[02:06] <NCommander> prpplague: I won't try it, its extremely fragile, and doesn't work as well as you'd expect it to
[02:08] <prpplague> NCommander: the distcc?
[02:09] <NCommander> prpplague: yes
[02:09] <prpplague> NCommander: well i'm just wondering how the build farms of HP/compaq were so successful
[02:11] <NCommander> prpplague: they threw a lot of hardware a tthe problem with QEMU
[02:12] <prpplague> NCommander: so it doesn't look as though it is a simply implementation
[02:12] <NCommander> prpplague: I recommend you ask the OBS/HP guys about it. I only used icecc for building OOo seperate of the Ubuntu infrastructure
[02:13] <prpplague> NCommander: yea, it's a back burner project, i'll get to it soon
[03:30] <DanaG> "PVRShell: Unable to create surface"
[03:31] <DanaG> er, will go in #beagle.
[09:12] <GrueMaster_> Morning all.
[10:08] <DanaG> Say, I can't start lxsession.
[10:08] <DanaG> Here's a strace of it: http://pastebin.com/4QntHZ2n
[10:11] <DanaG> Or rather, it starts and then immediately exits.
[10:15] <DanaG> Looks like /etc/xdg/LXDE/desktop.conf is MIA.
[10:15] <DanaG> !find /etc/xdg/LXDE/desktop.conf
[10:15] <ubot2> DanaG: Please use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to search for files
[10:15] <DanaG> Oh, really?
[10:15] <DanaG>            Error  more than one suite specified for show_static (dapper dapper-updates  dapper-backports hardy hardy-updates hardy-backports intrepid  intrepid-updates intrepid-backports jaunty jaunty-updates  jaunty-backports karmic karmic-updates karmic-backports lucid)
[10:15] <DanaG> That's bull.
[10:16] <DanaG> Nice job.
[10:23] <DanaG> ah, looks like the file is in lxde-common, which lxsession does NOT depend on.
[10:26] <DanaG> That's a bug.
[10:36] <lag> ogra: GrueMaster: ping
[10:37] <GrueMaster> Yes?
[10:42] <lag> I've been trying to recreate the scheduling whilst atomic bug
[10:43] <lag> I have used all RAM and swap
[10:43] <lag> And nothing ...
[10:46] <lag> GrueMaster: -^
[10:46] <GrueMaster> Hmm.  I'm seeing it here now, but w/o USB, I'm not sure how you can reproduce it.
[10:50] <GrueMaster> If you want to bring your own monitor & power supply, you are welcome to join us here.
[10:52] <lag> GrueMaster: You're 2hrs away and I have no transport :)
[10:52] <GrueMaster> oops.
[10:52] <lag> GrueMaster: As I can't recreate, I'm going to have to drop this and pick it up when my board it replaced
[10:52] <lag> amitk: ping
[11:26] <amitk> lag: pong
[11:27] <lag> Hi Amit
[11:27] <amitk> lag: what's up?
[11:28] <lag> Do the Linaro team have XM boards which actually work?
[11:28] <lag> Or do they suffer from the same memory issues that ours do?
[11:29] <amitk> lag: I think we might have a few newer boards
[11:29] <amitk> lag: mine went back to the arm team
[11:30] <lag> amitk: I'm caught between a rock and hard place
[11:30] <lag> amitk: I have an XM with memory issues, so I can't do any more with that
[11:30] <lag> amitk: And an XM which has broken USB
[11:31] <amitk> ouch!
[11:32] <lag> amitk: Yeah :(
[11:32] <lag> amitk: I'm guessing you can be of no help?
[11:32] <amitk> lag: with HW? or testing?
[11:32] <lag> HW
[11:32] <amitk> lag: we're facing severe shortage ourselves
[11:33] <lag> We don't officially support XM, so I'm guessing they'd have to come from you guys
[11:35] <amitk> lag: doesn't the board work with mem=256M cmdline?
[11:35] <lag> I can't remember what happened when I tried that actually
[11:36] <lag> I don't think so
[11:37] <amitk> lag: that sounds strange, AFAIK the 'problem' was only in one bank. Have you asked TI?
[11:38] <lag> ogra: Ping
[11:38] <ogra> the XM with the fixed ram arent available to anyone yet
[11:38] <lag> ogra: How does the daily build look for the XM currently?
[11:38] <ogra> they all have the broken chips, the prob doesnt manifest on all boards though
[11:39] <ogra> lag, havent tested for a while due to the mmc issues
[11:39] <lag> The ro issues?
[11:39] <ogra> yep
[11:39]  * ogra pulls todays image to check it
[11:40] <lag> The ro issues will still reside
[11:40] <ogra> ah, k
[11:40] <ogra> then i cant test
[11:40] <lag> The _fix_ has been rejected a few times from linux-omap
[11:41] <lag> rcn-ee: Needs to send it up one more time
[11:41] <lag> I believe it will be accepted on the next attempt
[11:44] <lag> 4th time lucky
[11:44] <lag> Well thanks anyway amitk
[11:48] <amitk> lag: sorry I couldn't be of any more help
[11:48] <GrueMaster> ogra:  I am still testing package upgrades.  apparmor and all of Xorg updates  passed.  Now testing libgtk.
[11:49] <ogra> GrueMaster, great, thanks
[11:49] <ogra> do you see the same odd behavior with dbus if you start it manually ?
[11:49] <ogra> (board locking up hard)
[11:49] <GrueMaster> Didn't try.  Just updating/rebooting.
[11:49] <GrueMaster> But I can check.
[11:49] <ogra> did you check that it runs ?
[11:49] <ogra> after a reboot i mean
[11:50] <GrueMaster> Yes, it runs.
