[02:49] <txwikinger> ok..what reason update deletes .kde profiles?
[02:49] <txwikinger> ok..what reaso update deletes .kde profiles?
[02:49] <txwikinger> ok..what recent update deletes .kde profiles?
[03:40] <Tm_T> txwikinger: ?
[04:28] <shadeslayer_> \o
[04:37] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: around? need a opinion
[04:42] <shadeslayer_> amichair: no... plasma is currently shooting out of nose, ears and mouth
[04:43] <shadeslayer_> amichair: then i also dont have the slightest clue to what needs to be fixed, ill look at the changes to see whats wrong...
[04:45] <shadeslayer_> anyone around?
[04:46] <shadeslayer_> i need a backtrace :p
[04:47] <valorie> I think apachelogger sank into a coma
[04:48] <shadeslayer_> oho!
[04:48] <shadeslayer_> ohohohoh!
[04:48] <valorie> he's been sick, and kept working anyway
[04:48] <shadeslayer_> nooo :(
[04:48]  * shadeslayer_ goes to find mvo
[04:49] <shadeslayer_> amichair: first of all... i think you broke it :P
[04:50] <shadeslayer_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/software-properties/main/revision/588#softwareproperties/MirrorTest.py
[04:56] <shadeslayer_> bbl
[06:32] <valorie> I banished rekonq from being my browser of choice
[06:33] <valorie> and am a much happier woman for it
[06:33] <valorie> although konq is still weak on flash
[06:33] <Tm_T> Konqueror <3
[06:33] <valorie> konq is steady
[07:20] <shadeslayer_> valorie: why did you banish rekonq ?? 0_o
[07:20] <valorie> not only did it crash about hourly
[07:20] <shadeslayer_> if its flash, then its not a rekonq problem :P
[07:20] <valorie> but it refused, over and over, to open links
[07:21] <shadeslayer_> valorie: any specific steps to reproduce?
[07:21] <valorie> which other browsers had no problem opening
[07:21] <valorie> I just lost patience
[07:21] <valorie> rather random
[07:21] <shadeslayer_> links such as?
[07:21] <valorie> links from IRC, for the most part
[07:22] <valorie> if you really want reports, I can switch back and give them to you
[07:22] <shadeslayer_> valorie: please do :D
[07:22] <valorie> but I'm not running from trunck
[07:22] <shadeslayer_> then we can fix
[07:22] <valorie> trunk
[07:22] <shadeslayer_> valorie: i am..
[07:22] <shadeslayer_> ill test out and try to fix if i can, if not, ill send confirmed reports to adjam
[07:23] <valorie> ok, I'll just ping you with random URLs that refuse to open
[07:23] <shadeslayer_> valorie: could you pm them to shadeslayer ?
[07:23] <shadeslayer_> im in college right now ^_^
[07:23] <valorie> ok
[07:24] <valorie> sure
[07:24] <shadeslayer_> thanks :D
[07:24] <shadeslayer_> Tm_T: are you in hiding? :P
[07:25] <valorie> wow, now it's behaving
[07:25] <valorie> put the fear of god into it, i did!
[07:25] <shadeslayer_> lol
[07:26] <valorie> hey, it works
[07:26] <valorie> knetworkmanager was driving me crazy
[07:26] <valorie> until I installed wicd
[07:26] <valorie> now it's a peach!
[07:26] <valorie> you gotta show 'em who is boss
[07:27] <shadeslayer_> valorie: also enable rekonq dbg output so that we can fix them crashes
[07:28] <shadeslayer_> gtg\
[07:29] <valorie> will do
[08:59] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: I am
[09:11] <apachelogger> debfx: not that I know about them, but sure
[09:13] <apachelogger> valorie: no coma, it just happens that I am in apachelogger's special place at 4 am utc ^^
[09:14] <valorie> lol
[09:14] <valorie> I hope you got some rest, coma or not
[09:14] <debfx> apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kalternatives_0.13-2ubuntu1.debdiff
[09:14] <debfx> and http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/partitionmanager_1.0.2-1ubuntu2.debdiff
[09:14] <apachelogger> debfx: did you bring those upstream already?
