| Jordan_U | penguin42: True, btrfs de-duplication might still allow you to reuse the common blocks but btrfs de-duplication is only planned at the moment. | 00:01 |
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| EliteHunters | anyone has any other option on how to install adobe flash into kubuntu | 00:15 |
| EliteHunters | the deb file is there | 00:15 |
| EliteHunters | konsole is open | 00:15 |
| EliteHunters | anything worth trying | 00:17 |
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| Pici | Argh, why does openoffice.org need to fill up apt-listchanges with all of its changelogs back to 1.9 | 00:54 |
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| bathacid1 | hello is 10.10 really that different than 10.04? | 04:57 |
| alket | I want to install 10.10 in another partitions but i get this error " No init found. Try passing init= bootrag" ? | 05:00 |
| Volkodav | another partitions ? | 05:01 |
| alket | sorry , partition | 05:02 |
| CryWolf | My laptop is now successfully running Maverick. I only really ran into one difficulty: needing to disable KSM for the radeon driver to get X working. I don't know if that counts as a bug. Should that be mentioned somewhere? | 05:22 |
| CryWolf | And on a definite plus, ACPI now works, even without the "acpi=copy_dsdt" kernel parameter. | 05:23 |
| alket | CryWolf, I think any problem is worth mentioning | 05:23 |
| alket | and reporting | 05:23 |
| CryWolf | I'll set myself up a launchpad account soon and report it. | 05:25 |
| Delvien | So I was wanting to test out the new sound applet features.... but I dont see them. Are they not in yet? (fully update btw) | 06:04 |
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| rhandom2 | trying to use Rhythmbox import to import files from ~/Downloads/folder/ into Rhythmbox on Maverick Meerkat, but nothing happens. Rhythmbox help will not open.. Am I using import the wrong way? | 06:41 |
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| knittl | what happened to ubuntu.com/testing? it forwards me to the home page | 09:12 |
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| head_victim | So is openoffice meant to disappear with an update? | 13:42 |
| Pici | Probably not. | 13:42 |
| alket | how to report a bug for installation process ? | 16:05 |
| bazhang | !bug | 16:05 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 16:05 |
| bazhang | alket, which installer? debian or the non alternate one | 16:05 |
| alket | the graphical one | 16:05 |
| bazhang | !find ubiquity | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Found: ubiquity, ubiquity-casper, ubiquity-frontend-debconf, ubiquity-frontend-gtk, ubiquity-frontend-kde (and 6 others) | 16:06 |
| alket | thank you bazhang | 16:06 |
| bazhang | alket, ubiquity iirc | 16:06 |
| alket | I have a problem installing maveric in my main pc, im installing it with USB disk and after it start booting it displays this error: no init found try passing init bootarg | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | people | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | you can haz google call in kopete ^_^ | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/4:4.5.0b-0ubuntu2 | 16:11 |
| edgy_ | Hi, In maverick I am getting losts of lockups and have to reboot. Is it a bad disk or a kernel issue? http://pastebin.ca/1918163 | 16:20 |
| bjsnider | edgy_, the smart data says it's a bad disk | 16:41 |
| sebsebseb | 16:50 | |
| jpds | sebsebseb: I agree. | 16:51 |
| sebsebseb | jpds: :D | 16:51 |
| sinurge | the nvidia 256 driver was updated for xserver upgrade how to know fi the 173 driver is upgraded as well | 17:00 |
| blackest_knight | Is there a usability bug report for mavericks abysmal netbook interface ? | 17:46 |
| blackest_knight | has anyone here actually tried using it ? | 17:48 |
| Ian_corne | I've tried it 3 releases now | 17:49 |
| Ian_corne | ran away screaming after one day every time | 17:49 |
| Ian_corne | and I have an asus eee | 17:49 |
| Ian_corne | the default one is just so much handier for me | 17:49 |
| Ian_corne | I like my applets.. | 17:49 |
