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| === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac | ||
| abhijit | hi | 08:41 |
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| kermiac | hi seb128, I know you're extremely busy atm but did you get a chance to test the gedit hook mate? bug 582253 | 09:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 582253 in gedit (Ubuntu) "Apport hook for gedit (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582253 | 09:05 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| stanley_robertso | hi all | 10:06 |
| stanley_robertso | Guys.. I remember.. there is a weblink to request for a mentor for ubuntu bugsquad.. but i lost the link.. can somebody let me know the link | 10:07 |
| yofel | stanley_robertso: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors | 10:22 |
| nigelb | yofel: shortcut, poke vish :p | 10:26 |
| * vish pokes nigelb ;p | 10:27 | |
| nigelb | hahaha | 10:27 |
| stanley_robertso | Thanks yofel .. i have placed my request now | 10:41 |
| stanley_robertso | Not sure.. who will be looking into it | 10:41 |
| JFo | that reminds me | 10:53 |
| JFo | I haven't sent an update to the list about my excellent mentee | 10:53 |
| JFo | :) | 10:53 |
| vish | stanley_robertso: did you read the wiki yofel gave you? ;) | 11:07 |
| stanley_robertso | yes vish | 11:07 |
| stanley_robertso | i went through it.. and then applied for membershiop .. anything that i missed ? | 11:07 |
| vish | stanley_robertso: the "How to request a mentor" section? | 11:08 |
| stanley_robertso | yes | 11:08 |
| stanley_robertso | I followed the same. | 11:08 |
| vish | stanley_robertso: read again :) | 11:08 |
| nigelb | vish: re: that trackpad bug | 11:12 |
| nigelb | the person complaining has probably never used a notebook and used a place where copy & paste isn't allowed. | 11:12 |
| vish | nigelb: trackpad! me? | 11:12 |
| nigelb | (or ctrl +V is disabled by default) | 11:12 |
| vish | nigelb: oh that.. | 11:12 |
| * nigelb used putty for sometime | 11:13 | |
| vish | nigelb: if you see the comments, i'm totally confused by the bug... i just reverted the status.. | 11:13 |
| nigelb | vish: ah, ok | 11:28 |
| === e-jat is now known as ejat | ||
| nigelb | pedro_: you around? | 14:20 |
| nigelb | fluxbox has like 14 bugs and the maintainer wants to work with us on clearing them | 14:20 |
| nigelb | (the debian maintainer) | 14:20 |
| pedro_ | nigelb, yes | 14:20 |
| paultag | heyya nightwish | 14:21 |
| paultag | Oh shucks nigelb * | 14:21 |
| nigelb | pedro_: meet paultag. He's the debian maintainer of fluxbox. | 14:21 |
| pedro_ | nigelb, 9 New, 3 Confirmed, 1 Incomplete and 1 Fix Committed | 14:21 |
| pedro_ | hello paultag! | 14:21 |
| paultag | heyya pedro_ :) | 14:21 |
| nigelb | is it big enough for a hug day or we just get down and dirty? | 14:22 |
| nigelb | paultag: Option A, you can look at the bugs and suggest what we need to do. | 14:23 |
| nigelb | Option B, you can talk to jcastro and get bug control access. | 14:23 |
| pedro_ | nigelb, isn't having a lot of bugs for a bug day, I'd go ahead and triage those with some bugsquad help ;-) | 14:23 |
| nigelb | pedro_: seems reasonable to me. I'll sit down tonight with paultag on those. | 14:24 |
| paultag | thanks pedro_, nigelb :) | 14:24 |
| nigelb | Just 14 bugs, should take only an hour or so to figure out | 14:24 |
| pedro_ | paultag, if you have some instructions for debugging that'd be great as well so our community members can help you to triage the bugs there too | 14:24 |
| pedro_ | and we can also put the product in the adopt a package list | 14:24 |
| paultag | pedro_: sure. I can note the status they should be on the bugs, and then have someone blast through. I don't mind spending time on it | 14:24 |
| nigelb | paultag: You mail the bug squad list asking for help btw. | 14:24 |
| paultag | nigelb: :) | 14:24 |
| jcastro | who needs bugcontrol? | 14:25 |
| nigelb | (and offering help with the debuging) | 14:25 |
| jcastro | I just happen to be in there | 14:25 |
| * nigelb hugs jcastro | 14:25 | |
| paultag | Oh heyya jcastro | 14:25 |
| nigelb | paultag: Its your lucky day! | 14:25 |
| paultag | nigelb: any day with jcastro is never my lucky day | 14:25 |
| * paultag hugs jcastro | 14:25 | |
| pedro_ | hahaha | 14:25 |
| paultag | jcastro: thanks :) | 14:25 |
| nigelb | jcastro: paultag is the upstream maintainer for fluxbox and he wants bug control. | 14:25 |
| nigelb | There are some 14 bugs or so and he's recently pushed a new release of fluxbox :) | 14:26 |
| jcastro | done! | 14:26 |
| paultag | thanks jcastro :) | 14:26 |
| * nigelb hugs jcastro again | 14:27 | |
| nigelb | jcastro: back from vacation? | 14:27 |
| jcastro | yeah | 14:27 |
| nigelb | \o/ | 14:27 |
