[00:01] <Jordan_U> penguin42: True, btrfs de-duplication might still allow you to reuse the common blocks but btrfs de-duplication is only planned at the moment.
[00:15] <EliteHunters> anyone has any other option on how to install adobe flash into kubuntu
[00:15] <EliteHunters> the deb file is there
[00:15] <EliteHunters> konsole is open
[00:17] <EliteHunters> anything worth trying
[00:54] <Pici> Argh, why does openoffice.org need to fill up apt-listchanges with all of its changelogs back to 1.9
[04:57] <bathacid1> hello is 10.10 really that different than 10.04?
[05:00] <alket> I want to install 10.10 in another partitions but i get this error " No init found. Try passing init= bootrag" ?
[05:01] <Volkodav> another partitions ?
[05:02] <alket> sorry , partition
[05:22] <CryWolf> My laptop is now successfully running Maverick.  I only really ran into one difficulty: needing to disable KSM for the radeon driver to get X working.  I don't know if that counts as a bug.  Should that be mentioned somewhere?
[05:23] <CryWolf> And on a definite plus, ACPI now works, even without the "acpi=copy_dsdt" kernel parameter.
[05:23] <alket> CryWolf, I think any problem is worth mentioning
[05:23] <alket> and reporting
[05:25] <CryWolf> I'll set myself up a launchpad account soon and report it.
[06:04] <Delvien> So I was wanting to test out the new sound applet features.... but I dont see them. Are they not in yet? (fully update btw)
[06:41] <rhandom2> trying to use Rhythmbox import to import files from ~/Downloads/folder/ into Rhythmbox on Maverick Meerkat, but nothing happens. Rhythmbox help will not open.. Am I using import the wrong way?
[09:12] <knittl> what happened to ubuntu.com/testing? it forwards me to the home page
[13:42] <head_victim> So is openoffice meant to disappear with an update?
[13:42] <Pici> Probably not.
[16:05] <alket> how to report a bug for installation process ?
[16:05] <bazhang> !bug
[16:05] <bazhang> alket, which installer? debian or the non alternate one
[16:05] <alket> the graphical one
[16:06] <bazhang> !find ubiquity
[16:06] <alket> thank you bazhang
[16:06] <bazhang> alket, ubiquity iirc
[16:07] <alket> I have a problem installing maveric in my main pc, im installing it with USB disk and after it start booting it displays this error: no init found try passing init bootarg
[16:11] <shadeslayer> people
[16:11] <shadeslayer> you can haz google call in kopete ^_^
[16:11] <shadeslayer> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/4:4.5.0b-0ubuntu2
[16:20] <edgy_> Hi, In maverick I am getting losts of lockups and have to reboot. Is it a bad disk or a kernel issue? http://pastebin.ca/1918163
[16:41] <bjsnider> edgy_, the smart data says it's a bad disk
[16:50] <sebsebseb>  
[16:51] <jpds> sebsebseb: I agree.
[16:51] <sebsebseb> jpds: :D
[17:00] <sinurge> the nvidia 256 driver was updated for xserver upgrade how to know fi the 173 driver is upgraded as well
[17:46] <blackest_knight> Is there a usability bug report for mavericks abysmal netbook interface ?
[17:48] <blackest_knight> has anyone here actually tried using it ?
[17:49] <Ian_corne> I've tried it 3 releases now
[17:49] <Ian_corne> ran away screaming after one day every time
[17:49] <Ian_corne> and I have an asus eee
[17:49] <Ian_corne> the default one is just so much handier for me
[17:49] <Ian_corne> I like my applets..
[17:50] <blackest_knight> Lucids interface is quite nice
[17:51] <blackest_knight> its clear and easy to use.
