[01:10]  * MengXingHun is away: ^^^今天玩Linux游戏，暂不接客^^^^.....
[07:08] <edakiri> How can I create PNGs with both transparency ("alpha (A)" channel) and colors stored where it is completely transparent?  How can I view such an image and see its transparency and the color where it is transparent?
[07:10] <edakiri> or what software is capable of that?
[07:11] <holstein> hey edakiri
[07:12]  * holstein is an audio guy
[07:12] <holstein> the Gimp doesnt do it for you?
[07:16] <edakiri> as far as I know, it can not view them, so I can also not know whether they are made correctly.  Where it is completely transparent, it shows only the transparency not the color.
[07:16] <edakiri> Maybe there is a conversion I could do with GIMP, but I do not know it.
[07:28] <holstein> edakiri: i would think you would need to use GIMP's file format to get started
[07:28] <holstein> then export to png or whatever
[07:54] <edakiri> holstein: Then if I only have the PNG, how can I see the colors again in the transparent areas?
[07:55] <holstein> i know there are some graphics guys that come in here from time to time
[07:55] <edakiri> It is possible with PNG to have a pixel fully transparent and yet with full color information, but how do I see it?
[07:55] <holstein> i think you might want to ask in a gimp channel
[07:55] <edakiri> good idea
[07:55] <holstein> i mostly just resize a jpeg here and there
[09:13] <lenz> hail folks!!
[09:14] <lenz> pls help
[09:15] <lenz> i use m-audio audiophile 192 soundcard
[09:15] <lenz> but can't adjust the volumes of capture, can't hear sound from capture
[09:17] <lenz> pls advise something
[09:22] <edakiri> lenz: you must find out what drivers you should use. most people use ALSA there is also OSS.  see whether the driver is loaded with lsmod. look in the kernel messages for messages from the driver.  you can use dmesg for that
[09:23] <edakiri> #ALSA and #OSS exist
[09:24] <lenz> yep, i hawe both installed
[09:25] <lenz> alsa and oss
[09:25] <lenz> #alsa is dead
[09:25] <lenz> everyone sleepeng there
[09:26] <lenz> snd_ice1724            95837  6
[09:26] <lenz> snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx      2547  1 snd_ice1724
[09:31] <edakiri> lenz: output is working?
[09:32] <edakiri> does m-audio advertise linux support?
[09:33] <lenz> yep, i hear sound
[09:33] <lenz> and it records my guitar
[09:34] <lenz> but in alsa mixer i cant adjust volume of capture
[09:34] <lenz> only pcm volume can adjust
[09:35] <lenz> -audiu is only for win and mac :(
[09:35] <lenz> no official linux support
[09:41] <edakiri> look in the linux documentation for sysctl parameters to the driver
[09:42] <edakiri> maybe you can select channels for alsa.  different boards use different features of the chip.  sometimes not all features of a chip are used
[09:42] <edakiri> by the board
[09:45] <lenz> thnx edakiri! will try now
[09:47] <zus> how do i fix missing plaugins in  chrome?  i cant watch any videos
[09:48] <edakiri> zus: wrong channel
[09:49] <zus> edakiri,  yeah, im sorry./
[09:50] <zus> i think the KXStudio  chopped my ubuntustudio and ubuntu all up.
[18:30] <phatd> Hi everyone, i've a question - I've installed UbuntuStudio 10.04 onto a virtual machine (Parallels Desktop) but I can seem to get my root priveliges for some reason and i know that my password is correct cos i can log into the system, so i was wandering whether you could explain to me what i may have done wrong (sorry for the long text :) )
[18:31] <holstein> hey phatd
[18:31] <holstein> what are you trying to do?
[18:31] <holstein> log in as su?
[18:32] <holstein> are you using the sudo command?
[18:32] <phatd> Hi holstein, yes im trying to install the guest additions
[18:32] <phatd> whith the sudo command
[18:32] <phatd> but it says that the comand was not found.....:(
[18:33] <holstein> phatd: run in a terminal
[18:33] <holstein> sudo fdisk -l
[18:33] <holstein> and tell me if you get output
[18:33] <phatd> ok
[18:33] <holstein> then we'll know that sudo is working
[18:33] <holstein> guest additions is 'fiddly'
[18:34] <holstein> i usually open the terminal
[18:34] <holstein> type sudo
[18:34] <holstein> and then drag the install.sh over into the terminal
[18:34] <holstein> vinstall.sh?
[18:34] <holstein> whatever its called
[18:34]  * holstein forgets
[18:35] <holstein> should look like
[18:35] <phatd> yeah, but im running mine at the moment from my laptop.....and its slow as hell......
