] <rww> all that other stuff is silliness added by Google Image Search
[09:27] <aditya> rww, dov, there is no touchpad tab in my mouse properties
[09:27] <airtonix> aditya, if there is no touchpad tab it means you dont have a synaptics touchpad
[09:27] <bullgard> '~$ screen -list; No Sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-detlef.' How to fix this?
[09:27] <aditya> then what is it :-|
[09:27] <dov> rww: thanks
[09:28] <airtonix> aditya, most likely the same as mine... (not fully supported by ubuntu yet)
[09:29] <aditya> airtonix, argh... I can't even install Arch on this
[09:34] <airtonix> aditya, what kind of laptop is it ?
[09:35] <aditya> MSI s6000
[09:38] <airtonix> aditya, what does it say when you run : syndaemon -d -t
[09:43] <aditya> airtonix, unable to find synaptics device
[09:43] <geri2> hi what is causing this problem? http://www.upload-pictures.de/bild.php/805,xtermproblemVGQQ1.png
[09:45] <Thiago_MG> olá bom dia
[09:46] <Thiago_MG> algum brasileiro aeee
[09:46] <sacarlson> geri2: sounds like you don't have a running xserver.  are you running just a server without graphics?  no gui stuf?
[09:46] <daglees> eu
[09:46] <Thiago_MG> to precisando de ajuda
[09:46] <Thiago_MG> DAGLEES pode me ajudar
[09:46] <geri2> sacarlson, if xterm is opening a gui window...a xserver should run in the background?
[09:47] <kangu> how can I install gimp under ubuntu ?
[09:47] <sacarlson> geri2: you lost me there.  are you running from ubuntu-desktop  or just a server headless?
[09:48] <max__> hallo
[09:48] <vdv> hi all
[09:48] <vdv> is there any live dvd with ubuntu?
[09:48] <Thiago_MG> olá
[09:48] <Thiago_MG> bom dia a todos
[09:48] <rww> ubottu: br | Thiago_MG
[09:48] <geri2> from ubuntu desktop i entered alt + f2 ... there i entered xterm...a gui window opened then i run this command as you see in the paste...
[09:48] <geri2> gui terminal
[09:49] <Thiago_MG> obrigado
[09:50] <geri2> sacarlson, do you understand?
[09:51] <sacarlson> geri2: not sure then.  I don't expect your display is something other than :0.0 that's default and you should have privliges as root.  maybe run it as a user?
[09:53] <geri2> sacarlson, the display error is gone now
[09:53] <sacarlson> geri2: don't suppose it would run better in gnome-terminal?  I don't use thta alt-f2 thing and I don't run java stuf
[09:54] <geri2> i am on kde
[09:54] <geri2> just run from the default terminal
[09:54] <sacarlson> oh ok
[09:55] <geri2> sacarlson, it worked;)
[09:55] <fancybit> there are many .d files, what's the generally usage of them?
[09:55] <sacarlson> geri2: why?
[09:56] <geri2> i run the command from the defaukt terminal
[09:56] <geri2> as a user
[09:56] <sacarlson> geri2: how good guess on my part total luck
[10:01] <Guest78691> hello
[10:01] <Guest78691> can anyone help me update my apt-get sources?
[10:02] <Calinou> you mean in a terminal : sudo apt-get update ?
[10:02] <Calinou> you mean that?
[10:02] <Guest78691> yeah, i've gone to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:02] <Calinou> sudo apt-get update
[10:02] <Kwpolska> yes?
[10:02] <Guest78691> and run apt-get update
[10:02] <Kwpolska> and just "apt sources".
[10:02] <Guest78691> and it throws me a bunch of 404 errosr
[10:02] <Calinou> yea, and?
[10:02] <Calinou> ohoh
[10:02] <Guest78691> but i don't know what to put inside the sources file
[10:02] <Guest78691> guessing the files aren't on the sources?
[10:02] <Kwpolska> Guest78691: are you connected to the internet properly or is the mirrors correct?
[10:03] <Calinou> avoid modifing sources.list if you're not experimented
[10:03] <Guest78691> i thik theres a problem with the mirrors
[10:03] <Guest78691> its connected to the net
[10:04] <Guest78691> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.167 80]
[10:04] <Guest78691> thats why i get after running update
[10:04] <Calinou> ohoh...
[10:04]  * Calinou hides
[10:04] <rww> Guest78691: are you running Gutsy?
[10:04] <Guest78691> yep
[10:05] <Guest78691> the servers been running for three years, so i'm sure somethings out of date
[10:05] <rww> Guest78691: You shouldn't be, its repositories haven't gotten security updates since April, 2009. It's also not supported here.
[10:05] <rww> ubottu: eol
[10:05] <wqz2719> gutsy is not supported anymore
[10:06] <Guest78691> ah right
[10:06] <Guest78691> so is there something i can run to upgrade everything to the latest version
[10:06] <rww> Guest78691: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Gutsy
[10:07] <nobarking> i'm noticing an issue with Firefox's file save dialog after a KDE SC 4.5 upgrade in Kubuntu, is there a fix for this?
[10:07] <Guest78691> ah thanks
[10:07] <Guest78691> although, if I run that, it looks like it'll reboot and log me out
[10:08] <Guest78691> and unless it all works well and runs sshd again, i'm locked out?
[10:08] <c3l> nobarking: go to firefox settings and tick the box to always ask where to save files
[10:09] <nobarking> c3l: i think it has to do with the Qt file dialog tweak Kubuntu does out of the box...
[10:09] <rww> Guest78691: assuming that you don't have local console access, correct. I personally wouldn't recommend doing a release upgrade over ssh.
[10:09] <Guest78691> that sounds sensible
[10:09] <Guest78691> well thanks for the help everyone
[10:10] <c3l> Guest78691: I wouldnt relie on it, but normally yes. but issues an occure when doing release upgrades. I suggest being physically present when you update
[10:10] <Guest78691> i might go in one day and just wipe everything and put the latest dist on there
[10:11] <Guest78691> is there a good guide on setting up a webserver with ftp? i did it all manually last time and it was slightly annoying. surely there must be an ubuntu guide with the best way of doing everything (LAMP + FTP)
[10:11] <rww> ubottu: lamp
[10:11] <rww> I don't know about the FTP side of things. I use SFTP instead.
[10:12] <Guest78691> i did use that initially, but found it really slow
[10:12] <c3l> Guest78691: thats what id do :)
[10:12] <Guest78691> although I got into a whole lot of trouble from using unsecured ftp in cambodia (fail) so would be keen to give sftp another go
[10:12] <Gangrel> anyone knows how to find and install drivers for my wireless pci card? LevelOne WNC-301
[10:12] <c3l> for transfering files ssh is ideal, only use ftp if theres no other solution, ftp is insecur too
[10:13] <ServerTech> how can i change the SUDO pass
[10:13] <ServerTech> ..
[10:13] <Guest78691> how would you transfer files using ssh from the local host
[10:13] <c3l> ServerTech: sudo uses your users password
[10:13] <wqz2719> c3l: and ftp is very ugly protocol. (control connection + data connection)
[10:14] <ServerTech> hmm c3l changind the user pass will also change the sudo pass?
[10:14] <c3l> Guest78691: whats the destination
[10:14] <Guest78691> ftp has all these draw backs, but it's supported by so many apps
[10:14] <rww> ServerTech: there's no such thing as a "sudo pass". sudo asks for your user password.
[10:14] <Guest78691> destination is from my mac to the server
[10:14] <c3l> ServerTech: yes, sudo password will allways be the same as the userpassword
[10:14] <ServerTech> ok
[10:14] <Guest78691> uploading code, images, etc
[10:14] <ServerTech> thx
[10:14] <wqz2719> Guest78691: unfortunately, yes
[10:14] <c3l> ServerTech: rww said it better =)
[10:15] <ServerTech> ^_^
[10:15] <brontoeee> Guest78691, ssh server on linux + either free filezilla on mac or transmit which supposedly can mount ssh locations natively
[10:15] <c3l> scp /local/mac/file user@server.com:/remote/path  ?
[10:16] <Kwpolska> c3l: what?
[10:16] <Guest78691> ah true, it can. i love how it can mount the destination as well
[10:17] <c3l> Kwpolska: cant he just use scp?
[10:17] <Guest78691> c3l: that wouldn't work as the command would be fun on the remote machine, it doesn't have access to the local files
[10:17] <Kwpolska> c3l: he can.
[10:17] <c3l> yes he can scp user@remote.com:/path/file /local/path
[10:17] <Kwpolska> but I am actually not sure if he can mount it somewhere by scp
[10:18] <c3l> as long as the ssh server is running at remote
[10:18] <c3l> Kwpolska: do you need to mount it?
[10:18] <c3l> then use sshfs
[10:18] <c3l> it might be easier if you got many files
[10:19] <Guest78691> it's easier because you can do anything like save photoshop files directly the site, open all the code in an editor and edit live etc
[10:19] <Kwpolska> c3l: I am not asking any question to you, I don't care. I'm using nautilus and filezilla for it
[10:19] <wqz2719> sshfs rocks
[10:19] <c3l> but you could just alias the long ugly scp command and make it shorter and faster to use. but sshfs is great
[10:20] <Gate> sshfs is fantastic
[10:20] <c3l> whats with the attitude? this is a public support channel, and I did give you a solution, several actually
[10:21] <Gangrel> !pastebin
[10:21] <ghufran> hi. can someone help me with pitivi? i rendered a file but there is no video in it.. just audio.
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> ghufran:  you sure its not your player that dosent have the proper codec/setup for teh video file?
[10:22] <ghufran> Dr_Willis, i exported it to output.avi and used vlc.
[10:22] <A|pHA> How do you exchange keys setting up wireless VPNs w/ RSA3 +MD6 ?
[10:22] <gimpy283> I installed Ubuntu Server 10.04 then loaded the ubuntu-desktop package.  This works but not to my TV.  I have installed the proprietary nvidia drivers, lowered my resolution, adjusted other settings such as sync, but every time it boots, as soon as it gets to where the desktop should come up, my TV stops displaying it.  Any ideas?
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> ghufran:  see what teh file, or ffprobe command say about the file. and run vlc from a terminal and see if it mentions any video codecs.
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> gimpy283:  Use the nvidia settings tool and enable the tv out. Ive had nvidia cards int eh past that default to the TV (svideo) out  when they boot up. BUT once the nvidia drivers startup the tv turns off. Unless its configured tobe the default device
[10:24] <c3l> gimpy283: are you connected with hdmi?
[10:24] <ghufran> Dr_Willis, tried command prompt. i dont see anything ..
[10:25] <A|pHA> RSA3 + MD6 key exchange ?
[10:25] <A|pHA> sorry, for wireless VPNs
[10:25] <fanzhen> hey, using wubi.exe to install ubuntu. it always download online, but how to using my own intall file??
[10:26] <ghufran> Dr_Willis, this is what i get with ffprobe: http://pastie.org/1093372
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> ghufran:  the ffprobe command is a tool ive recently learned about that can give some good info on various video files also.  :) lets see what it sayz
[10:26] <fanzhen> have put install file in the same directory with wubi
[10:26] <fanzhen> but it didnt work
[10:27] <brontoeee> Dr_Willis, ghufran it says that ffmpeg  doesnt have a clue what video is
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> ghufran:  it does seem the avi is either curruptd.. or  a odd codec... that is interesting
[10:27] <ghufran> Dr_Willis, it says unsupported codec. i wonder which codec it is talking about..
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> at least now its pointing to an issue with the  pitivi tool.
[10:27] <brontoeee> ghufran, try mediainfo
[10:27] <A|pHA> ?
[10:28] <ghufran> brontoeee, i have ffmpeg and i can encode/decode just fine using the commandline. what is mediainfo?
[10:28] <fanzhen> hey, using wubi.exe to install ubuntu. it always download online, but how to using my own intall file?? have put install file in the same directory with wubi.but it didnt work
[10:28] <brontoeee> ghufran, google it
[10:28] <A|pHA> lol
[10:28] <ghufran> brontoeee, ok!
[10:29] <Varan> I'm using the java lib joal  and i have installed openal lib in ubuntu but joal doesn't the detect the libopenal.so.1 ubuntu has in it's lib dir ... should ubuntu not also make a symlink to libopenal.so for the current version?
[10:30] <gimpy283> Dr_Willis: There is not TV out option in Nvidia's control app.  It does see that a TV is connected, but nothing for "TV out mode" or anything similar.
[10:31] <gimpy283> c3l: Nope, s-video.
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> gimpy283:  i set up my TV same as I would 2 monitors..
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> click on the TV display, activate it.. it starts working
[10:33] <brontoeee> ghufran, its imho the best tool to get info about movie files
[10:33] <linux_> help needed, gps bluetooth does not connect, config fails
[10:33] <ghufran> brontoeee, yes. trying to install it.. its not in apt i think
[10:34] <brontoeee> ghufran, this i think https://launchpad.net/~shiki/+archive/mediainfo
[10:35] <brontoeee> ghufran, also gui is to be desired, but cli version rocks
[10:35] <mwd> Where can I see, if the nouveau driver or the standard vesa driver is active?
[10:36] <gimpy283> Dr_Willis: You live in a world were things work as they should?  Never heard of such a place.
[10:37] <c3l> gimpy283: I dont know about svideo, but it could maybe cause trouble with some drivers as hdmi, if you can, try plugging in your tv with a normal vga cable and see if that works
[10:37] <ghufran> brontoeee, oh i fixed it. stupid mistake. i hadnt changed the container to avi while rendering the video
[10:40] <mwd> Where can I see, if the nouveau driver or the standard vesa driver is active?
[10:40] <bullgard> Gedit does not find '[$$:$$] ' in a text. How to express »a single charcter« in Gedit > Search for:?
[10:41] <bullgard> s/charcter/character/
[10:41] <gimpy283> c3l: TV doesn't VGA, hence the use of s-video.
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> gimpy283:  ive used svideo out for ages with my nvidia systems. rarely had an issue.
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> gimpy283:  whats your video chipset anyway?
[10:44] <brontoeee> ghufran, cool
[10:45] <mwd> Where can I see, if the nouveau driver or the standard vesa driver is active?
[10:46] <erUSUL> mwd: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:46] <daycap> can someone please help me Im very new to ubuntu and am having problems with some programs that I run seem to be in a strange font and I don't know how to fix this
[10:47] <gimpy283> Dr_Willis: GeForce 9....something.  this is to replace an older system I was using as a media center which also ran Ubuntu and had a nvidia card.
[10:48] <mwd> @erUSUL: Thanx, I know the log, but I want to check the active driver with a script. Is there a command which shows me the active graphics driver?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> gimpy283:  well in the past ive had Nvidia cards default to using the Svideo out If a tv was hooked up. Ive evern isntalled ubuntu that way. But when i installed the nvidia drivers. I had to  be sure to have a Moniotor hooked up. or use the command line tools to enable the TV out.
[10:49] <erUSUL> daycap: what programs ?
[10:49] <erUSUL> daycap: check System>Preferences>Appearance||Fonts
[10:49] <daycap> some of the programs that I run seem to be in a strange font
[10:49] <btarik> how can i set up a panel per desktop which shows only the windows that are opened in the current desktop view
[10:50] <gimpy283> Dr_Willis: If s-video is plugged in this card will nto show anything on VGA, not even POST.  With VGA and s0video plugged in it will not show anything via s-video, not even POST but will see that something is attached via s-video when I go into the settings manager.
[10:50] <erUSUL> btarik: change the properties of the windows list applet
[10:50] <erUSUL> preferences
[10:50] <rajeev> How to start archive manager in ubuntu?
[10:51] <erUSUL> rajeev: alt + f2 - file-roller
[10:51] <rajeev> erUSUL: thx
[10:52] <daycap> they all seem to be set to something I can read but I just ran office and all the menus are in a strange font
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> gimpy283:  so it defaults to svideo if scideo is the only think hooked up. You should be able to confiogure it after you get the monitor setup  to use the tv out with the nvidia-settings tool.
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> i dont even have a Svideo TV here any more to test/makeup an xorg.conf for an example :()
[10:55] <gimpy283> Dr_Willis: You mentioned tv out before, but there is nothing named TV out.  It sees that aTV is connected but all the settings are the same as they would be for a monitor.  There is nothing that says "use tv out" or anything similar.
[10:56] <ivers> bah, my computer is just putting everything in cached with the psysical memory and uses no swap. what to do ?
[10:56] <bullgard> Gedit does not find '[$$:$$] ' in a text. How to express »a single character« in Gedit > Search for:?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> gimpy283:  its using the tv output - you DO configure it the same as you basically would a monitor.
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> if its showing the tv. you should be able to click on it and tell it to use twinview, or clone the displays,  or whatever and hit apply and it should turn on the tv.
[10:58] <rww> ivers: umm, that's intended behavior...
[10:59] <ivers> rww: sure, but I googled it and found a article about what the system uses with the free memory
[10:59] <ivers> err
[10:59] <jos001> HI,EVERYONE
[10:59] <ivers> what the system use the free memory FOR
[10:59] <ivers> thats more correct
[11:00] <jos001> how to install Ibus
[11:00] <rww> ivers: I'm not sure what you mean. If it's free memory, it's by definition not being used.
[11:00] <ivers> rww: uses free memory for cpu caching ?
[11:00] <ivers> "free"
[11:00] <jos001> what are the commands of installation software in a terminal box
[11:01] <rww> ivers: CPU caches have nothing to do with RAM, they're implemented within the CPU itself.
[11:01] <ivers> jos001: sudo apt-get install ibus
[11:01] <bullgard> jos001: apt-get install
[11:01] <jos001> but now I dont have apt
[11:01] <moorthyvsm> so
[11:01] <ivers> rww: and still it does use Physical Memory for it
[11:02] <jos001> can;t find it...it has not been installed
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> jos001:  you dont have the 'apt-get' command ?
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> !info ibus
[11:02] <jos001> yes
[11:02] <hubi123> #ubuntu-pl
[11:02] <bullgard> !prefix | jos001
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> jos001:  yes you do? yes you dont?
[11:03] <rww> ivers: I have no idea what you're talking about.
[11:03] <ivers> rww: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/07/memory-swap-management/
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> !linuxatemyram
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> No factoid for that one. :()
[11:03] <ivers> Dr_Willis: fail :>
[11:04] <rww> !memory
[11:04] <jos001> usr/share/doc/fitx/README.Debian
[11:05] <rww> ivers: that article is written imprecisely. "CPU cache" and "free memory" both mean something other than how it uses them.
[11:05] <jos001> sudo: apt: command not found
[11:05] <rww> jos001: it's apt-get, not apt
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> jos001:  the command is 'apt-get' not 'apt'
[11:05] <ivers> Yeah rww. I might have some problems expressing my self.
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> !apt | jos001
[11:06] <jos001> Thank u very much
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> !manual | jos001
[11:07] <rww> ivers: however, the point of it appears to be that Linux uses memory for caching and releases that memory if another program needs it, which is correct. However, your original question mentioned swap. The swap isn't generally used for caching because it's slow, and caching data from the hard disk on the hard disk is rather pointless.
[11:07] <rww> hence, as I said, caching in memory and not caching in swap are intended behavior.
[11:08] <ivers> rww: yeah I dont get it why they use swap. As my laptop, I don't have swap since its 6 gb memory
[11:08] <appi_uppi> Hi, ubuntu performance has slow down. How do i troubleshoot it to fix?
[11:09] <jos001> sorry i made mistake,the command should be apt-get install package or apt   -get   install package
[11:09] <spyder> apt-get
[11:09] <jos001> not the latter one
[11:09] <rww> ivers: because it gives you more breathing room if you run out of physical memory before the kernel starts killing off processes
[11:09] <ivers> yeah
[11:10] <rww> ivers: but yes, if you have 6GB of memory, this situation is not likely to happen.
[11:10] <jos001> now it works ,apt-get install ibus
[11:10] <ivers> rww: its just lost drive space
[11:10] <rww> ivers: oh, you also need a swap partition for hibernation to work
[11:10] <rww> but if you don't care about either of those things, feel free to not make one.
[11:11] <ivers> rww: you don't need it if you write memory to a temp file
[11:11] <gimpy283> Dr_Willis: I just copied a known working xorg.conf from the previous ubuntu+nvidia+svideo box to this one and it STILL fails.
[11:11] <nwa> hallo ppls
[11:12] <sacarlson> appi_uppi: you can try the command top,  it will show what is using your cpu and memory.  my guess is it's compiz  if you have that active.
[11:12] <bihari>  i have a problem when i am runing this programe http://codepad.org/f9mGJxWJ  in my gcc i got a error purchase.c: In function ‘main’:purchase.c:15: warning: too few arguments for format
[11:12] <nwa> i need support need to play youtube video in side the totem player
[11:12] <bihari> *
[11:13] <appi_uppi> sacarlson, sure will run the command now
[11:13] <nwa> but i got err mess like this one "Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
[11:13] <rww> bihari: You used %c in the first argument to printf, so it needs a second argument saying which variable you want to be used there.
[11:13] <Hady> hi is anyone here? i'm in a huge panic :S
[11:14] <dabukalam> I just installed tweetdeck, but it broke my software index. Now aptitude wants me to apt-get -f install, which will remove tweetdeck. I don't want to remove tweetdeck. How can I repair the index without uninstalling TD?
[11:14] <dabukalam> !ask | Hady
[11:14] <Hady> i need to ask something about ubuntu netbook remix
[11:14] <ivers> ask your question Hady
[11:14] <fi3ei2> nwa: right click to file and check permission tab
[11:15] <Hady> I am having loads of trouble with the wifi on Ubuntu Netbook Remix, i have set up my wifi settings correctly.  But it won't connect
[11:15] <ivers> Hady: do you have a broadcom chipset ?
[11:15] <fi3ei2> nwa: and check "others access"
[11:15] <Hady> no, i don't know what that it.  but i have wifi built in to my netbook
[11:16] <ivers> Hady: many netbooks comes with broadcom chipsets that need 3rd party firmware
[11:16] <nwa> Fi3ei2 right click on video inside the totem ?
[11:16] <Hady> ok
[11:16] <bullgard> Gedit does not find '[$$:$$] ' in a text. How to express »a single character« in Gedit > Search for:?
[11:16] <ivers> Hady: do a lspci and check
[11:16] <dabukalam> Hady: Can you see a list of wireless networks?
[11:16] <nwa> Fi3ei2 how do i check sorry i now to this :)
[11:16] <Hady> in the network manager?
[11:16] <fi3ei2> nwa: no, you have download file from youtube, and trying to open this, rihgt?
[11:16] <fi3ei2> nwa: right?*
[11:16] <nwa> no
[11:17] <nwa> i need to play video online from youtube
[11:17] <Hady> i dont have a list of wireless networks
[11:17] <nwa> like minitube you now
[11:17] <appi_uppi> sacarlson, it is chrome with 59% of CPU utilization
[11:17] <Hady> it just says "Wireless Networks disconnected"
[11:17] <dabukalam> Hady: Open terminal and type "lspci | grep broadcom" withouth the quotes
[11:17] <Hady> ok
[11:18] <ivers> thx dabukalam
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> bulldog:  You are looking for the exact pattern [$$:$$]' ? or what exactly?
[11:18] <fi3ei2> nwa: i dont know to use totem but try this, type "sudo totem" to terminal
[11:18] <fi3ei2> and type your password
[11:18] <fi3ei2> and try to connect youtube videos again
[11:18] <bazhang> fi3ei2, you dont use sudo with totem
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> running totem as root.. is a scary idea.
[11:19] <nwa> dude i m on the ubuntu no need to sudo shit :)
[11:19] <fi3ei2> really? im just using it -.-
[11:19] <bazhang> nwa, watch the language
[11:19] <nwa> My bad
[11:19] <Hady> hold on, ignore this thing; 1 l
[11:19] <Hady> k
[11:19] <ivers> running totem at all is scary
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> For a GUI app one would use gksudo not sudo for staters...
[11:19] <nwa> i talk that way in real life :(
[11:19] <bazhang> nwa, dl the youtube video, right click open with whatever player
[11:20] <dabukalam> Hady: if you have a british keyboard, the | is usually above the \
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> Theres firefox extensions that can download and convert  youtube videos to other formats as well
[11:20] <Hady> i type in lspci | greb broadcom and nothing comes up
[11:20] <bazhang> video download helper is one such example
[11:21] <dabukalam> greb or grep?
[11:21] <sacarlson> appi_uppi: maybe try firefox, don't recall chrome make me run slow.
[11:21] <Hady> greb
[11:21] <dabukalam> try grep :)
[11:21] <Hady> k
[11:21] <ivers> Hady: so a "sudo lspci" and paste the output here -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:21] <nwa> Bazhang i dont have the youtube video download .... i need the totem to play youtube like minitube you now
[11:21] <deoxxa> lol @ greb
[11:22] <ivers> yeah.. what is greb
[11:22] <bazhang> nwa, doubt it can
[11:22] <appi_uppi> sacarlson, Sure, will do that..
[11:22] <bazhang> nwa, try miro for that instead
[11:22] <Hady> i type sudo lspci and it says password for hady
[11:23] <ivers> type in your password, Hady
[11:23] <bazhang> Hady, no need for sudo with that
[11:23] <Hady> it won't let me type now :S
[11:23] <fi3ei2> nwa: miro or minitube, you have to install suitable codecs for totem
[11:23] <bazhang> Hady, it does, but does not show it
[11:23] <fi3ei2> i recommended miro
[11:23] <Hady> aha
[11:23] <nwa> i now
[11:23] <Hady> it has loads of usb devices and stuff
[11:23] <bazhang> Hady, but not needed with lspci
[11:24] <ivers> Hady: paste output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:24] <bazhang> no that's lsusb
[11:24] <Hady> i cant i'm typing this on my pc, the linux is on my netbook
[11:24] <Hady> should i type it?
[11:24] <nwa> but in side the totem it say youtube how come it not playing the youtube ..you now
[11:25] <vertigo_ZT> всем привет, будите помагать новеньким?)
[11:25] <Hady> ???
[11:25] <bazhang> !ru | vertigo_ZT
[11:25] <kevinSJ> What PDF reader comes with Ubuntu 10.04?
[11:25] <tensorpudding> kevinSJ: evince
[11:25] <bazhang> document reader aka evince
[11:25] <Hady> is ivers still there?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> I find evince faster then adobe's pdf reader
[11:26] <ivers> Hady: yeah
[11:26] <ivers> Hady: do you see a line containing Broadcom ?
[11:26] <ivers> :)
[11:26] <tensorpudding> evince isn't really at all like acrobat reader
[11:26] <Hady> k, i was just saying, i cant copy paste because i'm chatting on my pc
[11:26] <Hady> and my ubuntu is on my netbook
[11:26] <ivers> Yeah, I got that
[11:26] <Hady> oh right
[11:26] <nwa> Totem is a was off time ........it promise A lot like youtube but now working
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> this is when ssh and  putty come in handy  - to cut/paste to the remote pc :)
[11:26] <Hady> i cant see a line saying broadcom
[11:27] <bazhang> nwa, which is why we recommended other things to use
[11:27] <ivers> hady: What network interface do you have them
[11:27] <kevinSJ> Is http://live.gnome.org down at the moment?
[11:27] <Hady> what do you mean network interface?
[11:28] <Hady> this is all hardware controllers here, nothing about networks
[11:28] <Slart> kevinSJ: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[11:28] <nwa> Bazhang ... i undertstand i did mange to making it work on time whit help off some one ...
[11:28] <Slart> kevinSJ: wonderful little service
[11:28] <nwa> but now donẗ member
[11:28] <nwa> :(
[11:28] <mirrormirror> does anyone know if theres desktop mode in jolicloud
[11:29] <Hady> i've tried typing lspci and sudo lspci and i just get hardware controllers
[11:29] <Hady> no networks
[11:29] <KE1HA> kevinSJ, but it's down here too.
[11:30] <nwa> i now it work´s... :=) totem is it open source ?
[11:30] <KE1HA> that's a cool ap that :-)
[11:30] <ivers> Hady: do lspci | grep Ethernet
[11:30] <Hady> k
[11:31] <Hady> k, i get "Ethernet: controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co. , Ltd."
[11:32] <abhijit> hello
[11:32] <ivers> Hady: you don't have 2 there ?
[11:32] <Hady> well, i do have a another part that says "Ethernet controller (rev 02)"
[11:33] <Ashev1591> Hai all
[11:34] <fi3ei2> hai
[11:34] <UbuntuUser> Hi all
[11:34] <UbuntuUser> i am facing some problem with my mouse
[11:34] <Ashev1591> When i hibernate my ubuntu it can't in to Gui when i power off my computer
[11:34] <abhijit> !details | UbuntuUser
[11:34] <UbuntuUser> its not working
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> unplug/plug it back in perhaps ubuntuser?
[11:36] <abhijit> Ashev1591, which version of ubuntu?
[11:36] <Ashev1591> 10.04
[11:37] <UbuntuUser> I am running the windows as well as ubuntu 10.04 LTS and i the mouse is not working on ubuntu but its working fine on windows
[11:37] <abhijit> !hardware | UbuntuUser
[11:38] <UbuntuUser> ubottu: i am using the logitech mouse its three button my machine is P4 1.2GHZ
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuser:  and if you Unplug and Plug the mouse back in - does that 'wake it up'  and it starts workiong or not?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuser:  this is a USB mouse? or a PS2 mouse?
[11:39] <UbuntuUser> ubottu: i tried that lots of time but its not working
[11:39] <bazhang> UbuntuUser, ubottu is a bot
[11:39] <Ashev1591> Can any1 help me
[11:40] <abhijit> Ashev1591, look here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/499940
[11:40] <UbuntuUser> I will check about the mouse
[11:40] <amal> !gihappy birthday glitter
[11:40] <bazhang> amal, ?
[11:41] <amal> !gi
[11:41] <abhijit> !mouse | UbuntuUser
[11:41] <kyle_> Hello people. In Music Player 10.4 I have imported a smb folder.  I now want to stop it looking at this folder.
[11:41] <kyle_> How do i stop it looking at this folder.
[11:41] <amal> full version of call recorder for nokia 5800
[11:41] <amal> full version of call recorder for nokia 5800
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> amal:  Huh?
[11:41] <bazhang> amal, this is not a file sharing network STOP
[11:42] <ivers> bazhang: the internet is for porn :-)
[11:42] <yeastwars> I distinctly remember being able to use my mouse wheel and drag windows around the workspace switcher in some previous gnome version. How can I turn this feature back on?
[11:42] <bazhang> ivers, that is not appropriate nor acceptable for here
[11:43] <bazhang> !guidelines > ivers
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> yeastlord3:  its a compiz feature i belive.
[11:43] <sourcemaker> I have a problem with apache... I installed a SSL certificate and now... the browser responses the message sec_error_bad_signature... what's wrong?
[11:43] <ivers> bazhang: damn, let down your guard, it was a joke
[11:43] <yeastwars> Dr_Willis: I've been looking through the convoluted compizconfig dialog for about ten minutes and have yet to find it
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> yeastlord3:  i belive its a setting of one of the application switchers, or somthing..   try the ccsm search box? :)
[11:44] <bazhang> ivers, this is not a joke channel. nonsense in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:44] <yeastwars> Dr_Willis: I found some posts mentioning it being in the viewport section, but I couldn't find the proper setting
[11:44] <Zol> I'm trying to use Samba to share a folder with my windows box on the local network
[11:44] <ivers> bazhang: no, I guess you never got a speeding ticket either.
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> yeastwars:  theres also some plugins that are not installed by default any more.
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> yeastwars:  it may be in one of those
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> Not on a Linux box - so i cant check it out yeastwars
[11:45] <Zol> I can see my linux box in the network section on windows, but when I try to access it I'm asked for credentials. I haven't created any users and when I try to submit with my login & password that I use for ubuntu nothing happens.
[11:45] <br14n4b4nks> afternoon all
[11:45] <kyle_> Hello people. In Music Player 10.4 I have imported a smb folder.  I now want to stop it looking at this folder.
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> Zol:  give your linux users a samba password via command like -->   'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'   perhaps. and set up a password for then
[11:45] <br14n4b4nks> when i boot my pc it sometimes hangs on kubuntu bootscreen
[11:46] <br14n4b4nks> i have to reset it a few times then it runs through to the dekstop
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> Zol:  the users login password and samba password can be different. I always set them the same.
[11:46] <br14n4b4nks> any clue what this could be ??
[11:46] <br14n4b4nks> im on kubuntu 10.04 btw
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> br14n4b4nks:  try the 'text' option  and watch for error messages in the text output next time it hangs perhaps.
[11:46] <abhijit> br14n4b4nks, try in #kubuntu
[11:46] <yeastwars> Dr_Willis: oh, it was in "rotating cube"... obviously.
[11:46] <Zol> Dr_Willis: thanks, will try that
[11:46] <darxeth> f
[11:47] <dreamtraveler> Heya, i need some help with vlc 1.1.0. I have downloaded the .debs from tinyurl.com/26jtupb and also have downloaded the necessary versions for dependencies tinyurl.com/2ugqn4l and yet i get the "mp4v" error, have sound but no video.
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> yeastlord3:  yea. that sounds about right.
[11:47] <slow-motion> hi
[11:47] <br14n4b4nks> Dr_Willis, can i switch to text boot while booting ??
[11:47] <kala> missing codecs
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> yeastwars:  or rotateing hexagon in my case.
[11:47] <shuduo> anyone has met problem "dpkg-gencontrol: error: package ... not in control" on compiling kernel under ubuntu?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> br14n4b4nks:  not that ive seen.
[11:47] <abhijit> !kernel | shuduo
[11:47] <wildbat> any tools to capture a video of the screen or window ?  i wanna make a tutorial video.
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> !medibuntu | kala
[11:47] <abhijit> wildbat, istanbul desktop video recorder
[11:47] <bazhang> !screencast | wildbat
[11:48] <wildbat> thanks ~
[11:48] <kala> okay
[11:48] <Zol> Aha! I got access to the computer now. But I seem to lack permissions to my shares. :/
[11:48] <UbuntuUser> ubottu: i am not able to find wheather its USB or PS2 my miuse is of logitech it has three buttons it does not have the end terminal like a USB
[11:48] <shuduo> ubottu: thanks. i'm a developer, need to compile myself
[11:48] <Zol> Oh, now it works. :)
[11:48] <Zol> Thanks!
[11:48] <kala> how to use USB devices with virtualbox?
[11:48] <abhijit> !bot | shuduo UbuntuUser
[11:49] <bazhang> kala, vbox from where
[11:49] <dabukalam> I just installed tweetdeck, but it broke my software index. Now aptitude wants me to apt-get -f install, which will remove tweetdeck. How can I repair the index without uninstalling TD?
[11:49] <kala> ubuntu
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> kala:  you need the virutalbox version from the VBOX homepage. NOT the one from the repos.
[11:49] <kala> i downloaded from home page
[11:49] <bazhang> kala, installed from where
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> dabukalam:  i would fix it.. then reinstall TD.
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> !virtualbox | kala
[11:50] <kala> i cant get my USB devices work on "guest" cant select any
[11:50] <bazhang> kala, try in #vbox
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> kala:  check teh vbox doc/manual also. You confiogure the usb gizxmos in the vbox settingz, then while the guest os is running you use a menu item/icon at buttom right to let it have controll of the device. I do recall needing some tweaks/fix's for some devices also.
[11:50] <yeastwars> Dr_Willis: wait no that was a global binding so now my mousewheel switches workspaces everywhere, *sigh*
[11:52] <kala> i see list of devices cant select any
[11:52] <dabukalam> Dr_Willis: Everytime I install it it breaks the index again :/
[11:53] <UbuntuUser> HI can any one please help me, i am having a logitech three button mouse which is not working on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS i think my mouse is PS2 i am working on a p4 machine I installed ubuntu10.04LTS from windows
[11:56] <abhijit> UbuntuUser, http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&&sa=X&ei=ZcdnTOnqCc6XcayOpZAF&ved=0CB4QBSgA&q=logitech+three+button+mouse+ubuntu+lucid&spell=1&fp=f74487e3e7b7a355
[11:57] <Goliath> hey what are the minimum ram requirements for ubuntu?
[11:57] <bazhang> abhijit, that's not very helpful; please try to select useful individual links
[11:57] <erUSUL> !requirements
[11:57] <bazhang> !requirements > Goliath
[11:57] <yeastwars> Goliath: it depends on what you're going to do with it
[11:58] <yeastwars> Dr_Willis: welp, disabling compiz fixed it if you can call that a fix
[11:58] <abhijit> bazhang, ok. i was confused too.
[11:58] <Goliath> yeastwars, i will do common things. i have 512mb sdram. is xubuntu a better choice?
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> yeastwars:  you are using the metacity 'feature' instead of the compiz stuff then :)
[11:59] <yeastwars> Dr_Willis: yes, it also comes with the magnificent 'feature' of forcing me to unmaximize a window before being allowed to resize it :)
[12:01] <Goliath> according to the site it appears xubuntu is better for this system
[12:01] <bazhang> Goliath, or lubuntu
[12:02] <Goliath> whats that
[12:03] <bazhang> Goliath, lxde with openbox very lightweight
[12:03] <jos001> help me,I just download ibus-pinyin*.tar.gz ,but I dont know how to install it ,who can help me ,thanks ,it locates under /tmp/
[12:03]  * Aiya greets
[12:03]  * sriramoman greets everyone in here!
[12:03] <bazhang> jos001, install from repos not tar.gz
[12:04] <jos001> bazhang ,yes,but how to install from repos ,I am new
[12:04] <kala> anyone can tell me where is "controls" of themes located at?
[12:04] <Aiya> Hello all.Im now using ubuntu netbook edition.So How do I login into ssh (shell).What program should I use to login.Thanks.
[12:04] <abhijit> jos001, which version of ubuntu?
[12:04]  * dreamtraveler geia
[12:04] <tensorpudding> wonder how much effort it would be to make gwibber support tumblr
[12:04] <jos001> I don't know it not ubuntu is jolicloud for netbook ,it is ubuntu-based.
[12:05] <abhijit> :-o
[12:05] <bazhang> jos001, open synaptic package manager and search for it
[12:05] <kala> anyone can tell me where is "controls" of themes located at?
[12:05] <abhijit> jos001, see this: http://code.google.com/p/ibus/wiki/Ubuntu
[12:05] <erUSUL> !controls
[12:05] <kala> !controls
[12:05] <kala> i mean more like push buttons
[12:06] <and> witam
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> kala:  in the theme selection dialogs. theres a advanced/customize button that lets you pick diffemt widgit sets
[12:07] <sriramoman> hi guys, i have a quad-core processor. i used taskset command on a heavy python process to set its affinity to all the cores, and set the nice value to -20. yet on top command, the CPU usage is exactly 100 / 4 = 25. how do i ensure all the cpus are used maximum priority for a process, instead of "load balancing" mathematically
[12:07] <kala> dr_willis: i know but I want to make custom onesd
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> kala:  theres guides at the gnome-look and other theme sites I imagine on making yiour own. or take an existing theme and start looking at the files and edit them
[12:08] <yuya> Ã
[12:08] <erUSUL> sriramoman: the process may be not be smp/threaded so maybe it can only run in one cpu no matter what
[12:08] <yuya> hi
[12:09] <pakete> hello! Is there a solution for fixing stand by mode in 10.04. When the lid is closed, system hangs. Please help!
[12:09] <sriramoman> erUSUL: so thats why we need to strictly go for SMP software wherever possible, to take full advantage of multicores, is it?
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> You could set the lid close action to be just  dim or turn off the display instead of hibernate/sleep/suspend.
[12:10] <erUSUL> sriramoman: correct.
[12:10] <erUSUL> sriramoman: not all tasks can be parallel though
[12:10] <bullgard> Gedit does not find '[$$:$$] ' in a text. How to express the operator »a single character« in Gedit > Search for:?
[12:11] <bullgard> Gedit does not find '[$$:$$] ' in a text. How to express the operator »any single character« in Gedit > Search for:?
[12:11] <sriramoman> erUSUL: yeah, thank u, fine:)
[12:13] <pakete> Dr_Willis , but is the actual stand by mode. I dont need hibernation. Just regular stand by(sleep) mode. I set the action for the lid as "suspend", but system hangs, with ac power as well as on battery
[12:14] <pakete> is there* ?
[12:15] <shkiper> how I can to delete the gnome?
[12:16] <ibrahim-kasem> which one is better ? upgrading 9.10 karmic to lucid 10.04 or installing a new fresh copy ?
[12:16] <dabukalam> Everytime I install Tweetdeck it breaks my software index. How can i fix the index without removing TD?
[12:16] <B-r00t> ibrahim-kasem: fresh install
[12:16] <kala> fresh copy
[12:17] <spyder> i think upgrading is better but it waste of time
[12:17] <ibrahim-kasem> B-r00t, kala thnx guys
[12:19] <abhijit> ibrahim-kasem, fresh copy
[12:20] <ibrahim-kasem> abhijit, thnx dude ;)
[12:20] <abhijit> ibrahim-kasem, :)
[12:20] <Killaklown> hi guys
[12:20] <Killaklown> I have a dual booting question
[12:20] <Kwpolska> Killaklown: which is?
[12:21] <Killaklown> if I install winblows after ubuntu.... will it automatically create the windows boot on grub?
[12:21] <abhijit> winblows? :-0
[12:21] <Killaklown> lulz
[12:21] <Killaklown> yah
[12:21] <PyrO_70> http://www.pyrotools.org/Images/tmp/DSC00198.JPG
[12:21] <kala> no
[12:21] <kala> it will override ubuntu one
[12:21] <abhijit> Killaklown, if you install windows after ubuntu then you need to restore grub. windows will overwrite it
[12:21] <Killaklown> abhijit: ohh i see
[12:22] <Killaklown> abhijit: ok ok so just go thru normal install but just reinstall grub?
[12:22] <kala> http://internauta2000.deviantart.com/art/Ambiance-Refined-GnoMenu-Theme-174558758?q=sort%3Atime+gallery%3Ainternauta2000&qo=1         can anyone help me getting this to work
[12:22] <toop> Greetings Hello Can you help me please?
[12:22] <abhijit> !fixgrub | Killaklown yes
[12:22] <toop> Greetings Hello Can you help me please?
[12:22] <abhijit> !ask | toop
[12:22] <toop> ok sorry
[12:22] <Killaklown> abhijit: thanks bro
[12:22] <Killaklown> abhijit: hugs
[12:22] <Kwpolska> the ubottu answers shall be shorter.
[12:22] <abhijit> Killaklown, welcome.
[12:22] <kala> http://internauta2000.deviantart.com/art/Ambiance-Refined-GnoMenu-Theme-174558758?q=sort%3Atime+gallery%3Ainternauta2000&qo=1         can anyone help me getting this to work
[12:23] <abhijit> Kwpolska, you can make suggestions about ubottu in #ubuntu-bots
[12:23] <hubi123> hello, I have a problem with sound. In 5.1, only the center speaker section and with noise. I have a asus Xonar DX. Ps. Sorry for my poor English.
[12:23] <toop> The video has my laptop? what command to use
[12:23] <abhijit> !details | toop
[12:23] <Kwpolska> kala: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/HOW+TO+INSTALL+%22GNOMENU%22?content=108571 check this out, plz
[12:23] <toop> abhijit: The video has my laptop? what command to use
[12:23] <abhijit> toop, i dont understood your question.
[12:24] <bihari> can any one tell me whats the diffrence between this two programes code and why there  out put is diffrent  http://codepad.org/xgqavWhN   <> http://codepad.org/csirfB3f
[12:24] <toop> ok wait i dont speak english
[12:24] <Kwpolska> bihari: diff can do so
[12:24] <kala> Kwpolska: thank you
[12:24] <Kwpolska> bihari: you forgot a comma
[12:24] <Kwpolska> bihari: but you shall ask #c-basic for that
[12:24] <abhijit> toop, which language you speak?
[12:25] <Saevar> bihari, ; behind if statement ending it...so the printf is ALWAYS, 'cause it's new command :P
[12:25] <toop> spanish
[12:25] <kutsushita> hey guys whats up?
[12:25] <abhijit> !es | toop
[12:25] <toop> yes
[12:25] <toop> I know how that video has my laptop use the shell command to find out if a 256 or 128 or more
[12:25] <ibrahim-kasem> !ar
[12:26] <toop> thanks
[12:26] <ibrahim-kasem> !arabic
[12:26] <Aiya> Greeting.Im planing to buy a desktop and install linux into it as primary OS.So I want to ask advise how many processor and RAM and other thing I need to consider before Im buying it and what brand desktop works best with linux.I will install ubuntu since its user friendly.I need it with good graphic card since i want to do cubic action all.Thanks
[12:26] <abhijit> investigate > ibrahim-kasem
[12:26] <bihari> Saevar,  so which one is true?
[12:26] <Kwpolska> ibrahim-kasem: just shut up with spamming the bot
[12:26] <bihari> http://codepad.org/xgqavWhN
[12:26] <bihari> this one
[12:26] <Saevar> bihari, first one is good... it will no printf :P
[12:27] <Saevar> bihari, yep
[12:27] <abhijit> !irc > ibrahim-kasem
[12:27] <ibrahim-kasem> Kwpolska, thnx !!
[12:27] <hubi123> hello, I have a problem with sound. In 5.1, only the center speaker section and with noise. I have a asus Xonar DX. Ps. Sorry for my poor English.
[12:28] <bihari> Yes acording to rule we dont use comma at the end of if else statment
[12:28] <abhijit> Aiya, read the release notes.
[12:28] <Kwpolska> bihari: it would be better to use {}
[12:28] <bihari> Output:No errors or program output. << it says
[12:29] <Aiya> ok
[12:30] <hubi123> hello, I have a problem with sound. In 5.1, only the center speaker section and with noise. I have a asus Xonar DX. Ps. Sorry for my poor English.
[12:30] <abhijit> !sound | hubi123
[12:30] <Sushilover> hi there, I'd like to have my "show desktop" shortcut work properly. Here's the problem: when I do the command for it, it shows my desktop, when I unminimize a window, then do the command again, it unminimizes all other windows, I then need to do the command again in order for it to hide them all again
[12:31] <umesh> Hi all i am using a logitech three button mouse which is PS/2 and its not working with Ubuntu 10.04LTS can any one please help me in this
[12:31] <ryrych> hello
[12:32] <ryrych> how can I install xorg from Karmic with *all* its dependencies?
[12:32] <airtonix> Sushilover, show desktop is not the right word for that tool.. "toggle minimise/maximise state of all windows" is a better description
[12:32] <airtonix> Sushilover, or : toggle iconified state of all windows.
[12:32] <abhijit> !xorg | ryrych
[12:32] <ryrych> unfortunately, it won't install them
[12:33] <Sushilover> airtonix: yeah that's what I meant, anyways, I'll probably need to enter a custom command for it to work the way I want it to, but I can't find the right command.
[12:33] <ePax> What is plugin-container?
[12:34] <bullgard> ePax: A sub-program for Firefox.
[12:34] <N3VV3K> hey guys how do you burn a dmg file in ubuntu
[12:34] <ePax> bulldog: Any idea what it does?
[12:34] <airtonix> Sushilover, if you're referring to the gnome-panel widget that toggles window state... then im not sure you will find the command
[12:34] <umesh> any help with mouse please
[12:34] <bihari> http://img829.imageshack.us/f/screen1l.png/ look guys i am confused i cant see the answer
[12:35] <bullgard> ePax: It contains (houses) plugin-programs for Firefox.
[12:35] <abhijit> !mouse | umesh
[12:35] <ranjan> umesh, what happened to ur mouse?
[12:35] <Sushilover> airtonix: no, the keyboard shortcut, but it does the same thing though
[12:35] <ryrych> abhijit: I *don't* have problems with resolution...
[12:35] <ranjan> Hi all ..how to enable the fingerprint reader for login in laptops??
[12:36] <umesh> i recently installed the ubuntu and my logitech Ps/2 mouse is not working
[12:36] <iwontbecreative> !hardware | umesh
[12:36] <airtonix> Sushilover, i suspect you would have to become familiar with what dbus is and how you would manipulate it
[12:36] <abhijit> ranjan, http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/get-your-fingerprint-reader-to-work-in.html
[12:37] <ranjan> abhijit, thank you
[12:37] <abhijit> ranjan, welcome.
[12:37] <umesh> Iwontbecreative: i am using the Logitech mouse with my p4 intel Machine
[12:37] <Sushilover> airtonix: I had no idea it would be that hard. For my custom shortcut to launch System Monitor all I did was enter the Name, Command, Shortcut, and done.
