[02:08] <Flannel> wharrgarbl
[05:33] <h00k> has anyone seen genii lately?
[05:34] <mneptok> no. try install LAMP.
[05:34]  * h00k facepalms
[05:35] <h00k> well done. I lol'd. Alone in this hotel room.
[05:35] <h00k> as I tether from my droid downloading a debian iso. how cool am I.
[05:46] <mneptok> using CDMA? not very. :P
[05:46] <h00k> :D yeah... :(
[05:47]  * mneptok was amazed that NYC has allowed cell phone repeaters in the subway system
[05:47] <h00k> but AT&T coverage sucks here
[05:47] <mneptok> T-Mo?
[05:47] <h00k> even worse.
[05:47] <h00k> Northern Wisconsin.
[05:48] <h00k> T-Mobile is actually almost non-existent here
[05:48] <mneptok> oh, so you use CDMA. Can Detect Moose Attenuation.
[05:49] <h00k> :D Not quite moose down here, occasionally you hear about the phantom moose people report
[05:50] <mneptok> http://donnerpartykitchenstaff.com/pblog/images/Moose470.jpg
[05:51] <mneptok> warning! moose can kill your car WITH THEIR MINDS!
[05:51] <h00k> Hah!
[05:51] <Flannel> My walnuts!
[05:52] <h00k> http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/Elk/ apparently we do
[16:05] <bazhang> gos was doing the exact same thing in #ubuntu as 'madrid' at least we got him out of the support channel
[16:08] <ikonia> I've not seen madrid for a while
[16:08] <bazhang> its gos, now in -ot
[16:09] <ikonia> is madrid actually gos ?
[16:10] <bazhang> madrid!~madrid@89.6.200.189    * [gos] (~gos@89.6.200.189): sergi
[16:10] <bazhang> seem to match
[16:10] <ikonia> crap
[16:10] <ikonia> I'm sure I banned madrid in #ubuntu
[16:10] <bazhang> got him out of #ubuntu , he was doing it earlier
[16:11] <Pici> Isn't gOS that weird linux distro?
[16:11] <bazhang> ikonia, just kicked
[16:11] <Pici> But the ips match, so nevermind.
[16:11] <ikonia> bazhang: I don't see a ban in #ubuntu, I must have just kicked him
[16:11] <bazhang> ikonia, yep
[16:11] <bazhang> with the comment : troll elsewhere
[16:11] <ikonia> yup
[16:11] <ikonia> I remember now
[16:12] <bazhang> a week ago to the day
[16:12] <ikonia> such a waste of time, not going to allow any more of his crap
[16:13] <bazhang> he's got the link already to stop flash storing his history
[16:15] <ikonia> back in #ubuntu now, I'll keep an eye open
[16:15] <ikonia> good eyes bazhang
[16:45] <bazhang> * [mrdk] (~marduk@80.243.211.102): marduk
[16:45] <ikonia> ?
 How to uncompile java gcc into ghc piped thorugh xterm in bash via vb.NET (and I want the god damn makefile for it)
[16:47] <ikonia> whoaaaa
[16:47] <gnomefreak> i just woke up from a nap and that looks wayyy to difficult
[16:51] <ikonia> thanks bazhang
[16:52] <bazhang> he seems to want to hit all the channels
[16:52] <ikonia> of corse
[16:52] <ikonia> course
[16:53] <elky> Whoa, where do I get me some of whatever the hell he's on?
[17:07] <ikonia> can we PLEASE stop the bot doing that
[17:07] <ikonia> ????
[17:08] <bazhang> the ban list is filling up thing?
[17:08] <bazhang> ah the weekly reminders
[17:08] <ikonia> no, ubottu messaging the channel for check this ban
[17:09] <ikonia> I didn't realise making the bot do things like this was a free for all
[17:09] <bazhang> it does it for my comments as well
[17:09] <ikonia> I'll put my bot in there that messages the time every hour,
[17:09] <ikonia> that's pm
[17:09] <bazhang> heh
[17:09] <ikonia> that was discussed on the mailing list as I recall
[17:09] <ikonia> however messaging the entire #ubuntu-ops channel is not good
[17:09] <bazhang> I got one for -ot saying review your ban
[17:10] <bazhang> which is odd, considering I never ban there :)
[17:10] <IdleOne> bazhang: yeah those are in /msg but in here we get /notice from ubottu
[17:10] <IdleOne> for supposed bans
[17:10] <bazhang> IdleOne, weird, not seen them
[17:10] <ikonia> floodbot bans
[17:10] <ikonia> bazhang: do you have ctcp messags disabled
[17:11] <IdleOne> bazhang: you ignoring NOTICES?
[17:11] <bazhang> oh right I /ignore ctcp and such
[17:11] <bazhang> IdleOne, yep
[17:11] <IdleOne> that's why
[17:55] <jussi> the noticing the channel does have a point, in that it doesnt appear in channel logs.
[17:55] <ikonia> ?
[17:56] <jussi> ikonia: it doesnt appear on irclogs.ubuntu.com, so we dont get all those IPs posted to the wep.
[17:56] <jussi> web
[17:56] <ikonia> why does it need to message anyone ?
[17:56] <jpds> Can we just make it stop?
[17:57] <ikonia> that would be my request
[17:57] <IdleOne> what is the reasoning behind noticing the channel?
[17:57] <Pici> jussi: We discussed it during the IRCC meeting as well.