| blackest_knight | Lucids interface is quite nice | 17:50 |
| blackest_knight | its clear and easy to use. | 17:51 |
| Ian_corne | I've tried it but it's not my kind of cookie | 17:51 |
| blackest_knight | but this new one doesn't know what it is but thinks it is important | 17:51 |
| blackest_knight | thats why it has to be always visible | 17:52 |
| blackest_knight | lucids version could work with a touch screen | 17:53 |
| blackest_knight | this new one the icons are too small | 17:53 |
| blackest_knight | when i couldnt get a terminal or locate the programs i use thats when i had enough | 17:54 |
| kristjan | can you encrypt your home with desktop installer? or do I need to download alternate iso? | 19:38 |
| penguin42 | kristjan: Desktop one will let you do it | 19:49 |
| kristjan | good, thanks | 19:50 |
| blackest_knight | hi is there an way to get lucids netbook interface working again in maverick ? | 20:14 |
| funkyHat | Weird! My notify-osd boxes have the right and bottom edges chopped off | 20:58 |
| penguin42 | curious | 20:59 |
| CryWolf | Is there an RSS feed or mailing list to track Maverick bugs? | 21:08 |
| td123 | CryWolf: checkout launchpad | 21:08 |
| td123 | CryWolf: there are a lot of them | 21:09 |
| yofel | CryWolf: there is an rss feed and ML to track *all* ubuntu bugs, but the best chance to get all maverick bugs is to look at bugs tagged with 'maverick', you can't subscribe to tags yet though | 21:10 |
| CryWolf | Ah, found the Maverick bug mailing list. No RSS feed that I can see, though. | 21:14 |
| jono | is anyone having problems with maverick upgrades? | 21:14 |
| jono | it looks like gconf is part of the issue | 21:15 |
| td123 | CryWolf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick | 21:15 |
| td123 | CryWolf: if you open it in firefox, the rss feed is there | 21:15 |
| penguin42 | jono: I've not tried doing an update from lucid in the last couple of weeks; but doing updates on the existing maverick installs I've got seem to be working | 21:15 |
| td123 | (rss icon in the address bar) | 21:16 |
| jono | penguin42, this is maverick to maverick | 21:16 |
| jono | just a dist-upgrade | 21:16 |
| penguin42 | jono: Seems OK here | 21:16 |
| penguin42 | jono: I currently have kopete libgirepository1.0-0 held back apparently | 21:17 |
| CryWolf | td123: Found it, thanks. Not used to looking at the address bar for that. | 21:18 |
| td123 | CryWolf: that's where I always check first for rss feeds :) | 21:18 |
| jono | penguin42, this is what I get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/479049/ | 21:19 |
| td123 | g2g bye o/ | 21:19 |
| penguin42 | jono: Maybe its the dbus problem near the top? | 21:20 |
| IdleOne | root? | 21:21 |
| * IdleOne taps jono on the fingers | 21:21 | |
| penguin42 | jono: It looks like dbus has failed to upgrade and everything after got upset? | 21:21 |
| jono | IdleOne, I am chrooted in to fix it | 21:22 |
| jono | penguin42, any idea how I fix that? | 21:22 |
| * penguin42 sighs as my machine upgrade texlive - you don't know how little I care about tex | 21:22 | |
| IdleOne | jono: I suggest just leaving it be and let it fix itself | 21:22 |
| penguin42 | jono: oh, you're chrooted - I don't think that's helping if it's trying to find the dbus socket | 21:22 |
| penguin42 | jono: Why are you chrooted? | 21:23 |
| jono | penguin42, ahhh so maybe if I reboot and run -f install | 21:23 |
| jono | that might fix it | 21:23 |
| jono | penguin42, the X transition too me down | 21:23 |
| penguin42 | -f install always helps :-) | 21:23 |
| jono | lets give it a try :) | 21:23 |
| CryWolf | Hrm. ubuntu-bug didn't seem to report my bug under Maverick. | 21:24 |
| jono | penguin42, looks like it is upgrading now | 21:26 |
| jono | thanks! | 21:26 |
| penguin42 | TTOTD: Don't upgrade libvirt and co while you have vms running | 21:26 |
| penguin42 | jono: No problem | 21:26 |
| penguin42 | actually, upgrade of libvirt just took out the front end - VMs carried on without a blink | 21:27 |
| penguin42 | jono: It's happy? | 21:36 |
