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dholbachgood morning08:21
Pendulumdo we have an agenda for today's meeting?14:01
czajkowskihmm14:05
czajkowskino but we should really14:05
czajkowskiPendulum: want to create an agenda I need to nip out for 2014:42
Pendulumczajkowski: any ideas for what should be on it?14:43
czajkowskiupdate on bp14:44
czajkowskiplans for the future14:44
czajkowskiis there a future in the team14:44
Pendulumthe agenda is now on the wiki15:11
czajkowskithanks15:13
czajkowskiI'll send a reminder mail15:13
Pendulum:)15:13
czajkowskidone15:15
astraljavaThanks Laura for the reminder. :) Made me realize I wasn't even hanging on the correct #. :)15:29
czajkowskiastraljava: it was Pendulum that remembered15:31
czajkowskiI've been a bit busy with stuff lately15:31
astraljavaI can relate. :)15:32
PendulumI was checking to make sure a meeting had posted to fridge correctly and happened to notice15:32
Pendulumcomplete coincidence15:32
czajkowskialoha17:59
czajkowskiso anyone here for the meeting17:59
czajkowskigive it another few mins17:59
czajkowskibac: cjohnston foobacca highvoltage hexmode issyl0 JanC mgdm Pendulum pleia2 txwikinger18:00
cjohnstonhuh?18:00
czajkowskiMeeting starting in about two mins18:00
txwikingero/18:00
czajkowskijust highlighting folks18:00
czajkowskithought it was easier that way18:00
pleia2too busy at work today, sorry :(18:00
czajkowskinp18:00
AlanBello/18:00
cjohnstonumm.. sure.. im here for the meeting?18:01
cjohnstonheh18:01
czajkowskihmm no mootbot18:01
czajkowskioh well18:02
czajkowskiMEETING NOW18:02
czajkowskiAGENDA - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/Meeting18:02
czajkowskievening folks who's here for meeting18:02
czajkowskio/18:02
txwikingero/18:02
czajkowskiok..18:03
AlanBello/18:03
czajkowskiwell apologies first for not following up on meetings, just been crazy and for some unkonwn reason I seem to have forgotten about ngo stuff with a lot of other work18:03
Pendulumhiya18:03
czajkowskithanks to Pendulum for rmembering today18:03
* skellat Raises hand to acknowledge presence18:03
Pendulumo/18:03
AlanBellczajkowski: do #startmeeting18:04
czajkowskiso we have this blueprint from UDS = https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-ngo-team18:04
czajkowski#startmeeting18:04
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Aug 16 17:01:56 2010 UTC.  The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell.18:04
meetingologyupdated18:04
meetingologyUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.18:04
meetingologyupdated18:04
czajkowskiwhoo18:04
czajkowski[link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/Meeting18:05
czajkowski[topic] Blueprint18:05
meetingologyTOPIC: Blueprint18:05
czajkowski[link] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-ngo-team18:05
czajkowskiso I know I have a few items on there18:05
czajkowskibut wondering how folks are getting on with theirs18:05
czajkowskihexmode: how are you getting on ?18:06
hexmode:P not so well18:06
czajkowskihighvoltage: any progress18:06
hexmodeno progress18:06
czajkowskiok maybe we need to try and share out some work to get it done?18:06
czajkowskihexmode: would it help to get some help ?18:06
hexmode(back)18:07
hexmodethe only person here I know that could help would be dholbach and he has already done a lot18:08
hexmodemostly it is just me prioritizing18:08
czajkowskiok18:08
hexmodethe work isn't that hard, I just have to make sure I leave myself time to do it :)18:08
czajkowskiI know time management18:09
hexmodeczajkowski: did you happen to get in touch with the sysadmin at wikimedia?18:09
czajkowskitis hard when we all have stuff going on18:09
czajkowskihexmode: it's a fdrafted mail to go out18:09
czajkowskiSo I've done up a doc for sample Questions https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1pgUq8PdJJvojyPRNGb6gDGf6QEgem-LNHRejOirTWt0&authkey=CL34h8oH&hl=en&pli=1#18:09
czajkowskibe nice to get some input as to what folks would like to know from an interview18:10
czajkowskiso please edit it as you feel18:10
czajkowski[link] https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1pgUq8PdJJvojyPRNGb6gDGf6QEgem-LNHRejOirTWt0&authkey=CL34h8oH&hl=en&pli=1#18:10
