[00:19] <judgen> How do i get back removed icons in the k-menu?
[01:30] <FloridaGuy> whats the command to add kde 4.5.0 to the repo
[01:31] <Pici> FloridaGuy: I believe  the information is in the topic.
[01:32] <FloridaGuy> Pici, im looking all over in there
[01:32] <Pici> http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-45
[01:34] <FloridaGuy> just said i am in there looking all over the site
[01:37] <chevelle_> hi people
[01:39] <chevelle_> i need install automix but no find in repository
[01:39] <chevelle_> any idea?
[01:42] <FloridaGuy> chevelle_, hang let me take a look
[01:45] <FloridaGuy> chevelle_, you wanting automix or aumix
[01:54] <shallwe> hi
[01:54] <shallwe> here is irc for kubuntu netbook ?
[01:54] <shallwe> is here?
[01:56] <shallwe> someone knows how not autohide the upper panel?
[01:58] <FloridaGuy> shallwe, what upper panel
[01:59] <shallwe> FloridaGuy: the only panel :D
[01:59] <shallwe> its in top
[01:59] <shallwe> its autohide, but i like not hide :(
[01:59] <shallwe> in kubuntu netbook version
[01:59] <FloridaGuy> ok....you see the little half shape moon thing on the end of it
[02:01] <shallwe> ya
[02:01] <shallwe> lets try >D
[02:02] <FloridaGuy> click on there and you should bring up another panel right ubunder it...on the right hand side of the screen it should say more setings or something like that...autohide will be under that
[02:03] <shallwe> humm let me see
[02:06] <shallwe> stranger, nothing
[02:07] <shallwe> only add widgets, search and block page
[02:08] <shallwe> wait i will put a printscreen :P
[02:09] <FloridaGuy> ok
[02:09] <shallwe> err..
[02:09] <shallwe> http://img267.imageshack.us/i/imagem1bq.png/
[02:09] <shallwe> its portuguese :P
[02:10] <shallwe> but look down only 3 options
[02:10] <shallwe> adicionar widgets = add widgets
[02:11] <shallwe> configurar pesquisa e execução = config search and executions
[02:11] <shallwe> bloquear página = block page
[02:13] <FloridaGuy> if you can hand on for a few..im installing kde base 4.5.0 right now....then i can look at mine
[02:14] <shallwe> ohh sure thanks :D
[02:15] <shallwe> but are you installing netbook version ?
[02:16] <FloridaGuy> not really any difference net-book ithink is just smaller
[02:17] <maco> the interface is different
[02:18] <maco> in 10.10 its all one CD and you can pick desktop or netbook interface from systemsettings -> workspace
[02:18] <FloridaGuy> Macobut the taskbar should be the same right
[02:18] <maco> no
[02:18] <FloridaGuy> he's tring to autohide
[02:19] <maco> autohide is automatic in netbook....
[02:19] <shallwe> im tring tun off autohide :P
[02:20] <maco> in 4.5 you can right click the panel -> unlock panel, THEN hit the cashe on search & launch, and a thing floating under the panel will show up that has an autohide button
[02:20] <maco> if you're using 4.4 it's not optional
[02:20] <shallwe> maco: let me see it
[02:21] <maco> s/cashe/cashew/
[02:21] <shallwe> wow its 4.4.2 :(
[02:21] <shallwe> i install now it and update
[02:21] <shallwe> but its not upate for 4.5 o.O
[02:21] <FloridaGuy> guess on a desktop...autohide is under more settings or something like that on the panel
[02:21] <maco> 4.5 is for 10.10
[02:22] <maco> but there's a backport of it in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[02:22] <shallwe> aaaa :(
[02:22]  * maco notes that it says this in the /topic
[02:22] <shallwe> but is it stable?
[02:22] <FloridaGuy> im installing 4.5.0 right now
[02:22] <maco> yes, it was released as a stable kde release last week
[02:22] <shallwe> humm so i will put backport and update :D
[02:23] <shallwe> thanks maco i will try it :D
[02:24] <FloridaGuy> 4.5.0 is the best version so far
[02:25] <FloridaGuy> i been runing it for the last 2 weeks on mandriva
[02:28] <FloridaGuy> where would i find a log file at..i get at boot time...something to do with dbus...some sis module not loaded
[02:30] <shallwe> omg more than 200mb :P here in brazil with our internet we die hoping something :P
[02:31] <maco> FloridaGuy: there is no logging for upstart yet, afaik :-/
[02:31] <maco> FloridaGuy: dmesg *might* have it...
[02:31] <FloridaGuy> ok
[02:31] <maco> but theres no boot.log
[02:33] <FloridaGuy> maco, here it is... [   24.453868] sis630_smbus 0000:00:02.0: SIS630 comp. bus not detected, module not inserted
[02:34] <FloridaGuy> get that in mandriva to...
[03:05] <coffeelord> oh my goodness this kde is beautiful.
[03:06] <VeinJu> Hey guys, I want to uninstall Googleearth but I dont know how to do that clean
[04:09] <xisorshadow> hi im new to ubuntu and i had a question
[04:25] <condon> xios, what's up?
[05:06] <toshiaki> hi!
[05:34] <condon> anyone know what will cause compiz to launch fallback window manager?  No errors reporting in command line.
[05:36] <sobczyk> is there any explanation why parts of my system uses different locale than the default one?
[05:44] <phoenix__> i have enabled automount for all removable devices at login, it is asking password for every drive mount at startup. how to mount all the drives with a single password without an external script
[06:08] <maxmans> buenas
[06:08] <maxmans> hi
[06:39] <corigo> How can I remove older kernels?
[06:42] <DarthFrog> corigo:  "sudo dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d '\'' '\'' -f 3 | grep linux" will tell you what kernel packages are installed.  "sudo ap-get remove <kernel package" will do the removal.
[06:44] <DarthFrog> That's if you like doing things at the command line.  Use "Applications/System/Software Management" if you prefer to point 'n drool. :-)
[06:47] <corigo> DarthFrog: Command line statement did nothing as written... except leave me in a running (unclosed) statement. Don't see any way to remove old kernels in point and drool either
[06:48] <DarthFrog> Oops, sorry my bad.  The command actually is: sudo dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d ' ' -f 3 |grep linux
[06:50] <DarthFrog> I have an alias: alias lspkg="dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d ' ' -f 3 | sort | less"  which I quickly modified for you.  Unfortunately, I modified the output of the "alias lspkg" command rather than the actual text as in .bash_aliases.
[06:58] <corigo> So what does this command do exactly? List the installed kernels?
[06:59] <DarthFrog> It'll list all installed packages with linux in the name.
[06:59] <DarthFrog> linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic  is a kernel package.
[07:00] <DarthFrog> And you can use that name for the apt-get remove command.
[07:00] <corigo> I see
[07:00] <DarthFrog> eg.  sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic
[07:00] <DarthFrog> But don't remove that actual kernel as it is the current one. :-)
[07:00] <murali> please helpme. i am new to kubuntu. whenever i use a webbrowser and opens a web page which contains high resolution pics. my computer slows down and eventually becomes unresponsive
[07:01] <DarthFrog> You'll also want to remove the appropriate linux-headers packages.
[07:01] <DarthFrog> murali: Sounds to me like you need more RAM.
[07:04] <murali> please helpme. i am new to kubuntu. whenever i use a webbrowser and opens a web page which contains high resolution pics. my computer slows down and eventually becomes unresponsive
[07:06] <corigo> Murali, how much RAM do you have?
[07:06] <murali> CArigo, i have 2 RAMS. 1GBram n 256MB RAM
[07:07] <murali> Carigo, i have 2 RAMS. 1GBram n 256MB RAM
[07:07] <DarthFrog> murali: There's no need to repeat your posts.  Please don't.
[07:08] <murali> DarthFrog, ok
[07:11] <DarthFrog> murali: When you are about to load one of these high rez pix, first open a command line window and issue the "top" command.  That will report the memory usage.  It'll report a lot of other things too, it's a very valuable utility.  Compare the "swap used" before and after.  If the swap used increases, you need more RAM.
[07:13] <murali> DarthFrog, 1.2GB RAM is not enough.??? This happens only wen i open webpages with high resolution pics(1024*2000) appx.
[07:14] <murali> DarthFrog, please suggets the RAM memory required?
[07:14] <DarthFrog> It's not enough if what you're doing consumes all your physical RAM and you start swapping to virtual memory.  Virtual memory is over 100,000X slower than real memory.
[07:15] <DarthFrog> murali: What else do you have running besides the bowser?  Try closing open applications to free up the RAM they're using.
[07:16] <DarthFrog> Personally, RAM is so cheap nowadays, I'd simply max out the RAM my machine can take.
[07:17] <murali> DarthFrog: Well, mine is DDR1 RAMs and their price is high wen compared to other rams.
[07:18] <murali> DarthFrog: Is there anything tht i can do anything other thn upgrading my ram? Also i dint had this prob wen i am using XP. but i want to use kubuntu
[07:22] <DarthFrog> murali: I don't know that it's a RAM shortage.  But it sounds like it might be.  That's why the use of "top" is a good diagnostic tool.  No point in throwing money at a problem if it won't solve the problem.
[07:25] <murali> DarthFrog: how can i use the comand "top".
[07:26] <DarthFrog> murali:  Just type "top" in a command line window.  It'll give you a lot of information, all of it being dynamically updated.  It might seem a bit much at first but you'll quickly figure it out.
[07:28] <murali> Darth Frog: I have already opened it up. I dnt kno wat i have to look for in it
[07:28] <DarthFrog> See the line in the top section, Swap:?
[07:28] <DarthFrog> How much is total and how much is used?
[07:29] <DarthFrog> You want as little as possible to be used.
[07:30] <murali> Darthfrog: 0used, total free
[07:31] <navetz> hi, I am trying to do sudo aptitude upgrade but i am getting this message: http://pastebin.ca/1917970 , can someone tell me how I can install all these things?
[07:31] <DarthFrog> 0 total?  Hmm.
[07:31] <murali> i mean total swap memory is free
[07:32] <DarthFrog> murali: How much total swap?  How much free swap?
[07:32] <murali> Darthfrog: Swap:  1145848k total,        0k used,  1145848k free,
[07:33] <murali> Darthfrog: Mem:   1276424k total,  1056528k used,   219896k free,    39392k buffers
[07:33] <DarthFrog> murali: OK, now load one of the pictures that is causing problems and see how much swap is used.