[09:15]  * apachelogger is actually wondering how upstram handles that stuff considering those changes are not backwards compatible
[09:15] <apachelogger> oh
[09:15] <apachelogger> there is a v2 ^^
[09:15] <apachelogger> fair enough
[09:15] <debfx> yeah :)
[09:15] <apachelogger> debfx: just get them upstream :P
[09:15] <debfx> partitionmanager doesn't have a kcm anymore
[09:15] <apachelogger> oh
[09:15] <apachelogger> even better
[09:15] <apachelogger> kalternatives?
[09:18] <debfx> that needs to be fixed upstream
[09:18] <apachelogger> debfx: okies, good fun with that, I'll upload to you bun too
[09:19] <apachelogger> debfx: btw, did you testbuild with the changes? (rebuild errors and all?)
[09:21] <debfx> apachelogger: kalternatives builds fine
[09:21] <debfx> partitionmanager build is running
[09:30] <debfx> apachelogger: no build errors
[09:32] <apachelogger> debfx: cheers man
[09:32] <apachelogger> debfx: both uploaded, thank you for your contribution
[09:39] <jussi> does anyone know the status of the X bug where you cant use the nvidia drivers? (or even which bug # it is)
[09:41] <\sh> jussi: bug #616023
[09:41] <\sh> jussi: and the fix is in comment 
[09:41] <jussi> \sh: thank you very much. 
[09:41] <\sh> no #28
[09:41] <\sh> jussi: just running maverick with nvidia current and the fix
[09:43] <jussi> \sh: are you using the ppa? (I have no desire to use PPA's on a development release)
[09:51] <\sh> jussi: no .. the latest nvidia-current in maverick
[09:51] <jussi> \sh: ok, thanks!
[09:51] <\sh> jussi: 256.44-0ubuntu1
[09:52] <jussi> \sh: right, let me test (just updated)
[09:57] <jussi> \sh: Thank you. works now! :)
[10:04] <\sh> jussi: nice :)
[10:20] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816092020-ncdvqcnc4ex2cxol * src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) properly handle errors in api interface
[10:22] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816092159-xf87e391nmmjlt0h * src/api/Api.cpp todo--
[10:23] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816092344-bpc6m758jsaym5pn * src/share/ShareDialog.cpp todo--
[10:31] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816093111-j7468m4n6s1onw6t * debian/changelog Snapshot
[10:36] <Sput> oooh \sh is alve!
[10:42] <\sh> Sput: somehow....
[10:43] <apachelogger> wgrant: how does one get ddebs for PPAs now?
[10:43] <Sput> long time no beer
[10:43] <wgrant> apachelogger: The primary archive isn't ready for it yet, so we can't switch them on.
[10:44] <wgrant> apachelogger: The code for PPAs is there, but it's not really safe until a couple of bugs relating to primary archive handling are fixed.
[10:44] <wgrant> I'll hopefully get to them over the weekend.
[10:44] <apachelogger> sweet
[10:45]  * apachelogger hints to Quintasan that once ddebs for PPAs are ready the time he spent on qt nighly's dbg stripping was wasted :S
[10:45] <\sh> Sput: right...but when we moved to our new flat ... we will have some beer :)
[10:45] <\sh> Sput: promised
[10:45] <Sput> \sh: moving again?
[10:46] <\sh> Sput: yes...old flat is too broken and too dangerous for sean
[10:46] <Sput> \sh: why and where!
[10:46] <Sput> broken? looked quite nice when I was there
[10:46] <\sh> Sput: where: durmhersheim city..
[10:46] <Sput> hmmm, that puts you in the "reachable" category then
[10:46] <Sput> close to S-Bahn?
