=== jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [02:49] ok..what reason update deletes .kde profiles? [02:49] ok..what reaso update deletes .kde profiles? [02:49] ok..what recent update deletes .kde profiles? === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [03:40] txwikinger: ? [04:28] \o [04:37] apachelogger: around? need a opinion [04:42] amichair: no... plasma is currently shooting out of nose, ears and mouth [04:43] amichair: then i also dont have the slightest clue to what needs to be fixed, ill look at the changes to see whats wrong... [04:45] anyone around? [04:46] i need a backtrace :p [04:47] I think apachelogger sank into a coma [04:48] oho! [04:48] ohohohoh! [04:48] he's been sick, and kept working anyway [04:48] nooo :( [04:48] * shadeslayer_ goes to find mvo [04:49] amichair: first of all... i think you broke it :P [04:50] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/software-properties/main/revision/588#softwareproperties/MirrorTest.py [04:56] bbl === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [06:32] I banished rekonq from being my browser of choice [06:33] and am a much happier woman for it [06:33] although konq is still weak on flash [06:33] Konqueror <3 [06:33] konq is steady [07:20] valorie: why did you banish rekonq ?? 0_o [07:20] not only did it crash about hourly [07:20] if its flash, then its not a rekonq problem :P [07:20] but it refused, over and over, to open links [07:21] valorie: any specific steps to reproduce? [07:21] which other browsers had no problem opening [07:21] I just lost patience [07:21] rather random [07:21] links such as? [07:21] links from IRC, for the most part [07:22] if you really want reports, I can switch back and give them to you [07:22] valorie: please do :D [07:22] but I'm not running from trunck [07:22] then we can fix [07:22] trunk [07:22] valorie: i am.. [07:22] ill test out and try to fix if i can, if not, ill send confirmed reports to adjam [07:23] ok, I'll just ping you with random URLs that refuse to open [07:23] valorie: could you pm them to shadeslayer ? [07:23] im in college right now ^_^ [07:23] ok [07:24] sure [07:24] thanks :D [07:24] Tm_T: are you in hiding? :P [07:25] wow, now it's behaving [07:25] put the fear of god into it, i did! [07:25] lol [07:26] hey, it works [07:26] knetworkmanager was driving me crazy [07:26] until I installed wicd [07:26] now it's a peach! [07:26] you gotta show 'em who is boss [07:27] valorie: also enable rekonq dbg output so that we can fix them crashes [07:28] gtg\ [07:29] will do === Tonio___ is now known as Tonio_ === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 [08:59] shadeslayer: I am [09:11] debfx: not that I know about them, but sure [09:13] valorie: no coma, it just happens that I am in apachelogger's special place at 4 am utc ^^ [09:14] lol [09:14] I hope you got some rest, coma or not [09:14] apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kalternatives_0.13-2ubuntu1.debdiff [09:14] and http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/partitionmanager_1.0.2-1ubuntu2.debdiff [09:14] debfx: did you bring those upstream already? [09:15] * apachelogger is actually wondering how upstram handles that stuff considering those changes are not backwards compatible [09:15] oh [09:15] there is a v2 ^^ [09:15] fair enough [09:15] yeah :) [09:15] debfx: just get them upstream :P [09:15] partitionmanager doesn't have a kcm anymore [09:15] oh [09:15] even better [09:15] kalternatives? [09:18] that needs to be fixed upstream [09:18] debfx: okies, good fun with that, I'll upload to you bun too [09:19] debfx: btw, did you testbuild with the changes? (rebuild errors and all?) [09:21] apachelogger: kalternatives builds fine [09:21] partitionmanager build is running [09:30] apachelogger: no build errors [09:32] debfx: cheers man [09:32] debfx: both uploaded, thank you for your contribution [09:39] does anyone know the status of the X bug where you cant use the nvidia drivers? (or even which bug # it is) [09:41] <\sh> jussi: bug #616023 [09:41] Launchpad bug 616023 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nVidia card : X won't start since 1.9 update, no screens found" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616023 [09:41] <\sh> jussi: and the fix is in comment [09:41] \sh: thank you very much. [09:41] <\sh> no #28 [09:41] <\sh> jussi: just running maverick with nvidia current and the fix [09:43] \sh: are you using the ppa? (I