[01:28] <ScottK> robbiew: Sorry.  So it was.  I was looking at when it way accepted, not when it was uploaded (my mistake).
[01:28] <ScottK> way/was.
[03:45] <slangasek> ScottK: kubuntu-netbook i386, armel+* built; i386 posted to the tracker, armel doesn't have a spot there
[03:46] <ScottK> slangasek: Thanks.  I didn't expect armel to make the tracker (It wasn't there for the release either).
[03:46]  * slangasek nods
[10:49] <Riddell> after accepting a new linux ABI version from new queue should I be changing the seeds?
[11:19] <cjwatson> Riddell: only if you also change the installer
[11:21] <Riddell> ah
[12:08]  * Riddell wonders why ubufox is in lucid-proposed New queue when the binary is already in lucid
[13:25] <Riddell> cjwatson: can I close bug 374900 or is it still pending somehow?
[13:25] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 374900 in faac (Ubuntu) "Libfaac not LGPL (affects: 19) (heat: 128)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374900
[13:27] <cjwatson> I don't know
[13:27] <cjwatson> sorry, my mental state on this is two months old
[13:42]  * Riddell moves lame to universe
[14:23] <bdrung> Riddell: thanks for processing (all?) ubuntu-archive bugs
[14:23] <bdrung> \o/ lame in universe
[14:24] <Riddell> we've had someone else process New and some syncs recently, means I finally have a chance to get to the bottom of the pile
[14:31] <bdrung> Riddell: i processed ~100 (or even more) sync requests with ack-sync / syncpackage
[14:31] <Riddell> what's syncpackage?
[14:32] <bdrung> Riddell: wow. you haven't heard of it?
[14:33] <Riddell> I won't know unless you remind me what it is :)
[14:33] <bdrung> Riddell: ubuntu-dev-tools (maverick) -> man syncpackage
[14:33] <mathiaz> slangasek: robbiew: what's the status on 10.04.1?
[14:33] <bdrung> Riddell: isn't the name self explaining? it takes a dsc from debian and prepares a changes file for ubuntu
[14:34] <mathiaz> marjo: hi!
[14:35] <mathiaz> marjo: does anyone in your team have access to an ESX server?
[14:37] <Riddell> bdrung: so if non archive admins can just upload syncs themselves, why do archive admins have anything to do with the process?
[14:38] <bdrung> Riddell: it was discussed on the mailing list
[14:39] <bdrung> Riddell: by using syncpackage we reduce the workload for the archive admins
[14:40] <Riddell> bdrung: which list?
[14:40] <Riddell> bdrung: well yes, so why isn't the workload for the archive admins reduced to zero?
[14:41] <bdrung> Riddell: ubuntu-devel@
[14:41] <cjwatson> Riddell: because there's a fundamental danger in having this done client-side
[14:42] <bdrung> Riddell: because the process wasn't changed and some people use the "old" process.
[14:42] <cjwatson> if somebody screws up their sync client then we have no way to repair it short of uploading a new version which is desynced again
[14:42] <Riddell> cjwatson: so if it's dangerous why is it done at all?
[14:42] <cjwatson> because (a) nobody listens to me (b) I didn't want to get in the way too much; pick your favourite answer
[14:42] <cjwatson> the correct fix for this process is to have an API call in Launchpad, which I've been trying to get added for some time
[14:43] <bdrung> cjwatson: once we have this in the launchpad API, i will update the syncpackage script
[14:43] <cjwatson> sure - that's just why I don't want it to be standard process until then
[14:45] <bdrung> cjwatson: will this API support sponsoring syncs?
[14:46] <cjwatson> don't see why not, it would be "copy this version of this package from this suite into this other suite"
[14:47] <cjwatson> the somewhat odd Launchpad name for this process is "native source syncing" if you want to search for progress on it
[14:47] <bdrung> cjwatson: do you have a lp for me?
[14:47] <cjwatson> not off the top of my head ...
[14:48] <cjwatson> there is actually a syncSource method already, it's just broken in a few important ways (I filed bugs)
[14:50] <persia> It's blocked on two things: 1) actually running the update jobs to get true changelogs and copyrights into librarian, and 2) applying the security model to the sync API call.
[15:59]  * Riddell moves mplayer to universe
[16:15] <highvoltage> Riddell: what changed? licensing or ubuntu policy?
[16:15] <Riddell> both
[16:20]  * Riddell does the empty archive admin bugs list dance
[16:28] <bdrung> Riddell: empty? i count two: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive
[16:29] <Riddell> empty of the ones that are going to be processed today at least
[16:29] <Riddell> that one needs mvo around I think
[16:30] <bdrung> Riddell: thanks for working on it and getting it shorten.
[18:03] <slangasek> ara, Riddell: it appears there are some tests outstanding for both Ubuntu and Kubuntu desktops for 10.04.1, is someone covering wubi + migration assistant?
[18:05] <Riddell> migration assistant isn't relevant for Kubuntu
[18:05] <Riddell> I can't do wubi
[18:06] <slangasek> yes, only wubi is outstanding for Kubuntu
[18:07] <davmor2> slangasek: sorry on sprint can't help out no windows
[18:07] <slangasek> hmm
[18:08] <slangasek> maybe I'll just take a USB stick down to the coffee shop today and hand it to random people and record the results
[18:16] <slangasek> that wasn't really a serious suggestion, I was hoping someone here had a better idea ;)
[18:16] <ara> slangasek, I'll try to find someone for Wubi
[18:17] <slangasek> ara: thanks
[18:22] <ara> Riddell, can you cover Wubi in Ubuntu as well?
