[03:24] <mtaylor> thumper: if I were here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mordred/drizzle/libdrizzle/revision/1708, how would I compare that with, say, rev 1705
[03:25] <thumper> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mordred/drizzle/libdrizzle/revision/1705?remember=1708&compare_revid=1708
[03:25] <thumper> mtaylor: click on compare with another revision
[03:25] <thumper> mtaylor: then you have to traverse to the other revision
[03:25] <mtaylor> thumper: out of curiosity - what's remeber= for?
[03:26] <thumper> (I url hacked)
[03:26] <mtaylor> thumper: ah
[03:26] <thumper> then you need to click on the compare link
[03:26] <mtaylor> you are right - that UI is hard to understand :)
[03:27] <mtaylor> thumper: thanks!
[03:27] <thumper> np
[07:25] <eugenesan> Looks like there is a problem with fetching files from PPAs
[07:26] <wgrant> eugenesan: A 404 when grabbing an orig.tar.gz from the web UI?
[07:27] <eugenesan> yeap
[07:27] <wgrant> Which PPA, and which file?
[07:27] <eugenesan> I've tried several, for Ex.:wget https://edge.launchpad.net/~northern-lights/+archive/synergy-plus/+files/synergy-plus_1.3.4.orig.tar.gz
[07:28] <eugenesan> I hope files are still there...
[07:30] <wgrant> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50527350/synergy-plus_1.3.4.orig.tar.gz works, but the link in the web UI is broken.
[07:30] <wgrant> I have some idea of why this is.
[07:30] <wgrant> Also, the file should still be available on ppa.launchpad.net
[07:31] <poolie> spm, how do we get vcs-imports branches upgraded?
[07:32] <spm> poolie: the usual method is thumper pings me to upgrade them :-) whether or not that's the *best* way, is open to discussion
[07:32] <spm> poolie: I assume you mean, upgrade to -2a as in?
[07:35] <poolie> yes
[07:36] <lifeless> there is an open bug/rt/something to do a mass upgrade
[07:39] <eugenesan> wgrant: Good to know fiiles are still there!
[07:39] <eugenesan> wgrant: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/619231 needs to be updated once issue will be solved.
[07:39] <wgrant> eugenesan: That's a duplicate of another bug, the number of which I forget.
[07:41] <eugenesan> wgrant: I can't find any open bug for LP, only LP#619231
[07:44] <poolie> jtv-eat: hi, back?
[07:52] <ChrisWoollard_> In launchpad. Is there a way to change the status of all bugs with a status of fixed commited to fix released?
[07:53] <lifeless> ChrisWoollard_: you can do that with an LP API script
[07:54] <lifeless> there is a bug open requesting a way to do it in the LP Web UI
[07:54] <ChrisWoollard_> Ok, thanks
[07:55] <ChrisWoollard_> Do you know where I can fix info to that API?
[07:55] <ChrisWoollard_> find
[07:57] <lifeless> I'm pretty sure there are folk around with a precanned script you can use
[07:57] <lifeless> there is one in the LP source tree for instance
[07:57] <lifeless> you could use that with some effort (grab it off of bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/
[07:58] <ChrisWoollard_> Ok i will have a look there
[08:31] <maxb> Uh, has edge's CSS disappeared?!
[08:32] <henninge> looks lilke it
[08:33] <ChrisWoollard_> I noticed that also.
[08:33] <henninge> I pinged the admins about it.
[08:35] <maxb> Looks like a broken build of the icing got deployed?
[08:35] <spm> maxb: pretty much exactly
[08:37] <jtv> poolie: hi, back now
[08:39] <poolie> jtv: so the problems with postgresql are because it's an ancient format; i sent mail about it
[08:39] <jtv> poolie: thanks.  They appreciate hearing from someone who really knows dcvs at this point.  :-)
[08:43] <lifeless> jtv: who is having trouble?
[08:43] <jtv> lifeless: postgres is having some trouble with its git conversion.
[08:43] <lifeless> and considering  bzr ?
[08:43] <jtv> Not directly related to us.