| devildante | everyone: shouldn't the [MIR] Banshee bug not be on the list of the bug day? | 14:54 |
| yofel | devildante: no it shouldn't, can you remove it from the list please? | 14:55 |
| devildante | yofel: okay :) | 14:56 |
| devildante | yofel: done :) | 14:57 |
| yofel | thanks | 14:58 |
| devildante | yofel: np | 14:58 |
| devildante | everyone: is banshee-dbg enough to have a good backtrace? | 15:05 |
| yofel | well, you'll need the debug packages of the used libraries too | 15:05 |
| devildante | yofel: thanks :) | 15:07 |
| abhijit | hello | 15:07 |
| abhijit | kermiac, ping | 15:07 |
| devildante | hi abhijit :) | 15:07 |
| abhijit | devildante, hello I have one doubt | 15:07 |
| devildante | abhijit: what is it? | 15:07 |
| abhijit | devildante, i need to submit one bug about suound. bug is whenever i am in fullscreen game - any game - e.g. beneath stell sky, mary any then at that time fn + and fn - and fn <mute> these three functions key dont work. | 15:08 |
| abhijit | devildante, so question is which is the package to submit bug against? | 15:09 |
| abhijit | maryo, freecol, wideland any application or game which go to fullscreen | 15:09 |
| abhijit | devildante, ?? | 15:10 |
| devildante | abhijit: I *think* this is a known bug, lemme search | 15:10 |
| abhijit | devildante, ok | 15:11 |
| pedro_ | guys if you have an identi.ca account or twitter, help out to spread the word about next bug day ;-) | 15:16 |
| paultag | pedro_: when is it? | 15:16 |
| pedro_ | Thursday 19th August | 15:16 |
| paultag | ( and do you have a link to the announcement ) | 15:16 |
| paultag | thanks pedro_ :0 | 15:16 |
| paultag | :) * | 15:16 |
| pedro_ | I've sent some announcement, wait a sec | 15:17 |
| yofel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100819 | 15:17 |
| paultag | thanks yofel :) | 15:18 |
| pedro_ | if you can digg it too http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/100 | 15:18 |
| devildante | abhijit: didn't find it, I think you could file a bug against xserver-xorg (not sure) | 15:19 |
| devildante | thanks pedro_ :) | 15:19 |
| abhijit | devildante, not sure! :-( | 15:19 |
| yofel | abhijit: maybe ping crimsun_ - he should know more | 15:20 |
| abhijit | crimsun_, ping | 15:20 |
| abhijit | yoasif, ok | 15:20 |
| abhijit | pedro_, you know? | 15:20 |
| yofel | might be something in SDL, at least I think I reproduced that once | 15:20 |
| devildante | yofel: yeah, I suspected that as well | 15:20 |
| abhijit | hmm | 15:20 |
| devildante | yofel: I'd say also SDL, since apps that go full-screen like firefox and chromium aren't affected | 15:21 |
| abhijit | devildante, yoasif hey i am talking about full screen fire fox etc | 15:22 |
| nigelb | yofel: dan has sorta decreased his ubuntu sound involvement (just FYI) | 15:22 |
| abhijit | you guys got the difference between any other aps fullscreen and a game's fullscreen? | 15:22 |
| nigelb | yofel: though he does sponsor from time to time | 15:23 |
| yofel | nigelb: I know, but he still knows a hundred times more about audio than I do... | 15:23 |
| abhijit | devildante, yoasif when we go to game fullscrenn we only have control over to game only not the windows behind it | 15:23 |
| devildante | abhijit, nigelb, yofel: *all* functions keys doesn't work when fullscreen, btw | 15:23 |
| nigelb | yofel: hehe, agreed. There is #ubuntu-audio-help too. Not sure how many people are in there. | 15:23 |
| abhijit | devildante, no | 15:23 |
| abhijit | devildante, brightness function key work for me | 15:23 |
| devildante | abhijit: yes, but without the bubble, so I think it should be that the game/SDL captures those hotkeys | 15:25 |
| yofel | I can't mute/unmute in warzone fullscreen, but brightness change works fine | 15:25 |
| abhijit | devildante, bubble? you mean notification? then yes brightness key work but withouht notification | 15:25 |
| devildante | the thing is, on my ncomputer, if | 15:25 |
| devildante | whoops | 15:25 |
| devildante | the thing is, on my computer, only brightness works when fullscreen, not the other function keys | 15:26 |
| abhijit | devildante, yoasif tell me on thing. suppose now i just submit a bug for sdl so later someone find that its not sdl bug then we will change package. is that ok? | 15:26 |
| nigelb | yes, it is. | 15:26 |
| nigelb | We do that all the time. | 15:26 |
| devildante | abhijit: yeah :) | 15:26 |
| abhijit | nigelb, devildante ok now i submit | 15:26 |
| yofel | abhijit: btw, I'm yofel, not yoasif.. | 15:26 |
| devildante | yoasif :p | 15:26 |
| abhijit | yofel, :D | 15:27 |
| abhijit | hey | 15:27 |
| abhijit | package sdl dont exist on my ubuntu? :-o | 15:27 |
| abhijit | :( | 15:27 |
| abhijit | devildante, yofel nigelb ??? | 15:27 |
| yofel | there is libsdl1.2debian/-pulseaudio/-oss/-alsa/... choose one | 15:28 |