have no desire to use PPA's on a development release) [09:51] <\sh> jussi: no .. the latest nvidia-current in maverick [09:51] \sh: ok, thanks! [09:51] <\sh> jussi: 256.44-0ubuntu1 [09:52] \sh: right, let me test (just updated) [09:57] \sh: Thank you. works now! :) [10:04] <\sh> jussi: nice :) === Squt is now known as Sput [10:20] [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816092020-ncdvqcnc4ex2cxol * src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) properly handle errors in api interface [10:22] [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816092159-xf87e391nmmjlt0h * src/api/Api.cpp todo-- [10:23] [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816092344-bpc6m758jsaym5pn * src/share/ShareDialog.cpp todo-- [10:31] [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816093111-j7468m4n6s1onw6t * debian/changelog Snapshot [10:36] oooh \sh is alve! [10:42] <\sh> Sput: somehow.... [10:43] wgrant: how does one get ddebs for PPAs now? [10:43] long time no beer [10:43] apachelogger: The primary archive isn't ready for it yet, so we can't switch them on. [10:44] apachelogger: The code for PPAs is there, but it's not really safe until a couple of bugs relating to primary archive handling are fixed. [10:44] I'll hopefully get to them over the weekend. [10:44] sweet [10:45] * apachelogger hints to Quintasan that once ddebs for PPAs are ready the time he spent on qt nighly's dbg stripping was wasted :S [10:45] <\sh> Sput: right...but when we moved to our new flat ... we will have some beer :) [10:45] <\sh> Sput: promised [10:45] \sh: moving again? [10:46] <\sh> Sput: yes...old flat is too broken and too dangerous for sean [10:46] \sh: why and where! [10:46] broken? looked quite nice when I was there [10:46] <\sh> Sput: where: durmhersheim city.. [10:46] hmmm, that puts you in the "reachable" category then [10:46] close to S-Bahn? [10:46] <\sh> Sput: yes [10:47] cool [10:47] apachelogger: I did warn about that at the time :P [10:47] ^^ [10:47] <\sh> Sput: and why: mildew in the bath, broken kitchen wall etc. [10:47] * apachelogger will sure be glad when all the dbg foo can go [10:47] \sh: ah, well [10:47] right, was it you who had the kitchen furniture come tumbling down? [10:47] Riddell: I think my gsoc stuff is ready... [10:47] <\sh> Sput: yeah [10:48] I see [10:48] well, when're you moving? [10:50] <\sh> Sput: on the 21st (next saturday) [10:51] \sh: meh, not around on that weekend [10:51] [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816095132-pv0d3vwk9ouvolq2 * debian/copyright add icon license [10:51] <\sh> Sput: no problem...have enough hands :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:51] this seems to be the single most popular weekend of the year, I think. I had to decide between half a dozen different invitations and events (not the least being Froscon), but I have to go to my old friend's wedding [10:52] <\sh> Sput: 21st is froscon weekend [10:52] \sh: that's what I said :) [10:53] but I'm going to be at the wedding instead [10:53] [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816095342-rwit37r3q6gs580m * TODO update TODO [10:54] froscon \o/ [10:55] <\sh> Sput: I think the wedding is better ;) [10:55] not sure :) [10:56] apachelogger: actually, it seemed like he got confused wth Qt's configure options and forgot to enable debug mode, so there were no symbols to be stripped :P [11:34] shadeslayer: that revision is from before Lucid came out, and works fine... [11:34] shadeslayer: but I took a look in Maverick, and I think the problem is due to some change or breakage of PyQt slot argument type handling [11:35] <\sh> hmmm...dolphin is always crashing on me, when I start two dolphin windows...on maverick [11:35] shadeslayer: I already found one workaround, but reading up a bit more to see if there's any explicit documentation of the changes anywhere... [11:37] JontheEchidna: ^^ for you too :-) [11:53] [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100816105255-1w0aer6xmulo8cqp * NOTES.dolphin remove example class, do not like it ... add remark about controlling default on/off [12:00] ** Kubuntu lucid.1 candidates needing testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [12:08] also Amarok needs packaging [12:37] * apachelogger adds webm support to qtwebkit ^^ [12:38] apachelogger: rock on [12:38] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/Harald_Sitter.tar.gz think that is good for the code