hexmodeexcellent... someone in the office was talking recently about the number of Macs and perhaps getting Ubuntu installed on them18:10
hexmode( I don't know how serious they were... )18:10
skellatI've already added a question to the Google doc18:10
czajkowskiskellat: which is ?18:11
skellatHow exactly does the organization use ICT tools in regards to carrying out their functions.  Sometimes that is non-obvious depending upon the mission of the organization.18:11
czajkowskiskellat: right so some of the questions will be more specific based on the group18:12
czajkowskibut what would be nice is to get about 8 -10 standard questions and then one that follow on from them based on say their type of group18:12
czajkowskiskellat: have you read some of the case studies we've done so far18:12
skellatczajkowski: I've been camping out at work too much and forgot to catch up prior to your e-mail this morning.18:13
czajkowski[link] http://ubuntungo.wordpress.com/18:13
czajkowskiok so I hope for this month that we can make some headway in the action items18:13
czajkowskianyone else have any comments on blueprints and action items?18:14
hexmodewhen is the next irc meeting?18:14
hexmodeso I can set some goals?18:14
czajkowskihexmode: 3rd monday of the month18:14
hexmodeok....18:14
skellatHave we determined what the common set of applications is yet?18:14
* hexmode notes it18:14
czajkowskiskellat: what do you mean ?18:15
skellatczajkowski: "work on documenting set-up and install for common applications for NGOs: TODO"18:15
hexmodeczajkowski: fwiw, I think WMF is using CiviCRM18:16
czajkowskithat would be nigel and he's not here18:16
czajkowskiso I cant update on that18:16
skellatczajkowski: Alrighty.  That'll have to wait.18:16
czajkowskiok18:16
czajkowskiright so moving on18:16
czajkowski[topic] Future plans for the team18:16
meetingologyTOPIC: Future plans for the team18:16
czajkowskiSO I do wonder is there enough interest in this team, or is it just something that is in the backgroud that can just be worked on from time to time18:17
czajkowskiI know we have case studies but sometimes it's hard to find them18:17
skellatczajkowski: Can the case studies be migrated to the wiki or another appropriate depository?18:17
czajkowskibut I'd either like to find out what we could do better so we can come up with a action plan or what18:17
czajkowskiskellat: some are on the wiki and the others as they are very long are on the blog18:17
czajkowskias the blog is on the planet18:18
czajkowskiso read by more people18:18
czajkowskiskellat: would you like to see the posts on the wiki as well do you think?18:18
hexmodeczajkowski: for me right now this is a background task.  I want to help, but my time is limited.  Packaging on Debian is probably my best way to contribute.18:19
skellatczajowski: At this point, we need to collect them into preferably one source.  The wiki is one possibility.  Glomming them altogether into a word processing file and making it available as a monolithic set might be good too.18:19
AlanBellone thing I am working on starting up is the Ubuntu For All project which will support various teams https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll -ngo is not currently on the list, do you think it should be?18:19
skellatAlanBell: Yeah, we probably should be part of that too.18:19
czajkowskiskellat: ok, so I've copied all the ones that are on the wiki to the blog18:19
czajkowskibut would you think it'd be a good idea to have them all on the wiki as well in case folks are searching from there18:20
czajkowskihexmode: I know this cycle has been very odd for me18:20
czajkowskihow about I'll  look into it and see if it's not too big a task18:21
skellatczajkowski: The big thing is to have them collected in one spot.  The wiki would be good.  Releasing the cases as a collection would help us show NGOs that we are taking coordinated action instead of one-off matters.18:22
czajkowskiok18:22
czajkowski[action] czajkowski to copy over intereviews that are not on wiki from blog to wiki18:22
meetingologyACTION: czajkowski to copy over intereviews that are not on wiki from blog to wiki18:22
