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dpmgood morning everyone!07:19
doctormoMorning dpm07:20
dpmhey doctormo :)07:20
doctormoUp to much today?07:20
aragood morning!07:58
kim0morning everyone07:59
dpmgood morning ara08:05
dpmgood morning kim008:05
kim0dpm: morning man08:05
dpmhey :)08:06
dholbachgood morning08:21
doctormomorning dholbach08:30
dholbachhi doctormo08:32
dpmheya dholbach!08:35
dholbachhey dpm08:35
AlanBello/08:54
* nigelb waves to all!09:12
nigelbMy passport application was accepted today.  30 days of wait and I might finally get my passport :)09:12
* JFo waves to nigelb 09:12
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nigelbJFo: heya! No sleep huh?09:12
JFonope09:13
nigelbheh :)09:13
JFotrying to sleep on the flight didn't work out09:13
* dholbach hugs JFo09:13
dholbachhi nigelb09:13
dholbachhola randa09:13
JFoand I was awake since midnight last night09:13
* nigelb hugs JFo too09:13
nigelbdholbach: my turn today?09:13
* JFo hugs dholbach 09:13
* JFo hugs nigelb :)09:13
dholbachnigelb: probably :)09:13
nigelbI'll post a "Thank you " to bug squad09:13
* dholbach needs to rush out to buy a laptop hard disk - I accidentally dropped the laptop yesterday09:13
dholbachnigelb: that'd be nice!09:14
* nigelb hugs dholbach 09:14
kim0dholbach: isn't yours a thinkpad09:26
kim0I think those has fall sensors to park disk heads09:27
randahi dholbach09:37
nigelbkim0: looks like it didn't get parked :p09:47
kim0ew ;)09:47
czajkowskiAloha, this lack of sleeping lark is gonna make me go insane one of these days10:04
* nigelb hugs czajkowski 10:11
czajkowski4am wake up sucks donkey balls10:13
czajkowskinigelb: *hugs*10:26
czajkowskiah hah! I found the annoying bug that well annoys the living daylights out of me https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/43944810:32
ubot2Ubuntu bug 439448 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 5 other projects) "visual corruption affecting several panel applets (affects: 346) (dups: 84) (heat: 1838)" [Medium,Triaged]10:32
dholbachkim0: yep, didn't get parked :)11:01
kim0dholbach: ew .. total data loss ?11:01
* czajkowski hugs dholbach 11:01
dholbachkim0: I dunno yet, I just bought a replacement disk and a 2.5′′→3.5′′ adaptor11:02
dholbach(and saw half of the city in the meantime just to find a shop that has everything I wanted)11:02
czajkowskidholbach: not a good start so to your monday then11:02
dholbachI guess it could have been worse somehow11:03
dholbachbut it doesn't help with my productivity11:03
* popey hugs the community11:05
* nigelb hugs The popey11:07
duanedesignmorning all11:48
czajkowskiduanedesign: morning11:48
duanedesignczajkowski: that gnome panel bug does sound annooying11:54
czajkowskiduanedesign: soo flipping annoying as I never know what it's going to draw correctly and I cant figure out why it does it sometimes and not the other11:58
czajkowskiwhich I find more annoying tbh11:58
duanedesignczajkowski: yeah their doesnt seem to be any clues as to what might be the issue from reading the comments :(12:01
czajkowskiduanedesign: no there are comments on how to leave a comment which I find annoying to read, but meh12:02
czajkowskiduanedesign: what I find sometimes is when I boot up, and boot up goes a bit cranky it renders stupidly12:02
czajkowskior if I put in my passowrd wrong once12:02
czajkowskithen it renders wrong12:02
czajkowskibut I cant prove that12:02
czajkowski:(12:02
czajkowskiHeart melting stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDbAxhV2ofM&feature12:05
duanedesignczajkowski: have to smile when you watch that :)12:11
czajkowskiyou do really there is no other reaction12:11
czajkowskiso cute12:11
akgranerkim0, hey!14:31
akgranerdid jono have a chance to review things?14:31
* nigelb hugs akgraner 14:31
akgranernigelb, hey!14:32
kim0akgraner: I guess I'll know in a couple of hours .. will let you know14:32
akgranerkim0, okie dokie - just didn't want to do anything til I heard from you  - I'll show you what I am going with14:33
akgranerdo you have a picture?  and I thought I would ask jono if I can use the one of all you guys in prague14:33
akgranernigelb, if you can clean up the audio I'll use it  - I just haven't had time lately14:33