[12:38] <airtonix> Sushilover, yes but metcity does not expose it's workings like that .. you also need to appreciate how gnome,gconf, metacity and dbus all communicate
[12:38] <Sushilover> aight airtonix
[12:39] <Sushilover> so it's not possible I guess
[12:39] <airtonix> it is
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> proberly possible.. but not trivial :)
[12:39] <Sushilover> can you find the command?
[12:39] <klooluss> Hi. I need help formatting an external HD. It is a 1TB drive but it came preformatted into a 10meg partition and 99.9gigs of empty space. I can't format the empty space!
[12:40] <oom8ail> klooluss: maybe you should wipe the first blocks of the disk and repartition it from scratch
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Sushilover:  there may be some other ways to do a 'miminize' all.  - but ive never looked into it. 'devilspie' might be able to handle it.
[12:40] <klooluss> oom8ail - how do I do that?
[12:40] <Sushilover> ok, thx, bbl
[12:41] <klooluss> I'm on Kamic 64bit btw
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> klooluss:  use gparted and repartition it how you want.  Its odd a exteranl USB hd would have a reserved partition
[12:41] <oom8ail> klooluss: if you do not need any data on the disk, use something like # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=5
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> klooluss:  be sure that 10gb partition is unmounted also. many tools refuse to work on a mounted filesystem
[12:41] <normaluser> Dr_Willis: nah many do to store backupapps and stuff like that
[12:41] <oom8ail> klooluss: then you may partition it with fdisk
[12:42] <klooluss> Dr_Willis: It's designed for Windows & Macs, the small partition had some .exes and things on it. I think you're supposed to do it all from Windows.
[12:42] <airtonix> lol
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> gparted should let you delete it..
[12:42] <lhavelund> So, I'm in a minor pickle. How can I, with the ftp program in Ubuntu, copy whole folders (including subfolders and dotfiles, etc.) across to a remote host?
[12:42] <oom8ail> klooluss: the command writes 5mb on top of the raw disk and will overwrite the existing partition table for good
[12:42] <hariom> How to install latest updates from apache to Ubuntu 10.04
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> lhavelund:  you mean the command line ftp?
[12:42] <neil_d> trying to get my laptop playing dvds I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and run the /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh script... but I still can't play a dvd :(  anyone know why?
[12:42] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: Correct.
[12:42] <airtonix> hariom, define "latest updates"
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> lhavelund:  theres some options to do it.. last i used that was years and years ago..  somthing to watch out for are permissions and ownerships getting lost. You may want to 'tar' the stuff first.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> lhavelund:  i cant recall the recursive 'put' option for ftp really.. I much perfer scp thesed ays
[12:44] <hariom> I guess the 10.04LTS comes with 2.2.14 Apache2 and current stable is 2.2.16
[12:44] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: I'm just trying to copy over an entire /home partition right now; I'm having to re-do my server. I'll gladly have to manually sort out permissions etc. later, but for now, this is all I have.
[12:44] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: And scp isn't an option :(
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> hariom:  there may be a PPA with newer
[12:44] <hariom> airtonix: how to install security fix getting released in very few months.
[12:44] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: I believe it's "mput".
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> lhavelund:  Id have to do some googling on it.. its been 10+ yrs :0
[12:44] <hariom> Dr_Willis: could you pls explain what is PPA?
[12:44] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: Sheesh.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | hariom
[12:44] <airtonix> hariom, you either  : 1. find an apt repository with the latest version packaged for you. or 2) you compile it yourself.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> lhavelund:  or use a gui to ftp :) if cli only 'mc' can do it...  been ages sicne i did that also
[12:45] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: I'm just going to check mc's docs; might be a good way to go about it. Thanks!
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> lhavelund:  yea. i forget how to do ftp in mc also. :) Been too long.
[12:46] <dagon666> ppa:team-xbmc is down. I wanted to reinstall and now I ended up without it at all :D
[12:46] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: mc is pretty simple :)
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> yea. but how you enter the  ftp:// stuff - is what i dont rember
[12:46] <hariom> Dr_Willis: so in reality it is not out of the box to get security updates for apache ? sudo apt-get update and then dist-upgrade is not helping
[12:46] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: ftp://user:pass@location, I suppose.
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> hariom:  Security updates are   one thing.. jsut new versions are a nother.
[12:47] <oal> Hmm, startup sound works, but nothing else, not vlc, not flash ... Any ideas what's wrong?
[12:47] <rocket16> Is it possible to use another package manager in Ubuntu? Like pacman or portage?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> hariom:  ubuntu follows that 6 Mo release schedule. it dosent normally 'update' packages between releases.
[12:47] <molqr> hello all ... is there an iso image for download that has ``a lot of packages" already ...i m aware of http://www.ubuntu-hr.org/ningi/ ... but i need 64 bit ubuntu ..
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> rocket16:  that would be..  prolematic i imagine.
[12:48] <io> molqr: "A lot of packages already?".
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> molqr:  lots of packages for what? I recall a project called 'ubuntu B-Side' ages ago that had a 2nd cd with many different apps as a companion to a nomral cd/install.
[12:48] <winterweaver> I installed docky, using the ricotz ppa, but this now causes conflicts with another app I require, which need a more standard python-gtk2-dev. I've removed the ppa, but the ricotz packages are still installed. can I savely remove them? and then reinstall? (libgtk) being the main one, without risk of damaging my system?
[12:48] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: wput will do it, apparently.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> lhavelund:  a kin to 'wget' ? :)
[12:49] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: Yup! :)
[12:49] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: Clever, eh? ;)
[12:49] <molqr> io well Dr_Willis's answer is what i had in mind
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> lhavelund:  never used wput.
[12:49] <lhavelund> Dr_Willis: Neither have I.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> well i will BBL. Take care
[12:50] <jpds> molqr: http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/lucid/release/
[12:50] <molqr> thanks jpds i will check that out..
[12:51] <klooluss> I have tried gparted. Wiped the existing partitions, told it to create a small FAT partition and a big ext4 one. It doesn't work: "An error occurred while applying the operations" and then it doesn't give any more detail.
[12:52] <ahmed_>  i installed aprogramme  with command java but i want to remove it how can ido?
[12:52] <normaluser> klooluss: is  the disk mounted anywere?
[12:52] <deever> setting up a openldap hdb database, i'm getting "additional info: olcDbDirectory: value #0: invalid path: Permission denied" although the permissions are sufficient. Debug output doesn't tell me more neither. What's the problem here?
[12:53] <klooluss> OK, I just found the error details: "Partition map has no partition map entry!"
[12:53] <jpds> molqr: Well, that's the DVD ISO for lucid, which should hold of of the "main" repo.
[12:54] <molqr> thanks jpds that is precisely what i was looking for :) .. the basic install + some other... the main use of this is for a computer which does not have a good internet connection
[12:55] <jpds> molqr: You might want to check http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/lucid/release/ubuntu-10.04-dvd-amd64.list first.
[12:56] <molqr> jpds, yes that is a good idea..  to get a list of software first...
[12:56] <klooluss> OK, tried again, now it says "mac disk labels do not support extended partitions."
[12:56] <neil_d> trying to get my laptop playing dvds I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and run the /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh script... but I still can't play a dvd :(  anyone know why?
[12:56] <dri245> first time after a reboot/start, when i get into a partition, i get a shortcut for it on my desktop. is there any way i can change this?
[12:57] <gfdr> hi everybody
[12:57] <klooluss> neil_d: Have you tried VLC? It plays just about anything, even when other media players don't work.
[12:58] <neil_d> klooluss: yes!   it doesn't do anything but resize its window a bit.
[12:58] <winterweaver> I installed docky, using the ricotz ppa, but this now causes conflicts with another app I require, which need a more standard python-gtk2-dev. I've removed the ppa, but the ricotz packages are still installed. can I savely remove them? and then reinstall? (libgtk) being the main one, without risk of damaging my system? I just want to replace his packages with the default packages
[12:59] <Fandekasp> hi
[13:00] <gfdr> hi
[13:01] <Fandekasp> How can I convert a video to the 3 following html5-compliant formats : ogg, mp4 and webm ? (I want to display something like that in my website : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/250402/) I've found HandBrake (but doesn't work now because of gnome), and Miro Video Converter (but not for linux). FFMpeg doesn't encode to these formats, and mencode encode only in mp4, but not in ogg or webm.
[13:01] <Fandekasp> Thank you for your help
[13:02] <Hady> can anyone help me with installing a wifi driver?
[13:03] <Hady> ???
[13:03] <trijntje> !patience | Hady
[13:04] <Hady> ok, but do YOU know the answer?
[13:05] <winterweaver> ubottu is a bot Hady :)
[13:05] <Hady> oh
[13:05] <trijntje> Hady, there is probably someone who can help you, if you give some more details someone might help
[13:05] <Hady> ok, i'm trying to install a wifi driver because my internet doesn't work, does anyone know how?
[13:05] <Hady> In ubuntu netbook remix
[13:06] <deever> setting up a openldap hdb database, i'm getting "additional info: olcDbDirectory: value #0: invalid path: Permission denied" although the permissions are sufficient. Debug output doesn't tell me more neither. What's the problem here?
[13:06] <trijntje> Hady, how are you trying to install that driver? via system -> administration -> hardware?
[13:06] <klooluss> OK, I think I got it. I had to click "device" and "create partition table" first. Then I was able to create an extended partition, and two partitions within that (one Fat32 and one Ext4)
[13:06] <Hady> i was trying to install it through terminal?
[13:06] <adminewb> Help please diagnosing a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where this rig was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message relating to "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise trying to boot LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system uses both MBR and GPT partitioned physical hard disks (again not a problem on older builds). All Linux volumes+swap are on
[13:07] <trijntje> Hady, please be more specific, what command did you use, where did you get the driver etc?
[13:08] <Hady> i got the driver from launchpad.net and i was using the command "sudo -i <filename>"
[13:08] <Hady> hold on
[13:09] <adminewb> does it occur to someone I may have better luck with another venue?
[13:10] <readytoact> 아아아
[13:11] <readytoact> 음음.. 한글잘나옴
[13:11] <tensorpudding> !ko | readytoact
[13:11] <readytoact> ubottu:  -_-..
[13:11] <slacker-> Hi, I just installed the netbook iso but I can't figure out how to set up multiple workspaces. any suggestions?
[13:12] <slacker-> I can't seem to add anythying to the menubar
[13:13] <jos001> is here any Chinese User who use Jolicloud OS
[13:13] <tensorpudding> there are chinese channels
[13:13] <tensorpudding> !cn
[13:13] <jos001> where
[13:14] <jos001> how to enter the channel
[13:14] <tensorpudding> jos001: /join
[13:14] <tensorpudding> so /join #ubuntu-cn, say
[13:14] <tensorpudding> but with no space in front of the /join
[13:14] <adminewb> slacker-, have you tried menu bar operations with other variations of ubuntu? i.e. not netbook remix
[13:15] <adminewb> just curious
[13:15] <slacker-> adminewb: yes, i've done if for years
[13:16] <adminewb> slacker-, would this be gnome?
[13:16] <slacker-> mostly, yes
[13:17] <adminewb> would there be special user docs for gnome on netbook?
[13:17] <jo0863> hi
[13:18] <MikeChelen> how can mplayer/mencoder be set to record from the correct microphone? /dev/dsp1 and /dev/audio1 are both using the wrong microphone, and no other options seem to work
[13:18] <maciek_> warszawa.ircnet.pl
[13:19] <baba> why is 64bit still not recomended?:
[13:20] <adminewb> Help please diagnosing a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where this rig was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message relating to "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise trying to boot LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system uses both MBR and GPT partitioned physical hard disks -- again not a problem on older 64 builds. All Linux volumes+swap ar
[13:20] <slacker-> adminewb: i've had a look around under 'help' is that what you mean? or google
[13:20] <erUSUL> baba: known and reported issue.
[13:21] <karlo> what is the best msn messenger ?
[13:21] <adminewb> slacker-, my thought was the built in help system, but googling at ubuntu.com may be useful too
[13:21] <erUSUL> !best > karlo
[13:21] <erUSUL> !msn
[13:21] <baba> erUSUL, ok, cuz i'm installing it in my virtualbox
[13:21] <baba> to use as a server
[13:21] <baba> and you recommend 32bit
[13:21] <karlo> ok, ok, ok
[13:22] <slacker-> adminewb: the built in help system crashes for half the results the search comes up with
[13:22] <erUSUL> karlo: amsn; emesene are also popular
[13:22] <klooluss> I have just formatted an external HD using gparted. I created a FAT32 partition and an ext partition. It seems I have no permissions over the ext4 one, I can't write anything to it! How do I change the permissions? Do I need some kind of sudo chmod command? Ubuntu Karmic 64bit.
[13:22] <karlo> ty
[13:23] <erUSUL> !addingfs
[13:23] <adminewb> slacker-, dreadful
[13:24] <klooluss> erUSUL: Thanks, but what does that mena? How do i fix it? It's an ext4 filesystem, that should support unix stuff, surely..?
[13:24] <magicianlord> klooluss: sudo chmod 777 <device name>
[13:24] <magicianlord> it will allow all to write to teh ext partitino
[13:25] <klooluss> magicianlord: Thanks. How do I find the devicename?
[13:25] <erUSUL> klooluss: yes; you make folders inside the partition and give apropiate permissions to those folders ( to create them use « sudo mkdir /media/whatever/foldername » )
[13:25] <slacker-> hm, might have to use the gconftool cli
[13:25] <magicianlord> klooluss: connect the drive, then in terminal type 'mount' and look for the partition you created . it should be /dev/sdb2 or something
[13:26] <jo0863> (I hope my english is god enaugh) When I had switched to "CTRL+ALT+F4 (for Example) and want to go back to X with using "ALT+F7" my ubuntu 10.04 freeze (On screen is the TTY an the cursor isn't blinking any more, CAPS-LED doesn't switch) Only ALT+SysReq+K brings me back to login-Screen on F8. Its a ATI Radeon 9200 SE. Any ideas?
[13:26] <MarkRich> Hello, I'm using the Gnome Search Tool on Utuntu 10.4 & so far doesn't seem to be able to search the contents of PDFs, Docs, or ODT files.  It does search for files with an extension of txt though.  Is there a way of doing this using Gnome Search?
[13:27] <adminewb> jo0863, sure you don't need CTRL+ALT+F7 to get your desktop again?
[13:27] <alien__> hi , i am having trouble burning dvd images in ubuntu 10.04 ..tried k3b and brasero ..please advise
[13:28] <slacker-> adminewb: alright, that worked
[13:28] <dri245> question: first time after a reboot/start, when i get into a partition, i get a shortcut for it on my desktop. is there any way i can change this?
[13:28] <jo0863> adminewb: CTRL+ALT+F7 also does not work.
[13:28] <adminewb> same misbehavior then i suppose
[13:28] <slacker-> now I have to find out how to add the workspace switcher app to the menu...
[13:29] <Slart> dri245: you mean remove the shortcut? sure.. open a terminal and run "gconf-editor" then click on Apps, nautilus, desktop .. there are now options on the right side for lots of desktop related things.. changes should take effect immediately when you change them, no ok button to press etc
[13:29] <MarkRich> Does anyone know if the Gnome Search Tool on Ubuntu 10.4 will search the contents of ODT, doc, or PDF files?
[13:29] <erUSUL> dri245: you do not want the partitions to show up in the desktop ?
[13:29] <dri245> trying now, Slart .
[13:30] <dri245> erUSUL,  yeah, when i go into a partition from the "Places" menu, i don't want them to show on my desktop after.
[13:30] <randyrkelly> question
[13:30] <erUSUL> dri245: well Slart guessed right and beat me to it ;P is the show volumes thing
[13:30] <dri245> :P
[13:30] <adminewb> slacker-, so your original trouble with gnome on netbook is resolved?
[13:30] <randyrkelly> how i update the kernel?/
[13:31] <slacker-> adminewb: one part is, yes
[13:31] <adminewb> :)
[13:31] <MarkRich> Hello everyone, will the Gnome Search Tool search the contents of doc, PDF, & ODT files?
[13:32] <yeastwars> is the indicator applet supposed to be in sync with evolution's status? I have one new email in one of my accounts, yet the envelope thing in the system tray still says 0
[13:32] <randyrkelly> hello and goodmornig
[13:32] <dri245> successful operation, thanks Slart  and erUSUL  :)
[13:32] <Slart> dri245: you're welcome
[13:32] <slacker-> adminewb: I just can't get to the panel context menu. I always end up in one of the applet's ones
[13:32] <randyrkelly> can someone please assist me?
[13:32] <deever> setting up a openldap hdb database, i'm getting "additional info: olcDbDirectory: value #0: invalid path: Permission denied" although the permissions are sufficient. Debug output doesn't tell me more neither. What's the problem here?
[13:33] <randyrkelly> deever, can u help
[13:33] <alien__> MArkrich : try beagle for search
[13:33] <adminewb> slacker-, you've tried right-clicking (whatever that means on netbook) on an unused part of a panel?
[13:34] <deever> randyrkelly: huh?
[13:34] <bobo123> Hi! I have a problem with firefox in ubuntu (10.04), it doesnt react on the ctrl-shift-D keyboard shortcut (Add bookmark for all the tabs).  I asked in #firefox and he say that ctrl-shift-D do work for him in Windows. So is it something that is destroyed in the linux/ubuntu version of firefox, or do ctrl-shift-D works for you?
[13:34] <slacker-> adminewb: there is no unused part. that's the problem
[13:34] <slacker-> the applets use it all up
[13:34] <adminewb> yar
[13:34] <randyrkelly> im trying to update my kernel deever
[13:35] <deever> randyrkelly: why are you doing this?
[13:35] <randyrkelly> it has been updated
[13:35] <Aiya> How do I make multiple screen and cubic action in ubuntu...
[13:35] <Aiya> :D
[13:36] <halvors> I get this message: /home/ss/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:36] <halvors> What should i do?
[13:36] <MarkRich> So the Gnome Search Tool can't search the contents of PDF or ODT files?
[13:36] <adminewb> slacker-, about all i can think of is to disable one of the applets for the moment to make room
[13:36] <alien__> any one having issues as me burning dvd  images in ubuntu
[13:37] <deever> halvors: where did you get that message?
[13:37] <pheonixman> hi
[13:37] <klooluss> fixed, thanks everyone.
[13:37] <Aiya> alien__: I wound suggest you to use virtual drive to install ubuntu.You want to install into your PC?
[13:38] <randyrkelly> so can i install the new kernel?
[13:38] <Aiya> How do I make multiple screen and cubic action in ubuntu after enable the select extra in effect option.I need guideline
[13:38] <jaik> Hi Ubuntuusers - could you tell me which directory from $PATH I use for self-written programs - I know, I could use every directory - but which directory IS USED most common by ubuntuusers?
[13:38] <slacker-> adminewb: window-picker-applet autoscales and uses up all free space. And right clicking on it doesn't provide a 'close' button. I might have to kill it and hope it'll come back next time I log on
[13:38] <MarkRich> OK, so the Gnome Search Tool is unable to search the contents of ODT & PDFs.
[13:39] <deever> randyrkelly: what the hell are you trying to do? kernel updates are distributed regularly over the normal system software update mechanism...just don't bother about it
[13:39] <sburjan> hello. can someone tell me how can I change the bootd order options from Grub 2 ? (10.04)
[13:39] <daniel_b_> hi! After updating to a newer kernel, my wireless module does not work anymore... Is there a chance to downgrade to the kernel on disk manually (via apt-get?) .. 2.) Is it possible to update to the Maverick kernel?
[13:40] <halvors> deever: WHen run BF2 Server.
[13:40] <anon__> Hey guys
[13:40] <halvors> Start.sh
[13:40] <alien__> Aiya: i have already installed ubuntu ....but in ubuntu iam not able to burn dvd isos
[13:40] <anon__> I need help quickly
[13:40] <anon__> I installed some updates
[13:40] <halvors> i only need that lib
[13:40] <anon__> A window popped up, asking me to install grub-pc, should i install it?
[13:40] <adminewb> Help please diagnosing a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where this rig was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message relating to "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise trying to boot LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system uses both MBR and GPT partitioned physical hard disks -- again not a problem on older 64 builds. All Linux volumes+swap ar
[13:40] <anon__> !grub
[13:40] <randyrkelly> ok thanks hey im a noob. i seen there is a new kernel and was asking  deever
[13:40] <slacker-> adminewb: ah.. the panel doesn't allow adding anything to it. "Add to panel" is not clickable
[13:40] <alien__> Mark Rich: I guess u can try google desktop for linux ?
[13:41] <Aiya> alien__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto you can check at here
[13:41] <anon__> I updated some stuff in the update manager, a window popped up, asking me to install grub-pc, should i install it?
[13:41] <adminewb> slacker-, for weird
[13:41] <halvors> Anyone know how to fix this: I get this message: /home/ss/bf2/bin/ia-32/bf2: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ?
[13:41] <halvors> deever. ?
[13:41] <halvors> deever: ?
[13:42] <slacker-> adminewb: maybe that's a 'feature' of the netbook edition
[13:42] <adminewb> must be so
[13:42] <slacker-> bit disturbing
[13:42] <anon__> I updated some stuff in the update manager, a window popped up, asking me to install grub-pc, should i install it?
[13:42] <halvors> Where can i find log from this channel?
[13:42] <slacker-> ah well, maybe I can work out how to add a applet using gconftool...
[13:42] <adminewb> slacker-, you have just 1 panel, rather than top+bottom?
[13:42] <anon__> I updated some stuff in the update manager, a window popped up, asking me to install grub-pc, should i install it?
[13:43] <slacker-> adminewb: no bottom panel
[13:43] <deever> halvors: ah, and from your home directory
[13:43] <slacker-> adminewb: there's something like a panel on the left but it doesn't have a context meny
[13:43] <deever> halvors: ?
[13:43] <anon__> slacker-, I updated some stuff in the update manager, a window popped up, asking me to install grub-pc, should i install it?
[13:43] <adminewb> slacker-, bottom panel is only place i ever see the workspace selector
[13:44] <cesc> hi there. How to know which version of kernel is installed in your ubuntu distro?
[13:44] <slacker-> anon__: sure ...
[13:44] <zhw> hello
[13:44] <alien__> Aiya: thanks .. iam doing the same procedure in k3 b or brasero ...there is only problem burning dvd images :-( looks like there might be a bug or sdetting that iam not aware of
[13:44] <tensorpudding> cesc: uname -r
[13:44] <anon__> Okay slacker-
[13:44] <slacker-> adminewb: yeah, on the normal desktop config it does that per default
[13:44] <razz1> what is the best way to control a vista system from ubuntu
[13:44] <tensorpudding> razz1: control?
[13:44] <adminewb> cesc, try the system monitor for gnome, it has a property sheet showing which kernel you booted
[13:44] <slacker-> hm, more googling
[13:44] <razz1> like vnc
[13:44] <tensorpudding> razz1: there is remote desktop
[13:45] <tensorpudding> razz1: the rdesktop program can connect to windows machines using that protocol
[13:45] <tensorpudding> there is also vnc servers for windows
[13:45] <tensorpudding> and vnc clients
[13:45] <alien__> razz1 : rdp /vnc clients are there in ubunt
[13:45] <ranjan> how to use laptops webcam with empathy??
[13:45] <tensorpudding> ubuntu has vinagre, and you can install tightvnc or realvnc server on windows
[13:45] <cesc> how to get out of terminal windows without closing it ....... after man anycommand... ?
[13:45] <mun_> hi
[13:46] <N9NU> does anyone know of a program that will allow me to print off an image that is much larger than a single piece of paper? I want to print it on 4 sheets...with each containing 1/4 of the image
[13:46] <pheonixman> hi guys, i wanna know what are the widgets options available for gnome..?
[13:46] <mun_> does anyone know of a good battery status applet?
[13:46] <sylvain> Hi everyone
[13:46] <tensorpudding> cesc: hitting q will close man
[13:46] <razz1> tensorpudding: rdp is not secure is it? will try tightvnc/realvnc, which one should I try first, and what about security
[13:46] <cesc> thanks tensorpudding
[13:46] <Guest66704> someone knows about "Emmanuel Fleury" here ?
[13:46] <tensorpudding> neither rdb nor vnc are secure
[13:47] <tyler_d> razz1: I have used realvnc the past 5 years and find it extremely easy to use and secure.
[13:47] <tensorpudding> vnc can be protected through ssh tunneling, though good luck installing an ssh server on windows
[13:47] <slacker-> adminewb: oh dear, ubuntuforums suggests installing ubuntu-desktop and logging in to gnome, change the panel there and log back into the netbook wm
[13:47] <tensorpudding> there is some encryption available on a few vnc servers
[13:47] <tensorpudding> but not all clients take advantage of it
[13:48] <razz1> tensorpudding: I am using hamachi vpn, so I guess it really doesnot matter. but I just want ot know whether rdp or vnc was better, vnc seems to be the choice
[13:48] <denny> I'm having trouble getting xinerama working, where's the best place to post my conf and logs and ask for help?
[13:48] <cesc> how to change GRUB list order?
[13:48] <bobo123> if there are anyone that is using firefox here, he could perhaps try press ctrl-shift-D and say if it works for him?
[13:48] <Confuzius> if I want to move a harddrive full of media from an ubuntu desktop to an ubuntu server do I need to do anything special, or just swap the disk from one to the next?
[13:48] <alien__> thanks guys ..bye
[13:48] <tyler_d> bobo123: didn't do anything
[13:49] <tensorpudding> Confuzius: they use the same filesystems, it is just a matter of copying
[13:49] <tyler_d> Confuzius: back it up
[13:49] <randyrkelly> how i install a bin file?
[13:49] <Confuzius> im talking about moving a physical drive
[13:49] <N9NU> Confuzius: according to your past life, your suppose to be far more knowledgeable than any of us :)
[13:50] <abhijit> randyrkelly, first make it executable chmod +x ./filenam.bin and then do ./filenam.bin
[13:50] <razz1> tensorpudding: tyler_d: or should I just use vistas built in rdp server inside vpn
[13:50] <tensorpudding> Confuzius: moving a physical drive depends heavily on hardware, not software
[13:50] <tyler_d> randyrkelly: from a terminal you need to cd to the correct dir then do ./thisisthebinfile.bin ( possibly a chmod +x thisisthebinfile.bin) first
[13:50] <bobo123> tyler_d: ok. it is supposed to bookmark all tabs, and do work in Windows.
[13:51] <quibbler> randyrkelly-> look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233309
[13:51] <tyler_d> razz1: I would go ahead and simply do this, rdp is just slow, you have already sort of botched security(though I do love hamachi) so yah, do it
[13:51] <Confuzius> I understand how it works hardware wise, but do i need to unmount the drive before i turn off the computer or will it just sort itself out when it boots up and finds no drive anymore?
[13:51] <cesc> when I switch my pc on... I have the choice to select either ubuntu or windows... among other options on GRUB. How do I sort all this options so windows doesn't appear at the bottom?
[13:51] <Kieran> hey
[13:51] <adminewb> Help please diagnosing a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where this rig was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message relating to "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise trying to boot LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system uses both MBR and GPT partitioned physical hard disks -- again not a problem on older 64 builds. All Linux volumes+swap ar
[13:51] <Kieran> i'd like to wipe a external hdd for selling using ubuntu, idea's?
[13:51] <abhijit> cesc, you cand edit that but if windows dont apper how will you select it?
[13:51] <ryrych> I have a problem with pinning: http://pastie.org/1093693
[13:52] <N9NU> cesc: edit your /boot/grub/menu.1st file. It might be in /grub/ as well
[13:52] <randyrkelly> said could not find package
[13:52] <tensorpudding> Confuzius: if you remove a drive from the computer you need to remove the /etc/fstab entries that mount any filesystems on it
[13:52] <cesc> thanks N9NU
[13:52] <deever> anyone here running a slapd?
[13:52] <razz1> tyler_d: what do you mean by "you have already sort of botched security", i hope i haven't done anything stupid!!
[13:52] <abhijit> randyrkelly, you first need to go the the folder in which the file is using cd.
[13:52] <Confuzius> tensorpudding, thanks
[13:52] <tyler_d> Confuzius: it will sort that portion out on the old machine, we will assume your using ext2 or ext 3 on both... you may have to muck with the server and /etc/fstab to get it to automagically mount it on the server
[13:52] <Kieran> anyone please
[13:53] <tyler_d> razz1: hamachi isn't optimal for security is all I was trying to say. Should be fine :D
[13:53] <abhijit> Kieran, shred and wipe
[13:53] <ryrych> Kieran: shred
[13:53] <tensorpudding> Kieran: you can use the good old dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hard-drive
[13:53] <ryrych> Kierad: but take into account it's a long process
[13:53] <Kieran> shred?
[13:54] <N9NU> xfer to a nice 500GB SSD - They are cheaper now - $1500
[13:54] <tyler_d> lol
[13:54] <abhijit> Kieran, http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_shred.htm
[13:54] <ryrych> can anyone help me?
[13:54] <tyler_d> with?
[13:54] <N9NU> i have my old stack of 8" floppys if you need a few
[13:55] <razz1> tyler_d: have you read somewhere about any loopholes or exploits or is it just a hunch. I can set up a ssh connection but hamachi is so easy
[13:55] <deever> anyone here running a slapd? the initial hdb database isn't created here and it doesn't let me create it on my own afterwards...:(
[13:55] <slacker-> adminewb: I think I might just use the GNOME session rather than the netbook one
[13:55] <Aiya> How do I make cubic effect?
[13:55] <ryrych> was above: I have a problem with pinning: http://pastie.org/1093693
[13:55] <trijntje> !compiz | Aiya
[13:55] <cesc> another question: when you go to Update Manager and it tells you there is # updates available ..... it checks what you have and then if there is a newer version available it will tell you so... and should I select all the updates and install them... what I mean.. it shows you only updates for things you already have?
[13:55] <tensorpudding> ryrych: there is probably more people on #debian who know about pinning than on here
[13:56] <tyler_d> razz1: just on the pretence that its now closed source, though I do like the concept would like more information on it I guess is my opinion.
[13:56] <bazhang> cesc, correct
[13:56] <Aiya> trijntje: Thanks
[13:56] <N9NU> Aiya: Hit CTRL+F12
[13:56] <N9NU> see what happens
[13:56] <cesc> thanks bazhang.
[13:57] <razz1> tyler_d: had me worried there for a second
[13:57] <tyler_d> ryrych: I'm sorry I know nothing of "Pinning"
[13:57] <Kieran> just looking for a util to wipe my external usb hard drive for gnome/ubuntu, anyone please? TIA :))
[13:57] <cesc> because I just installed xubuntu and the first time update manager has detected 172 updates to install.
[13:57] <cesc> :)
[13:57] <trijntje> N9NU, what should that do?
[13:57] <abhijit> Kieran, i told you already.
[13:57] <Kieran> ok..
[13:58] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto ryrych this?
[13:58] <tyler_d> Kieran: gparted, or system-->disk-utility
[13:58] <abhijit> Kieran, you got me msg or lost it?
[13:58] <N9NU> its the default for compiz cube
[13:58] <Kieran> who would i use shred to wipe hd?
[13:58] <N9NU> at least it used to be....it is for mine
[13:58] <bazhang> Kieran, secure deletion
[13:59] <bazhang> Kieran, you can read the manual for it by typing in a terminal man shred
[13:59] <ryrych> bazhang: I know this howto but It didn't help me
[13:59] <ryrych> on #Debian they only supports Debian
[13:59] <razz1> tyler_d: realvnc or tightvnc whichone is easier for the other person to setup, he is not very computer literate
[13:59] <ryrych> as they said me
[13:59] <tyler_d> realvnc
[13:59] <bazhang> ryrych, then ask a clearer question
[13:59] <N9NU> running 'compiz-manager' will pull up the motherload of options for you
[13:59] <razz1> tyler_d: ok realvnc then
[13:59] <razz1> tyler_d: thanks mate
[13:59] <tyler_d> razz1: :) np
[14:00] <ryrych> bazhang: but the pasted output tells everything
[14:00] <Kieran> lookinh at it now, only deletes shreds files, not wiping HD - still learning ubuntu/debian lol
[14:00] <KukuNut> Kieran: when you install just select 'format' and all data would be wiped out
[14:00] <Kieran> format can be recoverable
[14:00] <bazhang> Kieran, it has different options, such as overwriting once deleted
[14:00] <Kieran> ok
[14:01] <slacker-> adminewb: thanks for your help
[14:01] <Kieran> cheers all
[14:01] <randyrkelly> abhijit, sudo .so its  in my download folder
[14:01] <Kieran> external hdd going redundant so looking into selling - need ca$h lol
[14:01] <abhijit> randyrkelly, but you asked about .bin file?
[14:02] <randyrkelly> yes
[14:02] <N9NU> you sell?
[14:02] <abhijit> randyrkelly, then? i dont know about .so file.
[14:02] <N9NU> I buy
[14:02] <Kieran> 1 think i like about ubuntu, its community - do all aggree?? :)
[14:02] <randyrkelly> i tried those steps ad says no diresctory
[14:02] <abhijit> Kieran, yes.
[14:03] <Kieran> im sleeing, not straight away
[14:03] <Kieran> UK only sorry
[14:03] <Kieran> going to try locally, then natianly
[14:03] <neil_d> trying to get my laptop playing dvds I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and run the /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh script... but I still can't play a dvd :( ... I keep getting the error ... Error cracking CSS key for etc. ... anyone know why?
[14:03] <N9NU> do all use Gee-Knowm or KDE?
[14:03] <bazhang> !ot
[14:04] <Kieran> using gnome here
[14:04] <razz1> tyler_d: realvnc free edition is not available for vista -http://www.realvnc.com/products/download.html
[14:04] <DasEi> neil_d: try vlc player first, and check :
[14:04] <DasEi> !medibuntu
[14:05] <JackomoLight> anyone knows how to set up my Wireless on backtrack 4?
[14:05] <DasEi> neil_d: sudo apt-get install vlc
[14:05] <Kieran> getting scrambled plymouth when shutting down, is there a quick fix for this??
[14:06] <bazhang> !backtrack | JackomoLight
[14:06] <DasEi> JackomoLight: no bt support here, but :
[14:06] <Kieran> still shuts down but unsightly lol
[14:06] <DasEi> !wireless > JackomoLight
[14:06] <YankDownUnder> Kieran, Find out your proper video modes and edit the /etc/default/grub - re-run update-grub when you're done.
[14:06] <Kieran> ok cheers
[14:07] <Kieran> cheers all again :D
[14:07] <razz1> can anybody correct me if  Ia mwrong, realvnc cannot be used for free on vista?
[14:08] <adminewb> Help please diagnosing a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where this rig was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message relating to "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise trying to boot LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system uses both MBR and GPT partitioned physical hard disks -- again not a problem on older 64 builds. All Linux volumes+swap ar
[14:08] <DasEi> razz1: new to me , ask in #win, tightvnc and ultravnc are free
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:09] <neil_d> DasEi: vlc gives the same error when run from the terminal.
[14:09] <razz1> DasEi: tightvnc or ultravnc - which one is easier to setup
[14:09] <pheonixman> hi, is there any alternatives for screenlets or gesklets in ubuntu..?
[14:09] <frenk> ciao a tt
[14:09] <YankDownUnder> pheonixman, You can use Cairo-Dock and "detach" the applets.
[14:10] <logos_> does anyone here uses anjuta?
[14:10] <DasEi> razz1: tightvnc , assuming ubu-vista
[14:11] <razz1> DasEi: yes
[14:11] <razz1> thankyou
[14:11] <prizm> Why is SeaMonkey crashing?
[14:11] <DasEi> neil_d: pastebin the errormesage from trml ?
[14:11] <DasEi> !paste > neil_d
[14:12] <prizm> Sometimes, all of a sudden the window just disappears instantly, and the process terminates itself
[14:12] <N9NU> cause monkeys dont like water
[14:12] <prizm> I get XID conflict errors if I run SeaMonkey in terminal
[14:13] <daniel_b_> hi! where can i download Ubuntu Maverick?
[14:13] <prizm> Incase you're wondering, it's the AMD64 built of SeaMonkey 2.0.5 from ubuntu repos
[14:14] <oCean_> daniel_b_: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha3, but remember, discussion/support is in #ubuntu+1
[14:14] <DasEi> razz1: apt-cache search tightvnc list the needed packages
[14:14] <adminewb> Help please diagnosing a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where this rig was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message relating to "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise trying to boot LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system uses both MBR and GPT partitioned physical hard disks -- again not a problem on older 64 builds. All Linux volumes+swap ar
[14:14] <daniel_b_> oCean_: thanks;)
[14:16] <razz1> DasEi: ubuntu is on the client side and vista on server side, setting up tightvnc server on vista, we are inside a VPN not really worried about ssh. Are there any security gotchas that I need to be aware of?
[14:16] <DyNAmiC_BoaT_FAI> hey, so KlamAV found some virsus's on an external hd using the live cd but when i try to quaratine them I wasn't able to I got error about checking your diskspace/permissions so I decided to run it via cli with clamav but it didn't find any virsus's... is this normal?
[14:16] <tensorpudding> even if you're on a vpn, you still might have to worry about password sniffing
[14:16]  * YankDownUnder thinks that "Vista" and "security" shouldn't be in the same sentence
[14:16] <tensorpudding> if there is anyone you don't trust on your VPN
[14:17] <DJmart> boot them off
[14:17] <YankDownUnder> DyNAmiC_BoaT_FAI, run with either sudo or as root
[14:18] <logos_> What IDE do you recommend for C developing?
[14:18] <DyNAmiC_BoaT_FAI> YankDownUnder: I ran clamav as sudo, but it didn't find any virus's. How would I run the gui KlamAV as sudo, and should i since clamav didn't find any with the cli
[14:18] <DyNAmiC_BoaT_FAI> ?
[14:18] <Daekdroom> DyNAmiC_BoaT_FAI, the GUI shouldn't do anything the CLI doesn't
[14:18] <tensorpudding> logos_: try geany
[14:18] <prizm> If you want to try though, it's kdesu klamav or gksu clamav
[14:19] <YankDownUnder> DyNAmiC_BoaT_FAI, It would appear as though it's already cleaned the bugs mate. However, this would be something to ask the Clamav folks...
[14:19] <prizm> sudo won't work on X apps for me
[14:19] <DasEi> razz1: not that I new on a protected internal network
[14:19] <logos_> tensorpudding I'll try. U know Ajunta? I liked it.
[14:20] <tensorpudding> no
[14:20] <tensorpudding> i don't actually use geany personally either
[14:20] <tensorpudding> i tried it once and it seemed suitably decent
[14:20] <razz1> DasEi: ok
[14:20] <logos_> tensor, im using ti right now, very clean and simple. Nice!
[14:20] <logos_> tensorpudding im using ti right now, very clean and simple. Nice!
[14:21] <adminewb> is there somewhere I should be seeking help in preference to here?
[14:22] <lostintime> hi, if I have a server setup with a bunch of accounts and I want to duplicate the accounts on another server, can I just copy the home directory, /etc/passwd and shadow?
[14:22] <adminewb> Help please diagnosing a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where this rig was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message relating to "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise trying to boot LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system uses both MBR and GPT partitioned physical hard disks -- again not a problem on older 64 builds. All Linux volumes+swap ar
[14:23] <adminewb> lostintime, /etc/group goes along with passwd no?
[14:25] <digifor> I am having problems with VLC and Movie Player crashing when I try to use full screen.
[14:25] <abhijit> hmm
[14:25] <digifor> Video card is VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7300 GT] (rev a1)
[14:26] <digifor> What is the best way for me to trouble shoot this?
[14:29] <DasEi> digifor: what trouble does it ?
[14:30] <copymo> good os
[14:31] <MjellowToYou> Is it possible to install Ubuntu from a USB-drive?
[14:31] <aeon-ltd> MjellowToYou: yes
[14:31] <adminewb> Help please diagnosing a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where this rig was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message relating to "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise trying to boot LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system uses both MBR and GPT partitioned physical hard disks -- again not a problem on older 64 builds. All Linux volumes+swap ar
[14:32] <abhijit> !usb | MjellowToYou
[14:32] <lostintime> adminewb: yep, that too.  Should that be sufficient?  Would passwords remain the same if I copy /etc/shadow?
[14:33] <MjellowToYou> Thanks, I'll se if that help me
[14:33] <kn100> I've added my ext4 disk to fstab, it mounts fine, and I can modify/delete/create/execute files from the disk from nautilus and the terminal as the user
[14:33] <adminewb> lostintime yes I'd expect so but haven't tried it
[14:33] <kn100> but transmission gives me permission denied
[14:33] <rek> hello,should i open some ports in my router if i want to access to my windows printer?
[14:33] <lostintime> adminewb: same for me :)  Okay thank you!
[14:33] <kn100> and I can not for the life of me figure out why
[14:34] <kn100> Can anyone help?
[14:34] <abhijit> !printer | rek
[14:35] <digifor> DasEi, basically it crashes when I play .avi at full screen
[14:35] <DasEi> not getting by here, trying to VBoxMange, goal is change identifier of a vdi, Vbox is displaying setup vdi's fine (the GUI) , VBoxManage list vms  returns nothing (??), and even in same folder the vdi is in, it's not found..
[14:35] <DasEi> wrong tab , sorry
[14:35] <digifor> or I get sound with a frozen picture
[14:36] <tsmall> can anybody here help me fix the wifi on my macbook?
[14:36] <abhijit> !wifi | tsmall
[14:36] <DasEi> digifor: system > hardwaredrivers, driver installed ?
[14:36] <rek> what abhij
[14:36] <tsmall> ubottu: thanks, i'll take a look there
[14:36] <kn100> Why does transmission return permission denied whereas I can modify files as the user in nautilus?
[14:37] <pp__> ?
[14:37] <kn100> I added a hard disk to my system, added it to fstab with the following line
[14:37] <kn100> /dev/sda5                                   /media/Data     ext4   defaults               0 1
[14:37] <e-meditator> Hello, i've lost connectivity to internet on Ubuntu 10.04.However I have VMware (XP) installed and internet/network works on that. I'm a newbie with Linux. Could somone help please?
[14:37] <Saevar> kn100, what about permision to /media/Data directory ?
[14:37] <kn100> it mounts fine, I can modify/delete/create files with nautilus
[14:38] <kn100> Saevar, I've chowned it
[14:38] <digifor> DasEi, nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version current) [reccommended]
[14:38] <Saevar> kn100, permissions ?
[14:38] <kn100> Saevar, but I can edit files on the disk fine from nautilus with no special permissions
[14:38] <N9NU> add:  -o rw to the options in the fstab line
[14:38] <digifor> Activated and in use
[14:38] <kn100> but transmission returns permision denied for the disk
[14:38] <kn100> N9NU, I'll try that
[14:38] <DasEi> digifor: so it is installed, all packages up to date ?
[14:38] <lelle> is there a way to install windows from ubuntu? like wubi but reverse
[14:39] <DasEi> digifor: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:39] <digifor> DasEi, I am a paranoid patcher
[14:39] <Saevar> kn100, you know about permission inheritance do u ?
[14:39] <N9NU> oh my
[14:39] <kn100> Saevar, Not a lot
[14:39] <digifor> done once a day
[14:39] <kn100> I know a little about the permissions system
[14:39] <DasEi> digifor: what app you use to play avi's ?
[14:39] <Saevar> look on permissions on /media directory
[14:39] <k23> lelle, virtualbox
[14:39] <Saevar> kn100, look on permissions on /media directory
[14:39] <e-meditator> lelle, you could use VMware
[14:40] <kn100> N9NU, just tells me that that line is bad
[14:40] <kn100> is the space necessary?
[14:40] <lelle> k23: e-meditator will it make my wireless functioning? ...... no
[14:40] <digifor> DasEi, usually vlc or Movie Player
[14:40] <N9NU> where did you put it
[14:40] <kn100> In options
[14:40] <N9NU> shoud be like this
[14:40] <kn100> /dev/sda5                                   /media/Data     ext4   -o rw                 0 1
[14:41] <N9NU> ok thats fine
[14:41] <N9NU> lemme check sumthin
[14:41] <N9NU> is this external USB
[14:41] <Saevar> N9NU, he said he added...not connected from external :P
[14:41] <digifor> Computer is a 24 inch iMac
[14:41] <DasEi> digifor: start vlc from trml and watch an avi, afterwards the freeze check it's otput there and look also in /var/log/syslog and messages ;; I assume enough ram, not oc'ed to a limit and harddrive not full, there should be additional info
[14:41] <erUSUL> kn100: drop the -o and instead of "rw" put  "defaults"
[14:41] <N9NU> woops. my bad
[14:41] <erUSUL> !fstab
[14:41] <Saevar> kn100, what are permissions on /media
[14:42] <N9NU> is mine  /dev/sdb4 /media/zip auto umask=0,user,iocharset=utf8,noauto,flush,user_xattr,exec,-o\040rw 0 0
[14:42] <kn100> Saevar, drwxr-xr-x   4 root  root     4096 2010-08-15 13:23 media
[14:42] <Saevar> kn100, try chmod 777 /media
[14:42] <kn100> drwxrwxrwx 17 kn100 kn100 4096 2010-08-15 14:21 Data
[14:42] <N9NU> -Rf
[14:43] <N9NU> if data is in /media
[14:43] <kn100> It is
[14:43] <Saevar> N9NU, this seems to be more permissions inheritance
[14:43] <kn100> I've set it to recursive just in case
[14:43] <N9NU> oh your just modding the folder
[14:43] <e-meditator> lelle, it could - there is an option in it when you connect , whether you want to use bridged connection NAT etc.. so if you choose bridged connection then you could connect directly through it. Just that i dont know if ubuntu can share the connection from that.
[14:43] <Saevar> N9NU, i thought, but he modded everything under :P
[14:43] <N9NU> kewl beans
[14:44] <digifor> I have 17.5GB free hardware space
[14:44] <N9NU> if all else fails: Run as ROOT 24/7 baby :)
[14:45] <N9NU> do you have: user_xattr in the fstab entry as well?
[14:45] <Saevar> kn100, i thing add ,user to fstab
[14:46] <kn100> done that
[14:46] <kn100> chown'd media
[14:46] <kn100> drwxrwxrwx   4 kn100 kn100    4096 2010-08-15 13:23 media
[14:46] <Saevar> hm that wasn't so smart but if u want
[14:46] <Saevar> try now
[14:46] <kn100> It's not the most security concious thing but I don't really care xD
[14:47] <kn100> YAY
[14:47] <kn100> its working
[14:47] <kn100> finally
[14:47] <kn100> I can download stuff!
[14:47] <Saevar> :P
[14:47] <FloodBot3> kn100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <kn100> Thanks Saevar!
[14:47] <N9NU> yeah...afterall, ROOT is a User :)
[14:47] <kn100> (and anyone else, N9NU etc)
[14:47] <Saevar> kn100, youre welcome
[14:47] <kn100> Thanks all :D
[14:47] <N9NU> ill send you the bill
[14:48] <jaik> Hello Ubuntuusers - could somebody tell me, why this Command doesn't work: if [`test mocp -U` == 0]; then echo "PAUSE"; else echo "RUN"; fi;
[14:48] <N9NU> I take IOU's - valid for 100 years
[14:48] <Saevar> N9NU, root is user that's true :P but some daemons need /media as root as he will see  after restart :P
[14:48] <N9NU> :)
[14:48] <e-meditator> i've lost internet on Ubuntu 10.04. However I can still access the net from VMware (XP). Could someone please help me with configuring internet on ubuntu? thanks :)
[14:48] <Saevar> jaik, what the hell is mocp ?
[14:48] <jaik> Saevar: MOCP is an audio player
[14:48] <Saevar> jaik, ahso
[14:49] <erUSUL> jaik: probably lack of spaces around [ ]
[14:49] <N9NU> i heard from BIll Gate's wife that he is microsoft in bed as well.
[14:49] <erUSUL> jaik: also if you are in bash use [[ ]]
[14:49] <digifor> I have two gig of ram.
[14:49] <abhijit> !language | N9NU
[14:49] <abhijit> !ot | N9NU
[14:50] <N9NU> language? change your triggers
[14:50] <digifor> DasEi, I can't see any references to vlc in messages or syslog
[14:50] <jaik> Saevar: That doesn't work either: if [[`test mocp -P` != 0 ]]; then echo "PAUSE"; else echo "RUN"; fi;
[14:50] <N9NU> but i will respect this channels rules
[14:50] <jaik> Saevar: bash: test: mocp: unary operator expected
[14:51] <Saevar> jaik, hm....
