[00:03] <Sarvatt> knittl: probaby fallout from nvidia-96,173 and fglrx having been forcibly removed from jockey for now because they dont work
[00:07] <RAOF> Good morning.
[00:08] <RAOF> asac: Good gallium for 965, for Maverick?  No.
[00:08] <RAOF> Even though you're not here.
[00:08] <Sarvatt> probably not maverick+1 either
[00:10] <RAOF> Not unless someone wants to devote some resources to it.
[00:10] <RAOF> Gah.  Stupid UTC+10
[00:10] <RAOF> You wake up just as the people looking into the bug you're after go to sleep
[00:10] <ajmitch> RAOF: yay for mondays? :)
[00:15] <RAOF> Eh.
[00:16]  * RAOF is disappointed that Adobe's DNG converter doesn't process the lens distortion data into it's nice, documented format.
[08:50] <knittl> morning. how do i find out which graphics driver is currently in use?
[08:51] <RAOF>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what drivers have loaded, and which one(s) are in use
[09:03] <knittl> thanks RAOF 
[09:06] <knittl> in maverick i get an error/warning message on boot
[09:06] <knittl> conflicting fb hw, disabling generic driver
[09:06] <knittl> something like that. is that ok?
[09:06] <RAOF> That's not a warning, and it's expected.
[09:07] <knittl> Aug 16 09:52:18 kbook kernel: [   16.914621] fb: conflicting fb hw usage nouveaufb vs VESA VGA - removing generic driver
[09:07] <knittl> ok :)
[09:12] <RAOF> C'mon.  Fix the server crash, fix the server crash!
[09:13] <knittl> does standby work for you?
[09:13] <RAOF> Yes.
[09:13] <RAOF> Even on my nouveau laptop.
[09:14] <RAOF> Urgh.  It won't fix the server crash until it compiles!
[11:23] <czajkowski> RAOF: are you about ?
[11:25] <czajkowski> RAOF: just wondering if you could possibly look into/comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/605041
[11:25] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 605041 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "High usage of the cpu - up to 100% (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[11:45] <gord> these nvidia 2d performance regressions on anyones radar? was only happening to me a few weeks ago but noticed a few others coming forward too. i know its kinda hard with binary drivers =\
[12:10] <tseliot> gord: ??
[12:11] <tseliot> gord: if you file a bug report about it, I'll tell Nvidia about it
[12:11] <gord> tseliot, ever since around the end of last month, nvidia binary drivers have been suffering some huge 2d performance issues. 3d works fine, but just drawing a gtk window or switching tabs or anything is painful. makes xorg cpu usage go crazy. its hard to define though and doesn't seem to affect everyone
[12:11] <gord> tseliot, will do
[12:12] <tseliot> ok, thanks
[13:37] <RAOF> gord: I thought that was fixed with the new cairo upload?
[13:37] <RAOF> It certainly fixed it for the nouveau drivers :)
[13:37]  * RAOF goes back to sleep
[13:40] <czajkowski> :(
[15:30] <Sarvatt> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 is the support forum for nvidia where the people who can actually fix the blob post in case it helps
[15:32] <Sarvatt> just looking through the first few pages it seems like 2D has regressed a ton on the GPU's that can't do trapezoid acceleration on 256.xx
[15:39] <Sarvatt> aka i dont see anyone on a gt200 or newer (or ion) complaining about 2D performance. the new cairo disabled server side gradients unconditionally and that was something the blob accelerated, I wouldn't be surprised if that caused even more of a performance hit and that was uploaded aug. 4th
[15:44] <tseliot> aah, so it's the issue with cairo. Now it makes sense
[15:47] <gord> Sarvatt, my desktop at home has a gtx260 that has 2d performance issues
[15:48] <Milos_SD> Hi
[15:48] <Milos_SD> Sarvatt, 
[15:48] <gord> its just that it has a quad core i7, so you don't notice it. its only when looking at top and seeing xorg go crazy you notice. i would assume a lot of other people on gt200's have good cpu's like that taking the brunt of the performance problems
[15:49] <Sarvatt> gord: does nvidia-settings -a PixmapCacheRoundSizeKB=16000 help any?
[15:49] <seb128> ideally the cairo changes would be on some drivers only
[15:49] <seb128> if somebody want to work on that ;-)
[15:50] <Milos_SD> I think there is a but with new libpixman package that was sent today
[15:50] <seb128> if filter on known buggy drivers
[15:50] <Milos_SD> notify-osd bubble is not showed as it should
[15:50] <gord> Sarvatt, not on this machine (9600gtm), can't say about my desktop until i am home 
[15:50] <Milos_SD> here is the screenshot: http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=16-060157L&rand=5836&t=jpg&m=08&y=2010&srv=img5
[15:50] <Sarvatt> its really a problem with the blob hitting software fallbacks way too often not really cairo
[15:52] <Milos_SD> is there a way to downgrade that package to previuse one?
