[00:02] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.3.2-beta
[00:05] <ulysses> \„/
[00:07] <ulysses> Amarok 2.3.2 won't be in Maverick?
[01:40] <ScottK> When is it planned for release?
[01:40] <ScottK> Is there a 10.04.1 release announcement planned?
[01:40] <ScottK> ryanakca: ^^^?
[02:34] <ScottK> ryanakca, Riddell, whoever has access: I can't seem to get auth to make a 10.04.1 release announcement for kubuntu.org.  I think we ought to have one.
[02:57] <ryanakca> ScottK: Pong
[02:58] <ScottK> ryanakca: 10.04.1 release just happened so all the kubuntu.org download links are broken.
[02:58] <ryanakca> ScottK: New website still only works under Konqueror. Do you have the new username / password?
[02:58] <ryanakca> ScottK: newz2000 and I are working on that
[02:58] <ScottK> ryanakca: I don't.
[02:58] <ScottK> OK.  Great.
[02:59] <ryanakca> ScottK: see /msg
[02:59] <ScottK> Yep.  I'll work on an announcement.
[03:06] <ryanakca> ScottK: Download page should now be up to date.
[03:07] <ScottK> Cool.  I'll do an announcement then.
[03:07] <ScottK> I can confirm that.
[03:07] <ryanakca> ScottK: Alright, will there be any updates to the ports?
[03:08] <ScottK> I'll check.
[03:08] <ryanakca> ScottK: Thanks
[03:16] <ScottK> ryanakca: Published.  Feel free to improve it.
[03:16] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[03:18] <ryanakca> ScottK: Thanks. If you hear back on the ports, you can update the link or send me an email and I'll take care of it in 6 or so hours. Until then, I'm off to bed :)
[03:18] <ScottK> ryanakca: OK.  Thanks for the help.
[03:19] <ScottK> Ports are less urgent in any case....
[03:20] <ryanakca> OK
[03:20] <ScottK> twedented too.
[03:23] <ryanakca> If you're distributing the text elsewhere, I've updated the announcement to fix a typo (s/do/to) and added a missing 'are'. In any case, really off to bed, thanks for writing the announcement :)
[03:23] <ScottK> ryanakca: I'm not.  Thanks.
[03:23] <ScottK> Actually I'll send mail.  Thanks again.
[03:26] <ScottK> Would someone who has ops in #kubuntu update /topic there.
[03:26] <maco> can do
[03:26] <maco> what should i update it with?
[03:26] <maco> oh the released thing?
[03:26] <ScottK> Yeah.
[03:26] <maco> uh is there a url to replace the kubuntu.org 10.04 released link?
[03:27] <ScottK> It'd be nice if someone who was subscribed to the Kubuntu user's list would write there too.
[03:27] <ScottK> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-and-kubuntu-netbook-10041
[03:27] <ScottK> It's pretty basic though.
[03:28] <maco> ok updated
[03:32] <valorie> no pictures!
[03:32] <valorie> for the Amarok release too -- no screenie
[03:39] <ScottK> Riddell can do a proper release announcement when he wakes up.
[03:40] <ScottK> That or ryanakca.
[03:40] <ScottK> That's what you get from me on a "why didn't someone else have this taken care of, OMG, I better do something" basis.
[03:40] <valorie> :-)
[03:41] <valorie> thanks for what you do, ScottK
[03:41] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[03:56] <valorie> apachelogger: natty narwhal look for ya - http://doctormo.deviantart.com/#/d2wn1ey
[04:06] <ScottK> Someone on planet.ubuntu.com please blog about Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook 10.04.1.
[04:06]  * ScottK is too tired.
[04:07]  * valorie ain't on ooobuntu.com
[04:07] <ScottK> JontheEchidna could do it.
[04:08] <nixternal> ahh, there is the amarok beta :)
[04:08] <nixternal> ScottK: I will do it
[04:08] <ScottK> nixternal: Thanks.
[04:10] <maco> i can do it
[04:10] <maco> oh wait
[04:10] <maco> im too slow
[04:10] <ScottK> maco: More than one is great.  I just wanted to make sure it was at least one.
[04:11] <maco> Riddell's still connected?  the server hosting his shell just went down....
[04:11] <ScottK> No.  He's not.
[04:11] <ScottK> Just hadn't timed out yet.
[04:11] <maco> oh there we go :P
[04:12] <maco> i was about to PM him / sladen on here to tell them "hey muse is down" but then realised they're both shell'd to here from there..