[14:51] <Saevar> jaik, i think [] is command test himself
[14:52] <Saevar> jaik, if i remeber bash correctly
[14:52] <Saevar> i'm using tcsh :P
[14:52] <DasEi> digifor: what does happen , if the freeze occurs, is just vlc not playing on or does the whole desktop freeze ?
[14:53] <RafterX> how do I mount my USB-pen attached?
[14:53] <RafterX> cannot find it in /dev/*
[14:53] <joschi> Saevar, jaik: /usr/bin/[: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[14:53] <jaik> Saevar: Now I tried that: if [ `test 'mocp -P'` == 0 ]; then echo "PAUSE"; else echo "RUN"; fi;  // answer: bash: [: ==: unary operator expected // RUN
[14:53] <joschi> jaik: leave out the test
[14:53] <molqr> RafterX, does tail | dmesg show it detected?
[14:53] <RafterX> molqr: sec..
[14:54] <erUSUL> RafterX: do « tailf /var/log/messages » in a terminal and plug the usb-pen
[14:54] <N9NU> mount -t <fs> /media
[14:54] <N9NU> use /media/xxxx instead
[14:55] <baba> ubuntu releases happen in august or october?
[14:55] <asg> april and october
[14:55] <erUSUL> baba: october and april
[14:55] <N9NU> i keep forgetting this is Ubuntu. I use another  distro
[14:55] <baba> k
[14:55] <baba> cool
[14:55] <baba> anyone using ubuntu on vbox?
[14:55] <baba> i was wondering about setting up a servr
[14:55] <baba> for webdevg
[14:55] <baba> webdev
[14:56] <joschi> baba: yes
[14:57] <erUSUL> !enter > baba
[14:58] <baba> joschi, what do you use as a serveR?
[14:58] <joschi> baba: web server?
[14:58] <RafterX> my USB: usb 2-2.3: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[14:58] <baba> joschi, yes
[14:58] <vesh> hi there i have 10.0.4 live and want to revert from 10.10 to 10.0.4. on startup its not booting the cd for the install - any ideas
[14:58] <baba> i used to use xampp on windows
[14:59] <e-meditator> when i do  "sudo route add -net 192.168.100.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0" i get an error "route: netmask doesn't match route address" .... any help?
[14:59] <joschi> baba: just run `sudo tasksel install lamp-server`.
[14:59] <N9NU> mount -t <your fs> /media/usb-key2/ /whatever/whatever
[15:00] <baba> joschi, will lamp work with django?
[15:00] <N9NU> 255.255.0.0
[15:00] <RafterX> erUSUL: thanks :) Found it :)
[15:00] <erUSUL> RafterX: no problem
[15:00] <Bubujow> hi all
[15:00] <joschi> baba: as long as you configure it, yes
[15:01] <baba> joschi, is it difficult to configure?
[15:01] <e-meditator> N9NU: tried that.. same error
[15:01] <digifor> Only vlc crashes
[15:01] <joschi> baba: e.g. with mod_wsgi or mod_fcgid or mod_python
[15:01] <joschi> baba: depends on what you find difficult
[15:01] <joschi> baba: just try it
[15:01] <joschi> baba: it's a VM after all and you can start over if you break it ;)
[15:01] <digifor> DasEi, When the vlc's picture locks I still get sound
[15:02] <erUSUL> !lamp | baba
[15:02] <digifor> or it just crashes. Rest of the desktop is normal
[15:02] <Bubujow> m trying to install packages offline but i have a lot of dependencies and those have their own dependencies as well...what can i do to ease the pain ?
[15:02] <N9NU> is ur private LAN using 192.168.100.x ?
[15:02] <erUSUL> !offline
[15:02] <e-meditator> N9NU: yes
[15:02] <DasEi> digifor: does the pc become inresponsive ?
[15:02] <dri245> i installed a game, katalyst, but i don't know where it put it. any idea how to find out?
[15:02] <dri245> it's not in the applications menu
[15:02] <N9NU> hang on checking
[15:03] <e-meditator> i can access the network, its just the internet that is the problem.. i guess this must be because of the route?
[15:03] <e-meditator> thanks
[15:03] <erUSUL> dri245: try « alt + f2 » run katalyst
[15:03] <N9NU> dri245: run 'update-menus' if using KDE
[15:03] <coz_> dri245,   do you have a link for that  ?
[15:03] <DasEi> dri245: use find or locate after sudo updatedb
[15:03] <erUSUL> dri245: or « dpkg -L | grep bin »
[15:03] <dri245> ok thanks, will try
[15:03] <erUSUL> dri245: or « dpkg -L katalystpackagename | grep bin »
[15:03] <Rogue1> Hiya, can anyone help diagnose a freezing Ubuntu install?
[15:03] <N9NU> whats your gateway
[15:04] <e-meditator> 192.168.100.2
[15:04] <N9NU> i mean is your WAN gateway set right
[15:04] <coz_> Rogue1, is it a system freeze?
[15:04] <DasEi> digifor: ?
[15:04] <N9NU> from your Eye Es Pea
[15:04] <vesh> i have 10.0.4 cd and its does not boot up for an istall can i run it any other way
[15:04] <lelle> !enter
[15:04] <coz_> Rogue1,  which video card do you have on that machine?
[15:05] <lelle> !enter > lelle
[15:05] <e-meditator> yes.. it must be.. coz i'm accessing the net right now from the same machine.. through VMware using XP..
[15:05] <oCean_> N9NU: when talking to someone in particular, please start a line with that person's nick
[15:05] <coz_> Rogue1,  are you still here??
[15:05] <N9NU> my bad...im not used to 1400 people in IRC....i use Mandriva :( and we have 100
[15:06] <coz_> N9NU, :)
[15:06] <N9NU> heh
[15:06] <Rob14> Hello =)
[15:06] <digifor> DasEi, I was reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1058836&highlight=vlc+crash+fullscreen+avi
[15:06] <Rogue1> coz_: built-in card on the motherboard - which is a Rocky-4784EV... had to downgrade my install distro to 9.04 before I had a successful install (problems with blinking underscores). Now I've got 9.04, and managed to get all the updates (last time it froze), I am unable to upgrade to 9.10 - everything freezes, not evenkbormouser`espond
[15:06] <coz_> Rob14,  welcome
[15:06] <DasEi> digifor: It's a little nervy if you response takes such a long time, could you please answer to my questions ?
[15:07] <coz_> Rogue1,    ok system freezes is generally  a video driver issue
[15:07] <N9NU> e-meditator: So you can access INET via embedded OS within
[15:07] <coz_> Rogue1,  are you sure the video driver is installed properly?
[15:07] <digifor> DasEi, it gave me the idea to look in the vlc settings. Ticked the box that says 'Fullscreen' and vlc seems to work without crashing
[15:08] <Rob14> I installed Ubuntu on sdb but forgot to change the boot loader so when i just installed xp on sda it was overwritten. How can I reinstall grub from the live cd?
[15:08] <e-meditator> N9NU: thats right, i can
[15:08] <digifor> DasEi, Thanks for your assistance at any rate
[15:08] <erUSUL> !grub2 | Rob14
[15:08] <DasEi> !yay | digifor:
[15:08] <erUSUL> Rob14: the wiki has instructions
[15:08] <N9NU> e-meditator: and you cant from the host OS..hmm...lemme check sumthin
[15:08] <Rogue1> coz_, how am I supposed to be sure? Don't have any drivers for it. System worked fine before on VortexBox (based on Fedora Core 11) - but since trying to install Ubuntu, I've had no end of problems
[15:08] <e-meditator> N9NU: thts right.. sure please thanks
[15:09] <Rob14> ok thankyou erUSUL =)
[15:09] <coz_> Rogue1,   are you on ubuntu now
[15:09] <digifor> Between the forums and irc most problems can be solved. or even rtfm if it gets real desparate!
[15:09] <Rogue1> coz_, video seems to be working fine - but still freezes when I try to run system upgrade or update - and I'm not now, but can be?
[15:09] <vesh> live cd wont boot any ideas
[15:09] <erUSUL> Rob14: if you have a specific question regarding the instructions just ask
[15:09] <N9NU> e-meditator: are you using a dedicated router/pc to act as your gateway or is INET straight into that machine
[15:10] <digifor> TTFN
[15:10] <coz_> Rogue1,  well  I would like to know the exact video card   in terminal   with    lspci | grep -i  vga
[15:10] <e-meditator> N9NU: dedicated router..
[15:10] <harmandeep> hi guys
[15:10] <harmandeep> need help with /etc/nsswitch.conf
[15:10] <oCean_> e-meditator: using 'ifconfig eth0' will show you the specifics for that interface, including the correct netmask used there. Also be sure to use correct syntax, like "route add -net default gw <gwaddress>"
[15:10] <Rogue1> coz_, I'll go take a look, and will be back to you soon :)
[15:10] <coz_> Rogue1, ok
[15:10] <N9NU> e-meditator: ok....you can ping that correct?
[15:10] <harmandeep>  what does COMPAT service specifications means in nsswitch.conf ?
[15:10] <e-meditator> N9NU: my connection was working well until my comp restarted.. power out..
[15:11] <N9NU> e-meditator: Oh....sue power company.
[15:11] <cotter> is there any way to send pictures on my windows based phone through the usb as the system doesnt recognise the phone
[15:11] <e-meditator> N9NU: yes .. i can ping gateway and other machines on network
[15:11] <N9NU> ok
[15:11] <oCean_> e-meditator: setting a route to a specific ip-address is not the same as creating route to an entire network. In your example you use -net, but you do specify just a single host. That cannot be correct, hence he error msg for the netmask
[15:11] <e-meditator> oCean_: i did check that.. the netmask is 255.255.255.0
[15:11] <rek> i don't find my printer in my windows shares...how can i add my printer?
[15:12] <rasengan> What is the best software to record bandwidth usage by IP?
[15:12] <e-meditator> oCean_: what command should i use then ?
[15:12] <iceroot> !best | rasengan
[15:13] <oCean_> e-meditator: ok, setting a default gw should go like this "sudo route add -net default gw 192.168.100.2"  <- this is for a *default* gateway
[15:13] <N9NU> if it was connecting before power went bye bye, then his config might have been rudely modded
[15:13] <coz_> rasengan,  check this    http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[15:13] <zhang> ??
[15:13] <e-meditator> oCean_: when i do that i get "SIOCADDRT: File exists"
[15:14] <oCean_> e-meditator: setting a gateway for a specific network would be in format like "sudo route add -net 192.168.100.0/24 gw 192.168.100.2"  <- in case you want to route a network
[15:14] <oCean_> e-meditator: what does route -n output?
[15:14] <oCean_> e-meditator: mind you, pastes go in pastebin :)
[15:14] <N9NU> e-meditator: route -v
[15:15] <e-meditator> oCean_ : 192.168.100.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[15:15] <e-meditator> but there are another 3 entries
[15:16] <amadews> hy any one now how to configure lm-sensors?
[15:16] <e-meditator> 192.168.95.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 vmnet1
[15:16] <oCean_> e-meditator: the line starting with the 0.0.0.0 is your default gateway
[15:16] <asg> amadews: run sensors-detect
[15:16] <oCean_> e-meditator: use pastebin for pastes!
[15:16] <oCean_> !pastebin > e-meditator
[15:16] <coz_> amadews,   look here maybe   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[15:16] <amadews> asg not detecting anything
[15:16] <asg> amadews: it will assist in determining what sensors are available and help configure the necessary modules.
[15:17] <e-meditator> oCean_: thats right.. how do i change the default gateway for eth0 ?
[15:18] <robertpayne> are firewall rules applied immediately when you use iptables-restore < iptables.rules?
[15:18] <mayunia> hello again, speaking in Spanish or know someone
[15:18] <erUSUL> robertpayne: yep; maybe already stablished connections wont be affected though
[15:18] <erUSUL> !es
[15:18] <oCean_> e-meditator: I don't know your specifics, but in general, you first have to drop existing "sudo route del -net default", then the add command again.
[15:18] <coz_> mayunia,    #ubuntu-es
[15:18] <e-meditator> oCean_ :
[15:18] <e-meditator> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[15:18] <e-meditator> 192.168.100.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[15:18] <e-meditator> 192.168.95.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 vmnet1
[15:18] <e-meditator> 172.16.223.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 vmnet8
[15:18] <e-meditator> 0.0.0.0         192.168.100.2   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[15:18] <FloodBot3> e-meditator: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <robertpayne> erUSUL: yes of course.. hmm I can't seem to get 3306 to open up to my other box for remote SQL access :(
[15:18] <oCean_> e-meditator: nono
[15:19] <coz_> e-meditator,  generally you need to go to pastebin.com    and paste long outputs there
[15:19] <N9NU> e-meditator: do a 'man route'
[15:19] <oCean_> e-meditator: as i said before: no pastes in this channel.
[15:19] <oCean_> N9NU: that is not helpful
[15:19] <N9NU> well...i see plenty of examples to add routes
[15:19] <N9NU> and gw
[15:19] <oCean_> e-meditator: your default route is now set through 192.168.100.2, you should be able to ping that address
[15:20] <e-meditator> oCean_: Sorry.. i did use pastebin.. but i did something wrong i think
[15:20] <RogProg> Google me : Roger Kjøde
[15:21] <oCean_> e-meditator: ok, well nvm. Your default gw should probably be set to the ip of your router.
[15:21] <keith1> I have a question. I am trying to begin a program here where I live to refurbish old landfill discarded computers for children. I am wondering if there is a centrally located resource for minimum requirements for Ubuntu. The reason I ask is that I may have to install older versions into some computers due to their age. I know of one I am working on now that has this issue. Any ideas?
[15:21] <oCean_> RogProg: how is that an ubuntu question?
[15:21] <N9NU> he can access inet via vitural OS, so hardware router is set right
[15:21] <coz_> keith1,  mm  let me check
[15:21] <sacarlson> robertpayne:  did you ever look at your mysql server with myphpadmin ?mysql has built in security for outside access
[15:21] <Rogue1> coz_, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[15:22] <e-meditator> oCean_: How do i do that.. ? i can ping my router.. 192.168.100.2
[15:22] <asg> keith1: the official documentation at ubuntu.com have information on current and older version requirements
[15:22] <e-meditator> but i cant access the internet ..
[15:22] <mayunia> ñ
[15:22] <coz_> Rogue1,   ooo a SIS  video card
[15:22] <RogProg> Check out my java work at www.rufo.com
[15:22] <robertpayne> sacarlson: yes I have.. is there anything beyond setting up the users permission to it? I might've missed something
[15:22] <keith1> Can you download previous versions from Ubuntu
[15:22] <oCean_> !reqs | keith1
[15:22] <oCean_> RogProg: stop spamming!
[15:22] <RogProg> www.rufo.no for norwegians
[15:22] <Rogue1> coz_, ooo indeed - will it be  a probl em?
[15:22] <RogProg> Sorry
[15:22] <coz_> Rogue1,  I am not sure  ubuntu has sys drivers by default ... I am not sure ...but I do know that 3d acceleration with sis  can be an issue
[15:22] <oCean_> RogProg: stop immediately
[15:23] <N9NU> e-meditator: have a look at /etc/sysconfig/network-options/ifcfg-ethx
[15:23] <sacarlson> robertpayne: yes you can make it so only locahost can access if fact that may be how the accouts default
[15:23] <RogProg> Use dualboot win 7 & ubuntu
[15:23] <coz_> Rogue1,  I think I have a sis driver deb package somewhere  let me check
[15:23] <oCean_> e-meditator: if that is actually your router's address, and you can ping it, then you should also be able to ping internet addresses. Can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[15:23] <Rogue1> not bothered about that, coz_ - it's just a local machine used for playing/streaming music and video
[15:23] <lee_> I have a netbook it was thrown against a wall, and the screen would not display. The screen shows a bright white. Its not cracked but a wire maybe loose. Is there anything I can do?
[15:23] <keith1> Awesome. This is part of why I like Ubuntu..tech support in under 3 seconds
[15:23] <coz_> Rogue1,  oh ok
[15:23] <z340> ketih: i suggest not going back to versions out of support.  check out http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[15:23] <robertpayne> sacarlson: I thought if you telnet over via 3306 it doesn't matter? it's listening in on 3306 but the user's by default are set to be localhost only
[15:23] <RogProg> fdisk /mbr
[15:24] <coz_> Rogue1,   mm   you installed via a live cd  yes???
[15:24] <lee_> I don't know what IRC channel to post this in.
[15:24] <oCean_> RogProg: stop it
[15:24] <abhijit> lee_, ask in ##hardware
[15:24] <lee_> thankx
[15:24] <e-meditator> oCean_: i can ping 8.8.8.8
[15:24] <Rogue1> coz_, yes - only one that worked was 9.04 Desktop i86
[15:24] <coz_> lee,    that sounds bad... and it may be more than a loose wire
[15:24] <Rogue1> *i386
[15:24] <sacarlson> robertpayne: I don't think so the myphpadmin shows you who and from what source ip can access
[15:24] <oCean_> e-meditator: in that case you're online! You're probably just missing the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf
[15:24] <coz_> Rogue1,   are you downloading the cd  via windows?
[15:25] <oCean_> e-meditator: add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in /etc/resolv.conf, and you should be a happy surfer
[15:25] <erUSUL> !software | dri245
[15:25] <keith1> thanks for the links everyone..I truly appreciate it
[15:25] <lee_> abhijit: that channel is invites only
[15:25] <coz_> Rogue1,  re insert the live cd in the problem system.... when the menu shows  choose   "check cd for errors"
[15:25] <abhijit> lee_, no
[15:25] <Rogue1> coz_, no - used Ubuntu 10.04, verified the cd itself and the md5sum of the ISO
[15:25] <N9NU> DNS eh
[15:25] <coz_> Rogue1,  i see
[15:25] <oCean_> !pm | mayunia RogProg
[15:25] <robertpayne> sacarlson: ah I have to use a SSH tunnel
[15:25] <lee_> abhijit: no?
[15:26] <abhijit> lee_, type /j ##hardware
[15:26] <sacarlson> robertpayne: oh so all your users come from the same localhost computer?
[15:26] <coz_> Rogue1,  mm  this is odd then.... I have seen a few systems that reject  linux in general  but you said this actually worked
[15:26] <robertpayne> sacarlson: not necessarily.. but currently mysql is only listening on on 127.0.0.1:3306
[15:26] <e-meditator> oCean_: Thanks a lot !! it worked :))
[15:27] <robertpayne> sacarlson: it's more secure to tunnel over ssh and maintain mysql on localhost only
[15:27] <RogProg> Anyone kicking taekwondo?  http://folk.uio.no/rogerkj/TKD/
[15:27] <sacarlson> robertpayne: ok and where are your users as far as ip?
[15:27] <robertpayne> sacarlson: in terms of people interacting with mysql directly?
[15:27] <oCean_> e-meditator: yay! The file /etc/resolv.conf should probably read your ISP's nameservers, which are added to /etc/resolv.conf when you get a dhcp lease. Nvm that, Maybe next boot that'll work out. Or else, add the 8.8.8.8 again :)
[15:28] <RogProg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76RrdwElnTU
[15:28] <Rogue1> coz_, indeed - 10.04 livecd ran then froze, then wouldn't install (blinking underscore only after BIOS) ... 9.04 installed ok, and am on the GUI happily now, but freezes whenever I try to upgrade to 9.10
[15:28] <N9NU> Google baby!
[15:28] <sacarlson> robertpayne: directly? the appache server ip
[15:28] <style232323_> ##hardware :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with service is the error I recieve
[15:28] <RogProg> ping 196.186.1.1
[15:28] <oCean_> RogProg: please stop it
[15:29] <asg> style232323_: /msg nickserv help (you need to identify to join some channels)
[15:29] <I_am_q> be back,..   apologize for the inconvininece!
[15:29] <RafterX> Have a problem when running Teamspeak 3 client from shell command. All my other shells running becomes blank, as if nothing runs in them anymore. But when closing ts3, they are fine again..? Any idea?
[15:30] <sacarlson> robertpayne: are all users running from an apache server on the same ip as mysql?
[15:30] <e-meditator> oCean_: alright.. i hope that i dont have to add that every time i boot up :)
[15:30] <Rogue1> any thoughts, coz_ ? or anyone else, for that matter?
[15:30] <coz_> Rogue1, `  ok   lets see... I can suggest a few things but if ubuntu is rejecting hardware set up I am not sure it would help...but.... i would download either or both the alternate cd  or the minimal install cd...
[15:30] <zoom> hello everybody, gnome doesn't mount automaticly my cdrom how can i correct this ? thx
[15:30] <abhijit> style232323_, identify first
[15:30] <coz_> Rogue1,   try the alternate cd    ...this of course is NOT a live cd
[15:31] <style232323_> abhijit: Does that mean I have to register my nickname
[15:31] <coz_> Rogue1,   be sure to check md5sum on that iso and try to burn it at 1x if possible
[15:31] <abhijit> style232323_, yes
[15:31] <abhijit> !register | style232323_
[15:31] <Rogue1> coz_, I was just mousing around and the whole thing froze again. Getting sick of this. ISOs are fine, discs are   fine, install went ok, and video is operating fine on my monitor, but it just won't let me upgrade.. or do anything useful
[15:32] <N9NU> zoom: mount -t auto /dev/cdrom /mnt/xxx   <== via CLI
[15:32] <Rogue1> coz_, Ubuntu won't give me an option to burn at any less than 10x, despite my optical drive only supporting up to 8x
[15:32] <N9NU> replace cdrom if need be
[15:32] <coz_> Rogue1,  darn
[15:33] <joaobatista> bom dia!!
[15:33] <coz_> Rogue1,  well i would still try the alternate install.... with 10.04
[15:33] <Rogue1> ok, thanks :)
[15:33] <coz_> Rogue1,  if that does not work try the 9.10  etc ... I know this is a pain.. and as i said  this is not a usual situation if hardware is being rejected
[15:33] <Storfiskaren> Hey guys, I'm having an issue with firefox not starting on ubuntu 8.04. It allocates 47mb of memory and then nothing
[15:34] <joaobatista> alguem sabe como faço para instalar lexmark x 2650 no ubuntu
[15:34] <zoom> N9NU, is automount will be ok all time after this cli ?
[15:34] <coz_> Storfiskaren,  8.04?
[15:34] <bazhang> joaobatista, linuxprinting.org check there
[15:34] <N9NU> zoom: this is just a one time mount method
[15:34] <Aiya> is that possible to make cube effect on ubuntu netboon version?
[15:34] <Storfiskaren> yes. it's lts so I haven't bothered updating it
[15:34] <Aiya> is that possible to make cube effect on ubuntu netbook version?
[15:35] <coz_> Aiya,   no it isnt
[15:35] <N9NU> zoom: you can check your /etc/fstab to verify the entry
[15:35] <Rogue1> coz_, not sure how the hardware is being rejected, given that I could (at least, on 9.04) get on GNOME and look around - only trying to use Update Manager seemed to freeze it?
[15:35] <joaobatista> valeu!!
[15:35] <Kanasero> You could if you install compiz.
[15:35] <Storfiskaren> coz_ it's on virtual machine aswell
[15:35] <zoom> N9NU that works your cli but i prefer an automount when i insrt the cdrom how can i do that ?
[15:35] <Aiya> coz_: what are the effect i can make in ubuntu netbook version?
[15:36] <N9NU> yeah....verify your /etc/fstab entry for the CDR
[15:36] <coz_> Rogue1,  understood... and it most likely is not that problem...however   I would still try the alternate cd installation.... it goes step by step and if any errors pop up it will show ...at the least...which area of installation went wrong
[15:36] <ITSCOTTER> im on netbook and i have cube
[15:36] <Kanasero> You could do all the effects a normal one can.
[15:36] <coz_> Aiya,   I believe netbook edition is using mutter
[15:36] <Rogue1> Ok, coz_ - thanks - will let you know how it goes
[15:36] <Aiya> coz_: Thanks
[15:37] <acid> olá
[15:37] <Kanasero> As long as your graphic card is capable and you install the correct packages.
[15:37] <coz_> Aiya,   and you cannot use mutter which has compositing along with compiz  it is eigher or
[15:37] <acid> agum bras aqui na salinha?
[15:37] <bazhang> !br | acid
[15:37] <bootfail> hey all - my system froze and i was forced to cold(re)boot it.  ubuntu 10.4.  now, when comp tries to boot I get this: http://pastebin.com/w8cmdVKr.  Any idea how to fix?
[15:37] <napterk> Hi! Is it better for Grub2 to have a separate /boot partition?
[15:38] <pheonixman> where do i upload pics to show you guys
[15:38] <coz_> bootfail,  is this a fresh install ?
[15:38] <N9NU> zoom: also make sure your automount daemon is set to run at boot up
[15:39] <zoom> ok ...
[15:39] <bootfail> coz_: no - been using and updating and installing packages for about a month
[15:39] <coz_> bootfail,   mm   did you try another reboot
[15:41] <alsem> Iam trying to use BitPIM but it can't get to my USB port.  There is no folder in the /proc.....etc. path.  How am I suppose to mount the USB port in U10.04?
[15:41] <pheonixman> upload screeshots
[15:41] <pheonixman> where do i upload them..?
[15:41] <bootfail> coz_: several - same msg each time
[15:41] <headkase314> napterk, I don't think so - unless you want your / and /home partitions to be a different file system like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs because the boot partition must be ext2 - ext4.  If your / and /home partitions are also going to be ext2 - ext4 then there is no need for a separate /boot partition
[15:41] <headkase314> !grub2 | napterk
[15:41] <erUSUL> !screenshot | pheonixman
[15:42] <headkase314> napterk, see that grub2 entry too
[15:42] <gunvald> Hi all!
[15:43] <pheonixman> http://imagebin.org/109767 , my problem is that i get a different icon for cdrive
[15:43] <coz_> bootfail,   this is strange... can you get to  text console after that message?
[15:43] <pheonixman> does anyone know how to change the same
[15:44] <bootfail> coz_: no
[15:44] <s5s> I have a problem with my graphics driver
[15:44] <coz_> bootfail,  oh darn.... mmm  you can try a recover from the live cd  however  at this point is when I generally reinstall
[15:44] <s5s> I get random colors on the screen
[15:45] <N9NU> to mount USB key: mount /dev/sdc4 /media/usb-key1/  - change sdc4 as needed
[15:45] <s5s> ATI dropped support for my card so I can only use the 8.593 version of fglrx but I don't think it compiles on newer kernels
[15:46] <headkase314> s5s, it's not so much a newer kernal the legacy driver doesn't work with but rather newer versions of the X windowing system that prevents it..
[15:46] <headkase314> s/kernal/kernel
[15:46] <bootfail> coz_:so cold booting can corrupt the boot process beyond recovery - that's awful
[15:46] <s5s> headkase314: any advice?
[15:46] <Kanasero> s5s: What Graphic chip ?
[15:47] <s5s> X1400
[15:47] <Kanasero> Hmmm
[15:47] <alsem> U9NU is this for me?  to mount USB key: mount /dev/sdc4 /media/usb-key1/  - change sdc4 as needed  If so I don't understand how to do this.  I'm rather new to Linux and Ubuntu.
[15:47] <s5s> I want to use the open source driver (R520 for my card I think)
[15:47] <pheonixman> has anyone seen the screenshot..?
[15:47] <RandyRKelly> So is there away that you can install a bin file artistically
[15:47] <RandyRKelly> Automatically
[15:48] <coz_> bootfail,  generally no... although like any OS  not properly shutting down can have adverse affects for sure
[15:48] <headkase314> s5s, the situation is that really if you want to use Ubuntu 10.04 you have to use the built-in open-source driver.  That one is automatically set up for you on install.  To use the proprietary Ati driver I believe you have to go back to Ubuntu 8.10
[15:48] <bootfail> coz_: agreed, but the crappy one that m$ makes at least allows for recovery...
[15:48] <napterk> headkase314: thank you for the articles. I only take ext4 for the system partitions. I always had /boot on a separate partition but I never understand why this is better.
[15:49] <coz_> bootfail,  so does linux... I am a bit puzzled by this one... but  unless someone else has trobuleshooting suggestions  I am at a loss with it
[15:49] <headkase314> napterk, the only situation I know of that would require a separate partition for /boot is if you are using a file-system not "baked into" the boot kernal for your other partitions.
[15:49] <s5s> headkase314: hmm I'll go and see what's not working then. I might be the x server itself
[15:49] <N9NU> alsem: yes..lemme detail for you
[15:49] <N9NU> can you open a Terminal/Konsole
[15:50] <bootfail> coz_: im gonna boot with a livecd, chroot, then try reinstalling that base package and re-installing the boot loader
[15:50] <headkase314> s5s, I'm late to the party - maybe recap your entire situation every 5 minutes or so and I'll catch the recap next time?
[15:50] <alsem> I would greatly appreciate that N9NU.  I'll wait.
[15:50] <coz_> bootfail,  that  seems to be reasonable
[15:50] <N9NU> alsem: can you open a Terminal/Konsole
[15:50] <s5s> headkase314: ok cool
[15:50] <alsem> Yes I can open a terminal no problem.  Also I understand two ways to become root --  sudo and su -
[15:50] <Hutley_> bbl
[15:50] <bootfail> will try again i guess 1 time before i do: hey all - my system froze and i was forced to cold(re)boot it.  ubuntu 10.4.  now, when comp tries to boot I get this: http://pastebin.com/w8cmdVKr.  Any idea how to fix?
[15:51] <N9NU> alsem: as root user, type: mount /dev/  and hit the enter key
[15:51] <N9NU> alsem: hit the TAB key after typing that in
[15:52] <N9NU> oops....change the /dev/ to /dev/s
[15:52] <Aiya> Can anyone help me on how to make two workspace(worksheat.)Thanks
[15:52] <jhuliana> hola
[15:52] <alsem> N
[15:53] <Aiya> Can anyone help me on how to make two workspace(worksheat.)Im using ubuntu netbook version.thanks
[15:53] <N9NU> alsem: then hit tab to autocomplete with sdx entries
[15:53] <mayunia> i am new want to be hacker
[15:53] <coz_> bootfail,   found this    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295508
[15:54] <coz_> bootfail,   also this   http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167710
[15:54] <N9NU> alsem: type  mount /dev/s and hit TAB..not enter
[15:54] <alsem> N9NU:  I tried it with the ENTER first.  Response was NO such file or directory.  I tried it with the TAB and it just went off into never land until I hit ENTER.
[15:54] <N9NU> alsem: your USB key is most likely  /dev/sdx
[15:54] <mortal1> I have a problem.  Every time I hook up my laptop to my tv, I have to click 'configure screen', mirror screens, apply, keep current.  Is there any way for my display manager to remember my settings?
[15:55] <N9NU> ok..you must not have bash-completion installed
[15:55] <headkase314> mayunia, read this PDF to start -> http://www.sindominio.net/metabolik/alephandria/txt/stephenson_at_the_beginning.pdf <- "In the beginning was the Command Line"
[15:55] <zoom> why gnome don't automount my cdrom please ?
[15:55] <N9NU> alsem: can you view your /etc/fstab file
[15:56] <gentooxer> alsem: type this into Konsole: sudo fdisk -l | grep dev
[15:56] <pheonixman> where are default themes located in ubuntu...?
[15:56] <sacarlson> coz_: bad disk drive supperblock error?
[15:56] <N9NU> alsem: and see what name your hard drive is using....its either hdx or sdx
[15:56] <coz_> sacarlson,  not sure  apparenlty bootfail   has an issue   http://pastebin.com/w8cmdVKr
[15:57] <coz_> sacarlson,  I have not often seen this occur  so it is puzzlingme
[15:57] <coz_> puzzleing  me
[15:57] <alsem> N9NU:  Yes I can gedit the /etc/fstab.  the Hard drive is sda  with assorted partitions.
[15:57] <N9NU> alsem: if your using SATA disks, then it will be /dev/sdxx
[15:57] <N9NU> alsem: as your are
[15:58] <Rogue1> coz_, ISO md5sum was fine, CD-ROM integrity was fine - just going  to try the install now
[15:58] <coz_> Rogue1,  with an alternate cd?
[15:58] <Rogue1> coz_, yes - 10.04 alternate, as you suggested
[15:58] <coz_> Rogue1,  cool  let me know
[15:58] <gentooxer> N9NU: alsem: why don't you both just parse dmesg output to get the device name?
[15:58] <barfoo365> Hi all, im having some major issues with my ubunut server 10.04 install after installing virtualbox.  It hangs on boot and gives me a initramfs prompt.  Anyone any ideas on where to start with fixing it?
[15:59] <alsem> N9NU:  The Terminal is still out to never never land after I entered the TAB.
[15:59] <barfoo365> I have a forum post regarding the issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9720803#post9720803 which has a screenshot if that helps
[15:59] <sacarlson> coz_: that last tells me almost nothing.  does it get as far as mounting the root dir ?  if not grub problem?  otherwise do a fsck /dev/sda1 and other disks you use
[15:59] <N9NU> gentooxer: i figured everyone had bash completion installed by default
[15:59] <coz_> sacarlson,  not sure you may have to ask  bootfail   about it since he is the one experiencing it
[15:59] <asg> Aiya: Add the 'workspace switcher' to a panel and use the 'preferences' for that plugin to add an additional workspace
[16:00] <N9NU> using TAB would be most beneficial
[16:00] <gentooxer> N9NU: alsem: or scan it with fdisk or lsscsi
[16:00] <Rogue1> coz_, will I get an option about using my  password to decrypt my home folder w/ the alternate install?
[16:01] <alsem> gentooxer:  Could you be alittle more explicied please!
[16:01] <coz_> Rogue1,  do you want to encrypt the home folder?/
[16:01] <Rogue1> yup
[16:01] <blk> how can i "disable wireless" in mavericks nm-applet? it's grayed out (running as root doesn't make a difference - same for the "enable networking" tick )
[16:01] <Rogue1> ideally
[16:01] <bazhang> blk, #ubuntu+1 for Maverick
[16:01] <xomp> hey there, I'm obviously on the internet here but the wifi icon is showing greyed out with a red exclaimation mark in it. Anyway to fix this? or is this how it's supposed to be? Thanks
[16:01] <coz_> Rogue1,  well then go with it  otherwise bypass that section
[16:01] <pheonixman> anyone there to help me out
[16:01] <blk> bazhang, sry n thx
[16:01] <N9NU> alsem: type df in the konsole
[16:02] <coz_> pheonixman,  i didnt see your question
[16:02] <gentooxer> alsem: what are you trying to connect again?
[16:02] <N9NU> alsem: what is the last entry? /dev/sdbx  or sdcx or sddx
[16:02] <pheonixman> coz_, http://imagebin.org/109767 , my problem is that i get a different icon for cdrive
[16:03] <alsem> N9NU:  Did and got a whole prind out for that I don't under stand. Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[16:03] <alsem> /dev/sda7             44575616   5160376  37150880  13% /
[16:03] <alsem> none                   1462028       316   1461712   1% /dev
[16:03] <alsem> none                   1466248       164   1466084   1% /dev/shm
[16:03] <alsem> none                   1466248       336   1465912   1% /var/run
[16:03] <alsem> none                   1466248         0   1466248   0% /var/lock
[16:03] <alsem> none                   1466248         0   1466248   0% /lib/init/rw
[16:03] <alsem> /dev/sda5             35495584  16072704  19422880  46% /media/sda5
[16:03] <alsem> /dev/sda6             35495584    350412  35145172   1% /media/sda6
[16:03] <tsunami_> lol stfu
[16:03] <pheonixman> coz_, when i change the icons using change desktop, all the icons except the one for cdrive changes
[16:03] <owd95> how much better works nvidia in linux then ati?
[16:03] <coz_> pheonixman,  when you click on "c drive"  icon  what are the contents...is this a dual boot?
[16:04] <xomp> !pastebin alsem
[16:04] <N9NU> alsem: ok....  mount /dev/sdbx /mnt/xxx   change the x to either 1 or 2 or 3
[16:04] <N9NU> i dont know if you have data on the usb key
[16:04] <umesh> Hi all i am not able to here any voice from the spekar those are working on windows i am ubuntu 10.04LTS P4 machine spekar are of Mercur MS-440 can any one guide me on this
[16:04] <alsem> gentooxer:  I am trying to connect my Razor phone to BIT PIM program.  the phone a V3m uses the USB port.  My SDD works ok and the Wacom tablet works OK but not the phone.
[16:04] <mayunia> i am new want to be hacker
[16:04] <mayunia> hahaha
[16:04] <coz_> pheonixman,  this appears to be a cd in the drive... is that the case  or is this an onboard  hard drive?
[16:04] <bazhang> mayunia, wrong channel
[16:04] <N9NU> alsem: most usb keys will have two device entries /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 for example
[16:05] <pheonixman> coz_, yeah it is a dual boot, my window xp is installed in this drice
[16:05] <pheonixman> *drive
[16:05] <xomp> hey there, I'm obviously on the internet here but the wifi icon is showing greyed out with a red exclaimation mark in it. Anyway to fix this? or is this how it's supposed to be? Thanks
[16:05] <roscogruen> how do i share a folder w/ another computer on the same router/modem?
[16:05] <bazhang> xomp, everything works fine otherwise?
[16:05] <coz_> pheonixman,  mm that is odd  that it is showing a cd icon instead of hard drive icon    ...under Places  is the same cd icon listed for that drive?
[16:05] <gentooxer> alsem: disconnect and connect the device and look at the end of the output from the command: dmesg
[16:05] <xomp> bazhang, correct
[16:05] <bazhang> xomp, you could file a bug if you wish
[16:06] <gentooxer> it should tell you what device was connectet
[16:06] <bazhang> xomp, is this ethernet or wireless
[16:06] <xomp> bazhang, wireless
[16:06] <pheonixman> coz_, yeah the same icon show in "places" and also in the nautilus.
[16:06] <coz_> pheonixman,  try changing system themes...under   system/preferences/appearance    see if the different themes also show this as a cd icon
[16:06] <bazhang> xomp, perhaps ubuntu-bug networkmanager
[16:06] <umesh> any help for speaker and mike please
[16:06] <N9NU> alsem: my guess:  mount -t auto /dev/sdb2 /mnt/
[16:06] <pheonixman> coz_, tried the same, then too its showing the same icon
[16:07] <N9NU> your almost there
[16:07] <xomp> bazhang, cba to file a bug report. I'll just live with it :)
[16:07] <pheonixman> coz_, do you know where the icons present int the system/preferences/appearance are show
[16:07] <coz_> pheonixman,  mmm this is odd.... do you have an iso image on that drive
[16:07] <xomp> bazhang, was really wondering if it was expected behavior.
[16:07] <N9NU> and do yourself a big favor; install bash completion
[16:08] <alsem> N9NU: I tried the mount/dev/sdb 1,2,3 /mnt/1,2,3 and all three returned the No such file or directory
[16:08] <coz_> pheonixman,   go under  system/preferences/appearance   hit the  "Customize" button and the   icons  tab
[16:08] <bazhang> xomp, clearly not, but I generally don't worry about it if otherwise works (aesthetics aside)
[16:08] <N9NU> alsem: doh!
[16:08] <N9NU> alsem: ok....copy and paste ..1 second
[16:08] <kyentei> alsem: Perhaps it's not sdb you require then? Try "dmesg | grep sd" and "dmesg | grep hd
[16:08] <coz_> ok guys...sorry ./..i have to break here ..shower time...be back later
[16:08] <pheonixman> coz_, i did change using customize, but it wont change
[16:08] <gentooxer> alsem: why don't you use dmesg to look for the device?
[16:09] <coz_> pheonixman,  did you try the icons  tab under appearance?/
[16:09] <sacarlson> roscogruen: are both computers ubuntu?  if so you might use the package ssh  apt-get install ssh  with ssh-server running on the target you can connect and share files with the client with places>connect server>ssh ,  other option is use samba
[16:09] <dr3mro> using ubuntu 10.04 i typed ps aux and read the output to check if there is a malecious process  but there is a process i don;t know what it do named 'heart'?? what does it do
[16:09] <oCean_> alsem: use "sudo blkid" to discover all of the partitions
[16:09] <coz_> pheonixman,  mm  is there an iso  image on the windows drive ?
[16:09] <kyentei> dr3mro: Not a default ubuntu process. Could be something you have installed.
[16:09] <coz_> pheonixman,  I have not run into this issue before  ... I am just trying to see what could be causing this
[16:10] <roscogruen> sacarlson: yes.  i want a functioning shares folder
[16:10] <dr3mro> kyentei, is there a possibility to be a virus
[16:10] <roscogruen> one shares but not the other
[16:10] <pheonixman> coz_, nope there is no iso image, but it contains a folder in which i have mounted my virtualbox
[16:10] <barfoo365> Can someone take a look at my screenshot and give me an idea of where to be looking in my config to resolve my issue? http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq6pAzA
[16:10] <dr3mro> kyentei, can you ps aux | grep heart and tell me if you have it too
[16:10] <sacarlson> roscogruen: well those are some of your options there are more
[16:10] <pheonixman> coz_, however when i right click the drive and change the icon it changes
[16:11] <coz_> pheonixman,  ah  ok that may be why this is happening but not sure
[16:11] <N9NU> alsem: copy and paste this:  mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/       if you get an error, change it to /dev/sdb1
[16:11] <alsem> gentooxer:  Did as you requested and here is the end of the dmesg command.
[16:11] <alsem> id = 0
[16:11] <alsem> [ 2386.704792] atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xf1 on isa0060/serio0).
[16:11] <alsem> [ 2386.704798] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e071 <keycode>' to make it known.
[16:11] <alsem> [ 2387.045740] atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xf2 on isa0060/serio0).
[16:11] <alsem> [ 2387.045745] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e072 <keycode>' to make it known.
[16:11] <abhijit> !paste | alsem
[16:11] <roscogruen> i just typed mount and didn't get what is listed by a book.  sacarlson
[16:11] <pheonixman> coz_, should i delete the folder and see..?
[16:11] <N9NU> his hard drive is /dev/sda, therefor the next in line (the usb) would be /dev/sdb
[16:11] <asg> dr3mro: can you pastbin the output of your ps aux and also /proc/<PID>/cmdline for the process
[16:12] <HermanDE> barfoo365, What's the problem?
[16:12] <coz_> pheonixman,  well only if the folder is not needed  perhaps  but I am not sure about the outcome
[16:12] <N9NU> sdbx  x will be either 1, 2 or 3 depending on the file system
[16:12] <Magkakos> hey whats the gpu driver that ubuntu uses before i install anything proprietary? nv or nouveau?
[16:12] <dr3mro> asg
[16:12] <dr3mro> asg ok
[16:12] <xy> since when is pasting allowed in here?
[16:12] <sacarlson> roscogruen: mount what?  another windows computer?  ubuntu sytems?  what protocol?
[16:13] <oCean_> xy: it isn't
[16:13] <bazhang> xy, since the floodbot is not operational
[16:13] <oCean_> oh
[16:13] <alsem> gentooxer:  Got you.  Let me go install it in a minute here.
[16:13] <pheonixman> coz_, i delete it, but no change in the icon
[16:13] <barfoo365> HermanDE : My Ubunutu 10.04 install just freezes on that screen when booting
[16:13] <headkase314> Magkakos, if you're nvidia hardware then I'm certain it's nouveau
[16:13] <Rogue1> coz_, froze at 83%, or appeared to - now at 90%,  s o  we'll see what hapens
[16:13] <bazhang> xy, just have to !paste | nick to warn them
[16:13] <N9NU> alsem: if you wish, make sure your 'automounter' service is running or installed
[16:13] <coz_> pheonixman,   then I am puzzled for sure but i will stay logged on to see if someone else has a suggestion
[16:14] <dr3mro> asg http://pastebin.com/AGa0za7j
[16:14] <barfoo365> HermanDE : I have managed to boot to a terminal prompt with the install CD but am not sure where I should be looking to resolve the issue
[16:14] <coz_> Rogue1,  oooo  already a freeze?/  that is not good
[16:14] <alsem> N9NU: I did what you suggested and got special device does not exist.
[16:14] <daedalus_> Hi, last night I got everything working just fine. I was able to zoom in using shift+scroll wheel. Today that feature doesn't work and I can't find it in the nvidia control configure program ultiliity thing.
[16:14] <pheonixman> coz_, sure but what should i do..?
[16:14] <Magkakos> headkase314, so the the default open driver is nouveau for nvidia. does ubuntu use vesa driver ever?
[16:14] <HermanDE> barfoo365, Have you verified the CD?
[16:14] <barfoo365> HermanDE : As in check for errors?
[16:14] <HermanDE> barfoo365, Yep.
[16:14] <coz_> pheonixman,  not sure at this point..... maybe someone has another suggestion or...you could try the ##linux channel
[16:14] <roscogruen> sacarlson: both are ubuntu
[16:15] <barfoo365> HermandDE : Yes, no errors.  This is an already established install that has been running fine for several weeks
[16:15] <Rogue1> coz_, seems to have passed it - let me choose username, encryption, finished that up - will see what happens now
[16:15] <headkase314> Magkakos, you can force the vesa driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but to give instructions I'd have to google a bit.
[16:15] <coz_> Rogue1,   ok
[16:15] <N9NU> alsem: ok. im just abt positive your USB is going to use /dev/sdb
[16:15] <barfoo365> HermanDE : I am just using the rescue function of the CD to give me a terminal prompt
[16:15] <asg> dr3mro: it's part of erlang which you are running
[16:15] <sacarlson> roscogruen: so what protocol have you chosen ssh or samba or other?
[16:15] <roscogruen> one is dual booted but only use the non-ubuntu once a year.
[16:15] <N9NU> alsem: did you try sdb1
[16:15] <Magkakos> headkase314, ok no need
[16:15] <roscogruen> i used samba to create a network for the win7 partition of one
[16:15] <HermanDE> barfoo365, Have you tried to disable the ethernet from the bios?
[16:16] <headkase314> Magkakos, ok ;)
[16:16] <barfoo365> HermanDE : Nope, i'll try it now, 2 secs
[16:16] <roscogruen> but now that i'm running ubuntu partition on it, i can't share files out of it
[16:16] <dr3mro> asg what is erlang
[16:16] <asg> dr3mro: a programming language
[16:16] <Aiya> how do I make 4 workspace in ubuntu netbook remix version?
[16:16] <N9NU> alsem: if yes, then try sdb2  then sdb3  one of em has to work........is this a pre-formatted key?
[16:16] <headkase314> dr3mro, a programming language -> http://www.erlang.org/
[16:16] <dr3mro> asg i didn't run it
[16:16] <alsem> N9NU:  Yup but got same results.
[16:16] <asg> dr3mro: something you are running is written in it though
[16:17] <pheonixman> coz_, by the way do you know where are the icons present in the change desktop apperance/customize/icons present..?
[16:17] <asg> dr3mro: probably the couchdb stuff above the 'heart' process
[16:17] <Rogue1> coz_, got to go to the airport now. Seems to be preparing for software selection/installation, so will let it do it's thing, and continue the install when I get back.
[16:17] <dr3mro> ok so its not malecious
[16:17] <N9NU> thats odd. what error
[16:17] <Magkakos> is nouveau better than nv for nvidia cards?
[16:17] <Rogue1> coz_, thanks for all your help so far :)
[16:17] <coz_> pheonixman,  usually   they are in /usr/share/icons
[16:17] <erUSUL> Magkakos: it should be
[16:17] <coz_> Rogue1,  no problem
[16:17] <asg> dr3mro: no, not at all
[16:17] <alsem> gentooer:  Loaded the lsscsi program.  I agree I don't think the Razor acts as a mass storage device.
[16:17] <coz_> Rogue1,  I am curious if the alternate install works :)
[16:17] <Quantum_Ion> pheonixman,  search in /usr/share/icons
[16:18] <N9NU> ohhhh its a phone?????
[16:18] <Quantum_Ion> cd /usr/share/icons
[16:18] <sacarlson> roscogruen: well with samba there are complex security settings to deal with so you should google "samba ubuntu"  with ssh it's just a mater of apt-get install ssh on each and connect as I showed before
[16:18] <Magkakos> erUSUL, ok and compared to the old nvidia driver i have to use. (173) would it be better to use nouveau i guess?
[16:18] <roscogruen> i thought it was just a simple mount when they both share the same modem
[16:18] <Aiya> Is that possible to have ubuntu and ubuntu netbook remix edition on same PC?