[07:37] <murali> Darthfrog: pleaase wait while its loading and main memory useage is increasin
[07:38] <murali> Mem:   1276424k total,  1056528k used,   219896k free,    39392k buffers
[07:38] <DarthFrog> murali: I'm going to bed in a minute or so. Sorry.  But if the swap usage increases, then you need mor RAM.
[07:38] <murali> Swap:  1145848k total,    12844k used,  1133004k free,   347812k cached
[07:39] <well_laid_lawn> murali: have you checked   top   in konsole to see if something else is using system resources?
[07:41] <murali> well_laid_lawn: there are lots of processes running.
[07:41] <murali> well_laid_lawn: but the the ewb browser is not takin max cpu mem
[07:43] <well_laid_lawn> murali: the apps that use the most are listed first - are the top ones using lots?
[07:44] <murali> well_laid_lawn: yes, there is a process with name "plugin-containe"
[07:45] <well_laid_lawn> I don't know what that is
[07:46] <well_laid_lawn> !find plugin-containe
[07:46] <well_laid_lawn> murali: seems that's a firefox plugin then...?
[07:46] <well_laid_lawn> murali: did you add it?
[07:48] <well_laid_lawn> !botsnack
[07:48] <murali> well_laid_lawn: not that i remember. also i am checking out the list of plug-in installed with firefox but there is no mention of "containe"
[07:48] <egonw> moin all... I installed KDE SC 4.5.0 from the ppa into my lucid installation, but now left with a broken kio_file and kio_http... I cannot find which package I am missing... and it basically leaves all KDE programs in a broken state... any suggestion on where to start looking would be very much appreciated...
[07:48] <well_laid_lawn> murali: it might be a default plugin firefox has
[07:49] <well_laid_lawn> egonw: you could check at launchpad
[07:49] <well_laid_lawn> !launchpad
[07:49] <murali> well_laid_lawn: ok. so what can v do now abt it?
[07:50] <well_laid_lawn> murali: I would close firefox and check to see the plugin goes away
[07:51] <well_laid_lawn> in top
[07:51] <well_laid_lawn> *
[07:51] <egonw> well_laid_lawn: I did this weekend, and once more just again... no hits for kio_http, it seems... and googling only gives old stuff, nothing about 4.5.0... I'm thinking something might have gone bad during the dist-upgrade, or so... as I'm apparently a rare case...
[07:52] <well_laid_lawn> egonw: I haven't seen on here anything similar to what you're reporting
[07:53] <well_laid_lawn> but then I'm not always here...]
[07:53] <egonw> well_laid_lawn: thanx for being supportive, nevertheless!
[07:53] <well_laid_lawn> heh :]
[07:53] <murali> well_laid_lawn: i closed the firefox and checked. its not there. to check once i opened mazilla and its still not there.
[07:54] <well_laid_lawn> murali: it might have just been a bad process - do what you were doing to see if it stays fine
[07:58] <murali> well_laid_lawn: ya i did tht. now "XORG" is taking more cpu
[07:59] <well_laid_lawn> murali: a couple of lines down from the top is the line that starts Cpu - in from there is the cpu idle percent %id - how idle is your cpu?
[08:02] <well_laid_lawn> murali: running gtk apps like firefox in a qt environment like kubuntu seems to use a bit of resources
[08:03] <murali> well_laid_lawn: so the solution?
[08:03] <murali> well_laid_lawn: i forgot to mention i am using Gnome desktop
[08:03] <well_laid_lawn> murali: choose the apps you run with the above in mind maybe
[08:04] <well_laid_lawn> murali: in #ubuntu you will have more luck finding someone who knows your issue then :]
[08:05] <murali> well_laid_lawn: thank you for ur help. u were very helpful
[08:05] <well_laid_lawn> murali: np :]
[08:37] <Ironbeard> I was wondering how I could specify user specific resolutions. My setup is a laptop running kubuntu 10 hooked up to an external monitor (laptop stays closed) which is a server that I shh/vnc tunnel into from my android handset.. I was hoping to create a profile on my server with the same resolution as the handset (320x480)
[08:38] <well_laid_lawn> nice question
[08:39] <Ironbeard> haha. sooo.. can't be done?
[08:43] <well_laid_lawn> I'm sure it can be - either with an xrandr command somewhere or with...
[08:45] <well_laid_lawn> in startvnc add a command for xrandr
[08:45] <well_laid_lawn> !xrandr
[08:45] <well_laid_lawn> it's not just for dualscreens
[08:47] <Ironbeard> hmm right on..doing some research
[08:49] <Ironbeard> i dont think i have the ability to start vnc with a xrandr command since it's from an android app
[08:49] <well_laid_lawn> but the startvnc script works on the lappy
[08:49] <well_laid_lawn> nothing to do with the clien iirc
[08:50] <well_laid_lawn> s/clien/client/
[08:50] <Ironbeard> ooh okay
[08:53] <Ironbeard> well_laid_lawn: sorry, don't see anything for a startvnc type script.. were you suggesting I create my own?
[08:54] <well_laid_lawn> Ironbeard: here it is in ~/.vnc/xstartup
[08:55] <Ironbeard> ahh! thanks
[08:56] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[08:57] <Ironbeard> Hmm.. sorry one more. I just set up a new kubuntu user on my server machine..never done multiple users. It can't find the .vnc folder even tho I know I have it in my other account.. i know vnc server is installed and can use it with my other account on the server...what am I forgetting to do on this new user account?
[08:59] <well_laid_lawn> as the user start vncserver and the dir should be made
[09:00] <Ironbeard> ahh right
[09:00] <Ironbeard> thanks again!
[09:05] <Ironbeard> well_laid_lawn: Could editing the geometry in the following line give me my desired result or do you think I still need to call xrandr? x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
[09:06] <well_laid_lawn> Ironbeard: that's sounds like the better option :]
[09:07] <Ironbeard> yay. Im learning as I go. So Im thinking 80x24+10+10 is 80x24 resolution and located at some x y coordinate (10,10)... is (0,0) the top left or..?
[09:08] <well_laid_lawn> 0,0 is top left
[09:09] <well_laid_lawn> Ironbeard: I'm learning here too :]
[09:10] <well_laid_lawn> all I did with vnc was edit the startup file to run ~/.xinitrc
[09:10] <Ironbeard> haha. I was just stoked I set up ssh and vnc today, it keeps getting better.. hoping to get some x10 wall sockets and control ac/lighting with the ol phone
[09:10] <well_laid_lawn> woot!
[09:10] <Ironbeard> what is xinitrc?
[09:11] <well_laid_lawn> it is a dot file that's starts the window manager and environment - I use it 'cause i don't use a desktop environment to handle things
[09:11] <well_laid_lawn> ~/.xinitrc
[09:12] <Ironbeard> aaah right on. Sweet. Is there a way to disable plasma compositing in this account?
[09:13] <well_laid_lawn> that's not something I've tried before
[09:13] <well_laid_lawn> edit the settings for the user and it should be saved...
[09:13] <Ironbeard> yeah, sounds right
[09:15] <well_laid_lawn> for a server I would have a user that runs next to nothing
[09:16] <Ironbeard> yeah, that's what Im thinking, so the lag isn't as bad
[09:16] <well_laid_lawn> and there's settings to lighten what the server sends out like ncache
[09:17] <well_laid_lawn> and there's settings to lighten what the vncserver sends out like ncache
[09:17] <Ironbeard> yeah, I saw a mention of ncache in the vncserver output
[09:17] <Ironbeard> urg. now I need to add this guy do the sudoers..
[09:19] <well_laid_lawn> sudo usermod -g iirc
[09:20] <alejandro_> Hi people
[09:20] <well_laid_lawn> wheel group and admin etc
[09:21] <Ironbeard> well seeing how i've learned so many other things today, ill throw that on the list. thanks
[09:21] <Ironbeard> :)
[09:22] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[09:22] <well_laid_lawn> !hi alejandro_
[09:22] <well_laid_lawn> !hi | alejandro_
[09:23] <alejandro_> that I have a problem with lm-sensors to display the voltage and rpm
[09:24] <opij> could  anyone tell me how to install nautilus without breaking my system
[09:24] <alejandro_> porque no se muestra en GNU/linux but in windows se muestra todo in everest
[09:24] <alejandro_> bum
[09:24] <alejandro_> because it is not shown in GNU / linux in windows shown But all in everest
[09:25] <well_laid_lawn> !sensors
[09:25] <jussi> opij: why would installing nautilus break your system?  it will install half of gnome, but things shouldnt break...
[09:25] <well_laid_lawn> alejandro_: ^^
[09:25] <jussi> opij: also, is there a reason you want to install nautilus?
[09:25] <opij> jussi, whatwhatwhat? half of gnome?
[09:26] <well_laid_lawn> nautilus is gnomes file manager so...
[09:26] <opij> jussi, because i want a file manager with full featured previews of all types of files
[09:26] <jussi> opij: nautilus has a lot of GTK/gnome dpendencies, last time I checked...
[09:26] <jussi> opij: which previews is dolphin missing?
[09:27] <opij> jussi, you have to mouse over the files to get the previews
[09:27] <opij> and you cant get previews  of files  larger than 100mb
[09:28] <skramer_> how do I make windows transparent? I'm on KDE SC 4.5 using standard theme
[09:31] <jussi> opij: thats configurable last time I checked?
[09:31] <opij> jussi, you mean just 10 seconds ago? how did you do it?
[09:32] <jussi> opij: settings, configure dolphin, general, previews, don not create previews for files above;
[09:33] <opij> jussi, there's  no such setting
[09:34] <jussi> opij: ok, seems it must have been introduced between your version and 4.5 which I am running.
[09:34] <luis_> hello everyone good night i just manage to install kubuntu10.4 but it won't keep my screen configuration even using KrandRTray how can i leave my screen size the way i want help me please
[09:35] <opij> jussi thats not the only problem. i also have the problem that you dont get previews unless you mouse over the icon
[09:35] <jussi> opij: oh? my photos just appear...?
[09:35] <opij> what?
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> luis_: you can read the log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log   to find out what's up
[09:36] <jussi> opij: my photos previews just appear on opening the folder.
[09:36] <luis_> ok just a min
[09:36] <opij> jussi, what about videos?