[18:22] <ara> Riddell, we don't seem to find anyone
[18:23] <Riddell> 18:05 < Riddell> I can't do wubi
[18:23] <ara> Riddell, ah, sorry, I thought you said "I can do wubi" :D
[18:23] <Riddell> unless canonical let me expense a windows computer :)
[18:26] <ScottK> Riddell: It will be tomorrow before I can do Kubuntu Netbook tests (and I can't do wubi either).  If you knew of someone willing to test it, it would be helpful.
[18:26] <slangasek> robbiew: the single wubi test we've gotten so far failed with bug #613288 - possibly a regression in a later release of wubiL
[18:26] <ScottK> Actually it's way more tested than when I looked last.
[18:27] <Riddell> maybe later tonight I could if still needed
[18:27]  * Riddell out
[18:27] <ScottK> slangasek: Looks like Kubuntu Netbook is done except wubi as well.
[18:27] <slangasek> ScottK: ack
[18:27] <robbiew> slangasek: perfect :/
[18:28]  * robbiew looks at bug 613288
[18:28] <marjo> robbiew: i suspect we would run into the same bug #613288 for ubuntu
[18:28] <cjwatson> I suspect that it depends on the version of Windows
[18:29] <cjwatson> beyond that I have zero idea what might be going on; at the moment I have no Windows system, following disk replacement
[18:29] <cjwatson> if we have to address it, ISTR that OEM have some folks with Windows expertise, and perhaps we could pull somebody in
[18:30] <robbiew> I don't see it getting fixed anytime soon though
[18:31] <robbiew> as in for today's release...and I'm not too keen on holding up 10.04.1 for wubi
[18:31] <slangasek> robbiew: needs more analysis; if it's not-a-regression and specific to some newer version of windows, we should release as-is.  If it's a regression in wubi (has wubi revved since 10.04?), we might be able to roll back to an earlier wubi release and do an ISO-only respin.
[18:31] <robbiew> ack
[18:31] <slangasek> robbiew: hum, I think wubi is fairly critical to have right on the CDs
[18:32]  * ScottK can imagine a /. headline for delaying due to wubi.
[18:32] <robbiew> exactly
[18:33]  * robbiew sees if he can borrow his wife's windows machine....
[18:33] <slangasek> as opposed to shipping a broken wubi and having a /. headline for that? :)
[18:34] <ScottK> Well sure.  It's one of those can't win situations.
[18:34] <robbiew> slangasek: so what do we need to test...and older version of wubi?
[18:35] <slangasek> robbiew: first, we need someone we can work with who can reproduce the original issue as described
[18:35] <slangasek> since the test report was from a community member we don't have contact with
[18:35]  * robbiew will try to reproduce
[18:39]  * ScottK suggests amending robbiew's job title to include "... and wubi tester."
[18:40] <robbiew> heh
[18:40]  * robbiew starts the install of Windows XP...Portuguese version...don't ask
[18:40] <robbiew> lol
[18:43]  * robbiew also grabs the wife's dual-boot netbook
[18:45] <nigelb> Portuguese.  Sweet.
[18:52] <slangasek> feedback from #ubuntu-testing: <KE1HA> Just FYI, all those users on the bug report have Vista or Later Windows Boxes, they all have that dreaded UIC ot UAC whatever it is that malfunctions everything.  I disabled it forever on Vista when I used it, else ran into stuff like that all the time.
[18:54] <slangasek> ah, but KE1HA has just reported that it also fails on XP
[18:55] <robbiew> slangasek: whew...as I don't have Vista or Win7
[18:56] <cjwatson> hm, so wubi was changed
[18:56] <cjwatson> in a rather odd way ...
[18:56] <cjwatson> cjwatson@lillypilly:/home/evand/public_html/wubi/lucid$ ls -l
[18:56] <cjwatson> ...
[18:56] <cjwatson> -rwxr-xr-x 1 evand warthogs 1469477 2010-04-26 18:06 wubi-r189.exe
[18:56] <cjwatson> -rwxr-xr-x 1 evand warthogs 1467844 2010-07-08 17:55 wubi-r190.exe
[18:56] <cjwatson> and
[18:56] <cjwatson> lrwxrwxrwx 1 evand warthogs      13 2010-07-08 17:56 stable -> wubi-r190.exe
[18:56] <cjwatson> now:
[18:56] <cjwatson> revno: 190
[18:56] <cjwatson> committer: Colin Watson <cjwatson@canonical.com>
[18:56] <cjwatson> branch nick: trunk
[18:56] <cjwatson> timestamp: Wed 2010-06-30 11:45:57 +0100
[18:56] <cjwatson> message:
[18:56] <cjwatson>   Bump to 10.10.
[18:56] <cjwatson> so I'm guessing that maybe that was accidental
[18:56] <cjwatson> would it be worth trying a rebuild with .../wubi/lucid/wubi-r189.exe rather than .../wubi/lucid/stable?