[16:18] <erUSUL> Magkakos: well that i dunno; never used nouveau myself.
[16:19] <Quantum_Ion> pheonixman, run this command from terminal #find / -name *.png
[16:19] <headkase314> Magkakos, if you are not using your Ubuntu system for 3d games and nouveau does compiz effects for you just fine then nouveau is better.  If you want full 3d functionality then the proprietary nv is better.  Also, you should install the proprietary nv from System > Administration > Hardware Drivers as installing the .run file from nvidia.com can cause issues later when a kernel update comes along.
[16:19] <roscogruen> it is a simple process.  just share them.  Buuuut
[16:19] <kn100> Magkakos, http://z0r.de/1354
[16:19] <alsem> N9NU:  if yes, then try sdb2  then sdb3  one of em has to work........is this a pre-formatted key?  what is a pre-formatted key?
[16:19] <kn100> Magkakos, sorry, had to, it was relevant. Nouveau is OK but I seriously suggest you get the nvidia drivers
[16:19] <kn100> they are infinitely faster
[16:19] <N9NU> alsem: i just saw you said Razor....i take that to be a Motorola phone then
[16:19] <sacarlson> roscogruen: on samba?  you have to tell samba what files you want to share.  with ssh it only depends on the user you login.  access any file he can
[16:20] <daniel_b_> hi! just installed ubuntu. I'd like to install kubuntu-desktop but that's failing, because deps cant be resolved. (for example for arc. ) Which repos must I have installed?
[16:20] <roscogruen> it doesn't have be samba.  just sharing the folders
[16:20] <roscogruen> no ssh man.
[16:20] <Magkakos> kn100, there are opensource drivers called nv besides nouveau. and there are the proprietary from nvidia
[16:20] <Quantum_Ion> roscogruen,  apt-get install ssh
[16:21] <roscogruen> no thanks, as i said.
[16:21] <kn100> Magkakos, they are no longer supported
[16:21] <barfoo365> HermanDE : With ethernet disabled it gets past that point and then gives me this screen http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsBbj1A
[16:21] <N9NU> alsem: if it's a phone, then you can use your Gnome or KDE phone apps to connect to it. Your phone may have to be manually 'told' to connect via a command in your phone
[16:21] <kn100> Magkakos, Trust me, it's not the best option to use the proprietary system but the performance gain is quite literally 10 fold
[16:21] <roscogruen> ANYONE:  how do i share a folder w/ another computer on the same router/modem?
[16:21] <N9NU> alsem: im just guessing at all this
[16:22] <alsem> gentooxer:  Forgiveme but I am also working with N9SU and lost a big part of your messages.  Wish there was a way to filter this so I only get relative information. But Please repeate your requests again.
[16:22] <roscogruen> the folders are shared but the darned drive is not showing up on the other computer.  i think it is a mounting issue
[16:22] <N9NU> alsem: i though all this time it was a USB key/thumb drive
[16:22] <DasEi> roscogruen: samba is most simple, or just ssh in the other pc
[16:22] <N9NU> alsem: continue with gentooxer
[16:23] <Quantum_Ion> The Google Chrome Web Browser is definately faster than FireFox, but FireFox is better at downloads to save and pause long downloads
[16:23] <Magkakos> kn100, the thing is i damaged my gpu while cleaning it and for some reason, the opensource drivers now work, but i get black screen for the proprietary
[16:23] <gentooxer> alsem: why don't you use the private chat?
[16:23] <HermanDE> barfoo365, What is located on ata1?
[16:23] <bastid_raZor> roscogruen: you could use ssh to mount them via a GUI.. Places > Connect to Server , then use Method ssh and add a bookmark which will enable you to have the link in Places Menu.
[16:23] <roscogruen> DasEi: could you tell me how to mount the drive. so it is seen by the other computer
[16:23] <headkase314> Magkakos, if you manually install the .run file from nvidia's website the next time a kernel update comes along for your computer X windows will fail to start and your video driver will be in a broken state - has happened to me.  To avoid this, install the nv driver from System > Administration > Hardware Drivers.  Select the recommended driver there and click on Activate.
[16:23] <kn100> Magkakos, that sounds like you damaged something which isn't required for 2d acceleration but is for 3d
[16:23] <alsem> N9NU:  How do I tell the phone to connect?  I was following the directions in BitPIM and when they indicated I needed the USB port mounted I found I didn't!
[16:23] <kn100> Magkakos, in that case, Nouveau is your only choice
[16:24] <HermanDE> barfoo365, What is located at ata1?
[16:24] <DasEi> roscogruen: you set up a folder on one machine, then install samba..
[16:24] <barfoo365> HermanDE : ata1 is my IDE drive with the OS install
[16:24] <roscogruen> done DasEi
[16:24] <gentooxer> alsem: try /dev/ttyUSB
[16:24] <DasEi> roscogruen: then change smb.conf to point to that folder
[16:24] <DasEi> !samba
[16:24] <N9NU> alsem: you might not have to....some phones need to...most dont
[16:24] <DasEi> works fine for linux, too
[16:24] <HermanDE> barfoo365, It looks like the system is reporting errors with the filesystem.
[16:24] <roscogruen> right.  DasEi do you have a gOOD link to show me how to edit smb.conf?
[16:25] <HermanDE> barfoo365, Which file system are you using?
[16:25] <barfoo365> HermanDE : ext3
[16:25] <Magkakos> kn100, ok you said the opensource nv isnt any longer supported?
[16:25] <DasEi> roscogruen: for permanent, get put in the share in /etc/fstab
[16:25] <alsem> gentooxer:  The answer is 'Command not found'
[16:25] <DasEi> roscogruen: igfy
[16:25] <kn100> Magkakos, Nvidia no longer develops it
[16:25] <kn100> Magkakos, Plus Nouveau is better than nv now anyway
[16:25] <roscogruen> ?
[16:25] <roscogruen> igfy?
[16:25] <Hello00> is "i7-720QM 1.6GHZ(2.8 Turbro Mode 8MB Cache)" much better than "Intel Core Duo T2400 - 1.8GHZ (2MB CACHE)"? Would I notice a significate difference in speed and performance if I bought the new i7-720QM?
[16:26] <N9NU> use the OEM driver from nvidia
[16:26] <gentooxer> alsem: I meant tell your application to connect to the phone via /dev/ttyUSB
[16:26] <HermanDE> Is your data on a SATA or IDE drive?
[16:26] <roscogruen> i need a link to walk me through this.   suffered much brain damage from another OS
[16:26] <DasEi> rosco
[16:26] <roscogruen> yo
[16:26] <DasEi> roscogruen: http://samba.netfirms.com/
[16:26] <Magkakos> kn100, ok thanks for the info
[16:26] <roscogruen> THX
[16:26] <kn100> Magkakos, no problem :)
[16:27] <barfoo365> HermanDE : A mixture, I have 2 IDE drives and 2 SATA drives.  The OS is on one of the IDE drives, the rest is my data
[16:27] <HermanDE> barfoo365, It looks like your system is detecting sdd1 just fine.
[16:27] <DasEi> roscogruen: http://tinyurl.com/2kpojq
[16:27] <DasEi> scroll a little down, there you go
[16:27] <roscogruen> DasEi: THX. i am starting to think the problem might exist in connection.
[16:27] <HermanDE> barfoo365, but failing on one of your IDE drives...
[16:28] <roscogruen> i can't get that link up
[16:28] <DasEi> roscogruen: can ypu ping the other machine ? no fw, same subnet ?
[16:28] <headkase314> roscogruen, right-click on the link and choose "open in web-browser"?
[16:28] <roscogruen> thx headkase314 .  had no idea that was how it was done
[16:28] <barfoo365> HermanDE : Do you think the ethernet failing is a red herring?  Or is it related to the dying drive?
[16:28] <headkase314> roscogruen, you're welcome ;)
[16:29] <sacarlson> roscogruen: maybe test with ssh and you'll see if the problem is network comunication problem or security settings in samba
[16:29] <_Trullo> I have a asrock 330, I'm trying to get sound thru both hdmi and analog output at the same time, anyone able to help?
[16:29] <FillThisIn> heya
[16:29] <alsem> gentooxer:  I tried the /dev/... and the application, BitPIM, didn't connect to the phone.
[16:29] <FillThisIn> can some of you help me?
[16:29] <bazhang> FillThisIn, ask a question
[16:29] <_Trullo> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=58978 I follows that guide
[16:29] <HermanDE> barfoo365, There are some problems with detecting the proper 8139 driver.
[16:29] <DasEi> roscogruen: also can set your messenger to use a specific browser for direct left-click
[16:29] <roscogruen> i see the connection go on/off/on/off all darn day since adding the second computer
[16:29] <HermanDE> barfoo365, That has been fixed by disabling the ethernet in the bios.
[16:29] <_Trullo> http://pastebin.com/c0SM7PsD my aplay -l ..
[16:29] <FillThisIn> How can  i make my intel chipset work for packet injection its a iwl4965
[16:30] <ylmfos> pk
[16:30] <HermanDE> barfoo365, So, that problem is solved.  It is now the problem with the filesystems on the drives.
[16:30] <roscogruen> "connection" to internet
[16:30] <barfoo365> HermanDE : I think I might cut my losses and ditch the 120gb OS IDE drive, its years old and wouldn't surprise me if it was on its way out.  It gets real hot at times which cant be good :)
[16:30] <Copperred> Hello...I am having a hard time understanding what Compiz is.....it is a Desktop enviroment like Gnome?   I am runnning Lucid....and cannot find the Compiz (or Compiz Fusion) control panel.  I have a WIN XP Vbox virtual machine that autoloads upon Ubuntu starting up.....i would like that WinXP VM to be sent to Workspace 2 on my desktop.  I am told I can do this with Compiz......yes no?   Other simple idea?
[16:30] <DasEi> roscogruen: just answer
[16:30] <DasEi> roscogruen: can ypu ping the other machine ? no fw, same subnet ?
[16:30] <FillThisIn> Can anyone hear me?
[16:30] <DasEi> FillThisIn: yup
[16:30] <erUSUL> Copperred: compiz is a window manager
[16:31] <HermanDE> barfoo365, Just follow the suggested fsck
[16:31] <FillThisIn> can anyone help me?
[16:31] <N9NU> compiz runs on top of the window manager
[16:31] <FillThisIn> >>
[16:31] <roscogruen> not sure.  what is command to ping?
[16:31] <DasEi> !who | roscogruen
[16:31] <N9NU> or eh gnome
[16:31] <dabukalam> Everytime I install Tweetdeck it breaks my software index. How can i fix the index without removing TD?
[16:31] <DasEi> roscogruen: being on one box, you got the ip of the other one..
[16:32] <gentooxer> alsem: I don't find you phone in the list of supported ones
[16:32] <DasEi> roscogruen: ping SomeIPaddress
[16:32] <headkase314> Copperred, in System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, search for compiz settings manager.  Install that and then it will appear under System > Preferences.  From Compiz Settings Manager you can configure everything in compiz.  To enable compiz go to System > Preferences > Appearence and under Desktop Effects choose "extra".
[16:32] <Copperred> erUSUL: Where do I find this Compiz?  certain command line?      I would like the WIN XP vm to go to workspace 2 automatically upon Ubuntu loading up.
[16:32] <sacarlson> Copperred: I thought compiz is like eye candy on gnome xserver it makes stuff spin on and off the screen.  takes lots of coputer power to run and normaly takes a good video card.
[16:32] <FillThisIn> Do you know how to put packet injection to work on Intel iwl4965?
[16:32] <roscogruen> thx.  DasEi i'm bing bombarded with comments and no time to do the things you've suggested.  i'm going to sign off for a bit.  brb
[16:32] <erUSUL> !ccsm > Copperred
[16:32] <Copperred> ok
[16:32] <FillThisIn> Do you know how to put packet injection to work on Intel iwl4965?????????????????????????????????????????????????
[16:33] <alsem> gentooxer:  It is listed as a V3m one of the ones in the Razor family.
[16:33] <erUSUL> Copperred: i dunno if compiz support what you want. maybe more hep in #compiz
[16:33] <DasEi> :)
[16:33] <bazhang> FillThisIn, stop with the ???
[16:33] <FillThisIn> okay ^
[16:33] <gentooxer> alsem: ah OK
[16:33] <N9NU> erUSUL: compiz-manager will bring up the motherload of options once its running    FYI
[16:33] <FillThisIn> ^~^
[16:33] <barfoo365> HermanDE : Thanks, i'll give it a go
[16:33] <Copperred> hmmm
[16:33] <Copperred> is tehre a LOW RESOURCE way to send this window automatically to Workspace 2?
[16:33] <FillThisIn> Bazhang: but can ya help?
[16:34] <dexter> hey ppl
[16:34] <bazhang> FillThisIn, explain exactly why you need that
[16:34] <pheonixman> hi, when i try to run $gtk-update-icon-cache ./index.theme it gives the error "gtk-update-icon-cache: No theme index file."
[16:34] <pheonixman> can anyone help me..?
[16:34] <FillThisIn> Bazhang:
[16:34] <gentooxer> alsem: so what the Problem with the wizard of bitpim
[16:34] <alsem> gentooxer:  so how do I interact with the phone in order to connect it?
[16:34] <davide_> !list
[16:34] <FillThisIn> Bazhang: i need to  run aircrack/airdump/etc... to test the internet security of my grandmas internet
[16:35] <gentooxer> alsem: start bitpim and follow the orders there
[16:35] <sacarlson> alsem: maybe bluetooth?
[16:35] <FillThisIn> but i can't make the chipset injection work
[16:35] <bazhang> FillThisIn, not with that chipset no. and cracking wifi is offtopic on this network
[16:35] <gentooxer> alsem: selecting the phone type an so on
[16:36] <FillThisIn> Bazhang: I googled for it and there are some patches but i can't make them work
[16:36] <FillThisIn> actually i don't even know what to do with them
[16:36] <bazhang> FillThisIn, this is a subject outside this channel's scope
[16:36] <gentooxer> alsem: did you use that find phone button?
[16:36] <FillThisIn> okay
[16:36] <FillThisIn> seya then
[16:36] <pheonixman> anyone there to solve my problem
[16:36] <Aiya> what is the preference shortcut key in ubuntu netbook remix edition.Thanks
[16:36] <DasEi> FillThisIn: sure grandma liked it ?
[16:36] <DasEi> !patch
[16:37] <N9NU> alsem: read: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-94713.html
[16:37] <alsem> gentooxer: sacarlson:  I ran BitPIM as suggested.  I selected Alltel. Motorola and then NO phones are listed.  If I use Verizon then I can get the V3m.  I read someting about Bluetooth but have no idea how to invoke that!
[16:38] <abhijit> hmm
[16:39] <sacarlson> alsem: I haven't played with bluetooth in a long time but as memory holds it required some kind of authentication at some point.
[16:39] <sacarlson> alsem: and bluetooth needed to be active in the phone to start
[16:39] <abhijit> !bluetooth | asle
[16:39] <gentooxer> alsem: and the phone is plugged in right?
[16:40] <alsem> gentooxer:  YES and the screen light is on.
[16:40] <s5s> Hey guys I have a problem with radeon driver. I get a white screen when it is loaded (even if X isn't started). I can't see anything and the screen isn't completely white but is a mixture of colors which also change over time
[16:40] <jramsey> garmin gps on usb; doesn't seem to work; how do i know which usb device is assoc. with the garmin?
[16:41] <N9NU> alsem: Here is the motherload of answers for you: http://linuxidx.com/linux.php?q=Hello+from+linux+and+dun+|+HACK+THE+RAZR
[16:41] <gentooxer> alsem: what does it tell you if you try to scan the com ports?
[16:41] <sacarlson> s5s: is this a new install or did it break?
[16:42] <alsem> Sacarflson and N9NU:  N9NU gave me a link to a Bluetooth article so I need to read that.  Also N9NU just posted a link to some answers.  So let me go read these and I will get back with you folks.   Thanks a bunch...................   Al
[16:42] <N9NU> read the last link i sent ya
[16:42] <N9NU> there are several 3rd party programs u can use
[16:43] <gentooxer> alsem: http://www.bitpim.org/help/faq-faildetection.htm
[16:43] <jramsey> how can i show which /dev device controls a usb garmin gps?
[16:43] <V0r34u5> Hey guys, I am looking for a free and open webmail provider
[16:43] <sacarlson> jramsey: try lsusb
[16:43] <expecting> åñòü ðóññêèå?
[16:43] <seb_> it is french chat ?
[16:43] <oCean_> !ru | expecting
[16:43] <jramsey> sacarlson, i did but it doesn't seem to show the /dev device
[16:43] <jramsey> garmin is listed
[16:44] <s5s> sacarlson: it's a brand new install and it is also minimal - I only have about 300 packages. However I boot up in a tty and I can see that when the driver is loaded this happens. If I blacklist everything is OK
[16:44] <gentooxer> V0r34u5: keep us posted :)
[16:44] <headkase314> V0r34u5, I don't know if that is off-topic for here but how about gmail and hotmail?
[16:44] <gentooxer> headkase314: thats so offtopic
[16:44] <xover> guys vsftpd is killing me, it create a pid, but it does not exist
[16:44] <N9NU> V0r34u5:    hushmail.com - w/ 4096 bit enc.
[16:44] <xover> and i cannot log in
[16:45] <headkase314> gentooxer, ok - I won't say any more on it then! ;)
[16:45] <expecting> ÷òî, âîîáùå ðóññêèõ íåìà?
[16:45] <bazhang> !ru | expecting
[16:45] <gentooxer> headkase314: :)
[16:46] <andreligne> Hello! I get an error when I try to launch Spotify in the terminal. "/usr/share/themes/Murrina-Tangoesque/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:63: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.Segmentation fault" Anyone who knows what that means? :)
[16:46] <jramsey> sacarlson, dmesg shows usb 3-1 changes as i remove and insert the garmin
[16:46] <cesc> hi there. I have right now a wired internet connection. But I want to use this computer with a usb wireless adapter (which is Alfa Network AWUSO36H). On my other computer with ubuntu I didn't have to install any drivers to work. On this machine (with xubuntu) it is not recognized. What should I do to fix this?
[16:46] <sacarlson> jramsey: so what /dev/xxx is that?
[16:46] <janisozaur> I have a patch for a driver which is compiled as a module in my default ubuntu kernel. can I compile only this module after I apply the patch and replace the .ko file or do I need to compile whole kernel?
[16:46] <jramsey> sacarlson, that is my question :)
[16:47] <sacarlson> jramsey: well I see /dev/usb/usbmonx  in my system but all I have is one usb mouse
[16:48] <jramsey> sacarlson, i see usbmon0-6
[16:48] <dabukalam> Everytime I install Tweetdeck it breaks my software index. How can i fix the index without removing TD?
[16:49] <janisozaur> dabukalam: software index?
[16:49] <sacarlson> jramsey: maybe it mounts as a disk?
[16:49] <stjohnmedrano> good day everyone
[16:49] <stjohnmedrano> anyone frome cebu
[16:50] <FillThisIn> Do you know how to put packet injection to work on Intel iwl4965?
[16:50] <bazhang> FillThisIn, wrong channel
[16:50] <FillThisIn> whats the right channel?
[16:50] <jramsey> sacarlson, places/computer doesn't list it as such
[16:50] <bazhang> FillThisIn, not on this network I'd wager
[16:50] <dabukalam> janisozaur: yeah, aptitude...
[16:51] <cesc> I need help. I'm using right now a wired internet connection on my xbuntu with no problems. But I want to use this computer with a usb wireless adapter (which is Alfa Network AWUSO36H). On another PC I have my other with ubuntu I didn't have to install any drivers for this wireless adapter to work. On this machine (with xubuntu) it is not recognized. What should I do to fix this?
[16:51] <jramsey> FillThisIn, what do you mean pkt injection?
[16:51] <bazhang> jramsey, cracking wifi
[16:51] <sacarlson> jramsey: I didn't remember what gps you had but I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=544631
[16:51] <FillThisIn> jramsey, use with aircrack
[16:51] <bazhang> FillThisIn, please stop
[16:51] <janisozaur> dabukalam: how is it broken?
[16:52] <headkase314> cesc, for your Alfa Network AWUSO36H there is this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=891292 thread which links to this -> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8187L driver.  However the driver is supposed to already be in the kernel.  Your mileage may vary, maybe you could try to install the realtek
[16:52] <headkase314>  driver?
[16:52] <FloodBot3> headkase314: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:52] <FillThisIn> Bazhang, do you any channel/network that i can go?
[16:52] <jramsey> sacarlson, it's a garmin; i have 9.1 ub. on a pos dell inspiron; it loads in the pkg mgr an older version of gpsd. i am not sure it is correct so a newer version is available but i want to verify i'm getting nmea strings from the garmin before building/installing a newer gpsd, which is why i need to know which dev
[16:52] <headkase314> did not flood, line was auto-split by irc client.
[16:53] <bazhang> FillThisIn, no. please stop asking here
[16:53] <cesc> thanks headkase314 gonna check this link
[16:53] <jramsey> FillThisIn, google is your friend; go google your subject and irc channels
[16:53] <headkase314> cesc, if the driver gives you any issues installing it post here for help!
[16:54] <gsr> Hi all.  I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on an HP Pavilion dv7.  I want to shortcut key an enable/disable my trackpad.  I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad to try and enable SHMConfig.  However, synclient and gsynaptics have no effect on my settings!.  I can enable/disable (using shm config: synclient TouchpadOff=1), but it has no effect on my touchpad.
[16:54] <gsr> Anyone else encountered this problem?
[16:55] <sacarlson> jramsey: it apears it has it's own custom kernel module looks like you will have some googleing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=457115
[16:55] <janisozaur> I have a patch for a driver which is compiled as a module in my default ubuntu kernel. can I compile only this module after I apply the patch and replace the .ko file or do I need to compile whole kernel?
[16:55] <amd64> hello, my machine logs out, or locks itself if i am away for a while and i don't want ti too. how can i stop this?
[16:55] <ewet> hi, is there something I can read about the rationale behind ubuntu not having a root user? I'd like to read that _before_ I set up my test-server ;)
[16:56] <janisozaur> amd64: have you checked screensaver options?
[16:56] <bazhang> !sudo > ewet
[16:56] <dabukalam> janisozaur: no idea
[16:56] <jramsey> sacarlson, yeah i saw the blacklist post but i can't believe garmin has issues; i also don't see any dev listed in dmsg and the other posting shows the dev assigned in dmesg
[16:56] <sacarlson> janisozaur: you can compile just your patched code,  you might have to replace your old or rename it?
[16:56] <janisozaur> dabukalam: then how do you know it is brokien?
[16:56] <gsr> !sudo > gsr
[16:57] <sacarlson> janisozaur: you will need the running kernel header files to be able to compile drivers for it.
[16:57] <amd64> janisozau i just read that, i never thought it would be controlled via the screensaver. thanx
[16:57] <janisozaur> sacarlson: how do I compile only this module? run "make" in directory containing it? I suppose I should configure the kernel prior to that?
[16:58] <dabukalam> janisozaur: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/526229/softindexbroken.png
[16:58] <Travis_42> Every now and then (for example, right now), the time in the upper gnome panel doesn't update. For example, right now it has said 11:08AM since 11:08AM and it is now 11:58am. how do I get it to start updating again?
[16:58] <janisozaur> dabukalam: have you read this message? have you tried what it says?
[16:59] <sacarlson> janisozaur: dabukalam: wow cool because I didn't know.  normaly I get patches that have instructions on how to implement
[16:59] <tristan> how i can do to mi web appear in google??
[16:59] <mr_lou> Am I the only one getting slightly tired of my ffmpeg codecs disappearing all the time? I made a batch function long time ago that lets me type a simple command to convert a video to a mobile format. I don't use it a whole lot, but everytime I need it I'm missing the codec that worked fine last time. What is that??
[16:59] <everbill> hello?
[17:00] <headkase314> !hi | everbill
[17:00] <everbill> one question
[17:00] <headkase314> !ask | everbill
[17:00] <headkase314> ;)
[17:00] <wildc4rd> afternoon all!
[17:01] <knoxville> how can I disable nessus from startup?
[17:01] <dabukalam> janisozaur: Guys, I'm not a complete noob. Sorry i didn't make myself clear... -f wants me to uninstall tweetdeck. I don't want to. And yes I've tried re-installing
[17:01] <everbill> support in spanish?
[17:01] <oCean_> !es | everbill
[17:03] <janisozaur> dabukalam: my apt-get doesn't know tweetdeck - can't reproduce
[17:05] <KB9CMW> newbee which mms plugin do I need to listen to AM radio stations/
[17:05] <Aiya> finnaly Im able to make cubic effect in ubuntu netbook remix version.Some idiot told me its not possible
[17:05] <Aiya> LOL
[17:06] <lelle> can you install windows from ubuntu? like wubi in windows but reverse...
[17:06] <bazhang> lelle, in a virtualbox
[17:06] <ZykoticK9> lelle, VirtualBox?
[17:06] <bazhang> !vm > lelle
[17:06] <lelle> ZykoticK9: ??? i want a winblows partition not a virtual inside ubuntu
[17:07] <bazhang> lelle, then no
[17:07] <eichi> how to save grub2 edit with "e" before boot. if i press ESC, its seens not so save the edit?!
[17:07] <sacarlson> mr_lou: I'm not sure what codec you have that's missing but you could try install restricted format that includes most codec that are used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[17:07] <bazhang> eichi, update-grub check the grub2 wiki
[17:07] <lelle> eichi i think you can edit grub settings inside ubuntu
[17:07] <bazhang> !grub2 | eichi
[17:08] <ZykoticK9> mr_lou, if you are trying MP4 or using AAC audio - it was removed upstream - there is a "bug" in Launchpad somewhere about it.
[17:08] <eichi> bazhang: bazhang that is not my question, i know that. but i just want to test some parameters, then edit in grub is enaught
[17:08] <eichi> want to have the key for apply
[17:09] <ewet> bazhang, okay thanks - so it's basically just to force using sudo
[17:09] <uwe> hi all
[17:09] <bazhang> ewet, sudo -i if you need a root shell
[17:09] <uwe> how can i find out the path where JDK is installed
[17:10] <cesc> Hi. I just downloaded a linux driver from realtek for my usb wireless adapter. and when trying to install from terminal window with the command "make" the installation fails and says... make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop
[17:10] <sacarlson> eichi: the grub2 configs to edit are in /etc/grub/defaults  or something like that
[17:10] <ZykoticK9> uwe, try "which java" in a terminal
[17:10] <bihari>  guys i have seen this C code in yashwant kanetkar book http://codepad.org/N3Buu0hf is it correct?
[17:10] <janisozaur> uwe: you can check installed files in synaptic
[17:10] <uwe> ah thanks
[17:10] <eichi> sacarlson: thats not my question, you all talk things to me liks an keyword bot
[17:11] <mr_lou> sacarlson, ZykoticK9, it says libfaac missing.
[17:11] <ZykoticK9> mr_lou, that's AAC - it's gone.  You'd need to use a non-Ubuntu version of ffmpeg for that codec to work.
[17:11] <mr_lou> sacarlson, ZykoticK9, Last time it was a similar thing, and I struggled for some hours getting it working again.
[17:11] <mr_lou> ZykoticK9, I believe that's what I did last time too....hmm.... mkay.
[17:12] <cesc> any ideas about my problem...
[17:12] <cesc> Hi. I just downloaded a linux driver from realtek for my usb wireless adapter. and when trying to install from terminal window with the command "make" the installation fails and says... make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop
[17:12] <headkase314> !pm | cesc
[17:12] <sacarlson> eichi: maybe your problem is in the editor that you didn't tell us the one you used mayb vi or vim or gedit or..............................
[17:12] <ZykoticK9> mr_lou, here is the related bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/faac/+bug/374900
[17:12] <headkase314> cesc, from your pm you are at the compiling step of the driver?
[17:12] <cesc> yes
[17:12] <leech> so i closed banshee media player.. but the music is still playing...kinda cool but its getting old
[17:12] <janisozaur> cesc: do you have kernel headers installed?
[17:12] <uwe> ah thanks
[17:13] <lelle> leech: maybe its still running in tray? some programs do that
[17:13] <cesc> I don't know janisozaur I'm a complete  noob. How to check if I have them?
[17:13] <ewet> bazhang, thanks for that - I know that :) I wanted to be sure about the strategy of ubuntu behind it (the why - not the what ;) ) but it's pretty straight forward -- thank you :)
[17:13] <leech> nope
[17:13] <janisozaur> cesc: sudo apt-get build-essential
[17:13] <headkase314> cesc, listen to janisozaur and others - I'm not at an Ubuntu machine right now you'll probably have to install compiling tools.  Type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" at a console prompt to begin.
[17:13] <janisozaur> cesc: * sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:13] <leech> killall'ed it
[17:14] <adminewb> Help please diagnosing a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where this rig was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message relating to "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise trying to boot LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system uses both MBR and GPT partitioned physical hard disks -- again not a problem on older 64 builds. All Linux volumes+swap ar
[17:15] <mr_lou> ZykoticK9, You don't happen to know of some other easy way of converting whateverformat to mobile phone compatible mp4 format?
[17:15] <ZykoticK9> leech, i just opened Banshee and used the X to close it.  it minimizes to system tray.
[17:15] <bazhang> adminewb, it got cut off at All Linux volumes+swap a
[17:15] <ZykoticK9> mr_lou, non-cli program Handbrake is amazing for MP4
[17:16] <mr_lou> ZykoticK9, Thanks a lot. I will take a look.
[17:16] <adminewb> bazhang I see, that was the gist of it anyway
[17:16] <bazhang> mr_lou, handbrake is indeed nice
[17:16] <cesc> janisozaur getting new files after sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:16] <leech> yes it does that normally
[17:17] <leech> no worries thanx for your input
[17:17] <ZykoticK9> mr_lou, FYI Handbrake isn't in default Ubuntu repos
[17:17] <adminewb> just stating that GPT disk contains all Linux volumes + swap, & that amd64 installation is an upgrade from karmic
[17:17] <janisozaur> cesc: this package should depend on kernel headers, after it installs, try running make once again
[17:17] <cesc> thanks I'll do that.. I will let you know
[17:17] <headkase314> janisozaur, cesc, you may also have to type "./configure" before the make (without quotes)
[17:18] <janisozaur> headkase314: good point, I've assumed it was already past that step
[17:18] <mr_lou> ZykoticK9, Thanks, I found out. :-) I'm at their download site, I think.
[17:18] <cesc> ok thanks for both of you
[17:19] <SingAlong> hi all
[17:19] <thewanderer1> can you recommend a way to make my desktop work identically to that of Windows 7? it doesn't have to be GNOME, it can be any desktop environment.
[17:19] <bazhang> mr_lou, also a PPA for it
[17:19] <ZykoticK9> mr_lou, the PPA is at https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
[17:19] <iceroot> thewanderer1: install kde4
[17:19] <SingAlong> I enter my password at the login screen and again it shows me the login screen asking for the password. My password is right tho. I even logged in as root and reset my password and it doesnt fix the problem. Anyone?
[17:21] <eichi> seems, that update-grub2 does not integrate the things, i did in /etc/grub.d/40_custom, why that?
[17:21] <thewanderer1> iceroot: I know KDE4, but I mean to emulate the exact looks of W7
[17:21] <cesc> when I type ./configure it says bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[17:21] <sacarlson> SingAlong: caps lock set?
[17:21] <iceroot> thewanderer1: look at reactos if they have something like that
[17:21] <raskah> Has anyone else had trouble with firefox after Ubuntu 10.04 install? I cant show the download window, and it wont create any bookmarks
[17:21] <bazhang> thewanderer1, install some themes then
[17:21] <headkase314> cesc, ok try make then
[17:21] <cesc> thanks.
[17:21] <SingAlong> sacarlson: No. Thats not the problem. Coz when i type the wrong password it does show a failure message. but when i type the right password it goes to a black screen and then comes back to the login screen
[17:22] <headkase314> cesc, you're welcome - if make runs it should end with no errors if there are errors pastebin and give link here.
[17:22] <thewanderer1> I'll look at how ReactOS has developed
[17:22] <sacarlson> eichi: you might look with the gui startup-manager  apt-get install startup-manager  there you can setup your 40_custom to run as default.  I think at boot you can also hold shift scrool to the botom to find it to boot
[17:22] <SingAlong> anyone?
[17:23] <janisozaur> SingAlong: can you finally login to your desktop?
[17:23] <thewanderer1> oooh, a shiny new Windows 7 transformation pack for GNOME :)
[17:23] <headkase314> SingAlong, is caps lock on?  Seriously! ;) Just to rule it out?
[17:23] <SingAlong> Thats not the problem. Coz when i type the wrong password it does show a failure message. but when i type the right password it goes to a black screen and then comes back to the login screen
[17:23] <SingAlong> janisozaur: only as root. but not as my actual user.
[17:23] <Rogue1> coz_, no such luck - froze at 10% (Configuring language-pack-en-base) - HDD LED is still lit, but nothing else happens - and it's been that way since I signed off here
[17:24] <stratovarius> hi all
[17:24] <stratovarius> how to put crunch output to a txt file?
[17:24] <SingAlong> headkase314: I can login via recovery mode though.
[17:24] <erUSUL> stratovarius: command > output.txt
[17:24] <janisozaur> SingAlong: maybe there is a script that logs you out in you start-up applications or you login into gdm(/kdm/xdm/whateverdm) session?
[17:25] <headkase314> SingAlong, sounds like something is borked in your config files.  You are logging in in a GNOME session?  Do you have any other desktop managers you can try to log in with using the same user?
[17:25] <Juniksz> hello, how can i update my kernel?
[17:25] <Goliath> does anyone here use lubuntu?
[17:25] <ikonia> Juniksz: ubuntu releases packaged kernel updates when needed or bugs are fixed
[17:25] <HaPK_PerCar> hi people
[17:25] <SingAlong> headkase314: ya I was logging in from UNR. I'll try raw gnome
[17:25] <ikonia> Juniksz: if a kernel update is available to you, it will advertise it's self within the package manager
[17:26] <headkase314> cesc, how's it going for you?
[17:26] <SingAlong> headkase314: raw gnome doesnt work too.
[17:26] <SingAlong> headkase314: anyway I can reset my xorg conf from the root account?
[17:26] <Juniksz> ikonia, but i somehow stop this, and don't remind me
[17:26] <headkase314> SingAlong, so it's established that your password is correct but the desktop is failing to load?
[17:26] <SingAlong> headkase314: exactly!
[17:26] <ikonia> Juniksz: there is no update available if you are not getting an annoucment
[17:26] <headkase314> SingAlong, ok, let's see what others say now - I'm not an expert!
[17:27] <HaPK_PerCar> I got a new laptop, a toshiba satellite L645. I got ubuntu into it, simple and easy, but it won't connect to the internet! not even if I attach a net cable to it. What can I do??
[17:27] <cesc> It went wrong... check it http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/n8ApSUzB
[17:27] <Juniksz> ikonia, 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:27] <janisozaur> cesc: "sudo mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/build && make"
[17:28] <headkase314> cesc, listen to janisozaur  - I'm weak at this step
[17:28] <Juniksz> ikonia, i think that isn't the lastest  kernel
[17:28] <ikonia> Juniksz: yes, what's wrong with that
[17:28] <ikonia> Juniksz: that is the latest one ubuntu has released
[17:28] <ikonia> !info linux-kernel
[17:28] <ikonia> !info kernel-image
[17:28] <ikonia> !info linux0image
[17:28] <adminewb> Having a boot problem on desktop Lucid amd64 build. Where I was able to boot either 32 or 64bit builds previous, now it locks up on amd64, just after a console message with "child_rip+0" as symbolic address. Likewise booting LiveCD image of same. Thoughts? May be notable that the system has both MBR and GPT partitionings -- again not a problem on older 64 builds. All Linux volumes+swap are on GPT disk, WinXP on MBR. Note also the amd64 install
[17:28] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[17:28] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <nima_> hi there
[17:29] <nima_> I'm a beginner ubuntu user and I have some questions
[17:29] <janisozaur> Juniksz: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[17:29] <Juniksz> janisozaur, do nothing
[17:29] <janisozaur> Juniksz: do you have repos enabled in /etc/apt/sources* ?
[17:29] <Juniksz> ikonia, so everything is great?
[17:29] <raskah> no matter what i do... i cant make firefox download anything or make any bookmarks. weird. it was fine the last time i installed ubuntu
[17:30] <nima_> is there anybody to help me
[17:30] <nima_> ?
[17:30] <raskah> it just does nothing
[17:30] <bazhang> nima_, ask a question
[17:30] <headkase314> !ask nima_
[17:30] <janisozaur> !ask | nima_
[17:30] <Juniksz> janisozaur, sure
[17:30] <ikonia> Juniksz: well, it would seem there is a minor version update out, however, have you rebooted since your last update ?
[17:30] <nima_> ok
[17:30] <progre55> hi guys! how can I edit user details on a terminal? say, I have a user called ubuntu and want to edit it's full name and address
[17:30] <HaPK_PerCar> I got a new laptop, a toshiba satellite L645. I got ubuntu into it, simple and easy, but it won't connect to the internet! not even if I attach a net cable to it. What can I do??
[17:30] <nima_> how can i access to root through terminal
[17:30] <thewanderer1> progre55: nano /etc/passwd
[17:30] <nima_> ?
[17:30] <ikonia> Juniksz: make sure you're booting of the lastest kernel when you boot from grub
[17:30] <thewanderer1> nima_: sudo su
[17:30] <ikonia> !root > nima_
[17:30] <llutz> progre55: usermod
[17:30] <abhijit> !manual | nima_
[17:30] <ikonia> thewanderer1: please don't suggest that, it's wrong
[17:31] <progre55> thewanderer1: thanks
[17:31] <Juniksz> ikonia, the newer kernel isn't work for me, so i've remove, andnow, thereis no other kernel
[17:31] <progre55> llutz: usermod ubuntu ?
[17:31] <thewanderer1> oh, sorry, that's what I just always do
[17:31] <erUSUL> progre55: man chfn
[17:31] <llutz> progre55: "man usermod"
[17:31] <ikonia> Juniksz: ok - so the newer kernel doesn't work, so you've gone back to the next latest, which means your up to date
[17:31] <progre55> okay )
[17:31] <progre55> thanks
[17:31] <cesc> janizosaur after typing what you said .... make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[17:31] <janisozaur> !tab | cesc
[17:31] <ikonia> cesc: what are you trying to build ?
[17:32] <HaPK_PerCar> I got a new laptop, a toshiba satellite L645. I got ubuntu into it, simple and easy, but it won't connect to the internet! not even if I attach a net cable to it. What can I do?? please someone T_T
[17:32] <nima_> and how can i install java runtime 64-bit
[17:32] <nima_> ?
[17:32] <abhijit> !java | nima_
[17:32] <cesc> I try to install a usb wireless adapter. An Alfa Network AWUS036H
[17:33] <headkase314> ikonia, cesc,  Alfa Network AWUSO36H -> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8187L driver.
[17:33] <ikonia> headkase314: in that package there should be a file called README and INSTALL
[17:33] <cesc> yes I downloaded that driver. but compiling it give me problems.
[17:33] <ikonia> headkase314: read those files
[17:33] <headkase314> ikonia, cesc is building it - I googled for the device
[17:34] <ikonia> headkase314: ooh, I see
[17:34] <cesc> I'm on xubuntu
[17:34] <adminewb> if someone can think of a better venue for my boot trouble I'd like to know
[17:35] <ikonia> cesc: that doesn't change anything, you need to read the README and INSTALL files in the package
[17:35] <nima_> is there anyone from the countries that filter the internet?
[17:35] <cesc> yes I did.. it says 1st to type make
[17:35] <ikonia> nima_: what does that have to do with ubuntu ?
[17:35] <abhijit> nima_, filter? means?
[17:35] <sacarlson> adminewb: well for one maybe you should add a pastebin with lshw  and any other hardware info.
[17:36] <ikonia> cesc: are you in the right directory ?
[17:36] <nima_> I am from iran and i can't install jre
[17:36] <mr_lou> ZykoticK9, It would seem I'm missing something... At least the "Start" button in Handbrake isn't active.
[17:36] <eichi> grub2 in ubuntu seems to ignore clocksource=acpi_pm  :( /sys/..../curent_clocksource is hpet but i did clocksource=acpi_pm in grub settings
[17:36] <adminewb> ok sacarlson
[17:36] <eichi> someone has an idea????
[17:36] <thewanderer1> nima_: then you're out of luck - search for an open alternative to it
[17:36] <HaPK_PerCar> I got a new laptop, a toshiba satellite L645. I got ubuntu into it, simple and easy, but it won't connect to the internet! not even if I attach a net cable to it. What can I do?? please someone T_T
[17:36] <thewanderer1> nima_: there are alternative packages for Java in the repositories
[17:36] <abhijit> nima_, which language you speak?
[17:37] <thewanderer1> HaPK_PerCar: the information you are providing is not enough - what do you mean by "connecting to the Internet"?
[17:37] <eichi> HaPK_PerCar: you mean ethernet connection to router?
[17:37] <s5s> Does anyone know what the project page for the open source radeon driver is because I need to download the source and google doesn't help much
[17:37] <HaPK_PerCar> thewanderer1, trying to connect wireless trough a wireles router
[17:37] <cesc> yes I'm in the directory where I extracted the archive
[17:38] <Dug__> Hi
[17:38] <HaPK_PerCar> eichi, yeah, also
[17:38] <eichi> s5s: search for "xorg radeon wiki"
[17:38] <headkase314> cesc, putting the name of the person you are talking to in your comment will highlight it for them.
[17:38] <thewanderer1> HaPK_PerCar: how do you know that the connection is not working? what are the symptoms and what do you do to spot them?
[17:38] <abhijit> !ir | nima_
[17:38] <HaPK_PerCar> eichi, yeah, also tring to connect trough a cable
[17:38] <nima_> my mother-in-t is farsi
[17:38] <Dug__> is anyone here able to help me with an Audio problem ? im not sure but it might be a driver problem, i have updated my alsa driver and installed PulseAudio and still no luck :(
[17:39] <Dug__> im using Ubuntu 10.04 64-Bit
[17:39] <abhijit> nima_, in your iranian channel those people may know more about your issue. type /j #ubuntu-ir to join your iranian channel
[17:39] <eichi> HaPK_PerCar: try sudo dhcpclient eth0             in terminal
[17:39] <nima_> ok thank u so much
[17:39] <nima_> ok
[17:39] <HaPK_PerCar> thewanderer1, well it simply won't connect, I mean, ubuntu tries to conect trough the wireless but it can't
[17:39] <nima_> where can i type this?
[17:39] <abhijit> nima_, here only
[17:39] <headkase314> ikonia, cesc cesc was able to make but the make terminated with errors.  cesc can you copy paste more of the error than you pastebin'd last time and pastebin again?
[17:40] <HaPK_PerCar> thewanderer1, it's a if it doesn't finds the router, or as if it need special authentication
[17:40] <HaPK_PerCar> eichi, I'll try that
[17:40] <janisozaur> nima_: in the same input box where you type messages to thechannel
[17:40] <nima_> #ubuntu-ir
[17:40] <Dug__> can anyone help ?
[17:40] <eichi> HaPK_PerCar: cable or wireless?
[17:40] <abhijit> nima_, no. type /j #ubuntu-ir
[17:40] <bullhorn> upgrading my karmic koala to some lynx with my 3g modem :)
[17:40] <cesc> here it is.. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/3JvFSSRT
[17:40] <HaPK_PerCar> eichi, wireless
[17:41] <HaPK_PerCar> eichi, it won't even recognize if a cable is connected
[17:41] <headkase314> cesc, ok hopefully someone will be able to give you the next step
[17:41] <HaPK_PerCar> eichi, command dhcpclient doesn't exists
[17:41] <Dug__> Is anyone available who can help with Alsa Driver's and pulse audio please ? i only have a small problem but im new to linux and not sure what else i can do :(
[17:42] <thewanderer1> HaPK_PerCar: it should be dhclient, not dhcpclient
[17:42] <eichi> HaPK_PerCar: doenst matter, i thougt you are cabled. i asked you if ethernet and you said yes
[17:42] <sniperjo> anyone clarify that notify-send will appear under  a fullscreen app such as VLC ?
[17:43] <HaPK_PerCar> the dhclient says that there's no such device, blind socket
[17:43] <janisozaur> cesc: I've downloaded and successfully compiled the driver you gave link to
[17:44] <janisozaur> cesc: can you pm me?
[17:45] <Dug__> Is there anyone available who can help a linux beginner with what i think is an Alsa Driver and PulseAudio problem please ?
[17:45] <headkase314> janisozaur, cesc for reference here is the thread that identifies the device and links to the driver ->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=891292
[17:45] <Calinou> !sound
[17:45] <Calinou> Dug__: look
[17:46] <md-llyr> How can I make Nautilus show me thumbnails of my video files when browsing my Windows drives?
[17:46] <HaPK_PerCar> I can't connect wireless, or cabled for that matter... what can I do?
[17:46] <Dug__> ive seen them
[17:46] <Muelli> HaPK_PerCar: plug the cable in :>
[17:46] <Dug__> they dont help it doesnt state the problem i get
[17:46] <Muelli> md-llyr: check nautilus preferences. Thumbnails might be disabled for files bigger than x.
[17:46] <coz_> md-llyr,   mm  that should be under  Edit preferences
[17:47] <Dug__> i only have small problem i just need a small bit of help from someone who knows what they are doing :(
[17:47] <HaPK_PerCar> Muelli, it is in...
[17:47] <coz_> md-llyr,  go under nautius...Edit... Preferences....Preview tab
[17:47] <Muelli> HaPK_PerCar: well. then ceck /var/log/daemon.log
[17:47] <HaPK_PerCar> ubuntu simply won't recognize it
[17:47] <Dug__> my problem isnt being able to hear sound
[17:47] <Dug__> its recording sound with my microphone
[17:47] <md-llyr> Thanks! Will check that right now. Oddly, it works when browsing my /home folders
[17:47] <Dug__> can somebody help please or atleast point me in the right direction ?
[17:48] <Muelli> HaPK_PerCar: hm. maybe you're using some weird chipset. Can you pastebin the output of "ifconfig -a"?
[17:48] <Muelli> Dug__: what exactly is the problem?
[17:48] <coz_> md-llyr,  there is a pull down to show thumbnails "always"
[17:48] <Dug__> my microphone will record sound but when it plays back it has a lot of interference noise with it
[17:48] <coz_> md-llyr,  also be aware that when opening the windows drive  especially with videos it may take a short while for the thumbnails to show up
[17:48] <Dug__> and the sound it plays back is breaking up and hard to make out
[17:49] <pheonixman> coz_, got any luck..?
[17:49] <Muelli> Dug__: hm. maybe check with alsamixer whether the levels are way too high or anything.
[17:49] <coz_> pheonixman,  still not fixed??
[17:49] <pheonixman> coz_, nope
[17:49] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: I use wicd with wireless it's cool for setup.  apt-get install wicd  ,  but your problem could be in your driver or maybe in your accesspoint or router
[17:49] <Dug__> hmm alsamixer is part of pulseaudio ?
[17:49] <Muelli> Dug__: nope
[17:49] <coz_> pheonixman,  oh my... and did you try the ##linux channel ?
[17:49] <Dug__> hmm I should have installed this ?
[17:49] <pheonixman> coz_, nope
[17:49] <Muelli> Dug__: just type it. you'lee see
[17:49] <coz_> pheonixman,   I am not sure why that icon persists
[17:50] <Dug__> ok i found it im installing now will let you know if that works :) thanks
[17:50] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, yeah, maybe the problem is the router...
[17:51] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: you have any other computer that does work with wifi in your system?
[17:51] <HaPK_PerCar> Muelli, I can't paste it here directly, it's in a different pc, but what I'm supposed to see there?
[17:51] <pheonixman> coz_, i wanted to know how does an icon get attached to a particular folder or hard-disk
[17:51] <pheonixman> ..?
[17:51] <Muelli> HaPK_PerCar: see whether there are interfaces.
[17:51] <sorush20> Hi, my network manager has suddenly disappeared
[17:51] <sorush20> what can I do?
[17:51] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, I haven't tryed with ubuntu wireless...
[17:51] <Muelli> HaPK_PerCar: i.e. other than "lo" but also an "eth0" or an "wlan0"
[17:51] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, it works fine with windows
[17:51] <coz_> sorush20,  disapeared from the panel?