[08:44] <jtv> Not that I know.  They had a firm plan to go with git AIUI, but the conversion is causing them enough trouble to halt plans.
[08:44] <jtv> Luckily, I can branch off Launchpad if I want to work on postgres source!
[08:44] <jtv> Did I ever mention how great that is?  :-)
[08:51] <spm> oki. edge *should* be all back to normal and happy
[08:52] <maxb> looks good
[09:08] <apw> when you do a search it is 'series' limited, ie it searches only in development or only in lucid, is there a way to make the search 'all' series ?
[09:09] <wgrant> No.
[09:09] <wgrant> :(
[09:10] <apw> all i can say to that is wtf, as most of us wern't aware it was series locked
[09:10] <apw> and now i see why search is essentially usless ... its because it is
[09:11] <wgrant> Bug #314432
[09:11] <apw> no wonder i can never find anything
[09:11] <wgrant> I filed bug #216668 originally, which somehow ended up duped against the newer one.
[09:13] <apw> i had wondered why i always lost the older ones, now i know, as the normal modus operandi is to close in the development series before working on the older ones
[09:13] <apw> sigh
[09:49] <geser> there is also bug #121602 about it (3 years old)
[09:50] <wgrant> Ah yes, forgot about that one.
[10:12] <GaryvdM> Hi. Is there a way to rename a download file.
[10:12] <GaryvdM> I want to rename http://edge.launchpad.net/qbzr/0.19/0.19b2/+download/qbzr-0.19b2.tar.gz to qbzr-0.19~b2.tar.gz
[10:13] <GaryvdM> because uscan thinks that beta 2 is newer than 0.19 (final)
[10:16] <GaryvdM> I guess not. I'll just delete, and re-upload.
[10:17] <X3> morning, can you have a look @ https://launchpad.net/~x3lectric/+archive/team-iquik-releases/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all binutils keeps building and logs are a bit odd
[10:20] <soren> GaryvdM: uscan can be told to work with that.
[10:21] <noodles775> Hi X3 - certainly is strange. I'm guessing the build is being marked as BUILDERFAIL due to the failed package installation (hence it keeps getting retried).
[10:21] <GaryvdM> soren: Oh cool
[10:21] <GaryvdM> soren
[10:21] <soren> GaryvdM: Look at uversionmangle in the uscan(1) man page.
[10:21] <GaryvdM> soren: ah thanks.
[10:21] <noodles775> X3: and the package installation is failing because it's wanting to remove an essential package? bigjools or wgrant might know more?
[10:22] <wgrant> Let's see.
[10:22] <soren> GaryvdM: Something like opts=uversionmangle=s/b/~$1/
[10:23] <soren> GaryvdM: so if there's a b in the version string, it pretends there's a ~ before the b when doing the comparison.
[10:23] <wgrant> X3, noodles775: So, the builder sees 'E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes' and tells LP that it needs to try it again. I'm not sure why it doesn't fail the build -- I guess that reason is lost in history.
[10:23] <X3> noodles775: well idk whats going on
[10:24] <X3> wgrant: can you fix it or someone else
[10:24] <wgrant> X3: It might be because you're build-depending on xz-utils.
[10:24] <GaryvdM> soren: Thanks - that works.
[10:25] <wgrant> X3: It's a bug in your package that it's failing.
[10:25] <wgrant> And a Launchpad bug that it keeps retrying it.
[10:29] <X3> :S
[10:29] <X3> er well thats a backport
[10:30] <X3> if thers a bug why is the original package was built
[10:31] <X3> idk if I can build gcc 4.5.1 with a lower versionof binutils
[10:33] <X3> ill delete those and retry
[10:35] <wgrant> X3: xz-utils probably conflicts with lzma in karmic.
[10:35] <wgrant> It doesn't in Lucid.
[10:35] <X3> do you recon gcc 4.5.1 will work ok with binutils from karmic?
[10:36] <wgrant> I don't know.