[17:51] <Ian_corne> I've tried it but it's not my kind of cookie
[17:51] <blackest_knight> but this new one doesn't know what it is but thinks it is important
[17:52] <blackest_knight> thats why it has to be always visible
[17:53] <blackest_knight> lucids version could work with  a touch screen
[17:53] <blackest_knight> this new one the icons are too small
[17:54] <blackest_knight> when i couldnt get a terminal or locate the programs i use  thats when i had enough
[19:38] <kristjan> can you encrypt your home with desktop installer? or do I need to download alternate iso?
[19:49] <penguin42> kristjan: Desktop one will let you do it
[19:50] <kristjan> good, thanks
[20:14] <blackest_knight> hi is there an way to get lucids netbook interface working again in maverick ?
[20:58] <funkyHat> Weird! My notify-osd boxes have the right and bottom edges chopped off
[20:59] <penguin42> curious
[21:08] <CryWolf> Is there an RSS feed or mailing list to track Maverick bugs?
[21:08] <td123> CryWolf: checkout launchpad
[21:09] <td123> CryWolf: there are a lot of them
[21:10] <yofel> CryWolf: there is an rss feed and ML to track *all* ubuntu bugs, but the best chance to get all maverick bugs is to look at bugs tagged with 'maverick', you can't subscribe to tags yet though
[21:14] <CryWolf> Ah, found the Maverick bug mailing list.  No RSS feed that I can see, though.
[21:14] <jono> is anyone having problems with maverick upgrades?
[21:15] <jono> it looks like gconf is part of the issue
[21:15] <td123> CryWolf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick
[21:15] <td123> CryWolf: if you open it in firefox, the rss feed is there
[21:15] <penguin42> jono: I've not tried doing an update from lucid in the last couple of weeks; but doing updates on the existing maverick installs I've got seem to be working
[21:16] <td123> (rss icon in the address bar)
[21:16] <jono> penguin42, this is maverick to maverick
[21:16] <jono> just a dist-upgrade
[21:16] <penguin42> jono: Seems OK here
[21:17] <penguin42> jono: I currently have   kopete libgirepository1.0-0 held back apparently
[21:18] <CryWolf> td123: Found it, thanks.  Not used to looking at the address bar for that.
[21:18] <td123> CryWolf: that's where I always check first for rss feeds :)
[21:19] <jono> penguin42, this is what I get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/479049/
[21:19] <td123> g2g bye o/
[21:20] <penguin42> jono: Maybe its the dbus problem near the top?
[21:21] <IdleOne> root?
[21:21]  * IdleOne taps jono on the fingers
[21:21] <penguin42> jono: It looks like dbus has failed to upgrade and everything after got upset?
[21:22] <jono> IdleOne, I am chrooted in to fix it
[21:22] <jono> penguin42, any idea how I fix that?
[21:22]  * penguin42 sighs as my machine upgrade texlive - you don't know how little I care about tex
[21:22] <IdleOne> jono: I suggest just leaving it be and let it fix itself
[21:22] <penguin42> jono: oh, you're chrooted - I don't think that's helping if it's trying to find the dbus socket
[21:23] <penguin42> jono: Why are you chrooted?
[21:23] <jono> penguin42, ahhh so maybe if I reboot and run -f install
[21:23] <jono> that might fix it
[21:23] <jono> penguin42, the X transition too me down
[21:23] <penguin42>  -f install always helps :-)
[21:23] <jono> lets give it a try :)
[21:24] <CryWolf> Hrm.  ubuntu-bug didn't seem to report my bug under Maverick.
[21:26] <jono> penguin42, looks like it is upgrading now
[21:26] <jono> thanks!
[21:26] <penguin42> TTOTD: Don't upgrade libvirt and co while you have vms running
[21:26] <penguin42> jono: No problem
[21:27] <penguin42> actually, upgrade of libvirt just took out the front end - VMs carried on without a blink
[21:36] <penguin42> jono: It's happy?
[21:36] <jono> penguin42, not really, won't start X
[21:36] <penguin42> jono: Hey well, X is a bonus
[21:36] <penguin42> jono: Which graphics card?