[17:52] <SuperMiguel> any one running ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[17:52] <HaPK_PerCar> Muelli, there is a wlan0, no eth0
[17:52] <sorush20> coz_ yes
[17:52] <Dug__> Muelli: still the same the sound has a lot of intereference no matter what volume setting i set my mic to
[17:52] <Dug__> any other ideas ? :(
[17:52] <coz_> sorush20,  mm  one thing to try is to remove the  notification area and then right click panel  add to panel.... notification area
[17:52] <Muelli> HaPK_PerCar: weird then. You should have a eth0, no? Check whether your wired network is supposed to be supported.
[17:52] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: ok it's not your router or access point then.  did you give wicd a try,  if you can see wlan0 in ifconfig  you should see some results with wicd
[17:53] <Muelli> HaPK_PerCar: and in parallel, you can do a sudo dhclient wlan0 and see what it says.
[17:53] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: Muelli: well if he's not connected to the accesspoint yet then dhclient won't work yet
[17:53] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, can't install wicd, can't find the package
[17:54] <Dug__> Muelli ?
[17:54] <coz_> sorush20,   the other option ,.,, if that doesnt work is    to reset the gnome panel with    gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[17:54] <Muelli> Dug__: sorry mate. Try a different mic...
[17:54] <SingAlong> ubuntu crashes and returns to login scren after login. Happens only for my particular user. Anyway to fix this?
[17:54] <Dug__> hmm i cant this one is internal but it worked fine on windows :(
[17:54] <Muelli> sacarlson: true. HaPK_PerCar: Does iwlist scan show your access point?
[17:55] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: I guess you can try connect with command line with iwconfig wlan0 essid "youraccesspointname"  then dhclient wlan0
[17:55] <Muelli> SingAlong: well. try to move .local out temporarily. Then .gconf.
[17:55] <SingAlong> Muelli: .local in my home dir?
[17:55] <pheonixman> http://imagebin.org/109767, my problem is one of my hard-drives takes some different icon, does anyone know to solve the same.?
[17:55] <Muelli> SingAlong: in the home directory of the user with the login problems.
[17:56] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, how I'm I supposed to know the name of my acces point?
[17:56] <SingAlong> Muelli: done! i renamed it
[17:56] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: after you try iwconfig wlan0 essid "youraccesspoint" you should do another iwconfig wlan0 to see if it attaches to you accesspoint
[17:56] <OceanSurf>  I recently upgraded to 10.04.....in doing so have I lost the simple Volume Control Dial that normally sits at the top of the screen on the pull down menu.....as well the sound is not on upon every startup...and the only way for me to turn it back on is via the terminal command alsamixer where I have to go to the Speaker and take it to 100%...it is always at zero upon startup.   How do I fix all this?
[17:56] <Dug__> Is there anyone else who could help me fix my microphone problem please ?
[17:56] <Muelli> SingAlong: try to log in. If that doesn't work, try .gconf folder.
[17:57] <SingAlong> Muelli: do i just delete that .gconf?
[17:57] <sorush20> coz_ that worked perfectly..
[17:57] <Muelli> SingAlong: nope. better not. just temporarily rename it
[17:57] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: well you can iwlist wlan0 scanning  I think that will give you a list of accesspoints it see's but I don't know how to tell what is yours.
[17:57] <ZykoticK9> OceanSurf, to see a volume control in panel - right click: add to panel / indicator applet
[17:57] <coz_> sorush20,   cool
[17:57] <SingAlong> Muelli: doesnt work. already deleted .gconf and tried it
[17:57] <coz_> OceanSurf,   right click panel   Add to panel  and look for indicator applet   that should br/join #ubuntu
[17:58] <coz_> OceanSurf,  that should bring back  the volume conrol
[17:58] <Muelli> SingAlong: well. you need to have gconfd killed, too. So you'd be better off rebooting before trying to login.
[17:58] <sorush20> coz_ but now the netowork manager will not show me the usual netwrok menu
[17:58] <SingAlong> Muelli: I did sudo service gdm restart.
[17:58] <Muelli> SingAlong: anyway, does it not work after having .local renamed?
[17:58] <pheonixman> guys, anyone there..?
[17:58] <SingAlong> Muelli: nope.
[17:58] <Muelli> SingAlong: yes. that's bad.
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> pheonixman, i don't see the different icon (or do you mean for the cdrom drive?)
[17:59] <SingAlong> Muelli: I dont mind resetting gnome and xorg config. I just have a lot of stuff configured/installed in my home dir. So if I'm able to retain that. I'll be happy
[17:59] <OceanSurf> coz: done
[17:59] <Muelli> SingAlong: unless you don't delete anything, you're fine.
[17:59] <Rogue1> coz_, no such luck - froze at 10% (Configuring language-pack-en-base) - HDD LED is still lit, but nothing else happens - and it's been that way since I signed off here
[17:59] <OceanSurf> Coz or ZykoticK9:  any idea why the volume is always to ZERO upon any restart?
[17:59] <pheonixman> ZykoticK9, its not a cdrom, it my cdrive that has taken the icon of cdrom
[17:59] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, iwlist says no scan resulst on wlan0
[18:00] <SingAlong> Muelli: anyway to reset this thing to be able to login normally? I could login via ubuntu's recovery mode into the UI. but thats no the usual UNR.
[18:00] <ZykoticK9> OceanSurf, pheonixman - to both of you:  sorry I'm not sure ;)
[18:00] <Muelli> pheonixman: dunno. but is there a "autostart.ini" or anything in that cdrive that defines an icon? I don't even know if nautilus respects that, but it might.
[18:00] <Dug__> can anyone help me please ? ive had this problem for a week now and I cant find anyone willing to help :(
[18:00] <SingAlong> Muelli: When I try to use another desktop manager for login in normal mode it screws up.
[18:01] <OceanSurf> ill be back!
[18:01] <coz_> Rogue1,  your kidding?  darn...man something is definity up there... how large is your hard drive?
[18:01] <OceanSurf> going to restart now and see
[18:01] <Dug__> im completly new to linux i dont know what else i can do :(
[18:01] <Muelli> SingAlong: why don't you just move .local and .gconf and .gconfd, reboot and retry?
[18:01] <Muelli> Dug__: try an external mic first.
[18:01] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: mabe time to try windows again to be sure wifi works there.  if not it's broke
[18:01] <SingAlong> Muelli: hmm... havent rebooted after deleting them I'll try rebooting
[18:01] <Dug__> ok
[18:02] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, wifi works fine
[18:02] <coz_> Rogue1,  do you have a large hard drive??
[18:02] <Muelli> HaPK_PerCar: how could you check that so quickly? Anyway, check whether your chipsets are actually supported.
[18:02] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: then I guess it's broken try another ubuntu boot cd.  what version is this one?
[18:02] <Rogue1> coz_, no - had these problems with both a 20GB and a 120GB
[18:02] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, lucid
[18:03] <sorush20> when I try to log in to ubuntu gnome, my hdd just doesn't make any noise, and I can't load gnome, however I am able to load gnome failsafe. How do I repair this
[18:03] <coz_> Rogue1,  ok mm  I was hoping that the drive just needs a good wiping
[18:03] <HaPK_PerCar> Muelli,  how can I check that?
[18:03] <Dug__> Muelli, tried an external mic and the same result
[18:03] <SingAlong> Muelli: my netbook is rebooting. hope that fixes it. Coz I tried even re-installing the gdm
[18:04] <Muelli> HaPK_PerCar: Well. Find out which hardware you've got. lshw will tell you. Or dmesg. Then go and google.
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> OceanSurf (not currently here) - i wonder if the cdrom icon show because the drive's label starts with "cd"rive?
[18:04] <Dug__> sounds like there is interference of some sort when it plays back and the sound is breaking up
[18:04] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: did it work with older ubuntu?  there is also version 10.1 prerelease.  you should search google to see if your wifi device has a bad history  you can see what you have with lsusb or lspci
[18:04] <Muelli> SingAlong: jeez. you shouldn't need such a brutal method.
[18:04] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, iwconfig wlan0 says I'm connected to my router, but doesn't associates an acces point
[18:04] <SingAlong> Muelli: rebooted and the problem still exists
[18:04] <Muelli> Dug__: aha! There you go. So it's not necessaillry your internal mic.
[18:04] <kriss3d> Uhmm anyone here good with grub ? im having a problem with grub booting to a grub shell instead of the menu specified in menu.lst
[18:04] <Muelli> SingAlong: funny. hm. But it works for another user, right?
[18:04] <Dug__> i know i mentioned when i first entered the room i think it might be the driver
[18:05] <SingAlong> Muelli: ya other users its fine
[18:05] <Muelli> !grub | kriss3d
[18:05] <Dug__> like the alsa driver or something but im not sure because im new to linux :(
[18:05] <ZykoticK9> kriss3d, just to confirm.  You are using Grub1 and not Grub2 correct?
[18:05] <coz_> Rogue1, well all I can suggest is 1) go to the ##linux channle and explain the situation...2)  check in the bios  on this machine to see if any settings may be getting in the way... and 3)  download  Dban and do a complete wipe of the hard drive
[18:05] <Muelli> SingAlong: hm. funny indeed. so check the users .xsession-errors or dmesg or /var/log/messages.
[18:05] <Dug__> i tried updating my alsa driver today but it had no effect
[18:05] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: oh your accesspoint is in iwconfig?  then it works  you can now dhclient wlan0 and you up and running
[18:05] <Muelli> Dug__: uh. that might actualyl be the problem ;-)
[18:05] <SingAlong> Muelli: the .xsession-errors has some errors abt evolution
[18:05] <Dug__> but it was the same before updating
[18:05] <kriss3d> ZykoticK9, i belive i am using grub1. version 1.98.somthing
[18:06] <Muelli> SingAlong: well. what exactly?
[18:06] <systm> hi, I have a laptop thats running 10.04 and it's battery died during a reboot and now when i boot from grub with normal or recovery it gets a kernel panic, which i think has something to do with my hard drives not being fsck/umounted properly, what should i do?
[18:06] <Dug__> its been like it for one week and today i tried to update it ddidnt change anything
[18:06] <ZykoticK9> kriss3d, what ubuntu version are you using?  was it fresh installed?
[18:06] <Muelli> systm: well. what exactly is the error message ?
[18:06] <SingAlong> Muelli: do you want me to check demsg via the same user that crashes or via root? (i can login as the old user in term mode not via the desktop mode)
[18:06] <Dug__> either way it sounds the same
[18:06] <Muelli> SingAlong: doesn't matter :-) But you can "login" as the user on the console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) I hope.
[18:07] <systm> Muelli: let me reboot
[18:07] <ZykoticK9> kriss3d, FYI grub 1.98 is actually grub 2 - and thus you shouldn't be editing menu.lst
[18:07] <Dug__> any ideas on where i should go from here ?
[18:07] <kriss3d> ZykoticK9,  its an older core.Its for Backtrack 4. Im just having problems installing grub to the usb stick.. aparently the grub might be grub2 since its 1.98..
[18:07] <ZykoticK9> !backtrack | kriss3d
[18:07] <SingAlong> Muelli: ya thats what i meant. i can login as the problematic user via the console not the desktop. so hope i can reset the stuff to be able to login normally.
[18:08] <Muelli> Dug__: remove your custom driver and get the ubuntu stock kernel in place. Then try to adjust levels with  alsamixer  and pavucontrol. If that doesn't work, than I'd file a bug.
[18:08] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, no, it won't work. it says no dhcpoffers recived
[18:08] <SingAlong> Muelli: possible to do any kind of hard reset on desktop config? (keeping data in my home dir intact)
[18:08] <Muelli> SingAlong: get the error message.
[18:08] <Dug__> hmm :s how do i remove th updated driver and go back to the old one :s
[18:08] <kriss3d> ZykoticK9,  i know. i just figured this place might have some people who is good with grub. but seeing as it might be grub2 im having i at least have a clue where to begin.
[18:08] <Dug__> ive only just this week started using ubuntu
[18:09] <Muelli> SingAlong: well. moving .config out is pretty much a "reset". So try that, too.
[18:09] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > kriss3d good luck.
[18:09] <headkase314> !grub2 | kriss3d
[18:09] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: oh guess your right not asocieated,  then back and see if your hardware has a bad history in google.
[18:09] <Muelli> so Dug__, lesson 1: Don't mess around with the kernel stuff ;-) if you need elevated privileges, it mostly has a reason ;-)
[18:09] <SingAlong> Muelli: ya just checked the .config dirs. the only thing there that seems not-so-nice is chrome. but thats fine :D i'll try moving .config
[18:10] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, wireless is a realtek, I'll go search that
[18:10] <Muelli> SingAlong: get the error message from .xsession-errors.
[18:11] <Dug__> so where can i find out how to remove the updated alsa driver and go back to 1.0.21
[18:11] <Dug__> cus i updated to 1.0.23
[18:11] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: look for the partnumber returned from lsusb  (asume it's usb)  or lspci if not usb
[18:11] <SingAlong> Muelli: the xsession errors file seems to have gone blank now.
[18:11] <SingAlong> Muelli: well moving .config did no good
[18:11] <sacarlson> HaPK_PerCar: realtek makes 100's or wifi things just look for the one you have
[18:12] <ZykoticK9> !info alsa-base
[18:12] <ZykoticK9> Dug__, how did you update to that version?
[18:12] <Dravekx> are directory listings GROUP: USER, or USER: GROUP?
[18:12] <Dug__> i used this guide http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/ was just following all the terminal commands
[18:13] <Dug__> in the order he said
[18:13] <Muelli> Dravekx: eh, what exactly are you talking about? ls -l will show you user-group-other.
[18:13] <systm> Muelli: the top most error is "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at 0317d000
[18:13] <headkase314> Dug__, it's me is that you? x-Fi?
[18:13] <Muelli> systm: ouch. that looks terrible. Do you have anything weird installed, like vmware, virtualbox, other proprietary drivers?
[18:13] <Dravekx> Muelli, if I type ls -l, it is user-group-other?
[18:13] <systm> Muelli: nope
[18:13] <Dug__> x-Fi ? :s that isnt me
[18:13] <ZykoticK9> Dug__, that's manual compile/install stuff - sorry i have NO idea how to go about undoing those changes.  Best of luck.
[18:13] <Muelli> Dravekx: yes. cmp. "man ls"
[18:13] <Dravekx> k
[18:13] <Dug__> oh :/
[18:14] <Dug__> so basically im screwed lol
[18:14] <headkase314> Dug__, ok, cause last night I walked someone through the guide on that exact link and for him too it did not resolve the issue.
[18:14] <Dug__> ohh
[18:14] <Dug__> i only used that guide today
[18:14] <Dug__> like literly a few hrs ago lol it didnt make any effect
[18:14] <Dug__> do you know how i can undo it and go back to the old alsa driver ?
[18:15] <ZykoticK9> headkase314, Dug__ sticking to Repository based updates is often better then manually installing stuff.
[18:15] <Dug__> yeah i was desperate though i cant find an answer to my problem anywhere
[18:15] <ZykoticK9> headkase314, Dug__ i realize above is not always possible ;)
[18:15] <headkase314> Dug__, there are three packages that are compiled you may try to reinstall those exact three packages in synaptic.
[18:15] <Dug__> hmm ok so i search for alsa-driver in synaptic ? and install
[18:16] <systm> Muelli: any ideas?
[18:16] <c3po> Hi, i have acer laptop,  touch pad is not working, but previously it worked fine. any ideas?
[18:17] <ZykoticK9> Dug__, headkase314 that still might not replace the other/manually installed version...  you may start getting ugly conflicts without uninstalling the updated alsa stuff.
[18:17] <headkase314> Dug__, look at the guide and for the three files you downloaded find each one in synaptic and right-click and choose reinstall.  When all three are reinstalled reboot and type "cat /proc/asound/version" to make sure you are back to .21
[18:17] <SingAlong> c3po: acer??? same pinch. same pain
[18:17] <Dug__> ok
[18:17] <knopper> Good Evening,
[18:17] <kthomas_vh> any reason to have postgres running on my server if I don't know why it's running ;) ?
[18:17] <kthomas_vh> good evening knopper
[18:17] <headkase314> Dug__, this is flying by the seat of my pants so I hope it works and does not cause further issues.
[18:17] <HaPK_PerCar> sacarlson, hmm, it seems I have an old driver for it
[18:17] <HaPK_PerCar> anyway, I'll try some things
[18:18] <HaPK_PerCar> thanks for the help!
[18:18] <Dug__> so i guess this is one file i need to find and reinstall from the line
[18:18] <Dug__> wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.23.tar.bz2
[18:18] <c3po> SingAlong, acer 7520G
[18:18] <headkase314> Dug__, so in synaptic search for "alsa-driver" for that one.
[18:18] <Dug__> ok thanks :)
[18:18] <SingAlong> c3po: sorry cant help. I'm not a pro around.
[18:19] <knopper> May I trouble someone for some assistance?
[18:19] <muellisoft> knopper: sure :-)
[18:19] <muellisoft> !ask | knopper
[18:19] <Mbear> 10.04 I have to start CUPS with a sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart every time I want to use a network printer. CUPs doesnt seem to start automatically?
[18:19] <Dug__> i have an "alsa-base" no alsa-driver in there though :s
[18:19] <rasengan> Anyone know of a way to measure PPTP Traffic by IP?
[18:19] <Kwpolska> Mbear: you need to enable the service
[18:19] <knopper> My apologies.
[18:20] <Kwpolska> Mbear: try chkconfig cups on
[18:20] <Mbear> Kwpolska how?
[18:20] <Kwpolska> with sudo of course
[18:20] <Kwpolska> Mbear: sudo chkconfig cups on
[18:20] <headkase314> Dug__, I'm uncomfortable with proceeding then.  I don't want to break your system.
[18:20] <Dug__> hmm ok :/
[18:20] <SingAlong> Muelli: I figured out!!! its the problem in my bash_profile or profile or bashrc file
[18:20] <Dug__> i dunno what to do then
[18:20] <ZykoticK9> Kwpolska, Mbear i have no chkconfig on my system.
[18:20] <headkase314> Dug__, so what is your sound issue that prompted you to upgrade ALSA?
[18:20] <Dug__> basically
[18:20] <Muelli> SingAlong: :-) Yeah. Hm. I could have thought about that. But lucky you :-)
[18:20] <Dug__> i CNT ever use my microhpone unless i go back to windows : /
[18:21] <Netlynx> anyone tried ubuntu on Probook 5320m already?
[18:21] <knopper> I am looking for a way to list all the pdf files I have on this drive and add it to a txt file
[18:21] <Dug__> well when i playback sound from m microphone
[18:21] <Mbear> Nor me
[18:21] <Mbear> chkconfig not found
[18:21] <Dug__> it has some loud interference noise in the background
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> Dug__, do you happen to be using a EEE pc?
[18:21] <Kwpolska> ZykoticK9: Mbear: I'm not sure what is the tool in ubuntu, I heard that it's probably chkconfig, as in Fedora. Not sure.
[18:21] <Gerrin> anybody know the GNOME panel reset code
[18:21] <SingAlong> Muelli: i tried using those on my new user account and it threw my out like before but works now. i need to figure out which file that it
[18:21] <Muelli> knopper: for startes: find /path/to/drive -iname '*.pdf' >> /tmp/textfile
[18:21] <Dug__> dont think so :s
[18:21] <abhijit> Gerrin, gtk-window-decorator --replace
[18:21] <Dug__> im on a laptop with internal mic
[18:21] <Muelli> SingAlong: well. I'd go to a console and just log in and see.
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> Kwpolska, from fedora - no wonder i hadn't heard of it ;)  different in ubuntu.
[18:22] <Kwpolska> ZykoticK9: search google for replacements
[18:22] <SingAlong> Muelli: I'm just going to copy the files again one by one (just 3 files right) and figure out which file causes the problem
[18:22] <Dug__> any ideas why my mic does not record sound properly though, it records but with lots of intereference and the breaking up
[18:22] <Gerrin> that didnt work
[18:22] <Muelli> SingAlong: well. sounds way too complicated but as long as you have a way ... :-)
[18:22] <Dug__> i was told updating the alsa driver might help thats why i updated it today
[18:22] <ZykoticK9> Kwpolska, try to avoid giving others misleading information, if you don't know you don't have to answer ;)  take care man.
[18:23] <abhijit> !controls | Gerrin
[18:23] <bazhang> ZykoticK9, sudo apt-get install chkconfig
[18:23] <abhijit> Gerrin, see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1475584
[18:23] <headkase314> Dug__, if your sound output is working fine then keeping the updated ALSA may not be a problem and may not be the root issue
[18:23] <Muelli> Dug__: remove your drivers, adjust levels with alsamixer and pavucontrol and see.
[18:23] <r0drigu3z> hola
[18:23] <abhijit> hola
[18:23] <ZykoticK9> !panels | Gerrin
[18:23] <knopper> ..hundreds of books, I will let you know if it works in a few.  Thank you.
[18:23] <dri245> question: i have a folder .Trash-1000, in one of my partitions. is this the recycle bin for that partition, or can i delete it?
[18:23] <abhijit> :(
[18:23] <Dug__> i dont know how to remove the drivers on linux :/
[18:23] <r0drigu3z> hi...
[18:24] <Muelli> dri245: yes and yes
[18:24] <Dug__> headkase314, yeah my sound output is working fine, youtube and music etc all plays back np
[18:24] <dri245> so i can delete the recicle bin, Muelli ?
[18:24] <Dug__> its just my mic that wont work properly
[18:24] <ZykoticK9> bazhang, i'm not really having an issue - someone else was and Kwpolska suggested chkconfig as a solution.  i was trying to help the person with the origional issue avoid confusion :)  thanks though.
[18:24] <Muelli> dri245: sure you can.
[18:24] <JackomoLight> Anybody knows how to set up the WIRELESS on BackTRACK 4? Here is my adap: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[18:24] <Mbear> OK, so I have found bum instead of chkconfig  ... cups isn't listed in it
[18:25] <bazhang> !backtrack | JackomoLight
[18:25] <bazhang> JackomoLight, I've told you before bt is not supported here
[18:25] <dri245> why would that be possible, Muelli ? it's like a system file
[18:25] <Mbear> OK.. sorry cups is listed in bum, is checked for auto start and is running
[18:25] <JackomoLight> I`m sorry Iam bothering you again
[18:25] <JackomoLight> I`ve just tried everything
[18:25] <Muelli> dri245: O_o is it really...? I thought it's just a regular folder...
[18:25] <bazhang> JackomoLight, #backtrack-linux
[18:25] <JackomoLight> and I am still failing
[18:26] <Dug__> hello ?
[18:26] <headkase314> Dug__, Muelli suggested "alsamixer" in a console, can you make any adjustments there related to your microphone?  Also "gstreamer-properties" in a console will give you some sound related options to experiment with.
[18:26] <dri245> meh...
[18:26] <pheonixman> i am getting this error while deleting a folder "Device or resource busy"
[18:26] <dri245> any helper around?
[18:26] <Dug__> ive trie alsamixer it had no effect the interference sound is still there
[18:26] <Dug__> but not sure how to open it in console i used it with the gui
[18:26] <abhijit> !ask | dri245
[18:27] <SingAlong> Muelli: my .profile is the problem!!!
[18:27] <Dug__> and havent tried anything with gstreamer-properties i need to install it ?
[18:27] <headkase314> Dug__, to open a console go to Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[18:27] <headkase314> Dug__, then type "gstreamer-properties" there without the quotes
[18:27] <abhijit> ahh :(
[18:27] <Muelli> Dug__: Press Alt+F2, type "gnome-terminal" and just enter "gstreamer-properties". You'll get further instructions if you need any
[18:27] <abhijit> !pm | dri245
[18:27] <Dug__> ok
[18:27] <dri245> abhijit, i have a folder .Trash-1000, in one of my partitions. is this the recycle bin for that partition, or can i delete it?
[18:27] <Muelli> dri245: yes and yes
[18:28] <pheonixman> any helper out there..?
[18:28] <headkase314> Dug__, and of course press Enter to execute the command!
[18:28] <Muelli> !ask | pheonixman
[18:28] <abhijit> !trash | dri245
[18:28] <Dug__> ok
[18:28] <pheonixman> i am getting this error while deleting a folder "Device or resource busy"
[18:28] <Dug__> i have gstreamer properties my input plugin was set to custom
[18:28] <Dug__> should i change this to alsa ?
[18:29] <Muelli> Dug__: just play aruond with it
[18:29] <PCChris> I'm trying to add a shared printer located on an XP box in Ubuntu 10.04 using system-config-printer, but I keep getting a CUPS server error:  "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-possible'.
[18:29] <headkase314> Dug__, can you change the input to reflect your actual mic?  In the device section what are your choices?
[18:29] <Dug__> ok
[18:29] <dri245> abhijit, so can i delete it? i'm asking to know if i may or not, since i want to, but i don't wanna ruin smth, since i'm new to ubuntu. in win, recycle bin was a system file and such...
[18:29] <Muelli> Auto is the best choice though I guess
[18:29] <Muelli> dri245: it is not. I've just told you.
[18:29] <abhijit> dri245, I am not sure.
[18:29] <dri245> i don't like your arrogance, Muelli, therefore i asked for someone else.
[18:29] <dri245> thanks tho, i'll get back later.
[18:29] <Muelli> dri245: *shrug*
[18:30] <Dug__> headkase314,  my device is ALC662 rev1 analog if i choose the alsa input
[18:30] <Dug__> i will close it then test it
[18:30] <adminewb> is there a simple way a la ICS in WinXP, to set up an Ubuntu desktop station to act as a router?
[18:30] <PCChris> I'm trying to add a shared printer located on an XP box in Ubuntu 10.04 using system-config-printer, but I keep getting a CUPS server error:  "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-possible'.
[18:30] <SingAlong> Muelli: http://pastie.org/1094077 thats my .profile causing the problem. any help with that?
[18:30] <pheonixman> Muelli, did you get my question.?
[18:30] <kamranOman> anyone has UBUNTU presentation
[18:30] <kamranOman> i need to give in a university
[18:30] <kamranOman> OR ...
[18:30] <headkase314> Dug__, try it but don't use the gstreamer-properties "test" button, go to the application that is giving you trouble and try there after changing and applying the setting.
[18:31] <Muelli> pheonixman: dunno. But did you get my question?
[18:31] <abhijit> kamranOman, its in your example folder
[18:31] <Dug__> hmm its a lot better but still has some interference in the background ill try messing with the alsamixer now becuase the interference is a lot less
[18:31] <kamranOman> is there document , that tells us SALES BENEFITS over WINDOWS deployment
[18:31] <kamranOman> ?
[18:31] <headkase314> Dug__, excellent keep posting here as needed.
[18:31] <Muelli> SingAlong: yes. export foo=bar, no spaces
[18:31] <pheonixman> Muelli, i just asked my doubt
[18:31] <abhijit> kamranOman, see windows7sins.org
[18:31] <Dug__> ok :)
[18:31] <Mbear> CUPS doesn't start automatically on boot.  I am using BUM to confirm that CUPS is checked (for auto-start) but it's not running after a clean boot.
[18:31] <pheonixman> Muelli, or rather i told my problem..
[18:31] <pheonixman> Muelli, should i ask it again..?
[18:31] <Muelli> SingAlong: but check .bash_profile, too.
[18:32] <Muelli> pheonixman: sure :-)
[18:32] <Dug__> quick question when i change alsamixer settings inside terminal i need to close terminal to save it or ?
[18:32] <SingAlong> Muelli: ya checked those 2 and bashrc too. those dont have problems
[18:32] <Muelli> Dug__: just exist alsamixer with escape
[18:32] <Dug__> ok
[18:32] <pheonixman> Muelli, i am getting this error of "Device or resources busy" while deleting a folder
[18:32] <sarge1221> Quick question but is there any kind of gui based software out there to double check that a ISO image has been successfully burned to disk? not talking about md5sum but ensuring the disk itself is not corrupt.
[18:32] <abhijit> ahh :( :( :(   :'(
[18:32] <abhijit> !pm | kamranOman
[18:33] <Dug__> my god its tons better lol
[18:33] <Dug__> still some interference but you can make out what im saying now ;D
[18:33] <Dug__> so i guess not its just to mess with the settings
[18:33] <Muelli> sarge1221: well md5sum is probably the most efficient method.
[18:33] <Muelli> Dug__: congrats :-)
[18:33] <Dug__> i just had to open gstreamer in terminal and select the right settings for the input :D
[18:33] <knopper> it worked, thank you.  Is there a way to just list the file name?  Or should I just open it in gnumeric and chop the path?
[18:33] <Dug__> thanks guys :D :D :D :D
[18:33] <sarge1221> Muelli: wait can you test the disk using md5sum?
[18:33] <Dug__> now my laptop is working 100% with linux :D
[18:34] <headkase314> Dug__, awesome! you're welcome! ;)
[18:34] <abhijit> !yay | Dug__
[18:34] <Dug__> :D
[18:34] <Muelli> sarge1221: sure
[18:34] <Dug__> finally ive made th change from windows to ubuntu and it all works :P
[18:34] <Muelli> knopper: sure there is a way. Welcome to the world of shellscripting :-) check "basename".
[18:34] <Dug__> no more viruses or having to defrag goodbye windows ;D
[18:34] <sarge1221> Muelli: I know the iso image itself is fine before burning so how do you test it again after the image is burned to disk?
[18:34] <adminewb> Is there a simple way a la ICS in WinXP, to set up an Ubuntu desktop station to act as a router?
[18:34] <Jordan_U> kamranOman: For what use (server, desktop, enterprise)? These may be usefull: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/case-studies
[18:34] <abhijit> Dug__, cheers for Linux!!!
[18:34] <knopper> Gotcha
[18:34] <Dug__> :P
[18:35] <Muelli> sarge1221: I'd do a md5sum /dev/cdrom
[18:35] <Aemaeth> why does my friend lose the ability to click youtube videos?
[18:35] <abhijit> Aemaeth, its flash bug.
[18:35] <Muelli> adminewb: yes. NetowkrManager supports sharing IIRC.
[18:35] <Dug__> quick question though, do i always have to have the pulseaudio applet running on my desktop to keep my sound working as it should ?
[18:35] <henrikj> Hello, i need a script to be run when people logon to a ubuntu desktop machine. It should be a global change for all user accounts
[18:36] <Muelli> henrikj: hm. /etc/profile might be your thing. Or stuff in /etc/env.d/
[18:36] <SingAlong> Muelli: fixed! thanks a million times!
[18:36] <headkase314> Dug__, try closing it and see - once configured I would expect you wouldn't need it open - just try!
[18:36] <robertzaccour> can i use a live cd to test out my printer?
[18:36] <Muelli> SingAlong: was it the spaces? :-)
[18:36] <adminewb> Muelli thanks much
[18:36] <Muelli> robertzaccour: yes
[18:36] <Mbear>  CUPS doesn't start automatically on boot.  I am using BUM to confirm that CUPS is checked (for auto-start) but it's not running after a clean boot.
[18:36] <robertzaccour> Muelli, ok thanks
[18:36] <SingAlong> Muelli: rule-n -> never let anyone screw with your user account. especially windows fanboys
[18:36] <sarge1221> Muelli: okay so in terminal i would put /dev/cdrom and it will run a md5sum on the disks iso image then?
[18:36] <Dug__> ok :)
[18:36] <Dug__> thanks
[18:37] <CaptainKnots> does anyone know why the power icon in 10.10 alpha3 is missing? I tried resetting my gnome panels to default and it didn't fix that
[18:37] <Muelli> sarge1221: That's what I'd expect, yes.
[18:37] <henrikj> Muelli: thanks, does that run on GUI logon? cos i used /etc/bash.bashrc and it only run once the users started a terminal
[18:37] <headkase314> Dug__, You're welcome, made my day too! ;)
[18:37] <Muelli> uh henrikj. good point. To be honest, I don't really know. But who doesn't run a shell? ;-)
[18:37] <sarge1221> Muelli: thanks man didn't know you could use it to check the disk too thanks a bunch.
[18:37] <bazhang> CaptainKnots, #ubuntu+1 for Maverick
[18:37] <henrikj> Muelli: these users dont im afraid xD
[18:38] <karlo> how I can see my computer details ? (like CPU, processor....)
[18:38] <Muelli> sarge1221: well. that's kinda Linux. "Everything is a file", even drives. Although that philosophy is not followed that closely anymore ;-)
[18:38] <bazhang> karlo, sudo lshw
[18:38] <karlo> ty
[18:38] <rebecca_> ubuntu 10.0.4  live cd is not booting up for a fresh install - i currently havw 10.10
[18:38] <Muelli> henrikj: Well. Just check, I'd say. You could also change stuff in the GDM config, I guess. But I dunno where that is. Maybe /etc/gdm/ or so...
[18:39] <henrikj> Muelli: i will check that, thanks :)
[18:39] <rebecca_> any ideas guys
[18:40] <aeon-ltd> rebecca_: check bios
[18:40] <henrikj> Muelli: /etc/gdm/PostLogin was exactly what i needed so sweeeeeeet thanks!! This is saving me a great hassle.
[18:41] <rebecca_> i checked the bios its all ok set to boot from cd - i tried ubuntu server edition and that boots fine
[18:41] <Muelli> henrikj: :-) Glad it helped
[18:41] <c3l>  where can I read more about how *-*-*-font-*-*-*-*-* works?
[18:41] <aeon-ltd> rebecca_: have you used the disc before?
[18:41] <rebecca_> i have the iso image the problem is that it will take forever to download from the internet again
[18:41] <rebecca_> no first time using the dis
[18:42] <rebecca_> how can i check or write to disk again and ensure that its going to be bootable
[18:42] <aeon-ltd> rebecca_: reburn the disk, and md5 sum the iso
[18:42] <Jordan_U> rebecca_: What happens when you try to boot from it? How did you burn the disk?
[18:43] <beppo> hello, my system is lagging hard when accessing the harddisk after upgrade from karmic to lucid
[18:43] <beppo> anyone some idea why?
[18:43] <rebecca_> i dropped the image on the disk and burnt it - how do i md5 sum the iso
[18:43] <DasEi> rebecca_: md5sum  Some.iso
[18:43] <PCChris> I'm trying to add a shared printer located on an XP box in Ubuntu 10.04 using system-config-printer, but I keep getting a CUPS server error:  "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-possible'.
[18:43] <Dug__> i have to log now guys got some stuff to do but thanks a lot for the help :)
[18:43] <rebecca_> im currently using 10.10 - is there anyway of running the cd from here
[18:43] <DasEi> !md5sum > rebecca_
[18:44] <DasEi> rebecca_: yes, see :
[18:44] <DasEi> !iso
[18:44] <eastDNA> hi anyone frm india here
[18:44] <PCChris> any suggestions?
[18:44] <rebecca_> im trying this now
[18:44] <xangua> !in | eastDNA
[18:46] <HoopyFrood> can I have some help?
[18:47] <aeon-ltd> !ask | HoopyFrood
[18:47] <c3l> where can I read more about how *-*-*-font-*-*-*-*-* works?
[18:47] <randyrkelly> how do i install a tgz
[18:47] <rebecca_> i right clicked on the disk and clicked check - with the md5 and it was successfulll
[18:47] <rebecca_> any other ideas
[18:48] <PCChris> ?
[18:48] <xangua> randyrkelly: what do you want to instal¿
[18:48] <sarge1221> Muelli: here is what i got. 791466a92948a5bd69555698cd20032c     791466a92948a5bd69555698cd20032c <after download from internet     86b9c4ffffb75cf239affbcf3dd7d8d1 <After burn to disk
[18:48] <jpds> c3l: Can you stop doing that please?
[18:49] <Muelli> well sarge1221. Doesn't look too good then I guess :-/
[18:49] <xangua> do what¿ c3l what do you exactly want¿
[18:49] <randyrkelly> android sdk
[18:49] <sarge1221> Muelli: If i keep getting high failure rates on burn what can I do to reduce failed burns?
[18:49] <dhani> hi there...
[18:49] <Muelli> sarge1221: uh. burn more slowly.
[18:49] <randyrkelly> xangua, ^^^
[18:50] <dhani> i tried to play warcraft using Wine on Ubuntu but its just soooooo slooooow.... can this be fixed???
[18:50] <PCChris> I'm trying to add a shared printer located on an XP box in Ubuntu 10.04 using system-config-printer, but I keep getting a CUPS server error:  "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-possible'.
[18:50] <xangua> !appdb | dhani
[18:50] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[18:51] <headkase314> dhani, see this guide -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[18:51] <xangua> randyrkelly: no idea, isn't there a manual in the file or in it's web¿
[18:51] <randyrkelly> no
[18:51] <sarge1221> Muelli: If i took it down to the lowest possible would that be good or is that just as bad as too fast?
[18:51] <Muelli> sarge1221: the slower the safer.
[18:51] <Ridpojken> Need some help with soundcards here, anyone?
[18:51] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:52] <headkase314> !ask Ridpojken
[18:52] <headkase314> !ask | Ridpojken
[18:52] <sarge1221> Muelli: okay good to hear you saved me a lot of wtf questions on why a bunch of linux distros fail at splash screen boot XD
[18:53] <Muelli> sarge1221: glad to have helped :-)
[18:53] <Ridpojken> headkase314: I know, it's kind of a complex problem, so i thought that if some sound guru like my self got any spare time
[18:53] <headkase314> !details | Ridpojken
[18:53] <Rogue1> Hmm...Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop install from livecd works ok, but system freezes on trying to upgrade to 9.10 - any ideas?
[18:54] <headkase314> Ridpojken, so whats up?
[18:54] <sebsebseb> Rogue1: yep
[18:54] <sebsebseb> Rogue1: loads of people had issues upgrading 9.04 to 9.10
[18:54] <c3l> xangua: I want to understand how to use that kind of font settings
[18:55] <PCChris> any ideas?
[18:55] <sebsebseb> PCChris: maybe if you repeate, the issue, I just joined
[18:55] <PCChris> I'm trying to add a shared printer located on an XP box in Ubuntu 10.04 using system-config-printer, but I keep getting a CUPS server error:  "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-possible'.
[18:55] <ratdog> alloha
[18:56] <HoopyFrood> Rougue1: can you back up your data, and then clean install, then reinstall your programs from the backup?
[18:56] <Ridpojken> headkase314: 1. ubuntu can't find my onboard soundcard but it finds my Soundblaster Live card 2. When i try to go to the sound prefs i get stuck at a message "Waiting for sound system to respond" forever
[18:56] <sebsebseb> PCChris: don't know, this might be helpful though
[18:56] <sebsebseb> !cups | PCChris
[18:56] <Rogue1> sebsebseb, had this problem  for a while - attempts to install  from 9.10 or 10.04, be it desktop livecd or alternative cd, fail or bring up nothing but a blinking cursor. Running an SiS 315PRO graphics, built into motherboard. Need to be  running 10.04, but can't even  seem to get the upgrade to work - package manager simply freezes and the whole system hangs
[18:56] <janisozaur> !ssh > cesc
[18:56] <sebsebseb> Rogue1: ah yes SIS graphics cards
[18:56] <Aemaeth> my printer was easy to setup...but   it was a network printer
[18:56] <sebsebseb> Rogue1: now those tend to cause issues with Linux distros, or at least Ubuntu, it seems
[18:57] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[18:58] <headkase314> Ridpojken, Go to: System > Preferences > Sound.  Your detected hardware will be listed under the various tabs.  Is the hardware you are trying to use there but not chosen?
[18:58] <dhani> thanks for those who helped me...
[18:58] <headkase314> cesc, how did the driver go?
[18:58] <sebsebseb> Rogue1: Why do you want 10.04?
[18:58] <Ridpojken> headkase314: But i can't get in to the sound prefs. I get stuck at the "waiting for sound system" thing...
[18:59] <sebsebseb> Rogue1: 9.04 is still good untill end of October when support runs out, and 8.04 has untill the end of April next year, and thats still a good version
[18:59] <Rogue1> sebsebseb: just prefer to be up-to-date. find some packages don't seem to be available in add/remove programs, etc. etc.
[18:59] <headkase314> Ridpojken, go to: Applications > Accessories > Terminal and in the terminal type "gstreamer-properties" without the quotes and press enter.  In the device section for the sound output can you select your wanted device there?
[19:00] <Rogue1> sebsebseb: system ran fine using VortexBox (vortexbox.org, based on Fedora Core 11) - but I've been plagued with problems since trying to get Ubuntu on it :(
[19:00] <pheonixman> when i try to delete a folder, it gives me the error "Device or Resource busy" ...any help
[19:00] <sebsebseb> Rogue1: vortexbox ?
[19:00] <sebsebseb> Rogue1: you had Fedora 11 on there?
[19:01] <Ridpojken> headkase314: under the alsa plug in, yes
[19:01] <Rogue1> sebsebseb: no, I had VortexBox on there (jukebox/media streaming server) - which is built on FC11
[19:01] <sebsebseb> Rogue1: oh
[19:01] <_Pb> has anyone here installed ubuntu, then another distro, and wasn't able to boot back into ubuntu?
[19:01] <HoopyFrood> is it a problem in grub?
[19:02] <headkase314> Ridpojken, does your onboard sound now function correct if you choose it?  And can you now go into the regular sound properties without it hanging?
[19:02] <_Pb> i think so
[19:02] <sarge1221> Muelli: what happens if you get this message when you try to md5sum a disk?  sarge1221@Darkmotion:~$ md5sum /dev/cdrom                        md5sum: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error
[19:02] <_Pb> HoopyFrood: also, i can't seem to mount or fsck my ubuntu partition
[19:02] <Muelli> sarge1221: hm. I'd say an Input/Output error happened ;-)
[19:02] <ZykoticK9> _Pb, just an FYI, but whatever grub you installed most recently, is probably in control - so you'll probably have to configure grub in whatever the "other" os is.
[19:02] <sarge1221> Muelli: what does that mean?
[19:02] <Muelli> sarge1221: if you didn't remove the disk yourself then your drive might be faulty.
[19:02] <HoopyFrood> _Pb: try making a grub rescue disk (google it) or use an ubuntu live cd
[19:02] <headkase314> Ridpojken, after changing to your onboard sound see if regular properties still hangs
[19:03] <_Pb> HoopyFrood: ok
[19:03] <ath_> I'm looking for a gnome panel applet to give me sys info, ie: cpu, ram, hdd, network device info, in a simple text format, preferrably a 'gnome panel' applet, anyone know of one?
[19:03] <Ridpojken> headkase314: I can see my sounblaster card or CA0106 that ubuntu calls it, the onboard card is not there.
[19:03] <Ridpojken> headkase314: And no, the sound pref is still "jammed"
[19:03] <sarge1221> Muelli: it auto removed the disk after the burn. i stuck disk back in to check it and got that.
[19:03] <HoopyFrood> _Pb: then reinstall grub
[19:03] <headkase314> Ridpojken, what happens if you test the device in gstreamer-properties?
[19:03] <ZykoticK9> _Pb, reinstalling Grub from Ubuntu might be a good idea (hopefully it will autodetect the other linux during setup)
[19:03] <Ridpojken> headkase314: I get a sound
[19:03] <kamranOman> guys....
[19:03] <kamranOman> what do we have CLAM AV in UBUNTU 10.04 ?
[19:03] <Aemaeth> ?
[19:04] <PCChris> sebsebseb:  Thanks for the links.  I think I might not have the proper Samba packages...just installed smbclient; will see if it works
[19:04] <kamranOman> like windows we can test our AV or IS software using EICAR files...
[19:04] <ZykoticK9> _Pb, you don't need a "grub rescue disk" btw, a livecd would be preferred
[19:04] <kamranOman> how can i test on UBUNTU ?
[19:04] <headkase314> Ridpojken, that's good.  If you can't use the regular sound properties after the successful test in gstreamer-properties do other applications now have proper sound?
[19:04] <voxyn> Hello
[19:04] <sarge1221> Muelli: good chance it might be faulty then? I have for the paste few tried to burn a bunch of ISO's and the only one to actually make through was tinycore XD
[19:04] <voxyn> I have a question can i aisk it here?
[19:04] <_Pb> ZykoticK9: thanks, i'll try that
[19:05] <Muelli> sarge1221: yeah. sounds pretty much like your drive is broken :-/
[19:05] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > _Pb
[19:05] <synackfin> there's some rogue user-space code that's allocating huge memory (I noticed during strace some mmap calls for 500MB);  I want to breakpoint all "mmap" calls so I can get a stacktrace, is this possible?
[19:05] <HoopyFrood> ZykotickK9: Its the easiest way to determine if the problem is Grub or not
[19:05] <Muelli> sarge1221: check demsg though.
[19:05] <_Pb> thanks!
[19:05] <Muelli> sarge1221: dmesg  even
[19:05] <sarge1221> Muelli: how do oyu check demsg or dmesg?
[19:05] <Muelli> synackfin: yes.
[19:05] <Muelli> sarge1221: open a terminal, type "dmesg"
[19:05] <voxyn> i want to experiment with the kde window manager if i install it will it make ubuntu much slower or will it not effect the performance?
[19:06] <Ridpojken> headkase314: Yup
[19:06] <ZykoticK9> voxyn, minimal to no effect
[19:06] <_Pb> ZykoticK9, HoopyFrood: oh man, i was doing something stupid and just figured it out. i'll still try that to get ubuntu to show up on the boot list though, thanks!
[19:06] <headkase314> Ridpojken, ok does that resolve a "no sound" condition for you and a separate issue is that the regular sound properties hangs?
[19:06] <voxyn> okey what is the best way to install kde?
[19:06] <ZykoticK9> _Pb, don't fix what isn't broken ;)
[19:06] <voxyn> can you install it from the ubuntu  software manager?
[19:07] <pheonixman> anyone out there to help...?
[19:07] <_Pb> true
[19:07] <Ober7> !ask | pheonixman
[19:07] <Ridpojken> headkase314: The reason why i'm trying to get in to the sound prefs is because i want to record from my line input
[19:07] <Ridpojken> headkase314: The problem is, i get no sound
[19:08] <xangua> voxyn: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:08] <ZykoticK9> voxyn, install kubuntu-desktop for all kde/kubuntu stuff
[19:08] <Muelli> Ridpojken: check alsamixer, pavucontrol and gstreamer-properties
[19:08] <pheonixman> Ober7, i am trying to delete a folder, its giving me the error "Device or resource busy"
[19:08] <headkase314> Ridpojken, in gstreamer-properties there is also an input section - can you change it there?  I ask because I don't know how to resolve the regular sound properties hanging.
[19:08] <kamranOman> again i  ask ...
[19:08] <sarge1221> Muelli: dmesg> http://pastebin.com/wkT5GYRZ
[19:08] <kamranOman> anyone knows how to test AV in UBUNTU
[19:08] <kamranOman> I have KLAMAV updated...
[19:08] <sarge1221> Muelli: how do you check demsg?
[19:08] <kamranOman> i can test things in :"windows " ...using EICAR file..
[19:09] <kamranOman> but can i do the same in UBUNTU...
[19:09] <kamranOman> ?
[19:09] <voxyn> zykotick9: thanks a lot! going to install it now! bye
[19:09] <Ridpojken> headkase314: What does the input Test button does? Does it monitor the input to the output?
[19:09] <ikonia> kamranOman: what do you wish to test ?
[19:09] <Muelli> sarge1221: yeah. looks bad :-( [ 3583.644814] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
[19:09] <PCChris> sebsebseb:  was missing smbclient package.  It's working now, thanks.
[19:09] <kamranOman> AV is working or not ? effectiveness....konia
[19:09] <headkase314> Ridpojken, I've never had success with the input test - I just set it to the mic and use a different program to test.
[19:09] <ikonia> kamranOman: AV works different in linux
[19:09] <ikonia> !antivirus > kamranOman
[19:09] <headkase314> Ridpojken, or line-in in your case.
[19:09] <sebsebseb> PCChris: ok :)
[19:09] <synackfin> Muelli: ?
[19:10] <headkase314> Ridpojken, but the line-in may be labeled as "Microphone 1" or 2 or so on, test them all.
[19:10] <c3l> where can I read more about how this kind of font configuration works? *-*-*-font-*-*-*-*-*
[19:10] <Aemaeth> i guess you could download a virus and scan the file? EICAR means nothing to me
[19:10] <Muelli> synackfin: just attach a debugger and break on your desired function. You could also ptrace it manually if you like.