skellatczajkowski: Posting the whole collection to archive.org wouldn't hurt either, I suppose.18:22
czajkowski[topic] Monthly Report18:22
meetingologyTOPIC: Monthly Report18:22
czajkowskican I please have a volunteer to create the monthly report and mail the list asking for updates on it18:23
czajkowskithat way it gets done but we can all add content to it18:23
czajkowski[link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/TeamReports18:23
* skellat Raises hand to volunteer18:23
czajkowskigreat18:23
czajkowski[action] skellat to update monthly report and mail team asking for any other comments on it18:23
meetingologyACTION: skellat to update monthly report and mail team asking for any other comments on it18:23
czajkowskiskellat: thank you18:23
czajkowski[topic] AOB18:23
meetingologyTOPIC: AOB18:23
AlanBellah, this is the better place to raise the ubuntu for all topic really18:24
czajkowskithanks fo coming folks lets see if we can inject some caffine into the team18:24
czajkowski[topic] Add Ubuntu NGO to the Ubuntu For All project which will support various teams https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll18:24
meetingologyTOPIC: Add Ubuntu NGO to the Ubuntu For All project which will support various teams https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll18:24
skellatAlanBell: Could you please summarize the nature of UbuntuForAll for the record?18:25
AlanBellwhat exactly it does is a little wooly at the moment, but it is a project to support various non-loco non-technical teams18:25
AlanBellmaking sure they are running smoothly, attending and monitoring meetings, helping with monthly reports etc18:26
czajkowskiok so sort of like a helper and somwerhe that lists non loco stuff18:26
AlanBellso if a team kind of drifts off then we would try and get it going again18:26
AlanBellyeah something like that18:27
czajkowskiok18:27
czajkowskiI think it'd be good to have us listed there18:27
skellatAgreed18:27
czajkowskiat least it's more visability18:27
AlanBellgreat, I will update it accordingly, and let you know more about it as it kicks off18:28
czajkowski[action] AlanBell to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll with NGO details18:28
meetingologyACTION: AlanBell to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll with NGO details18:28
czajkowskiany other comments before I end the meeting18:28
skellatAlanBell: Could you send a post to our fairly sleepy mailing list too?18:28
AlanBellwill do skellat18:28
skellatAlanBell: Thank you.18:28
czajkowski[action] AlanBell to mail mailing list re https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll18:29
meetingologyACTION: AlanBell to mail mailing list re https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll18:29
czajkowski#endmeeting18:29
meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Aug 16 17:26:51 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4)18:29
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meetingologyLog:            http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-ngo/2010/ubuntu-ngo.2010-08-16-17.01.log.html18:29
czajkowskiohhhhhhhhhhh18:29
skellatczajkowski: What?18:29
czajkowskithe links above18:30
czajkowski:D18:30
czajkowskiright I'll be back in a wee bit for the evening18:30
AlanBellyeah, don't believe them18:30
czajkowskiI need to cook some food18:30
czajkowskithanks for coming18:30
AlanBellI will sort out the minutes somewhere czajkowski18:30
skellatczajkowski: You're welcome, ma'am.18:30
AlanBellthat is my development bot, logs are actually on my desktop18:30
czajkowskihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/Meeting18:31
skellatAlanBell: Somehow I pulled up the minutes by clicking on the link, though...18:31
skellatAlanBell: Should that have been possible?18:31
AlanBellah, ok, yes I did do that18:31
AlanBellyou are reading them from my desktop all the same!18:31
skellatAlanBell: Excellent!18:32
skellatHave a good day, all.18:32
highvoltageczajkowski: eek, sorry I missed it, that will also have to be deferred for maverick+1 since we're already in feature freeze (I'll give more details later)19:55

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