[21:37] <jono> penguin42, Intel
[21:37] <jono> are a lot of people still SOL on X?
[21:37] <penguin42> SOL?
[21:38] <penguin42> Intel is working fine on this <---- machine, Radeon on this ----> with some tweaks
[21:38] <CryWolf> jono: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[21:39] <jono> penguin42, s**t out of luck
[21:39] <jono> CryWolf, are the X issues with KMS?
[21:39] <penguin42> jono: Ahha!
[21:39] <CryWolf> jono: It was for me.  Simple fix, and I have a fully functional X now.
[21:39] <penguin42> jono: So Intel is being good for me; (i945gm), Radeon I need to edit the grub boot to remove the set gfxmode=
[21:40] <jono> CryWolf, what was the fix?
[21:40] <CryWolf> echo options radeon modeset=0 > /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf
[21:41] <penguin42> CryWolf: I'm running ok with mode setting actually (HD4350)
[21:42] <Jordan_U> jono: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[21:42] <CryWolf> Mine has an HD4200
[21:43] <CryWolf> penguin42: Mine is also a Toshiba, which I've found isn't as good as they used to be.
[21:43] <penguin42> CryWolf: My radeon needs the set gfxmode taking out; not tried taking mode setting out
[21:44] <CryWolf> I don't think mine has the set gfxmode in the grub menu.
[21:44] <penguin42> CryWolf: My Tosh laptop is Intel graphics
[21:44] <penguin42> an HD4200 should work on KMS
[21:45] <CryWolf> Ah, I see set gfxpayload.  Now to see what that does.
[21:45] <penguin42> CryWolf: See bug 605614
[21:46] <jono> Jordan_U, will try - will need to dump it to a USB stick
[21:46] <CryWolf> I assumed an HDxxxx would be ATI, based on my video card description.
[21:46] <penguin42> yeh
[21:48] <CryWolf> penguin42: I wonder if it is the same problem I saw.  Did you have a blank screen with a small multicolored line that moves like a mouse pointer?
[21:49] <penguin42> CryWolf: No, I find that kills the startup almost completely in weird random ways
[21:50] <CryWolf> Hrm.  Mine appeared fully functional, apart from no actual X display.
[21:50] <CryWolf> Though now I'm curious, so I'll give that a try.
[21:52] <jono> Jordan_U, I am having difficulty getting this off my broken laptop
[21:52] <Jordan_U> jono: Can you boot into recovery mode?
[21:52] <jono> Jordan_U, it is segfaulting though
[21:52] <jono> Jordan_U, signal 11
[21:52] <jono> I can boot into recovery mode, yes
[21:53] <Jordan_U> jono: From there can you connect to the internet, install pastebinit, and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"?
[21:54] <jono> Jordan_U, I can't get connected on this machine
[21:54] <jono> I just tried t mount my USB stick and no luck
[21:55] <jono> let me try again
[21:55] <penguin42> it's not a happy machine
[21:55] <jono> indeed
[21:57] <penguin42> bah, something has broken flash for me in the last few hours
[21:58] <CryWolf> Hrm.  I seem to be having trouble finding documentation for gfxpayload.  And grub-doc doesn't appear to have any documentation.
[22:01] <yofel> well, gfxpayload can have '=keep (the default right now), =text, =$resolution (replace with one listed by vbeinfo)'
[22:01] <yofel> that are the options that I know
[22:01] <penguin42> CryWolf: It's something to do with trying to keep it all in pretty graphics all the way from grub forward
[22:01] <jono> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/gUmYb3Xv
[22:03] <CryWolf> I dislike using options I can't find documentation for.  But for this, I'll give it a try.
[22:03] <CryWolf> I also assume that grub-doc containing only changelogs, copyright, and news is a bug.
[22:03] <jono> Jordan_U, not sure if that will help pinpoint the prolbem
[22:03] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:03] <jono> problem
[22:03] <jono> hey BUGabundo
[22:04] <yofel> hi BUGabundo
[22:05] <BUGabundo> *very* stupid question of the day
[22:06] <CryWolf> penguin42: "set gfxpayload=text" works.  I'll have to update my bug.