[10:38] <X3> i cant find that dammed gcc page which has the requirements
[10:39] <X3> found it
[10:40] <X3> http://gcc.gnu.org/install/prerequisites.html
[10:40] <X3> actually its not a absolute requirement
[10:40] <X3> ill retry
[10:40] <X3> thx guys
[10:41] <aquarius> ssh: connect to host bazaar.launchpad.net port 22: Connection refused -- is this known?
[10:43] <GaryvdM> aquarius: I'm getting the same error, which indicates to me a launchpad problem
[10:44] <GaryvdM> aquarius: Seems to be working now
[10:44] <mthaddon> sorry folks, was rolling out a code fix and took a little longer than usual to get the new code out
[10:45] <GaryvdM> mthaddon: Np
[12:47] <tumbleweed> it looks like *.edge.launchpad.net is providing an incorrect certificate chain: http://paste.ubuntu.com/479887/ (wget and curl can't grab things from it)
[13:08] <maxb> tumbleweed: Could you file a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug
[13:08] <maxb> Unless there's a bored losa (hah!) around?
[13:09] <tumbleweed> maxb: will do
[13:10] <X3> how can I have several versions of something for same distro on a ppa
[13:11] <tumbleweed> filed as bug 619796
[13:12] <maxb> X3: Like (for example) mysql-5.0, mysql-5.1, mysql-5.5 ?
[13:12] <X3> ya
[13:13] <maxb> To do this, enough of the version to distinguish the various options must be placed in the *name* of the source and binary package
[13:13] <X3> er?
[13:14] <X3> can you elaborate
[13:14] <maxb> Modify your debian/control, debian/changelog, etc. to include the version number in the package *name*
[13:15] <X3> oh ok
[13:16] <maxb> losa ping: please can you assign bug 619796 to yourselves, and enter an RT if required?
[13:16] <X3> thx maxb ill try that
[13:42] <oubiwann> leonardr: hey man... we've got a problem with a git import in Launchpad
[13:42] <oubiwann> wondering if you can help us out
[13:42] <oubiwann> (for multi-touch stuff)
[13:43] <leonardr> oubiwann, i think you're asking me because i was the help contact the last time you had a question, not because i have any special expertise in this field?
[13:43] <leonardr> go ahead
[13:43] <oubiwann> that's correct :-)
[13:43] <oubiwann> leonardr: the branch is here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mtdev-team/mtdev/trunk
[13:44] <oubiwann> we've done this twice now... it imports and updates fine for a couple weeks, and then it starts err'ing out
[13:44] <oubiwann> the logs show a potential problem with redirect, but the whiteboard shows a perm denied error
[13:45] <leonardr> oubiwann, http://bitmath.org/git/mtdev.git/ gives me "Forbidden" when i access it in my web browser
[13:47] <leonardr> so either that's the problem, or the person who investigated the redirect problem typed that into their web browser and thought that was the problem
[13:48] <oubiwann> leonardr: right, that's happens only when web browsers try to access the repo
[13:49] <oubiwann> leonardr: performing the following works: git clone http://bitmath.org/git/mtdev.git
[13:50] <leonardr> oubiwann, my guess is that '/objects' is a special git url, or that mtdev.git links to '/objects', and launchpad can't handle a redirect from /objects to /objects/
[13:50] <leonardr> you'll need to talk to rockstar or someone else who understands this system
[13:50] <oubiwann> leonardr: cool, thanks
[13:50] <oubiwann> rockstar won't be up for a couple hours... I'll keep my eyes open for him
[13:56] <maxb> oubiwann: Attempting to clone that URL with plain ordinary git silently fails to fetch anything. If git itself can't access it, it's not a Launchpad problem.
[13:56] <maxb> oubiwann: You should take this up with the owner of the server
[13:56] <oubiwann> maxb: I just cloned it here on my home machine...
[13:56] <oubiwann> maxb: and it worked for a couple weeks in LP
[13:56] <wgrant> bzr-git grabs it fine now.
[13:57] <jelmer> oubiwann: This is a known bug in the version of bzr-git in use by Launchpad.
