[08:21] good morning [14:01] do we have an agenda for today's meeting? [14:05] hmm [14:05] no but we should really [14:42] Pendulum: want to create an agenda I need to nip out for 20 [14:43] czajkowski: any ideas for what should be on it? [14:44] update on bp [14:44] plans for the future [14:44] is there a future in the team [15:11] the agenda is now on the wiki [15:13] thanks [15:13] I'll send a reminder mail [15:13] :) [15:15] done [15:29] Thanks Laura for the reminder. :) Made me realize I wasn't even hanging on the correct #. :) [15:31] astraljava: it was Pendulum that remembered [15:31] I've been a bit busy with stuff lately [15:32] I can relate. :) [15:32] I was checking to make sure a meeting had posted to fridge correctly and happened to notice [15:32] complete coincidence [17:59] aloha [17:59] so anyone here for the meeting [17:59] give it another few mins [18:00] bac: cjohnston foobacca highvoltage hexmode issyl0 JanC mgdm Pendulum pleia2 txwikinger [18:00] huh? [18:00] Meeting starting in about two mins [18:00] o/ [18:00] just highlighting folks [18:00] thought it was easier that way [18:00] too busy at work today, sorry :( [18:00] np [18:00] o/ [18:01] umm.. sure.. im here for the meeting? [18:01] heh [18:01] hmm no mootbot [18:02] oh well [18:02] MEETING NOW [18:02] AGENDA - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/Meeting [18:02] evening folks who's here for meeting [18:02] o/ [18:02] o/ [18:03] ok.. [18:03] o/ [18:03] well apologies first for not following up on meetings, just been crazy and for some unkonwn reason I seem to have forgotten about ngo stuff with a lot of other work [18:03] hiya [18:03] thanks to Pendulum for rmembering today [18:03] * skellat Raises hand to acknowledge presence [18:03] o/ [18:04] czajkowski: do #startmeeting [18:04] so we have this blueprint from UDS = https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-ngo-team [18:04] #startmeeting [18:04] Meeting started Mon Aug 16 17:01:56 2010 UTC. The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell. [18:04] updated [18:04] Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. [18:04] updated [18:04] whoo [18:05] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/Meeting [18:05] [topic] Blueprint [18:05] TOPIC: Blueprint [18:05] [link] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-ngo-team [18:05] so I know I have a few items on there [18:05] but wondering how folks are getting on with theirs [18:06] hexmode: how are you getting on ? [18:06] :P not so well [18:06] highvoltage: any progress [18:06] no progress [18:06] ok maybe we need to try and share out some work to get it done? [18:06] hexmode: would it help to get some help ? [18:07] (back) [18:08] the only person here I know that could help would be dholbach and he has already done a lot [18:08] mostly it is just me prioritizing [18:08] ok [18:08] the work isn't that hard, I just have to make sure I leave myself time to do it :) [18:09] I know time management [18:09] czajkowski: did you happen to get in touch with the sysadmin at wikimedia? [18:09] tis hard when we all have stuff going on [18:09] hexmode: it's a fdrafted mail to go out [18:09] So I've done up a doc for sample Questions https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1pgUq8PdJJvojyPRNGb6gDGf6QEgem-LNHRejOirTWt0&authkey=CL34h8oH&hl=en&pli=1# [18:10] be nice to get some input as to what folks would like to know from an interview [18:10] so please edit it as you feel [18:10] [link] https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1pgUq8PdJJvojyPRNGb6gDGf6QEgem-LNHRejOirTWt0&authkey=CL34h8oH&hl=en&pli=1# [18:10] excellent... someone in the office was talking recently about the number of Macs and perhaps getting Ubuntu installed on them [18:10] ( I don't know how serious they were... ) [18:10] I've already added a question to the Google doc [18:11] skellat: which is ? [18:11] How exactly does the organization use ICT tools in regards to carrying out their functions. Sometimes that is non-obvious depending upon the mission of the organization. [18:12] skellat: right so some of the questions will be more specific based on the group [18:12] but what would be nice is to get about 8 -10 standard questions and then one that follow on from them based on say their type of group [18:12] skellat: have you read some of the case studies we've done so far [18:13] czajkowski: I've been camping out at work too much and forgot to catch up prior to your e-mail this morning. [18:13] [link] http://ubuntungo.wordpress.com/ [18:13] ok so I hope for this month that we can make some headway in the action items [18:14] anyone else have any comments on blueprints and action items? [18:14] when is the next irc meeting? [18:14] so I can set some goals? [18:14] hexmode: 3rd monday of the month [18:14] ok.... [18:14] Have we determined what the common set of applications is yet? [18:14] * hexmode notes it [18:15] skellat: what do you mean ? [18:15] czajkowski: "work on documenting set-up and install for common applications for NGOs: TODO" [18:16] czajkowski: fwiw, I think WMF is using CiviCRM [18:16] that would be nigel and he's not here [18:16] so I cant update on that [18:16] czajkowski: Alrighty. That'll have to wait. [18:16] ok [18:16] right so moving on [18:16] [topic] Future plans for the team [18:16] TOPIC: Future plans for the team [18:17] SO I do wonder is there enough interest in this team, or is it just something that is in the backgroud that can just be worked on from time to time [18:17] I know we have case studies but sometimes it's hard to find them [18:17] czajkowski: Can the case studies be migrated to the wiki or another appropriate depository? [18:17] but I'd