[09:37] <jussi> opij: no, videos of course you need to mouse over.
[09:39] <luis_> this is what i have: http://pastebin.com/jy7nzemN
[09:41] <opij> jussi, are there a lot of kde dependencies you have to install to get dolphin running? because im not running kubuntu or ubuntu
[09:42] <opij> but am here for kubuntu software
[09:42] <well_laid_lawn> luis_: I would bet the default chosen for your setup has the sync or refresh rates wrong for your monitor
[09:42] <opij> and similar issues
[09:42] <opij> as i run lubuntu
[09:43] <luis_> the one it gives me every time i reboot is 800x600 and i need 1024x768 is there a way to make that permanent?
[09:43] <opij> jussi, does konqueror have video thumbnails?
[09:44]  * jussi checks, but guesses it does. 
[09:45] <well_laid_lawn> luis_: I would make a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set the default in there
[09:45] <jussi> opij: it appears to...
[09:45] <luis_> can you tell me how to do that please?
[09:46] <opij> opij, what appears to? dolphin appears to have a lot of kde dependencies?
[09:46] <luis_> sorry i am kinda new on this system and i am still trying to adjust to this
[09:47] <opij> jussi, or konqueror has  video thumbnails?
[09:48] <jussi> opij: konqueror appears to have video thumbnails ;O)
[09:48] <opij> jussi, and dolphin doesnt have video thumbnails?
[09:49] <well_laid_lawn> luis_: easiest way is to google   xorg.conf "your-video-card" - lspci | grep -i vga   to find your vid card
[09:49] <opij> thats messed up!
[09:49] <jussi> opij: yes, it does have thumbnails..
[09:49] <luis_> ok thanx
[09:49] <jussi> both do
[09:50] <jussi> opij: dolphin has thumnails and a little player in the sidebar that you can watch a preview in.
[09:51] <opij> jussi, neither are working on my system
[09:53] <jussi> opij: have you checked that the correct type of files are selected in the dialog I told you about before?
[09:53] <jussi> opij: Im rebooting, see you soon
[09:53] <opij> ok
[09:54] <skramer_> I have a problem with the small window previews after the upgrade to KDE SC 4.5, instead of the correct preview I see white rectangles with some strange CGA colours inside
[09:54] <skramer_> in 4.4 I could see the full & correct preview... anybody else has such problem?
[09:58] <jussi> skramer_: I did have that issue, when running the noveau drivers, but with the nvidia I dont have such an issue.
[09:59] <skramer_> jussi: hmm... I don't have NVidia, though. My laptop has Intel graphics card...
[09:59] <jussi> skramer_: curious. Im not sure what the issue is
[09:59] <jussi> perhaps ask in #kde?
[10:00] <skramer_> jussi: sure, thank you
[10:00] <jussi> right, Im disappearing. laters
[10:00] <opij> jussi, i still cant see the thumbnails with actual stills from the videos
[10:01] <jussi> opij: settings, configure dolphin, general, previews - is video ticked in there? (or wait, did you not have that section)
[10:01] <opij> i didnt have that section
[10:02] <jussi> opij: Im sorry, I need to go and I dont have your version, so its a bit hard to give you help. my apologies.
[10:03] <opij> :(
[10:03] <opij> ok
[10:03] <opij> ill see you later hopefully
[10:13] <ArGGu^^> opij install mplayerthumbs
[10:14] <opij> thanks ArGGu^^ !
[10:14] <opij> what if the video cant be played in mplayer?
[10:14] <ArGGu^^> then there is video in the settings->configure dolphin->general->previews
[10:15] <slow-motion> hi
[10:15] <opij> I just dont see it
[10:15] <ArGGu^^> opij well I think it can not then create thumbnail, but I have not seen video file that mplayer does not play.
[10:16] <ArGGu^^> opij you installed the mplayerthumbs?
[10:16] <ArGGu^^> and close all dolphin windows
[10:16] <ArGGu^^> and open dolphin
[10:16] <ArGGu^^> it should be there after that
[10:25] <opij> ArGGu^^, that fixed it. thanks.
[10:36] <Dephyled> hi
[10:43] <phoenix_> what is the latest kopete version
[10:46] <well_laid_lawn> !info kopete
[10:48] <phoenix_> well_laid_lawn: what is the version?
[10:49] <well_laid_lawn> Version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu4.1 (lucid)
[10:49] <phoenix_> well_laid_lawn: that is wrong
[10:49] <well_laid_lawn> I didn't do it...
[10:50] <phoenix_> well_laid_lawn: for kde 4.5 the version i last used is 1.0.80
[10:50] <phoenix_> well_laid_lawn: i would like to know the latest nightly build version
[10:51] <well_laid_lawn> phoenix_: 4.5 isn't in lucid
[10:51] <well_laid_lawn> !ppa
[10:52] <phoenix_> well_laid_lawn: can you direct me to a page where i can see the changelog of kopete, the kopete webpage is not maintained
[10:52] <well_laid_lawn> phoenix_: and I guess the !info botlink returns the ubuntu version number not the actual kopete one
[10:53] <phoenix_> well_laid_lawn: ya
[10:53] <well_laid_lawn> phoenix_: I wouldn't know where to look  - maybe #kde ...?
[10:54] <phoenix_> well_laid_lawn: i will be back in a moment
[10:54] <well_laid_lawn> k
[11:07] <phoenix_> well_laid_lawn: the people in kopete channel say that the latest version is 1.0.80 and there is no other latest version. they say that there are less developers commited to kopete and so the progress is very poor
[11:09] <skramer_> is it possible to change to another tab of a window without having to click it? I could not find where to configure it, though...
[11:16] <Rocko23_> hy
[11:17] <Rocko23_> anybody here
[11:17] <Rocko23_> ?
[11:19] <Tm_T> Rocko23_: yes, plenty of us
[11:19] <Rocko23_> can you help me with smth?
[11:20] <Tm_T> Rocko23_: just state your issue clearly and with all relevant details and who can will help
[11:20] <Rocko23_> linux is smth new for me and i just need a little help
[11:21] <Rocko23_> i just want to install gnome to make linux a windows look
[11:21] <Rocko23_> to be more simple for me
[11:21] <Rocko23_> and i don know how to install it
[11:22] <Rocko23_> i have kubuntu with latest updates
[11:22] <Rocko23_> (i thin)
[11:22] <Rocko23_> think*
[11:23] <Rocko23_> so anybody there who knows what i must do....
[11:23] <Rocko23_> ?
[11:23] <Rocko23_> :D
[11:24] <well_laid_lawn> phoenix_: seems if you use kde 4.4 or 4.5 you will have the same version then
[11:25] <phoenix_> well_laid_lawn: ya
[11:26] <Rocko23_> so?....some help from anyone?
[11:26] <Tm_T> Rocko23_: patience (:
[11:27] <Rocko23_> ok
[11:27] <well_laid_lawn> and !enter
[11:27] <Tm_T> Rocko23_: there's several ways: one is simply by using package manager to install "ubuntu-desktop" package
[11:29] <Rocko23_> if you can tell me the steps.... i appreciate
[11:30] <Rocko23_> as i told you.... i´m not familiary with linux
[11:32] <Tm_T> Rocko23_: open the k-menu, launch System Settings, from there, pick "Add and Remove Software"
[11:33] <Rocko23_> done
[11:35] <Tm_T> now you have the place to install and remove applications in front of you (:)
[11:38] <Rocko23_> step 2?
[11:38] <Rocko23_> :P
[11:38] <Tm_T> Rocko23_: btw, strange that you want to have gnome to get windows look, as it looks about like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Ubuntu_10.04_screenshot.png
[11:39] <Tm_T> Rocko23_: next step would be to use search to find the package you want to install and choose it to be installed... and it should be straightforward from there
[11:39] <Rocko23_> ok
[11:39] <Rocko23_> i did it and waiting to install
[11:41] <Rocko23_> but the pic you linked it, it doesn´t look like mine
[11:41] <Tm_T> Rocko23_: you're now in KDE, and that pic is from GNOME
[11:41] <Rocko23_> aaa...ok
[11:42] <Rocko23_> but i made smth stupid....... the menu bar is not there anymore
[11:43] <Rocko23_> what can i do to put it back on screen
[11:43] <Rocko23_> i have kubuntu 10.04 and is a little different then ubuntu
[11:50] <Surunveri> hi
[11:51] <Rocko23_> hy
[11:52] <Surunveri> could someone help me out installing this game called ADOM on kubuntu
[11:52] <Surunveri> I read the readme file but i didnt really understand
[11:52] <Surunveri> :D
[11:53] <Rocko23_> i´d love to...but i am a newbie to
[11:58] <James147> Surunveri: what is ADOM?
[11:59] <Surunveri> it's a game :D
[11:59] <Surunveri> there's a linux version of it
[11:59] <Surunveri> but i dont know how to start/install it
[11:59] <br14n4b4nks> afternoon all
[12:00] <br14n4b4nks> i have some probs playing 1080p
[12:00] <br14n4b4nks> its prolly my video card getting to old ...
[12:00] <James147> Surunveri: would help if we had a link or something :)
[12:00] <br14n4b4nks> i have HD2600XT
[12:00] <Surunveri> http://www.adom.de/adom/download.php3
[12:00] <Riddell> Kubuntu lucid.1 candidates needing testing, do join us in #ubuntu-testing and #kubuntu-devel if you can help
[12:02] <br14n4b4nks> or could it be a codec problem ??
[12:02] <rousing> hi
[12:02] <br14n4b4nks> im on kubuntu 10.04
[12:02] <Peace-> br14n4b4nks: what?
[12:02] <br14n4b4nks> i have stuttering 1080p playing
[12:03] <Peace-> you see the video?
[12:03] <br14n4b4nks> i was wondering if it is my video card or a codec problem
[12:03] <rousing> i have lucid on ly laptop, i've finally succeeded to install kubuntu but this time i have first installed ubuntu and then kubuntu-desktop (got lot of problems when installing kubuntu directly)
[12:03] <Peace-> if you see the video it's not codec
[12:03] <br14n4b4nks> yeah but high cpu
[12:03] <br14n4b4nks> and not fluent playing
[12:03] <Peace-> welll that could be driver problem
[12:03] <Peace-> video i mean
[12:03] <br14n4b4nks> yeah i guess so
[12:03] <Peace-> vlc ?