| jono | penguin42, not really, won't start X | 21:36 |
| penguin42 | jono: Hey well, X is a bonus | 21:36 |
| penguin42 | jono: Which graphics card? | 21:36 |
| jono | penguin42, Intel | 21:37 |
| jono | are a lot of people still SOL on X? | 21:37 |
| penguin42 | SOL? | 21:37 |
| penguin42 | Intel is working fine on this <---- machine, Radeon on this ----> with some tweaks | 21:38 |
| CryWolf | jono: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting | 21:38 |
| jono | penguin42, s**t out of luck | 21:39 |
| jono | CryWolf, are the X issues with KMS? | 21:39 |
| penguin42 | jono: Ahha! | 21:39 |
| CryWolf | jono: It was for me. Simple fix, and I have a fully functional X now. | 21:39 |
| penguin42 | jono: So Intel is being good for me; (i945gm), Radeon I need to edit the grub boot to remove the set gfxmode= | 21:39 |
| jono | CryWolf, what was the fix? | 21:40 |
| CryWolf | echo options radeon modeset=0 > /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf | 21:40 |
| penguin42 | CryWolf: I'm running ok with mode setting actually (HD4350) | 21:41 |
| Jordan_U | jono: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? | 21:42 |
| CryWolf | Mine has an HD4200 | 21:42 |
| CryWolf | penguin42: Mine is also a Toshiba, which I've found isn't as good as they used to be. | 21:43 |
| penguin42 | CryWolf: My radeon needs the set gfxmode taking out; not tried taking mode setting out | 21:43 |
| CryWolf | I don't think mine has the set gfxmode in the grub menu. | 21:44 |
| penguin42 | CryWolf: My Tosh laptop is Intel graphics | 21:44 |
| penguin42 | an HD4200 should work on KMS | 21:44 |
| CryWolf | Ah, I see set gfxpayload. Now to see what that does. | 21:45 |
| penguin42 | CryWolf: See bug 605614 | 21:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 605614 in linux (Ubuntu) "[ATI] GPU lockup with gfxpayload=keep" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605614 | 21:45 |
| jono | Jordan_U, will try - will need to dump it to a USB stick | 21:46 |
| CryWolf | I assumed an HDxxxx would be ATI, based on my video card description. | 21:46 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 21:46 |
| CryWolf | penguin42: I wonder if it is the same problem I saw. Did you have a blank screen with a small multicolored line that moves like a mouse pointer? | 21:48 |
| penguin42 | CryWolf: No, I find that kills the startup almost completely in weird random ways | 21:49 |
| CryWolf | Hrm. Mine appeared fully functional, apart from no actual X display. | 21:50 |
| CryWolf | Though now I'm curious, so I'll give that a try. | 21:50 |
| jono | Jordan_U, I am having difficulty getting this off my broken laptop | 21:52 |
| Jordan_U | jono: Can you boot into recovery mode? | 21:52 |
| jono | Jordan_U, it is segfaulting though | 21:52 |
| jono | Jordan_U, signal 11 | 21:52 |
| jono | I can boot into recovery mode, yes | 21:52 |
| Jordan_U | jono: From there can you connect to the internet, install pastebinit, and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"? | 21:53 |
| jono | Jordan_U, I can't get connected on this machine | 21:54 |
| jono | I just tried t mount my USB stick and no luck | 21:54 |
| jono | let me try again | 21:55 |
| penguin42 | it's not a happy machine | 21:55 |
| jono | indeed | 21:55 |
| penguin42 | bah, something has broken flash for me in the last few hours | 21:57 |
| CryWolf | Hrm. I seem to be having trouble finding documentation for gfxpayload. And grub-doc doesn't appear to have any documentation. | 21:58 |
| yofel | well, gfxpayload can have '=keep (the default right now), =text, =$resolution (replace with one listed by vbeinfo)' | 22:01 |
| yofel | that are the options that I know | 22:01 |
| penguin42 | CryWolf: It's something to do with trying to keep it all in pretty graphics all the way from grub forward | 22:01 |
| jono | Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/gUmYb3Xv | 22:01 |
| CryWolf | I dislike using options I can't find documentation for. But for this, I'll give it a try. | 22:03 |
| CryWolf | I also assume that grub-doc containing only changelogs, copyright, and news is a bug. | 22:03 |
