| micahg | chrisccoulson: let's chat in the morning about thunderbird | 00:53 |
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| chrisccoulson | hi micahg | 00:53 |
| chrisccoulson | what did you want to chat about? | 00:54 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: hi, well, steps left before the update | 00:54 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, cool | 00:54 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: but I'm not feeling too well, BTW, enigmail in PPA | 00:54 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, thanks. and i hope you feel better soon | 00:54 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: thanks, ended up working through it today, but can't do much extra stuff | 00:55 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, no problem :) | 00:55 |
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| * Milos_SD-aWay is Away, Reason: ( Spavam ... ) | Since: ( Monday, August 16, 2010. 22:13:47 ) Xlack v2.1 | 01:14 | |
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| micahg | Milos_SD-aWay: stop spamming the channel | 01:16 |
| micahg | Milos_SD: stop spamming the channel | 01:16 |
| Milos_SD | how is one line spam? :) | 01:17 |
| Milos_SD | and I did /away reason... but that script did the announce | 01:18 |
| micahg | Milos_SD: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/479155/ | 01:18 |
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| alexbodn | hello friends | 10:52 |
| alexbodn | i've previously made a script to checkout and debuild bluegriffon, a website editor with xulrunner-2.0-dev from ubuntu ppa. the program builds (apparently correctly) but it doesn't show anything. tell me please how to proceed: upload files etc. | 10:56 |
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| fta2 | chrisccoulson, asac, jdstrand: for chromium 6 in lucid, i also need libvpx (NEW), as it needs the ffmpeg codecs 0.6 for which libvpx is a mandatory build-deps. is that possible? | 14:00 |
| jdstrand | fta2: it is technically possible, but please coordinate with chrisccoulson | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - we had to do it for the recent firefox update too | 14:02 |
| jdstrand | it sounds like a lot of regression testing will need to be done on anything that uses ffmpeg codecs | 14:02 |
| fta2 | jdstrand, it's not system ffmpeg, it's a multi-threaded private copy | 14:03 |
| jdstrand | so then a new libvpx comes in which nothing in the archive would use? that sounds safe enough | 14:05 |
| fta2 | jdstrand, i think so. it would be possible for me to use system ffmpeg *iif* we enable threading in it.. which i agree would mean lots of regression testing in tons of other apps. that's not what i'm requesting here. | 14:16 |
| fta2 | perhaps we can do that in maverick (iirc, debian does it in unstable), or in m+1 | 14:17 |
| jdstrand | maybe, though it sounds like chromium could just up their requirements once maverick is released and we'd have to use a private one anyway | 14:26 |
| Dimmuxx | fta2: any plans to make chromium look more like a native app by default? Like including the ubuntu lighttheme extensions in some way | 14:26 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, how are the chromium updates built at the moment? are they built in -proposed and copied to -security? | 14:32 |
| chrisccoulson | or built in the security PPA? | 14:32 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: they are built in ubuntu-security-proposed, then pocket copied to -proposed and follow the normal SRU process from there. when they are deemed acceptable they are pocket copied to both -updates and -security | 14:37 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, ok, so that's fairly similar to what we do already for mozilla. i wasn't sure if we could upload new packages to -proposed or not | 14:41 |
| chrisccoulson | urgh, daily builds are broken on amd64 for everything on all releases :-/ | 15:37 |
| alexbodn | i've made a script to checkout and debuild bluegriffon, a website editor with xulrunner-2.0-dev from ubuntu ppa. the program builds (apparently correctly) but it doesn't show anything. tell me please how to proceed: upload files etc. | 16:27 |
| gnomefreak | is tb31 using the, damn just blanked | 16:36 |
| gnomefreak | the same thing that 2.0 -> 3.0 | 16:37 |
| gnomefreak | profile merge? | 16:39 |
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| fta | Dimmuxx, do you mean enabling the "system title bar and borders" by default? | 17:23 |
| Dimmuxx | fta: no the scrollbar still looks weird with that | 17:28 |
| Dimmuxx | https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/mikdfeaeaecoffpjoodiihgejnbfigln | 17:29 |
| Dimmuxx | I'm talking about that | 17:29 |
| fta | Dimmuxx, the scrollbar is a webkit widget, it's not gtk. hence, it's themable with css only. | 17:30 |
| fta | oh, the extension. iirc, extensions have no system path | 17:30 |
| Dimmuxx | yes I know that but it looks wrong and most users probably doesn't know about that extension | 17:30 |
| fta | at least, last time i checked, but maybe there's a way now | 17:31 |
| Dimmuxx | and if chromium gonna be default sometime in the future it should probably look more like a native app | 17:31 |
| fta | that's no longer the plan. | 17:32 |
| fta | at least, last time i heard | 17:32 |
| fta | but i've been kept in the dark for this whole story so who knows | 17:33 |
| Dimmuxx | I know that too but who knows what happens in the future. It was just an idea | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | fta / Dimmuxx - it's still the plan to have chromium as default, but just not this cycle ;) | 17:34 |
| Dimmuxx | it's always not this cycle for everything ;) | 17:35 |
| Dimmuxx | will rgba be in maverick or is it maverick+1 now? :P | 17:35 |
| fta | Dimmuxx, i need to figure out that "policies" vs "preferences" thingy in chromium, to see what's the best way to tweak the default install | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | i've no idea, i'm not the right person to ask about rgba ;) | 17:35 |