| devildante | abhijit: libsdl1.2 is the source package | 15:28 |
| nigelb | you can only file on a binary package | 15:28 |
| abhijit | i see | 15:28 |
| abhijit | yah i first written ubuntu-bug sdl. now i written libsdl1.2debian-alsa and now it worked. now submitting it | 15:30 |
| nigelb | great :) | 15:30 |
| abhijit | :) | 15:30 |
| abhijit | yofel, devildante nigelb can you just mark my bug as afffect to you? | 15:33 |
| devildante | abhijit: which bug? | 15:33 |
| abhijit | devildante, this sound one | 15:33 |
| devildante | which bug number? | 15:33 |
| abhijit | devildante, yofel nigelb https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/619256 | 15:33 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 619256 in libsdl1.2 (Ubuntu) "Function keys wont work in fullscreen game (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 15:34 |
| devildante | ubot2 is slooow | 15:34 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'is slooow' not found | 15:34 |
| abhijit | yah | 15:34 |
| abhijit | but it is intelligent! | 15:34 |
| devildante | ubot2 intelligence | 15:34 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'intelligence' not found | 15:34 |
| abhijit | :) | 15:34 |
| abhijit | devildante, yofel nigelb can someone please mar this as confirmed? | 15:35 |
| devildante | abhijit: okay | 15:35 |
| abhijit | devildante, thanks | 15:35 |
| devildante | done :) | 15:35 |
| devildante | abhijit: can you search for it upstream and file a bug if there isn't already one there? | 15:36 |
| abhijit | devildante, upstream where?] | 15:37 |
| devildante | abhijit: libsdl upstream: http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/ | 15:38 |
| abhijit | devildante, but wer not clear yet about if it is sdl bug or not? | 15:40 |
| abhijit | we* | 15:40 |
| devildante | abhijit: I think the sdl guys could determine this | 15:40 |
| abhijit | devildante, ok | 15:41 |
| devildante | but search for the bug first | 15:41 |
| abhijit | yah | 15:41 |
| abhijit | yofel, nigelb can you please that bug as affect to you? | 15:41 |
| abhijit | devildante, does this bug addresses my fullscreen issue? | 15:45 |
| abhijit | devildante, http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670 | 15:45 |
| ubot2 | bugzilla.libsdl.org bug 670 in events "Multimedia keys and dead keys no longer working" [Normal,Waiting] | 15:46 |
| devildante | abhijit: yes, now link it to the launchpad bug (do you know how to do that?) | 15:48 |
| abhijit | devildante, no i dont know how to do that? | 15:49 |
| devildante | abhijit: click on "also affects project" | 15:50 |
| abhijit | devildante, ok | 15:50 |
| abhijit | devildante, yes clicked new page opened | 15:50 |
| abhijit | devildante, now added that bug link right? | 15:51 |
| devildante | yes :) | 15:51 |
| abhijit | devildante, now tell me. in this way only launchpad people will know that this bug is there in upstream. but how sdl people will know that a bug is reported downstream in launchpad? | 15:52 |
| abhijit | ?? | 15:53 |
| devildante | good question | 15:53 |
| abhijit | :) | 15:53 |
| devildante | abhijit: you have to register to the bugzilla first | 15:53 |
| abhijit | devildante, i am registered in bugzilla too!!! :D | 15:54 |
| devildante | abhijit: which one? (they are several bugzillas, and they don't share the same users) | 15:54 |
| abhijit | this info is new to me | 15:54 |
| abhijit | wait | 15:54 |
| abhijit | devildante, i dont remember exactly now but abiword,openoffice | 15:57 |
| devildante | abhijit: so, you need to register to the libsdl bugzilla | 15:58 |
| abhijit | devildante, ohhh | 15:58 |
| abhijit | devildante, done. | 16:03 |
| abhijit | now i am logged in. | 16:03 |
| devildante | abhijit: in the bug page, you should see a "URL:" text entry. Put the launchpad bug link there | 16:04 |
| abhijit | devildante, ok | 16:04 |
| abhijit | devildante, i just done. you just crosscheck if i done correctly http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/process_bug.cgi | 16:07 |
| devildante | you mean http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670 :p | 16:07 |
| ubot2 | bugzilla.libsdl.org bug 670 in events "Multimedia keys and dead keys no longer working" [Normal,Waiting] | 16:07 |
| devildante | yes, good job | 16:07 |
| devildante | now, we just have to wait for the devs to fix this :p | 16:08 |
| abhijit | i am totaly confused | 16:08 |
| abhijit | devildante, i cant see the link which i submitted. where it gone? | 16:08 |
| abhijit | devildante, oh sorry i can see it now :D | 16:08 |
| abhijit | devildante, yah the main step - to wait!!! :D | 16:08 |
| devildante | yofel: could you triage abhijit's bug? | 16:09 |
| devildante | yofel: priority medium | 16:09 |
| * abhijit will be glad!!! | 16:09 | |