nigelbakgraner: don't have much hope for the audio.  We'll redo :)14:34
akgranernigelb, it was taking way longer than I had hoped to get it all cleaned up :-/  or we can do another interview14:34
nigelbI kept interrupting you!14:34
akgranerhehe - :-)  no worries14:34
akgranerI'll send you the questions ahead of time14:35
akgranerand we can get that out of the way 1st and them yak about other things14:35
nigelbhahaha, true14:36
nigelbspeaking of yakking, your server went down?14:36
akgranerit's back up now14:37
nigelblooks like the podcast was way more famous than you expected ;)14:37
akgranergotta love development stuff14:37
popeyDear website team, please don't do this with ubuntu... http://thanks.debian.net/14:54
paultaghaha I saw that earlier14:54
paultagpopey: the BTS is like that too14:55
popeyyeah14:55
popeyinsane14:55
paultagit's great :(14:55
paultag:) *14:55
akgranerI need someone who works with Ubuntu and Debian who wants to help with the news team - the Debian New People contacted me wanting to do some cross-collaboration - if anyone thinks of someone can you let me know?  I'd like to give them another POC other than me in case I get hit by a bus15:09
akgranernews not new - sigh15:09
JFoheh Debian New People :)15:11
popeyakgraner: seen they're planning a podcast?15:13
popeyhttp://wiki.debian.org/ThisWeekInDebian15:14
akgranerpopey, nope haven't seen that yet  - I'll look now15:14
akgranerthey just wanted DPN wanted to work with UWN on some stories  - and while I understand things I don't always know what is the most relevant as I am not a developer - so I need someone to help make sure we include the right things and the things we post are a win for the Ubuntu Community and not just one sided15:16
akgranerwoo hoo - Alexander Reichle-Schmehl - getting involved as non-technical user15:17
akgranerI had a conversation at UDS with Stefano about this exact subject15:18
czajkowskilooking forward to chatting to him in dublin next month15:19
doctormoWoo! I've basically recovered from that DebConf man-cold! Bloody summer colds last forever.15:43
dholbachhola jono15:44
kim0morning jono15:48
jonohey dholbach, kim0 :)15:49
* doctormo joins in the jono hug15:49
* jono hugs doctormo15:49
jonoanything exciting happen while I was away?15:50
doctormojono: How long have you been gone? LinuxCon was last week?15:50
jonodoctormo, I went offline on Tues last week15:51
jonowell, went off IRC15:51
jonoI was streaming my recording online15:51
doctormoLinuxCon in Boston, showed a bunch of kernel hackers around Boston's tourist hot spots.15:51
dholbachjono: how did the recording go?15:51
jonodholbach, really well :)15:51
jonohttp://www.severedfifth.com/2010/08/16/nightmares-by-design-recording-update/15:52
dholbachjono: nice - what is still left to be done?15:52
jonovocals and some lead bits15:52
jonoand then mixing15:52
dholbachnice15:53
dholbachgood luck with all that!15:53
jonothanks!15:53
doctormojono: I did get the community done in a henna tattoo: http://imagebin.ca/view/LWJjUwa.html15:58
jonodoctormo, nice!15:59
doctormoHard to get the angle for the webcam there.15:59
jonoheh15:59
doctormoThey were doing penguins and such at LinuxCon, also a cartoonist was doing impression portraits.15:59
doctormoUDS could learn a lot from the randomness of LinuxCon! ;-)15:59
kim0jono: do we mumble16:00
jonokim0, we do, grabbing my headset16:00
vishdoctormo: hrm.. "man-cold!" new strain? o.016:00
JFodoctormo, I thought we were already pretty random :)16:03
PendulumJFo: obviously next time someone needs to bring the stuff to do henna and fake tattoos :P16:05
JFoPendulum... interesting16:06
JFoI'd have thought more along the permanent tattoo route :)16:07
JFowooo! check out my UDS-N ink!!16:07
akgranerJFo, will you have some time this afternoon for a call?16:07
akgranerlike after your day ends?16:07
PendulumJFo: well, I do suppose that would be more random16:08
JFowell, I am beat. but I shall see if I can make time for your highness ;-)16:08
akgranerJFo, thank you - I am not wearing the crown today   - so addressing me as Amber is fine :-P16:09
JFook :)16:10
akgranerJFo, I asked Pete to pull some stats on downloads from this weekend16:10
akgranerhe said he would later for us16:10
JFook cool :)16:10