[04:16] <nixternal> task completed
[04:16] <nixternal> maco: after a few posts have hit the planet, do a post again
[04:17] <nixternal> I covered pk.o and p.u.c
[04:20] <maco> and when i do mine itll go to p.u-w.c and.... hmm... linuxchix, wfs, linux planet, i think theres another but cant think of it
[04:20] <maco> well p.u.c too obviously
[11:53] <Riddell> agateau: konqueror patch not perfect, it appears on the wrong side of the search bar plugin http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/konqueror.jpeg
[11:53] <Riddell> I wonder how that worked in KDE 3 days
[11:54] <agateau> Riddell: isn't it beautiful that way?
[11:54] <agateau> Riddell: just kidding
[11:54] <Riddell> good enough for me to upload
[11:54] <agateau> Riddell: can you unlock the toolbars to check if the search bar is in its own toolbar?
[11:55] <Riddell> agateau: it's all part of the location toolbar
[11:56] <agateau> Riddell: ok, should be fixable then
[11:56] <Riddell> so maybe something needs added to the rc file to say "merge plugin bits here"?
[11:57] <agateau> Riddell: that's it
[11:58] <agateau> Riddell: I assume I placed my action in the wrong position
[12:02] <agateau> Riddell: weird, the location bar as no merging bits in it
[12:02] <agateau> Riddell: maybe that's the reason it's appended actually
[12:03] <Riddell> agateau: if I add in the <Merge/> that fixes it
[12:07] <agateau> Riddell: yes, just tried it
[12:07] <agateau> Riddell: will update the MR
[12:10] <Riddell> does konqueror even have a maintainer now?  I suspect nobody is going to look at that merge request
[12:12] <agateau> Riddell: I am afraid so
[12:12] <agateau> Riddell: That's why I added David
[12:13] <agateau> I talked to Maksim Orlovich, but he was not really fond of the idea
[12:13] <Riddell> last I heard David doesn't do khtml/konq now since the world is moving away
[12:13] <agateau> I think he is trying to keep konq alive, maybe with webkit backend
[12:14] <agateau> he was looking at some konq mockups from kde-look during akademy
[12:16] <shadeslayer> does anyone have experience with kdesrc-build?
[12:17] <Riddell> agateau: uploaded
[12:17] <Riddell> apachelogger: includes your lack of previews  /me cries
[12:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: pardon?
[12:19] <Riddell> turned off previews in dolphin, it makes me sad
[12:19] <apachelogger> ohhh :(
[12:19]  * apachelogger says "there there" and taps Riddell on the shoulder ^^
[12:19] <Riddell> maybe I should change to nautilus, it does previews fine
[12:20] <apachelogger> it also does have api to enhance preview capabilities with easy plugin stuff
[12:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we have a patch for bug 596926 on b.k.o
[12:21] <Riddell> shadeslayer: awooga
[12:21] <shadeslayer> do you want me to package it?
[12:21] <shadeslayer> :D
[12:21] <shadeslayer> or wait for it to be approved by upstream
[12:21]  * apachelogger is now phonon developer :P
[12:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lulz
[12:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you run kde svn?
[12:22] <apachelogger> I only wanted html5 :(
[12:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no
[12:23] <shadeslayer> OOo behaves so much better in windoze :/
[12:23] <shadeslayer> and in gnome too
[12:23] <apachelogger> kde svn?
[12:23] <apachelogger> I am not sure kde svn behaves in gnome 
[12:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: open office  :P
[12:24] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yeah go ahead
[12:24] <apachelogger> oh
[12:24] <shadeslayer> of course KDE svn will pwn gnome
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: alrighty
[12:24] <shadeslayer> just need to clean up my report first :P
[12:24] <ghostcube> is there any possibility to get kmenu into cairo-dock as launcher or so?
[12:25] <Riddell> that sounds gnomeish
[12:26]  * apachelogger finds that name silly :S
[12:38] <debfx> apachelogger: have you already fixed all phonon-vlc bugs? :p
[12:39] <apachelogger> yes
[12:45] <debfx> so it doesn't crash anymore and amarok doesn't randomly stop after playing a track?
[12:59] <ghostcube> Riddell: yeah cairo-dock is more gnome than kde :)
[13:14] <ghostcube> damn i cant get kdemenu classic to be called by dbus
[13:14] <ghostcube> i dont get it -.-
[13:35] <ghostcube> ok guys who can answer my question about calling kmenu by dbus? anyone here or better asking in plasma?