[12:03] <br14n4b4nks> its from 2007
[12:03] <br14n4b4nks> yeah
[12:04] <Peace-> try to change output diver on vlc settings
[12:04] <rousing> i'd like to know why the network doesnt recognise me to enable wifi connection please, notice that everything just work perfectly under gnome (ethernet + wifi)
[12:04] <Peace-> try with xvideo
[12:04] <Peace-> or other
[12:04] <br14n4b4nks> Peace-, ok thx
[12:04] <br14n4b4nks> gonna give it a try
[12:04] <Rocko23_> hey...some help?
[12:04] <Rocko23_> trying to make linux with a windows xp look
[12:04] <Peace-> rousing: your wifi is enabled there is a button ?
[12:05] <Peace-> on your laptoop^
[12:05] <Rocko23_> and i didn´t succide
[12:05] <Peace-> Rocko23_: there a package called vista or vistar
[12:05] <rousing> Peace- yes but the button isn't recignised by the system
[12:05] <Peace-> rousing: well give me iwconfig
[12:05] <Peace-> on paste
[12:05] <Peace-> !paste
[12:05] <rousing> Peace- under ubuntu it works without any manipulation of the button
[12:05] <Peace-> rousing: iwconfig
[12:06]  * Peace- has few time guys
[12:06] <Peace-> do it faster
[12:06] <rousing> Peace-, eth1      IEEE 802.11  Access Point: Not-Associated
[12:06] <rousing>           Link Quality:5  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[12:06] <rousing>           Rx invalid nwid:0  invalid crypt:0  invalid misc:0
[12:06] <rousing> Peace-, wanted to use pastebin
[12:06] <Peace-> rousing: use paste
[12:07] <Peace-> that is only eth1
[12:07] <rousing> Peace-, http://pastebin.com/ABPd9GZ2
[12:08] <rousing> Peace-, as i have said, wifi + ethernet are working perfectly under gnome
[12:09] <rousing> Peace-, from dmesg
[12:09] <rousing> Peace-, eth0: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xffffc90000672000, 00:26:b9:15:f1:10, XID 081000c0 IRQ 36
[12:09] <rousing> Peace-, eth1: Broadcom BCM4315 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 5.60.48.36
[12:10] <rousing> Peace-, any idea ?
[12:10] <br14n4b4nks> Peace-, xvideo seems to run way more smoother :D
[12:10] <br14n4b4nks> thx for the tip
[12:12] <br14n4b4nks> Peace-, any clue how i could fix wmap audio on kubuntu 10.04 amd64 ??
[12:12] <br14n4b4nks> i tried about anything
[12:13] <Surunveri> so there's this game i'd like to install.. it says taht you can just type a command and it starts but it has to be placed in a path variable
[12:13] <Surunveri> or something
[12:13] <br14n4b4nks> i don't want to switch back to windows ...
[12:13] <Peace-> rousing: now i see
[12:14] <rousing> Peace-, help please :(
[12:14] <Peace-> rousing: it seems your wifi is not enabled
[12:14] <Peace-> rousing: try to do enable it
[12:14] <Peace-> with the button
[12:15] <Peace-> then iwconfig again
[12:15] <James147> Surunveri: "echo $PATH" will tell you allthe locations the OATH varible knows about
[12:16] <rousing> Peace-, wiki key isn't recognized but lucid, i have pushed it many times and iwconfig to see if something change, but nothing change
[12:16] <Surunveri> kk
[12:16] <Peace-> lspci | grep -i Network
[12:17] <Peace-> rousing: in your iwconfig seems there is not a wifi enabled
[12:17] <Peace-> maybe on the bios is enabled?
[12:17] <Peace-> are you sure ?
[12:17] <Peace-> br14n4b4nks: wmap?
[12:17] <Peace-> xD
[12:18] <James147> Surunveri: this will tell you how you can add places to your PATH varible: http://serverfault.com/questions/44275/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path-in-ubuntu
[12:18] <rousing> Peace-, sure i can disconnect kde session and log in gnome session i'll get wifi
[12:18] <br14n4b4nks> its windows media player codec ??
[12:18] <rousing> Peace-, eth1 is my wireless interface
[12:18] <br14n4b4nks> vlc can't play it ...
[12:18] <Peace-> rousing: eth1?
[12:18] <Peace-> mmm that strange
[12:18] <Peace-> eth= ethernet
[12:19] <Peace-> should be
[12:19] <rousing> Peace-, see lshw -C network
[12:19] <Peace-> anyway
[12:19] <Peace-> sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[12:19] <rousing> Peace-, http://pastebin.com/78fDE0Rw
[12:20] <rousing> Peace-, eth1      Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument
[12:21] <rousing> Peace-, i'll go under gnome and test again, give me a sec please
[12:27] <rousing> hi again
[12:28] <rousing> Peace-, in fact, i have played with wifi button and now i can see the network
[12:36] <rousing> Peace-, still not able to connect :(
[12:40] <Peace-> rousing: but...
[12:40] <Peace-> rousing: iwconfig ?
[12:40] <Peace-> man i have to go 10 minutes left
[12:43] <rousing> Peace-, http://pastebin.com/xVrDZJY8
[12:43] <rousing> Peace-, sorry
[12:43] <rousing> now i can scan network using sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[12:43] <rousing> Peace-, and it shows me the available wifi networks
[12:44] <rousing> Peace-, http://imagebin.ca/view/8rW2CwV.html is a screen showing that my wifi is 100% but i don"t know why i can't connect
[12:46] <rousing> strange
[12:47] <Peace-> rousing: install wicd if you get problem with knetworkmanager
[12:47] <Peace-> sorry man i have few time
[12:47] <Peace-> :(
[12:47] <rousing> thank you mr, and good day
[12:47] <Peace-> buti suggest to disagle wep wap protection
[12:47] <Peace-> try to connect without that
[12:48] <rousing> ok
[12:48] <rousing> Peace-, dont bother yourself with my questions :) thanks a lot
[12:48] <Peace-> then if you are able to connect try to se better your wep wpa psk protection
[12:48] <Peace-> seee ya
[12:48] <rousing> Peace-, see you
[13:47] <nicekiwi9> the brightness controls in KDE arnt changing my screen brightness when I tell it to
[13:47] <nicekiwi9> ?
[13:59] <nicekiwi9> does ayone ever talk in here?
[13:59] <rousing> hi
[14:00] <James147> nicekiwi9: people do when they have a question or know the answer to one :)
[14:00] <rousing> i've finally removed ubuntu-desktop and its dependency since i've wifi working
[14:00] <nicekiwi9> sigh... then ubuntu boats much and knows little..
[14:00] <rousing> the last problem i have is that kdm wont start automatically, i have to run sudo service kdm start each time manually :(
[14:00] <nicekiwi9> boasts*
[14:00] <rousing> how to start kdm automatically please ?
[14:02] <nicekiwi9> how bout this one, when I stretch the default panel all the way acrros the screen half of it turns black?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:10] <FlashDeluxe038> hi there! ive got a problem, i want to use a bluetooth headset and i try to connect via btsco, but if i execute the command btsco -v macadress i get the error "Error: control open (hw:1): No such file or directory Error: Can't find device. Bail ". Can anybody help me?
[14:24] <CinLung> hello
[14:24] <CinLung> is there anyone who can explain the difference of ubuntu/kubuntu server vs desktop?
[14:24] <CinLung> Is there feature differences?
[14:25] <CinLung> hello
[14:25] <James147> CinLung: the server version dosnt come with a gui by default...
[14:25] <CinLung> Hi James
[14:25] <CinLung> in term of features
[14:26] <CinLung> are there big differences other than UI
[14:26] <bazhang> CinLung, no UI with server
[14:26] <CinLung> is the UI really the only differences between server and desktop?
[14:26] <bazhang> just command line
[14:26] <CinLung> what about server features
[14:27] <James147> CinLung: I think the server versions some with an optimised kernal for server stuff :) and the installation of the server version is designed around making it easier to setup servery stuff
[14:27] <James147> CinLung: other then that they both share the same repos so have access to teh same packages so are capable of doing the same thing :)
[14:27] <CinLung> James147, are there big differences int he kernel optimization for server?
[14:28] <CinLung> I wanted to install ubuntu but I would love to have some gui
[14:28] <CinLung> since I came from windows environment
[14:28] <James147> CinLung: I dont know the details, I only read something a long time ago that mentioned differences in teh kernals
[14:28] <CinLung> I want to move to Linux
[14:28] <CinLung> James147: So, do you think I would better install server edition and then install gnome on top of it?
[14:28] <James147> CinLung: Then I would start by installing kubuntu or ubuntu and getting use to the command line first
[14:29] <CinLung> I am used to the command line in linux, althought not too expert, but I am concerned with the features and performances
[14:29] <James147> CinLung: It wont make much difference in terms of usage... the desktop versio will be eaiser to getinto
[14:30] <CinLung> If the server vs desktop only differs in UI, then I would rather install the desktop
[14:30] <CinLung> seems prettier :)
[14:31] <James147> CinLung: you can also install the server kernal on the desktop if you want to... but thats going to be the largest difference in them
[14:32] <James147> CinLung: but generally the server version is designed for a headless server... if your jsut throwing a gui on it you may as well just go for the desktop version :)
[14:34] <FlashDeluxe038> mhhh does nobody have an idea in my case? :(
[14:37] <nebula> help me !
[14:37] <James147> !help | nebula
[14:37] <nebula> the best ftp client for ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:37] <James147> nebula: dolphin
[14:37] <nebula> James147,
[14:37] <nebula> ?
[14:37] <James147> nebula: o wait.. ubuntu? ask in #ubuntu
[14:38] <nebula> okey ! :)
[14:39] <BluesKaj> CinLung, the server edition comes with apache and mysql optimised for databases etc ...I have ubuntu server but I installed a desktop on it since I like using gui for running movies and music on our audio/video system
[14:42] <James147> BluesKaj: dose it come with them installed? I think you have to opt into the LAMP stull on the server edition :) you can also install them from the desktop version (i presume the same versions... as they use the same repos)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hi James147 , he was asking the same ftp question in ubuntu already
[14:42] <James147> so server + gui  is about the same to desktop + LAMP....