[11:50] <lag> amitk: No problem
[11:50] <lag> amitk: How was Tony?
[11:50] <lag> :)
[11:50] <amitk> Tony is fine. The sushi even better :)
[11:50] <GrueMaster> After reboot, I log in and look for crashes.  The full upgrade won't even start X, so I'm already making major headway there.
[11:51] <ogra> GrueMaster, right, check if the system dbus is in your processlist
[11:52] <GrueMaster> It "should" be.  I'd see a crash report otherwise.
[11:52] <GrueMaster> Yes, it is currently running.
[11:56] <ogra> k
[11:56] <ogra> i wonder why it doesnt start on the dailies
[12:00] <ogra> hmm, the "Natty Narwhal"
[12:18] <rcn-ee> lag, 5th time the charm. ;)
[12:19] <lag> rcn-ee: Good luck Robert :)
[12:31] <GrueMaster> 40 packages tested, 367 to go.  Wheee.
[13:59] <JamesWstubbs> Hello, has anyone here been able to get E17 and Illume working with Karmic armel ?
[14:02] <JamesWstubbs> Hello lilstevie
[14:25] <naveenpenda> freind12
[14:31] <lag> rcn-ee: No sign of you yet?
[14:45] <lag> prpplague: Morning Dave
[15:08] <prpplague> lag: morning
[15:08] <prpplague> lag: i'm headed into the office, be there in about an hour
[15:09] <prpplague> lag: we can chat about panda audio then
[15:09] <prpplague> later!
[15:46] <rsavoye> does anyone know if Maverick will run on the Genesi Efika MX Smarttop ?
[15:47] <rsavoye> they're giving them away free to developers. :-) and I do see them listed on the Linaro wiki
[15:53] <rsalveti> rsalveti: giving for free? where is the link? :-)
[15:54] <rsalveti> argh ahha
[15:54] <rsalveti> rsavoye: ^
[15:55] <rsavoye> http://projects.powerdeveloper.org/program/imx515/
[15:55] <rsavoye> you have to propose a project. they said they sent a few dozen to Debconf too
[15:57] <rsalveti> cool, there are quite a few projects already
[15:58] <rsavoye> yep, he accepted my proposal in about 5 minutes last night. :-)
[15:59] <rsavoye> it comes with Karmic, but I'd prefer to upgrade it to maverick if I can...
[16:00] <rsavoye> 800Mhz sounds nice for big builds too
[16:05] <rsalveti> yeah, it'd probably run fine
[16:05] <rsalveti> will try to propose something there
[16:07] <yacc> Wondering, is the netbook ARM edition available for download?
[16:07] <yacc> I seem to find only "youtube videos" :(
[16:08] <rsalveti> yacc: for what distro version?
[16:08] <rsalveti> and which board are you using?
[16:10] <rsavoye> rsalveti: mine should be here Friday they say, so I'll try Maverick and let you know
[16:10] <yacc> I seem to find only "youtube videos" :(
[16:10] <yacc> Well, the videos seem to talk about a Ubuntu 10.07 Smartbook edition, ...
[16:10] <rsalveti> rsavoye: cool, you can check with the guy that's doing emdebian/ubuntu work
[16:11] <rsalveti> he can tell you the latest status, probably
[16:11] <rsavoye> which is who ?
[16:11] <yacc> rsalveti, at the moment none, but I'm considering a Toshiba AC100
[16:12] <rsalveti> rsavoye: http://projects.powerdeveloper.org/project/imx515/777
[16:13] <rsavoye> cross toolchains are easy, I'm more worried about device driver support
[16:13] <rsalveti> and that would be zumbi
[16:20] <yacc> rsalveti, any idea?
[16:21] <rsalveti> yacc: you could probably run lucid and maverick on it
[16:25] <yacc> rsalveti, yeah, but I seem to be unable to find any docu.
[16:26] <rsalveti> yacc: true, you'll need to be able to get at least the boot loader and the kernel for it
[16:26] <rsalveti> then you can just create an ubuntu rootfs
[16:26] <rsalveti> yacc: is it released already?
[16:26] <yacc> Yeah, where do I get such beasts?
[16:27] <yacc> I have no idea, I come here to ask, the hardware seems to be available or at least it's listed with a number of sites, ...
[16:27] <rsalveti> the kernel is open source, so they'll probably deliver a link or a tarball with the sources
[16:27] <rsalveti> not for the bootloader I have no idea
[16:27] <yacc> http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2010/06/ubuntu-107-smartbook-edition-demoed.html
[16:28] <yacc> Ok, one site lists delivery on 25.8.2010 and the other one in about 5 weeks ;)
[16:28] <yacc> So it's not released yet, but somebody seems to have gotten Ubuntu to run on it, ...
[16:30] <yacc> http://geizhals.at/eu/a559944.html
[16:30] <yacc> It looks rather nice for 870g, UMTS included.
[16:31] <rsalveti> yacc: the first video is running on a freescale netbook
[16:31] <yacc> Oh, that's funny.
[16:31] <rsalveti> toshiba one is based on nvidia's tegra
[16:33] <yacc> Ok, so no non-Android option, ...
[16:34] <yacc> And I cannot believe that Android is useable without a touchscreen, ...
[16:34] <GrueMaster> Why wouldn't it be?
[16:34] <GrueMaster> Touch screen is mapped similar to a mouse.
[16:35] <ogra> heh, thats jerone in the video
[16:35] <yacc> Well, yes, but the interaction is quite different.
[16:36] <yacc> I had a tablet PC, and trust me, replacing the touchpad/mouse with the stick was not really practical, usually.
[16:36] <rsalveti> yeah
[16:36] <rsalveti> hm, lunch time :-)