[13:36] <ghostcube> cause there must be a way to do this
[13:58] <txwikinger> Anybody has an idea why the /etc/acpi/lid.sh script would respawn several times a minute?
[14:25] <dantti_work> :D 5th position :P https://bugs.kde.org/weekly-bug-summary.cgi
[14:28] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: nice :P
[14:29] <shadeslayer> oh
[14:29] <shadeslayer> new release named Natty Narwhal
[14:29] <shadeslayer> lulz
[14:29] <ghostcube> o.O
[14:30] <shadeslayer> ghostcube: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/478
[14:31] <ghostcube> oha
[14:31] <ghostcube> :D
[14:31] <ghostcube> shadeslayer you may know how to call kmenu by dbus?
[14:31] <ghostcube> -.- noone can tell me how or if it  is possible
[14:31] <shadeslayer> ghostcube: does it have registered dbus interface?
[14:31] <ScottK> ryanakca: dvd links should still point to 10.04.  AFAIK we didn't respin those.
[14:31] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[14:32] <ghostcube> shadeslayer: good question
[14:32] <ScottK> Riddell: Please make a better release announcement.  What's there now is my "Oh no, need one now" version.
[14:32] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:32] <ghostcube> how is kmenu called in general ?
[14:32] <ghostcube> in 3.5 it has been dcop
[14:33] <shadeslayer> i haz no idea... you can list them dbus interfaces tho
[14:33] <shadeslayer> ghostcube: qdbus | grep foo
[14:33] <shadeslayer> i think its org.kde.klauncher
[14:34] <ghostcube> shadeslayer: hmm, ok have to check later still at work
[14:35] <shadeslayer> ghostcube: if thats the one then use QDBusInterface
[14:35] <shadeslayer> like for KGet we have : QDBusInterface kget("org.kde.kget", "/KGet", "org.kde.kget.main")
[14:35] <JontheEchidna> I don't think kickoff has a dbus interface
[14:35] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: whuts KLauncher?
[14:36] <JontheEchidna> a launcher for KDE applications
[14:36] <shadeslayer> oic
[14:36] <JontheEchidna> via dbus
[14:36] <ghostcube> hmmmm 
[14:36] <Riddelll> ScottK: download link added, I think it's all good otherwise
[14:36] <shadeslayer> ghostcube: no idea then :(
[14:36] <ghostcube> yeah, me too ;(
[14:36] <ScottK> Riddell: Cool.  Can you fix the dvd download links on the download page (apparently we own that now - a much part of last night's excitement).
[14:37] <ghostcube> how does kmenu work if i choose kemnu classic and hit the button what is then called ?
[14:37] <ghostcube> can i check this somehow?
[14:37] <shadeslayer> ghostcube: go through its source?
[14:37] <ghostcube> oi
[14:37] <ghostcube> :D
[14:38] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:38] <ghostcube> :)
[14:39] <ghostcube> oh kmenu classic is only plasmoid?
[14:42] <JontheEchidna> ghostcube: it removes the plasmoid via libplasma calls and adds a new one
[14:43] <JontheEchidna> (the new one being the menu/non-kickoff menu)
[14:43] <ghostcube> so this is miore tricky than only one line dbus :)
[14:45] <dpm> Riddell, shall we announce the Kubuntu translations day? Friday is getting closer
[14:46] <shadeslayer> dpm: we have a translations day? :P
[14:48] <Riddell> dpm: oh yes sorry, I'll do that now
[14:48] <dpm> cool, thanks :)
[14:55] <Riddell> dpm: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4313
[14:57] <dpm> Thanks Riddell, let me blog about it in a bit
[15:02] <ScottK> Riddell: Where are we on getting the updates policy approved in KDE?  Now that 10.04.1 is out of the way might be a nice time to push KDE 4.4.5 to -proposed.
[15:03] <Riddell> ScottK: I've utterly failed to get round to pushing it upstream
[15:03] <Riddell> although the guy who objected last time said he didn't remember why he objected when I asked at akademy so maybe he'll continue not to remember :)
[15:03] <ScottK> Maybe give it another push then?
[15:04] <ScottK> It seems to mostly document current practice anyway.
[15:08] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i think kmymoney is done.. will show it to debian first :D
[15:13] <ScottK> Great.
[15:53] <ryanakca> ScottK: fixing
[15:53] <ScottK> ryanakca: Thanks.