sample? [12:38] * jussi wonders if anyone else has issues with facebook not being able to rotate pictures today... [12:46] * apachelogger says good bye to dolphin [12:47] that preview + sidepane setting is certain death [12:48] I'll probably turn off preview when I remember to do so [12:48] but I find it much more useful with the side pane than without [12:50] Riddell: I turned off previews in bzr already [12:50] haha [12:50] ah, sorted [12:50] Riddell: taco says what i did to fonts looks ok [12:50] apachelogger: yes that code sample looks good [12:51] but umm font defaults on netbook are dejavu sans, not sans.... you said sans was default... [12:51] Riddell: IMHO we should implement something upstream that turns on previews if path is XDG_PICTURES_DIR or child of it [12:51] possibly with tick box in the dolphin settings "[x] Sane Previews" ;) [12:52] yes [12:52] maco: maybe someone broke the netbook [12:52] for cameras too if possible to detect [12:52] SD cards etc [12:52] I think that can be checked via solid rather easily [13:11] amichair: alrighty [13:21] anyone who has access to retry builds around? [13:25] :q === ofirk_ is now known as ofirk [13:31] shadeslayer: what's up? [13:32] Riddell: i64 kdenetwork built, needed to retry it, dholbach just hit the button :) [13:32] i hope you moved srtp to main.... [13:33] it was libsrtp-dev that needed moving to main [13:33] yes [13:33] that one :D [13:33] you need to be precise when asking for things like that [13:34] shadeslayer: can u pls confirm+merge the fix? (last rev. in my branch at lp:amichai2/software-properties/fixes) [13:35] amichair: i cant merge, but i can confirm [13:35] well that's a good start ;-) [13:36] Riddell: quick question, http://rohangarg.pastebin.com/aSVsN3xL : line 54-58 are redundant right? since i dont pass those vars anywhere [13:38] * debfx starts to package amarok [13:39] debfx: new amarok? [13:39] shadeslayer: 2.3.2 beta [13:39] debfx: nothing on kde-packager [13:39] or do they not announce there? :P [13:43] shadeslayer, JontheEchidna: anything else you'd like me to look at? [13:44] Nah, I'm good :) [13:45] me too :P [13:45] shadeslayer: no idea where Riddell got the intel ;) [13:45] hehe [13:46] there should be a RSS feed to all updates in /home/packager/ftpubuntu [13:53] where are my frickin debs [13:53] Quintasan: ^ [13:53] cowbuilder-- [14:12] is there a list of top bugs to be crushed for Maverick yet? === ofirk_ is now known as ofirk [14:23] amichair: yeah [14:23] shadeslayer: what happened to rekonq daily builds? did they stop because of broken launchpad: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rekonq/+recipe/rekonq-daily ? [14:24] debfx: yep [14:24] debfx: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs [14:24] debfx: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1688EB2508 << cant open recipe page [14:27] shadeslayer: where can I find it? [14:28] oh man [14:28] sorry debfx :P [14:28] amichair: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs [14:29] oh :-) [14:29] lol "ubuntu single sign on" [14:30] amichair: we haz #kubuntu-bugs [14:30] shadeslayer: I don't have access to that page, anything interesting there? [14:30] whut! [14:31] debfx: join https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs [14:31] shadeslayer: the lp oops page [14:32] ohh.. your not authorised to see that page then [14:32] neither am i [14:32] shadeslayer, it's a TypeError when trying to do None + int. [14:34] lol, the launchpad login service is apparently not good enough as users don't know the brand launchpad [14:34] linking qtwebkit is quite the dangerous thing [14:35] so they re-implemented the whole thing as proprietary software [14:35] debfx: uh? [14:35] ah [14:35] well [14:35] apachelogger: indeed it crashed my laptop several times [14:36] ubuntu single sign on was announced some months ago [14:36] unfortunately it did not get the amount of rant I fel it deserved... [14:36] now they have made ubuntu-sso-client, which essentially duplicates the UI bits [14:37] so now there is launchpad login UI + backend, ubuntu sso UI + backend and ubuntu-sso-client UI [14:37] debfx: I think it woudl be best to turn of swapping and renice the linker for qtwebkit [14:38] that should prevent the system from going awall [14:38] oh dear [14:40] apachelogger: restricting the build to one cpu core has fixed the problem even though I don't know why [14:41] oh [14:41] and it uses hardcoded lzma :/ [14:42] * apachelogger