[18:35] <phatd> 1px/hour :)))
[18:35] <holstein> sudo path/to/guestboxaddtions/install.sh
[18:35] <holstein> phatd: drag
[18:36] <phatd> i go cd /home/phatd/Parallels then sudo ./install
[18:36] <holstein> hopefully the virtual drivers help that
[18:36] <phatd> it does not have an sh postfix
[18:36] <holstein> phatd: when you run sudo fdisk -l
[18:36] <holstein> did you see some output?
[18:37] <holstein> i would try running
[18:37] <phatd> is that a one or an L i cant tell...
[18:37] <holstein> sudo /home/phatd/Parallels/install
[18:37] <holstein> phatd: OH yeah
[18:38] <holstein> i was thinking virtualbox additions
[18:38] <holstein> phatd: thats a lower case L
[18:38] <phatd> well sudo does work...
[18:38] <holstein> for 'list
[18:38] <holstein> phatd: yeah, its a problem with that install script
[18:38] <phatd> Vbox crashes my computer for some reason
[18:38] <holstein> or just the way your linking to it in the terminal
[18:38] <holstein> to try and run it
[18:38] <holstein> that would give you a 'command not found'
[18:39] <phatd> but the thing is that it installs on Ubuntu but doesnt in the studio...
[18:39] <holstein> its not the sudo command that is not found
[18:39] <holstein> it the 'install' command
[18:39] <phatd> yeah, it gives command not found
[18:39] <holstein> phatd: you can use tab complete
[18:39] <holstein> in the terminal
[18:39] <holstein> you just start typing some of the letters
[18:39] <holstein> and hit tab
[18:39] <holstein> and it auto-completes
[18:39] <phatd> ok....ill try now
[18:40] <holstein> then you know what you are trying to run is actually there
[18:40] <holstein> but that click and drag method is not bad either
[18:41] <phatd> it types in ./installer/
[18:41] <holstein> phatd: hmmm
[18:41] <holstein> you might want to poke around in there
[18:41] <holstein> cd /home/you/Parralles/whatever
[18:41] <holstein> and ls
[18:41] <holstein> to see what is in there
[18:41] <holstein> OR fire up nautilus file manager
[18:42] <holstein> and just confirm just where the hell the installer is
[18:42] <holstein> and what it is called
[18:42] <holstein> if your reading a README
[18:42] <holstein> it could be old
[18:42] <phatd> i can see the folders there but they dont have linux executables there....
[18:42] <holstein> interesting
[18:43] <holstein> you dont see any 'install' or 'installer' ?
[18:43] <phatd> i see both...
[18:43] <holstein> lol
[18:43] <phatd> install and installer
[18:43] <holstein> i wish i knew more about parallels
[18:43] <phatd> but they are useless
[18:43] <holstein> ive only done this in virtual box
[18:44] <holstein> and i hate to steer you blindly in the wrong direction
[18:44] <phatd> i wish vbox wouldn't crash my comp
[18:44] <holstein> snow leapard?
[18:44] <phatd> you wish
[18:44] <phatd> Wind0ze 7
[18:44] <holstein> OH
[18:45] <holstein> i havent had the opportunity to mess around with win7 yet
[18:45]  * holstein tried to be diplomatic ;)
[18:45] <phatd> i would use linux but im farily new to it...
[18:45] <phatd> btw where r u from?
[18:45] <holstein> northcarolina
[18:46] <holstein> phatd: you can run it in WUBI
[18:46] <holstein> you can get the normal ubuntu disc
[18:46] <holstein> the LIVE cd
[18:46] <phatd> hmmm.....try to guess where im from :)
[18:46] <holstein> and install that as a WUBI install
[18:46] <holstein> thats a decent way to start
[18:46] <phatd> the wubi installs on actual hardware
[18:46] <holstein> there is a .exe on the disc
[18:46] <holstein> phatd: basically
[18:46] <holstein> BUT you can uninstall it like a program
[18:47] <phatd> [21:46:09]  < phatd> hmmm.....try to guess where im from :)
[18:47] <holstein> its kinda like a normal install
[18:47] <holstein> phatd: hmmm
[18:47] <phatd> its some where in europe and aisa :)
[18:48] <holstein> GMT +3
[18:48] <phatd> Yes :)
[18:48] <holstein> not sure
[18:48] <holstein> other than that :)
[18:48] <phatd> Saint-Petersburg
[18:48] <phatd> :)))
[18:48] <holstein> AH
[18:49] <phatd> Thats why i run wind0ze 7, because nobody gives a damn about copyrights :)))
[18:49] <holstein> OH, you got a hacked version or something
[18:49] <holstein> yeah, i use to have a cracked XP way back
[18:49] <holstein> then i bought it
[18:50] <holstein> then i started using linux
[18:50] <phatd> Yeah, but it works fine, windoze update works...:)))
[18:50] <holstein> i recently purchased snow leopard too
[18:50] <phatd> Linux is cooler that any other OS
[18:50] <holstein> only 30 US
[18:50]  * holstein is not sure how cool it is
[18:50] <holstein> but windows is a drag
[18:50] <phatd> Thats a single license copy?