[17:58] <jussi> oh dear. this was decided a long time ago, when we implemented everything else. there was a discussion then also, just I hadnt gotten around to implementing it.
[17:59] <ikonia> I missed that discussion, sorry
[17:59] <jussi> why is it such a big issue? bans get looked after.
[17:59] <Pici> Notices for one are annoying.
[17:59] <ikonia> why is it such a big issue to disable it
[17:59] <IdleOne> are the floodbot bans not auto removed?
[17:59] <ikonia> I like the point on it now showing up in logs
[17:59] <Pici> Is it such a big deal to make them regular messages?
[17:59] <ikonia> I hadn't considered that
[18:00] <Pici> IdleOne: No, they aren't.
[18:00] <IdleOne> ok then
[18:00] <jussi> if we dont do something that the FB's bans are not looked after then someone has to do something big,
[18:00] <ikonia> I thought we manually checked the floodbot bans ?
[18:00] <Pici> I do.
[18:00] <ikonia> I do also, not as often as I should, granted
[18:00] <jussi> ikonia: yes, we do. and this just makes it easy to remember to do that.
[18:00] <jussi> (as they come up)
[18:01] <ikonia> I don't think it does
[18:01] <funkyHat> I'm not really sure why it's a problem for the bot to send notices anyway :/
[18:01] <ikonia> I'd rather just have it done once a week / month by people
[18:01] <ikonia> rather than review each floodbot ban
[18:01] <jussi> I mean I can redirect the notices to some other channel, but then you would need to be there also...
[18:02] <ikonia> or not
[18:02] <ikonia> just ask people to check the floodbot bans more regular
[18:02] <jussi> ikonia: point is, we did. and again. and again. and again... you get the point?
[18:02] <Pici> Notices display inconsistantly across clients.
[18:02] <funkyHat> So do normal messages ;D
[18:02] <ikonia> jussi: I know what you mean, but most people are just ignoring the messages or getting annoyed with them
[18:03] <ikonia> funkyHat: the logging is a good reason not o
[18:03] <Pici> Then it shouldn't remind here.
[18:03] <funkyHat> ikonia: I think you have my meaning mixed up
[18:03] <ikonia> possibly
[18:04] <jussi> I really dont see why its such a huge issue. but, I can, and will turn it off if there is a better solution presented.
[18:05] <jussi> for the record, I dont think that notices are annoying, but yeah.
[18:05] <ikonia> how about turn it off and we'll look at a solution
[18:08] <ikonia> does anyone know roughly how many floodbot bans that need clearing down get logged a week ?
[18:08] <ikonia> what about an automated script that removes floodbot bans a week old ?
[18:09] <jpds>  /cs clear #ubuntu bans
[18:09] <ikonia> Hmmmmmmm, perhaps not
[18:15] <ikonia> any other better suggestions ?
[18:15] <Pici> How about it remind people in -ops-monitor with normal messages?
[18:15] <IdleOne> Well now that I know that the bot doesn't remove those bans I don't mind the reminder so much but something other then a /notice might be good
[18:16] <jussi> bans, imho, need to be reviewed...
[18:16] <ikonia> I thought flood bot bans where just supposed to be temporary - non perm
[18:16] <ikonia> am I wrong on that ?
[18:17] <jussi> no ban is permanent
[18:17] <ikonia> well, ok "long term"
[18:17] <ikonia> I thought the floodbots where supposed to just be short term
[18:17] <jussi> but the bots ban for a variety of reasons.
[18:17] <jussi> including ctcp's to the channel
[18:18] <Pici> We set +C
[18:18] <ikonia> ahh good point
[18:18] <ikonia> jussi: what sort of reason would require a review ?
[18:18] <ikonia> (I don't know all their patterns - sorry)
[18:19] <ikonia> could we do something such as make the ban message part of the reason then remove (automate) certain bans with known "ok" reasons
[18:19] <jussi> Im sorry, got a small emergency here. bak in a while
[18:19] <ikonia> eg: short term quiets
[18:20] <ikonia> go sort it out
[18:20] <Pici> jussi: You may want to take a look the log for the IRCC meeting this past weekend, we discussed changes to the bot behavior.
[18:59] <Pici> mneptok: Do you just watch for these types of questions?
[19:00] <mneptok> Pici: no, caught it cycling through channel windows.
[19:49] <IdleOne> I've got from jaunty to natty
[19:49] <IdleOne> although natty is not exactly a cool nick :/
[19:50] <Pici> I keep thinking of Natty Ice
[19:51] <Pici> Because of the release name, not because I like cheap beer, which I don't.
[20:19] <mneptok> Natty Dread
[20:27] <IdleOne> sorry bout the nick changes
[20:29] <Pici> again?!
[20:29] <Pici> :P
[20:30] <Narwhal> haha yeah
[20:30] <Narwhal> nhandler: took NattyNarwhal
[20:30] <Narwhal> he sucks for that lol
[20:32] <nhandler> :)
[20:33] <Narwhal> but was nice enough to drop this one for me
[20:43] <mneptok> http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Narwhals/
[20:44] <Narwhal> NFSW a little ^^
[20:46] <mneptok> if that triggers a NSFW warning, you need a new employer. ;)
[20:47] <Narwhal> I meant the lyrics in the song
[20:47] <Narwhal> some may find it offensive
[20:47] <Narwhal> anyway...
[20:49] <mneptok> no one has the right to never be offended. and if the word "balls" offends you, life in this world is going to be extremely offensive to you every day for the rest of your life. :)