| lfaraone | bernie: btw, we should totally look into setting up monkeysphere for SugarLabs SSL / HTTPS services | 02:59 |
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| bernie | lfaraone: yup | 07:04 |
| bernie | lfaraone: sunjammer already has a signed gpg key | 07:05 |
| bernie | lfaraone: signed by me, that is. you might want to sign it as well | 07:05 |
| === bernie is now known as bernie_afk | ||
| === bernie_afk is now known as bernie | ||
| === bernie is now known as bernie_afk | ||
| manusheel | neeraj, kandarpk: Hi Neeraj and Kandarp. | 15:14 |
| kandarpk | manusheel: hello sir. | 15:14 |
| neeraj | manusheel: Hi sir | 15:14 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: As we are working on the next task on activity development, do we need any help on fixing the bug assigned to you? | 15:15 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Did we finally arrive at the set of steps for creating a patch? | 15:15 |
| kandarpk | manusheel: sir, I am not able to reproduce the frame bug on my system. | 15:16 |
| neeraj | manusheel: Yes. I think so. kandarpk sir, you were able to create patch using quilt and debdiff. Right? | 15:16 |
| kandarpk | neeraj: ankur had already created the patch. | 15:17 |
| kandarpk | neeraj: but I understand the process. | 15:17 |
| neeraj | kandarpk sir: Ok. I thought both of you were working on different bugs. | 15:17 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: ok. | 15:18 |
| manusheel | neeraj: Sure. | 15:18 |
| dfarning | alsroot, manu ping | 15:25 |
| alsroot | dfarning: yup | 15:26 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Hi David. | 15:27 |
| dfarning | alsroot, manusheel lfaraone I just wanted to let manusheel and luke know that you will be mentoring the sugarteam! | 15:27 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Thank you. Appreciate it. | 15:28 |
| manusheel | alsroot: Our team looks forward to working under your guidance in the development area. | 15:28 |
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| dfarning | manusheel, can you set up a scheudal that works for alsroot and the developers working on IST (indian standard time) | 15:29 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Sure. | 15:29 |
| * alsroot is ok w/ 09.00-21.00 in UTC | 15:29 | |
| manusheel | alsroot: Great. | 15:30 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, can you show alsroot the ropes on how to mentor a team to make the transformation to sugar hackers. | 15:31 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: sure. | 15:31 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, your work with the team has been exceeding my expectations:) | 15:31 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: did you get my google talk messages earlier today, by the way? | 15:32 |
| dfarning | alsroot, manusheel, lfaraone thanks. I'll go away and try to stay out of your way:) | 15:32 |
| manusheel | alsroot: Let us arrive at a plan on how we could define a series of meetings at IRC to go through - walking through the code, functionalities in operating system, logging levels in Python, how we can build a development roadmap for the next 2 months. | 15:33 |
| manusheel | dfarning: :-) | 15:33 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, sorry I am having connection issues.... the sun is shinning. | 15:33 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: ah, I see :) | 15:33 |
| dfarning | yes yes said that browse should be ok but .90 might be a problem. | 15:34 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, I though the timing the ubuntu was to release just after the latest stable gnome release. | 15:34 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, thus .90 was considered a bug fix to .89 which we are running. | 15:35 |
| kandarpk | lfaraone, dfarning, alsroot: Hi | 15:36 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: hi | 15:36 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: I am following the activity development manual at http://en.flossmanuals.net/ | 15:37 |
| kandarpk | will ask you when in doubt. | 15:37 |
| dfarning | kandarpk, good morning. I was just letting the channel know that you guys are now better sugar developer them I am so we had to bring in a expert to help you take the next step:) | 15:37 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: sure | 15:37 |
| manusheel | dfarning: Appreciate it. | 15:38 |
| kandarpk | dfarning: I would love working with alsroot, he sure is an expert at creating actvities :) | 15:39 |
| kandarpk | and understanding the OS. | 15:39 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: we're shipping 0.88 in Maverick, not 0.89 | 15:40 |
| dfarning | hmmm. I thogught we had updated it. Will that be a problem? | 15:41 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: that, combined with the fact that the FinalFreeze is on Sept 16. | 15:41 |
| manusheel | lfaraone: Ok. | 15:42 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: If you want, upstream has a predictable schedule (which SL does), then sure, propose it. (talk in #ubuntu-motu about it) | 15:43 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, ok, can you see what you can do? the telepathy refactoring is a significant improvement.... but It is not worth getting anyone riled up about. | 15:44 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, we can deal with the .91 to .92 update next release. | 15:45 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: right now I'm reviewing a patch by the SEETA folks in a VM, then I'm writing the bug guidelines, then I'll be testing pyxpcom. | 15:46 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: If you want I can switch over to lobbying for a FFe now, but I'll have to table all of that other stuff for an hour+ to talk to the right people etc. | 15:46 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, np .92 is at the bottom of your current todo list. | 15:47 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: 0.90, you mean? | 15:48 |