[18:57] <slangasek> cjwatson: likely - though does wubi need an update for the point release, period? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PointReleaseProcess says it does
[18:58] <cjwatson> I don't see how that commit could have caused this bug, but since it's wrong for lucid anyway then it seems worth giving a backout a go
[18:58] <cjwatson> oh, I wonder if there is a branch
[18:58] <cjwatson> ah, never mind, I think this was r190 on lp:~ubuntu-installer/wubi/lucid
[18:58] <cjwatson> "Bump Ubuntu and Kubuntu to 10.04.1."
[18:58] <slangasek> ah
[19:00] <cjwatson> this doesn't leave me with any more idea of what's going on
[19:00] <cjwatson> are we sure that the XP failure has the same error message?
[19:01] <slangasek> KE1HA, cjwatson; cjwatson, KE1HA. :)
[19:01] <cjwatson> god, I really don't want to be on the hook for wubi
[19:02] <slangasek> well
[19:02] <cjwatson> for one thing I don't have a build system set up for it
[19:02] <KE1HA> Hello all, Im just downloading the Wubi.exe binary now.
[19:02] <slangasek> should we ring ev?
[19:02] <cjwatson> it might be a plan
[19:02] <marjo> slangasek: yes, please
[19:02] <cjwatson> is he on inaccessible-holiday or merely on holiday?
[19:02] <slangasek> cjwatson: in any case, I have to dive out for the next 15 minutes for a phone call; can you do the needful? :)
[19:02] <robbiew> I don't know
[19:03] <KE1HA> I;ve got them two logs now if you want them.
[19:03] <KE1HA> going to upd the bug 1st
[19:03] <cjwatson> I'll SMS him now
[19:03] <marjo> cjwatson: thx!
[19:06] <cjwatson> sent, can't guarantee anything
[19:08] <KE1HA> Ok, all done posting to the Bug.
[19:09]  * cjwatson wonders if dding the backup of his Windows partition into a fresh partition in a VM will result in anything usable
[19:09] <cjwatson> my guess is a big fat no
[19:09] <ara> mine too :D
[19:10] <KE1HA> 1st questoin, what is a Metalink ?  that's what it can't get fer some reason, the url to the ISO or somethign ?
[19:10] <KE1HA> While you guys are looking that over, Im going to try the standalone version.
[19:11] <cjwatson> KE1HA: er, that sounds like a different error from the one we were seeing on Windows 7
[19:11] <cjwatson> metalink is a download manager file format
[19:11] <KE1HA> Yes, I thought so too.
[19:11] <cjwatson> please file a fresh bug
[19:12] <KE1HA> Ok
[19:12] <KE1HA> Let me try the standalone verson first here.
[19:12] <cjwatson> your problem will actually magically resolve itself once 10.04.1 is released properly
[19:13] <KE1HA> Does this thing really need 17GB of space ?
[19:13] <cjwatson> the reason you're seeing it now is that wubi's set of metalink URLs haven't been updated for the new locations for lucid daily builds following lucid's release
[19:13] <cjwatson> so KE1HA's test is actually confirmation that XP does not suffer from bug 613288
[19:13] <KE1HA> Now that makes since.
[19:14] <cjwatson> wait, no it's not, it doesn't get far enough for that
[19:14] <KE1HA> Im trying the Standalone, I expect it will fail on the metalink as well. But I dont know if bug 613288 happens before or after the metalink.
[19:14] <cjwatson> don't bother with standalone, not interesting
[19:14] <cjwatson> let me install a really cheesy temporary hack
[19:16] <marjo> cjwatson, davmor2 here I've said I can possibly head home from the sprint tomorrow and hit this on my windows boxes there
[19:16] <marjo> cjwatson: and i support this idea, as necessary
[19:16] <robbiew> marjo: I'd like to release 10.04.1 today if at all possible
[19:16] <marjo> robbiew: +1
[19:17] <robbiew> I'm running a test now
[19:17] <cjwatson> I'm putting some HTTP redirects in place so that the old daily download URLs work
[19:17] <robbiew> WindowsXP though
[19:17] <cjwatson> KE1HA: could you please try your XP test from CD again, with no changes?
[19:17] <KE1HA> Ok.
[19:18] <KE1HA> Using the same Image i originalyl burned ?
[19:18] <cjwatson> yes, the 10.04.1 candidate image
[19:18] <KE1HA> rr ok
[19:18] <cjwatson> I have caused the metalink URLs built into it to work
[19:18] <cjwatson> nobody is to look too hard at how. :-)
[19:19] <KE1HA> Aren't these metalinks hard coded in the API ?
[19:20] <KE1HA> Or does it go fetch some data forst
[19:20] <KE1HA> first*
[19:20] <cjwatson> the metalinks are URLs; it fetches from them
[19:20] <cjwatson> I control the server on which those URLs are hosted and so can make them work
[19:20] <KE1HA> Oh, I see you out the re-direct on your end, got it.
[19:20] <KE1HA> put*
[19:21] <KE1HA> so it's gonna go fetch from the same place, only to be re-directed.
[19:21] <cjwatson> this should hopefully get you past the previous error and then we can find out whether you're encountering the same bug as people are seeing on Windows 7
[19:21] <cjwatson> since it happens after fetching the metalink
[19:21] <KE1HA> Ah, that's what I didn't know before, which one happed first.