[22:06] <BUGabundo> this new announcement of multitouch for maverick
[22:06] <penguin42> CryWolf: Also subscribe to the one I pointed to?
[22:06] <BUGabundo> does it work in every HW, or requires touchpads with support?
[22:06] <jono> Jordan_U, any ideas?
[22:06] <penguin42> ok, new ia32-libs breaks flash
[22:07] <Jordan_U> jono: No, sorry.
[22:07] <CryWolf> penguin42: Probably worthwhile.
[22:07] <jono> Jordan_U, ok no worries, I will file a bug
[22:07] <penguin42> CryWolf: It seems to cause different problems for different people - some it just kills boot completely, for you it's more subtle
[22:11] <CryWolf> It does seem to cause a lot of problems, though.  I'm surprised it's not a FAQ.
[22:12] <penguin42> yeh, how do we get stuff added to the faq?
[22:16] <CryWolf> Next trick, figuring out how to permanently change grub.cfg
[22:16] <yofel> CryWolf: edit /etc/default/grub
[22:16] <yofel> CryWolf: you need to change gfxpayload?
[22:17] <penguin42> hi, can anyone on 64bit tell me what version of ia32-libs they have?
[22:18] <CryWolf> yofel: Found it.  It's not there, it's /etc/grub.d/10_linux
[22:18] <Jordan_U> CryWolf: No, you want to edit /etc/default/grub
[22:18] <yofel> CryWolf: do not edit that file, you can change that in /etc/default/grub
[22:18] <CryWolf> I don't see it as an option in /etc/default/grub
[22:19] <CryWolf> penguin42: 2.7ubuntu26
[22:19] <Jordan_U> CryWolf: set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text
[22:19] <yofel> CryWolf: add a line with '#GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text' in /etc/default7grub
[22:19] <yofel> without the #
[22:19] <penguin42> CryWolf: And that's on a Maverick that was uptodate before today?
[22:19] <yofel> Jordan_U: no need for the 'set'
[22:19] <CryWolf> penguin42: Last update was a day or two ago.
[22:19] <penguin42> ok, thanks
[22:20] <CryWolf> I wonder if I have an old /etc/default/grub from a previous version.
[22:20] <Jordan_U> yofel: I meant set as a verb not as syntax, but I see that was far from clear :)
[22:20] <CryWolf> I'll add that line.  Thanks.
[22:20] <yofel> Jordan_U: oh, I misunderstood that ^^
[22:21] <Jordan_U> CryWolf: The line you want to add is just "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text", without the quotes and without either "set" or "#" at the beginning.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> CryWolf: You can see all of the possible options for /etc/default/grub @ http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration
[22:23] <CryWolf> Looks like it's set now.  Thanks.
[22:24] <penguin42> ok - I can confirm going back to ia32-libs 2.7ubuntu6 gets flash going again; you might want to take a copy from your cache if youv'e still got it
[22:25] <yofel> you mean 2.7ubuntu26 ?
[22:25] <yofel> that version comes from lucid-updates
[22:26] <penguin42> yofel: Interestingly I don't - I mean ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu6_amd64.deb which is the one I picked off ftp.ubuntu.com
[22:27] <yofel> erm, that's jaunty...
[22:27] <yofel> you can download the debs directly from the archive too http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/
[22:27] <penguin42> oops - let me try 26
[22:29] <penguin42> yep still works with 26
[22:34] <Ian_corne> penguin42: i have this as version  Installed: 20090808ubuntu1
[22:34] <penguin42> Ian_corne: Does flash still work for you?
[22:35] <Ian_corne> err
[22:35] <Ian_corne> ues
[22:35] <Ian_corne> yes
[22:35] <Ian_corne> sec
[22:35] <Ian_corne> no!