[10:46] <\sh> Sput: yes
[10:47] <Sput> cool
[10:47] <wgrant> apachelogger: I did warn about that at the time :P
[10:47] <apachelogger> ^^
[10:47] <\sh> Sput: and why: mildew in the bath, broken kitchen wall etc. 
[10:47]  * apachelogger will sure be glad when all the dbg foo can go
[10:47] <Sput> \sh: ah, well
[10:47] <Sput> right, was it you who had the kitchen furniture come tumbling down?
[10:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think my gsoc stuff is ready...
[10:47] <\sh> Sput: yeah
[10:48] <Sput> I see
[10:48] <Sput> well, when're you moving?
[10:50] <\sh> Sput: on the 21st (next saturday)
[10:51] <Sput> \sh: meh, not around on that weekend
[10:51] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816095132-pv0d3vwk9ouvolq2 * debian/copyright add icon license
[10:51] <\sh> Sput: no problem...have enough hands :)
[10:51] <Sput> this seems to be the single most popular weekend of the year, I think. I had to decide between half a dozen different invitations and events (not the least being Froscon), but I have to go to my old friend's wedding
[10:52] <\sh> Sput: 21st is froscon weekend
[10:52] <Sput> \sh: that's what I said :)
[10:53] <Sput> but I'm going to be at the wedding instead
[10:53] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816095342-rwit37r3q6gs580m * TODO update TODO
[10:54] <apachelogger> froscon \o/
[10:55] <\sh> Sput: I think the wedding is better ;) 
[10:55] <Sput> not sure :)
[10:56] <yofel> apachelogger: actually, it seemed like he got confused wth Qt's configure options and forgot to enable debug mode, so there were no symbols to be stripped :P
[11:34] <amichair> shadeslayer: that revision is from before Lucid came out, and works fine...
[11:34] <amichair> shadeslayer: but I took a look in Maverick, and I think the problem is due to some change or breakage of PyQt slot argument type handling
[11:35] <\sh> hmmm...dolphin is always crashing on me, when I start two dolphin windows...on maverick
[11:35] <amichair> shadeslayer: I already found one workaround, but reading up a bit more to see if there's any explicit documentation of the changes anywhere...
[11:37] <amichair> JontheEchidna: ^^ for you too :-)
[11:53] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816105255-1w0aer6xmulo8cqp * NOTES.dolphin remove example class, do not like it ... add remark about controlling default on/off
[12:00] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu lucid.1 candidates needing testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all
[12:08] <Riddell> also Amarok needs packaging
[12:37]  * apachelogger adds webm support to qtwebkit ^^
[12:38] <jussi> apachelogger: rock on
[12:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/Harald_Sitter.tar.gz think that is good for the code sample?
[12:38]  * jussi wonders if anyone else has issues with facebook not being able to rotate pictures today...
[12:46]  * apachelogger says good bye to dolphin
[12:47] <apachelogger> that preview + sidepane setting is certain death 
[12:48] <Riddell> I'll probably turn off preview when I remember to do so
[12:48] <Riddell> but I find it much more useful with the side pane than without
[12:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: I turned off previews in bzr already
[12:50] <maco> haha
[12:50] <Riddell> ah, sorted
[12:50] <maco> Riddell: taco says what i did to fonts looks ok
[12:50] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes that code sample looks good
[12:51] <maco> but umm font defaults on netbook are dejavu sans, not sans.... you said sans was default...
[12:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: IMHO we should implement something upstream that turns on previews if path is XDG_PICTURES_DIR or child of it
[12:51] <apachelogger> possibly with tick box in the dolphin settings "[x] Sane Previews" ;)
[12:52] <Riddell> yes
[12:52] <apachelogger> maco: maybe someone broke the netbook
[12:52] <Riddell> for cameras too if possible to detect
[12:52] <Riddell> SD cards etc
[12:52] <apachelogger> I think that can be checked via solid rather easily
[13:11] <shadeslayer> amichair: alrighty 
[13:21] <shadeslayer> anyone who has access to retry builds around?