| devildante | yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/619256 | 16:10 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 619256 in libsdl1.2 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Function keys wont work in fullscreen game (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:10 |
| abhijit | yofel, ping | 16:12 |
| abhijit | :( | 16:14 |
| njin | pedro_: hello | 16:23 |
| abhijit | vish, ping | 16:28 |
| abhijit | :/ | 16:30 |
| abhijit | :( | 16:34 |
| abhijit | charlie-tca, ping | 16:38 |
| charlie-tca | pont | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | pong | 16:39 |
| abhijit | :) | 16:39 |
| abhijit | charlie-tca, can you traiage my bug report? | 16:39 |
| abhijit | charlie-tca, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/619256 | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | number? | 16:39 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 619256 in libsdl1.2 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Function keys wont work in fullscreen game (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:39 |
| abhijit | charlie-tca, as deviladante suggested importance to medium? | 16:40 |
| sinurge | how do u take care of a bug report that might be kinda a wishlist - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/612988 | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | done | 16:40 |
| abhijit | charlie-tca, thanks! | 16:40 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 612988 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "[nautilus] shows ubuntu-one ribbon in each folder (affects: 7) (dups: 2) (heat: 48)" [Undecided,New] | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | Nice job | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | sinurge: we don't | 16:41 |
| sinurge | k, thanks | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | It is marked as an opinion already in the main package, and the developers will decide for maverick | 16:42 |
| abhijit | yofel, ??? | 16:42 |
| abhijit | anyone can just mar that report as affect to you? | 16:43 |
| abhijit | please? | 16:43 |
| abhijit | mark* | 16:43 |
| paultag | abhijit: why would someone do that if it does not affect them? | 16:43 |
| abhijit | paultag, i am requesting anyone to reproduce the condition and mark it. i am not saying to mark directly | 16:44 |
| abhijit | hello | 16:46 |
| abhijit | should i ask this person to do ubuntu-bug lernid so that we will have more info? | 16:47 |
| abhijit | https://bugs.launchpad.net/lernid/+bug/610447 | 16:47 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 610447 in lernid "Lernid crash in Session (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 16:47 |
| sinurge | i think you can write that, and in addition mark the bug as incomplete. | 16:51 |
| abhijit | sinurge, ok | 16:51 |
| vish | abhijit: pong | 16:52 |
| abhijit | vish, should i ask this person to do ubuntu-bug lernid so that we will have more info? | 16:52 |
| abhijit | virtuald, https://bugs.launchpad.net/lernid/+bug/610447 | 16:52 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 610447 in lernid "Lernid crash in Session (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 16:52 |
| abhijit | oh sorry | 16:52 |
| abhijit | vish, ^^ | 16:52 |
| sinurge | abhijit:installing lernid, let me see if ic an reproduce the same bug | 16:53 |
| abhijit | sinurge, yah sure | 16:53 |
| vish | abhijit: thats an upstream bug , we cant set status for it | 16:53 |
| abhijit | vish, no no not status | 16:53 |
| abhijit | vish, i feel that bug is incomplete. shoulk i ask that person to do ubuntu-bug lernid? so that we will have more info? | 16:53 |
| vish | abhijit: i dont know about lernid ;) | 16:54 |
| abhijit | vish, ohhh okk np :) | 16:54 |
| abhijit | sinurge, that bug is not reproducable for me | 16:55 |
| sinurge | same here | 16:55 |
| abhijit | sinurge, yah | 16:56 |
| njin | hello to all, just a curiosity, what mean this ( tags: added: kj-triage ) | 17:06 |
| stanley_robertso | hi | 17:07 |
| stanley_robertso | hi all | 17:07 |
| abhijit | stanley_robertso, :) | 17:07 |
| stanley_robertso | hi abhijit | 17:07 |
| === maco2 is now known as maco | ||
| ashams | hello all | 17:09 |
| stanley_robertso | hi ashams | 17:09 |
| sinurge | evening/afternoon everyone | 17:10 |
| === em is now known as emma | ||
| bdmurray | njin: the bug was programmatically triaged by the kernel janitor | 17:11 |
| sinurge | abhijit: u did not mark that bug? | 17:12 |
| abhijit | sinurge, i was waiting for you!!! | 17:12 |
| abhijit | :-o | 17:12 |
| abhijit | i mean i was waiting for you to mark it sinurge | 17:13 |
| njin | bdmurray: thanks | 17:20 |
| yofel | abhijit: sorry, went swimming, and I marked that bug as affecting me right after you filed it | 17:31 |
| abhijit | yofel, thanks :) | 17:32 |