| lfaraone | (which we currently aren't slated to ship until Ubuntu-N, 11.04) | 15:48 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, yes. but technically .92. is below .90 on your todo:) | 15:48 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: re browse renaming, I've heard some things about that at DebConf too... | 17:28 |
| dfarning | lfaraone, what did you hear? | 17:30 |
| lfaraone | dfarning: iirc zack said that we may at some point in the future have "firefox" in debian. | 17:31 |
| dfarning | Ahh yes I just read that this morning. That would help fix the mozilla browser situation in both ubuntu and debian. | 17:32 |
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| ishan | alsroot, hi | 17:45 |
| alsroot | ishan: hi | 17:45 |
| ishan | alsroot, where are the changes in the time and wireless radio implemented?? | 17:49 |
| ishan | in sugar | 17:49 |
| alsroot | ishan: heh :), wireless support was added just recently to glucose.. need to look into code -- what do you mean by "time"? | 17:51 |
| ishan | alsroot, where are the changes in the time zones implemented in sugar?? | 17:53 |
| manusheel | alsroot; I think Ishan is referring to the time zones setting in the control panel. | 17:53 |
| alsroot | ishan: see extensions/cpsection/datetime directory, it is datetime control panel component | 17:54 |
| alsroot | ishan: and also extensions/cpsection/network for wireless | 17:55 |
| ishan | alsroot, okay let me check | 17:55 |
| alsroot | ishan: you can just grep sugar sources, for I have all sucrose sources and bunch of activities and periodically grep them for strings | 17:56 |
| alsroot | s/for /for example/ | 17:56 |
| manusheel | alsroot: Thank you. Ishan, this should be helpful. | 17:57 |
| ishan | manusheel, yes sir | 17:57 |
| lfaraone | alsroot: To solve "When opening the control panel some icons are cut off", https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/617582, neeraj disabled the padding that separated sugar-control-panel from the rest of the UI, making it fullscreen. | 18:00 |
| lfaraone | alsroot: is that an acceptable deviation? (I'm not sure if it's in the HIG) | 18:01 |
| * alsroot looks | 18:01 | |
| lfaraone | alsroot: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2530/screenshotdl.png <- screenshot of result of patch in a VM | 18:03 |
| alsroot | neeraj: I think, #617582 might be fixed in more reliable way (otherwise it will be all time a play w/ offsets), /me tries to figure out | 18:08 |
| alsroot | neeraj: maybe tweaking _MAX_COLUMNS constant according to current screen resolution | 18:15 |
| manusheel | alsroot: Thanks for the pointer. Neeraj will be back soon. He has gone to the market. | 18:16 |
| manusheel | alsroot: Will inform him as soon as he comes back. | 18:16 |
| lfaraone | alsroot: I'll mention that in the bug,t hen | 18:16 |
| * alsroot has a widget that handles such issues.. but it is in Vala and might in glucose only in 0.92+ | 18:18 | |
| alsroot | :/ | 18:18 |
| * lfaraone is on to pyxpcom | 18:19 | |
| neeraj | alsroot: Thanks for the suggestion. At present bys etting _MAX_COLUMNS to 3 (3 items in a row), we can easily view all 9 items. :) | 18:53 |
| alsroot | neeraj: you can just run sugar-emulator with several "-i <width>x<height>" and "-s (100|72)" combinations to see how it will look like | 19:03 |
| neeraj | alsroot: Ok. I ran the emulator in different resolution and full screen to. The control panel is adjusting the spacing accordingly. :) | 19:10 |
| neeraj | s/to/too | 19:11 |
| manusheel | kandarpk: Around? | 19:14 |
| kandarpk | manusheel sir: yes sir. | 19:14 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: around ? | 19:48 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: yup | 19:48 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: can you please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/479000/ | 19:49 |
| kandarpk | I've added lines 79 onwards | 19:49 |
| kandarpk | to add a button | 19:49 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: but it is not getting displayed. | 19:50 |
| * alsroot tries | 19:51 | |
| alsroot | hmm.. after last glucose update sugar is not working as assumed, /me tries to fix | 19:54 |
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| kandarpk | alsroot: is the code ok, if we ignore the errors in sugar ? | 19:58 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: looks like.. /me still trying to figure out why this code doesn't start | 20:01 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: Ok. | 20:02 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: do we need to add the button as we have done for the label using 'self.set_canvas(label)' ? | 20:06 |
| kandarpk | *though self.set_canvas(button) doesn't work | 20:06 |
| * alsroot reset sugar back to 0.88 | 20:10 | |