| fta | Dimmuxx, and that extension is distro specific, ie, it's for lucid but it looks weird on maverick | 17:36 |
| Dimmuxx | yeah and it needs to be changed for every theme too but at least the light themes could get special treatment imho | 17:37 |
| gnomefreak | people like Ambiance theme :( | 17:38 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: it is default in UNR isnt it? | 17:39 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, not for maverick | 17:39 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: oh | 17:39 |
| gnomefreak | did mozilla ever upgrade the nightly tester tool for 4.0? | 17:41 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: nightly tester tool seems unmaintained | 17:42 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: that would explain that | 17:43 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 17:43 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: what issue were you having with 3.1? | 17:44 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: seems like some bad code landed or all the amd64 buildds are messed up | 17:45 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - it's the builders | 17:45 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: none yet i just want to know if it uses the same profile manager(not sure of the name) like the thing from 2.0 -> 3.0 | 17:45 |
| chrisccoulson | we've just been talking about it on #ubuntu-devel | 17:45 |
| chrisccoulson | they think they're i386 builders ;) | 17:46 |
| chrisccoulson | so all the amd64 builds are failing | 17:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ah, good :) nothing for me to fix | 17:46 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: migration assistant? | 17:46 |
| gnomefreak | import wizard | 17:46 |
| gnomefreak | yes thats it | 17:46 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes, but it should be more conservative | 17:46 |
| gnomefreak | not import wizard | 17:46 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: i just dont want to lose the set up for 3.0 incase 3.1 fails at some point | 17:47 |
| gnomefreak | and 2 -> 3 dumped the 2.0 conf | 17:47 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: well, the thunderbird-3.1 uses a copy, thunderbird in maverick will replace 3.0 | 17:47 |
| * gnomefreak using nightlies of tb 30 31 | 17:48 | |
| gnomefreak | i was kind of hoping they would use separate profiles like ff is doing | 17:48 |
| gnomefreak | if 3.1 breaks i want to beable to run 3.0 without having to do much. i dont recall if renaming profiles worked | 17:49 |
| gnomefreak | damnit | 17:49 |
| gnomefreak | i guess i will look at nm.pl in the next few days | 17:51 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: they are, but I"m going to switch thunderbird nightly to 3.1 soon | 17:51 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: oh | 17:52 |
| micahg | 3.0 will probably be EOL soon | 17:52 |
| micahg | as will 2.0 | 17:52 |
| gnomefreak | so no fall back if 3.1 breaks | 17:52 |
| micahg | the current .debs in maverick I guess | 17:52 |
| gnomefreak | if 2.0 isnt EOL than i would explect 3.0 to be around a while | 17:52 |
| micahg | 2.0 isn't EOL because they haven't pushed the major update yet, should be this week, I expect an annoucement early next month if there are no issues with the MU | 17:53 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 17:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I remember asac not wanting to have an alternative war | 17:58 |
| * micahg needs to get TB 3.1 in maverick//stable PPA soon as people are getting anxious... | 18:02 | |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i can revert it if you think it might cause an issue, but it seems strange that we set the link for firefox to the lowest priority | 18:06 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: as asac put it and I'm paraphrasing, the priority system is an outdated broken way of managing the default browser, there are better mechanisms in place | 18:06 |
| gnomefreak | epiphany is broken in Lucid too it seems | 18:07 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: what do you mean broke? | 18:07 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: the extensions-more wont install | 18:07 |
| gnomefreak | epiphany-extensions-more is not 2.30 so you get broken packages | 18:08 |
| gnomefreak | epiphany-extensions: is 2.30 | 18:08 |
| gnomefreak | same bug in Maverick at least it was a week ago | 18:09 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: sounds like a reason for a fakesync SRU :) | 18:09 |
| micahg | maverick is up to date now | 18:09 |
| gnomefreak | not sure why they released Lucid with it like this | 18:09 |
| fta | *sigh* Bug 619193 | 18:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 619193 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Please update chromium-browser in Maverick and Lucid (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619193 | 18:10 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: probably underused | 18:10 |
| gnomefreak | LTS shouldnt have these types of issues IMHO | 18:10 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: we have 15k+ packages, can't get them all right :-/ | 18:10 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: we only have 176 devs that can upload for all those packages | 18:10 |
| gnomefreak | true | 18:10 |
| micahg | fta: is it stable yet? | 18:11 |
| fta | micahg, that guy wants beta, we follow stable | 18:11 |
| fta | so it's not there yet | 18:11 |
| micahg | fta: right, so they guy's a little jumpy, don't worry about it :) | 18:11 |
| micahg | fta: you can make that the master bug for update to 6.0 when it becomes stable if you want | 18:12 |
| fta | yep | 18:12 |
| gnomefreak | 6.0 isnt stable? | 18:12 |