| MiketheMagiCat | Hi. Can someone help me? I had Ubuntu installed on my computer. I also have Windows Vista (which I hate). But today it would not let me go online. It said there was a broken link. I could not find it. I uninstalled it. I installed Download Ubuntu Desktop Edition 32 bit. And then it told me when it finished downloading to choose a program to open it up. I chose Internet Explorer. Now I can't find the | 18:02 |
| MiketheMagiCat | MiketheMagiCatprogram anywhere on the computer, or in my files. I also tried loading it on to my usb flash drive, and it didn't work. Is there a phone number to call for support for Linux products. I am a beginner and an idiot. | 18:02 |
| MiketheMagiCat | If someone could email me about this I would apprciate it. bloderme@yahoo.com | 18:09 |
| * nigelb pokes pedro_ | 18:49 | |
| nigelb | pedro_: were you able to get around to be blog post? | 18:49 |
| pedro_ | nigelb, having in a draft , one sec | 19:10 |
| penguin42 | pedro_: If you get a chance can you look at bug 598780 - I've written a fairly long analysis of what I think is happening there | 19:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 598780 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: (null) (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598780 | 19:15 |
| pedro_ | penguin42, i'll look at it in a bit, thanks for filing the report btw | 19:17 |
| penguin42 | np | 19:17 |
| simar | ashams: hi | 19:21 |
| simar | ashams: finally | 19:21 |
| simar | :)) | 19:21 |
| === drosenbe_ is now known as drosenbe | ||
| nigelb | yay! http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/101 | 19:35 |
| kiwinote | hi! I have been pointed to bug 618855 by the reporter (it was their first time filing a bug), but I don't have permission to view it. Does anyone know what sort of a bug this is (ie it must be something more than just a private bug)? | 19:36 |
| ubot2 | kiwinote: Bug 618855 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/618855 is private | 19:36 |
| nigelb | devildante, vish, yofel, and others: http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/101 | 19:36 |
| micahg | kiwinote: probably needs retracing | 19:36 |
| nigelb | kiwinote: looks like I can't see it either. | 19:36 |
| nigelb | Maybe its not in the ubuntu project? | 19:37 |
| abhijit | bye | 19:37 |
| micahg | that could be too | 19:37 |
| vish | kiwinote: easiest would be to ask them to subscribe you to the bug | 19:38 |
| nigelb | Yep. | 19:38 |
| kiwinote | ok, thanks everyone, that subscribing does sound the easiest | 19:38 |
| penguin42 | nigelb: Thats good - Ubuntu often picks up stick for not contributing | 19:42 |
| nigelb | penguin42: Yep, that's what we're trying to reduce. | 19:42 |
| penguin42 | nigelb: Although similarly I don't know when it becomes visible that it was an ubuntu fix; i.e. if we fix something, that gets pushed up to debian and that gets pushed to the original project I wonder what the chances are that it will keep its attributions | 19:43 |
| nigelb | penguin42: That shouldn't be our concern. | 19:44 |
| micahg | penguin42: most people will keep the original attributions when pushing up a patch | 19:44 |
| penguin42 | nigelb: What happened to the Review queue in June ? | 19:44 |
| vish | nigelb: thats 30 done on that day, or the week? | 19:44 |
| nigelb | Our concern should be that we aren't holding a patch that was in our bug tracker that fixes a *big* issue. | 19:44 |
| nigelb | penguin42: from since we started, its gone down from 1903 to 1481. | 19:45 |
| nigelb | Slow but steady | 19:45 |
| nigelb | vish: week. | 19:45 |
| vish | nigelb: hmm, wasnt the target 20 per day? or something higher? | 19:45 |
| penguin42 | nigelb: Oh it's just the graph shows it as a big upwards movement in June | 19:45 |
| nigelb | Note that we get patches every day, so progress that can be tracked is very slow. | 19:45 |
| nigelb | vish: it was 20. We need more help :( | 19:45 |
| vish | nigelb: stop talking now! review a bug! :D | 19:45 |
| penguin42 | nigelb: We have to be a little careful with bugs with patches; it's like I posted a workaround patch to a bug but put big hairy screeamy warnings on it saying it was voodoo code and someone who actually understood it should look at it; it's still marked as a bug with a patch | 19:45 |
| * vish jumps on lp too! ;) | 19:46 | |
| nigelb | vish: good idea. | 19:46 |
| nigelb | penguin42: We let the upstream decide. | 19:46 |
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| penguin42 | nigelb: Well it depends as the one who wrote the patch I wouldn't want it upstreamed | 19:47 |
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| penguin42 | It's commented that way to stop anyone thinking it's supposed to be | 19:47 |