[19:22] <robbiew> cjwatson: so I ran the wubi.exe file and it is currently downloading the iso
[19:22] <KE1HA> Im on three KB's here, and can't type to begin wiht so excuse the typo's :-)
[19:22] <cjwatson> 07-20 10:52 DEBUG  Distro:   checking Ubuntu ISO C:\ubuntu\install\installation.iso
[19:22] <cjwatson> 07-20 10:52 DEBUG  Distro:     wrong size: 2003522560 > 900000000
[19:22] <KE1HA> It went Past the Fetch, it's Downloading, Slow, but it's on its way.
[19:23] <cjwatson> also suspicious from your log, but never mind if it seems to be working now
[19:23] <cjwatson> not sure why it's downloading if you're running from a CD
[19:24] <KE1HA> I dont know, says downloading lucid-desktop-iso.
[19:24] <KE1HA> Its funny, cuz I can see all the folders it needs on the disk
[19:25] <cjwatson> dinnertime
[19:25] <KE1HA> Indeed, this has got at least 2h 20m to DL it says.
[19:26] <cjwatson> did you actually boot from the CD you burned?
[19:26] <cjwatson> or did you just run wubi.exe from it?
[19:26] <cjwatson> oh, wait, if you booted from it it would boot into Ubuntu, duh. ignore me.
[19:26] <KE1HA> No, opened it in Windows explorer
[19:26] <KE1HA> :-)
[19:27] <KE1HA> You may as well take a break, this is gonna take a while. Which Mirror did you re-direct me too ?
[19:28] <cjwatson> same mirror, just a different URL on it
[19:28] <cjwatson> RedirectTemp /daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-i386.metalink http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-i386.metalink
[19:28] <KE1HA> Is US west-cost mirror ?
[19:28] <cjwatson> cdimage.u.c is London
[19:28] <KE1HA> Ahh, thats why so long to DL. Im in MT. Near Idaho.
[19:29] <cjwatson> there aren't many mirrors of daily builds
[19:29] <KE1HA> Ok
[19:29] <KE1HA> anyways, enjoy dinnrer, we've got 2hrs 15mins to go :-)
[19:30] <KE1HA> flippen windows, I DL this in 20 / 30 mins with zsync on my workstation.
[19:32] <robbiew> cjwatson: slangasek: I was able to successfully install to a WindowsXP machine using the wubi.exe file from the daily
[19:33] <slangasek> robbiew: ok
[19:34] <KE1HA> Is that the Wubi binary DL, not the one included on the image?
[19:34] <slangasek> bladernr, ara: do you know if any of the wubi testing at release time was done against Vista?
[19:34] <slangasek> KE1HA: "from the daily" -> the one included on the image
[19:34] <KE1HA> ok
[19:34] <robbiew> slangasek: skat can test against vista ;)
[19:34] <robbiew> is downloading the iso now
[19:34] <slangasek> ok
[19:35] <ara> slangasek, davmor2 says yes
[19:35] <slangasek> alrighty
[19:35] <KE1HA> Yeah, I don't knwo what it's DLing, the ISO is already there, thats kinda daft.
[19:35] <KE1HA> Why it's*
[19:36] <robbiew> slangasek: Win7...not Vista, but still should be a useful test
[19:38] <marjo> robbiew: davmor2 says he tested w/ Vista
[19:38] <marjo> at release time
[19:38] <robbiew> marjo: ack...skat is testing with Win7
[19:38] <marjo> robbiew: ack that
[19:45]  * robbiew spoke too soon...the wubi install completed...and launched the ubuntu install...which completed, but fails to boot :/
[19:47] <davmor2> cjwatson would it help if I went home? if so robbiew can sanction my fuel cost right :)
[19:47] <slangasek> robbiew: hmmm, probably an unrelated bug?
[19:47] <robbiew> yeah
[19:47] <slangasek> what's the failure?
[19:48] <davmor2> robbiew did it drop straight into grub shell?
[19:48] <KE1HA> I though Wubi was like LiveCD but fer within WonDoze ?
[19:49] <KE1HA> It doen't actually mess wiht the MBR right ?
[19:50] <robbiew> davmor2: no..I get a weird error message....I'll try to catch it
[19:50] <davmor2> KE1HA no it  installs the image to virtual  drives inside  windows.
[19:50] <slangasek> KE1HA: it injects Ubuntu into the boot process; I don't remember if it installs to the MBR, or if it sets itself up as a boot target from within the NT loader
[19:50] <robbiew> disclaimer: this machine is dual-boot...so I boot into windows..then try to boot into Ubuntu...if that makes a difference
[19:51] <robbiew> davmor2: ^
[19:51] <davmor2> grub for windows
[19:52] <KE1HA> i see.
[19:55] <davmor2> slangasek, robbiew I can get home in 1 hour 30 to 2 hours but I would like to be back tomorrow if you guys sanction the fuel bill I'll drive home and back it'll cost you 50 quid
[19:56] <KE1HA> Ok, while we wait, how does the LiveCD boot process differ from the Wubi Boot Process, or is that what is used on the live boot?
[19:57] <slangasek> KE1HA: the liveCD boots from CD, Wubi boots from the hard drive
[19:57] <slangasek> davmor2: I hold no purse strings :)
[19:57] <davmor2> I have the advantages of knowing what it should do and windows 98 xp vista and win 7
[19:58] <robbiew> davmor2: I don't have that authority
[19:58] <SpamapS> I have a Dell mini10n here with a fresh install of Windows 7 .. would that help to test wubi?