[15:54] <ScottK> ryanakca: There's a mail to reply to on kubuntu-devel when it's fixed.
[15:54] <ryanakca> OK
[16:15] <shadeslayer> debfx: you were working on the kpk fix right?
[16:25] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: pokes
[16:26] <shadeslayer> where do i modify the install path for kde nightly, so that it installs in /opt/kde
[16:26] <shadeslayer> or /opt/nightly/kde
[16:45] <debfx> shadeslayer: nope, is it broken?
[16:45] <shadeslayer> debfx: yeah, select best server doesnt work
[16:45]  * shadeslayer wonders who asked him to test bzr
[16:59] <apachelogger> debfx: the crash is apparently related to pulse not being thraedsafe
[18:33] <shadeslayer> how would one go back one commit in git?
[18:34] <shadeslayer> not actually revert the commti
[18:34] <shadeslayer> but take a step back
[18:46] <yofel> shadeslayer: well, the previous commit would be 'HEAD^', afaik checkout will uncommit the changes so you still have them as a diff, while reset will rever the commit completely
[18:46] <yofel> wait
[18:47] <yofel> reset will uncommit the changes and reset --hard will completely revert the commit
[18:47] <yofel> git checkout will revert to the previous commit and detach you from the branch you are on
[18:51] <shadeslayer> maco: btw i think for GRE, uni's also accept a Scale and your percentage
[18:52] <shadeslayer> yofel: lets see
[18:57] <shadeslayer> yofel: works :D
[18:57] <yofel> good :)
[18:58] <shadeslayer> thanks :D
[19:00] <shadeslayer> im off to sleep anyways... cya
[19:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ive mailed mark to review kmymoneypackage, waiting for his reply
[19:01] <shadeslayer> also package is uploaded here : http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=kmymoney
[19:04] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: yes?
[19:04] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: oh i had a cmakekde question, but was solved by people in #kde-in ;)
[19:05] <shadeslayer> wanted to ask where cmakekde installs files and did i need to change KDEDIRS var to install it in /opt
[19:05] <shadeslayer> now kdelibs is 85 % done
[19:23] <sheytan_> Hey guys
[19:24] <sheytan_> is the new kpk already in maveric?
[19:24] <sheytan_> if yes, can i get nighty builds from somwhere? ;)
[19:24] <shadeslayer> sheytan_: its in maverick
[19:24] <shadeslayer> but no nightly builds for lucid
[19:25] <sheytan_> shadeslayer i mean maveric nighty builds ;)
[19:25] <shadeslayer> oh....no for those too
[19:25] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:25] <sheytan_> coming soon maybe?
[19:25] <shadeslayer> maybe we will provide those with neon :D
[19:25] <shadeslayer> not entirely sure :P
[19:27] <sheytan_> sure, if you will, share it via identi.ca to let us know ;)
[19:27] <shadeslayer> erm
[19:27] <shadeslayer> who was asking for rekonq build?
[19:27] <yofel> oxymoron I think
[19:28] <yofel> and anyone could make dailies for kpk using recipes :P
[19:28] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: page now works, just requested a build for lucid, maverick seems stuck, says : No suitable builders
[19:29] <shadeslayer> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rekonq/+recipe/rekonq-daily/+build/1095 << rekonq lucid build
[19:30] <sheytan_> No one backported bluedevil and libbluedevil to lucid still?
[19:30] <shadeslayer> i dont think so
[19:31] <sheytan_> :(
[19:31] <sheytan_> It should be a part of KDE SC
[19:31] <sheytan_> in kdelibs or something ;D
[19:35] <shadeslayer> anyways.. im off to sleep :D
[19:35] <shadeslayer> cya tmmrw
[19:36] <yofel> gn
[19:51]  * Quintasan is going to burn down his ISP HQ's
[20:02] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: can you point me to pot files for muon and qapt?
[20:03] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/templates/messages/kdereview/
[20:08] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Thanks, I shall do it this week.
[20:13] <jussi> JontheEchidna: is muon in mav yet?
[20:13] <JontheEchidna> jussi: yep
[20:14] <jussi> ooh... /me goes to install
[20:49] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Thanks <3
[21:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/qtwebkit-video-vlc.ogv
[21:26] <Riddelll> apachelogger: you can now get your anime fix? :)
[22:50] <dantti_work> wow! :D 4th https://bugs.kde.org/weekly-bug-summary.cgi and kpk has now only 17 bugs opened
[23:05] <Riddelll> dantti_work: you're on a roll!