[13:25] <schmidtm> :q
[13:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what's up?
[13:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i64 kdenetwork built, needed to retry it, dholbach just hit the button :)
[13:32] <shadeslayer> i hope you moved srtp to main....
[13:33] <Riddell> it was libsrtp-dev that needed moving to main
[13:33] <shadeslayer> yes
[13:33] <shadeslayer> that one :D
[13:33] <Riddell> you need to be precise when asking for things like that
[13:34] <amichair> shadeslayer: can u pls confirm+merge the fix? (last rev. in my branch at lp:amichai2/software-properties/fixes)
[13:35] <shadeslayer> amichair: i cant merge, but i can confirm
[13:35] <amichair> well that's a good start ;-)
[13:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: quick question, http://rohangarg.pastebin.com/aSVsN3xL : line 54-58 are redundant right? since i dont pass those vars anywhere
[13:38]  * debfx starts to package amarok
[13:39] <shadeslayer> debfx: new amarok?
[13:39] <debfx> shadeslayer: 2.3.2 beta
[13:39] <shadeslayer> debfx: nothing on kde-packager
[13:39] <shadeslayer> or do they not announce there? :P
[13:43] <amichair> shadeslayer, JontheEchidna: anything else you'd like me to look at?
[13:44] <JontheEchidna> Nah, I'm good :)
[13:45] <shadeslayer> me too :P
[13:45] <debfx> shadeslayer: no idea where Riddell got the intel ;)
[13:45] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:46] <shadeslayer> there should be a RSS feed to all updates in /home/packager/ftpubuntu
[13:53] <shadeslayer> where are my frickin debs
[13:53] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ^
[13:53] <shadeslayer> cowbuilder--
[14:12] <amichair> is there a list of top bugs to be crushed for Maverick yet?
[14:23] <shadeslayer> amichair: yeah
[14:23] <debfx> shadeslayer: what happened to rekonq daily builds? did they stop because of broken launchpad: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rekonq/+recipe/rekonq-daily ?
[14:24] <shadeslayer> debfx: yep
[14:24] <shadeslayer> debfx: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs
[14:24] <shadeslayer> debfx: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1688EB2508 << cant open recipe page
[14:27] <amichair> shadeslayer: where can I find it?
[14:28] <shadeslayer> oh man
[14:28] <shadeslayer> sorry debfx :P
[14:28] <shadeslayer> amichair: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs
[14:29] <amichair> oh :-)
[14:29] <debfx> lol "ubuntu single sign on"
[14:30] <shadeslayer> amichair: we haz #kubuntu-bugs
[14:30] <debfx> shadeslayer: I don't have access to that page, anything interesting there?
[14:30] <shadeslayer> whut!
[14:31] <shadeslayer> debfx: join https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs
[14:31] <debfx> shadeslayer: the lp oops page
[14:32] <shadeslayer> ohh.. your not authorised to see that page then
[14:32] <shadeslayer> neither am i
 shadeslayer, it's a TypeError when trying to do  None + int.
[14:34] <debfx> lol, the launchpad login service is apparently not good enough as users don't know the brand launchpad
[14:34] <apachelogger> linking qtwebkit is quite the dangerous thing
[14:35] <debfx> so they re-implemented the whole thing as proprietary software
[14:35] <apachelogger> debfx: uh?
[14:35] <apachelogger> ah
[14:35] <apachelogger> well
[14:35] <debfx> apachelogger: indeed it crashed my laptop several times
[14:36] <apachelogger> ubuntu single sign on was announced some months ago
[14:36] <apachelogger> unfortunately it did not get the amount of rant I fel it deserved...