[19:58] <robbiew> SpamapS: yes!
[19:58] <SpamapS> will start the process after the server team meeting
[19:59] <robbiew> SpamapS: thnx
[20:01] <KE1HA> Im abt 1/2 way though now. watching the cows come home.
[20:07] <SpamapS> robbiew: where is the 10.04.1 wubi download?
[20:07] <robbiew> SpamapS: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-i386.iso
[20:07] <robbiew> you'll need to use the ISO version
[20:07] <robbiew> this is the release candidate ISO
[20:07] <robbiew> wubi.exe is on there
[20:08] <SpamapS> right, downloading now
[20:24] <SpamapS> davmor2: can you at least share with me what it should/shouldn't do since I have a windows 7 box here (and 4 minutes left on my download)
[20:26] <davmor2> SpamapS: so there is a guide I'll grab you the link in a minute.  Basically you boot windows, insert the cd, nice menu pops you, you select install inside windows, type in a password, it sets up the virtual drives inside windows, copies the parts of the iso it needs then installs the windows side of stuff
[20:26] <davmor2> you then on boot get windows for
[20:26] <davmor2> or ubuntu option
[20:27] <davmor2> choose the ubuntu option, this then does an automated ubiquity install
[20:27] <KE1HA> Here's the one ara gave me: http://blog.cyphermox.net/2010/06/wubi-installing-ubuntu-inside-windows.html
[20:28] <davmor2> SpamapS: you then have a full ubuntu install inside windows
[20:31] <davmor2> SpamapS: does that help?
[20:36] <SpamapS> davmor2: sure, do I have to burn the CD, or can I just run wubi after mounting the iso?
[20:37] <davmor2> SpamapS: Helps if it is from cd as it would give a more realistic result but at this time anything that works is good
[20:45] <SpamapS> having trouble actually finding the optical drive.. so I'm running it from the iso directly for now
[20:47] <skat_> Spamap5, I'll burn a CD then.
[20:48] <davmor2> robbiew: at this point it's getting to late in the day for me to go home,  if there is an issue and cjwatson needs to fix it that will mean respinning all the live cd's in which case it ain't happening till tomorrow.  At which point I'll go home and kill all the iso in the morning and come back for the afternoon.
[20:49] <robbiew> davmor2: ok
[20:52] <davmor2> ara: did you eat?
[20:55]  * SpamapS reboots
[21:00] <ara> davmor2, yes
[21:04] <davmor2> SpamapS: talk to us, please
[21:05]  * skat_ reboots too...
[21:06] <SpamapS> 384% verifying configuration was a little weird..
[21:06] <SpamapS> but its in the "Calculating files" stage
[21:06] <SpamapS> and now "Copying files..."
[21:06] <davmor2> yeah it is a liitle
[21:07] <SpamapS> davmor2: is that a new bug?
[21:08] <skat_> on splash screen when its working on config it says welcome to 10.4 LTS,  shouldn't that be 10.4.1?
[21:08] <davmor2> SpamapS: no that's an old bug that they can't do much about currently
[21:08] <SpamapS> ah ok. :)
[21:08] <SpamapS> I never paid this close attention to the install. :)
[21:09] <davmor2> SpamapS: it only does it on wubi, in the normal installer it does need to register the 100%'s for partitioning, formatting etc
[21:09] <slangasek> skat_: ideally yes, but I don't think we synchronize those messages with the point release
[21:10] <SpamapS> 60% copying files
[21:11] <skat_> slangasek, cjwatson - install from CD with candidate via WUBI is working on Vista 7 - Dell Inspiron N5010
[21:11] <SpamapS> skat_: I thin its reasonable to just show major versions in splash screens and installers. .1 is more important in an "About" screen, bug report, or release notes type situation.
[21:11] <skat_> Ubuntu had never been installed on this system before, so its a clean install.
[21:12] <davmor2> skat: it needs to get all the way through the windows part of the install then the linux part and then reboot into the fully installed system
[21:12] <slangasek> skat_: ok, then it really sounds like the issues people are having are a corner case and not a regression - thanks for testing!
[21:12] <skat_> davmor2,  yes.   it did.
[21:12] <SpamapS> I'm at configuring hardware.
[21:12] <davmor2> Yay!
[21:12] <slangasek> skat_: can you record your results under the appropriate test on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all?
[21:12] <robbiew> \o/
[21:13] <robbiew> she may not have an account there yet
[21:13] <skat_> just point me at what I need to do, and I'll try.. ;)
[21:13] <slangasek> I bet it's faster for her to create an account than for someone else to retest, though :)
[21:14] <SpamapS> I've got an iso testing account, will register my results there too as soon as it completes.
[21:14] <davmor2> skat: just click on login create an account once that is done give me a ping I can talk you through the rest
[21:14] <cjwatson> slangasek: corner case> agreed, more or less ...
[21:14] <skat_> davmor2,  okie.
[21:14] <slangasek> skat_: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/user/register to create an account, then once you're logged in you pick the image from the list that corresponds to what you've actually tested, then drill down into "wubi" and record your test as a success
[21:15] <cjwatson> skat_: do file a bug about the bogus message, we should fix that for .2
[21:15] <marjo> skat: ara can also help you or will record your results for you
[21:15] <davmor2> cjwatson: which one?