[19:10] <Ridpojken> headkase314: My inputs isn't labeled in gstreamer, so i need to test witch one of them is the line in
[19:10] <sarge1221> Muelli: T_T can you offer some insight in what causes disk drives to go bad? also you can explain how you check demsg? I keep this info for furture reference.
[19:10] <wolfric_> how can i get into a serial terminal?
[19:10] <kamranOman> how to get a virus download
[19:11] <kamranOman> or make a virus script ?
[19:11] <headkase314> Ridpojken, what is the input sound system and what are the choices given for the devices?
[19:11] <Aemaeth> Ridpojken, headkase314 has a good point, once you get into your sounds settings my proper line input was mic 2 not mic 1 which was default
[19:11] <Muelli> wolfric_: you can use screen on your serial device, i.e. screen /dev/ttyS0
[19:11] <ikonia> wolfric_: do you want access to a serial termainal, or do you just want a terminal to access
[19:11] <Ridpojken> headkase314: ALSA, and i got four "CA0106" to choose from
[19:12] <wolfric_> ikonia: serial
[19:12] <headkase314> Ridpojken, that sounds hopeful - test each one and see if one succeeds?
[19:12] <ikonia> wolfric_: local serial, or remote machine
[19:12] <Ridpojken> headkase314: I've tried the test thing, no sound
[19:12] <headkase314> Ridpojken, test with a different program, not gstreamer-properties test button.. ?
[19:12] <wolfric_> ikonia: local....
[19:13] <Ridpojken> headkase314: I've tried the sound recorder too, it just says i don't got proper codecs/plugins
[19:13] <ziggy> my hardrive is f´ing up, i fscked my root and home partition and there were tons of errors and now my system is once again freezing up, anyone have any clue whats happening (dmesg output http://pastebin.com/tWPyiKGp ) any help would be appreciated
[19:13] <headkase314> Ridpojken, sound recorder not having the proper plugins is a separate issue.  What other program that you have installed can test audio input?
[19:13] <ikonia> wolfric_: http://www.howtoforge.com/setting_up_a_serial_console
[19:14] <goranka> On laptop+tracpad with Win7, can drag windows easier after double tap, how can config same in ubuntu?
[19:14] <Ridpojken> i got a quite advaced radio automation suite called Rivendell, but it takes a while to configure it to another alsa input...
[19:14] <headkase314> Ridpojken, I'm not sure but I think "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" may help with sound recorder - but I am not sure on that for the plugins/codecs.. !
[19:15] <ZykoticK9> ziggy, "I/O error, dev sda" is NOT a good sign.  I'd backup any files ASAP if I where you.
[19:15] <sebsebseb> !language | ziggy
[19:15] <headkase314> Ridpojken, I'm not at an Ubuntu system right now can anyone else suggest a program to test sound input?
[19:15] <ziggy> zyk, you think the drives about to die?
[19:16] <ZykoticK9> !tab > ziggy
[19:16] <ZykoticK9> ziggy, yes
[19:16] <janisozaur> can I control LEDs in my laptop manually? it's hp 8510p
[19:16] <YertleTheTurtle> I'm looking for the menu shown in this blog post: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html but the System > Pref > sound menu is different now (Running 10.04) could anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:16] <headkase314> What is a good program that can be apt-get installed to test sound input?
[19:16] <no_u0> hello anyone here used Charles reverse proxy on ubuntu?
[19:16] <YertleTheTurtle> headkase314, sound recorder should be pre-installed
[19:16] <Aemaeth> headkase314, skype?
[19:17] <headkase314> YertleTheTurtle, do you know how to resolve the issue of not installed plugins/codecs for sound recorder?  Thank you/
[19:17] <janisozaur> headkase314: volume prefernces can serve some information about input status
[19:17] <no_u0> when i open charles, i get the loading screen, but when it closes, the app doesnt come up
[19:17] <YertleTheTurtle> headkase314, no idea sorry
[19:17] <no_u0> but the process is still runnng
[19:17] <headkase314> janisozaur, volume preferences is hanging when started - I'm asking for Ridpojken
[19:18] <no_u0> or anyone know of another Reverse proxy server i can Use?
[19:18] <ZykoticK9> headkase314, YertleTheTurtle try selecting OGG as output format!  not mp3 etc
[19:18] <ZykoticK9> Ridpojken, see above
[19:18] <headkase314> Ridpojken, as ZykoticK9 says?
[19:18] <kamranOman> I am unable to find SIZZLING templates in OPEN OFFICE
[19:19] <kamranOman> i found the templates but they are no match to msoffice templates
[19:19] <kamranOman> anyone can guide me to download more templates
[19:19] <kamranOman> like business templates
[19:19] <kamranOman> project mgmt
[19:19] <kamranOman> operational mgmt.
[19:19] <cesc_> hey again. I just finally installed the drivers for my usb wireless adapter (Alfa Network AWUS036H) following janisozaur instructions. I just rebooted the machine after following readme instructions... but there is no wireless extensions when I type iwconfig
[19:19] <FloodBot3> kamranOman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:19] <kamranOman> documentation type
[19:19] <kamranOman> etc...
[19:19] <Ridpojken> headkase314: ZykoticK9: I'll try that
[19:19] <dri245> abhijit, i have a folder .Trash-1000, in one of my partitions. is this the recycle bin for that partition, or can i delete it? i want to know if i may delete it since i want too, if the recycle bin can work good without it as well. but as in windows recycle bin files were system, i don't wanna ruin my installation or smth
[19:19] <cesc_> now I'm wired connected to the internet.
[19:19] <dri245> can anyone help with this one please?
[19:20] <abhijit> i cant.
[19:20] <GothSpark> dri245 you judt found the linux dustbin :)
[19:20] <shucky> hi
[19:20] <GothSpark> just*
[19:20] <jure_> when I plug my headphones into my laptop, Ubuntu doesn't mute the speakers. why?
[19:20] <Ridpojken> headkase314: "Could not capture using the "CD qual........" audio profile. Please verify it's settigs. You may be missing the necessary plug-ins
[19:20] <headkase314> cesc_, ask someone who knows (I don't know how to check this) if the driver you installed is loaded in your kernel?
[19:20] <ZykoticK9> dri245, you should probably empty the trash properly for the drive in question - over manually deleting the folder
[19:21] <YertleTheTurtle> I'm looking for the menu shown in this blog post: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html but the System > Pref > sound menu is different now (Running 10.04) could anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:21] <Aemaeth> jure_, cause it doesn't know yu want to mute your speakers
[19:21] <dri245> trash is empty anyway, ZykoticK9 . and that folder has 3 items in it. i do NOT mean to empty the bin by deleting items manually. i mean if i MAY delete that folder or if that folder is a system folder
[19:21] <cesc_> anyone know how to check if the driver I installed is loaded in my kernel?
[19:21] <headkase314> Ridpojken, can you change the format anywhere to OGG?  I'm on a Windows machine so it is very difficult for me to know exactly where the settings are.. ?
[19:21] <mr_daniel> Following is failing for me: 'g++ ... -lexecinfo'. It seems like I am missing execinfo library and execinfo.h header file. Where can I find the header file? I work under ubuntu 10.04, which package do I need to install?
[19:21] <DasEi> cesc_: lsmod
[19:22] <janisozaur> headkase314: lsmod shoud list r8187l
[19:22] <jure_> how do I fix this, Aemaeth?
[19:22] <Aemaeth> YertleTheTurtle, gstreamer-preferences looks like that to me
[19:22] <janisozaur> cesc_: see above
[19:22] <Ridpojken> headkase314: I've tried OGG, same message
[19:22] <kamranOman> how can i get professional grade samples of open office templates. MS Office 2007 templates are good, i need similar grade stuff or atleast competitive material for writing ....business related material docs.
[19:22] <paulo> Oi
[19:22] <paulo> tem alguem ai?
[19:22] <cesc_> yes I just typed this on terminal window...
[19:22] <janisozaur> !es | paulo
[19:22] <cfra> any easy way to get rid of pulse ?
[19:22] <cesc_> let me put the output in a pastbin for you guys.
[19:22] <DasEi> !br | paulo
[19:23] <paulo> I am is Brasilian
[19:23] <paulo> Not talk English =-(
[19:23] <DasEi> paulo: see above
[19:23] <headkase314> Ridpojken, What we are attempting right now is getting a different program other than gstreamer-properties to take sound input.  Once a suitable program is found then in gstreamer-properties we will go through each of the four listed devices and test each one.  That is high-level, now lower than that we need to find a suitable program for sound input.
[19:23] <Aemaeth> jure_, when i put in headphones i have to change my sound preferences > output connector
[19:24] <Ridpojken> headkase314: right
[19:24] <Licuadora> I cant turn off my PC
[19:24] <headkase314> Ridpojken, I'm crippled - I'm on a windows machine so I can't even pop into Applications > Ubuntu Software Centre to see what's available.
[19:24] <marekw2143> hi, having installed opengl in ubuntu, how to check where it's headre files are?
[19:24] <Ridpojken> headkase314: Windows...thats bad.... :P
[19:25] <Licuadora> Whe i select turn off, it sends me to the login menu
[19:25] <abhijit> !register | kamranOman
[19:25] <headkase314> Ridpojken, yeah I'm house-sitting this weekend.
[19:25] <ZykoticK9> Licuadora, does "sudo shutdown -h now" work?  might not want to test if this is the internet connection you're on ;)
[19:25] <ZykoticK9> Licuadora, select shutdown from GDM then
[19:25] <Ridpojken> headkase314: Get a mac!
[19:25] <Licuadora> GDM?
[19:25] <ZykoticK9> Licuadora, the login screen
[19:25] <headkase314> Ridpojken, but I &hearts; the Ubuntu! ;)
[19:25] <Licuadora> thats what i did, but it didnt worked
[19:26] <Aemaeth> get a pc and install mac
[19:26] <headkase314> heheh, html doesn't work in irc I see ;)
[19:26] <Licuadora> Why is Ubuntu so buggY?
[19:26] <abhijit> bye all :)
[19:26] <ZykoticK9> Licuadora, best of luck.
[19:26] <jure_> Aemaeth, I don't have a choice of output connector
[19:27] <Ridpojken> headkase314: I only use it because the software i want to use is only for linux..
[19:27] <Licuadora> I was trying to fix my eth0, i installed some back ports, a new driver rom INTEL, and then it started
[19:27] <ar0nic> [2:26pm] <Licuadora> Why is Ubuntu so buggY?
[19:27] <mr_daniel> I can't find 'glibc' in synaptic, but I need because of execinfo.h. Or has ubuntu no glibc available?
[19:27] <ar0nic> i don think so mang =|
[19:27] <ar0nic> have you made sure you have the repo its in?
[19:28] <headkase314> Ridpojken, so my suggestion is to explore the ubuntu software center and find an audio recording program.  Once you have that candidate test all four available inputs in gstreamer-properties.  Then as separate issues: the hanging of the regular sound properties and sound recorder not having proper plugins/codecs.  Does this sound like a good break-down to you?
[19:28] <POVaddct> mr_daniel: install the build-essential package
[19:28] <cesc_> ok the output is here guys.. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/fRHMprf1
[19:28] <Licuadora> ar0nic: Like right now, it does not let me turn off my PC, it sends me to the login screen, and when i try to turn it off from there, nothing happens. I had to use the machine's button
[19:28] <Ridpojken> headkase314: Yup Tnx for the help!
[19:28] <headkase314> Ridpojken, you're welcome! I hope it works!
[19:29] <cesc_> line num 3 that is the realteak chipset my wireless adapter uses
[19:29] <ar0nic> hmm wierd Licuadora
[19:29] <Ridpojken> headkase314: Me too! ;)
[19:29] <ar0nic> never heard taht one before
[19:29] <mr_daniel> just searched for 'build-essentials', but the package is already installed.
[19:29] <cesc_> so I suspect it is loaded in kernel then
[19:30] <Licuadora> I really hope 10.10 comes out soon, so ican do a frsh install
[19:30] <Licuadora> i hate this bubby 10.04
[19:30] <POVaddct> mr_daniel: it is build-essential, not build-essentials
[19:31] <Licuadora> now that i think about it, every version of Ubuntu is buggy
[19:31] <Licuadora> well, at least UNSTABLE
[19:31] <Licuadora> one mistake, and BAM! mess up
[19:31] <Aemaeth> Licuadora, on the youtubes look up "Desktop Linux Still Sucks"
[19:31] <sebsebseb> Licuadora: bubby?  you mean buggy?
[19:31] <gochilla> hey, i have a general question. can someone help me understanding why there's a huge difference in the sum of all the process memory usages (resident memory) and the result of a 'free' call?
[19:31] <IdleOne> Licuadora: Do you have a question or just feel like ranting?
[19:31] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[19:32] <Kjeldor> hello, can i use/run itunes on ubuntu?
[19:32] <Licuadora> çyeah buggy. Then again I cant go back to Windows
[19:32] <HoopyFrood> no
[19:32] <mr_daniel> wait a minute, I just tested to compile a c-code-snippet and it works, when I #include <execinfo.h>. There must be something wrong with the ./configure script I use
[19:32] <sebsebseb> Licuadora: October 10th is the 10.10 release,  also there are other distros that can be used instead, that might work better for you
[19:32] <HoopyFrood> Kjeldor: no
[19:32] <Aemaeth> 10/10 10.10 cute
[19:32] <sebsebseb> Kjeldor: maybe just about in Wine, if not a Windows virtual machine yes :)
[19:32] <ZykoticK9> Aemaeth, actually it's 10.10.10 for date ;)
[19:33] <Licuadora> sebsebseb: NAh, i tryed Sabyon, and is a whole different thing.
[19:33] <tdlm> okay guys, how do i undo a mount --bind?
[19:33] <Aemaeth> ZykoticK9, yeah, just remembered what year it is, are they trying to create some sort of 2012 scenario by tempting fate?
[19:33] <Muelli> tdlm: umount
[19:33] <dhani> i dont think so...
[19:33] <dhani> try Ultimate Edition
[19:33] <sebsebseb> Licuadora: Sabayon is alright, but probably not really the best one for newbies to start with
[19:33] <Kjeldor> so how exaclty do i do this? i have wine installed, and im downloading itunes right now. ill install itunes later?
[19:33] <tdlm> Muelli: i tried umount but it says 'device busy'
[19:33] <Muelli> tdlm: well. maybe the device is busy then ;-) Try umount -l
[19:34] <Licuadora> sebsebseb: even Ubuntu Studio, studio64, they all suck. The only one good is Ubuntu, but... it is so unstable
[19:34] <dhani> guys...
[19:34] <tdlm> Muelli: you are amazing
[19:34] <tdlm> thank you
[19:34] <cesc_> headkase314 I think the drivers are loaded in kernel check this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/fRHMprf1   line 3 is the chipset for my wireless usb driver
[19:34] <aeon-ltd> Licuadora: say wut?
[19:34] <tdlm> i HATE that feeling
[19:34] <Muelli> tdlm: :-) Glad it helped.
[19:34] <WhitePelican> hi, I like ubuntu but use some kde apps. how do I update to kde 4.5 without installing kubuntu?
[19:34] <Aemaeth> what is ubuntu studio, i've seen it in the repositories but it looked like it was going to overwrite some of my settings so i let it be
[19:34] <tdlm> +Muelli
[19:34] <sebsebseb> Licuadora: no loads of good distros out there that are newbie friendly,  some are more user friendly than Ubuntu really even http://www.distrowatch.com :)
[19:34] <aeon-ltd> Licuadora: yeah the spin offs suck, except crunchband and mint but ubuntu stock is pretty stable
[19:34] <tdlm> if that works here
[19:34] <tdlm> haha
[19:35] <aeon-ltd> *crunchbang
[19:35] <Oer> Licuadora, no problem here, stable.
[19:35] <Licuadora> Oer: one of the few lucky persons
[19:35] <Licuadora> otherwise these kind of channel would not exist
[19:35] <headkase314> cesc_, was away let me catch up
[19:35] <ZykoticK9> !ot
[19:36] <cesc_> thanks dude
[19:36] <HoopyFrood> Kjeldor: You culd try using rythmbox and amarok, unless you have an iphone or ipod touch
[19:36] <Kjeldor> I have iphone 3gs
[19:36] <HoopyFrood> Kjeldor: try these tips: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[19:36] <headkase314> cesc_, I don't know how to interpret that output so recap your situation for everyone else here to look at too!
[19:36] <Ridpojken> headkase314: what was the command for the gstreamer thing now again?
[19:37] <Kjeldor> i also want to sync my apps and contacts as well as pictures
[19:37] <headkase314> Ridpojken, in a terminal: "gstreamer-properties" without quotes
[19:37] <ar0nic> Licuadora have you even attempted to google your problem
[19:37] <no_u0> i've installed Pound, but idk where it is
[19:37] <ar0nic> "computer wont shut down properly ubuntu"
[19:37] <Licuadora> ar0nic: PFFF. then whats this channel for!?
[19:37] <no_u0> how can i runit
[19:38] <HoopyFrood> Kjeldor: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:38] <ar0nic> not holding your hand
[19:38] <xangua> ar0nic: that's very vague S:
[19:38] <ar0nic> its for when all esle fails
[19:38] <ar0nic> lol
[19:38] <ar0nic> xangua kidna
[19:38] <Oer> Licuadora, maybe it is a BIOS preference, ACPI S1 or S3
[19:38] <Aemaeth> i thought Licuadora was more upset about genreal problems
[19:38] <Licuadora> Well, this is one kinnda of a problem, the system wont turn off
[19:38] <collabra> Licuadora: these channels are just as much for advertising and promotion as they are for technical help.... I'm truly sorry you've had a bad experience with ubuntu
[19:39] <pelmen> guys, after upgrade to 2.6.32-24 destop now boots much slower, than used to. Everything is as fast until xserver starts. Than black screen. 5 seconds... i see mouse pointer...5 seconds...i see background...5 seconds.. i see gnome panels. boot finished. ?
[19:39] <ar0nic> thats not true collabra
[19:39] <collabra> ar0nic: what
[19:39] <pil> hello everyone - two days ago , I couldn't connect to this server - it was saying that some kind of botnet connected from my ip address - do you know any malware remover program to scan my system for malwares?
[19:39] <ar0nic> that these channels are for adverts and promotions
[19:39] <Oer> pelmen do you use a SSD ?
[19:39] <headkase314> Licuadora, as a work-around you can hold the power-button on the system for 5 seconds and it will shut off.  If the shutdown sequence makes it as far as unmounting the filesystem then you can do this with no issues.
[19:39] <pelmen> Oer: nope
[19:39] <t3chi3> wtf is up with ubuntus updates screwing with vbox clipboards and home keys?
[19:40] <Aemaeth> why does my sound preferences look different than some i've seen in images?  mine doesn't have settings for theme sounds
[19:40] <xangua> !language | t3chi3
[19:40] <coz_> Aemaeth,  are you trying to change sounds ?
[19:40] <Licuadora> headkase314: i can turn it off like that, but i want to do it the right way
[19:40] <ZykoticK9> pil, you where probably picked up by accident by the Freenode bot "idora" or similar - it probably wasn't malware on your system, just bad timing
[19:40] <t3chi3> fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[19:40] <coz_> ??
[19:41] <Aemaeth> yeah, i can change them by replacing the current files, but that seems like a roundabout way of doing that
[19:41] <collabra> ar0nic: so acording to you,.... this channel doesn't promote ubuntu?... yeah, believe what you want....
[19:41] <xangua> pelmen: try to boot with an older kernel; press Alt when booting to see the grub menu
[19:41] <pil> ZykoticK9: you sure?
[19:41] <coz_> Aemaeth,  are they working when you do that?
[19:41] <Licuadora> You know waht? forget it, i'll intall the distro again, for the 15th time
[19:41] <ZykoticK9> pil, no
[19:41] <icedwater> Hello, need some tips troubleshooting my sound settings. Earphones don't seem to work on Lucid, they work fine on my MP3 or Windows 7.
[19:41] <Aemaeth> coz_, mostly, system logout doesn't seem to ever play
[19:41] <icedwater> Not sure what has changed.
[19:41] <xangua> collabra: this is a channel for ubuntu support, ONLY ubuntu
[19:41] <headkase314> Licuadora, I hear you - sometimes my system doesn't shutdown too - started happening when I connected my computer through HDMI to my HDTV.  That's unresolved for me too..  Work in progress.
[19:41] <Aemaeth> but i think that's with the default ogg too
[19:41] <Oer> xangua press shift for grubmenu ?
[19:41] <karlo> How can I make windows transparent when moving them ?
[19:41] <coz_> Aemaeth,   right I have had the same issues here...  without great results
[19:41] <pil> ZykoticK9: do you know any malware remover programs for ubuntu?
[19:42] <ZykoticK9> !virus | pil
[19:42] <coz_> Aemaeth,  I know that maverick is calling for new sound themes if you are interested in creating some
[19:42] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[19:42] <xangua> Oer: is shift¿¿ i thought it was alt :S sorry pelmen
[19:42] <ubuntu-usr> hi all
[19:42] <coz_> Aemaeth,  they were suppose to be on lucid but mark shuttleworth forgot about them :)
[19:42] <blackMatrix> hi, im booting ubuntu from a flash drive, is there a way to access windows files while still on ubuntu OS
[19:42] <xangua> karlo: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager < configure compiz plugins with that
[19:42] <Aemaeth> me and my buddy could make the supreme portal theme (by our standards)
[19:43] <sebsebseb> blackMatrix: I think so
[19:43] <sebsebseb> blackMatrix: places > windows partition ?
[19:43] <xangua> blackMatrix: just mount window's partition
[19:43] <ZykoticK9> blackMatrix, usually yes.  click on the Places menu, do you see any drives/partitions?
[19:43] <Aemaeth> but really it just seemed ridiculous that we had to investigate so much just to mess around with audio
[19:43] <pil> ubottu, ZykoticK9: so like ZykoticK9 said that it was only bad timing for me that day not connecting to the server?
[19:43] <ubuntu-usr> i'm using uck-gui (ubuntu custumization kit) but i option with synaptic isn't avaible, what to enable it?
[19:43] <coz_> Aemaeth,  here are two links  http://design.canonical.com/2010/08/ubuntu-needs-a-new-sound-theme/  and this is where you sould post them   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Design/SoundTheme/Submissions-11-04?action=quicklink
[19:44] <Aemaeth> kk
[19:44] <ZykoticK9> pil, you could ask in the #freenode channer they would know more
[19:44] <ZykoticK9> s/channer/channel
[19:44] <ikonia> ubuntu-usr: please ask that again a little more clear
[19:44] <pil> ZykoticK9: thanks
[19:44] <blackMatrix> ok, i will try that...any risks i should be aware of while mounting the windows partition ?
[19:44] <cesc_> guys I explain my issue again for everyone. I have a usb wireless adapter (Alfa Network model AWUS036H). I have downloaded the drivers for it from Realteak because it uses chipset 8187L. After some problems with compiling the drivers I have succeeded and rebooted my machine. After logging in again... I unplugged my wired internet connection, went to terminal windows and typed iwconfig with no luck.. it says no wireless extensions. The drivers are loaded in the
[19:44] <cesc_>  kernel.
[19:44] <icedwater> !sound
[19:44] <hylian> this is probably a strange request, but is there a place where i can just say to the ubuntu community how much i think ubuntu rocks and how much i appreciate all their hard work?
[19:44] <coz_> blackMatrix,  there should be no risks at all
[19:44] <ubuntu-usr> ikonia, what i should explain more?
[19:45] <collabra> xangua: Both of you are missing the bigger point to the 'ubuntu support' channel..... This may be a channel where you can get support for your newly installed ubuntu system,... but It's secondary purpose is in promotion,... look, most people here advocate the use of ubuntu or it's dirivitives.... and thus actively 'promotes' ubuntu.
[19:45] <IdleOne> hylian: you just did :)
[19:45] <ikonia> ubuntu-usr: "i option with synaptic is not available" ?
[19:45] <xangua> hylian: how about offtopic¿ :)
[19:45] <rek> i don't find my network printer what can i do?
[19:45] <headkase314> cesc_, that is the perfect recap - post that every 5 minutes or so and if no one at this time has an answer post the same thing other times you try here.  Good luck I really hope it can get ironed out soon for you.
[19:46] <hylian> xangua im not talking irc, imeant like a forum, and since it's directly related to ubuntu, i thought it was on topic, sorry.
[19:46] <Oer> ubuntu-usr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization ?
[19:46] <xangua> hylian: ubutnu forum then¿
[19:46] <IdleOne> hylian: perhaps ubuntu forums
[19:46] <blackMatrix> thanks sebsebseb xangua zykotick9 and coz_
[19:46] <cesc_> thanks keadkase314 for your advice and help
[19:46] <Oer> ubuntu-usr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[19:46] <hylian> ok thanx dude, thanx for helping people out too, we all appreciate it.
[19:47] <IdleOne> hylian: the best way to say thank you is to help out on IRC and forums and spread the love to friends and family
[19:47] <headkase314> cesc_, you're welcome - it really can be luck of the draw for if someone has the knowledge you need in the channel.
[19:47] <Bridge|> anyone in #java, could possible send me a invite?
[19:47] <pure_hate> cesc, Are you sure the driver is loaded?
[19:47] <hylian> ohh i have, dad's running ubuntu and rhythmbox and lovin' it
[19:47] <pheonixman> coz_, you there..?
[19:47] <HoopyFrood>  need help, I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[19:47] <ZykoticK9> !register | Bridge|
[19:47] <pure_hate> most times if you unplug a alfa you have to rrmod rtl8187 && modprobe rtl8187
[19:48] <cesc_> I don't understand why on my other machine with ubuntu lucid lynx my wireless adapter is working fine and on my xubuntu is not.
[19:49] <Bridge|> lol, Thanks ZykoticK9
[19:49]  * Bridge| kicks himself
[19:50] <DuncanD0nuts> i have an issue, and I'm new to ubuntu. i installed 10.04 yesterday on my laptop and everything is running great. i want to install my mouse so I don't always have to use this damn touchpad :p
[19:50] <icedwater> Anyone have headphones not working in Lucid? I can't seem to find a fix on the community page.
[19:50] <DuncanD0nuts> where do I start?
[19:50] <icedwater> DuncanD0nuts: Is it a USB mouse?
[19:50] <ikonia> DuncanD0nuts: you just plug a mouse in
[19:50] <DuncanD0nuts> yes
[19:50] <DuncanD0nuts> i did, and it's not working :\
[19:50] <ikonia> DuncanD0nuts: you shouldn't need to install anything
[19:50] <icedwater> DuncanD0nuts: what sort is it?
[19:50] <DuncanD0nuts> generic dell optical mouse
[19:52] <pure_hate> DuncanD0nuts, Did you boot up with the mouse pluged in , or did you plug it in after you were booted?
[19:52] <DuncanD0nuts> both, initially i just plugged it in. when that didn't work, i tried a restart with it plugged in to no avail
[19:52] <bullhorn> i think something in the update went wrong
[19:52] <bullhorn> gnome is fubar'd
[19:52] <bullhorn> i dont see the closewindow/maximimze/minimze buttons
[19:53] <bullhorn> on any window
[19:53] <cesc_> guys I explain my issue again for everyone. I have a usb wireless adapter (Alfa Network model AWUS036H). I have downloaded the drivers for it from Realteak because it uses chipset 8187L. After some problems with compiling the drivers I have succeeded and rebooted my machine. After logging in again... I unplugged my wired internet connection, went to terminal windows and typed iwconfig with no luck.. it says no wireless extensions. The drivers are loaded in the
[19:53] <cesc_>  kernel.
[19:53] <xangua> bullhorn: alt+f2 > metacity --replace
[19:53] <coz_> bullhorn, is compiz running?
[19:53] <oCean_> DuncanD0nuts: any output from 'dmesg | grep -i mouse' ??
[19:53] <pure_hate> cesc, scroll up, I asked you a few questions. you seem to have missed it
[19:54] <pure_hate> DuncanD0nuts, you can try to reload the mouse driver to force it, modprobe psmouse
[19:54] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[19:55] <bullhorn> i have no idea, im a nob :|
[19:55] <DuncanD0nuts> only things listed is "macintosh mouse button emulation" and "ps/2 mouse device"
[19:55] <DuncanD0nuts> ill try that pure
[19:55] <coz_> bullhorn,  ok  firs hit   alt+F2   and as suggested...type in      metacity --replace
[19:55] <ilul> what?
[19:55] <coz_> bullhorn,  then go to applications/accessories  and open a terminal
[19:56] <coz_> bullhorn,   in that terminal  copy and paste this command     lspci | grep -i vga
[19:56] <bullhorn> i have the buttons on some of the windows now but they are on the left side instead of the right side lol
[19:56] <ilul> bahasa indonesia plece
[19:56] <DuncanD0nuts> it's working, but it wasnt a solution from here
[19:56] <DuncanD0nuts> oddly, i changed usb ports and the mouse started working
[19:56] <DuncanD0nuts> :\
[19:56] <HoopyFrood> bullhorn: they're supposed to be that way...
[19:56] <oCean_> DuncanD0nuts: I'd expect at least one or two lines mentioning mouse in combination with usb. Are you sure that port is functioning?
[19:56] <coz_> bullhorn,  right that is the way of ubuntu but I personally dislike it very much  and that can be changed
[19:56] <DuncanD0nuts> thanks for the assistance though guys
[19:56] <oCean_> DuncanD0nuts: oh..
[19:56] <icedwater> !in
[19:56] <ilul> toloooongggg.....aku kesulitan masuk
[19:56] <icedwater> !id
[19:56] <DuncanD0nuts> well, the mouse lit up in the original port
[19:57] <DuncanD0nuts> but didnt work
[19:57] <icedwater> !id | ilul
[19:57] <DuncanD0nuts> in the other port it's working perfectly
[19:57] <icedwater> ilul: Please go to #ubuntu-id :)
[19:57] <DuncanD0nuts> problem, solved, im happy. thanks
[19:57] <bullhorn> it wasnt like that in 10.09
[19:57] <bullhorn> 10.4 is popo
[19:57] <coz_> bullhorn,  no do you want to change it back??
[19:57] <bullhorn> yes please
[19:57] <ilul> caranya memasukkan id bagaimana?
[19:58] <d09eat90d> hi room
[19:58] <ZykoticK9> !controls | bullhorn
[19:58] <coz_> bullhorn,  also  when you talk to someone specifically  type the first 2 or 3 letters of their name and hit the tab button to compete the name and then write the message
[19:58] <cesc> pure_hate I think it is loaded in kernel check this out.. line 3    http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/fRHMprf1
[19:58] <coz_> bullhorn,  ok hit  alt+F2 again and type in    gconf-editor
[19:58] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[19:59] <coz_> bullhorn,   click apps  then scroll down to matacity  then click the plus sign  then click on   Genearl under metacity
[19:59] <pure_hate> cesc, You may need to use the rtl8187 driver
[19:59] <d09eat90d> any idea how to anonymize with tor using vidalia on lucid?
[19:59] <ilul> oh............... help me...........
[19:59] <icedwater> ilul: #ubuntu-id
[19:59] <coz_> bullhorn,  tell me when you are there
[19:59] <bullhorn> there
[19:59] <coz_> bulldog,   now on the right panel  look for   "button_layout"
[19:59] <dhani> is there any help channel for wireless problem?
[20:00] <Professor_G> how can i get my headphones to automatally switch when thay are plugged in
[20:00] <ilul> join?
[20:00] <cesc> rtl8187 instead of rtl8187L ?
[20:00] <Aemaeth> how can i link my phone internet to my wireless card so that others can access the internet around me?
[20:00] <icedwater> ilul: pergi ke #ubuntu-id, sini bahasa inggeris sahaja :P
[20:00] <coz_> bulldog,  double click that  and a dialog pops up   and delete  what is under  "Value"  and then copy and paste this   :minimize,maximize,close
[20:00] <ilul> jhoin room?
[20:00] <oCean_> ilul: /join #ubuntu-id
[20:00] <bullhorn> aha, coz_
[20:00] <icedwater> ilul: ya - my bahasa is rubbish.
[20:00] <bullhorn> so you just move the ":" to the left, coz_
[20:00] <coz_> bulldog,  then click ok  and close out of gcong
[20:00] <Professor_G> how can i get my headphones to automatally switch when thay are plugged in?. anyone
[20:01] <coz_> bullhorn,  sort of yes  the order has to be changed as well
[20:01] <icedwater> Professor_G: are your headphones not working too?
[20:01] <bullhorn> coz_, wrong person but nevertheless, got it. thanks :)
[20:01] <pure_hate> cesc, yes. I would also be using compat-wireless rather than the drivers from realteks site, although I find it hard to belive that the alfa doesnt work in ubuntu
[20:01] <coz_> bullhorn,  sorry that was for you:)
[20:01] <bullhorn> coz_,  now its back like it was for over 15 years :D
[20:01] <bullhorn> thanks
[20:01] <coz_> bullhorn,  no problem
[20:01] <bullhorn> 'dont fix whats not broken'
[20:01] <Professor_G> icedwater,  nope thay work when i manualy select analog headphones from setings
[20:01] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[20:01] <coz_> bullgard,  no in a terminal   copy and paste this command     lspci | grep -i vga
[20:02] <david__> hola  todos los hackers de ubuntu
[20:02] <d09eat90d> Tor is running on my lucid lynx with vidalia, but seems not anonymizing me...
[20:02] <d09eat90d> i'm behind firewall...
[20:02] <Professor_G> how do i solve my issue
[20:02] <hsr> Hello
[20:03] <ARGGG> i just installed 9.10 and my secondary monitor does not show up in display how would i be able to get it working im using ati radeon x1300
[20:03] <d09eat90d> can someone guide me?
[20:03] <coz_> d09eat90d,  if no one can help with this here try the ##linux channel :)
[20:03] <Cygoku> I have a problem, every time I launch empathy it ask for a password keyring, how can I disable that ??
[20:03] <Professor_G> hello help me
[20:03] <hsr> How to monitor and download network media? Say for example: Radio
[20:03] <coz_> Professor_G,   what is the issue?
[20:04] <Professor_G> coz_,  how can i get my headphones to automatally switch when thay are plugged in?. anyone
[20:04] <hsr> Professor_G: Which OS do you use?
[20:05] <hsr> Professor_G: I mean version, GNOME or KDE..
[20:05] <coz_> Professor_G,  welll   did you open a terminal and type   alsamixer to be sure  all sliders are not all the way down and none are muted?  if muted hit the keybiard lower case "m"  to unmute
[20:05] <Professor_G> hsr,  ubuntu 10.4 DSL (i think the letters at the end are right)?
[20:05] <Aemaeth> it's really weird, it won't let me bridge the connection between phone and wireless without having security setup, i want an open network created :(
[20:05] <cesc> pure_hate... I have 2 pc at home .. one with ubuntu 10.04 in which I plugged the Alfa Network wireless adapter and it worked straight away with no need to load drivers at all. And the other computer with xubuntu 10.04 which is the one I'm having problems with.
[20:05] <hsr> Professor_G: Thats LTS Lond term suppott
[20:05] <hsr> Professor_G: Thats LTS Lond term support
[20:06] <hsr> Professor_G: Thats LTS Long term support  .. Sorry
[20:06] <hsr> Professor_G: :et me see how can i help you..
[20:06] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[20:06] <pure_hate> cesc, the best thing to do is create to lsmod text files and then diff them to see what the difference is.
[20:06] <bullhorn> i forgot even the basics of linux lol
[20:06] <Professor_G> hsr,  what do i do again?
[20:06] <bullhorn> i dont remember how to use apt-get and search and whatnot
[20:06] <icedwater> hsr: If you help him, I will be pretty grateful too... I'm probably in the same situation.
[20:06] <coz_> Professor_G,  open a terminal
[20:07] <icedwater> bullhorn: What did you need?
[20:07] <coz_> Professor_G,    type    alsamixer
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> cesc, have you plugged the xubuntu machine into the ethernet network and done all updates?
[20:07] <pure_hate> there should be much difference in the wireless between xubuntu and ubuntu except the GUI wireless manager
[20:07] <coz_> Professor_G,  then check that the sliders are up in volume and none are muted
[20:07] <bullhorn> icedwater, i need to get rid of an old beta version of chrome and find the latest stable one
[20:07] <Aemaeth> oh sweet i figured it out, you have to change the security settings before you enter anything for name
[20:07] <icedwater> bullhorn: Did you set the Google repository?
[20:07] <cesc> yes Zykotick9 is the first think I have done.. there was 172 updates to catch up. :)
[20:07] <Professor_G> Usage: /sbin/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume}
[20:07] <hsr> Professor_G: Let me see how i can help, i am pretty sure about KDE settings using Mixer but i'll have to search a bit for GNOME... lemme see
[20:08] <Professor_G> hsr,  i'm using game
[20:08] <HoopyFrood> bullhorn, use synaptic to uninstall chrome-beat (or chromium-bet, whichever,) and then find the chrome package
[20:08] <Professor_G> hsr,  gnome sorry
[20:08] <bullhorn> i got this one icedwater : http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/
[20:08] <icedwater> bullhorn: sudo apt-get update I guess? Then sudo apt-get upgrade?
[20:08] <ZykoticK9> cesc, ok - just trying to account for difference in hardware support (ubuntu & xubuntu "should" support the same hardware)
[20:08] <magicianlord> Good day.
[20:08] <jemadux> xrisimopoei kaneis apo edw irssi ?
[20:09] <hsr> coz-: alsamixer got no settings for using to headphone when they are plugged, tht may not help
[20:09] <hsr> coz-: alsamixer got no settings for switching to headphone when they are plugged, tht may not help
[20:09] <cesc> pure_hate I'm going to pastebin the lsmod text file for my ubuntu machine where my alfa network works with no problems and then you can compare with the pastebin I wrote earlier here.
[20:09] <ilul> ada yang bisa berbahasa indonesia?
[20:10] <fcuk112> when i enable sharing on a folder thru nautilus, where are the details stored...  does it store in smb.conf?
[20:10] <d09eat90d> ilu1
[20:10] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[20:10] <icedwater> ilul: aku tak bisa, #ubuntu-id ada
[20:10] <d09eat90d> bahasa indonesia
[20:10] <kyo> my external speakers do not work
[20:11] <ubuntu-usr> where i get package melchior for ubuntu?
[20:11] <d09eat90d> #ubuntu-id
[20:11] <ubuntu-usr> i can't google it
[20:11] <ilul> siapa yang bisa berbahasa INDONESIA?
[20:11] <Shakey_Jake> @kyo can you get sound from headphones?
[20:11] <kyo> just headphones
[20:11] <d09eat90d> icedwater, only few people on #ubuntu-id
[20:12] <kyo> yes
[20:12] <ilul> ada yang dari Indonesia?
[20:12] <Shakey_Jake> and youre plugging the speakers into the headphone socket?
[20:12] <icedwater> d09eat90d: Nothing I can do, I'm guessing based on my limited Malay knowledge anyway
[20:12] <xangua> !english > ilul
[20:12] <kyo> integrated speakers
[20:12] <hsr> How to monitor and download network media? Say for example: Radio
[20:12] <hsr> How to monitor and download network media? Say for example: Radio
[20:12] <Shakey_Jake> oh, i get you
[20:12] <Shakey_Jake> kyo: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:13] <kyo> ubuntu 9.04
[20:13] <headkase314> hsr, for rhythmbox in synaptic search for "rhythmbox radio browser"
[20:13] <headkase314> hsr, and don't forget to enable it in the plug-in settings of rhythmbox - it does shoutcast, icecast, etc.
[20:13] <Shakey_Jake> have you tried system>preferences>sound>output ?
[20:14] <ilul> d09eat90d bang?
[20:14] <cesc> pure_hate here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mZ7fx9V3 the lsmod file in my ubuntu machine where Alfa Network wireless adapter worked straight away. And here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/fRHMprf1  lsmod file for my xubuntu machine where I'm having problems with.
[20:14] <hsr> headkase314: Does it allow to download as well?
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[20:14] <headkase314> hsr, it allows you to record streams as they play
[20:14] <magicianlord> what is responsible for the native resolution in console, without nouveau being installed?
[20:15] <magicianlord> is it hte kms within the kernel
[20:15] <magicianlord> or what
[20:15] <kyo> Jake: yes I did, but nothing happen
[20:16] <hsr> headkase314: Well i listen to RadioParadise and SKY.fm using their links in m3u format... will it work?
[20:16] <Kjeldor> i cant find the laucher for the libimobiledevice after installing it from the PPA
[20:16] <kyo> should I change something in "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base"
[20:16] <kyo> ?
[20:16] <headkase314> hsr, rhythmbox radio browser is self-contained and only does radio - I do not believe but am not sure that you can point it at sky.fm
[20:16] <Shakey_Jake> there's nothing in either the 'choose a device' box or the connector menu that look like they could be your speakers?
[20:16] <magicianlord> does anyone know if MOC plays streaming audio? radio, for example
[20:17] <Shakey_Jake> well, that's the ext option if there isn't a friendly gui of doing things
[20:17] <hsr> headkase314: Is there a plugin like that for Amarok?
[20:17] <headkase314> hsr, that specific plug-in is for rhythmbox I don't doubt that there is something similar for Amarok I just don't know what it would be.
[20:18] <pure_hate> cesc, thats a mess but try this: rmmod r8187l && modprobe ar9170usb && ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:18] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[20:18] <Kjeldor> i cant find the laucher for the libimobiledevice after installing it from the PPA
[20:19] <fcuk112> i've enabled a share through nautilus with r/w perms, but when i try to copy something from another ubuntu machine i get permission denied - any ideas?
[20:19] <hsr> headkase314: Thanks a lot, i will be able to work it out myself then. If not atleast by seeing the code of that plugin and make one for amarok.. Thanks
[20:19] <headkase314> hsr, you're welcome - good hunting.
[20:19] <wickitsarah> greetings to all
[20:19] <kyo> nothing, still just headphones
[20:20] <magicianlord> wickitsarah: GOOD DAY
[20:20] <charlesno> how does IRC work
[20:20] <Arcidias> it is magick
[20:20] <ikonia> charlesno: just ask questions, and people will answer
[20:20] <wickitsarah> im new so please do not get to mad at me ok
[20:20] <Shakey_Jake> kyo: whart's the output from 'cat /proc/asound/cards' ??
[20:20] <headkase314> !ask | wickitsarah
[20:21] <Kjeldor> i cant find the laucher for the libimobiledevice after installing it from the PPA
[20:21] <HoopyFrood> I installed Lucid and Grub to an external hard drive, but whenever I boot to the hard drive, the grub rescue screen appears. I have tried installing grub onto the drive from ubuntu, another copy of which I have on my internal drive, and manually replacing the grub folder as root, both without success
[20:21] <wickitsarah> im still learning how to use this im srry ok
[20:21] <ARGGG> i just installed 9.10 and my secondary monitor does not show up in display how would i be able to get it working im using ati radeon x1300
[20:21] <hsr> headkase314: Ryhthombox allows to point to any station using the url option, it allows to add url of station, thats sufficient. Using mp3/m3u/aac format anyone can find the url.. external radios can work
[20:21] <ikonia> HoopyFrood: what rescue screen
[20:22] <ikonia> HoopyFrood: exactly what do you get on screen
[20:22] <anodesni> ARGGG, opensource or proprietary driver?
[20:22] <charlesno> is ArchLinux as good as Ubuntu?
[20:22] <ARGGG> opensource
[20:22] <kyo> Jake: I have not idea :O
[20:22] <ikonia> charlesno: that's personal opinion, try them both
[20:22] <headkase314> Kjeldor, I believe that is for an ipod or touch or iphone?  If so then libimobiledevice is just so you can plug it into a usb port.  From there you can use rhythmbox to manage the device or something like gtkpod.
[20:22] <Arcidias> HoopyFrood: why don't you add a line to your harddrive instance of GRUB so you can choose to boot from the external?
[20:22] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, instead of the bootloader, it says GRUB rescue >
[20:22] <HoopyFrood> as a command line
[20:22] <headkase314> hsr, well good then? ;)
[20:22] <wickitsarah> im like ubuntu and puppy so far
[20:22] <anodesni> ARGGG, http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
[20:23] <ikonia> HoopyFrood: ok, so your grub is looking at the wrong partitions for it's menu info
[20:23] <ARGGG> thank you
[20:23] <Kjeldor> oh i see
[20:23] <charlesno> what linux distro is recommended if i want to learn as much as possible about how it works
[20:23] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, why, though?
[20:23] <icedwater> charlesno: Are you new to Linux?
[20:23] <Arcidias> charlesno: LFS
[20:23] <anodesni> ARGGG, according to the page xrandr should work with your card
[20:23] <Arcidias> charlesno: or Slackware
[20:23] <ikonia> HoopyFrood: probably becuase you're using a USB drive and it didn't work out the install info properly
[20:23] <headkase314> Kjeldor, I believe you can search for "gtkpod" in synaptic and that can be used to manage the device - people seem to think that one is the most reliable anyway.
[20:24] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, I reinsatlled it via the terminal on ubuntu on my internal drive
[20:24] <Arcidias> charlesno: ArchLinux is also an option
[20:24] <wickitsarah> try one of those tick books fr begainers
[20:24] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, it being grub
[20:24] <charlesno> I'm kind of new, I've been using Ubuntu for a few months but i haven't forced myself to really learn the terminal or anything
[20:24] <icedwater> charlesno: I would say Ubuntu is just fine... learn step by step instead of jumping in at the deep end.
[20:24] <ikonia> charlesno: this channel supports the ubuntu operating system - not general discussion
[20:24] <ikonia> HoopyFrood: then you've installed it to look at the wrong places
[20:24] <anodesni> ARGGG, what output does "xrandr -q" give?
[20:24] <Kjeldor> synaptic is where?
[20:24] <charlesno> I apologize ikonia
[20:24] <ikonia> charlesno: no need to apologize
[20:24] <icedwater> charlesno: Bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[20:24] <pure_hate> charlesno, Gentoo and then Linux from Scratch if you *really* want to learn
[20:24] <wickitsarah> scotty beam us up lol
[20:24] <ARGGG> anodesni not sure what that means
[20:25] <hibliss> I need some help with Samba on Ubuntu server 10.04
[20:25] <headkase314> Kjeldor, System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[20:25] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, so the automatic installation went wrong... :( I can maually edit grub.cfg, then, I guess
[20:25] <ikonia> HoopyFrood: that won't do anything
[20:25] <hibliss> just updated and got a new kernel
[20:25] <hibliss> and Samba started acting up
[20:25] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, so how should I reconfigure it?
[20:25] <headkase314> Kjeldor, then there is a search box at the top you can type gtkpod in and in the results window right-click on gtkpod and choose install
[20:25] <ikonia> !grub2 > HoopyFrood
[20:25] <anodesni> ARGGG, you should open a terminal and type in "xrandr -q" and then look which devices it discovers
[20:26] <charlesno> thanks guys, goin to off topic
[20:26] <ARGGG> ok
[20:26] <hibliss> I can still access the shares from a windows machine
[20:26] <hibliss> by mapping directly
[20:26] <Kjeldor> thanks.. doing it now
[20:26] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, already checked that link
[20:26] <headkase314> Kjeldor, ok
[20:26] <anodesni> ARGGG, you should see something like VGA connected, LVDS connected
[20:26] <ikonia> HoopyFrood: ok, so then you understand how to point grub at the right parrtitions
[20:26] <d09eat90d> can someone guide me to configure tor+vidalia for lucid lynx??
[20:26] <anodesni> ARGGG, then you know if ubuntu has detected your secondary screen
[20:27] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, right, and it hasnt worked
[20:27] <DasEi> d09eat90d: sure
[20:27] <ARGGG> anodesni yes i see its not seeing my tv
[20:27] <ikonia> HoopyFrood: then you've not configured it right, or the ubuntu partition is corrupt/damaged
[20:27] <headkase314> !info gtkpod
[20:27] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, damn... well, I'll give it another shot
[20:28] <HoopyFrood> ikonia, before i reinstall
[20:28] <hibliss> anyone have a sec to help me out with Samba
[20:28] <DasEi> d09eat90d: tor already installed ?
[20:28] <Kjeldor> headkase314: im done, whats next?
[20:28] <ARGGG> DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) anodesni
[20:28] <aruntomar> hi guys. my top output shows 2 contradictory values.... so i got confused and need clarification. my cpu usage on the top 3rd line shows that it's using hardly 3% but in the process list it shows that my virtualbox is using 112% cpu usage, so which one is correct
[20:29] <headkase314> Kjeldor, now look in your Applications Menu and I believe you will see gtkpod under Sound & Video
[20:29] <anodesni> ARGGG, are you sure they are turned on?