either like to find out what we could do better so we can come up with a action plan or what [18:17] skellat: some are on the wiki and the others as they are very long are on the blog [18:18] as the blog is on the planet [18:18] so read by more people [18:18] skellat: would you like to see the posts on the wiki as well do you think? [18:19] czajkowski: for me right now this is a background task. I want to help, but my time is limited. Packaging on Debian is probably my best way to contribute. [18:19] czajowski: At this point, we need to collect them into preferably one source. The wiki is one possibility. Glomming them altogether into a word processing file and making it available as a monolithic set might be good too. [18:19] one thing I am working on starting up is the Ubuntu For All project which will support various teams https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll -ngo is not currently on the list, do you think it should be? [18:19] AlanBell: Yeah, we probably should be part of that too. [18:19] skellat: ok, so I've copied all the ones that are on the wiki to the blog [18:20] but would you think it'd be a good idea to have them all on the wiki as well in case folks are searching from there [18:20] hexmode: I know this cycle has been very odd for me [18:21] how about I'll look into it and see if it's not too big a task [18:22] czajkowski: The big thing is to have them collected in one spot. The wiki would be good. Releasing the cases as a collection would help us show NGOs that we are taking coordinated action instead of one-off matters. [18:22] ok [18:22] [action] czajkowski to copy over intereviews that are not on wiki from blog to wiki [18:22] ACTION: czajkowski to copy over intereviews that are not on wiki from blog to wiki [18:22] czajkowski: Posting the whole collection to archive.org wouldn't hurt either, I suppose. [18:22] [topic] Monthly Report [18:22] TOPIC: Monthly Report [18:23] can I please have a volunteer to create the monthly report and mail the list asking for updates on it [18:23] that way it gets done but we can all add content to it [18:23] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/TeamReports [18:23] * skellat Raises hand to volunteer [18:23] great [18:23] [action] skellat to update monthly report and mail team asking for any other comments on it [18:23] ACTION: skellat to update monthly report and mail team asking for any other comments on it [18:23] skellat: thank you [18:23] [topic] AOB [18:23] TOPIC: AOB [18:24] ah, this is the better place to raise the ubuntu for all topic really [18:24] thanks fo coming folks lets see if we can inject some caffine into the team [18:24] [topic] Add Ubuntu NGO to the Ubuntu For All project which will support various teams https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll [18:24] TOPIC: Add Ubuntu NGO to the Ubuntu For All project which will support various teams https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll [18:25] AlanBell: Could you please summarize the nature of UbuntuForAll for the record? [18:25] what exactly it does is a little wooly at the moment, but it is a project to support various non-loco non-technical teams [18:26] making sure they are running smoothly, attending and monitoring meetings, helping with monthly reports etc [18:26] ok so sort of like a helper and somwerhe that lists non loco stuff [18:26] so if a team kind of drifts off then we would try and get it going again [18:27] yeah something like that [18:27] ok [18:27] I think it'd be good to have us listed there [18:27] Agreed [18:27] at least it's more visability [18:28] great, I will update it accordingly, and let you know more about it as it kicks off [18:28] [action] AlanBell to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll with NGO details [18:28] ACTION: AlanBell to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll with NGO details [18:28] any other comments before I end the meeting [18:28] AlanBell: Could you send a post to our fairly sleepy mailing list too? [18:28] will do skellat [18:28] AlanBell: Thank you. [18:29] [action] AlanBell to mail mailing list re https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll [18:29] ACTION: AlanBell to mail mailing list re https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll [18:29] #endmeeting [18:29] Meeting ended Mon Aug 16 17:26:51 2010 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4) [18:29] Minutes: http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-ngo/2010/ubuntu-ngo.2010-08-16-17.01.html [18:29] Minutes (text): http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-ngo/2010/ubuntu-ngo.2010-08-16-17.01.txt [18:29] Log: http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-ngo/2010/ubuntu-ngo.2010-08-16-17.01.log.html [18:29] ohhhhhhhhhhh [18:29] czajkowski: What? [18:30] the links above [18:30] :D [18:30] right I'll be back in a wee bit for the evening [18:30] yeah, don't believe them [18:30] I need to cook some food [18:30] thanks for coming [18:30] I will sort out the minutes somewhere czajkowski [18:30] czajkowski: You're welcome, ma'am. [18:30] that is my development bot, logs are actually on my desktop [18:31] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO/Meeting [18:31] AlanBell: Somehow I pulled up the minutes by clicking on the link, though... [18:31] AlanBell: Should that have been possible? [18:31] ah, ok, yes I did do that [18:31] you are reading them from my desktop all the same! [18:32] AlanBell: Excellent! [18:32] Have a good day, all. [19:55] czajkowski: eek, sorry I missed it, that will also have to be deferred for maverick+1 since we're already in feature freeze (I'll give more details later)