| jono | Jordan_U, not sure if that will help pinpoint the prolbem | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | evening | 22:03 |
| jono | problem | 22:03 |
| jono | hey BUGabundo | 22:03 |
| yofel | hi BUGabundo | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | *very* stupid question of the day | 22:05 |
| CryWolf | penguin42: "set gfxpayload=text" works. I'll have to update my bug. | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | this new announcement of multitouch for maverick | 22:06 |
| penguin42 | CryWolf: Also subscribe to the one I pointed to? | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | does it work in every HW, or requires touchpads with support? | 22:06 |
| jono | Jordan_U, any ideas? | 22:06 |
| penguin42 | ok, new ia32-libs breaks flash | 22:06 |
| Jordan_U | jono: No, sorry. | 22:07 |
| CryWolf | penguin42: Probably worthwhile. | 22:07 |
| jono | Jordan_U, ok no worries, I will file a bug | 22:07 |
| penguin42 | CryWolf: It seems to cause different problems for different people - some it just kills boot completely, for you it's more subtle | 22:07 |
| CryWolf | It does seem to cause a lot of problems, though. I'm surprised it's not a FAQ. | 22:11 |
| penguin42 | yeh, how do we get stuff added to the faq? | 22:12 |
| CryWolf | Next trick, figuring out how to permanently change grub.cfg | 22:16 |
| yofel | CryWolf: edit /etc/default/grub | 22:16 |
| yofel | CryWolf: you need to change gfxpayload? | 22:16 |
| penguin42 | hi, can anyone on 64bit tell me what version of ia32-libs they have? | 22:17 |
| CryWolf | yofel: Found it. It's not there, it's /etc/grub.d/10_linux | 22:18 |
| Jordan_U | CryWolf: No, you want to edit /etc/default/grub | 22:18 |
| yofel | CryWolf: do not edit that file, you can change that in /etc/default/grub | 22:18 |
| CryWolf | I don't see it as an option in /etc/default/grub | 22:18 |
| CryWolf | penguin42: 2.7ubuntu26 | 22:19 |
| Jordan_U | CryWolf: set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text | 22:19 |
| yofel | CryWolf: add a line with '#GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text' in /etc/default7grub | 22:19 |
| yofel | without the # | 22:19 |
| penguin42 | CryWolf: And that's on a Maverick that was uptodate before today? | 22:19 |
| yofel | Jordan_U: no need for the 'set' | 22:19 |
| CryWolf | penguin42: Last update was a day or two ago. | 22:19 |
| penguin42 | ok, thanks | 22:19 |
| CryWolf | I wonder if I have an old /etc/default/grub from a previous version. | 22:20 |
| Jordan_U | yofel: I meant set as a verb not as syntax, but I see that was far from clear :) | 22:20 |
| CryWolf | I'll add that line. Thanks. | 22:20 |
| yofel | Jordan_U: oh, I misunderstood that ^^ | 22:20 |
| Jordan_U | CryWolf: The line you want to add is just "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text", without the quotes and without either "set" or "#" at the beginning. | 22:21 |
| Jordan_U | CryWolf: You can see all of the possible options for /etc/default/grub @ http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration | 22:22 |
| CryWolf | Looks like it's set now. Thanks. | 22:23 |
| penguin42 | ok - I can confirm going back to ia32-libs 2.7ubuntu6 gets flash going again; you might want to take a copy from your cache if youv'e still got it | 22:24 |
| yofel | you mean 2.7ubuntu26 ? | 22:25 |
| yofel | that version comes from lucid-updates | 22:25 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Interestingly I don't - I mean ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu6_amd64.deb which is the one I picked off ftp.ubuntu.com | 22:26 |
| yofel | erm, that's jaunty... | 22:27 |
| yofel | you can download the debs directly from the archive too http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/ | 22:27 |
| penguin42 | oops - let me try 26 | 22:27 |
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| penguin42 | yep still works with 26 | 22:29 |
| Ian_corne | penguin42: i have this as version Installed: 20090808ubuntu1 | 22:34 |
| penguin42 | Ian_corne: Does flash still work for you? | 22:34 |