[21:15] <cjwatson> 21:08 <skat_> on splash screen when its working on config it says welcome to 10.4 LTS,  shouldn't that be 10.4.1?
[21:15] <davmor2> the 384%
[21:15] <cjwatson> I think there's already a bug about the stupid percentage
[21:15] <cjwatson> tedium incarnate to track down though :-/
[21:15] <davmor2> there is I filed it
[21:15] <SpamapS> rebooting....
[21:16] <SpamapS> I got a grub menu.. which is not mentioned in the testing steps
[21:16] <SpamapS> booted, logging in
[21:16] <davmor2> SpamapS: it is in the original I think
[21:17] <cjwatson> the grub menu is supposed to be there
[21:17] <cjwatson> I think
[21:17] <SpamapS> hearing drums
[21:17] <SpamapS> Once at the Windows Boot menu select Ubuntu again and press Enter
[21:17] <SpamapS> At the login screen type in your user name and press Enter
[21:17] <SpamapS> thats from http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopWubi
[21:17] <SpamapS> other than that grub menu, looks good
[21:18] <robbiew> grub menu is expected
[21:19] <ara> skat_, let me know if you need anything
[21:20] <robbiew> Time to kick the tires and light the fires!
[21:20] <SpamapS> Ok, well wubi works then on my Dell Mini1012 from pre-installed Windows 7 starter
[21:20] <davmor2> SpamapS:  wdi-002  step5 I think you'll find the menu is there
[21:20] <cyphermox> wubi was working for me from the CD on a Toshiba Tecra A10
[21:20] <skat_> ara,  davmor2,  have created account,  now figuring out.... how to log it...
[21:21] <cyphermox> sorry it took so long, windows wouldn't recognize the wifi or eth device, so I couldn't start wdi-004
[21:21] <cjwatson> I have a fix for the issue that required an HTTP redirect workaround, but am leaving wubi bzr the hell alone until we're done with .1
[21:21] <ara> skat_, are you logged in?
[21:21] <robbiew> cjwatson: amen to that
[21:24] <robbiew> cjwatson: I can burn through the change summary, assuming you figured out how to work around that python error I was getting
[21:25] <SpamapS> Is there anything else I can do?
[21:26] <cjwatson> robbiew: oh, I forgot about that
[21:26]  * cjwatson goes to poke
[21:27] <robbiew> SpamapS: nah...I think that was the last verification we needed
[21:28] <cjwatson> maybe I should just use python3 for lucid-updates.py :P
[21:28] <cjwatson> I bet launchpadlib isn't set up for it
[21:28] <marjo> SpamapS, cyphermox, skat_, KE1HA: thx for all your help testing at the last minute
[21:29] <SpamapS> np. :) My wife will be thrilled that I finally replaced dumpy old windows 7 on her netbook with lucid. :-D
[21:29] <robbiew> lol
[21:30] <marjo> SpamapS: this was a great excuse to do so
[21:30] <slangasek> robbiew: "last verification" - are we not testing wubi across all images?  there are 4 desktop images total that I'm expecting to be in 10.04.1, each of which has a wubi test case
[21:30] <robbiew> slangasek: I thought the others passed...grrr
[21:31] <slangasek> robbiew: we had had a total of one test which was the failure; the only successes are the ones we've just heard about in this channel in the past couple of hours, and I'm not sure which images they were done on
[21:32] <robbiew> SpamapS: skat_: I'm assuming you both did Ubuntu i386, correct
[21:32] <robbiew> ?
[21:32] <SpamapS> yes i386
[21:32] <robbiew> cyphermox: your test was i386 as well
[21:33] <skat_> robbiew,   yup did the one you pointed me at ;)
[21:34] <marjo> robbiew: the missing wubi testing are: kubuntu desktop amd64, kubuntu netbook i386, ubuntu desktop amd64
[21:35] <robbiew> skat_: you do the Kubuntu i386?
[21:35] <robbiew> could you
[21:35] <davmor2> no m-a tests either
[21:35] <cjwatson> robbiew: (testing my fix, sorry, it takes a while to churn through all the language-pack .changes files)
[21:36] <robbiew> cjwatson: no worries
[21:36] <davmor2> marjo, robbiew: Migration assistant hasn't been tested either on Ubuntu 32bit or 64bit
[21:37] <robbiew> davmor2: ack...I'll  test those in a virt machine now
[21:37] <davmor2> robbiew: needs Windows to migrate against
[21:38] <robbiew> davmor2: yeah...I know ;)
[21:39] <davmor2> robbiew: I'm just taking nothing for granted right :)
[21:39] <robbiew> aye
[21:39] <skat_> robbiew,  download full, burn image, and repeat?
[21:39] <davmor2> skat: yeap
[21:40] <davmor2> robbiew: is someone able to test the 64bit wubi too?
[21:40] <skat_> davmor2, ok - starting download now then....
[21:40] <robbiew> davmor2: does she need to uninstall Ubuntu from the windows side first?