| nigelb | penguin42: Well, I see it this way. | 19:47 |
| yofel | penguin42: that is unreasonable, we should keep our differences from upstream as small as possible | 19:48 |
| nigelb | I try the patch to see if its working first. | 19:48 |
| nigelb | If it isn't, we tag it patch-needswork. | 19:48 |
| penguin42 | yofel: My point is it works, and I wouldn't even push it into the release never mind upstream; because I know it needs someone to look at it properly - it might break other cases worse and I know it's not good | 19:48 |
| vish | penguin42: the easiest you can do is just forward patches upstream .. to where they belong | 19:49 |
| penguin42 | vish: that would be wrong if the original author had said it wasn't ready for release | 19:49 |
| yofel | penguin42: well, we want upstream to review the patch because they know the code best? | 19:49 |
| penguin42 | yofel: No, I know it needs a proper fix from upstream, my code was just a hack which seems to work - I *know* it needs a proper fix | 19:49 |
| vish | penguin42: do note , once reviewed , it needs to be uploaded as well , so the sponsor must be really dumb to upload a "voodoo code" | 19:50 |
| yofel | so, upstream might still want to apply it while they work on another fix | 19:50 |
| vish | penguin42: which we are spared since the sponsors are chosen carefully ;) | 19:51 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Oh yeh I'm sure no one would look at my patch and push it upstream since it's got big scray comments in saying it's voodoo code - but I'm just saying just to take care that the people writing a patch might know it's not the right thing to release it; in that case it would be right to forward the bug upstream with a note saying there was a work around | 19:51 |
| simar | ashams: there?? | 19:52 |
| vish | penguin42: imo, if the patch can just be forward , let the upstream decide if they really do want that voodo | 19:53 |
| vish | s/if// | 19:53 |
| penguin42 | vish: My point was to violently disagree with that! If the original author of something thinks it's horrible and shouldn't be put into a release I think their view should be respected | 19:54 |
| vish | penguin42: then why are they submitting the patch? [i'm now confused with the question] | 19:55 |
| penguin42 | (Interestingly in the case of the bug in question - bug 605686 - someone else who obviously understands stuff a bit more included a patch after mine - but put it inline instead of as a patch - and it all seems to have gone quiet | 19:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 605686 in linux (Ubuntu) "nointremap needed - Blocked an interrupt request due to source-id verificiation failure (affects: 1) (heat: 133)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605686 | 19:55 |
| micahg | penguin42: well, sometimes a patch is only needed by us and not usable upstream and they'll reject it, or the level of hack is acceptable for us due to a problem it solves | 19:55 |
| penguin42 | vish: Well I submitted it because it was a work around that worked for me and might be useful to others | 19:55 |
| penguin42 | micahg: Yeh indeed; my objection was purely to the thought that a patch should be upstreamed even if the original author didn't think it was right | 19:55 |
| vish | penguin42: so why cant this workaround be done upstream? even if it is a stop gap? | 19:56 |
| vish | penguin42: upstream might like it.. :) | 19:56 |
| ashams | simar: hi, are you still there | 19:56 |
| simar | ashams: ya :)) | 19:56 |
| micahg | penguin42: also, upstream might suggest how to make it better and you can create a better patch | 19:56 |
| penguin42 | vish: It was one of those things that was patching something hideously complex (interrupt mapping) that frankly I haven't got a clue about but managed to hack around | 19:56 |
| ashams | simar: how is your day? | 19:56 |
| simar | ashams: at last, actually i have some temporary internet probems | 19:56 |
| simar | ashams: just fine .. | 19:57 |
| ashams | simar: it's fine | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | vish: Sticking a thumb in a leaking ditch might stop a flood, you wouldn't want it included in the design | 19:57 |
| simar | ashams: :)) | 19:57 |
| simar | ashams: did you read the new documents that I sent you through mail | 19:57 |
| vish | penguin42: imo, it might not be perfect now, but it can be perfected by upstream.. it might be a new idea. [i havent seen your patch though] | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | vish: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51999685/intremap-hack.patch | 19:58 |
| ashams | simar: I was sick in the last days, I didn't finish them yet! :(( | 19:58 |
| simar | ashams: Do you think that you are in a position to start triaging the touchpad bugs or should we wait?? | 19:59 |