[14:36] <apachelogger> now they have made ubuntu-sso-client, which essentially duplicates the UI bits
[14:37] <apachelogger> so now there is launchpad login UI + backend, ubuntu sso UI + backend and ubuntu-sso-client UI
[14:37] <apachelogger> debfx: I think it woudl be best to turn of swapping and renice the linker for qtwebkit
[14:38] <apachelogger> that should prevent the system from going awall
[14:38] <debfx> oh dear
[14:40] <debfx> apachelogger: restricting the build to one cpu core has fixed the problem even though I don't know why
[14:41] <apachelogger> oh
[14:41] <apachelogger> and it uses hardcoded lzma :/
[14:42]  * apachelogger is wondering if we could factor the lzma stuff out into a seperate module that could be used seperately too
[14:55] <apachelogger> ah that looks very possible and very easy too
[14:58] <debfx> apachelogger: how do you make the kde addon imply the new lzma addon?
[14:58] <apachelogger> simple perl use directive
[14:59] <apachelogger> ohm
[14:59] <apachelogger> now webm works but vorbis and theora are b0rked :O
[15:00] <apachelogger> hm
[15:00] <apachelogger> seems to me the mimetype listing from phonon-backend-vlc is a bit incomplete
[15:00] <apachelogger> lists "audio/x-vorbis+ogg" but not audio/x-vorbis
[15:00]  * apachelogger is not even sure if he can savely assume that former implies latter
[15:01] <ScottK> kopete-gcall is meant to go in Universe, right?
[15:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yes
[15:01] <shadeslayer> or
[15:01] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^
[15:02] <apachelogger> ohhhhhh
[15:02] <apachelogger> this is fishy
[15:02] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah I guess so
[15:02] <ScottK> OK. 
[15:02] <apachelogger> phonon-backend-xine is also not listing audio/x-vorbis
[15:02]  * ScottK is looking at it in New.
[15:03] <apachelogger> and now I killed the rekonq -.-
[15:04] <ScottK> shadeslayer: What's the lib it needs that's in Universe?
[15:04] <shadeslayer> libkopete4
[15:04] <shadeslayer> its not in universe tho
[15:04] <ScottK> So why is it split out?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> ScottK: cant go onto cd because of libmediastreamer
[15:05] <ScottK> OK
[15:05] <Riddell> depends on libavcodec52
[15:05] <ScottK> Right.  Thanks.
[15:05] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: pingly
[15:05] <shadeslayer> see plasma people say patch is good
[15:06] <shadeslayer> needs testing.. thats it :)
[15:06] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: testing procedure @ http://pastebin.com/FbpivDxp
[15:09] <ScottK> Riddell and shadeslayer: accepted.
[15:10] <shadeslayer> \o/
[15:14] <apachelogger> hm
[15:14] <apachelogger> oh
[15:14] <apachelogger> hmmm
[15:14] <apachelogger> is video broken in qtwebkit right now? :O
[15:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^
[15:15] <Riddell> apachelogger: it has never worked with phonon xine
[15:16] <Riddell> works fine with gstreamer and probably vlc xine
[15:16] <apachelogger> trying vlc right now
[15:16] <Riddell> audio works fine 
[15:16] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/html5.html  is my test page
[15:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: no dice at either
[15:16] <Riddell> phonon xine can't work, something to do with where the video gets directed
[15:16] <Riddell> gstreamer should work
[15:16] <apachelogger> I want vlc to work :P
[15:17] <apachelogger> gstreamer as crappy webm support I hear
[15:21] <Riddell> qtwebkit could do with being able to switch to a backend which works
[15:24] <apachelogger> hmmm
[15:24] <apachelogger> oh
[15:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5049/
[15:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^
[15:31] <apachelogger> holy french fries of lord vader
[15:31] <apachelogger> Riddell: it loads the thingies just fine it seems, but hitting play does not do nothing
[15:32]  * apachelogger is wondering how to get qtwebkit to spit out debug output
[15:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: good music ^^
[15:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: pokes
[15:43] <shadeslayer> dantti: dantti_work : erm... something wrong here? http://imgur.com/Qd7aM
[15:44] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: yes, old version of kpk :P the new one hides that for refreshing cache
[15:44] <shadeslayer> dantti: old? how is this old? :P
[15:44] <shadeslayer> i haz 0.6.0+svn1163215-0ubuntu1
[15:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: can you please fix the style complaints 
[15:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sure 
[15:45] <shadeslayer> was going to fix... got caught up in some other work
[15:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also fredrik still needs to ack anyway
[15:46] <shadeslayer> yep
[15:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do i remove all them spaces? or just the one mentioned
[15:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the trailing ones you introduced :P
[15:48] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: good to see details works now :D http://imgur.com/wXdf3
[15:49] <apachelogger> they did work before too :P
[15:49] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: yes, old :P I've been hard working on kpk all day yesterday... and such
[15:50] <dantti_work> yes they did but only with aptcc :P
[15:50] <apachelogger> aptcc++
[15:50] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: good to see they work by default now :D
[15:51] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: btw does the group search works for you? Ridell said it doesn't and yesterday fixing some bugs on a fedora vm it didn't work either...
