[18:21] <AndyGraybeal> how do i set it so the screen doesn't lock after 5 minutes of idle time without having all my users login and change it manually.  is there a way i can do it from the command line without having them be around?
[18:22] <alkisg> I answered in #ltsp
[18:45] <AndyGraybeal> thank you
[20:12] <dgroos1> Hi
[20:12] <dgroos1> I'm trying to get the FreeNX server on my server.
[20:12] <dgroos1> I followed the straightforward directions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[20:13] <dgroos1> but when I got to starting it: "sudo /etc/init.d/freenx-server start" as per the directions I got this:
[20:15] <dgroos1> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[20:15] <dgroos1> utility, e.g. service freenx-server start
[20:15] <alkisg> That's just a warning, it shouldn't affect anythin
[20:15] <alkisg> g
[20:15] <alkisg> But neatx is easier to install, if you don't have some specific reason to prefer freenx...
[20:16] <alkisg> Anyway, since you already came that far, what does this tell you? sudo invoke-rc.d freenx-server status
[20:16] <dgroos1> Hard to know when things are a warning and when a problem...  I'll try...
[20:18] <dgroos1> ... failed: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/479016/
[20:19] <alkisg> Freenx was converted to upstart? nice...
[20:19] <alkisg> Try: sudo status freenx-server
[20:19] <dgroos1> status: Unknown job: freenx-server
[20:20] <dgroos1> I also tried rebooting...
[20:20] <alkisg> dpkg -L freenx-server | grep init
[20:20] <alkisg> What does this tell you?
[20:20] <dgroos1> dpkg -L freenx-server | grep init
[20:21] <dgroos1> oops--wrong place :D
[20:21] <alkisg> :)
[20:22] <dgroos1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/479017/
[20:22] <dgroos1> and the "init" part is in red on each line...
[20:23] <alkisg> What about this: sudo start freenx-server
[20:25] <dgroos1>  Unknown job: freenx-server
[20:26] <alkisg> Hmmm that doesn't sound good. I haven't tried installing freenx to lucid yet, but according to your dpkg -L, that should work...
[20:30] <dgroos1> alkisg: arrrg!  looks like I spaced a step in the install directions--I'll do and get back...
[20:30] <alkisg> (installing neatx is just 2 commands with no configuration at all, that's why i prefer it :))
[20:35] <dgroos1> I'm feeling that right now...
[20:36] <dgroos1> I tried to do the 'missed step': sudo /usr/lib/nx/nxsetup --install
[20:37] <dgroos1> and got the message 'No such file or directory'. So I went and checked it out, sure enough, nothing by that name though a number of 'nx...' objects.
[20:54] <alkisg> dgroos1: no idea, as I said I haven't tried installing freenx on lucid, but I have a few minutes for vnc-based help if you want...
[21:25] <dgroos1> alkisg: just got back and saw your offer.  Thanks, I've got some more things to try--seems like another person had a bad install of the sw and reinstalled and it worked.  I'll let you know.
[21:49] <dgroos1> alkisg: sure enough, the problem was a missing script file in the package.  I'll note that on the wiki page as well as where to download it.
[21:49] <alkisg> Eew... better file a bug report about this
[22:16] <dgroos1> NX is working great!  I love it.  Filed bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/freenx-server/+bug/618906 and improved the ubuntu wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[22:22] <alkisg> Which script was missing?
[22:25] <alkisg> nm - i just read the bug report :)
[22:29] <dgroos1> alkisg: now on to installing your uber italc script :)
[22:29] <alkisg> Hmm? italc?
[22:29]  * alkisg stopped using italc about a year ago...
[22:29] <dgroos1> your italc replacement...
[22:30] <dgroos1> the one you gave me instructions to install on a june 16 list-serve post...
[22:30] <alkisg> Ah. Nice, if you want any help ping me
[22:31] <dgroos1> I read these directions: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ts.sch.gr-ppa-lucid.list\ /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.d BUT...
[22:31] <dgroos1> there was a line break and didn't know what the \ / was :)
[22:31] <dgroos1> help?
[22:31] <alkisg> That \ shouldn't be there
[22:32] <dgroos1> 'k
[22:32] <dgroos1> thanks
[22:33] <alkisg> Btw, we have some programs in our ppa - you'll get automatic updates for them. E.g. we have neatx in that ppa (so there was no need to add the freenx repository, just an apt-get install neatx-server would be enough), some fixes for ltsp etc
[22:34] <dgroos1> alas... I show have installed your scripts *before* adding nx...
[22:35] <alkisg> Ah now i got what the \ was, it's used when a command breaks on 2 lines
[22:35] <alkisg> so e.g. this: echo \
[22:35] <alkisg> hi
[22:35] <alkisg> is the same as: echo hi
[22:36] <dgroos1> programming...
[22:39] <dgroos1> OK upon installing the scripts I got this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/479086/ should I be concerned?
[22:40] <alkisg> Yes - we're using dnsmasq instead of dhcp3-server
[22:41] <alkisg> To make ltsp installation easier (e.g. use only 1 nic instead of 2, no need for NATting etc) and to use the dhcp server of the router
[22:42] <alkisg> You have an already working ltsp setup, right?
[22:44] <dgroos1> Yes, 64 bit server, 32 bit clients, 2 nics (actually, I've got 3 nics, hope to bind the two giga nics to be 1 as this is for 40 clients or so).
[22:44] <alkisg> Are they pci-e nics or just pci nics?
[22:45] <dgroos1> not sure...  how can I find out?
[22:45] <alkisg> (also, we don't use 64-bit servers as they're not recommented by ubuntu - flash problems etc)
[22:45] <dgroos1> will that be an issue?
[22:46] <dgroos1> I mean, using your scripts on this 64 bit server?
[22:46] <alkisg> With sch-scripts? I don't think so, I suppose they'll work fine
[22:46] <alkisg> What are your client specs? cpu/ram?
[22:47] <dgroos1> most are p4, 512 RAM, at least 1.8 GHz
[22:47] <alkisg> Are you planning on operating them as thin clients or as fat?
[22:47] <dgroos1> Also have P3 with 512 RAM and 933 MHz
[22:48] <dgroos1> I used them last year as localapps, was going to continue this.
[22:48] <alkisg> ok
[22:51] <alkisg> Run this command to prevent dnsmasq from messing with your dhcp3-server: sudo dpkg-divert --divert /etc/dnsmasq.diverted --rename /etc/init.d/dnsmasq
[22:53] <dgroos1> Did it.  Thanks!  I'll continue on with the directions upon returning from an errand.  I'll probably have questions for you... tomorrow your time?
[22:54] <alkisg> Sure, good luck