[21:40] <davmor2> robbiew:  nope the windows side installer will do that
[21:40] <robbiew> cool
[21:41] <davmor2> detects that there is already a version on the system and removes it then triggers the install
[21:42] <robbiew> davmor2: hmm...I don't now (re 64bit wubi).../me hunts for a 64bit XP CD
[21:42] <davmor2> robbiew: you don't need 64bit xp
[21:42] <cjwatson> robbiew: try lucid-updates.py from the same URL again - my test hasn't completed though, it's just taking too long
[21:42] <cjwatson> but you might have faster internet than me
[21:42] <robbiew> davmor2: oh cool
[21:42] <davmor2> robbiew: you only need 64bit capable cpu
[21:42] <robbiew> cjwatson: ack
[21:43] <robbiew> I have that
[21:43] <robbiew> thought the test needed wubi ran on a 64bit XP installation
[21:43] <davmor2> robbiew: no it just installs 64bit ubuntu on the system.
[21:44] <robbiew> gotcha
[21:47] <KE1HA> Finally, 2h 11m 0.335 mins later, its work'en :-)
[21:49] <marjo> KE1HA: are you able to test with kbuntu netbook i386?
[21:51] <davmor2> marjo, robbiew, slangasek: is there no une for .1?
[21:51] <KE1HA> well, yes and not, I spoke too soon. I can get to the Boot Option mention, but after the Plymouth splash, it's all locked up, but that's a different bug, nowt to do with Wubi.
[21:51] <robbiew> davmor2: correct, as UNE was not an LTS
[21:51] <davmor2> robbiew: thank god for that
[21:52] <robbiew> :D
[21:52] <KE1HA> I should have known better, this is the whole reason UB is not on this laptop to begin with.
[21:54] <marjo> robbiew: cyphermox is trying to help out w/ ubuntu desktop amd64
[21:54] <robbiew> marjo: perfect
[21:55] <cyphermox> marjo, hey, I chose kubuntu!
[21:55] <marjo> kubuntu desktop amd64, i meant
[21:55] <robbiew> marjo: EVEN BETTER!
[21:55] <robbiew> :D
[21:55]  * robbiew stops his kubuntu 64bit ISO download
[21:56] <cyphermox> ah, it's downloaded now, thx for zsync
[21:56] <ara> long life
[21:57] <marjo> yeah zsync!
[21:57] <cyphermox> there may have something to give to the pipes in the office here, but I'm sure it's 95% zsync :)
[21:59] <marjo> cyphermox: can you please go ahead and start download of ubuntu desktop amd64 on the side?
[21:59] <cyphermox> sure
[22:00] <marjo> cyphermox: thx
[22:00] <cyphermox> this should go even faster, citron should already have it
[22:00] <marjo> cyphermox: nice
[22:00] <cyphermox> any reason amd64 would bomb on a 32 bit windows?
[22:02] <davmor2> cyphermox: no the install should run exactly the same
[22:02] <robbiew> cjwatson: FYI...got pass the previous issue...seems to be rolling along now
[22:02] <cyphermox> davmor2, thx, that's what I thought
[22:02] <marjo> cyphermox: you may as well go for "kubuntu netbook i386" if you've got the pipes, zsync, hw, windows
[22:03] <cyphermox> marjo, I only have one windows machine -- ran the install for vista this morning/early afternoon
[22:03] <davmor2> cyphermox: the only thing that windows actually provide the install is an ntfs partition and away to start the install
[22:03] <marjo> cyphermox: ack
[22:03] <KE1HA> Is anyone doing Migration pm UB-Desktop-AMD64 ?
[22:03] <marjo> KE1HA: no, go for it! thx
[22:03] <KE1HA> rr
[22:04] <davmor2> KE1HA: that's another one against windows
[22:06] <KE1HA> It just says resize the drive with the slider, I dont see Windows anywhere on the page, where's it say for Windows?
[22:07] <davmor2> KE1HA: it's designed to run against windows that's what it migrates from properly
[22:07] <KE1HA> Oh, ok, well bugger, I just installed a 20GB VM so I could resize it :-)
[22:10] <KE1HA> Well things are looking pretty spiffy at this point I'd say.
[22:11] <marjo> KE1HA: good to hear
[22:12] <KE1HA> I could not reproduce either of the red-bugs today when I tried.
[22:22] <marjo> KE1HA: which images did you test with? did you report your results at: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ ?
[22:23] <KE1HA> I testes with 20100816.1 and 16.2 ... yes, I got though about 60 of them or so.
[22:23] <KE1HA> tested*
[22:24] <cjwatson> robbiew: oh good
[22:25] <KE1HA> Over all, the only bugs I saw were minor, and certainly not show stoppers like this Wubi thing was.
[22:25] <marjo> KE1HA: ack & thx
[22:40] <cyphermox> is there a good reason to re-test wdi-004 with multiple flavours?
[22:40] <cyphermox> so far kubuntu desktop amd64 is good w/ wdi-00[123]
[22:41] <cyphermox> wdi-004 is downloading and using the standalone wubi instead of the one from the cd
[22:42] <KE1HA> I would think so, Win7 FS is diff than Vista and XP, and then there UAC and all that noise on Vista.
[22:42] <KE1HA> with XP comming in the easiest I'd say.
[22:42] <cyphermox> KE1HA, no, I mean flavours of Ubuntu :) e.g. Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.