| simar | ashams: In the other case I hope you can clarify some doubts | 19:59 |
| vish | penguin42: maybe we should send it to Linus? ;) | 19:59 |
| * penguin42 flippers vish | 20:00 | |
| micahg | vish: IMHO, the kernel team should be the only ones upstreaming kernel patches | 20:01 |
| ashams | simar: actually, I was thinking if You can assign me some bugs so you may check If I'm ready or not? | 20:01 |
| vish | micahg: yeah , i dint offer to send it :) | 20:01 |
| vish | lol! "DANGER! Voodoo coding" | 20:01 |
| penguin42 | vish: See, I was subtle! | 20:02 |
| ashams | simar: that I'm not sure If I'm really ready to start... | 20:02 |
| vish | micahg: upstream folks dont even like "regular" users sending bugs , let alone patches ;) | 20:03 |
| vish | upstream kernel* | 20:03 |
| micahg | vish: I know, that's why I said it ;) | 20:03 |
| penguin42 | vish: They can be OK if you send a good patch and send it to the right people | 20:03 |
| vish | penguin42: if we send a patch they *hate* , they will ensure to trash the submitter :D | 20:05 |
| penguin42 | oh yes | 20:05 |
| simar | ashams: you should not be afraid to do | 20:05 |
| simar | ashams: let me introduce you some bugs and lets triage them together.. :)) | 20:05 |
| vish | Fear is what you have to fear itself! | 20:06 |
| simar | ashams: just a sec | 20:06 |
| simar | vish: Right :)) | 20:06 |
| simar | vish: I'm happy to have another student .. cheers for that :-)) | 20:07 |
| ashams | simar: just a sec! | 20:07 |
| simar | vish: Happy to introduce many people to ubuntu :) | 20:07 |
| vish | simar: yay! | 20:07 |
| simar | vish: :) | 20:07 |
| vish | simar: you need not necessarily teach only about synaptics , if they want to do other bugs , you can just guide them with the bugs and get them familiar with the workflow.. | 20:08 |
| simar | vish: ya but ashams says he'll be happy triaging something that i know and it will be a start and then he'll triage many others.. | 20:10 |
| vish | simar: cool! was just mentioning it now, wanted to send that in the mail , but forgot :) | 20:10 |
| simar | vish: I will try, that my other student will triage something else.. n myself too ;) | 20:12 |
| simar | ashams: Here is a list of all bugs that need to be touched ie New as you have read in documentation. | 20:13 |
| simar | ashams: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 20:13 |
| simar | ashams: just have a look | 20:13 |
| ashams | simar:ok | 20:13 |
| simar | ashams: let me find some suitable one | 20:14 |
| ashams | simar: ok | 20:14 |
| simar | ashams: till then you would like to have a look here https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/565543 | 20:16 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 565543 in linux (Ubuntu) "Alps touchpad detected as ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse(in VAIO E series) after the kernel upgrade (affects: 13) (heat: 82)" [Medium,Incomplete] | 20:16 |
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| ashams | simar: well, it looks like a problem with the driver? | 20:22 |
| simar | ashams: yes .. have you noticed how a triager intervenes a bug report. | 20:23 |
| simar | ashams: how to greet at first.. | 20:23 |
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| ashams | simar: I cannot understand what you say! | 20:28 |
| simar | ashams: don't worry, take your time.. | 20:28 |
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| simar | ashams: leave it and keep it as a reference , just subscribe it using Subscribe in green at right .. | 20:29 |
| simar | ashams: report after doing so | 20:29 |
| ashams | simar: done | 20:29 |
| simar | ashams: Now you can find this bug easily using launchpad in bugs section at you page and then subscribed bugs.. | 20:30 |
| ashams | simar: what did you mean with " how to greet at first.."? | 20:30 |
| simar | ashams: can you find it | 20:30 |
| simar | ashams: That how a triager greets and thanks for reporting bug that i did in my first comment.. | 20:31 |
| ashams | simar: yes | 20:31 |
| simar | ashams: both things clear? | 20:32 |
| ashams | simar: yes | 20:34 |
| simar | ashams: we need to speed up. I have a class tomorrow at 8 and its 1 am here already. | 20:35 |
| simar | ashams: see this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/355372 | 20:35 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 355372 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "unstoppable scrolling synaptics touchpad (heat: 7)" [Undecided,New] | 20:35 |
| simar | ashams: First subscribe.. | 20:36 |
| njin | pedro_: are you around ? | 20:36 |
| pedro_ | njin, hello , yes | 20:37 |
| ashams | simar: yes I see it in my supscription list | 20:38 |
| ashams | simar: and I got back to it! | 20:38 |
| njin | pedro_: today i've alp trecking with son's, i'm phisically destroyed. | 20:39 |