| gnomefreak | 7.0 in daily so i figured 6.0 would be stable | 18:13 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, what's the status of the permanent ffe for chromium? and does it include its deps? | 18:13 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: beta, new major versions every 6 weeks now | 18:14 |
| fta | gnomefreak, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html | 18:14 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 18:14 |
| fta | so stable is 5, beta & dev are 6, and trunk just jumped to 7 | 18:15 |
| fta | i assume stable will jump shortly | 18:16 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: any chance we can get enigmail updated to work with tb31 before replacing 3.0 | 18:31 |
| * gnomefreak going to test 31 | 18:31 | |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I have it :) | 18:31 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: cool | 18:31 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: ppa:micahg/mozilla-test | 18:31 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: thanks ill ad it | 18:31 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: be careful as thunderbird version 3.1 is in there as well | 18:31 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: im using nightly so should it still effect me | 18:32 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: the only thing holding me back ATM from pushing to maverick is the upgrade isn't smooth. I've been dogfooding it for almost a week now with no horrible issues (1 issue with closing, but that's known upstream) | 18:32 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: there's a dependency loop somewhere and I haven't had time to figure it out yet | 18:33 |
| gnomefreak | k | 18:33 |
| gnomefreak | seems 3.1 works fine recieveing mail i havent tried replying. micahg would it cause any problem by updateing 3.0 to 3.1 while i have 3.1 nightly installed? | 18:58 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no, but you should back up your 3.0 profile because it will upgrade it, also, you'll have to use aptitude since the dependencies aren't quite working yet | 18:59 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: ok thanks | 18:59 |
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| gnomefreak | micahg: thunderbird upgrade from your testing repo works fine no depends issues using apt | 19:33 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: you must not have locales installed :) | 19:33 |
| gnomefreak | nope | 19:34 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 19:34 |
| micahg | right, that's the current issue, I have the common ones installed for testing | 19:34 |
| micahg | there's no logical reason for there to be an issue as I didn't add any new conflicts/replaces | 19:34 |
| micahg | but I'll look into it when I feel better | 19:35 |
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| micahg | fta: chrisccoulson: please don't retry the UMD amd64 builds from today so lamont has something to test with | 20:22 |
| fta | ? | 20:23 |
| micahg | fta: just don't click retry for the UMD amd64 builds :) | 20:23 |
| fta | ok, i won't, but the bot will auto-respin in ~7h | 20:24 |
| micahg | fta: that's fine, they'll be new builds | 20:24 |
| BUGabundo | ey fta | 20:32 |
| BUGabundo | long time no see | 20:32 |
| fta | adsl sucks | 20:34 |
| BUGabundo | ahaha | 20:39 |
| BUGabundo | changing isp? | 20:39 |
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| chrisccoulson | micahg - did you solve the tb-locales upgrade issue? | 22:40 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: not yet, still under the weather | 22:40 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, no problem. i'll look at it now :) | 22:40 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: cool, thanks | 22:41 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - was there a specific language causing an issue, or can i reproduce it with any? | 22:41 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I think any, if not I can check my logs | 22:41 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - hmmm, i managed to upgrade normally through update-manager with all tb-locale-* packages installed | 23:29 |
| micahg | :( | 23:29 |
| chrisccoulson | hmm, we need to update mozgest it seems | 23:30 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I guess I"ll downgrade and try to upgrade again and see what the issue is | 23:30 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, no problem. if it's not reproducible, i think we should just upload it once the other packages are ready | 23:30 |
| chrisccoulson | if there really is an issue, we'll know about it soon enough | 23:30 |
| chrisccoulson | but we should get some good testing in maverick before the 3.1.3 release on sept 7th | 23:31 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, I'll finish up adding the changelog entries later this week and push if everything looks good | 23:31 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, thanks | 23:32 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: why do we have to update mozgest? did they add more compatability in 3.0.3? | 23:32 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - not sure. perhaps we just need to tweak the install.rdf | 23:33 |
| * micahg wonders if the source has a more detailed changelog than teh website | 23:33 | |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - whats the status with lightning too? i can work on that if you don't have time | 23:37 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yeah, haven't looked at it yet, if you have time, go for it | 23:38 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, i'll take a look at that tomorrow | 23:38 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I was going to take the TB packaging and change the mozclient + build options | 23:39 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I didn't build maverick packages yet :) | 23:55 |
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