[13:57] <maxb> oh! I thought it failed, but that was just because git said nothing more than initializing an empty repository
[13:57] <oubiwann> ah, I see
[13:58] <jelmer> oubiwann: I have a branch approved for review (lp:~jelmer/launchpad/update-bzr-git) that updates it to a newer version. We're hoping to cherrypick it onto production.
[13:58] <oubiwann> jelmer: awesome
[13:58] <oubiwann> jelmer, maxb: what's the best way to restart the import? delete it and re-add it?
[13:59] <jelmer> oubiwann: There's an "Import now" button that should restart it.
[13:59]  * oubiwann checks
[14:00] <maxb> No, it's been manually suspended. It requires ~vcs-imports privileges to un-suspend
[14:00] <jelmer> ah, ok
[14:00] <oubiwann> ah, that explains why I wasn't able to find any button...
[14:00] <oubiwann> :-)
[14:00] <oubiwann> maxb: who should I talk to with those perms?
[14:01] <maxb> many of us here. including me
[14:01] <jelmer> oubiwann: max and I both are in ~vcs-imports
[14:01] <oubiwann> oh, sweet :-)
[14:01] <oubiwann> I'm updating the whiteboard
[14:01] <jelmer> oubiwann, However, resuming it won't do any good until the new bzr-git has been cherrypicked onto production.
[14:01] <oubiwann> jelmer: oh, that's too bad :-( I was hoping it would work again for a couple weeks before failing
[14:02] <oubiwann> (like it did on the last two imports)
[14:02] <jelmer> oubiwann: It broke because a regressed bzr-git landed on Launchpad.
[14:02] <oubiwann> ah
[14:03] <oubiwann> all is clear
[14:03] <oubiwann> thanks :-)
[14:04] <jelmer> oubiwann: FWIW you should be able to pull directly from git using lp:bzr-git for the moment until the vcs import returns.
[14:05] <oubiwann> jelmer: execllent -- thanks for your help!
[14:13] <maxb> Launchpad permits debian source format 3.0 in Lucid and Maverick only, right?
[14:14] <shadeslayer> maxb: afaik no
[14:14] <shadeslayer> wel
[14:14] <shadeslayer> maxb: is it 3.0 native?
[14:14] <maxb> 3.0 (quilt)
[14:14] <shadeslayer> oh wait more... is this a recipe ?
[14:14] <maxb> No, a standard PPA upload
[14:15] <shadeslayer> ah..then 3.0 (*)
[14:15] <maxb> I know there is a transition from not-allowed to allowed, I'm just forgetting whether it starts to be allowed in karmic or lucid
[14:15] <shadeslayer> and it depends more on debhelper
[14:15] <wgrant> Karmic.
[14:15] <wgrant> We initially enabled it for Lucid only.
[14:15] <wgrant> But then later enabled it for Karmic, IIRC.
[14:16] <wgrant> Karmic's dpkg doesn't support it perfectly, but most things should work.
[14:17] <MTecknology> I think recipes hate me.. I can make them work locally but that's it
[15:46] <MTecknology> Can I not use quilt in a recipe?  http://dpaste.com/230642/
[15:48] <maxb> MTecknology: hi. several points
[15:48] <maxb> 1) Never build packages as root, ever
[15:49] <MTecknology> maxb: I just created a chroot for it
[15:49] <MTecknology> I'll create an account for it
[15:49] <maxb> 2) I doubt it matters, but seeing { } characters in a directory name does make me a little nervous
[15:49] <maxb> 3) I would imagine the decision to use 3.0 (quilt) comes from the debian/source/format file in the packaging
[15:50] <MTecknology> maxb: the { } came from the bzr builder
[15:51] <maxb> ok
[15:55] <MTecknology> maxb: This might be a better paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/479958/
[15:56] <maxb> MTecknology: Examine the debian/source/format file within the packaging branch
[15:57] <MTecknology> maxb: 3.0 (quilt)
[15:57] <maxb> AFAIK bzr-builder only builds packages in native mode (1.0 or 3.0)
[15:58] <MTecknology> You lost me at native
[15:58] <maxb> The opposite of quilt
[15:58] <MTecknology> so recipes aren't going to work for me, are they?
