=== kai_62656 is now known as BDC-kracker === BDC-kracker is now known as kracker[BDC] [05:07] is there any difference in file size or packages advantage, by installing the ubuntu studio packages vs individually? [05:08] i dont think so [05:08] should be the same zus [05:08] just easier [05:08] to get the meta-package [05:08] if its got the stuff you want in it [05:08] hi holstein :) [05:08] :) [05:09] i found the mint KDE always been meaning to try it. [07:18] good morning and day! [07:18] hey bryan_r59 [07:18] Is ubuntu studio adequate enough within a virtual machine? i have plenty of ram to give it [07:19] and i think most 3d modeling packages use system ram [07:20] one more thing if it isn't too much trouble to answer: how much disk space would a beginner artist need for his ubuntu studio to be used to full potential? [07:21] you can try it [07:21] but i would say you need to run blender and the like on metal [07:21] if you go the Vbox route [07:21] lol [07:21] you can have the images grow [07:21] yeah i am c hoose dynamic [07:21] video files are stupid large [07:22] oh good point :) [07:22] and audio projects can take up space [07:22] but we usually record audio to a seperate HD [07:22] anyways [07:22] i would say 20GB minimum [07:22] that would be a comfortable place to get your feet wet [07:23] bryan_r59: i think a wubi install would be much more adequate [07:23] and just as non-permanant [07:23] aight, i gave it 50 just in case. Also is it me, or does somehow having a better video card make the file size of images smaller? [07:23] i mean on my host os [07:23] hmmm [07:24] not sure about that [07:24] the file format i save as in the same i am sure [07:24] compression too [07:24] but i see a huge difference in the generated file size, even on huge screen shots and stuff [07:24] i suppose something in the rendering could be different [07:25] but i would think that would be processor before graphics [07:25] but again, im just not sure [07:25] i havent really paid much attention [07:25] * holstein is an audio guy [07:26] Ok one last question. I have a Webcam that worked on my Windows 7 HOST OS, but since i switched to ubuntu 10.04 as my HOST, it can't detect is through VLC or CHEESE, and on the Windows GUEST it also cannot find it [07:26] will ubuntu studio remedy this? [07:27] bryan_r59: no [07:27] theres not a whole lot of difference [07:27] ok . then one more last question lol [07:27] bryan_r59: if you go to synaptic [07:27] and search ubuntustudio [07:27] you can see the meta packages that make up ubuntustudio [07:27] thats really about it [07:27] oh [07:27] bryan_r59: there might be a package here and there [07:27] driver-wise [07:28] but mostly wacom tablet support [07:28] that kind of thing [07:28] As an artist, what cam do you recommend as a webcam? i will go buy one now, if you have a recommendation [07:28] not webcams [07:28] bryan_r59: just google [07:28] ok [07:28] and save you recipts ;) [07:28] ttyl and ty [07:28] bryan_r59: [07:28] when you run lsusb [07:28] in terminal [07:28] do you see the webcam? [07:28] listed? [07:29] one sec [07:29] what is the webcam? [07:29] Bus 002 Device 004: ID 041e:403c Creative Technology, Ltd Webcam Live! Ultra [07:29] bryan_r59: thats good [07:29] that you see it there [07:30] you should be able to get it working i would guess [07:30] i will google further for that too then [07:30] good idea [07:30] let us know ;) [07:30] :) * [07:31] bryan_r59: sometimes its as simple as enabling the backports repository [07:31] and installing a package [07:35] i did so, but update manager and hardware drivers under administration found nothing to help [07:35] thanks for the suggestion though [07:35] might help later on [07:36] hardware drivers is typically for proprietary extra drivers [07:36] you'll have to find the package [07:36] IF thats what is needed [07:36] im just guessing really [07:36] it could be incompatible [07:36] but if you see it when you run lsusb [07:36] there is usually hope [07:36] bryan_r59: good luck [23:07] hi [23:08] i have problem [23:08] with audio [23:08] no midi audio in output using hydrigen [23:10] hey plotino [23:10] you got other sound? [23:11] plotino: you got JACK running properly? [23:18] nooooooooo [23:18] when i start jack [23:18] it stucks [23:18] saying .... Starting [23:18] and i have to kill ot [23:18] AH [23:19] well i would start there [23:19] is there any conflict with pulseaudio? [23:19] ok [23:19] you have procedure to follow? [23:19] :) [23:19] go to http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html [23:19] the first srceenshot is what you get when you launch jack control from the menu [23:20] then click on 'setup' [23:20] that will get you to the 2nd sreenshot [23:20] m [23:20] ok [23:20] plotino: is this an onboard soundcard? [23:22] plotino: is this ubuntu lucid? [23:22] is it a studio install? [23:23] or did you upgrade from standard ubuntu? [23:23] it is a ubuntu studio new installl [23:23] OK [23:23] the card is SB Live Platinum [23:23] run in a terminal [23:23] 5+1 [23:23] uname -a [23:23] ok [23:23] generic, preempt, or realtime? [23:23] or just paste the output here [23:23] its not much [23:24] i use a soundblaster live [23:24] as a coaster ;) [23:24] so i dont get a ring on my desk from my beer glass :) [23:24] * holstein kidding [23:24] problems!! [23:24] holstein, [23:25] nah [23:25] i have tried to start jack again [23:25] it'll work [23:25] plotino: dont start it yet [23:25] but it freezed my desktop [23:25] hit the stop button [23:25] i dont get to open the shell :( [23:25] stop button doesn not answere [23:25] it's like winzoz [23:25] alt F2 [23:26] or control alt F2 [23:26] if not [23:26] you'll just have to restart i suppose [23:26] but we need to talk about those settings [23:26] and run a few tests [23:26] before starting JACK [23:27] ok [23:28] i recovered the shell [23:28] ok [23:28] so you have suggested me to setup jack as recommended in that site [23:28] plotino: nah [23:29] thats just for us to talk about [23:29] ah ok [23:29] so we know we are looking at the same thing [23:30] yes [23:31] OK [23:31] so run uname -a [23:31] past that here [23:31] wait [23:31] i launch the chat on the PC with ubutnu studio [23:31] paste* [23:32] OK [23:32] theres not much [23:32] many commands i mean [23:32] just a few more [23:33] holstein, [23:33] yup [23:33] 2.6.32-24-generic [23:33] OK [23:33] run [23:33] sudo adduser you audio [23:33] LIKE [23:33] my username is holstein [23:34] so [23:34] i do [23:34] sudo adduser holstein audio [23:34] you should be my user name , isnt it? [23:34] ok [23:34] probably will say you already in that group [23:34] exactly [23:34] OK [23:35] do you have sound otherwise? [23:35] sound works? [23:35] yes [23:35] OK [23:35] we'll skip running aplay -l then [23:35] SO [23:35] but i have always to set the correcrt output in pulse audio volume control [23:35] run jack control [23:35] and click setup [23:35] aplay -L [23:35] gives me an error [23:35] aplay -l [23:36] lowercase l [23:36] ah sorry [23:36] aplay -l and arecord -l [23:36] no that's ok [23:36] those just let you konw what ALSA is able to use [23:36] ANYWAY [23:36] just launch jack control [23:36] click setup [23:36] yes [23:37] and we'll both be looking at [23:37] http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html [23:37] the 2nd screenshot [23:37] on the left side [23:37] there is a check box [23:37] for realtime [23:37] UNcheck that [23:37] ok [23:37] done it [23:37] then in the bottom right [23:37] you see latency... [23:37] what is that? [23:38] msec [23:38] yeah [23:38] 69.7 msec [23:38] OK [23:39] thats probably cool [23:39] samplerat [23:39] you probably want that to be 44100 [23:39] there are 2 other settings that we tweak a lot [23:39] you think that it is quite low [23:39] ? [23:39] frames/periods [23:39] and periods/buffer [23:39] plotino: its not low [23:40] but you'll be OK getting that with no realtime kernel and that SBlive [23:40] thats probably do-able [23:40] ok [23:40] you might be able to get that down to 20msec [23:40] but i wouldnt sweat it [23:41] if you dont use soft synths [23:41] or do any realtime effects processing [23:41] OK [23:41] frames/periods [23:41] what is that? [23:41] 1024? [23:41] 512? [23:42] wait [23:42] yup? [23:42] 1024 [23:42] OK [23:42] and periods/buffer 3? [23:42] 3 [23:42] OK [23:42] those are the 2 you should mess with [23:42] everything else is going to be OK [23:43] if you get an RT kernel [23:43] you just come in and check that realtime box [23:43] OK [23:43] save and close [23:43] and hit the start button [23:44] i try [23:44] error [23:44] what is the error? [23:44] could not connect to jack server as client [23:44] overall operation failed [23:44] unable to connect to server [23:45] OK [23:45] plotino: open the terminal [23:45] and run sudo qjackctl [23:45] i have to start the server? [23:45] and try starting it [23:45] the same [23:46] OK [23:46] so close that [23:46] and lets go back to jack control from the menu [23:46] and go to 'setup' again [23:47] plotino: did you mirror those settings? [23:47] priority should be default [23:47] not 25 [23:48] serverpath should just be what it was default too [23:48] driver should be ALSA [23:48] mirror? [23:48] i m checking [23:48] nothing under paramapters should be checked [23:49] piority is disabled [23:50] the same is the default [23:50] priority should be default [23:50] cannot load driver module alsa [23:50] says the log message window [23:51] i cannot change priority [23:51] yeah? [23:51] plotino: just hit the down button [23:51] it'll get around to default eventually [23:51] down button? [23:52] yeah [23:52] theres 2 buttons [23:52] to the right of 'priority' [23:52] tiny buttons [23:53] http://pastebin.com/ [23:53] you can paste your output there [23:53] and i can give it a look [23:54] all the error messages [23:54] holstein, thank you very much but now i have to go [23:54] it's late in italy [23:54] plotino: gotcha [23:54] i hope to meet again to fix this issue [23:54] we'll get you rolling some other time :) [23:54] thanks again [23:54] ok [23:54] bye and nice to meet you