[14:43] <CinLung> James147: What is LAMP. Sorry I am new about LAMP
[14:43] <BluesKaj> James147, one gets the options for lamp etc during the install...initially I was going to setup a domain server , but it a rather daunting task for my skills
[14:43] <CinLung> BluesKaj: is there any archive I can read about my question
[14:44] <James147> BluesKaj: you get the option, but its jsut as easy to install it on a desktop version :)
[14:44] <CinLung> BluesKaj: I need to set the server as domain server or NIS Server as well. Do I use LAMP
[14:44] <CinLung> ?
[14:45] <James147> CinLung: LAMP is the web server stuff  (Linux Apache MySql PHP) its basically an easy way to install everything you ened for it
[14:45] <BluesKaj> CinLung, http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[14:47] <BluesKaj> James147, yes I'm aware one can install all server apps quite easily
[15:33] <FlashDeluxe> hi@all! Has anybody got experiences with bluetooth headset and can tell me how he connects to his/er headset?
[15:48] <CinLung> James147 & BluesKaj, Thank you for the information on LAMP and the ubuntu desktop. One last thing I need to ask is: is there any documentation on what things being maximized (on kernel side, etc) for server version of ubuntu vs the desktop version
[15:49] <James147> maximized?
[15:50] <CinLung> Sorry... I mean optimized
[15:51] <James147> CinLung: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq   might tell you :)
[15:51] <CinLung> thanks James
[15:52] <CinLung> is there also any docs on how to make ubuntu/kubuntu as NIS or domain server so that other ubuntu client can login using their accounts stored in the server?
[15:55] <CinLung> James147: I guess I better install ubuntu server and add Gnome on top of it to utilized the server optimized kernel
[15:55] <vbgunz> can someone explain whats up here? in konqueror on 4.5 khtml part I see a huge comment box. switching to webkit, its a white page http://alternet.disqus.com/bed_bug_infestation_is_scaring_millions_of_americans_personal_health_alternet/reply.html?f=alternet&t=bed_bug_infestation_is_scaring_millions_of_americans_personal_health_alternet&ff=Arial%2CGeorgia%2CSans%20Serif&default_text=Type%20your%20comment%20here.&ifrs=&1281970454986#000900000000000000000001
[15:55] <James147> CinLung: or install the server kernal ontop of the desktop version
[15:56] <vbgunz> this happens not just on this site but on many sites
[15:56] <CinLung> oh.. how do I do that?
[15:56] <CinLung> Sorry this part is new to me
[15:57] <vbgunz> damn, it even happens in firefox. wtf is going on?
[15:57] <James147> CinLung: install "linux-image-server"  :) that should get you the server kernal
[15:57] <James147> CinLung: the great thing about desktop vs server is that they share so much that it is easy to convert one to the other and back again :D
[15:59] <CinLung> oooooh
[15:59] <CinLung> so I just pop the desktop CD and then run installation with "linux-image-server" option... yes?
[16:00] <James147> vbgunz: on chroumium (webkit) i get a white page with some light coloured text at the top... and can type on the page :S
[16:01] <James147> CinLung: ... install the desktop edition... then when your on the new system install "linux-image-server"
[16:01] <CinLung> ooooooh
[16:01] <CinLung> ic ic
[16:01] <vbgunz> James147: funny thing is, this isn't the only site that shows this behavior sometimes, theres a new web widget or something breaking browsers I suppose. kind of sucks
[16:01] <James147> CinLung: linux-image-server is just a package that will install the server kernal... you need to install the system before you can install it :)
[16:02] <CinLung> 1. Install complete linux desktop, 2. Open the bash shell and type install "linux-image-server"
[16:02] <CinLung> is that the steps?
[16:02] <CinLung> I mean are those the steps
[16:03] <James147> CinLung: type into a terminal "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-image-server"
[16:03] <James147> (update will update the package lists so the package manager know aobut new packages and will get the latest version, then install will download and isntall it)
[16:04] <CinLung> oooh....
[16:04] <James147> (sudo will temporly run a program as root using your password... there si no root password by default and it is NOT advised to give it one... use sudo when you need root)
[16:04] <CinLung> bu that will require Internet connection to download the server kernel... is that right
[16:04] <CinLung> ?
[16:04] <James147> CinLung: yes
[16:05] <CinLung> Can I install server edition without LAMP and then add the desktop GUI instead? Internet connection in my country is rather slow. How big is the kernel anyway?
[16:06] <James147> CinLung: you would need to dl the GUI then... and I would think that the kernal is smaller then the GUI
[16:07] <CinLung> Oh IC IC.... got your point... thanks
[16:08] <James147> CinLung: the actual server kernal image is about 126M ... where as the whole of gnome or kde would be quite abit more :D
[16:08] <CinLung> btw... is there any guides on how to make ubuntu as domain server or as NIS? I want to make all the clients in my networks to sign in with the server first before using the computer. Just like in Windows domain environment
[16:08] <CinLung> ouch
[16:08] <CinLung> 126m is still big for me :)
[16:09] <James147> CinLung: it can... searching google should bring up a howto :D  (I think ubuntu is capable of active directory as well)
[16:09] <CinLung> can I predownload the kernel using web browser and then have my file downloader catch it for me? 126mb will cost me at least 3-4hours to download
[16:09] <James147> CinLung: yeah... but I would think its smaller then an entire GUI :) so the more effecent path
[16:10] <CinLung> can you predownload the kernel and then install it locally later?
[16:10] <James147> CinLung: you can... although you might ahve to get all the dependencys as well...
[16:11] <CinLung> Oooh... ic... so the best way is still to upgrade using ubuntu install feature... OK. I will try it first
[16:11] <James147> CinLung: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/linux-image-server
[16:12] <CinLung> regarding changing the Ubuntu as domain server or NIS server... I tried googling... So far have not found something that is really easy to apply... maybe you have a suggestion?
[16:13] <James147> CinLung: first link for "ubuntu NIS": https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo
[16:14] <James147> CinLung: and if you cant find something that "easy" to apply then it might not be an "easy" thing to do :S
[16:15] <James147> CinLung: you may want to look up "Active directory" instead... (although I dont know how easy that would be to set up)
[16:19] <CinLung> James147: I just googled and found this article about desktop vs server
[16:19] <CinLung> http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3715071/Ubuntu-Server--Kernel-Configuration-Considerations.htm
[16:20] <CinLung> according to this article there is not much differences in desktop vs server kernel. In fact, if I want to use the server for multimedia purposes, I better install the 64 bit version of desktop
[16:20] <CinLung> is that true
[16:21] <CinLung> server 64 bit vs desktop 64 bit kernel not too much differences?
[16:21] <CinLung> Btw... I used my PC as both the server and some minor multimedia activities
[16:21] <CinLung> most ly for development in java
[16:22] <CinLung> and for file sharing and printer sharing
[16:23] <pixel__> grazz no me deja actualizar el sistema del 9.1 al 10 y  no se descargan los controladores de la tarjeta de video
[16:24] <bazhang> !it
[16:24] <pixel__> ni la wireless,  para  laptop studio 1555
[16:24] <pixel__> dell
[16:24] <James147> CinLung: wouldnt have thourght there would be that much of a difference in them so that sounds about right
[16:25] <James147> CinLung: I think most of the optimisations are for large scale server networks... Your not really going to notice a difference in a home system I would think
[16:25] <slug> hi, i'm using the lucid backports and trying to install an application. I get the following error:
[16:25] <slug> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:25] <slug>   libqt4-assistant: Depends: libqt4-network (= 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5) but 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu3~lucid1~ppa4 is to be installed
[16:25] <slug>                     Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5) but 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu3~lucid1~ppa4 is to be installed
[16:25] <slug> E: Broken packages
[16:25] <FloodBotK2> slug: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:26] <slug> any idea if I can solve it?
[16:26] <James147> slug: what are you trying to install? and I assume you have upgraded your system to kde 4.5
[16:26] <slug> James147: yeah. I'm trying to install paraview, that i had working before
[16:27] <slug> i wanted to test kde 4.5, so this was the reason i added the backports ppa.
[16:28] <James147> slug: but have you upgraded to kde 4.5?
[16:28] <CinLung> James147: thank you for the advice... one more thing... is there any way I can contact the ubuntu channel admin to lift my ban? I accidentally pressed Cping on my mac ircle app and pinged all the users in the channel and thus I was banned.
[16:28] <James147> ahh, yeah... your problem is that it wants an older version of qt... where as the backports and kde4.7 want a newer version
[16:28] <slug> James147: yes,. i did. apt-get dist-upgrade, using it now
[16:29] <slug> James147: yep, that's why i posted that error message, which is the relevant part :)
[16:30] <slug> James147: i would assume that different versions of qt could coexist
[16:30] <James147> slug: you might wnat to tell Riddell about that... :)
[16:31] <James147> slug: they can... but the upgrade upgraded the qt version rather then installing another along side...
[16:32] <Riddell> slug: you need to remove libqt4-assistant
[16:33] <slug> Riddell: apt-get remove libqt4-assistant (...) Package libqt4-assistant is not installed, so not removed
[16:35] <CinLung> James147: James. I read your article about NIS, in that article there is another article that says that NYS is better... Is that the new NIS??
[16:35] <CinLung> Should I use NYS instead of NIS
[16:35] <slug> Riddell: any thoughts ?
[16:36] <CinLung> NIS+ is no longer developed.
[16:36] <slug> CinLung: i would run ldap+kerberos
[16:36] <CinLung> slug: can that perform the same thing as NIS and windows domain?
[16:36] <James147> CinLung: I dont know much about NIS or NYS... so I cant answer that
[16:37] <CinLung> thank you james
[16:38] <slug> CinLung: yeah, but if you are asking that question it might take you a while to setup everything correctly :)
[16:38] <CinLung> slug: can you point me to a guide on how to incorporate LDAP+Kerberos...
[16:38] <Riddell> slug: if libqt4-assistant isn't installed you shouldn't have a problem
[16:39] <gage> Hello everyone, I need some help using my jailbroken ipod touch on kubuntu, I've installed ifuse and libimobiledevice and it is still not showing up in dolphin
[16:39] <slug> Riddell: apt-get install paraview gives me the issue
[16:40] <slug> CinLung: a google search for ldap kerberos should give you some ideas. the first link is "Replacing NIS with Kerberos and LDAP HOWTO"
[16:40] <Riddell> slug: yes, I'm afraid paraview needs qt assistant which has been removed by upstream qt
[16:40] <Riddell> so it won't work with that PPA
[16:41] <CinLung> slug: got it... thanks
[16:42] <slug> Riddell: is packages.ubuntu.com up to date with the upcoming maverick distro? i searched for paraview and it doesn't show up. does that mean it would be possible to install it on that release?