[16:00] <maxb> Well, you *could* decide to build your packages in native style
[16:00] <maxb> echo "3.0 (native)" > debian/source/format, commit it, and try your recipe again
[16:01] <MTecknology> heh.. nice
[16:01] <MTecknology> maxb: will the patches still be applied?
[16:01] <MTecknology> the s/quilt/native/ is above my head by a long distance
[16:12] <MTecknology> And recipes don't work with maverick right now?
[16:22] <maxb> oh gosh, has no one fixed that yet?
[16:22] <maxb> and no, patches would not be applied
[16:22] <maxb> it sounds to me that you need to find or open a bug on bzr-builder about supporting quilt-style packagin
[16:59] <MTecknology> maxb: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53936837/buildlog.txt.gz
[16:59] <MTecknology> maxb: I made the change you mentioned and it worked locally but launchpad puked on it
[17:16] <maxb> MTecknology: I am unable to explain your error. it is weird.
[17:16]  * maxb wonders if james_w is present
[17:16] <MTecknology> james_w: You up for being annoyed by me again?
[17:16] <MTecknology> maxb: thanks
[17:33] <chilicuil> good morning, after copying some pkgs from an existent ppa to another, how can I keep them in sync?
[17:34] <bigjools> chilicuil: it's best not to copy them, instead add a dependency to the other PPA
[17:37] <maxb> Well, yes and no, it depends on the reason for copying them
[17:37] <chilicuil> bigjools: ok, so should I make an 'empty' package who depends on another ppa?, but then I've to add that ppa, right?, the problem is that I want to get the last version of thunderbird but if I add the mozilla ppa I'll get updates for a couple of packages too
[17:38] <bigjools> if you don't want to get all the other packages then you need to manually copy to keep "in sync"
[17:41] <chilicuil> bigjools: I've not see such a nice option when copying the pkgs, how can I do it?
[17:47] <geser> would apt pinning work?
[18:44] <james_w> MTecknology: oddness
[18:45] <james_w> MTecknology: the newer bzr-builder has a more helpful error message in that situation, but that hasn't been deployed yet
[18:46] <james_w> plus, odd interleaving of output from multiple processes when building recipes, which doesn't make it that easy to read
[20:19] <CrazyLemon> hey guys.. any idea how can i unblock REFERER headers in FF 3.6.8 ? I keep getting No REFERER Header in launchpad
[20:22] <micahg> CrazyLemon: probably an extension blocking it
[20:22] <CrazyLemon> like adblock plus?
[20:24] <micahg> CrazyLemon: idk
[20:25] <CrazyLemon> tnx anyway
[20:25] <micahg> CrazyLemon: someone else might know
[20:25] <micahg> CrazyLemon: I just know that I use FF3.6.8 w/no issue, so it's probably an extension
[20:27] <CrazyLemon> well i always use the same extensions since 3.x so i really have no idea
[20:27] <CrazyLemon> i disabled ABP on launchpad still no luck..argh
[20:28] <CrazyLemon> f it..i'm just gonna go with chrome...take care
[20:52] <nhandler> Out of curiosity, when do the daily builds from bzr branches happen in relation to the pushing of new .po files from rosetta to bzr branches?
[20:53] <henninge> nhandler: hm, pushing po files is not really related to template builds, is it?
[20:56] <nhandler> henninge: template builds? I'm still getting my head around a lot of this translation stuff. I know of template imports, but not builds
[21:00] <henninge> nhandler: you were talking of daily builds, so I thought you were referring to that.
[21:01] <henninge> nhandler: but po file imports happen whenever the file is uploade - if all is correct.
[21:01] <henninge> nhandler: is this the first upload for you?
[21:01] <nhandler> henninge: Yes, but when are they exported back to the bzr branch if I have syncing setup (project is classbot)
[21:02] <henninge> oh, exports to branch.
[21:02] <nhandler> Yeah
[21:02] <henninge> nhandler: they happen sometime after midnight UTC AFAIK
[21:02] <nhandler> Would the .po files get exported to the branch before or after a recipe would build a daily build of the package
[21:03] <henninge> nhandler: it is not related to recipe builds.