[22:35]  * BUGabundo slaps Ian_corne back in place
[22:35] <Ian_corne> missing plugin
[22:35] <Ian_corne> my flash games!!
[22:36] <penguin42> no more kittens doing silly things
[22:36] <Ian_corne> ooh
[22:36] <Ian_corne> sushy cat
[22:36] <Ian_corne> know it?
[22:36] <penguin42> Ian_corne: Bug 618900 if rolling ia32_libs back fixes it
[22:36] <Ian_corne> http://onemorelevel.com/game/sushi_cat_honeymoon
[22:37] <Ian_corne> subbed and confirmed
[22:38] <Ian_corne> I've got youtube set to html5 so I don't notice it all that quick
[22:38] <Ian_corne> embeded is broken tho :(
[22:40] <Ian_corne> I still have it installed btw
[22:40] <Ian_corne> http://pastebin.com/aJFjrCHK
[22:42] <penguin42> Ian_corne: That game is much too surreal
[22:43] <Ian_corne> :D
[22:43] <Ian_corne> full belly achieved!
[22:50] <Ian_corne> OMG
[22:50] <Ian_corne> this means I can't play transformice...
[22:52] <Ian_corne> how can one "force version" via synaptic?
[22:52] <Ian_corne> It's greyed out
[22:54] <yofel> do you have lucid repos still enabled? maverick only has the newest version
[22:54] <Ian_corne> no
[22:54] <Ian_corne> ok
[22:54] <Ian_corne> i could do that
[22:54] <yofel> either install from /var/cache/apt/archives or download the deb from the mirror link I posted
[22:55] <Ian_corne> cache only has newest too
[22:55] <Ian_corne> hmm weird
[22:55] <yofel> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/
[22:55] <Ian_corne> what's with the weird version name btw?
[22:56] <yofel> year/month/day ?
[22:57] <yofel> source snapshot I guess
[22:57] <yofel> or they stopped doing releases
[22:58] <Ian_corne> how should it then work magically?
[22:59] <Ian_corne> ah, I have to restart the browser
[23:05] <dutchie> hmm
[23:05] <dutchie> seem to be seeing a fair bit of "ImportError: libgirepository-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" on my maverick box
[23:05] <dutchie> even though it's definitely in /usr/lib
[23:08] <Ian_corne> I remember that being uninstalled
[23:10] <dutchie> oh dear
[23:10] <dutchie> update-manager just crashed
[23:10] <BUGabundo> lol
[23:10] <BUGabundo> wait for ubuntu-bug crash too
[23:12] <dutchie> hmm, it seems to have gone mad now
[23:12]  * dutchie does the "Restart to complete upgrade" before continuing to try and fix it
[23:15] <penguin42> damn Ian_corne you and showing me Flash games
[23:16] <dutchie> it should be possible to change my real name without vipw
[23:17] <penguin42> chfn
[23:17] <dutchie> heh
[23:17] <Ian_corne> haha penguin42
[23:17] <dutchie> i meant gui-ly, but thanks
[23:18] <penguin42> dutchie: You're right, the about me gui doesn't let you change that - BUG
[23:18] <dutchie> i'll file it as soon as i've finished upgrading
[23:23] <penguin42> the deformation and jellyness of the cat in that game are an incredible piece of work
[23:25] <yofel> dutchie: is libgirepository1.0-1 really installed?
[23:25] <yofel> dutchie: note: NOT libgirepository1.0-0
[23:25] <dutchie> dunno
[23:25] <yofel> dutchie: check with apt-cache policy in a terminal
[23:26] <yofel> oh wait
[23:26] <dutchie> it seems to have sorted itself out now
[23:26] <dutchie> and it is installed
[23:26] <yofel> well, ok, if that happens the app needs a rebuilt against new girepository
[23:27] <yofel> *rebuild
[23:28] <yofel> current is libgirepository-1.0.so.1 and the app looks for libgirepository-1.0.so.0