[16:43] <slug> would=won't
[16:45] <Riddell> no packages.ubuntu.com isn't up to date with maverick, paraview isn't installable on maverick currently
[16:47] <kubuntu> hello
[16:47] <kubuntu> I think I broke something
[16:47] <kubuntu> just installed KDE 4.5 and it works very smooth
[16:47] <kubuntu> but
[16:47] <kubuntu> then someone told me to change some files
[16:48] <kubuntu> and now it doesn't work
[16:48] <kubuntu> to specify it a bit more:
[16:48] <kubuntu> the wireless network (wlan0) works, but the wired one (eth0) doesn't
[16:48] <Surunveri> hi
[16:48] <kubuntu> when I click on network manager -> connect to wired nothing happends
[16:48] <Surunveri> how can i search for a file
[16:48] <kubuntu> it doesn't even crash, as it uses to
[16:48] <Surunveri> if it''s not shown in the alt+f2 menu with kubunt
[16:49] <kubuntu> Surunveri: sudo find / -name *filename*
[16:49] <kubuntu> Surunveri: I'm sure there are easier ways, but that works
[16:49] <ArGGu^^> Surunveri opend dolphin and press ctrl+f
[16:49] <kubuntu> any idea about what the problem can be? I can paste the content of any files if necessary
[16:49] <James147> Surunveri: in dolphin press Crtl+F and use that (note you need to use the wild card *)
[16:49] <ArGGu^^> *open
[16:50] <Surunveri> kk
[16:50] <James147> kubuntu: the first thing would be tell us what files you changed  :)
[16:50] <kubuntu>  /etc/network/interfaces
[16:50] <kubuntu> but
[16:50] <kubuntu> I changed back to what I think is rightr
[16:51] <James147> kubuntu: can you pastebin it?
[16:51] <kubuntu> ok
[16:51] <kubuntu> http://fixthebugs.se/21
[16:51] <kubuntu> I changed some more, please hang on while I check my bash_history
[16:52] <kubuntu>  /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:52] <kubuntu> that file
[16:52] <kubuntu> in there
[16:53] <kubuntu> 70-persistant-net.rules
[16:53] <kubuntu> should I pastebin that one too?
[16:53] <slug> Riddell: thanks. now this one is probably a faq: is there a easy way to revert back to before adding the backports ppa?
[16:53] <slug> kubuntu: you are missing the entry for the wired ethernet on that file
[16:54] <slug> kubuntu: although i don't have it either ;)
[16:54] <slug> kubuntu: are you using knetworkmanager ?
[16:54] <kubuntu> slug: yes
[16:54] <slug> what's on that 70-persistant-net.rules?
[16:55] <kubuntu> slug: http://fixthebugs.se/22
[16:55] <Riddell> slug: there's no easy way I'm afraid, you probably need to go to a linux terminal, apt-get remove libqtcore4, remove the PPA from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[16:56] <kubuntu> ifconfig: http://fixthebugs.se/23
[16:56] <kubuntu> Riddell: I don't think it's because of kde 4.5
[16:56] <kubuntu> because
[16:56] <kubuntu> the laptop I am on now has wlan and wired too and it works
[16:56] <slug> kubuntu: what does ifconfig eth0 tell you?
[16:56] <kubuntu> running kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.5
[16:57] <slug> kubuntu: send me on /msg so not to clutter the #
[16:57] <kubuntu> ok
[16:57] <slug> kubuntu: and also ethtool eth0
[16:57] <kubuntu> okey
[16:57] <kubuntu> I need to tranfer the files with my USB stick, so it can take some time
[16:58] <kubuntu> ethtool isn't installed :/
[16:59] <slug> kubuntu: do this instead: ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0
[16:59] <Surunveri> it's a bit stupid but. I got this Linux version of game but it doesnt seem to work very well. Maybe it would be best to get dosbox and a dos version... that makes sense? :D
[16:59] <gage> Hello everyone, I need some help using my jailbroken ipod touch on kubuntu, I've installed ifuse and libimobiledevice and it is still not showing up in dolphin
[17:00] <kubuntu> slug: ok
[17:00] <kubuntu> slug: is the program endless?
[17:00] <slug> kubuntu: is the network wire connected?
[17:00] <Surunveri> sudo apt-get install doxbox
[17:00] <Surunveri> ops :D
[17:00] <Surunveri> sorry =)
[17:00] <kubuntu> slug: nope
[17:00] <kubuntu> slug: I should connect it, right?
[17:01] <slug> kubuntu: humm, well, connect the wire ; does knetworkmanager connect ?
[17:02] <kubuntu> slug: nope
[17:02] <slug> kubuntu: ok, so do the ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0
[17:02] <kubuntu> slug: it doesn't do anything, doesn't freeze, doesn't connect
[17:02] <kubuntu> okey
[17:02] <kubuntu> I'll disconnect from here then
[17:02] <kubuntu> brb
[17:05] <kubuntu> it works now, thank you! :)
[17:05] <kubuntu> even though knetworkmanager seems not to care about it
[17:05] <kubuntu> :S
[17:06] <kubuntu> dhcp command gave: http://fixthebugs.se/24
[17:06] <kubuntu> and after that, ifconfig gave: http://fixthebugs.se/25
[17:07] <kubuntu> I'll try to reboot with the cable in
[17:12] <kubuntu> ok, so, I am on the computer which just started working
[17:12] <kubuntu> who helped me?
[17:12] <kubuntu> forgot it
[17:12] <slug> kubuntu: me?
[17:13] <kubuntu> slug: oh, yes, right!
[17:13] <kubuntu> thank you!
[17:13] <kubuntu> btw, since I installed drivers for my video card, I have to press CTRL + SHIFT + F12 twice to activate the flashy effects, is there any way around this?
[17:17] <kubuntu> however, slug, have you got a paypal account?
[17:17] <kubuntu> perhaps this is better in query
[17:18] <gage> Hello everyone, I need some help using my jailbroken ipod touch on kubuntu, I've installed ifuse and libimobiledevice and it is still not showing up in dolphin
[17:20] <slug> kubuntu: i do, but no thanks ;) you can donate do kubuntu i guess ;)
[17:20] <slug> kubuntu: what card do you have?
[17:21] <slug> gage: does your device show on lsusb ?
[17:21] <gage> slug: yes
[17:21] <gage> slug: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 05ac:1299 Apple, Inc.
[17:22] <slug> gage: i don't own that device, so i can just try to give you general help with it
[17:22] <gage> slug: thats fine I just need help :/
[17:22] <gage> slug: I appreciate it :)
[17:22] <slug> gage: did you follow some howto / tutorial?
[17:23] <gage> gage: most reccomend installing libimobiledevice and ifuse and then it will just magically show up in dolphin, but it doesn't work
[17:23] <gage> slug: well most use normal ubuntu so nautilus, but I didn't think there
[17:23] <gage> slug: 'd be a difference
[17:24] <slug> gage: did you follow something like: http://www.ghabuntu.com/2009/09/ifuse-mount-your-iphoneipod-touch-in.html
[17:25] <slug> gage: what does the command groups tell you?
[17:25] <slug> gage: look at "Helge" comment on that post
[17:25] <gage> slug: I'm not part of the fuse group
[17:25] <gage> slug: let me try that
[17:27] <slug> gage: are you running lucid?
[17:28] <gage> slug: yes
[17:28] <slug> gage: did you follow helge instructions?
[17:28] <gage> slug: yes and it mounted but only for superuser
[17:28] <slug> gage: that's good enough. so it's working, basically now?
[17:29] <slug> gage: you can use the newgrp command to change to the fuse group
[17:29] <gage> slug: ummm it's not showing up per se
[17:30] <slug> gage: if you follow the instructions, does it show anything on /media/iPod ?
[17:30] <frxstrem> is there a way to disable the Caps Lock key in Kubuntu, as I was able to in Ubuntu?
[17:30] <gage> slug: I mean like, it shows up but how can I sync music, etc?
[17:31] <slug> frxstrem: yes
[17:31] <frxstrem> slug: how?
[17:31] <slug> frxstrem: only for kde ?
[17:32] <gage> slug: OK use gtkpod
[17:32] <gage> slug: thanks for your help man :D
[17:32] <frxstrem> slug: doesn't really matter, I never use it, and noone else uses this computer, and it's just annoying me when I hit it by accident and THIS HAPPENS -.-
[17:32] <slug> gage: welcome.
[17:33] <slug> frxstrem: you can easily configure it through kde. let me get the menus. i usually switch it to control.
[17:33] <frxstrem> slug: that's what I did in Gnome - and that's what I want to do now :)
[17:34] <slug> frxstrem: system settings -> Input devices -> keyboard -> advanced
[17:35] <slug> frxstrem: then you have 'capslock key behavior' and 'ctrl key position'
[17:35] <slug> in there you can disable caps lock and/or make it a ctrl key or whatever fits you better
[17:36] <frxstrem> dammit...I can't find "Input devices" in the system settings -.-
[17:37] <Hazamonzo> dang it kubuntu hates my bloody ATI card :(
[17:38] <frxstrem> slug: where do I find "Input devices"?
[17:39] <slug> frxstrem: which kde do you have ?
[17:39] <frxstrem> I'm not quite sure...
[17:39] <slug> frxstrem: go to any Help Menu
[17:39] <slug> frxstrem: about KDE
[17:40] <frxstrem> KDE 4.4.2
[17:40] <tom_> 4.4.2 doesn't have it
[17:40] <slug> tom_: do you know where it is? i know it has the same functionality, but i don't have kde 4.4 right now, only 4.5
[17:41] <tom_> i think it might be in input actions - looking as we speak
[17:44] <tom_> i haven't a clue where it it. i can tell you in LXDE but not KDE 4.4.2
[17:45] <tom_> frxstrem: it isn't in input actions or keyboard & mouse from what i saw
[17:45] <frxstrem> tom_: I know, I was looking there too
[17:47] <tom_> frxstrem: its in regional options
[17:48] <frxstrem> sometimes Kubuntu just makes very little sense ...
[17:49] <tom_> frxstrem: system settings > regional & language > keyboard layout > advanced
[17:50] <frxstrem> I found it...although it seemed like I had to activate keyboard layouts before I could use it...