[15:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: grep DefaultBack /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf
[15:51] <apachelogger> DefaultBackend=aptcc
[15:51] <apachelogger> default is aptcc now :P
[15:51] <apachelogger> so
[15:52] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:52] <shadeslayer> well
[15:52] <apachelogger> that is a bit twisted 
[15:52] <shadeslayer> aptcc++
[15:52] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: group search?
[15:52]  * apachelogger needs to recompile all of qtwebkit to get logging \\o/
[15:52] <apachelogger> that is if I actually hit the wrong switch
[15:52] <dantti_work> yup, clicking on the groups when kpk starts
[15:52] <apachelogger> s/wrong/right
[15:57] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: works for me
[15:58] <shadeslayer> i clicked on KDE > search for kdenetwork
[15:58] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: thanks, pretty weird bug
[15:58] <shadeslayer> arent they all
[15:58] <shadeslayer> had to click on Find by name btw
[15:59] <shadeslayer> er,
[15:59] <dantti_work> hmm well that does another search..
[15:59] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: ok see i click on KDE and it shows abby as first entry
[15:59] <dantti_work> you can go using the keyboard
[15:59] <shadeslayer> same for accessories
[15:59] <dantti_work> yes, that looks broken.. 
[15:59] <shadeslayer> and all other categories as well
[16:00] <dantti_work> my servers got all screwed after a power shutdown, I'm still trying to get network with xen :(
[16:00] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:06] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/478897/ what do you think?
[16:09] <Riddell> apachelogger: what do Qt packages currently use and why is this better?
[16:09] <Riddell> fldc: you just joined kubuntu-users, was there something which prompted that?
[16:09] <shadeslayer> erm
[16:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: they override dh_builddeb manually, while this approach is a) simpler and b) allows for usage of NO_DEB_LZMA and NO_DEB_COMPRESSION
[16:09] <shadeslayer> Riddell: No description available for kopete-gcall in ubuntu maverick. << doesnt look good
[16:10] <apachelogger> b) very much pays off with stuff like qt or qtwebkit
[16:10] <Riddell> apachelogger: go for it then
[16:10] <shadeslayer> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/kopete-gcall
[16:10] <apachelogger> oh, there is also c) one central point to enhance in the future
[16:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: oki, thanks
[16:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer: where's that?
[16:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/kopete-gcall and https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/4:4.5.0b-0ubuntu2
[16:11] <Riddell> shrug, I expect it'll catch up one day
[16:12] <shadeslayer> lets see :P
[16:16] <debfx> apachelogger: dh_builddeb manpage says -u is deprecated and "--" should be used instead
[16:18] <apachelogger> well, that fix will have to wait
[16:18] <apachelogger> ...if people used my branch the world would look a whole lot brighter though...
[16:19] <Riddell> fldc: you just joined kubuntu-users, was there something which prompted that?
[16:19] <fldc_> Riddell: this was mostly to try out the new ubuntu-fonts :)
[16:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fixed white spaces http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5049/diff/#index_header
[16:20] <Riddell> fldc: where did you see that advertised?