[20:29] <jonathan> hi
[20:29] <ARGGG> if i have the tv connected when i start up it will make my monitor go black and the tv will flicker in black and white
[20:29] <HoopyFrood> headkase314, I didn't think gtkpod worked with iphones...
[20:29] <DasEi> d09eat90d: ??
[20:30] <hsr> Professor_G: Sorry, i coudn't find the a proper solution
[20:30] <hsr> Professor_G: Sorry, i coudn't find a proper solution
[20:30] <headkase314> HoopyFrood, are you sure?
[20:30] <jonathan> exit
[20:30] <anodesni> ARGGG, you could try the proprietary drivers and configure the tv-out using "sudo amdcccle" in the terminal
[20:30] <headkase314> HoopyFrood, I think in the preferences of gtkpod you can choose a model of device to connect to?
[20:30] <HoopyFrood> headkase314, thats what I thought i saw at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[20:30] <hsr> headkase314: Hey
[20:31] <Kjeldor> headkase314: I dont see my iphone inside
[20:31] <anodesni> ARGGG, this is similar to the amd catalyst suite in windows
[20:31] <hsr> headkase314: Is there any way to monitor network media?
[20:31] <HoopyFrood> headkase314, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone reccomends libmobiledevice
[20:31] <ARGGG> how do i install the proprietary drivers?
[20:31] <ikonia> ARGGG: open the system -> administration -> hardware drivers tool
[20:32] <ARGGG> ok
[20:32] <headkase314> Kjeldor, see HoopyFrood link above and to confirm what exactly is the device?  And in gtkpod under Edit > Preferences can you choose the model of your device.  I'm not in front of gtkpod right now so preferences may be in another location.
[20:32] <HoopyFrood> headkase314, I tried to help Kjeldor with this before
[20:32] <anodesni> ARGGG, it's in system->administration -> proprietary driver install (or something like that)
[20:32] <HoopyFrood> He couldnt find the launcher
[20:32] <headkase314> HoopyFrood, he has libmobiledevice installed but now needs a management front-end for the device
[20:32] <magicianlord> IS it better to remove the battery from a laptop at 50% charge for 6 months plus storage, or leave it connected
[20:32] <cesc> headkase314 how do I remove the driver I installed before.. the realteak rtl8187l. I think it must be the rtl8187 without the final l
[20:33] <HoopyFrood> headkase314, I dont know of any...
[20:33] <headkase314> !infor rmmod
[20:33] <headkase314> !info rmmod
[20:33] <headkase314> cesc, I'm not sure but I think it's rmmod <devicename>
[20:33] <DasEi> magicianlord: not ubuntu related, load it to 100% and recharge latest half a year
[20:33] <istvan> I have a powermac g4 running 10.04 that I just set up. It connects to the network with wireless just fine, but I can't get ethernet to work. I have other ubuntu/windows machines that are online via ethernet just fine. ideas?
[20:34] <ARGGG> not able to select anything in hardware drivers
[20:34] <anodesni> ARGGG, I think your card is too old and is not supported anymore by amd/ati
[20:35] <ARGGG> indeed that was what i was haveing troubles with
[20:35] <Kjeldor> headkase314: i couldnt find inside the preference where i could select what device i have
[20:35] <syslq> headkase314: did that guy solved sound problems later?
[20:35] <hsr> headkase314: ther?
[20:35] <headkase314> Kjeldor, what exactly is the device model?
[20:36] <anodesni> ARGGG, it's strange though since the open source drivers should support tv-out for your card
[20:36] <Kjeldor> iphone 3gs
[20:36] <ikonia> !iphone > Kjeldor
[20:36] <hsr> headkase314: Do you know how to monitor network media?
[20:36] <kyo> thank you very much! I dotn remember your nick Jake, but its working
[20:36] <headkase314> syslq, the updated ALSA gave him an additional "analog" x-fi device but it also did not work.  In the end last night he was really considering just buying a $10 generic audio card to replace the x-fi
[20:36] <anodesni> ARGGG, maybe this works http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215763
[20:36] <Shakey_Jake> kyo: cool beans
[20:36] <urbmen> Hi everyone
[20:37] <Shakey_Jake> kyo: you're welcome
[20:37] <headkase314> hsr, no sorry I do not
[20:37] <ARGGG> not sure what is going on with it but if i have the tv connected at startup it will make my monitor go black and the tv does some strange things
[20:37] <Rogue1> hey urbmen
[20:37] <kyo> bye bye Shaker_Jake
[20:37] <syslq> headkase314: lol :)
[20:37] <hsr> headkase314: Thanks a lot for your help till now :-)
[20:37] <urbmen> whats everyone up to
[20:37] <headkase314> hsr, you're welcome - everyone here helps ;)
[20:37] <hsr> Professor_G: Are you here?
[20:37] <hsr> Professor_G: Are you here?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> urbmen: chillin
[20:38] <urbmen> nicely nicely
[20:38] <ikonia> jeromel: he's long gone
[20:38] <hsr> Who was asking about headphone issues here??
[20:38] <anodesni> ARGGG, it seems more people are having this problem
[20:39] <Kjeldor> can I just run itunes onto something? while runing UBUNTU?
[20:39] <hsr> Who was asking about headphone issues here??
[20:39] <hsr> Who was asking about headphone issues here??
[20:39] <ikonia> Kjeldor: no
[20:39] <Kjeldor> not even on WINE?
[20:40] <urbmen> just wondering if anyone can help then, I've just installed ubuntu 8.4, and I am struggling to get the flash player to work
[20:40] <TheWhitePelican> oops
[20:40] <TheWhitePelican> sorry
[20:40] <headkase314> Kjeldor, iTunes on WINE -> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[20:40] <xangua> urbmen: get it from adobe's web or update lo lucid ;)
[20:40] <headkase314> Kjeldor, from the ratings it doesn't work the best but maybe it can work enough
[20:41] <ImaLamer> try #winehq
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> urbmen: what browser?
[20:41] <AndrewMC> urbmen: Why such an old version of ubuntu
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> xangua: no need
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> AndrewMC: hardy is still supported
[20:41] <urbmen> firefox 3.6.8
[20:41] <xangua> ActionParsnip: update to lucid¿ just saying ;) it's awesome
[20:41] <AndrewMC> ActionParsnip: Oh ok
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> hardy is supported until April 2011
[20:42] <urbmen> its just the disk i had to hand
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> so its not old by any means, it gets updates just like the others
[20:42] <AndrewMC> ActionParsnip: Still its an old version
[20:43] <urbmen> it works and it stable
[20:43] <IdleOne> upgrading to lucid won't fix the issue
[20:43] <Arcidias> AndrewMC: you're disputing another man's choice of distro?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> AndrewMC: true but its stillup to date with updates
[20:43] <IdleOne> !flash | urbmen
[20:43] <AndrewMC> ActionParsnip: Thats a good point
[20:43] <d09eat90d> googleearth bugs on lucid
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> urbmen: if you run: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree     does it install?
[20:43] <d09eat90d> it's installed but it won't run
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> !info flashplugin-nonfree hardy
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> urbmen: if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras    it will install flash and java too for you
[20:45] <Kjeldor> so how do i open itunesetup.exe with wine? or something?
[20:45] <luw> hi question:  why on ubuntu's website it says "not recommended for daily desktop use" for the 10.04 64bit version?
[20:45] <urbmen> cheers
[20:45] <Arcidias> Kjeldor: cd to the directory of itunesetup.exe and execute wine itunesetup.exe
[20:45] <rww> luw: because Ubuntu's website developers don't know what they're talking about and are bad at fixing bugs
[20:45] <Kjeldor> how?
[20:46] <Arcidias> Kjeldor: open Terminal
[20:46] <elkclone> luw: lmao
[20:46] <magicianlord> is lpia available for 10.04?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: is it itunes 7 or 8?
[20:46] <Kjeldor> newest
[20:46] <rww> magicianlord: no
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> magicianlord: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Drops-Support-for-LPIA-on-Ubuntu-10-04-128175.shtml
[20:46] <Kjeldor> newest itunes
[20:46] <luw> rww: interesting...it's kinda ridiculous that they would put that
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: i dont use apples garbage, you need to be the smart one here dude
[20:47] <Kjeldor> so what do i do?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/sync-iphone-and-ipod-touch-in-ubuntu.html
[20:47] <IdleOne> Kjeldor: where did you save the file to?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: or get a better player (easier)
[20:47] <Kjeldor> in DOWNLOADS
[20:47] <thune3> luw: this statement is a screen, if you believe it you are likely too new to linux to deal with additional(minor) issues that sometimes come with 64-bit installation.
[20:48] <IdleOne> Kjeldor: ok in terminal type cd ~/Downloads
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: using that guide will let you use rhythmnbox
[20:48] <Kjeldor> i dont want rythymnbox
[20:48] <Kjeldor> IdleOne: then?
[20:48] <luw> thune3: statement screen?  what other minor issues should one be worried about running the 64bit kernel?
[20:49] <IdleOne> Kjeldor: now type: wine itunesetup.exe
[20:49] <IdleOne> Kjeldor: assuming you already installed wine
[20:49] <Kjeldor> kjeldor@kjeldor-laptop:~$ cd ~/downloads
[20:49] <Kjeldor> bash: cd: /home/kjeldor/downloads: No such file or directory
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> luw: some hardware manufacturers only make 32bit drivers. Some apps from 3rd party sources dont have 64bit support
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: its a capital D
[20:49] <rww> Kjeldor: capital D in Downloads
[20:50] <Arcidias> Kjeldor: Downloads with capital D
[20:50] <IdleOne> Kjeldor: I said cd ~/Downloads
[20:50] <Kjeldor> sorry
[20:50] <IdleOne> not downloads
[20:50] <IdleOne> linux is case sensitive :)
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !case
[20:50] <Kjeldor> its my first day =)
[20:50] <IdleOne> no problem
[20:50] <istvan> I have a powermac g4 running 10.04 that I just set up. It connects to the network with wireless just fine, but I can't get ethernet to work. I have other ubuntu/windows machines that are online via ethernet just fine. ideas?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: i'll put money on itunes failing badly
[20:51] <IdleOne> yup
[20:51] <rubbahdawg> oi, someone who can help me with meim trying to play a bit around with renoise on my friend's linux computer but he's got zero idea of how to use the os himself
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> istvan: does the interface get an IP address?
[20:51] <blackMatrix1> hi all. when you boot ubuntu from flash drive and install apache2, mysql etc and turn off the power and bring it back up, does it loose all the installations ?
[20:51] <luw> ActionParsnip: oh ok, now that does make sense.  i was stuck on what was unstable about ubuntu and was considering them their own thing.
[20:51] <urbmen> hello again I have installed the flashplugin-nonfree, I have closed and opened mozilla and I still can not view youtube or tv catch up
[20:52] <istvan> ActionParsnip, under the conenctons menu tool it just says 'disconnected'
[20:52] <Arcidias> blackMatrix1: depends, if it is a live usb - yes, but if it has a persistence option - then yes
[20:52] <xangua> !usb
[20:52] <xangua> if is not a persistent install, yes urbmen
[20:52] <luw> but i guess youre right, you cant really do that
[20:52] <IdleOne> Kjeldor: when you get a bunch of errors while wine is trying to install itunes you will understand why ActionParsnip suggested Rhythmbox
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> istvan: screw that, run: ifconfig   do you see an address for your adapter
[20:52] <Arcidias> blackMatrix1: the former was a "no"
[20:52] <urbmen> just for the record I have basic level experience with ubuntu
[20:53] <blackMatrix1> Arcidias: where do you change the settings for persistence
[20:53] <Arcidias> well you must have a casper-rw loop file
[20:53] <izatt82> hello to the IRC world
[20:53] <rubbahdawg> i need help installing the "real time threads" for sound buffering or something like that, but i dont get how to write in the config as im asked to do in the readme
[20:53] <Kjeldor> but I also want to sync my apps
[20:53] <Kjeldor> =(
[20:53] <Arcidias> hi izatt82
[20:53] <nUboon2Age> Kjeldor: just fyi, last i checked the newest itunes wine was succesfull with was 7.3 i think.
[20:53] <batbrat> I am trying to install freeglut3 and libqt4-dev on my Dell Inspiron 15R without also installing the mesa packages. My laptop has an ATI Radeon HD5470 card and I already have fglrx-dev. What is a good workaround?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> urbmen: ok can you give the output of:   lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; ; dpkg -l | grep swf
[20:53] <izatt82> hello
[20:54] <Arcidias> blackMatrix1: well, when you make the live usb you must tell it to have persistence
[20:54] <Arcidias> blackMatrix1: how did you do it?from windows or linux host?"
[20:54] <urbmen> say again sorry what do you want me to do
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: you have a device from one of the most shortsigted and ignorant companies. What did you expect
[20:54] <izatt82> i gave up on installing itunes in wine and just downloaded virtualbox PERL because it has USB support
[20:54] <Arcidias> I second what ActionParsnip said
[20:54] <istvan> ActionParsnip, only an inet6... huh... thats weird. why isn't that working then?
[20:54] <blackMatrix1> Arcidias: you mean when I create the bootable usb I have to set persistence ? I created the CD from Windows host.
[20:55] <rubbahdawg> please someone...
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> istvan: does the interface have flashing lights around the network cable
[20:55] <Ober7> Kjeldor why don't you try and run MS windows in a virtual machine? i have the apple cure too and thats what i do
[20:55] <istvan> ActionParsnip, nope
[20:55] <nUboon2Age> Kjeldor: which might be useful for you still, but just so you know wine isn't able to run newer versions of itunes.  you can always check the wine appdb at http://appdb.winehq.com to see if a particular windows program is working on wine yet.
[20:55] <Arcidias> blackMatrix1: oic, then see pendrivelinux.org
[20:55]  * batbrat hopes to solve the problem
[20:55] <magicianlord> Is LPIA available for 10.04
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> istvan: then its not plugged in right, there is a standard that there should be lights around the link. Check the router link light too
[20:55] <Arcidias> blackMatrix1: they have a tool which can make you a persistent usb drive
[20:55] <Ober7> apple curse*
[20:55] <Arcidias> magicianlord: no
[20:56] <Kjeldor> how do i run ms windows in a virtual machine?
[20:56] <nUboon2Age> virtualbox is a pretty good way to run stuff from other OSs.  Its not too bad to figure out Kjeldor.
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> magicianlord: for Canonical themselves: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-November/000643.html
[20:56] <izatt82> dont use virtualbox OSE though it doesn't have USB support. if needing it for the iphone make sure to get virtualbox PERL
[20:56] <Arcidias> magicianlord: as ActionParsnip pasted a link earlier - Canonical dropped support
[20:56] <istvan> ActionParsnip, no, there are no lights on the computer. Also, if i set my netbook up as a bridge and plug this computer into that, it works fine, so it's not HW, it's my home netowork (which i'm not admin of)
[20:56] <Ober7> Kjeldor: use a virtual machine like virtual box
[20:56] <magicianlord> ActionParsnip: since which version
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: thats the only real way but it requires a windows license and install media. You will also be running Windows inside ubuntu (quite a lot of bloat)
[20:57] <Arcidias> 10.04
[20:57] <Arcidias> magicianlord: 10.04, as was pointed
[20:57] <Flannel> Arcidias, magicianlord, ActionParsnip: Debian still supports it strongly.
[20:57] <Arcidias> Flannel: the question was about ubuntu and we are in an ubuntu help channel
[20:57] <magicianlord> Arcidias: i'm in terminal, so it's a little hard to type that into links
[20:57] <izatt82> http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7-on-virtualbox/
[20:57] <blackMatrix1> Arcidias: Thank you. I am using the pendrivelinux and I see the option to set persistence. one more question, Is max persistence only 4GB or its because of my usb size ?
[20:57] <Ober7> Kjeldor: like Arcidias said you need to have a legal windows cd or iso
[20:58] <izatt82> its pretty easy to installit
[20:58] <Arcidias> blackMatrix1: it's the maximum size, I'm afraid
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> izatt82: sounds expensive, i'd use a cheap XP license
[20:58] <Kjeldor> so now, how do i uninstall itunes from wine?
[20:58] <Flannel> Arcidias: Of course.  But Ubuntu doesn't support LPIA anymore, so the recommended upgrade path (since I'm not aware of any community supported LPIA effort) is Debian.
[20:58] <rww> magicianlord: It was dropped for 10.04, and pretty bad in 9.10. There is no supported upgrade path for LPIA users; if you have one, you're recommended to reinstall with a sane architecture.
[20:59] <nUboon2Age> magicianlord: here's the ubuntu dev announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-November/000643.html
[20:59] <rww> Flannel: anything that can run LPIA can run x86, afaik?
[20:59] <magicianlord> rww: so it's not worth installing 9.10 over 10.04 on a netbook?
[20:59] <rww> magicianlord: no
[20:59] <Flannel> rww: Ah, is that the case?
[20:59] <blackMatrix1> Arcidias: thats good enough...till I completely move away from all that disk space windows is sitting on :-)
[20:59] <magicianlord> i would still like to try
[20:59] <kyle_> hello peeps. In ubuntu 10.4/Nautilus 2.30.1 How can I search for files in sub dir's.
[20:59] <rww> magicianlord: congratulations. enjoy wasting your time
[20:59] <Arcidias> blackMatrix1: glad to hear it
[21:00] <magicianlord> wasting my time is what i do
[21:00] <Kjeldor> How do I uninstall itunes from wine?
[21:00] <xangua> Kjeldor: apps>wine>uninstall
[21:00] <Arcidias> blackMatrix1: btw, the process of making the 4gb casper loop file takes some time and the progress bar does not move, so sit it out, don't freak out
[21:01] <rww> Flannel: I've never heard of one that didn't, and last time I read anything by Intel about it, they were planning to keep it that way
[21:01] <Sid123> what is a suitable player for playing HD video in lucid (.mkv 11 GB of size) smoothly
[21:01] <izatt82> VLC?
[21:01] <istvan> ActionParsnip, also, uner network connections ipv6 is set to ignore.. so idk why that has an address
[21:01] <magicianlord> is anyone here using 10.04? is it still usuable after the upgrade issues?
[21:01] <xangua> Sid123: are you using a netbook¿
[21:02] <xangua> magicianlord: what upgrade issues¿
[21:02] <rww> Flannel: I don't see LPIA on http://www.debian.org/ports/ , incidentally.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK248&q=lpia+10.04&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=     It's pretty much all over :)
[21:02] <magicianlord> xangua: there was some recent update that rendered grub 2 inoperable
[21:02] <Sid123> xangua: NO .I am using a desktop with nvidia GEfore graphics card
[21:03] <xangua> magicianlord: i set up updates every 2 weeks, i hope hen that ehy fix if in teh next 2 weeks S:
[21:03] <Arcidias> Sid123: then VLC
[21:03] <xangua> or mplayer
[21:03] <magicianlord> good idea, but what if the bug happens when you update
[21:04] <izatt82> i use VLC to watch all my video files no matter what type
[21:04] <xangua> magicianlord: does this affects only dual boot systems¿¿
[21:04] <rww> magicianlord: do you have a bug number I can look at?
[21:04] <livingdaylight> guys, I'm on Ubuntu running VB for the first time. I've used it a couple times a couple years back and the setup seems different now as to how I recall it.
i already have tried,but it was not playing smoothly
[21:05] <acathla> Sid123, mplayer with VDPAU
[21:05] <livingdaylight> Basically, I had no trouble finding the .iso and loading it. Now, however, I can't seem to find where or when during the process I create the path to the .iso. Can someone help?
[21:05] <magicianlord> nope
[21:05] <livingdaylight> I dont know when to point VB to the .iso in my downloads folder
[21:05] <rubbahdawg> how does one reach enlightment and attention?
[21:05] <Arcidias> rubbahdawg: E17 has a package in the repos
[21:06] <Arcidias> afaik
[21:06] <BiNhOw> hi
[21:06] <BiNhOw> i`m from brazil
[21:06] <BiNhOw> looking girls..
[21:06] <rubbahdawg> arcidias, sorry what?
[21:06] <izatt82> livinglight goto settings and then click on storage
[21:06] <ikonia> BiNhOw: please look elsewhere
[21:06] <maco> BiNhOw: wrong place
[21:06] <rubbahdawg> repos?, im veeery new to linux
[21:06] <ikonia> BiNhOw: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[21:06] <kyle_> if i do that can I thin say i want to move them all to one folder.
[21:06] <maco> rubbahdawg: repos = repositories. servers full of software
[21:06] <BiNhOw> ikonia sorry
[21:06] <Sid123> acathla: what is VDPAU .does it support all graphics card?
[21:06] <batbrat> Um, do GL/gl.h and GL/glu.h come with the fglrx-dev package? That seems to be the issue
[21:06] <Arcidias> rubbahdawg: weren't you asking about Enlightenment17 the window manager?
[21:07] <batbrat> Can someone please help me figure this out?
[21:07] <acathla> Sid123, let me find some URLs for you
[21:07] <istvan> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/biL47eXt <-- there. that might be more helpful than my explaining
[21:07] <rubbahdawg> arcidias, no sorry, i was jokin coz i tried to reach attention about my sound problem earlier
ok
[21:07] <rubbahdawg> im trying to use renoise, but i got problems with installing "real time threads"
[21:07] <acathla> Sid123, table for supported nvidia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo
[21:08] <rubbahdawg> could you help me if i specify a bit further?
[21:08] <Arcidias> rubbahdawg: I'm afraid I am of no use to you there, my friend
[21:08] <nUboon2Age> livingdaylight: i can try.  are you just trying to figure out the path to a file?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> istvan: i'd try a known good cable, or try a different port on the router
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> istvan: check the connection LED on the router is lit
[21:08] <cesc_> guys I decided to install driver RTL8187 instead of RTL8187L which I installed earlier on.
[21:09] <livingdaylight> nUboon2Age, yes
[21:09] <istvan> ActionParsnip, the cable is fine, as i said it connects to the bridged laptop fine. also, if i read that ifconfig correctly it shows some packets both for read and write?
[21:09] <nUboon2Age> livingdaylight: clarification: are you saying you're using Visual Basic on Ubuntu?
[21:09] <cesc_> when trying to compile the driver ...... I got this output... let me pastebin it.
[21:09] <livingdaylight> nUboon2Age, Virtual Box
[21:09] <Arcidias> nUboon2Age: VirtualBox
[21:09] <nUboon2Age> livingdaylight: ah virtualbox
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> istvan: it is recieving packets, try setting the ipv4 address manually
[21:10] <Arcidias> livingdaylight: you want to boot from the iso in your Downloads folder, right?
[21:10] <livingdaylight> Arcidias, yes
[21:10] <magicianlord> What is planned for 10.10?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> !maverick | magicianlord
[21:10] <Sid123> <acathla:will xbmc do it?
[21:10] <Arcidias> magicianlord: Gnome3!
[21:10] <istvan> ActionParsnip, do i need to reboot or just hit apply after that? (and should i use the gui?)
[21:10] <nUboon2Age> livingdaylight: i think Arcidias may be of more help.  i've used virtualbox but not enough to be that much help.
[21:10] <magicianlord> Gnome 3 would be nice.
[21:11] <Arcidias> livingdaylight: then make a new machine, by clicking the New button up left
[21:11] <rubbahdawg> arcidias, do you have any idea what it mans when it says, " To enable RT thread creation via PAM open the /etc/security/limits.conf file as root (or via sudo)."
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> istvan: you can use any method you like, shouldnt need a reboot. Linux is designed to not need reboots
[21:11] <Arcidias> rubbahdawg: no idea
[21:11] <rubbahdawg> darned, thank you anyway
[21:11] <acathla> Sid123, yes, I think, never tried. With 10.04, you just install some libs and type "mplayer -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau youfile.mkv"
[21:11] <Arcidias> livingdaylight: follow everything till you have completed the setup, then click on the name of your setup
[21:11] <acathla> there are some tutorial for ubuntu
[21:11] <livingdaylight> Arcidias, I assigned the name, memory and hd size..
[21:11] <livingdaylight> Arcidias, just need to create the path to the .iso from which I will boot and install os
[21:12] <Arcidias> livingdaylight: so now go down to Storage
[21:12] <izatt82> livingdaylight:  after you have created a new VM go to settings and then click on storage on the right you can select the ISO
[21:12] <Kjeldor> how come itunes doesnt clean out from WINE diretory after uninstall
[21:12] <Arcidias> livingdaylight: Click Storage and add a CD
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: because of the way its coded. Some apps work extremely well, some work badly, some won't even install
[21:12] <Arcidias> livingdaylight: and it would give you a selection box, where you can find the iso, then add it, then Start the virtual box
[21:12] <acathla> Sid123, just install libvdpau1
[21:13] <Arcidias> livingdaylight: and that;s it!
[21:13] <Kjeldor> so what shall I do?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: you need to remove some entries in ~/.config
[21:13] <randyrkelly> is there another zip file manager that is very good
[21:13] <Kjeldor> how?
[21:13] <Arcidias> guys, I gotta get going
[21:13] <Arcidias> good night all
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: check in ~/.config/menus/applications-merged
[21:14] <Kjeldor> how do I do that?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> randyrkelly: you can use command line, what are you trying to achieve?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: open the folkder in nautilus, you can press CTRL+H to sow hidden files
[21:14] <randyrkelly> well unzip the android sdk
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> randyrkelly: whats the file name?
[21:14] <Kjeldor> nautilus? where is that?
i have already but doesn't seem to help much
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: click Places -> Home Folder
[21:15] <randyrkelly> tgz
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: that runs nautilus
[21:15] <Kjeldor> done
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> randyrkelly: so its: filename.tgz
[21:15] <Kjeldor> next?
[21:15] <randyrkelly> ActionParsnip, yes
[21:15] <acathla> Sid123, watch the output of mplayer, it will tell you what's wrong
[21:16] <randyrkelly> ActionParsnip, 	android-sdk_r06-linux_86.tgz
[21:16] <cesc_> guys I decided to install driver RTL8187 instead of RTL8187L which I installed earlier on.
[21:16] <cesc_> when trying to compile the driver ...... I got this output...  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/yMWK1F9r
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> randyrkelly: gzip -cd filename.tgz | tar xvf -
[21:16] <cesc_> I got some errors there.. any help?
[21:16] <randyrkelly> ok
[21:17] <istvan> ActionParsnip, the lights on my switch for that port are off. and it's not the cable, i tried that same cable with my netbook (again just now) which is in brdge and it worked no problem
it says ------------->MPlayer SVN-r1.0~rc3+svn20090426-4.4.3 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
[21:18] <Sid123> mplayer: could not connect to socket
[21:18] <Sid123> mplayer: No such file or directory
[21:18] <Sid123> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
[21:18] <FloodBot3> Sid123: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> istvan: ok, when it works on the netbook, does the LED on the router light up?
[21:19] <CT1> Hi. Other than '~/.gtk-bookmarks'  Where do the other places that appear in 'Places' come from?  I have an NTFS volume mounted on boot but it appears twice in 'Places'  Where should I start looking for why this happens?  "Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library"
[21:19] <Kjeldor> ActionParsnip: What do I do next? I have Places>Home Folder opened
[21:19] <istvan> ActionParsnip, i used the netbook to connect the coputer having questions. I set the netbook to forward the inet connection from wireless to it's ethernet port. and i tried 4 different ports ont he switch, 2 of which i know to be good.
hey can u help
[21:20] <cesc_> guys I decided to install driver RTL8187 instead of RTL8187L which I installed earlier on.
[21:20] <cesc_> when trying to compile the driver ...... I got this output...  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/yMWK1F9r
[21:20] <cesc_> I got some errors there.. any help?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: read the previous stuff I said, its all there
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> istvan: fine but if you look at the router, is the connected indicator LED on for the link??
[21:21] <Kjeldor> ActionParsnip: Im inside .nautilus folder now...
[21:22] <istvan> not when the computer having isues is connected. there are a bunch of other computers connected to that switch, and all of them do have the lights, yes.
[21:22] <nlko> hey, if i want to install ubuntu on my laptop with encrypted drive from the start do i need the alternative cd?
[21:22] <istvan> ActionParsnip, so i'm confused esp. cause ifconfig said packets were getting recieved, but the lights on the switch say no connection?
[21:23] <Quantum_Ion> nlko, Are you gonna be erasing everything on the hardrive
[21:23] <nlko> Quantum_Ion: yes
[21:23] <nlko> Quantum_Ion: fresh install
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: read what I said. I never mentioned .nautilus, try reading and not guessing
[21:24]  * Bridge| fresh installs his brain......
[21:24] <ratdog> hello, somehow i lost the gnome network manager on the desktop. Where it would go in the panel. It doesn not auto start. Im on Lucid.
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> istvan: does it turn on with the netbook which gets the web when its connected?
[21:24] <istvan> ActionParsnip, havn't tried that. will do now
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> ratdog: press ALT+F2, type: nm-applet   press ENTER
[21:24] <CT1> Where can I read up on how the "Places" menu is populated? "~/.gtk-bookmarks" is only half the story.  How are drives added to the menu automatically?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> istvan: i asked you 4 times now
[21:24] <nlko> Quantum_Ion: ive gone for http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-alternate-i386.iso, seem ok?
[21:25] <cesc_> I'm desperate. I'm trying to install drivers for my Alfa Network AWUS036H on my machine running xubuntu. This wireless usb adapter has chipset Realtek RTL8187. Early this afternoon I installed RTL8187L driver successfully on kernel but the device is not recognized. I reckon it must be chipset RTL8187 instead (withou the final L). Now I'm trying to install it and I get errors. The output is here
[21:25] <Kjeldor> ActionParsnip: Even if I read your post 100x, I still wouldnt understand it as I am a new user to UBUNTU. It would be of great help if you could lay it down to me in "laymans terms" for the time being while I'm learning
[21:25] <cesc_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/yMWK1F9r
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> (21:13:49) ActionParsnip: Kjeldor: check in ~/.config/menus/applications-merged
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: you are just lazy
[21:26] <thune3> cesc_: i'm guessing that the "2007" version that you are trying to compile is not compatible with newer kernels, but I'm probably wrong.
[21:26] <istvan> ActionParsnip, and i answered that all of the other comptuers (including this one which is running 10.04) that are connected to that switch have the lights on the switch that corospond to them on. but i figured i'd give up and tell u what the deal with the netbook is too.
[21:26] <Quantum_Ion> nlko What was on the hardrive before Linux ?
[21:26] <Kjeldor> how do i do that "check in"
[21:26] <ratdog> ActionParsnip did not work..
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: open the folder
[21:27] <Kjeldor> Im a windows user, and new to UBUNTU sorry
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: you arent new to reading though
[21:27] <ratdog> ActionParsnip something popsuo then disapears
[21:27] <Kjeldor> yeah, but how do I execute what your saying
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> istvan: if you run: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product name for the wired connection?
[21:27] <nlko> Quantum_Ion: windows and linux
[21:27] <bsmith093> i bought one of those sata ide to usb kits on ebay, i cant get it to work and honestly it looks very flimsy could it be a fake because the adapter that the sata cables pluginto feells very light
[21:28] <Quantum_Ion> nlko you said the disk was encrypted by what operating system ?
[21:28] <nlko> Quantum_Ion: im pretty sure its not a big deal, was just wondering which iso had the encrypted drive option at install time
[21:28] <nlko> Quantum_Ion: it wasnt, i want it to be now, bu ubuntu
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: you follow the folder tree until you get to the folder, you will then see the files which are being merged with your apps menu and can clean them up
[21:28] <Quantum_Ion> nlko, take the 32 Desktop Install I would wipe the hard disk clean if you just plan to use Ubuntu Linux on the drive
[21:29] <sarah32> hi i have a small problem could pls someone help me ?
[21:29] <CT1> Can anyone tell me, or point me to some documents explaining how the "Places" menu is populated please?
[21:29] <sarah32> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf)
[21:29] <sarah32> E: Error occurred while processing language-pack-gnome-tl-base (NewFileDesc2)
[21:29] <sarah32> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid-proposed_main_binary-i386_Packages
[21:29] <FloodBot3> sarah32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <Kjeldor> Im totally lost
[21:29] <sarah32> me too
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sarah32: use a pastebin and we can see the full output, please dont flood in future
[21:29] <cesc_> thune3 on Alfa web site I downloaded the latest driver for it an it says for Linux kernel 2.6.x
[21:30] <sarah32> sorry
[21:30] <ratdog> sigh
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: from your home directory you will see the ".config" folder, double click it, then double click "menus", then double click "applications-merged"
[21:30]  * ActionParsnip puts away his spoon
[21:31] <Kjeldor> got it!
[21:31] <Kjeldor> then?
[21:31] <ratdog> ActionParsnip any other ideers?
[21:31]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[21:31] <ratdog> lol
[21:31] <ratdog> >:)
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Kjeldor: that folder has all the items which wine has failed to remove, remove what you don't need
[21:32] <cesc_> I'm desperate. I'm trying to install drivers for my Alfa Network AWUS036H on my machine running xubuntu. This wireless usb adapter has chipset Realtek RTL8187. Early this afternoon I installed RTL8187L driver successfully on kernel but the device is not recognized. I reckon it must be chipset RTL8187 instead (withou the final L). Now I'm trying to install it and I get errors. The output is here
[21:32] <cesc_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/yMWK1F9r
[21:32] <Kjeldor> done moved to trash...
[21:32] <daedalus_> Hi people. Yesterday I could zoom in using shift+scroll wheel (after activating the restricted nvidia drivers) today it won't let me. I don't see the option in the nividia program
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> ratdog: install wicd if youo don't use 3G
 what driver did you install ?
 did you try to install compat-wireless ?
[21:33] <ratdog> ActionParsnip done that, still no luck :/
[21:33] <Kjeldor> how come when I open wine, I still see alot of itunes applications inside? Is there a way to remove those permanently?
 and what OS do you use ?
[21:33] <cesc_> a driver for my usb wireless adapter.. Alfa Network model AWUS036H
[21:34] <cesc_> I use xubuntu updated to today.
[21:34] <istvan> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/FKbiiK1q
[21:34] <cesc_> xubuntu 10.04
[21:34] <cesc_> No I did not try to install compat-wireless.
 what driver did you install ? and if you use lucid i do and i have rtl8187l and rtl8187b i mean i lucid u dont need to install any drivers unless u want use aircrack or something
[21:34] <packagedeliverer> Hi, I have a newbie question, I'm using a command line. Is it possible to link a directory to another? for example doing "cd /folder/subfolder" positions you in "/folder/subfolder2" ?
[21:35] <Jordan_U> cesc_: First thing I would try is "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic"
 do you use alfa just for internet or for hacking neigbours too ?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> istvan: our wireless has an IP
[21:36] <Jordan_U> !tab | sarah32
do you use alfa just for internet or for hacking neigbours too ?
[21:36] <cesc_> sarah32 this usb wireless adapter.. I use it on another machine with ubuntu 10.04 with no problems at all. It worked straight away without installing any drivers.. On this other machine with xubuntu 10.04 it doesn't work.
[21:36] <sarah32> sorry jordan
[21:36] <ZykoticK9> packagedeliverer, check out the ln command, you need to use -s for directories
[21:36] <Jordan_U> sarah32: No reason to be sorry :)
[21:36] <istvan> ActionParsnip, yes, it's online with wireless just fine. but i'm looking to use the ethernet. and as far as i can tell those settings are separate? they are int he gui network connections anyway...
[21:36] <nUboon2Age> cesc_: i see on the web where others have used ndiswrapper successfully with the RTL8187.
[21:36] <killerforeverr> http://icecream-co.webnode.com/chatbox/ all go ur gonna be gms and pms now now now
[21:36] <killerforeverr> http://icecream-co.webnode.com/chatbox/ all go ur gonna be gms and pms now now now
[21:36] <killerforeverr> http://icecream-co.webnode.com/chatbox/ all go ur gonna be gms and pms now now now
[21:36] <FloodBot3> killerforeverr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:36] <nUboon2Age> cesc_: so that is always an option.
[21:36] <packagedeliverer> Hey ZykoticK9, ln produces "Operation not permitted" I'm a logged in as root
  check up dmesg
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> istvan: you can use network manager in the indicator applet
[21:37] <packagedeliverer> A google search told me symbolic links were not possible for fat32 nor ntfs?
[21:37] <Jordan_U> cesc_: If it works out of the box with 10.04 on another machine then you probably shouln't be compiling and installing non-standard drivers.
[21:37] <ZykoticK9> packagedeliverer, the syntax would be like "ln -s /source/directory /source/directory2" - you'd need to use sudo if not in home directory
[21:38] <daedalus_> Next question, does ubuntu come with something to play rss/xml podcasts?
[21:38] <istvan> ActionParsnip, yes, thats what i'm using, and i think i have everything set rite. if not, i'v changed it around pleanty of times
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> packagedeliverer, i'd recommend against using "root" account in ubuntu
[21:39] <Jordan_U> cesc_: Xubuntu uses exactly the same kernel an drivers as Ubuntu, so it's probably not actually a problem with the wireless drivers. Possibly a problem with USB in general (can you use other USB devices?) or a simple configuration problem.
[21:39] <cesc_> sarah32 I have my own internet connection but I have experimented hacking some neigbours just to see that this works.
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> helpmeeee: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tunesviewer-itunes-university-media-and-podcasts-in-linux.html
[21:39] <nUboon2Age> cesc_: i wonder if differences in xubuntu and ubuntu's network manager could explain the difference.  There is a #xubuntu channel that might be helpful too.
 i know your ip
[21:39] <cesc_> :)
[21:40] <sarah32> will report you to your neighbours
[21:40] <packagedeliverer> ZykoticK9, I'm using telnet with sh, not bash, I'll need to figure out how to get sudo working
[21:40] <ZykoticK9> packagedeliverer, if you really are "root" you don't need sudo
 try to install if you know how compat-wireless with those drivers your internet will work and aircrack too i mean if you want
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> packagedeliverer, telnet = fail, check out SSH for secure connections
[21:41] <sarah32> and check up aircrack website there is a very lot of info about alfa
[21:41] <cesc_> the bizarre thing is why my Alfa Network works out of the box on my PC with ubuntu lucid lynx and not on my other pc with xubuntu 10.04.
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> sarah32: i know yours too
 cuz there maybe is driver missing
 no you know my proxy
[21:42] <ratdog> ActionParsnip can i purge wirc with terminal then re-install
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> sure
[21:42] <packagedeliverer> ZykoticK9, it's an emtec NAS, it can't handle SSH, hence telnet
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> sarah32: what's my ip ;)
[21:42] <Jordan_U> packagedeliverer: That is correct, you cannot create symlinks on fat32 (not sure about ntfs) and you also cannot create hard links to directories on almost all filesystems.
[21:42] <cesc_> let's see compat-wireless in ubuntu software center
 type dmesg and you will see if oyur card is working or there is a driver missing
[21:42] <ratdog> ActionParsnip can i have help with the command?
[21:42] <nUboon2Age> cesc_: that's why i say it could be about differences between ubuntu and xubuntu.
[21:42] <cesc_> ok let me see.
[21:42] <istvan> ActionParsnip, did i miss waht you were saying with the connection tools? i stillc an't get a ethernet connection...
 911?
[21:42] <packagedeliverer> Jordan_U, I also tried ntfs, it didn't work
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> ratdog: sudo apt-get --purge remove wicd   will remove it fully
[21:43] <ratdog> ty, /me hands ActionParsnip a DEW
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> sarah32: i'm an ubuntu member, we get cloaks
[21:43] <winterweaver> I need to install some packages, but it fails because I previously installed docky, and now have the ricotz ppa packages conflicting with the default packages. See error here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1553537
 im a Windows 7 member
[21:43] <sarah32> so what
[21:43] <sarah32> ?
[21:43] <sarah32> im better
[21:44] <FloodBot3> sarah32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> sarah32: yes, but you dont get irc cloaks to completely mask your ip
[21:44] <sarah32> :)
[21:44] <rww> anyone can get an irc cloak to mask their isp. huzzah unaffiliated/ cloaks
[21:44] <slidinghorn> trying to use conkyforecast and need help getting an image to show for current conditions.  was recommended to use a template, but after seeing an example, it's over my head -- looking for someone "taller" than myself ;-)
 i dont know much about cloaks etc
[21:45] <sarah32> :)
[21:45] <owd95> someone that can recommend me a good nvidia card, i have a ati 5770 now?
[21:46] <mena> hi
[21:46] <Daekdroom> owd95, You shouldn't be thinking of getting a new videocard if you have a 5770
[21:46] <mena> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[21:46] <headkase314> owd95, if you're Ubuntu only a 5770 should be adequate for pretty-well any task?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Daekdroom: depends on requirements
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> owd95: whats the system for?
[21:47] <Daekdroom> ActionParsnip, I can't think of anyone using Ubuntu and envying more than the power of a 5770 unless he's going to use it for something other than 3D power.
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Daekdroom: we'll see
[21:47] <headkase314> owd95, I say that because there aren't that many cutting-edge high-requirement games for Ubuntu.  Now if you're dual-booting with Windows and want games there then that's different...
[21:48] <ratdog> k, ActionParsnip how can i purge gnome network manager?
[21:49] <owd95> i heard that nvidia cards works better in linux then ati... and games not working great in wine...
[21:49] <ratdog> hehhe
[21:49] <owd95> and compiz not works smooth with my ati card...
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> ratdog: sudo apt-get --purge remove network-manager
[21:50] <thewanderer1> how can I install Ubuntu on a pendrive? how much space do I need?
[21:50] <ratdog> ActionParsnip took a break
[21:50] <ratdog> o ty
[21:50] <headkase314> owd95, my Radeon HD 4670 works like a champ in Ubuntu (I'm Ubuntu only) but I don't use it in WINE.  What processor do you have?  I think that may make more difference for you?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> owd95: nvidia always work fantastically in Linux
[21:50] <owd95> headkase314: i have an intel core i5 750
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> owd95: nvidia have been supporting Linux for at least 10 years that I'm aware of, and probably earlier
[21:50] <headkase314> owd95, do you know the frequency? (Ghz)
[21:51] <owd95> headkase314: yes, 2.6GHz i think with turbo
[21:52] <owd95> ActionParsnip: nice, can you recommend me a good card then?
[21:52] <headkase314> owd95, I can't see your processor being a bottleneck then.  However a 5770 is a decent card too.  So, it makes me wonder if WINE itself is what is deficient here..  Opinions anyone?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> owd95: nvidia but not the very very latest ones and you'll be fine
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, do you want a LiveCD type environment on the USB key or a real install onto a USB key?
[21:53] <thewanderer1> ZykoticK9: an install - and yes, I'm aware of flash wear or w/e, I will handle that stuff
[21:53] <zipper> Hi everbody
[21:53] <owd95> headkase314: so you think i can keep my card?
[21:53] <thewanderer1> only I don't have an optical drive...
[21:53] <zipper> i got a problem burning dvd0s with brasero
[21:53] <headkase314> owd95, one second googling
[21:53] <DasEi> !unetbootin | thewanderer1
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, do a regular install and select it as the install drive - BUT you need to click "advanced" and select to install GRUB onto the USB key if you want to select it to boot from BIOS (understand that part?  might not be clear)
[21:54] <zipper> i cant burn any dvd
[21:54] <DasEi>  thewanderer1: unetbootin is very confortable to me
[21:55] <thewanderer1> ZykoticK9: yes, well, I can manage GRUB, I only needed to know if this is possible in a straightforward way
[21:55] <thewanderer1> will the persistent install produce an overlay so it keeps all files (aufs or so)?
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, if you want a LiveCD type then use unetbootin or startup disk creator as suggseted by others
[21:55] <owd95> ActionParsnip: thx
[21:55] <owd95> !
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, both ways are "pretty" straight forward actually
[21:55] <thewanderer1> ZykoticK9: not really, I want a persistent install so that I can store files, packages, and tweak settings
[21:56] <headkase314> owd95, I'm not all that familiar with WINE but would WINETricks -> http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks help make programs run better / easier to run?  There is a link to Ubuntu .deb files on that page that includes the latest WINETricks
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, if you want persistent then i'd recommend using the Ubuntu Startup Disk creator over unetbootin
[21:56] <headkase314> owd95, Includes the latest WINE tricks as part of the latest WINE for Ubuntu
[21:56] <owd95> headkase314: thx! i will try that!
[21:56] <bsmith093> is there a way to batch streamdump about 15 .ram files
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, persitent != install
[21:56] <headkase314> owd95, no promises but I hope it helps
[21:57] <headkase314> owd95, as always read a lot, type a little ;)
[21:57] <bsmith093> i know i could do it one at a time manually but that would take forever so id much rather have some software do it for me ( just feed it the rams
[21:57] <thewanderer1> ZykoticK9: I thought it would give me an overlay so that all my files and settings are kept, like an aufs branch mounted over my root filesystem that uses some writable directory as the backing store
[21:57] <thewanderer1> I'm unclear on this now - what does persistent mean here?
[21:58] <thewanderer1> I'd like it to behave exactly like a disk install
[21:58] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, some of the USB key is used to store files/data
[21:58] <thewanderer1> ah-ha, so no persistency in Ubuntu...
[21:58] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, you can perform a regular install onto the USB - just do the Grub manual thing
[21:58] <thune3> thewanderer1: if doing full install to USB, be aware of  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/549756 it was only recently fixed and could affect you if installing with lucid.
[21:59] <thewanderer1> thune3: thanks, it looks scary
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, that's want i'm talking about grub
[21:59] <opij> The LXDE desktop environment doesnt seem to save me any resources, yet, Lubuntu barely takes up 60 MB of ram. I'm not looking for non-ubuntu support here, just would like to know what I'm doing wrong.
[21:59] <thewanderer1> I don't like rescuing my system as I don't have an optical drive :P
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, just click on "advanced" and manually point grub to the usb during install!
[21:59] <thewanderer1> okay
[22:00] <thewanderer1> so where do I boot the installer from?
[22:00] <thewanderer1> from the same pendrive that I install to?
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, you'd need 2 USB drives
[22:00] <thewanderer1> uh
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, did you say you have no optical drive?
[22:01] <thewanderer1> yes, I did
[22:01] <thewanderer1> not even one at this house :P
[22:01] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, then you'd need 2 usb drives to do anything.  good luck man :)
[22:02] <Chiggins> Could someone help me get VNC up and running? I can't seem to connect to anything
[22:02] <thewanderer1> well, I can actually set that up with debootstrap...
[22:02] <thewanderer1> if I know what packages I need to get it going
[22:02] <headkase314> It amazes me that hardware is shifting so that sometimes you just don't have an optical drive.  I remember before optical drives and its looking like I'll see the end of optical drives too! ;)
[22:03] <opij> The LXDE desktop environment doesnt seem to save me any resources, yet, Lubuntu barely takes up 60 MB of ram. I'm not looking for non-ubuntu support here, just would like to know what I'm doing wrong.
[22:03] <thewanderer1> opij: LXDE is supposed to take 60-80MB RAM...
[22:04] <sarah32> cesc, are you still here?
[22:04] <Messy> i dont now why ubuntu doesnt come with an irc client
[22:04] <opij> thewanderer1, it's taking over 500
[22:04] <maco> Messy: it does... empathy... but its awful
[22:04] <slidinghorn> Messy:  it comes w/ xchat
[22:04] <slidinghorn> doesnt it?
[22:05] <Messy> No it doesnt
[22:05] <maco> slidinghorn: no, xubuntu does though, i think
[22:05] <craigbass1976> I've a friend on gutsy.  Though he's on broadband, connection is still too slow to upgrade to hardy, then to lucid.  Well, not if I don't want to be here all week.  How do I get thunderbird running once I get a clean lucid running, somehow using the tbird profile from gutsy
[22:05] <headkase314> slidinghorn, I had to install XChat
[22:05] <maco> kubuntu has quassel
[22:05] <Quantum_Ion> xchat has been he standard for a longtime
[22:05] <slidinghorn> i guess i just forgot installing it, lol
[22:05] <Messy> empathy doesnt have irc support and i installed xchat manually
[22:05] <maco> craigbass1976: just keep the dot files in ~
[22:05] <thewanderer1> Pidgin supports IRC :P
[22:05] <maco> craigbass1976: .mozilla and maybe .mozilla-thunderbird
[22:05] <Messy> yea but its not on default install
[22:05] <maco> craigbass1976: but you know, you can install clean and just not delete /home...
[22:05] <panoptical> mint comes with xchat
[22:05] <headkase314> Pidgin supports IRC?  I'll have to play with that when I get home!