doctormovish: Man cold: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXLHWmjA5IE16:21
jonokim0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoFAQ16:29
doctormojono: Should all that info migrate to or be linked from the loco directory?16:32
czajkowskipart of the loco council spring cleaning weekend for global jam16:33
paultag\o/16:34
paultagheyya doctormo16:35
paultagdoctormo: how's things?16:35
vishdoctormo: poor little bunny! ;p16:37
AlanBellare the ubuntu forums not letting people log on at the moment?16:37
nhandlerAlanBell: I've seen several people with that problem16:37
AlanBelllooks like nothing has been posted for 6 hours16:37
nhandlerAlanBell: They also are not posting my Fridge story or marking a thread as 'Read'16:37
AlanBellthe login process happens, but then you are not logged in16:38
nhandlerAlanBell: Well, I'm logged in ;)16:38
AlanBellgood for you!16:38
AlanBellare you really logged in though?16:38
doctormopaultag: Busy busy, yourself?16:38
paultagdoctormo: busy busy16:39
nhandlerAlanBell: Probably not. Most likely it would fail if I tried to log out and back in16:39
doctormopaultag: coffee?16:39
paultagdoctormo: yeah, when?16:39
paultagdoctormo: how does tom. afternoon sound?16:40
AlanBellnhandler: anyone good to poke about this?16:40
doctormopaultag: Sounds good, 1pm-ish? PiCon next week.16:40
paultagdoctormo: Hurmm, can we shoot for later? I'm at work until 3, so about 4ish ?16:40
doctormopaultag: About the evening is fine.16:41
paultagdoctormo: cool16:41
AlanBellnhandler: poked spads in canonical-sysadmin, they are going to take a look16:42
nhandlerAlanBell: I saw :)16:42
AlanBellhow on earth did it take 6 hours for this to be noticed? I don't really use the forums16:45
nhandlerAlanBell: It was noticed. But it takes time for the extent of the problem to be visible.16:47
nhandlerThat was fast. LWN.net already picked up the multitouch story17:07
paultag:D17:08
JFothey ave sticky fingers17:08
dholbachdpm: nice blog post!17:09
dholbachdpm: I live the options for the "are you going?" question: "yes" and "count me in"17:09
dholbach:-)17:09
AlanBelltempted to get one of the shiny apple touchpad things now17:09
czajkowskiwonder can we get the dell machine in EU the multitouch is being tested on17:10
doctormoAlanBell: Better to wait for something that can be installed. iPads still aren't linux friendly yet, the example running Linux I saw ran for 8 mins from full battery down to zero.17:11
AlanBellno, not an ipad17:12
AlanBellhttp://www.apple.com/magictrackpad/17:12
dpmdholbach, thanks! I'm glad you like it :)17:15
* dholbach hugs dpm17:17
* dpm hugs dholbach :)17:18
nigelbabuugh, I got screwed17:19
nigelbabuxubuntu doesn't let me in! I enter my username and password and I end up at login screen again.  Sigh.17:19
nigelbabudholbach: if you've got the time, can you take over for today's blog post? I think I'll be busy reinstalling Ubuntu :(17:19
dholbachnigelbabu: I have a call coming up in a bit17:21
dholbachnigelbabu: do you think we can find somebody else to blog?17:21
nigelbabudholbach: I will :)17:21
nhandlernigelbabu: I can do it if you want17:22
* dholbach had a reinstall-ubuntu experience today too17:22
dholbachnhandler: http://daniel.holba.ch/review/report has the report since last week17:22
nhandlerThanks dholbach17:23
* dholbach hugs nhandler17:23
* nigelbabu hugs nhandler 17:23
dholbach:-)17:23
nigelbabunhandler: can stagger your post?17:26
nigelbabupedro is writing a post via the Qa blog about the hug day report too :)17:26
nhandlernigelbabu: Just let me know when you want me to do it.17:27
nigelbabunhandler: I wonder if we should let this week's report come up on the QA blog.17:27
nigelbabuYou can join us on the rotation that jcastro, dholbach, and I do every week17:27
nhandlernigelbabu: Probably right about using the QA blog. Didn't they have a hug day for it ?17:28
nigelbabunhandler: yep, they did.17:29
nhandlernigelbabu: Just poke me the weekend before the Monday that you want me to post it, and I would be more than glad to do so.17:30
* nigelbabu hugs nhandler again :)17:31
jonodholbach, all set?17:31
dholbachjono: yep17:31
nhandlerThanks nigelbabu17:31
jonodholbach, http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-community-ubuntu-10.10.html17:48
jonodholbach, lets do skye17:50