is wondering if we could factor the lzma stuff out into a seperate module that could be used seperately too [14:55] ah that looks very possible and very easy too [14:58] apachelogger: how do you make the kde addon imply the new lzma addon? [14:58] simple perl use directive [14:59] ohm [14:59] now webm works but vorbis and theora are b0rked :O [15:00] hm [15:00] seems to me the mimetype listing from phonon-backend-vlc is a bit incomplete [15:00] lists "audio/x-vorbis+ogg" but not audio/x-vorbis [15:00] * apachelogger is not even sure if he can savely assume that former implies latter [15:01] kopete-gcall is meant to go in Universe, right? [15:01] ScottK: yes [15:01] or [15:01] Thanks. [15:02] Riddell: ^ [15:02] ohhhhhh [15:02] this is fishy [15:02] ScottK: yeah I guess so [15:02] OK. [15:02] phonon-backend-xine is also not listing audio/x-vorbis [15:02] * ScottK is looking at it in New. [15:03] and now I killed the rekonq -.- [15:04] shadeslayer: What's the lib it needs that's in Universe? [15:04] libkopete4 [15:04] its not in universe tho [15:04] So why is it split out? [15:05] ScottK: cant go onto cd because of libmediastreamer [15:05] OK [15:05] depends on libavcodec52 [15:05] Right. Thanks. [15:05] Tm_T: pingly [15:05] see plasma people say patch is good [15:06] needs testing.. thats it :) [15:06] Tm_T: testing procedure @ http://pastebin.com/FbpivDxp [15:09] Riddell and shadeslayer: accepted. [15:10] \o/ [15:14] hm [15:14] oh [15:14] hmmm [15:14] is video broken in qtwebkit right now? :O [15:15] Riddell: ^ [15:15] apachelogger: it has never worked with phonon xine [15:16] works fine with gstreamer and probably vlc xine [15:16] trying vlc right now [15:16] audio works fine [15:16] http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/html5.html is my test page [15:16] Riddell: no dice at either [15:16] phonon xine can't work, something to do with where the video gets directed [15:16] gstreamer should work [15:16] I want vlc to work :P [15:17] gstreamer as crappy webm support I hear [15:21] qtwebkit could do with being able to switch to a backend which works [15:24] hmmm [15:24] oh [15:31] apachelogger: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5049/ [15:31] Riddell: ^ [15:31] holy french fries of lord vader [15:31] Riddell: it loads the thingies just fine it seems, but hitting play does not do nothing [15:32] * apachelogger is wondering how to get qtwebkit to spit out debug output [15:37] Riddell: good music ^^ [15:42] Quintasan: pokes [15:43] dantti: dantti_work : erm... something wrong here? http://imgur.com/Qd7aM [15:44] shadeslayer: yes, old version of kpk :P the new one hides that for refreshing cache [15:44] dantti: old? how is this old? :P [15:44] i haz 0.6.0+svn1163215-0ubuntu1 [15:44] shadeslayer: can you please fix the style complaints [15:45] apachelogger: sure [15:45] was going to fix... got caught up in some other work [15:46] shadeslayer: also fredrik still needs to ack anyway [15:46] yep [15:47] apachelogger: do i remove all them spaces? or just the one mentioned [15:48] shadeslayer: the trailing ones you introduced :P [15:48] dantti_work: good to see details works now :D http://imgur.com/wXdf3 [15:49] they did work before too :P [15:49] shadeslayer: yes, old :P I've been hard working on kpk all day yesterday... and such [15:50] yes they did but only with aptcc :P [15:50] aptcc++ [15:50] dantti_work: good to see they work by default now :D [15:51] shadeslayer: btw does the group search works for you? Ridell said it doesn't and yesterday fixing some bugs on a fedora vm it didn't work either... [15:51] shadeslayer: grep DefaultBack /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf [15:51] DefaultBackend=aptcc [15:51] default is aptcc now :P [15:51] so [15:52] oh [15:52] well [15:52] that is a bit twisted [15:52] aptcc++ [15:52] dantti_work: group search? [15:52] * apachelogger needs to recompile all of qtwebkit to get logging \\o/ [15:52] that is if I actually hit the wrong switch [15:52] yup, clicking on the groups when kpk starts [15:52] s/wrong/right [15:57] dantti_work: works for me [15:58] i clicked on KDE > search for kdenetwork [15:58] shadeslayer: thanks, pretty weird bug [15:58] arent they all [15:58] had to click on Find by name btw [15:59] er, [15:59] hmm well that does another search.. [15:59] dantti_work: ok see i click on KDE and it shows abby as first entry [15:59] you can go using the keyboard [15:59] same for accessories [15:59] yes, that