| Ian_corne | err | 22:35 |
| Ian_corne | ues | 22:35 |
| Ian_corne | yes | 22:35 |
| Ian_corne | sec | 22:35 |
| Ian_corne | no! | 22:35 |
| * BUGabundo slaps Ian_corne back in place | 22:35 | |
| Ian_corne | missing plugin | 22:35 |
| Ian_corne | my flash games!! | 22:35 |
| penguin42 | no more kittens doing silly things | 22:36 |
| Ian_corne | ooh | 22:36 |
| Ian_corne | sushy cat | 22:36 |
| Ian_corne | know it? | 22:36 |
| penguin42 | Ian_corne: Bug 618900 if rolling ia32_libs back fixes it | 22:36 |
| Ian_corne | http://onemorelevel.com/game/sushi_cat_honeymoon | 22:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 618900 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 disappeared - broke flash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/618900 | 22:36 |
| Ian_corne | subbed and confirmed | 22:37 |
| Ian_corne | I've got youtube set to html5 so I don't notice it all that quick | 22:38 |
| Ian_corne | embeded is broken tho :( | 22:38 |
| Ian_corne | I still have it installed btw | 22:40 |
| Ian_corne | http://pastebin.com/aJFjrCHK | 22:40 |
| penguin42 | Ian_corne: That game is much too surreal | 22:42 |
| Ian_corne | :D | 22:43 |
| Ian_corne | full belly achieved! | 22:43 |
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| Ian_corne | OMG | 22:50 |
| Ian_corne | this means I can't play transformice... | 22:50 |
| Ian_corne | how can one "force version" via synaptic? | 22:52 |
| Ian_corne | It's greyed out | 22:52 |
| yofel | do you have lucid repos still enabled? maverick only has the newest version | 22:54 |
| Ian_corne | no | 22:54 |
| Ian_corne | ok | 22:54 |
| Ian_corne | i could do that | 22:54 |
| yofel | either install from /var/cache/apt/archives or download the deb from the mirror link I posted | 22:54 |
| Ian_corne | cache only has newest too | 22:55 |
| Ian_corne | hmm weird | 22:55 |
| yofel | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/ | 22:55 |
| Ian_corne | what's with the weird version name btw? | 22:55 |
| yofel | year/month/day ? | 22:56 |
| yofel | source snapshot I guess | 22:57 |
| yofel | or they stopped doing releases | 22:57 |
| Ian_corne | how should it then work magically? | 22:58 |
| Ian_corne | ah, I have to restart the browser | 22:59 |
| dutchie | hmm | 23:05 |
| dutchie | seem to be seeing a fair bit of "ImportError: libgirepository-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" on my maverick box | 23:05 |
| dutchie | even though it's definitely in /usr/lib | 23:05 |
| Ian_corne | I remember that being uninstalled | 23:08 |
| dutchie | oh dear | 23:10 |
| dutchie | update-manager just crashed | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | wait for ubuntu-bug crash too | 23:10 |
| dutchie | hmm, it seems to have gone mad now | 23:12 |
| * dutchie does the "Restart to complete upgrade" before continuing to try and fix it | 23:12 | |
| penguin42 | damn Ian_corne you and showing me Flash games | 23:15 |
| dutchie | it should be possible to change my real name without vipw | 23:16 |
| penguin42 | chfn | 23:17 |
| dutchie | heh | 23:17 |
| Ian_corne | haha penguin42 | 23:17 |
| dutchie | i meant gui-ly, but thanks | 23:17 |
| penguin42 | dutchie: You're right, the about me gui doesn't let you change that - BUG | 23:18 |
| dutchie | i'll file it as soon as i've finished upgrading | 23:18 |
| penguin42 | the deformation and jellyness of the cat in that game are an incredible piece of work | 23:23 |
| yofel | dutchie: is libgirepository1.0-1 really installed? | 23:25 |
| yofel | dutchie: note: NOT libgirepository1.0-0 | 23:25 |
| dutchie | dunno | 23:25 |
| yofel | dutchie: check with apt-cache policy in a terminal | 23:25 |
| yofel | oh wait | 23:26 |
| dutchie | it seems to have sorted itself out now | 23:26 |
| dutchie | and it is installed | 23:26 |
| yofel | well, ok, if that happens the app needs a rebuilt against new girepository | 23:26 |
| yofel | *rebuild | 23:27 |
| yofel | current is libgirepository-1.0.so.1 and the app looks for libgirepository-1.0.so.0 | 23:28 |
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