[17:50] <tom_> you do
[17:51] <frxstrem> -.- NOW I DID SOMETHING AND CAPS LOCK IS ACTIVATED WHEN IT THE LIGHT IS OFF... -.-
[17:53] <slug> frxstrem: if you disable capslock, you need to put it into a sane state beforehand, which means off in your case.
[17:54] <frxstrem> but when it's off, that's when I get the capital letters...
[17:54] <tom_> you probably had it on when you disabled it
[17:55] <frxstrem> well, the light was off
[17:55] <slug> frxstrem: the capslock led light is controlled by the OS afaik.
[17:55] <frxstrem> well, it was off when it really should have been on, so when I pressed the Num Lock key I saw it turned itself on
[17:56] <frxstrem> there...now I fixed it
[17:56] <frxstrem> slug, tom_: thanks for the help :)
[17:57] <slug> frxstrem: welcome
[17:58] <tom_> np
[18:13] <hellslinger> I upgraded to kde 4.5 last night and OpenGL compositing doesn't work anymore on my nvidia card.. anyone know about this?
[18:15] <sidHart> hellslinger: you migt need to re-enable it or re-install as there were some xorg update?
[18:15] <hellslinger> I'm fairly certain no xorg updates happened
[18:16] <hellslinger> I specifically updated the kde packages only
[18:16] <hellslinger> Xrender still works, but OpenGL fails immediately
[18:19] <slug> hellslinger: what does nvidia-settings say?
[18:20] <slug> hellslinger: how about dmesg |grep NVIDIA
[18:20] <slug> hellslinger: i'm running 4.5 with nvidia card and GL composing
[18:21] <Sebas_> With Kubuntu 1.04 kpar2 is not installable anymore.. Is there a alternative for Kpar2??
[18:21] <hellslinger> dmesg | grep NVIDIA just says modules tains kernel and that the NVRM module is loaded, version 256.44
[18:22] <lambang> tttt
[18:22] <slug> hellslinger: how about nvidia-settings ? i'm running with that driver version too.
[18:22] <hellslinger> ok got nvidia-settings up
[18:23] <hellslinger> hmm, not sure what to look for here
[18:23] <hellslinger> ah ok
[18:24] <hellslinger> starting to see a problem here... no info on glx
[18:24] <hellslinger> and glxgears does not launch...
[18:25] <slug> hellslinger: you should check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to make sure the "nvidia" driver is being loaded instead of the "nv". and for any errors
[18:26] <hellslinger> righto.. I'll do that, thanks for the help! I assumed glx was still running OK
[18:26] <slug> hellslinger: i can send you my xorg.conf too
[18:38] <James147> slug: nvidia-xconfig  can generate a xorg.conf file for ndiaia cards
[18:39] <slug> James147: yeah, thanks, but i have a few extra settings concerning powermizer and stuff
[18:45] <luis_> hello guys i need your help, just made a fresh installation of kubuntu9.04 but everytime i want to logout takes me to a blanck screen then i have to shut down from power can somebody help me with this please?
[18:48] <kubian> luis_: why not 10.04?
[18:48] <luis_> because i cannot fix the screen res on kubuntu 10.04 it keeps back to 800x600
[19:01] <luis_> so anyone know how to fix this??? i already did that thin that says to install the gnome-screenserver reboot and then uninstall and it doesn't work, also the last one i was trying to do is to edit: /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf but that has nothing in there is just a white sheet, so please help
[19:08] <Peace-> luis_: here is kubuntu
[19:08] <Peace-> not ubuntu
[19:08] <Peace-> we don't support gnome stuff..
[19:08] <luis_> i have kubuntu
[19:08] <luis_> not ubuntu
[19:08] <Peace-> look at this #ubuntu
[19:08] <luis_> i just install kubuntu 9.04
[19:09] <Peace-> gdm is gnome
[19:09] <Peace-> and kubuntu i guess has not support anymore?
[19:09] <Peace-> 9.04 i mean
[19:09] <luis_> well i am trying to fix this but i just can't find anything on google and i was saying what i have done so far to fix this
[19:09] <luis_> that's why am asking if someone can help me to fix it
[19:10] <Peace-> well i read your old post
[19:10] <Peace-> now i understood
[19:11] <Peace-> video card?
[19:11] <Peace-> ati or nvidia?
[19:11] <Peace-> nvidia i guess
[19:13] <luis_> i have no nvidia card or ati
[19:13] <luis_> i think is intel
[19:13] <luis_> actually i wasnt' having this problem
[19:13] <luis_> anyway
[19:14] <luis_> this is driving me crazy y need the log out function work properly i have 2 users and i just can keep shuting dwon my computer from the power button
[19:14] <Peace-> luis_: ok
[19:14] <Peace-> now i will ttry something
[19:15] <luis_> let me ask you something
[19:15] <Peace-> luis_: try to read my blog here http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/bash-close-kde-with-bash-using-dbus/
[19:36] <robertzaccour> hey yall
[19:36] <robertzaccour> is rekonq ready for daily use yet?
[19:40] <slow-motion> hi
[19:44] <klaus__> Guten Abend
[20:13] <Surunveri> hi
[20:13] <Surunveri> I disabled the menu bar in the terminal. :D how can i get it back? :D
[20:15] <Peace-> Surunveri: mmm  CTRL SHIFT M
[20:15] <James147> Surunveri: in konsole? right click anywhere on it :)
[20:16] <Peace-> James147: xD yea
[20:16] <Surunveri> no that's not the one i mean
[20:16] <Surunveri> the other one
[20:16] <Surunveri> :D
[20:17] <James147> Surunveri: what other what?
[20:17] <Peace-> Xd+
[20:17] <Surunveri> the other menubar in terminal
[20:17] <James147> there is another menu bar? what terminal are you talking aobut?
[20:17] <Surunveri> when you start terminal by typing terminal
[20:17] <Surunveri> black window with gray borders
[20:17] <Surunveri> D:
[20:17] <Surunveri> there's a bar at the top of the window
[20:17] <James147> I get konsole ^^
[20:17] <Surunveri> which i removed by accident
[20:17] <Peace-> we use konsole
[20:18] <Peace-> .
[20:18] <Surunveri> and i dont know how to get it back
[20:18] <Surunveri> ok
[20:18] <Surunveri> so you dont know ? :D
[20:18] <FloodBotK2> Surunveri: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:18] <James147> Surunveri: are you in kde or gnome?
[20:18] <Peace-> well... we don't care a lots of non.kde software
[20:18] <Surunveri> KDE I think :D
[20:18] <James147> Peace-: :D
[20:18] <Peace-> konsole is the default terminal...
[20:18] <James147> Surunveri: what is the name of the program that you are running?
[20:18] <Peace-> i guess terminal
[20:19] <Peace-> but it's not installed by default from kubuntu iso
[20:19] <James147> is the gnome one called that? throught it was terminal-gnome :p
[20:20] <mistrynitesh> James147: gnome one is called gnome-terminal, if I remember correctly
[20:20] <James147> ^^ close enough :D
[20:20] <mistrynitesh> yeah!
[20:25]  * mistrynitesh wondering if Surunveri is talking about the byobu
[20:27] <Peace-> James147: xD
[20:28] <Surunveri> anyway it's the menubar that
[20:28] <Surunveri> has the new tab option
[20:28] <Surunveri> agh this is annoying
[20:28] <Surunveri> :D
[20:28] <FloodBotK2> Surunveri: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <James147> Surunveri: the tab bar then?
[20:29] <Surunveri> idk
[20:29] <Surunveri> maybe
[20:29] <Surunveri> how would i enable that if i had disabled it
[20:29] <Surunveri> ?
[20:29] <Surunveri> :D
[20:29] <FloodBotK2> Surunveri: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:30] <James147> Surunveri: depends on what program you are running...
[20:30] <Surunveri> i got it back now
[20:38] <Lynoure> Does anyone of you use gpodder in Kubuntu? I'd have a question about the icons.
[20:38] <luis__> hello guys again me, i like to ask: 1.- is it possible to upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04 or do i have to go first with 9.10?.   2.- if do the upgrade, will it be possible to keep my current screen resolution or i will loose it.   3.-right now my problem is that i have to user account so everytime i log out i get a blank(black) screen if do the upgrade will this be fixed? any one please??
[20:40] <luis__> two*
[20:40] <kubian> luis__: new install is best
[20:41] <frxstrem> is it possible to make a global shortcut that opens the terminal (or some other application) in Kubuntu? I used to do this in Gnome, but it annoys me that I can't figure out how to do it in KDE...
[20:41] <luis__> the reason is new installation gets me problems with my screen resolution and keeps changing back to 800x600
[20:42] <James147> frxstrem: you can using kmenuedit
[20:42] <frxstrem> James147: okay, thanks
[20:42] <luis__> oooh nice :) you are here James what do you think if i may ask James?
[20:46] <luis__> you know i got a better question i think :P what if get the config i currently have for my screen resol and copy exactly the same to a fresh new installation of lucy? will that work and if so, do i have to downgrade my grphic driver ? and if is so how do i do this? anyone KNows?
[20:46] <James147> luis__: you cant upgrade directly to 10.04 form 9.04 and I am not sure what will happen to your resalution
[20:46] <Lynoure> I guess none here uses gpodder.
[20:46] <luis__> well then i guess i have to try right?
[20:46] <James147> luis__: what config? /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[20:47] <luis__> i'll let you now in a min
[20:47] <administrator_> hi everyone
[20:48] <administrator_> WHO CAN HELP ME WITH INSTALLING Nvidia DRIVERS???
[20:48] <administrator_> PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
[20:48] <kubian> administrator_: no need to shout..
[20:49] <James147> !nvidia | administrator_
[20:49] <kubian> administrator_: plus it's not polite
[20:49] <luis__> ok James here it is : http://pastebin.com/i77XbjRP
[20:51] <James147> luis__: :) that should work in 10.04... but I dont know if it will help the resolution problem (you might need to edit to add in the resolutions you want... google should know how I dont know the specifics)
[20:52] <luis__> ok let's try once more and see what happens thanks a lot James
[21:04] <KidCamaleon> Driver Impressora Canon ip1300.  Alguem ja viu por ae? queria muitoo!!
[21:04] <KidCamaleon> Canon iP1300 Printer Driver. Anyone ever seen away?