[16:22] <fldc> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2010-August/004561.html :D
[16:22] <Riddell> fldc: and did it work?
[16:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so --with kde enables lzma compression ?
[16:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: looking good
[16:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: aye
[16:25] <shadeslayer> nice
[16:27] <fldc> Riddell: it does not seem that way :D
[16:34] <fldc> Riddell: maybe i should have read the rest of the thread ;)
[16:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: seems our package works :)
[16:52] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kopete gcall?
[16:52] <shadeslayer> yep
[16:52] <shadeslayer> only thing remaining is to ensure it doesnt create a issue with CD
[16:58] <ScottK> As long as it lives in Universe, that'd be hard for it to do.
[17:14] <nixternal> how are my favoritist hackers in the world?
[17:36] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:37] <shadeslayer> qimageblitz just released new tarball
[17:38] <shadeslayer> well.. was released some time ago actually
[18:21] <ScottK> Somebody updating kymymoney? http://dot.kde.org/2010/08/16/kmymoney-team-announces-first-platform-4-release
[18:30] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i can do it 
[18:30] <ScottK> Great.
[18:31] <shadeslayer> ScottK: bug fix release?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> or will need FFe ?
[18:31] <ScottK> No idea.
[18:31] <shadeslayer> seems new release
[18:31] <shadeslayer> :(
[18:33] <JontheEchidna> I was under the impression that prerelease -> stable releases didn't usually require an FFe
[18:39] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: 3.98 was a pre release to 4.5 ? 
[18:39] <JontheEchidna> yes
[18:40] <shadeslayer> no 4.1-4.4 in between? :P
[18:40] <shadeslayer> thats why i thought it might need FFE
[18:41] <JontheEchidna> nope, just a magical version jump
[18:44] <shadeslayer> ok then
[18:51] <apachelogger> ftbfs 
[18:51] <apachelogger> yay
[18:56] <debfx> in that case you can change "-u" to "--" :p
[18:58] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: It depends on if upstream was good and kept it to bug fix only (not all do).
[19:03] <sheytan> hey, will someone make k3b 2.0.1 package for lucid?
[19:03] <neversfelde> do we have 2.0 packages?
[19:04] <sheytan> mine k3b on lucid is 2.0.0
[19:04] <apachelogger> debfx: I thought exactly the same when I saw the ftbfs mail ^^
[19:05] <apachelogger> first I need to find out why that silly test fails though
[19:14] <apachelogger> oh oh oh
[19:14] <apachelogger> use will require a module *inside* a block
[19:15] <apachelogger> that ought to be a bit wrongish there indeed
[19:15]  * apachelogger pokes
[19:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ill complete this tommorow....
[19:16] <shadeslayer> wrt kmymoney
[19:17] <apachelogger> require++
[19:17]  * apachelogger tries what happens if --with kde --with lzma gets used
[19:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dh goes kaboom? :P
[19:18] <apachelogger> oh, does not seem to fail
[19:18] <apachelogger> well, IIRC require ought not to import a module twice 
[19:19] <apachelogger> not sure how that goes in different scopes, and if the --with's cause different scopes
[19:19] <apachelogger> but it does not seem to be the case
[19:20] <apachelogger> right, no problems so apparently they are of same scope
[19:24] <apachelogger> up we go
[20:49] <maco> Sput: does quassel's ssl stuff encrypt just login or everything?
[20:49] <Sput> maco: everything
[20:49] <maco> Sput: yay thanks
[20:49] <Riddell> assuming it's an SSL IRC server presumably
[20:49] <Sput> well, there's obviously two connections, one between client and core if you run them separately, and one between core and ircd
[20:50] <maco> im referring to client & core
[20:50] <Sput> yeah, that encrypts all
[20:51] <Sput> you should have a little green shield in the bottom right corner then
[20:51] <maco> oh so thats what that is
[20:51] <Sput> the tooltip should tell you :)
[20:51] <maco> it does... i just never tried it before
[20:51] <maco> er i mean.. the hovering...i never did that
[20:53] <Sput> happens :)
[21:11] <Daskreech> There are no daily Cds for Kubuntu?