[15:53] <Sarvatt> Milos_SD: do you have it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ still?
[15:53] <Milos_SD> no I don't :(
[15:55] <Sarvatt> Milos_SD: amd64 or i386?
[15:55] <Milos_SD> amd64
[15:56] <Sarvatt> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pixman/0.18.2-1/+build/1741447
[15:56] <Sarvatt> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pixman/0.18.2-1/+build/1741447/+files/libpixman-1-0_0.18.2-1_amd64.deb
[15:57] <Sarvatt> Milos_SD: let me know if it works correctly again when you downgrade please
[15:58] <Milos_SD> ok, but it was this version: libpixman-1-0 (0.19.1+git20100722.bf125fbb-0ubuntu0sarvatt~lucid) to 0.19.1+git20100815.8a5d1be1-0ubuntu0sarvatt~lucid
[15:58] <Milos_SD> :D
[15:58] <Sarvatt> oh you mean in xorg-edgers!
[15:59] <Sarvatt> i just updated it in maverick too and thought you meant that :D
[15:59] <Milos_SD> in xorg-edgers for lucid
[15:59] <Milos_SD> :)
[16:00] <Sarvatt> Milos_SD: http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pixman/
[16:00] <Sarvatt> grab it quick because it only stores the latest 2 versions and i'm about to update it again so the 0722 will go away :)
[16:02] <Milos_SD> Sarvatt, thanks
[16:02] <Milos_SD> I'll try if it works
[16:02] <Milos_SD> maybe the new version will work after you update it :)
[16:03] <Milos_SD> Sarvatt, it works now
[16:03] <Milos_SD> thanks :D
[16:04] <Sarvatt> possibly, they stopped supporting alpha maps with alpha maps completely and then added some handling to it if it happens just after i updated it yesterday
[16:05] <Sarvatt> its uploading now
[16:05] <Milos_SD> yes, it happened after that update
[16:05] <Milos_SD> :)
[16:07] <Sarvatt> Milos_SD: what GPU do you have and what driver are you using btw? I can't reproduce it on intel
[16:08] <Milos_SD> Sarvatt, Nvidia 7600 GT PCIe and 256.44 drivers
[16:08] <Milos_SD> in that screenshot compiz is on
[16:08] <Milos_SD> but if I use only metacity, that part of notify-osd is darker then other part of it
[16:09] <Sarvatt> yay so more 2D brokenness with the blob? :)
[16:09] <bjsnider> the 7k cards have significantly older hardware than 8k and newer
[16:10] <Milos_SD> Sarvatt, but it worked ok before that update today/yesterday :)
[16:10] <bjsnider> the blob is basically optimized for 8k and newer
[16:10] <Sarvatt> yeah but it's not broken on nouveau or intel for me so it might have broken something they didn't expect that the blob uses I'm thinking
[20:34] <czajkowski> RAOF: are you up ?
[22:07] <jono> hi all
[22:07] <jono> my X is seg-faulting - http://pastebin.com/gUmYb3Xv - I just wanted to check if this was a known issue
[22:07] <jono> (in Maverick)
[22:08] <jcristau> that's out of date maverick
[22:08] <jcristau> is it reproducible with the latest version?
[22:10] <jcristau> could be fixed by the patch in <yunk4nrtdoi.fsf@aiko.keithp.com> if so
[22:11] <czajkowski> Just wondering if anyone could comment on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/605041  someone was talking about it yesterday on identi.ca and looking for help 
[22:11] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 605041 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "High usage of the cpu - up to 100% (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[22:11] <jono> jcristau, I just did  dist-upgrade
[22:12] <jcristau> your log says xorg-server 2:1.8.1.902-0ubuntu2
[22:12] <jcristau> but, xorg-server | 2:1.8.99.905-1ubuntu2 |      maverick | source
[22:12] <jono> jcristau, hmmm
[22:12] <jono> how do I upgrade it?
[22:15] <jono> jcristau, when was that published?
[22:16] <jcristau> i have no idea
[22:17] <jono> it is weird that I have an old package
[22:20] <jono> jcristau, ok I managed to install it
[22:21] <jono> it was in my apt cache but not installed
[22:21] <jono> so I installed it and it still segfaults
[22:21] <jcristau> time to try that patch then