[22:06] <maco> Messy: empathy does have ir suppot
[22:06] <panoptical> pidgin's irc support sucks
[22:06] <maco> Messy: its *bad*support, but its there
[22:06] <ZykoticK9> Messy, i agree with you re IRC - but it's offtopic
[22:06] <headkase314> Heheh, ok bad support ;)
[22:06] <ZykoticK9> maco, i wouldn't make the claim that empathy supports IRC - serious issues there...
[22:06] <Messy> I dont know what the topic is because i started xchat and it logged me in here automaticly
[22:06] <maco> Messy: bad enough that the initial setup wizard doesnt offer it. but if you go to create a new account through the menus, its there
[22:06] <maco> ZykoticK9: i *said* it was *bad*
[22:07] <maco> Messy:  its at the top of the window
[22:07] <sarah32> guys will ubuntu lucid work on my desktop pc ?
[22:07] <Messy> maco : I searched through the available new accounts and irc was not there
[22:07] <maco> sarah32: try with a live cd and find out
[22:07] <headkase314> sarah32, boot the live cd and try
[22:07] <maco> Messy: the initial thing on the wizard doesnt offer it
[22:07] <sarah32> i i have commodore
[22:07] <maco> Messy: but ive seen it in use
[22:07] <sarah32> and the other is atari
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> Messy, there is a "bug" that you need to add another type of account - prior to being able to successfully add an IRC account (with empathy)
[22:07] <thewanderer1> sarah32: it's not a "desktop PC" :P
[22:08] <headkase314> sarah32, there are two options when you boot from the cd: install and live cd desktop.  Go to the desktop and see if everything works.
[22:08] <batbrat> Hi
[22:08] <Messy> I see..
[22:08] <maco> ZykoticK9: i dont think thats a bug...im pretty sure its "this protocol is so crap, we need to hide it"
[22:08] <sarah32> my dad told me it is
[22:08] <batbrat> I'm trying to figure out an installation issue.
[22:08] <maco> sarah32: commodore is about 15 years too old
[22:08] <slidinghorn> running conkyforecast on Lucid.  Trying to use the images in /usr/share/conkyforecast/images/weathericons but they're not showing up.  My .conkyrc here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/478531/   and here's a screenshot: http://imagebin.org/109833
[22:08] <thewanderer1> sarah32: "PC" is a name used to refer to IBM-compatible personal computers. Commodore is not IBM-compatible. alright?
[22:08] <Quantum_Ion> I wish Ubuntu Linux recognized all wifi cards during the live cd tryout
[22:08] <headkase314> Don't make me pull out my Amiga and start bashing people with it! ;)
[22:08] <mneptok> maco: uhhh ... try 25
[22:08] <maco> thewanderer1: PC means Personal Computer, regardless of architecture
[22:08] <ZykoticK9> maco, it's an Empathy upstream bug - and they say they "won't fix" because it's too much work to fix IRC on Empathy and they recommend using an alternative :|
[22:08] <duffydack> linux on amiga is possible...:)
[22:09] <Quantum_Ion> Amiga is a collectors item
[22:09] <batbrat> I'm trying to install freeglut3 without libgl1-mesa-dev. I tried to compile it from source since the package manager could not help me.
[22:09] <maco> sarah32: you need a computer made in the last decade
[22:09] <Quantum_Ion> I wish I had kept my IBM PCjr
[22:09] <cesc> sarah32 yes I'm still here
[22:09] <sarah32> thewanderer1,  so what commodore is ? it isnt a tractor for sure
[22:09] <thewanderer1> maco: in the last 15 years :P
[22:09] <maco> sarah32: its a early-1980s computer
[22:09] <batbrat> When compiling from source, freeglut is unable to find the gl headers
[22:09] <headkase314> cesc, hows the wireless going?
[22:09] <Quantum_Ion> it used 5 1.4 floppy drive remember those
[22:09] <maco> sarah32: it doesnt meet the minimum specs required for ubuntu
[22:09] <batbrat> I located them at /usr/include/ATI/GL
[22:09] <cesc> trying to download the correct compat-wireless from ubuntu software center
[22:09] <thewanderer1> sarah32: sorry, Ubuntu doesn't provide a system architecture for Commodore/Atari
[22:09] <Slart> batbrat: have you installed the opengl headers for development?
[22:09] <maco> sarah32: you need an intel-compatible cpu and at least 256MB of RAM.. so.. around 1998 or newer
[22:10] <thewanderer1> sarah32: Ubuntu only works on i386 and amd64-compatible PC's
[22:10] <sarah32> cesc u can add backtrack repistory to your ubuntu and there u will have drivers for rtl8187 pathced for injecton so you wont need to compile or anything
[22:10] <batbrat> If you mean fglrx-dev,then yes Slart
[22:10] <mneptok> thewanderer1: and PPC
[22:10] <Quantum_Ion> sara32, I hope you have a modern laptop with 4GB of RAM MEMORY TOO
[22:10] <headkase314> thewanderer1, ppc too?  What is ps3 architecture?
[22:10] <sarah32> maco ok tnx
[22:10] <sarah32> :)
[22:10] <thewanderer1> hm, I wasn't aware for Ubuntu for PPC
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, sarah32 actually i doubt ubuntu would run on a true 386 these days
[22:10] <thewanderer1> s/for/of/
[22:10] <cesc> which is the backtrack repository?
[22:10] <maco> thewanderer1: its a community supported port
[22:10] <thewanderer1> ZykoticK9: alright, i387 :P
[22:11] <maco> !backtrack | cesc
[22:11] <headkase314> cesc, you mean backport?
[22:11] <Quantum_Ion> When XP is no longer supported by Micro I will just through Ubuntu Linux on it
[22:11] <batbrat> Slart: Do you know what needs to be done to get things working?
[22:11] <maco> ZykoticK9: 686 is minimum i think now
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> maco, i believe so as well ;)
[22:11] <sarah32> commodore was a calculator not a computer and i used it in 80's
[22:11] <sarah32> :)
[22:11] <maco> headkase314: no, cesc wants to use bt4's repos
[22:11] <thewanderer1> I haven't heard of packages being compiled for i686
[22:11] <cesc> no sarah32 suggested backtrack repository
[22:11] <Slart> batbrat: hmm.. nope.. but let me google around for a bit.. see if I can't find something useful
[22:11] <Oer> Quantum_Ion, good thought.
[22:11] <maco> thewanderer1: its been 486 for ages, but support for 486 is being dropped in 10.10
[22:12] <headkase314> maco, oh ok - was wondering if he was trying to get a backport of some wireless modules from +1
[22:12] <thewanderer1> maco: oh uh.
[22:12] <batbrat> Slart: Thanks. I hope you find something useful.
[22:12] <Quantum_Ion> sarah32, you can always take out the hardrive of old computers and go purchase a hardrive enclosure and use the old hard drive as a backup hardrive
[22:12] <thewanderer1> hm, I can see some interesting stuff in UNetBootin
[22:12] <maco> thewanderer1:  packages *say* 386, but they're not ;-)
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> thewanderer1, in Ubuntu the i386 is really i686
[22:12] <thewanderer1> ah, alright
[22:12] <thewanderer1> Developers, developers, developers.... :P
[22:12] <maco> afaik, they say 386 for legacy reasons.... ie, so upgrades dont freak out
[22:13] <Quantum_Ion> sarah32, every 4 -5 years you need to purchase a new computer
[22:13] <headkase314> thewanderer1, 10.10 I believe is going to be i686+ only, dropping i586?  Anyone confirm that?
[22:13] <thewanderer1> headkase314: I don't know, haven't been to Ubuntu for like 2 years
[22:13] <maco> Quantum_Ion: disagree
[22:13] <maco> Quantum_Ion: 10 years
[22:13] <maco> Quantum_Ion: well... for desktops
[22:13] <sarah32> Quantum_Ion, i bought last year msigt725
[22:13] <sarah32> msigt725
[22:14] <maco> Quantum_Ion: because they can be upgraded nicely :)  but laptops...ok sure 5....
[22:14] <Slart> batbrat: you've downloaded the source for freeglut somewhere?
[22:14] <sarah32> i think it will last few years
[22:14] <thewanderer1> if I select "10.04 Hd_media" in Unetbootin instead of "10.04 Live", will it install Ubuntu on my pendrive just like it is installed on a hard disk?
[22:14] <headkase314> Confirmed: http://www.thisweekinlinux.com/2010/06/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-drops-pre-i686-cpu-support-does-it-affect-you/
[22:15] <RickBuzzly_> You're one of my kind sarah32. Love the 8-bits.
[22:15] <sarah32> RickBuzzly_,  me too
[22:15] <sarah32> heheheh
[22:15] <aeon-ltd> headkase314: about time, kinda. if you have a i686 cpu, the difference is/was huge
[22:15] <RickBuzzly_> 6502 forever
[22:15] <thewanderer1> phew, my Pentium Pro is safe!
[22:15] <headkase314> aeon-ltd,  So no Atom processors for 10.10 as I'm certain those are i586?
[22:15] <thewanderer1> headkase314: what?!
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> headkase314, no they're not..
[22:16] <maco> headkase314: no.. im using an Atom right now with 10.10
[22:16] <aeon-ltd> headkase314: unr might still retain support
[22:16]  * maco is using normal kubuntu...
[22:16] <thewanderer1> Atom is amd64, guys...
[22:16] <aeon-ltd> headkase314: its not hard for canonical to supply 2 different kernels
[22:16] <RickBuzzly_> 68000 also :)
[22:16] <thewanderer1> unless you have some really ancient Atom stuff
[22:16] <headkase314> maco, ok I thought Atom was 586 I am absolutely willing to admit I'm wrong with that! ;)
[22:16] <maco> thewanderer1: only some. some are 32bit
[22:16] <Slart> !ot
[22:17] <thewanderer1> ok...
[22:17] <Quantum_Ion> Atom is Intel
[22:17] <Quantum_Ion> Atom is that processor in netbooks
[22:17] <Zol> how come I have around 75 processes of console-kit-daemon --no-daemon  running?
[22:17] <maco> Quantum_Ion: yes....and...? that doesnt prevent being amd64
[22:17] <Zol> I kill them but they return. :(
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> Zol, i only have 1
[22:18] <Quantum_Ion> AMD64 is made by AMD
[22:18] <thewanderer1> Quantum_Ion: no
[22:18] <maco> Quantum_Ion: amd64 is an architecture
[22:18] <Quantum_Ion> ATOM is made by Intel
[22:18] <k23> Zol, they are threads i guess
[22:18] <maco> Quantum_Ion: intel licenses it from amd
[22:18] <Quantum_Ion> maco, wtf
[22:18] <thewanderer1> Quantum_Ion: if you wanna talk about that, feel free to join #debian-offtopic
[22:18] <thewanderer1> it's a good place to chat, really
[22:18] <maco> Quantum_Ion: intel's own 64bit architecute (itanium) is not backwards compatible with ia32, so 32bit OSes cant run on it, which means it never even got out the gate
[22:18] <Quantum_Ion> maco, thanks for the info
[22:19] <sarah32> can we talk on debian-offtopic about children marriage familly problems etc ?
[22:19] <Slart> Zol: this looks like it could provide some info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556272
[22:19] <sarah32> thewanderer1, ???
[22:19] <bob_>  
[22:19] <thewanderer1> sarah32: there are some channel guidelines I believe - that fits better in private conversations or #defocus
[22:19] <voxyn> Hello guys
[22:19] <sarah32> :)
[22:20] <SqRt7744> does anyone know how to go about finding the cause of a hard lockup when I try to suspend? I'm thinking along the lines of remote debugging, but maybe there is a simpler way...
[22:20] <Slart> batbrat: I haven't really found anything.. as far as I can tell the opengl development headers should come from the ATI package
[22:20] <batbrat> Slart: They do come with the ATI package
[22:21] <batbrat> They get installed in /usr/include/ATI/GL/
[22:21] <Slart> batbrat: and I can't really see a reason for them not being used by the sources for glut
[22:21] <batbrat> Well
[22:21] <winterweaver> I need to install some packages, but it fails because I previously installed docky, and now have the ricotz ppa packages conflicting with the default packages. See error here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1553537
[22:21] <batbrat> Glut searches for them in GL/
[22:21] <MIMI> oi
[22:21] <batbrat> Not ATI/GL/ ...
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> SqRt7744, be sure to see if you can find anything at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu for lockup issues like that, search for similar hardware etc.  good luck man.
[22:22] <Slart> batbrat: tried creating symlinks?
[22:22] <batbrat> The problem is irritating. I don't really think I should copy the GL folder out to /usr/include/
[22:22] <batbrat> Hmmm
[22:22] <MIMI> oi
[22:22] <MIMI> oi
[22:22] <Victor_T> godd afternoon every body
[22:22] <batbrat> Do oyu mean symlink to GL in the include directory.
[22:22] <Slart> batbrat: nope.. I would be surprised if you had to do that too.. but it might be a quick way to make things work
[22:22] <Slart> batbrat: yes
[22:22] <SqRt7744> ...no kernel debugging experience whatsoever.
[22:22] <Victor_T> i am having some problems with a printer usung samba
[22:22] <SqRt7744> ZykoticK9: already posted the bug there, others are affected, but I think if I could debug the responsible module myself, I may be able to fix the error. Trouble is I don't really know where to start.
[22:22] <Slart> batbrat: or just copy them.. it's not like those files are huge
[22:23] <Victor_T> yesterday was working fine but today not :S
[22:23] <batbrat> I thought of that. I don't know if that is a safe thing to do though
[22:23] <batbrat> Slart: Have you done this kind of thing before?
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> SqRt7744, nor I - good luck man.
[22:23] <Victor_T> i am using a epson stylus tx-105
[22:23] <headkase314> batbrat, would a symlink be better so that when you install a later version you don't have to recopy the newer headers?
[22:23] <SqRt7744> any kernel debuggers here per chance?  (thanks anyway ZykoticK9 )
[22:24] <Slart> batbrat: I've never had problems with gl headers missing
[22:24] <MIMI> oi
[22:24] <ToStItOs> Where can I get support for usbmodeswitch
[22:24] <batbrat> Slart: Ok
[22:24] <cesc> when I edit a text file with nano and want to save the changes it says is ^O to WriteOut I press CTRL-O but it does nothing.
[22:24] <thewanderer1> !br | MIMI
[22:25] <thewanderer1> cesc, are you working through PuTTY?
[22:25] <batbrat> Slart: Thanks for helping. I'm going to dig around a bit. I'll symlink if I cannot find any alternative in another thirty minutes.
[22:25] <headkase314> cesc, when you press ctrl+o you get at the bottom left a file name.  Press enter to accept the filename then ctrl+x to exit
[22:25] <Slart> batbrat: you're welcome.. I hope you succeed in some way =)
[22:25] <headkase314> cesc, at least that's how nano should work
[22:26] <cesc> headkase314 when I press Ctrl+O nothing happens at the bottom... to enter a filename.
[22:26] <thewanderer1> cesc, does Ctrl+x work for you?
[22:26] <cesc> no nothing happens.
[22:26] <cesc> is bizarre.
[22:27] <ToStItOs> Is there a site or channel for usbmodeswitch
[22:27] <headkase314> cesc, your not on a laptop keyboard and have number keys locked on instead of letters?  Shot in the dark..
[22:27] <cesc> no
[22:27] <aeon-ltd> cesc: also its o not zero
[22:27] <cesc> I have edited sources.list putting deb http://repo.offensive-security.com/dist/bt4 binary/ at the bottom line
[22:27] <headkase314> cesc, do you need a console editor or could you use something friendlier like gedit?
[22:28] <cesc> I want to save the file.
[22:28] <Victor_T> hi
[22:28] <aeon-ltd> cesc: opened using sudo?
[22:28] <cesc> no I typed nano source.list
[22:28] <headkase314> cesc, that's why need a sudo nano
[22:28] <cesc> ok
[22:28] <aeon-ltd> cesc: if this is the apt sources list you need sudo
[22:28] <Victor_T> i try reinstall the app of gnome, samba and the driver and i can not make that the printer make its job
[22:28] <Victor_T> please help :(
[22:29] <Victor_T> i try reinstalling cups to
[22:29] <batbrat> Slart: I'll let you know if I find a good answer.
[22:30] <thewanderer1> is there an option to load Ubuntu to RAM from the liveCD? (actually LiveUSB, making it via unetbootin right now)
[22:30] <laura_> #dbz-the-next-level
[22:30] <m_a_r_k> hi, i need some help upgrading Apache2 on Ubuntu - is this the right channel to ask?
[22:30] <headkase314> cesc, everyone, are you heading into rough territory putting backtrack repositories into xubuntu?
[22:30] <headkase314> cesc, you may end up needing to reinstall if it all goes south.
[22:31] <thewanderer1> cesc, use apt-pinning to avoid breakage.
[22:31] <cesc> someone said to me if I added this repository I would get the drivers for RTL8187 automatically
[22:31] <thewanderer1> cesc, yes, but you need to know what you are doing if you want to do security research
[22:31] <IdleOne> headkase314: not a good idea to mix repos, besides the fact that we don't support backtrack.
[22:31] <thewanderer1> (for the rest, there's Mac...)
[22:32] <cesc> ok I'll remove it
[22:32] <headkase314> cesc, what worries me is that it is a different distribution.  That's woogie territory - see IdleOne just posted
[22:32] <doctorZeus> I've ran into an issue with samba: when I share a folder out, it only shares that folder, so all of the sub folders are not accessible.  I've looked all around trying to find a way to tell samba to propagate/inherit permissions.  Any ran into this?
[22:33] <Victor_T> i am go to ask again
[22:33] <thewanderer1> can I boot Ubuntu to RAM?
[22:34] <doctorZeus> I'm talking a lot of folders..actually looking at writing a chmod script that grants read to sambausers but I find it hard to believe there is not an easy way to tell samba to propagate folder permissions
[22:34] <Victor_T> i am trying to share my epson tx105 from a windows machine
[22:34] <headkase314> cesc, since the adapter works fine with Ubuntu 10.04 (and is such a pain with Xubuntu 10.04) what about installing Ubuntu 10.04 on that machine too?  Or in other words, why do you need Xubuntu over Ubuntu?
[22:34] <thewanderer1> I want to load Ubuntu to RAM so that I can replace the medium (pendrive)
[22:34] <Victor_T> i can not get access from the assistent program
[22:34] <thewanderer1> doctorZeus: you might be doing it wrong
[22:34] <cesc> I need it because that PC is a pentium III with only 128 Mb ram, vga 16 Mb and 20 Gb HD
[22:35] <headkase314> cesc, or install Ubuntu 10.04 then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop as an extra package?
[22:35] <Victor_T> because the button firts not work
[22:35] <headkase314> cesc, Aah, that makes sense.
[22:35] <doctorZeus> thwanderer1: definitely possible, this is my first go at smb.  What I've done is install samba, change the workgroup name in smb.conf, restart the service and then right-click on the folder(s) I want to share.  Problem is, it only shares THAT folder.  There are 72 other folders I want to share that are inside the one I already shared
[22:36] <headkase314> Lucid Lynx has a minimum of 256MB of RAM a search tells me.
[22:36] <cesc> I was said that hitting the TAB key I would be able to scroll through nicknames when answering to someone on IRC.. but it doesn't work..
[22:36] <doctorZeus> even if I wanted to manually share each folder it shares out each individual folder making the network places of windows look crazy
[22:36] <cesc> I use Xchat irc.
[22:36] <thewanderer1> doctorZeus: do you know that it is a permisison problem, or just guessing?
[22:37] <ToStItOs> Is anyone familiar with usbmodeswitch
[22:37] <thewanderer1> doctorZeus: see /etc/samba/smb.conf for the list of shares that it generates
[22:37] <thewanderer1> you're probably better off using that than clicking your way through
[22:37] <doctorZeus> thewanderer1: when I grant each folder permission it works so yes I believe it is a permission problem.. let me see what that file looks like at the moment
[22:37] <thewanderer1> doctorZeus: http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions
[22:37] <cesc> if you want to answer to someone in particular in the channel do you have to write the name every time or there is a better way to do it?
[22:38] <thewanderer1> doctorZeus: that howto includes a section on Default ACL which can be used for permission inheriting
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> !tab > cesc
[22:39] <cesc> oh I see nice feature...
[22:39] <headkase314> cesc, here is a list of low-resource Linux distributions -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Linux  If you're willing to experiment...
[22:39] <jgcampbell300> can anyone here recommend a piece of software that protects my privacy when messing around on the internet
[22:40] <doctorZeus> thwanderer1 I was just about to come back and say looks like I need to go work on setting up ACL..  hopefully I can get it going that way. thanks
[22:40] <cesc> I was hitting the tab key without writting any letter first....
[22:40] <cesc> thanks headkase314
[22:40] <Tonus> jgcampbell300, tor button extension for firefox.
[22:40] <headkase314> cesc, you're welcome.
[22:41] <ToStItOs> I need help with usbmodeswitch????
[22:41] <jgcampbell300> i would like to find something to protect my info when surfing, connecting to p2p, or anything else
[22:41] <sadstoner> peerblock
[22:41] <EvilToaster> Why does apache2 not start at bootup?
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> ToStItOs, is that even in the ubuntu repo?
[22:41] <marcelo> ubuntu español
[22:41] <muelli> !details | ToStItOs
[22:41] <jgcampbell300> i thought peerblock was only for windows
[22:41] <cesc> headkase314, the think is that xubuntu is nice and on this pentium III is still working well.
[22:42] <thewanderer1> jgcampbell300: try tor
[22:42] <marcelo> ubuntu en español???
[22:42] <IdleOne> !es
[22:42] <thewanderer1> jgcampbell300: tor will not help you with p2p, though, unless you want poor bandwidth
[22:42] <Dug__> Can someone tell me how i can add "Gnome Power Manager applet back to my panel please ? :s i acciently removed the battery icon displaying my battery power and it doesnt seem to be in the list for "Add to panel"
[22:43] <jgcampbell300> hmm poor bandwith ... how much does it take away
[22:43] <Dug__> *accidently
[22:43] <ToStItOs> Its not. I have a Cellular franklin u210 usb modem and googling I came upon a site that really is not very explanatory to me
[22:43] <headkase314> cesc, I hope you can get that adapter working so you can stick with Xubuntu - that would be the best outcome.
[22:43] <muelli> Dug__: no such applet exists anymore AFAIK. Run   gnome-power-preferences
[22:44] <ToStItOs> From my understand usbmodeswitch is suppose to turn the modem into a serial so linux can recognize
[22:44] <Dug__> hmm howcome i had the applet just ? :s it was displaying my battery charge in %
[22:45] <headkase314> Dug__, is it an indicator?  Try adding a indicator widget to your panel.
[22:45] <Dug__> ok ill try that
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> Dug__, System / Preferences / Power Management - General tab ;)
[22:45] <ToStItOs> Problem is I have usbmodeswitch installed but the modem is still recognized as a storage device
[22:45] <Dug__> ahh was an indicator Thanks headkase314
[22:45] <Jordan_U> jgcampbell300: Please do not use tor for p2p, you will get terrible speeds but the bandwidth you use will make it harder for people who legitimately need the service.
[22:45] <thewanderer1> ToStItOs: then it means your modem device id is not supported
[22:45] <muelli> ToStItOs: you mihgt need newer rulesets :-/ Try researching which versino ofosbmodeswitch is supposed to support your device.
[22:45] <headkase314> Dug__, you're welcome.
[22:46] <Dug__> although one question if no one minds, i think it was ubuntu 9.10 it used to display the time remaining of my battery life and time remaining for it to fully charge
[22:46] <Dug__> howcome with 10.04 it only displays the charge level in % and no estimated times ?
[22:47] <muelli> Dug__: try. That's one of the deprecations of GNOME IMHO.
[22:47] <cesc> headkase314, I will wait until janisozaur comes back because he helped me to install drivers for realtek RTL8187L when I was having errors compiling it. But I think maybe is the wrong driver and I need RTL8187 only... I was trying to compile it but I got errors too... so janisozaur is not here at the mo.
[22:47] <ToStItOs> thewanderer1, Well whats strange is on the manufacture website same model linux is supported so something is not making sense
[22:47] <Dug__> meaning it isnt supported anymore ?
[22:47] <ubuntu-usr> does anyone know easy tool for remaster ubuntu live cd iso except ubuntu customization kit? i'm don't like web services as reconstructor.com
[22:47] <ToStItOs> muelli, will give that a try
[22:47] <headkase314> cesc, if I knew where to start I'd be right there - I've enough experience configuring general desktop stuff but when it comes to the hardware itself I'm not the best right now :(
[22:48] <Dug__> is there anything i can add to ubuntu 10.04 for estimated battery time left and time till charged ?
[22:48] <cesc> headkase314, janisozaur was really a master dealing with that.
[22:49] <headkase314> cesc, yes.  Don't forget to recap your situation every 5 - 10 minutes: you never know who can come online and also help too!
[22:49] <m_a_r_k> Hi, I'm running Gutsy and can't apply the latest Apache2 updates - all other updates are installed - when I get to apache2-mpm-prefork update, apt complains that apache2.2-common is the wrong version (2.2.4-3ubuntu0.1) and that I need to have 2.2.4-3ubuntu0.2 - but apache2.2-common won't install - so I wind up having 3 packages that won't update: apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2.2-common, and apache2-prefork-dev - anyone know how to fix
[22:49] <m_a_r_k>  this problem?
[22:49] <Dug__> or is there no tool like this anymore ?
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Dug__: I'm pretty sure that the default battery applet will tell you that, though I'm not currently on a laptop so I can't confirm.
[22:50] <Dug__> mine only shows me the charge level in %
[22:50] <Dug__> no estimated remaining time or anything :(
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> Dug__, on my EEE default 10.04 install that's exactly what it shows.  "Laptop battery 1 hour 10 minutes until charged" when i click on the icon
[22:51] <marcelo> saben el canal de ubuntu en español?
[22:51] <cesc> headkase314, yes you are right.
[22:51] <Jordan_U> Dug__: Have you tried right clicking the applet to see if there is way to change the preferences?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> !es | marcelo
[22:51] <EvilToaster> Apache2 does not start at boot. i installed with apt-get install and checked chkconf and scripts. but it still does not start by it self.
[22:51] <Dug__> yeah
[22:51] <headkase314> cesc, ;) Good luck.  Away for five minutes..
[22:51] <Dug__> i click on preferences
[22:51] <Dug__> but no option for displaying remaining time etc
[22:51] <ZykoticK9> Dug__, i actually don't see anything in Preferences that seems to apply
[22:52] <Dug__> me neither :( i cant understand why 9.10 used to display estimated remaining time but 10.04 wont for me (
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> Dug__, i actually think in a while those numbers will start showing up automatically on your system as well (if this is a fresh install)
[22:53] <Dug__> this is a fresh install
[22:53] <Dug__> only installed it yesterday and been running on mains power most of the time
[22:53] <EvilToaster> Apache2 does not start at boot. i installed with apt-get install and checked chkconf and scripts. but it still does not start by it self. im running 10.04.
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> Dug__, i imagine it really depends on the acpi/power management support on the hardware that is the biggest factor.  hope it works for ya.
[22:54] <Dug__> i have to give the "statistics" time to record enough data for it start being able to estimate my remaining time and charge time ?
[22:54] <Dug__> ok
[22:55] <ubuntu-usr> in my ubuntu customization kit i can't open synaptic. i have mounted clean partition with write and read mode as application pointed me. what's wrong?
[22:55] <Andre_Hatje> pessoal, eu instalei o ubuntu studio, formatei o PC e reinstalei o ubuntu 10.04 lts, so que na instalação do studio havia optado por criptografar os arquivos, agora preciso descriptografar a pasta, alguem ai sabe como se faz isso?
[22:56] <ubuntu-usr> i don't see such option as i saw on screenshots http://s6.tinypic.com/2yngmsm.jpg
[22:56] <Dug__> think ill have to use my laptop a bit more an let it run low without the mains power then and hopefully it will soon start to calculate the time remaining
[22:56] <Ober7> EvilToaster: i use a program called rcconf to manage all my start up programs, maybe give it a try? u can always apt-get remove it if it doesnt help
[22:57] <Jordan_U> !pt | Andre_Hatje
[22:59] <opij> is it true that Lubuntu will be an official flavor in 10.10?
[22:59] <ubuntu-usr> moreover when i type in terminal uck-gui, terminal still blank (nothing is logged) and only gui window appears. of course i can step by step further but in the end i can't run synaptic or manage anyhow packages
[23:00] <Dug__> sorry lots of noob questions from me today lol >.< are their any tools or programs i can download to help improve power management when my laptop is running of a battery
[23:00] <IdleOne> What do I need to install to get USB support in VirtualBox?
[23:00] <Dug__> becuase my battery life seems to be shorter than when it was running windows XP
[23:01] <mneptok> IdleOne: VBox guest extensions
[23:01] <opij> anyone?
[23:01] <EvilToaster> Ober7, does not help me much :S
[23:01] <IdleOne> mnemon: thanks, could remember the name
[23:01] <IdleOne> couldn't either
[23:01] <naruto> ya
[23:01] <naruto> first time on IRC chat
[23:01] <mneptok> IdleOne: you can't remember mine, either :P
[23:01] <IdleOne> heh yeah
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> Dug__: i've got nothing to tell you whats taking so much power, but you could just watch what you run and get rid of unneccessary processes
[23:01] <naruto> any c++ programmers here?
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> naruto: ask in #c
[23:02] <EvilToaster> naruto, depends :)
[23:02] <Dug__> ok ill take a look at them
[23:02] <Dug__> thanks for all the help today any guys ;D
[23:02] <opij> is it true that Lubuntu will be an official flavor in 10.10?
[23:02] <Dug__> *anyway
[23:02] <naruto> hmmm ive been bored at work lately
[23:03] <xissburg> C++
[23:03] <naruto> my manager s making me develop stupid forms in PHP and mysql
[23:03] <naruto> i need a break...
[23:03] <Dug__> i need to log now but thanks for the info today guys :)
[23:03] <naruto> so i was wondering if any one want to get started on some interesting projects
[23:03] <jimmyz> anyone help me boot ubuntu from usb key?
[23:03] <erUSUL> !usb
[23:04] <jimmyz> ty
[23:04] <Andre_Hatje> I installed ubuntu studio, formatted the PC and reinstalled ubuntu 10:04 lts, so that the installation of the studio has chosen to encrypt the files, now I need to decrypt the folder, someone here knows how to do it?
[23:04] <dwangoAC> Ubuntu 10.04 - when in X, Shift+Function keys swithces to console instead of Ctrl+Alt+Function; any idea to set it to Ctrl+Alt+Function?
[23:04] <EvilToaster> jimmyz, lock at unetbootin
[23:04] <xissburg> ^
[23:04] <weez> does anyone know anything about seetin up a mailing list/newsletter?
[23:05] <naruto> any one played around with bazaar yet?
[23:05] <EvilToaster> Is it only me having problems with apache2 at boot? in 10.04? i can start it later but it never start at boot :S
[23:05] <IdleOne> mneptok: you recommend ose or  non free version?
[23:05] <jimmyz> i am trying pendrive linux EvilToaster
[23:06] <opij> is it true that Lubuntu will be an official flavor in 10.10?
[23:06] <xissburg> jimmyz: I successfully booted from pendrinve using unetbooting...pretty simple
[23:06] <aeon-ltd> opij: does it matter?
[23:06] <EvilToaster> jimmyz, ah okey
[23:06] <opij> aeon-ltd, _you_ don't matter.... unless you're staff.
[23:07] <sprockets2000> anyone played sc2 on ubuntu 64?
[23:07] <Oer> !theme | Oer
[23:07] <jimmyz> what file does teh bios look for on the usb key to boot from?
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> opij: dude i was just saying that nothing is different except decision on pkgs
[23:07] <opij> aeon-ltd, buzz off
[23:08] <aeon-ltd> opij: you be trollin'?
[23:08] <erUSUL> jimmyz: bios does not read any file
[23:08] <opij> does anyone know the answer to my question?
[23:08] <weez> does anyone have experience making an email newsletter?
[23:09] <jimmyz> oh? i'm just trying to figure if pendrivelinux successfully created a bootable key
[23:09] <jimmyz> or if something is wrong in my bios settings
[23:09] <mneptok> opij: please be polite
[23:09] <sprockets2000> just use unetbootin
[23:09] <sprockets2000> and see if it works
[23:09] <Ober7> < mneptok> opij: please be polite
[23:09] <opij> mneptok, sorry i was a little rude
[23:10] <opij> aeon-ltd, sorry i just have been trolled a lot lately
[23:10] <aeon-ltd> opij: its cool. :)
[23:11] <opij> aeon-ltd, the reason it matter's is because the ops will boot you from the IRC channels and  Forums unless its an official release
[23:11] <opij> matters*
[23:11] <mneptok> opij: not true. although you might get directed to the specific channel if the questions become too detailed.
[23:11] <AlbertoP> uhm?
[23:12] <opij> mnemon, are you an op?
[23:12] <AlbertoP> sorry, wrong channel :(
[23:12] <mneptok> opij: Mint, Crunchbang, and other derivatives are not supported in #u, but different flavors of Ubuntu can be.
[23:12] <mneptok> opij: nope :P
[23:13] <opij> mnemon, I've been told to go to another channel unless it comes on an official canonical live cd
[23:13] <dsnyders> Hi all!  When I log in there is a background picture.  Where is that stored?
[23:14] <mneptok> opij: you may be asked, depending on the traffic. and ignoring op requests, regardless of what you use, is going to get you banned.
[23:14] <mneptok> opij: and if theonly thing #u supported was officially supported canonical stuff, Xubuntu would not be supported here.
[23:15] <mneptok> (Canonical does not provide commercial support for Xubuntu)
[23:15] <doctorZeus> I just hit the X to (what I thought was) cancel a file "move", and the files that did move are no longer in the original folder and theres no trace of it at the source destination
[23:15] <doctorZeus> is that expected behavior?
[23:15] <So_Confused> Hello room... Does anyone here know how to start/have an encrypted chat using Pidgin? I dl'd the otr Plugin from Software Center, but see no options to start one.
[23:16] <opij> mneptok, sorry i meant that it has to be an official derivative of ubuntu
[23:16] <opij> not canonical
[23:17] <opij> by the way mneptok, canonical does support xubuntu
[23:17] <Jordan_U> opij: If it uses only official Ubuntu repositories (including community supported universe), which as far as I know lubuntu does, then it can be supported here. But there may be better channels to ask in like #lubuntu.
[23:18] <WMP> hi, why all packages php5-fpm use old config?
[23:18] <opij> Jordan_U, are you an op?
[23:18] <Jordan_U> opij: No.
[23:18] <IdleOne> opij: what does being an op have to do with anything?
[23:19] <IdleOne> We are all equal here, helping and asking for help
[23:19] <DasEi> could someone do an nmap -A on 77.8.166.98  (my host)  and pastebin the output ?
[23:19] <opij> IdleOne, because i've been told WAAAY too many times untrue things by people that dont know what they're talking about
[23:19] <Jordan_U> opij: xubuntu-desktop is in universe rather than main, which normally means that it is not supported by Canonical.
[23:20] <IdleOne> opij: if and when lubuntu becomes an official flavor is up to Canonical, you can ask in #lubuntu if they have more info on that
[23:20] <opij> Jordan_U, check the bottom of http://www.xubuntu.org/
[23:21] <edugonch> Hello, do you know a good ftp client that allows me share files between 2 servers and not the localhost?
[23:21] <edugonch> thanks
[23:21] <opij> oh i see
[23:21] <Jordan_U> opij: Are you refering to "© 2008 Canonical Ltd. Xubuntu and Canonical are registered trademarks of Canonical Ltd." ? That's far from a statement that they provide commercial support services.
[23:22] <opij> it is not supported by canonical
[23:22] <opij> thats old
[23:22] <opij> didnt notice the 2008
[23:22] <dwangoAC> edugonch: I can't think of a client that can do that, actually...  Interesting problem.
[23:22] <edugonch> Nautilus does, but it is soooooooooooo slowwwwww
[23:22] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Perhaps you could hack together a script to do what you wanted, maybe using named pipes... hmm
[23:22] <edugonch> 139 hours
[23:22] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Yeah, it's slow because it's going server -> client -> server
[23:23] <erUSUL> edugonch: gui ? command line ?
[23:23] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Now that I say that, there's no way to do what you want unless you control one of the servers
[23:23] <opij> Jordan_U, they are /claiming/ that it will be official in #lubuntu, but I want to hear from an op whether it's true or not. I cant seem to find anything on google.
[23:23] <dwangoAC> edugonch: I'm assuming you want to go from one server to another directly which means you'd have to have the ability to log in to one server, act as a client, and upload the file to the other from there
, GUI will be better
[23:24] <IdleOne> opij: the ops team handles IRC issues. They have nothing to do with Canonical
[23:24] <erUSUL> dwangoAC: edugonch there are servers that support server to server transfer dunno if that is the case ...
[23:24] <erUSUL> edugonch: filezilla; gftp
[23:24] <opij> IdleOne, then how do they know when to kick someone out when someone isn't talking about a canonical supported distro?
[23:24] <dsnyders> Hi all!  When I log in there is a background picture.  Where is that stored?  I want to use it for my desktop.
; yes, I'm changing server, so I don't see the necesity of get the files to my computer and then upload them again
[23:24] <IdleOne> opij: you mean like now?
[23:25] <edugonch> filezilla does not support multiple servers
[23:25] <IdleOne> opij: see !guidelines and !coc for what the ops base the decision to ban on
[23:25] <opij> IdleOne, im trying to find out if it's _Going_ to be supported
[23:25] <IdleOne> opij: I am telling you WE don't know
[23:25] <opij> IdleOne, who is "WE"
[23:25] <bobby0> Enter text here...any nice girl wnt to chat
[23:26] <maco> bobby0: wrong plac
[23:26] <maco> *place
[23:26] <IdleOne> everybody in here who does not work for Canonical
[23:26] <paulmain> I just installed lucid, and have no sound.  It worked in Gutsy.  Also, I'm stuck at a resolution of 800x600.  ANyone?
[23:26] <dwangoAC> edugonch: So it sounds like you have access to one of the FTP servers at the very least, right?
[23:26] <maco> bobby0: this channel is for ubuntu tech support, not picking up dates
[23:26] <bobby0> hi maco
[23:26] <dwangoAC> edugonch: If so, do you have to use FTP protocol?  Perhaps another protocol would be better suited for what you're trying to do.
[23:26] <Jordan_U> opij: Like I stated before, what Canonical supports and what the community (i.e. this channel) support are not the same.
[23:26] <edugonch> I have access to both
[23:26] <dwangoAC> maco: That... was very funny. :)
[23:26] <kita4ever> Hello
[23:27] <maco> dwangoAC: happens far too often
[23:27] <maco> dwangoAC: thats the second ive seen today
[23:27] <edugonch> Well, I'll try, and do you know a good and fancy command line client?
[23:27] <opij> Jordan_U, I'm just sick of ops asking me to shut up about distros that have tiny channels
[23:27] <dwangoAC> maco: Still, picking up dates? :)
[23:27] <kita4ever> Just use default
[23:27] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Well, since you have access to both servers there are a lot of options available -
[23:28] <Autoclesis> anyone sync samsa clip with rhythmbox?
[23:28] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Are both servers running Ubuntu (or at least Linux)?
[23:28] <IdleOne> opij: can you please move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic as it is not  Ubuntu tech support related.
[23:28] <edugonch> Yes, using CentOs
[23:29] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Ugh - RPM based (such a dirty thing to say here :).  OK, so you're using CentOS on both servers?
[23:29] <dwangoAC> edugonch: And if I understand you correctly, your client is Ubuntu, correct?
[23:29] <erUSUL> edugonch: good and fancy command line client --> lftp ( scriptable )
[23:29] <edugonch> yes
[23:29] <Autoclesis> rhythmbox won't show songs to import
[23:29] <dwangoAC> edugonch: And finally, you want to use a GUI to move the files around, right?
[23:30] <edugonch> Yes
[23:30] <dwangoAC> edugonch: So here's a very creative solution to your problem that lets you do this with a GUI - it's a little .. er.. controversial :)
[23:30] <dwangoAC> edugonch: First, on one of your CentOS servers install neatx - http://code.google.com/p/neatx/
[23:31] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Then on your Ubuntu client install the NX Client, availabe at http://www.nomachine.com
[23:31] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Then use the NX client to conenct to the CentOS server to get full access to its graphical GUI
[23:31] <dwangoAC> edugonch: From there, use whatever GUI FTP client you like to upload files to the second server
[23:32] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Like I say, it's a bit unorthodox but it allows you to fully access the server and do a server to server copy without the file being sent through your Ubuntu client.
[23:32] <edugonch> ummmm, intersting, I'll try it, but I don't know if my server have GUI installed
[23:32] <dwangoAC> edugonch: You don't have to use neatx as there's a fully featured .RPM file for CentOS on http://www.nomachine.com's website but I prefer to use open source when I can.
[23:32] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Well, you can always install a desktop environment :)
[23:33] <dwangoAC> edugonch: But, installing a GUI on an RPM distro isn't something I can help you with
[23:33] <edugonch> Yes, at least the basic
[23:33] <dwangoAC> edugonch: Did all of that make sense?  I know it wasn't at all the direction you were thinking about going but it'd definitely work
[23:34] <dwangoAC> Question of my own, Ubuntu 10.04 - when in X, Shift+Function keys swithces to console instead of Ctrl+Alt+Function; any idea to set it to Ctrl+Alt+Function?
[23:34] <dwangoAC> Google is a wreck when looking for related keywords on that topic. :)
[23:35] <Ober7> dwangoAC: maybe i havent been following but why not just fxp?
[23:36] <dwangoAC> Ober7: He wants to do this through a GUI
, it is a good idea, I'll try it
[23:37] <dwangoAC> Ober7: Plus his servers are both CentOS, so if he wants to do that he probably wants to ask in a different channel. :)
[23:37] <Ober7> dwangoAC: i am sure there are gui ftp cients supporting fxp
[23:37] <augdawg> how can i get the mail daemon to run in the background for evolution?
[23:37] <ramontayag> how do you take a screenshot with the right-click menu open?
[23:37] <Ober7> its the ftp servers im worried about
[23:38] <dwangoAC> Ober7: You're right, it looks like a couple of clients do now that I look but I have no idea how he'd configure CentOS's FTP server to do that
[23:38] <Ober7> pureftpd does it probably vsftpd
[23:39] <aeon-ltd> ramontayag: scrot -d 3 (in terminal) or prtsc on keyboard
[23:39] <dwangoAC> ramontayag: Interesting - you're right, you can't do it by pressing alt+printscreen with the right-click menu open
[23:39] <dsnyders> Hi all!  When I log in there is a background picture.  Where is that stored?  I want to use it for my desktop.
[23:39] <dwangoAC> ramontayag: However, if you open the Take Screenshot app you can set a delay and then take the screenshot
[23:39] <Rabbitbunny> Is there a 'gksudo nautalus' type command I can run?
[23:39] <ramontayag> dwangoAC, a delay? oh cool let me try that
[23:40] <duli> what package provides Crypt_Blowfish (pear php)?
[23:40] <ramontayag> dwangoAC, thanks it worked!
[23:40] <dwangoAC> ramontayag: I do that kind of delayed screenshot in beta testing all the time but I've never had the right-click menu problem before :)
[23:40] <dwangoAC> ramontayag: Glad I could help
[23:43] <bandar> hi
[23:43] <Rabbitbunny> Is there a 'gksudo nautalus' type command I can run?
[23:43] <maco> Rabbitbunny: yep, but it helps to spell nautilus right ;-)
[23:44] <erUSUL> Rabbitbunny: what are you tryin to do ?
[23:45] <Rabbitbunny> maco: oh. Well, that explains it. Thanks.
[23:45] <Rabbitbunny> erUSUL: bad things. thing which may break my warranty.
[23:46] <erUSUL> Rabbitbunny: i knew it ;P handle with care
[23:47] <glassresistor> im about to move an install of ubuntu from a ssd with ext2 to a hhd with ext4, can i boot from a cd and use cp with options to copy hidden files ect  and have it work
[23:48] <glassresistor> id probably just use ddrescue but i want to change the file system
[23:48]  * winexmms_ is listening to: .chicagoisthebirthplace - ANALOG DIALOG - Detroit Debris - (0:22/1:47)
[23:48] <cesc> which app do you guys use to subscribe to podcasts?
[23:48] <erUSUL> glassresistor: should work; maybe pax or tar are faster? also you will have to reinstal grub
[23:48] <aeon-ltd> cesc: i hear miro is quite good
[23:48] <Jordan_U> glassresistor: You can do an in place "upgrade" from ext2 to ext3/4.
[23:48] <erUSUL> glassresistor: and tweak /etc/fstab to match the new uuid's
[23:49] <erUSUL> winexmms_: disable that script here please
[23:49] <cesc> thanks aeon-ltd
[23:49] <Jordan_U> glassresistor: The only downside is that you will only be using ext4 features like extents with newly written files (ext3 is just ext2+journaling so you'll get all of ext3's "features" immediately).
[23:49] <glassresistor> erUSUL: how would i install just grub?
[23:50] <erUSUL> glassresistor: use the instruction on how to recover grub after installing windows
[23:50] <erUSUL> !grub2
[23:51] <glassresistor> erUSUL: thanks
[23:52] <dsnyders> Hi all!  When I log in there is a background picture.  Where is that stored?  I want to use it for my desktop.
[23:52] <glassresistor> changing the fstab file from a livecd should work
[23:52] <erUSUL> glassresistor: yes
[23:52] <glassresistor> great never bootstraped anything but gentoo b4
[23:52] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: you mean gdm the login manager?#
[23:53] <uman> what is the difference between the packages flashplugin, flashplugin-installer, and flashplugin-nonfree?
[23:53] <dsnyders> aeon-ltd, Yes, I believe so.
[23:53] <uman> I don't care about software freedom issues; I just want flash to work in Firefox as stably and reliably as possible; which should I install?
[23:53] <uman> by the way, I am using 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04
[23:54] <glassresistor> uman: i don't think the are different actually
[23:54] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: look in /usr/share/ or /usr/share/gdm, i think the gdm themes are stored there
[23:55] <dsnyders> aeon-ltd, I've been looking, but I do not know what the file is called.  There are 300+ folders in /usr/share and /usr/share/gdm doesn't seem to have any pictures in it.
[23:56] <Quaxir_> Does anyone know bandwith meter for linux which would work in console?
[23:56] <muellisoft> Quaxir: maybe ntop.
[23:56] <trism> dsnyders: /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png is probably the background you mean, which is oddly not a png
[23:56] <glassresistor> Quaxir: bwn-ng
[23:56] <glassresistor> its in apt
[23:56] <[thor]> Quaxir: byobu contains a bandwidth meter
[23:56] <glassresistor> [thor]: really? were
[23:56] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: look in /usr/share/gdm/themes
[23:57] <[thor]> glassresistor: one of the options./. errr... checking
[23:57] <Snakker> Any Arch Linux users here?
[23:57] <aeon-ltd> Snakker: yeah
[23:57] <erUSUL> Snakker: wrong channel ?
[23:57] <Quaxir> ookkey, thanks for you 3 :D. Now I just should find out which one is best :P
[23:57] <Snakker> Nah, not wrong channel.
[23:57] <glassresistor> [thor]: whats the cnrl-a command for menu?
[23:57] <Snakker> I know where the #archlinux channel is...it's just I couldn't really find any help there. :/
[23:58] <[thor]> glassresistor: F9 --> Status Notifications --> enbable "network"
[23:58] <utopia> hey
[23:58] <dsnyders> trism, good call.  That's what I was looking for.  /usr/share/backgrounds/mistymorning.jpg
[23:58] <glassresistor> [thor]: i have the function keys turned off cause they class with htop
[23:58] <glassresistor> [thor]: there is also a screen stye command buti  forgot the key
[23:58] <[thor]> glass resistor: dunno the ctrl command, sorry
[23:59] <Quaxir> glassresistor, did you mean bwm-ng? (there's no bwn-ng in apt :S)
[23:59] <dsnyders> aeon-ltd, There is no /usr/share/gdm/themes folder.   No worries though, trism pointed me  /usr/share/backgrounds
[23:59] <glassresistor> Quaxir: yeah opps crappy keyboard
[23:59] <raven> which files to change the ip-adress?
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: 'kay