[21:12] <debfx> Daskreech: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[21:15] <debfx> heh, amarok ships translated handbooks from 1.4
[21:17] <debfx> also they aren't installed in the correct location
[21:17] <Daskreech> debfx: that's live. I'm looking for alternate
[21:17] <debfx> Nightrose: ↑
[21:18] <Nightrose> debfx: *sigh*
[21:18] <Nightrose> 1.4?
[21:18] <Nightrose> that's clearly wrong
[21:18] <Nightrose> debfx: can you email me a list of outdated handbooks so i can make sure they're not in final?
[21:18] <Nightrose> lydia at kde org
[21:19] <debfx> Nightrose: at least the screenshots are 1.4
[21:19] <Nightrose> debfx: then very likely the rest is wrong as well
[21:22] <debfx> Nightrose: the ${CURRENT_LANG} variable isn't replaced by the actual language in the CMakeLists.txt files
[21:23] <debfx> so the docs end up in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/amarok
[21:23] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ^  
[21:27] <apachelogger> oggy oggy oggy
[21:27] <debfx> Nightrose: looks like all languages but english and ukrainian are outdated
[21:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: I really wonder how gst can work for you because to me it seems that the mediaobject never gets the play signal
[21:28] <apachelogger> fun
[21:29] <apachelogger> Nightrose: you should just replace that var with the name of the folder
[21:29] <apachelogger> i.e. the current_lang
[21:29] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ?
[21:29] <apachelogger> oh hold on
[21:30] <apachelogger> no no
[21:30] <apachelogger> Nightrose: in de/CMakeLists.txt ${CURRENT_LANG} becomes de
[21:31] <apachelogger> in fr/CMakeLists.txt ${CURRENT_LANG} becomes fr
[21:31] <apachelogger> and so on
[21:32] <debfx> except for en_US which becomes en
[21:32] <apachelogger> aight
[21:32] <apachelogger> which is the most silly thing I ever saw to begin with
[21:32] <Nightrose> apachelogger: so i have to do that by hand from now on?
[21:33] <apachelogger> unless you really want to reroll all the shit
[21:33] <apachelogger> or write a script
[21:33] <apachelogger> which is probably the best option yet
[21:34] <Nightrose> i'm not rerolling beta 1
[21:35] <apachelogger> well then
[21:37] <Daskreech> Are there daily non live CDs built?
[21:37] <apachelogger> Daskreech: very much so
[21:39] <Daskreech> hmmm
[21:39] <Daskreech> Doesn't seem to matter though I can't download from the servers
[21:40] <apachelogger> maybe the servers are made out of broken today
[21:41] <Daskreech> maybe
[21:44]  * Daskreech covers apachelogger in Fluff
[21:44] <apachelogger> I am all fluffed up today
[21:44] <apachelogger> horray
[21:44] <apachelogger> \o/
[21:47] <neversfelde> evening
[21:47] <neversfelde> where is lex?
[21:54] <apachelogger> neversfelde: vacation
[21:55] <apachelogger> travelling the lands and seas of middle earth
[21:55] <apachelogger> or something like that
[21:57] <neversfelde> apachelogger: ok, thanks for the info
[23:09] <dantti_work> is the text on the buttons (export, import) ok for an english reader? http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktophz3418
[23:10] <ulysses> looks good
[23:13] <dantti_work> maybe Export Installed Packages List to a File?
[23:50] <apachelogger> hm
[23:50]  * apachelogger thinks qtwebkit is implying things it should not be implying :S
[23:53] <apachelogger> uhhhh
[23:53] <apachelogger> debfx: I think -- instead of -u causes issues
[23:53] <apachelogger> I am not terribly sure why though