[21:08] <nicon`> Hi all.
[21:08] <nicon`> Is there any option to install kde 4.5 on kubuntu 9.10?
[21:08] <nicon`> Tried to install it with ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging repo.
[21:08] <nicon`> But can't see nothing new from kde in upgrade.
[21:08] <FloodBotK2> nicon`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <nicon`> ;-)
[21:14] <alvin> nicon`: it's ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[21:15] <nicon`> alvin: i tried also backports.
[21:15] <nicon`> Still the same.
[21:23] <James147> nicon`: they only tend to do one upgrade during a release.... so you need to either find a nother ppa or compile from source
[21:23] <nicon`> Damnit.
[21:23] <James147> or upgrade to 10.04 :)
[21:23] <nicon`> James147: 10.04 sux, sorry ;-)
[21:24] <nicon`> I prefer to compile it by myself.
[21:26] <nicon`> Anyway... Thanks for help.
[21:26] <nicon`> Have a nice/good day/night.
[21:41] <dhq> i need help with 5.1sound in my laptop
[21:42] <dhq> i have 3 front 3.5mm ports
[21:42] <dhq> i used to be able to use it before
[21:42] <dhq> but after a fresh install of 10.04 it doesnt work
[21:43] <dhq> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[21:44] <JuJuBee__> MY aiu
[21:44] <JuJuBee__> My audio stopped working all of a sudden.  Can someone assist?
[21:59] <antiretorte> Hi out there
[22:00] <antiretorte> is there any SERIOUS way to get KDE PIM really working on 10.04 ???
[22:01] <antiretorte> started several times from clean installations, tried all the official faq and wondering if this is the biggest alpha testing every tried by canonical against it's userbase
[22:02] <antiretorte> I get permanent error in "Control process died, committing suicide! "
[22:02] <antiretorte> any ideas?
[22:02] <antiretorte> thanks for any ideas in front
[22:03] <Dashkal> Which package do I install to add Kubuntu to an existing Ubuntu install?
[22:04] <antiretorte> Dashkal: only from a long-time kubuntu user
[22:04] <antiretorte> you don't want kubuntu in it's current quality!
[22:05] <Dashkal> antiretorte: This is why I want to add to an existing ubuntu install.  So I have gnome to fall back on.
[22:05] <Dashkal> antiretorte: Also, I'm going to immediately upgrade to the newest kde
[22:06] <antiretorte> Dashkal: if I won't get KDE PIM rock solid up'n'running as it works in the past, I will completely leave it
[22:07] <antiretorte> Dashkal: should work when install kubuntu-desktop
[22:07] <Dashkal> antiretorte: I've never used PIM.  I want plasma
[22:07] <antiretorte> Dashkal: good luck
[22:08] <Dashkal> followup: How do I restore the ubuntu splash screen after doing so?
[22:08] <antiretorte> don't know
[22:09] <Dashkal> What I really want is to use plasma to replace my windows desktop.  But last couple times I tried that were an absolutely nightmare
[22:12] <antiretorte> Dashkal: kde4 is an absolutely nightmare! I searched the web for ways to get back to kde-3.5, that was a working compilation, the complete 4.x is horrible
[22:12] <antiretorte> Dashkal: so SOCIAL that working is impossible :-(
[22:13] <antiretorte> Dashkal: if you want a playground kde4 is a good choice, if you have want to work with it, don't touch it
[22:13] <Dashkal> antiretorte: KDE3 is dead.  As in the support is no longer very good.
[22:13] <Dashkal> As for getting work done, my actual preference is to hell with gnome/kde, just use xmonad and a task tray
[22:14] <Dashkal> Unfortuantely, (k)ubuntu is pissy about wireless without getting an environment up
[22:14] <antiretorte> Dashkal: sure I know,the real working horse was killed
[22:14] <rats> hi all Dashkal I disagree kubuntu 10.04 is the best KDE out there right now-very solid
[22:15] <Dashkal> If all you want is for your environment to get out of your way, use gnome.  I like my eye candy and desktop widgets and such.
[22:15] <Dashkal> rats: I had nothing but pain with the actual release.  I use dual (unequal sized) monitors.
[22:16] <rats> ok that may cause some headaches
[22:16] <Dashkal> Yes, yes it does.  Fortunately the new KDE addressed that issue.  DKE is usable again
[22:16] <antiretorte> rats: do you have a working kde pim?
[22:17] <rats> KDE pim?
[22:17] <antiretorte> kontact (kmail, with calendar, contact,...)
[22:17] <antiretorte> one of the core requirements for a modern desktop?
[22:17] <Dashkal> Most PIM packages are useless for me.  I run so many computers and environments, syncing is a nightmare.
[22:18] <rats> no I don't use most of those tools
[22:19] <rats> I only have one putter and the ccloud for mail
[22:20] <rats> and Kubuntu 10.04
[22:21] <rats> now I want to setup kontact to see whats up
[22:22] <Dashkal> I run two PCs at home, one at work, and one of my home PCs spends half of its time in windows for gaming.
[22:24] <rats> kontact does look interesting -whats wrong with it?
[22:25] <antiretorte> rats: through an undefined number of bugs (pardon not working things) with akonadi, a little bit unsable
[22:26] <Dashkal> akonadi is still not in (it was held back from 4.5.0)
[22:27] <Dashkal> s/akonadi/akonadi integration
[22:27] <Dashkal> I can't remember if its slated for 4.5.1 or 4.6, though.  You'll have to check kde.org
[22:28] <antiretorte> Dashkal: it's in 10.04 and currently kills komplete kaddressbook part
[22:28] <rats> has anyone seen or tried reconq
[22:28] <Dashkal> You could always grab the raw KDE.  But again, Akonadi is currently out.  You may just want to wait it out until it's in officially.
[22:28] <antiretorte> Dashkal: next time (as the plan shows) it should also used for kmail and will kill kmail part then, happy birthday
[22:29] <antiretorte> Dashkal: I use an official released kubuntu 10.04!!! no experimental stuff
[22:30] <Dashkal> antiretorte: And are unhappy with it.  Hence the suggestion
[22:30] <rats> reconq is supposidly the stock browser for kubuntu 10.10
[22:31] <antiretorte> Dashkal: as it told, I would happy to buy a WORKING release, but don't know where this s..t is produced
[22:32] <antiretorte> Dashkal: on 10.04 you have to deactive nepomuk indexing system to be able to work on a modern 64bit desktop system
[22:33] <antiretorte> Dashkal: akonadi is in and completely broken
[22:33] <antiretorte> Dashkal: at the moment I try to get a workaround by using the postgresql connection and if that doesn't work I maybe change to apple
[22:34] <bowser> hi all, i messed up my kubuntu install, after login all i see is black + cursor. can you help me?
[22:35] <luis_> hey guys i am back
[22:35] <luis_> step by step first need help kubuntu lucy keeps rebooing my system on its onw help please it endures only a few mins before it happens
[22:36] <luis_> rebooting*
[22:38] <bowser> i tried downgrading some packages back from kde 4.5 (bad idea) that removed few packages including "kubuntu-desktop"...
[22:38] <Dashkal> Well I'm feeling foolish.  I just installed the 10.04 version of KDE because I forgot to activate the ppa...
[22:39] <Dashkal> antiretorte: It sounds an awful lot like apple is the way for you to go.
[22:39] <bowser> ... the last thing i did was "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" but it hasn't solved it all yet...
[22:40] <antiretorte> Dashkal: My primary wish is a working desktop where the software developers do NOT destroy working solutions
[22:40] <Dashkal> bowser: The last time I got into that situation I brute-force removed kde entirely and then reinstalled
[22:40] <Dashkal> antiretorte: If you are completely intolerant to breakage, I highly suggest apple.
[22:41] <antiretorte> Dashkal: sure :)
[22:41] <Dashkal> Apple's main selling point is it "just works".
[22:42] <Dashkal> I have teh hacker mentality of wanting to be able to dig into (and break!) my computer.  So Apple is a non-starter for me.
[22:42] <Dashkal> the*
[22:43] <Dashkal> bowser: removing all the packages with kde in the name will go a long way to removing kde sc from your system.  Once done, be sure the kde sc 4.5 repo is out of your sources and reinstall kubuntu-desktop.  Doing this will require some comfort with the command line or to have gnome on hand, though.
[22:43] <Dashkal> You may need to nuke qt as well, but I hope not, that has... consequences that are a pain to deal with.
[22:44] <antiretorte> Dashkal: see it from another point, OSS likes to rock the enterprise and the user desktop, Canonical seems to wish that also, the only company which seems to beat that is Redhat with a gnome desktop
[22:44] <antiretorte> Dashkal: I used kubuntu as a more usable debian
[22:45] <Dashkal> I use ubuntu because, of the linux distros I've used, it 'just works' the best.  But it doesn't take away my ability to tinker when I wish to.
[22:45] <Dashkal> But I hands down prefer KDE SC to Gnome.  Gnome treats me like a baby. Configuring is an excercise in pain.
[22:45] <bowser> Dashkal: interesting, right now I am enabling kubuntu backports ppa (kde 4.5) so that I can try dist-upgrade to the latest version - i will see whether that will work
[22:46] <Dashkal> bowser: If you're willing to go to 4.5, that should fix it since you'll only be upgrading
[22:46] <bowser> is there a right way of downgrading?
[22:46] <Dashkal> Going back from 4.5.0 to the version in Kubuntu 10.04, that'll be painful.
[22:46] <bowser> i see
[22:47] <Dashkal> Start from zero.  Packages don't usually come with downgrade scripts.
[22:48] <avihay> I have some issues with kde4.5 from the backports repo, but I can work around them, so I don't think I'll bother with reverting to 4.4.5
[22:51] <bowser> i'm in 4.5 again, great
[22:51] <bowser> dolphin crashes maybe too often, but I'll go with that
[22:53] <Dashkal> Ahh, the joys of a .0 release
[22:53] <bowser> :)
[22:53] <Dashkal> Still, I'll take it.  I get my plasma back and it actually works on dual monitors
[22:54] <rats> thats cool
[22:56] <bowser> can i mess anything installing packagekit - the gnome one?
[22:57] <bowser> *mess up
[23:21] <pelle_k> Anybody know when one can expect to play files in say kaffeine/dragon player from samba shares mounted with dolphin (KIO)?