[22:43] <KE1HA> Oh... SRI man, Im a bit knackerd at the moment :-)
[22:44] <robbiew> cyphermox: the only difference is that wubi has to download the iso
[22:45] <robbiew> so should probably start it
[22:45] <robbiew> but if the iso downloads and the reboot into the installer works..I would think that's a pass
[22:45] <robbiew> i.e. no need to complete the install as well...as that's the same as wdi-001 at that point
[22:47] <cyphermox> robbiew, indeed.
[22:47] <cyphermox> ok, I kept the pages open so I'll re-change to started and do that part once I'm done with ubuntu desktop amd64
[22:47] <marjo> robbiew: when cyphermox is done with his two tests, that should finish the untested wubi cases
[22:48] <marjo> since kubuntu netbook i386 is not a valid test case for 10.04.1
[22:48] <robbiew> marjo: still need skat_ to complete the Kubuntu i386 wubi
[22:49] <marjo> robbiew: ack
[22:49] <robbiew> marjo: I just completed the migration assistant test...i386...pass
[22:49] <marjo> robbiew: please extend our thanks to your wife for lending the equipment
[22:50] <robbiew> marjo: heh...she was using her Mac at the time anyway
[22:50]  * robbiew just used virtual machine...easier 
[22:51] <robbiew> and if I mess something up...it's on MY machine ;)
[22:51] <ara> wife/husband/partner datacentre is become more and more frequent in Canonical
[22:51] <marjo> robbiew: i almost killed my eeepc running virtualbox today
[22:53] <robbiew> ara: :)
[22:53] <robbiew> marjo: lol
[23:06] <slangasek> cyphermox: how is kubuntu amd64 wubi coming?
[23:08] <ara> are we there yet?
[23:08] <ara> :)
[23:09] <slangasek> cyphermox: oh, I guess you're taking /both/ the outstanding wubi test cases... so.. how are /they/ going? :)
[23:11] <slangasek> ara: did you and cjwatson have a chance to discuss bug #619353, or is that backburnered?
[23:12] <cyphermox> slangasek, almost done :)
[23:12] <slangasek> spiff
[23:17] <robbiew> slangasek: testing migration assistant with Ubuntu Desktop 64bit now...had to download the ISO :/
[23:19] <robbiew> "UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 93: unexpected end of data" ugh...so maybe we don't need a change summary for 10.04.1
[23:22] <cjwatson> ara: sort of looks like a network problem, from the logs - can't talk to ntp.ubuntu.com, fails to connect to the target at the network layer, and lots of chatter from dhclient ...
[23:23] <cjwatson> hard to say though, guess I'll have to give it a try once I get my target working again
[23:24] <cjwatson> robbiew: there's a debug print commented out I think; if you uncomment that we might get an idea of where it's failing
[23:24] <robbiew> cjwatson: oh man...it took A LONG time to get through the k's :/
[23:25] <cjwatson> yeah, I know :(
[23:26] <cjwatson> hate python's unicode handling sometimes
[23:26] <cyphermox> someone please remind me to rig the lab to do windows installs prior to maverick release... takes forever to test so many things with just one windows box :/
[23:26] <cjwatson> it's one of the few unambiguously sucky bits of the core language.  fortunately better in 3, I'm told
[23:36] <cyphermox> Ubuntu Desktop amd64
[23:36] <cyphermox> ^ pass
[23:37] <cyphermox> finishing up with kubuntu desktop amd64. I'm sure it's okay, but I messed up my password and couldn't get in, so I'm doing the install again
[23:37] <robbiew> cyphermox: doh!
[23:38] <cyphermox> robbiew, indeed.
[23:40] <robbiew> Ubuntu 64bit migration assistant -> PASS
[23:40] <ara> cjwatson, but the dhcp works, do you want me to test anything else?
[23:40] <marjo> cyphermox: go easy there
[23:40] <marjo> robbiew: ack
[23:50] <cyphermox> Kubuntu Desktop amd64 wubi <--- PASS
[23:51] <davmor2> Yay!
[23:53] <robbiew> it's all on you now skat_....no pressure
[23:53] <robbiew> :P
[23:53] <marjo> cyphermox: good man
[23:54] <skat_> robbiew, 88% of kubuntu ....  right now and counting..  ;)
[23:54] <robbiew> didn't help her progress much that I gave her the wrong link earlier (to Kubuntu 10.10)...http://www.sadtrombone.com
[23:55] <skat_> has same 10.4 vs. 10.4.1 issue in the splash screens.
[23:56] <marjo> robbiew: you meant well
[23:56] <robbiew> skat_: um, yeah....we can live with that bug :P
[23:56] <robbiew> marjo: perhaps....uuaahahahahahhaaaa!
[23:56] <robbiew> joking
[23:57] <ara> mmm, it is the first day I heard about sadtrombone and the second time today...
[23:58] <marjo> ara: you haven't been hanging around jono much
[23:58] <robbiew> marjo: more like hanging around the managers much...we have "issues"...lol
[23:58] <skat_> robbiew,  Kubuntu Desktop i386 WUBI ... pass  :0
[23:58] <skat_> s/:0/:)/
[23:59] <marjo> robbiew: i didn't want to tell ara that
[23:59] <marjo> skat_: thx much!
[23:59]  * robbiew does the pom-poms icon   *\o/*  
[23:59] <marjo> robbiew: i think that covers all outstanding tests, agree?
[23:59] <ara> :D
[23:59] <robbiew> marjo: yes