jonoskype17:50
dholbachjono: I don't have skype installed on that machine yet17:50
jonodholbach, what number can I call you on?17:50
AlanBellanyone know how to escalate the issue with forums.ubuntu.com being broken, the #canonical-sysadmin people are having difficulty contacting the forums administrator18:02
AlanBellactually all of http://ubuntuforums.org/ not just the redirect. You can't log on at the moment and it has been down for 8 hours18:03
jussiAlanBell: you can sometimes fin forums ppls in #ubuntuforums18:05
AlanBellyeah, very very quiet there18:05
dpmok, I call it a day, see you all tomorrow!18:06
AlanBellthere have been no posts to the forum for 8 hours, I am amazed at the lack of people jumping up and down about this18:06
vishAlanBell: tried pinging duanedesign ?18:06
jussiAlanBell: I can log in...18:06
nhandlervish: he isn't an admin. Only a mod18:06
nhandlerjussi: Were you already logged in?18:06
vishnhandler: oh! , ok18:06
jussinhandler: no18:07
nhandlerjussi: Alright. I am logged in too (but I was logged in before the incident)18:07
AlanBelljussi: are you really logged in?18:07
jussimind, I am a mod in one forum, so that may affect it18:07
AlanBellit goes through the openid process but then leaves me logged out18:07
AlanBellhttp://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=331 <- not normal18:08
jussiAlanBell: http://imagebin.ca/view/Azhh4C.html18:08
czajkowskinigelb: you about ?18:08
AlanBelljussi: ok, I don't get that18:09
Pendulumczajkowski: I think he's gone to bed18:09
jussiAlanBell: it didnt go in the first time, but when I didnt do the impatient click the "if you arent redirected" thing, it went in18:10
czajkowskiahh ok18:10
czajkowskithanks Pendulum18:10
AlanBelljussi: I get "thankyou for logging in Alan Bell redirecting" then redirected me to a logged out state18:10
PendulumI get the same as AlanBell18:10
jussiAlanBell: see #ubuntuforums18:10
* dholbach calls it a day - see you all tomorrow *hugs*18:16
doctormobye dholbach18:17
czajkowskidholbach: nn18:18
dholbachbyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee18:18
vishyay! was able to post a comment, no problems there...18:20
vishoh , this is why i never logout!   ;p18:20
czajkowskijono: so do you want to have our call today ?18:20
jonoczajkowski, can we do it tomorrow, I am slammed, I just got back18:21
czajkowskijono: got loco council stuff tomorrow, maybe Thursday18:22
jonoczajkowski, sounds cool, thanks!18:23
czajkowskinp18:24
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JFoakgraner, you around?19:48
jcastrohi everyone20:02
jcastrojono: greetings from san diego20:03
jcastroI'll be home tonight, working tomorrow20:03
jcastrojono: also, MUSTAINE is doing a book signing on thursday, how cool is that20:04
Technovikingwhat is the canonical sysadmin room20:12
PendulumTechnoviking: they're aware20:12
paultag_#canonical-sysadmin20:12
paultag_Oh shucks20:12
paultag_+1 Pendulum20:12
Technovikingof the forums20:12
PendulumAlanBell talked to them earlier about the forums20:12
paultag_yeah Technoviking20:12
paultag_Technoviking: it's been down almost 9 hours, I think20:12
nhandlerTechnoviking: Yeah. And jdong was also poked. I guess ryan is the only one with shell access :(20:13
Technovikingwas hoping Ubuntu Geek would get the ping by now20:13
Technovikingsigh... damn embrassing20:13
paultag_Technoviking: not nearly as bad as using a nonfree fourms backend ;)20:13
paultag_Technoviking: I'm just messing around, I know, I know20:14
Technovikingpaultag_: watch it, or I will move the forums DB to Oracle BWHAHAHA!!!20:15
paultag_hahaha20:15
pleia2well played :)20:15
Technovikingpleia2: I knew the Evil Geniuses 101 class I took would come in handy20:16
pleia2hehe20:16
* paultag_ wishes that were real20:16
paultag_I'd so be an Evil Studies major20:16
Technovikingit is a db sync issue in mysql, don't think reboot the server will help20:18
scott-workjcastro: Dave has a book out?  hmmm, might have to check that out21:55
akgranerkim0, here is the link to your interview - thanks!  http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu/Ubuntu-s-growing-plans-to-add-more-Cloud-contributors-to-the-Open-Source-Atmosphere22:53
doctormoHey akgraner23:32

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