[21:04] <nhandler> henninge: I know. I just want to know if the daily builds would actually include that day's updated .po files or if I would need to wait an additional day
[21:04] <henninge> nhandler: I don't know when the daily builds happen, sorry.
[21:04] <nhandler> henninge: Alright, thanks anyway.
[22:51] <lifeless> is there a problem with the librarian ?
[22:51] <lifeless> just had a feng shui report from andreas
[22:52] <ahasenack> fwiw, worked the 2nd time
[22:53] <lifeless> still, its not good
[22:53] <lifeless> we should give you an error code
[22:53] <lifeless> Filing a bug on that now
[22:53] <ahasenack> thanks
[22:54] <ahasenack> lifeless: hmm, well
[22:54] <ahasenack> lifeless: it uploaded
[22:54] <ahasenack> lifeless: but I can't see it
[22:55] <ahasenack> let me try to get you a link
[22:55]  * ahasenack watches bits crawl across the Atlantic
[22:56] <ahasenack> lifeless: try to see the attachment of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/landscape/+bug/620127
[22:56] <lifeless> ahasenack: looks fine to me
[22:56] <lifeless> landscape, big red circle
[22:56] <lifeless> made with gimp I reckon
[22:57] <ahasenack> I got a file not found error, but not a 404, something specific to chrome I suppose
[22:57] <ahasenack> lifeless: no :)
[22:57] <lifeless> not a 404 ?
[22:57] <lifeless> what was it ?
[22:57]  * ahasenack tries firefox
[22:57] <lifeless> you should definitely see a 404 in such cases
[22:57] <lifeless> bug filed
[22:57] <ahasenack> lifeless: shutter, screenshot tool, it has editing capabilities
[22:58] <ahasenack> this is freaking weird
[22:58] <lifeless> I mean
[22:58] <ahasenack> Firefox can't find the file at https://bugs.launchpad.net/landscape/+bug/620127/+attachment/1498855/+files/Selection_001.png.
[22:58] <lifeless> what was the error description in chrome
[22:58]  * ahasenack inspects the url
[22:58] <ahasenack> it's almost as if it was trying a local file on my filesystem
[22:59] <cody-somerville> You probably got 401 and Chrome showed you its own error page.
[22:59] <ahasenack> but I just filed the bug, I'm logged in
[23:00]  * ahasenack double checks
[23:00] <ahasenack> I'm logged in alright
[23:02] <cody-somerville> I just tried and I don't have access and Chromium didn't do that so I guess it only does it for 404 errors.
[23:02] <ahasenack> firefox says "Problem loading page", and in the contents "File not found
[23:02] <ahasenack>       
[23:02] <ahasenack>       
[23:02] <ahasenack>       
[23:02] <ahasenack>       
[23:02] <ahasenack>       
[23:02] <ahasenack>         
[23:02] <ahasenack>         
[23:02] <ahasenack>           
[23:02] <ahasenack> Firefox can't find the file at https://bugs.launchpad.net/landscape/+bug/620127/+attachment/1498855/+files/Selection_001.png."
[23:02] <ahasenack> argh, sorry
[23:02] <ahasenack> didn't know the whitespace would be treated as such
[23:03] <ahasenack> chrome says "This webpage is not found." and "No webpage was found for the web address:" with the url of the attachment
[23:03] <ahasenack> and in "more information" it says "Error 6 (net::ERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND): The file or directory could not be found."
[23:05] <lifeless> check the headers ?
[23:06] <ahasenack> you mean sniffing? It's https
[23:07] <ahasenack> now I got it
[23:08] <ahasenack> as a download, though
[23:08] <ahasenack> it's not being displayed inside the browser. The mimetype is correct (I checked the attachment "edit" page)
[23:08] <ahasenack> anyway
[23:08] <ahasenack> need to go, see you later
[23:10] <wgrant> ahasenack: That's correct behaviour for private attachments, unfortunately.
[23:12] <lifeless> we will fix it
[23:12] <lifeless> later