| alsroot | kandarpk: well, your code works for me what did you mean for "is not working as assumed" | 20:11 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: I dont see any button on running the activity | 20:11 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: sorry, had to restart X, you mean button from rotate()? | 20:16 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: yes. | 20:16 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: but you don't add it to activity canvas in code you posted before | 20:17 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: yeah, tried adding it later, but that didn't work. | 20:18 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: in fact, there is a gtk.Container - canvas, you need to add all widgets there | 20:18 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: you tried to use set_canvas() once more? | 20:19 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: I'll try again. | 20:19 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: just create your container e.g. gtk.VBox, add there button and other widgets and call set_canvas(vbox) | 20:20 |
| alsroot | s/and/and place/ | 20:20 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: Ok, giving it a try. need to look how to add the controls to the container. | 20:22 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: http://library.gnome.org/devel/pygtk/stable/class-gtkcontainer.html#method-gtkcontainer--add, and there are special method in containers like gtk.VBox (see the same doc page) | 20:23 |
| alsroot | *methods | 20:23 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: Ok, thanks. | 20:24 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: in fact I don't like pygtk docs, imho, pure gtk is much useful e.g. it shows classes hierarchy http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkVBox.html | 20:26 |
| alsroot | I mean also child class not only parents | 20:27 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: hmm, that provides better hierarchical info. | 20:34 |
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| kandarpk | alsroot: please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/479029/ | 20:37 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: should work (if you will call rotate()) | 20:38 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: oops, you forgot to call show() for container | 20:39 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: Ok. | 20:40 |
| kandarpk | yes | 20:40 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: btw, there is also show_all(), some time (when there are no hidden by intention widgets), it is useful to show the entirely hierarchy by one call | 20:42 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: Ok. | 20:43 |
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| kandarpk | alsroot: the button and label are present now. | 20:43 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: but the label isn't rotating on clicking the button | 20:44 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: yup, because you recreate it every hello() call, create label as self.label in __init__() | 20:45 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: isn't the angle changing ? | 20:46 |
| alsroot | kandarpk: heh, there is another fail, 'clicked' handler, should accept additoinal argument (sender of event) | 20:50 |
| alsroot | gtk should log about | 20:50 |
| alsroot | it | 20:50 |
| alsroot | so in your code "self.button.connect('clicked', self.hello, None)", hello() should take even 3 arguemnts, hello(self, sender, arg-for-None) | 20:51 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: "TypeError: hello() takes exactly 1 argument (3 given)" | 20:51 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: great. | 20:52 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: Its working now. :) | 21:00 |
| kandarpk | alsroot: thanks | 21:00 |
| alsroot | yw | 21:00 |
| kandarpk | Time to sleep. | 21:19 |
| kandarpk | gn everyone. | 21:19 |
| ssn | hi | 22:56 |
| ssn | i installed some activites via apt-get but there is no browser and no interesting activities in the repository ppa:sugarteam/ppa | 22:58 |
| manusheel | ssn: Ok. | 23:05 |
| manusheel | ssn: Which activities would you like to see? | 23:06 |
| manusheel | ssn: Can you please send me an e-mail on the activities that you would like to see in USR at manu@seeta.in. | 23:07 |
| manusheel | Thanks. | 23:07 |
| ssn | ok ignore my email, i just read that browse does not work in ubuntu | 23:15 |
| manusheel | ssn: It is yet to be packaged. | 23:17 |
| manusheel | :-) | 23:17 |
| manusheel | ssn: We'll get it packages soon. | 23:17 |
| ssn | the problem is, that i want to introduce a couple of teachers to sugar, but i still did not find a good (german language) solution that works live and lets me install also | 23:18 |
| manusheel | ssn: Ok. | 23:37 |
| manusheel | ssn: You are right. | 23:37 |
| manusheel | ssn: We are still in the development phase in USR project. In a couple of months, you'll see a good solution. | 23:38 |
| ssn | Im looking forward to it | 23:38 |
| manusheel | ssn: It would be great if you could send me a set of features that you have found missing, or working unexpectedly. | 23:38 |
| manusheel | ssn: We'll try and make improvements in those lines. | 23:38 |
| manusheel | ssn: We'll also make efforts in internationalization of Sugar. | 23:39 |
| ssn | i will, its just a little crazy right now because i am also "developing" a media education distro for my bachelor thesis. now that also teachers for smaller children got interested in my attempts to push free software into schools, i have to come up with something that works for the little ones | 23:40 |
| manusheel | ssn: Sure. Please take your time. Appreciate it. | 23:43 |
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