looks broken.. [15:59] and all other categories as well [16:00] my servers got all screwed after a power shutdown, I'm still trying to get network with xen :( [16:00] :) [16:06] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/478897/ what do you think? [16:09] apachelogger: what do Qt packages currently use and why is this better? [16:09] fldc: you just joined kubuntu-users, was there something which prompted that? [16:09] erm [16:09] Riddell: they override dh_builddeb manually, while this approach is a) simpler and b) allows for usage of NO_DEB_LZMA and NO_DEB_COMPRESSION [16:09] Riddell: No description available for kopete-gcall in ubuntu maverick. << doesnt look good [16:10] b) very much pays off with stuff like qt or qtwebkit [16:10] apachelogger: go for it then [16:10] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/kopete-gcall [16:10] oh, there is also c) one central point to enhance in the future [16:10] Riddell: oki, thanks [16:10] shadeslayer: where's that? [16:10] Riddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/kopete-gcall and https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/4:4.5.0b-0ubuntu2 [16:11] shrug, I expect it'll catch up one day [16:12] lets see :P [16:16] apachelogger: dh_builddeb manpage says -u is deprecated and "--" should be used instead [16:18] well, that fix will have to wait [16:18] ...if people used my branch the world would look a whole lot brighter though... [16:19] fldc: you just joined kubuntu-users, was there something which prompted that? [16:19] Riddell: this was mostly to try out the new ubuntu-fonts :) [16:19] apachelogger: fixed white spaces http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5049/diff/#index_header === fldc_ is now known as fldc [16:20] fldc: where did you see that advertised? [16:22] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2010-August/004561.html :D [16:22] fldc: and did it work? [16:24] apachelogger: so --with kde enables lzma compression ? [16:24] shadeslayer: looking good [16:24] shadeslayer: aye [16:25] nice [16:27] Riddell: it does not seem that way :D [16:34] Riddell: maybe i should have read the rest of the thread ;) [16:49] Riddell: seems our package works :) [16:52] shadeslayer: kopete gcall? [16:52] yep [16:52] only thing remaining is to ensure it doesnt create a issue with CD [16:58] As long as it lives in Universe, that'd be hard for it to do. [17:14] how are my favoritist hackers in the world? [17:36] hmm [17:37] qimageblitz just released new tarball [17:38] well.. was released some time ago actually [18:21] Somebody updating kymymoney? http://dot.kde.org/2010/08/16/kmymoney-team-announces-first-platform-4-release [18:30] ScottK: i can do it [18:30] Great. [18:31] ScottK: bug fix release? [18:31] or will need FFe ? [18:31] No idea. [18:31] seems new release [18:31] :( [18:33] I was under the impression that prerelease -> stable releases didn't usually require an FFe [18:39] JontheEchidna: 3.98 was a pre release to 4.5 ? [18:39] yes [18:40] no 4.1-4.4 in between? :P [18:40] thats why i thought it might need FFE [18:41] nope, just a magical version jump [18:44] ok then [18:51] ftbfs [18:51] yay [18:56] in that case you can change "-u" to "--" :p [18:58] JontheEchidna: It depends on if upstream was good and kept it to bug fix only (not all do). [19:03] hey, will someone make k3b 2.0.1 package for lucid? [19:03] do we have 2.0 packages? [19:04] mine k3b on lucid is 2.0.0 [19:04] debfx: I thought exactly the same when I saw the ftbfs mail ^^ [19:05] first I need to find out why that silly test fails though [19:14] oh oh oh [19:14] use will require a module *inside* a block [19:15] that ought to be a bit wrongish there indeed [19:15] * apachelogger pokes [19:16] ScottK: ill complete this tommorow.... [19:16] wrt kmymoney [19:17] require++ [19:17] * apachelogger tries what happens if --with kde --with lzma gets used [19:18] apachelogger: dh goes kaboom? :P [19:18] oh, does not seem to fail [19:18] well, IIRC require ought not to import a module twice [19:19] not sure how that goes in different scopes, and if the --with's cause different scopes [19:19] but it does not seem to be the case [19:20] right, no problems so apparently they are of same scope [19:24] up we go === ulysses is now known as ulysses__ === ulysses__ is now known as ulysses [20:49] Sput: does quassel's ssl stuff encrypt just login or everything? [20:49] maco: everything [20:49] Sput: yay thanks [20:49]