| ashams | simar: so is there any triagging mistakes? | 20:39 |
| simar | ashams: subscribe the new bug. I can't see you in subscribers list.. | 20:43 |
| simar | ashams: bug 355372 | 20:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 355372 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "unstoppable scrolling synaptics touchpad (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355372 | 20:43 |
| ashams | simar: ok | 20:43 |
| ashams | simar: yes I supscribed now, so you want to finish it, its ok! | 20:46 |
| ashams | simar: if you're going to finish now, please tell me when to be here again? | 20:47 |
| simar | ashams: wait a sec now | 20:47 |
| ashams | simar: ok | 20:47 |
| simar | ashams: change the status to incomplete.. | 20:48 |
| simar | ashams: This means you need to get information from the user, and you are triaging the bug | 20:49 |
| ashams | simar: I'm sorry I need to go. | 20:49 |
| simar | ashams: ok, we 'll catch tomorrow with the same bug .. | 20:50 |
| ashams | simar: OK but when??? | 20:50 |
| ashams | simar: when? | 20:50 |
| ashams | simar: please give me the exact time to be here? | 20:51 |
| simar | ashams: at 16:30 UTC | 20:52 |
| ashams | simar: ok | 20:52 |
| ashams | simar: bye now | 20:52 |
| simar | ashams: see my time here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors | 20:52 |
| simar | ashams: see ya | 20:52 |
| ashams | simar: ok | 20:53 |
| simar | ashams: gn | 20:53 |
| devildante | unreviewed patches reduced to 1479! woohoo! | 21:09 |
| vish | devildante: hey , are you working on the update-manager renaming? | 21:11 |
| devildante | vish: oh god, I forgot :p | 21:11 |
| vish | devildante: needs to be ready before UIF ;) | 21:12 |
| devildante | vish: will start working on it now :) | 21:12 |
| vish | devildante: yay! \o/ | 21:12 |
| vish | devildante: woah! maverick u-m is gonna rock! | 21:13 |
| devildante | vish: would a renaming make it rock even more? :p | 21:13 |
| vish | devildante: rocker! ? ;p | 21:14 |
| devildante | vish: anyway, I got plans for this little guy (muhaha) | 21:14 |
| devildante | for NN (insert joke about the version code) | 21:15 |
| vish | no one shall be spared: > http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Narwhals/ listen and get addicted too ! | 21:15 |
| devildante | bookmarked :p | 21:17 |
| yofel | u-m is being renamed? | 21:17 |
| yofel | (I don't follow gnome things much ^^) | 21:18 |
| devildante | yofel: it was a decision taken yesterday or the day before (I don't quite remember :p) | 21:20 |
| devildante | vish: I'm gonna put this link EVERYWHERE :p | 21:20 |
| vish | :D | 21:21 |
| devildante | vish: do you know the applications that uses update-notifier's gconf keys? | 21:28 |
| vish | devildante: not sure.. maybe the indicator-session? | 21:31 |
| vish | nah not it | 21:31 |
| devildante | vish: I would like to rename the gconf keys as well | 21:31 |
| vish | devildante: i would do that in probably two branches/commits.. in case it breaks something , we can revert easier | 21:33 |
| devildante | vish: yeah, you're right | 21:33 |
| devildante | vish: still, I'll rename the update-manager ones, as I think only the app itself uses them | 21:34 |
| vish | devildante: cool! | 21:34 |
| vish | devildante: we need an mvo! ;p | 21:34 |
| jpds | a mvo. | 21:35 |
| * devildante creates an mvo | 21:35 | |
| vish | heh | 21:35 |
| devildante | jpds: why? | 21:35 |
| jpds | devildante: m is not a vowel, so it's an a. | 21:35 |
| devildante | jpds: wow, you're right - still, "an mvo" sounds cool :p | 21:36 |
| jpds | ;-) | 21:36 |
| astraljava | Yeah, but only if you pronounce them together. If separately, it's an m-v-o. | 21:36 |
| devildante | all right, I want everyone to include this in their quit/part message: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Narwhals/ | 21:37 |
| devildante | :p | 21:37 |
| penguin42 | devildante: I'm sure those guys would do custom version | 21:41 |
| penguin42 | s | 21:42 |
| devildante | :p | 21:42 |
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| virusuy | Evening 0/ | 22:10 |
| * penguin42 is confused by bug 428318 - one with a patch | 22:12 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 428318 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "unable to mount an ext2 partition by label or uuid, unbootable system (affects: 14) (dups: 2) (heat: 83)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/428318 | 22:12 |
| penguin42 | I think the patch that is there is already in the util-linux 2.17.2 that it is in maverick, however I don't know if it actually fixes those guys problems | 22:12 |
| penguin42 | and actually it sounds like it was probably in lucid | 22:13 |
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