[18:50] <holstein> its a security risk out of the box
[18:51] <holstein> im over it
[18:51] <holstein> phatd: AFAIK is a single license
[18:51] <holstein> i havent tried it on more than one box
[18:51] <phatd> 30 usd in our curency is like 900 rubles
[18:51] <holstein> i got a macbook somebody gave me
[18:51] <holstein> needed some repair
[18:51] <phatd> :)
[18:52] <holstein> i think you gota have 120US to get the cheap win7
[18:52] <holstein> and im not stealing anything anymore
[18:52] <holstein> much less bad software
[18:52] <phatd> i'v the Ultimate + Office 2010 + Adobe Master CXollection CS5 = 0.00 usd :))))
[18:52] <holstein> stealing windows is like hotwiring a scooter
[18:53] <phatd> But you probably have the money to pay for all this.....and i'm just a student :(
[18:53] <holstein> ubuntu is free
[18:53] <holstein> i give my time here and there
[18:53] <phatd> I know, i use the russian version of Linux Mint
[18:54] <holstein> AH
[18:54] <holstein> yeah, mint is cool
[18:54] <phatd> :)))
[18:54] <holstein> you can install the ubuntustudio stuff in there
[18:54] <phatd> Yeah, but it lags sometimes...
[18:54] <holstein> phatd: are you dual booting mint and win7?
[18:54] <holstein> phatd: what lags?
[18:55] <phatd> I'm triple booting :))) Win 7 Win XP and Mint, and that lags are mainly cos of the russification process
[18:55] <holstein> phatd: maybe not
[18:55] <holstein> lags in audio?
[18:55] <holstein> you got a realtime kernel?
[18:55] <phatd> yeah, sometimes
[18:55] <holstein> do you use JACK?
[18:56] <holstein> if you mean just flash playback
[18:56] <holstein> and normal audio
[18:56] <phatd> i use the simple preinstalled soft that come with mint......i dont install much more...
[18:56] <holstein> that can happen on a lot of systems
[18:56] <holstein> well, if you want, just search ubuntustudio in synaptic
[18:56] <holstein> and you should see the meta packages
[18:57] <holstein> i would not install them all in mint
[18:57] <phatd> i know about that....but it takes to much time to load....
[18:57] <holstein> just the *-audio *-audio-plugins
[18:57] <holstein> phatd: load?
[18:57] <holstein> or install?
[18:57] <phatd> download
[18:57] <phatd> :)
[18:57] <holstein> it can
[18:57] <holstein> phatd: you dont have to get the meta packages
[18:57] <holstein> just get the stuff you need
[18:58] <phatd> Like LMMS???
[18:58] <holstein> sure
[18:59] <phatd> what is i were to search synaptics for parallels vm soft??? do you think that would work??
[18:59] <holstein> LMMS is fiddly too though
[18:59] <holstein> phatd: try it
[18:59] <phatd> I use FL Studio :)
[18:59] <holstein> i dont think there is anything in the repo for parallels offically
[18:59] <holstein> but i have not checked
[19:00] <phatd> well if its not there i can check parallels' site
[19:01] <holstein> you should look around for an ubuntu vitrual image too
[19:01] <holstein> i know there are some for virtual box and VM ware
[19:01] <holstein> ready to go disk images
[19:01] <holstein> but you would have to install the studio packages ;)
[19:01] <holstein> phatd: OH
[19:01] <holstein> i got it
[19:01] <holstein> in your mint install
[19:02] <holstein> you tell synaptic to use the ubuntustudio CD as a repo
[19:02] <phatd> type slower :) my brain is allready gone to sleep....:)))))))
[19:03] <holstein> coffee is just kickin in for me :)
[19:03] <phatd> i had coffee about an hour ago...it doesnt work for me :(
[19:06] <phatd> Ok, im p***ed off, ima gonna install vbox (the Sun version) and try to reinstall it, if anythin happens i come back
[19:06] <phatd> C Ya Later :)
[19:06] <holstein> good luck
[19:06] <phatd> THX